| bdrung | tumbleweed: current state of script foo: http://paste.debian.net/81773/ | 00:05 |
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| bdrung | tumbleweed: it downloads the patch and the corresponding ubuntu source package | 00:08 |
| techm3 | . | 00:45 |
| techm3 | Hi | 01:08 |
| micahg | bdrung: what do you think of my requestmerge script idea? | 01:28 |
| bdrung | micahg: it could be useful for people who needs sponsoring. | 01:29 |
| bdrung | :) | 01:29 |
| bdrung | micahg: you are welcome to write this tool. what should the tool do differently to requestsync? | 01:29 |
| micahg | bdrung: do you think it's worth factoring out common parts of requestsync/requestmerge to requestfoo? | 01:30 |
| bdrung | micahg: dunno. you have to check how much overlap you will have. | 01:30 |
| micahg | bdrung: basically the same thing except not subscribe spronsors and use the word merge in place of sync | 01:30 |
| bdrung | micahg: should it be for just requesting a merge without providing a debdiff? | 01:31 |
| micahg | bdrung: yes, I think so, so others can usefully request a merge of their favorite app | 01:31 |
| bdrung | micahg: hm. do you think that it will make a difference? | 01:32 |
| bdrung | someone has to do the work and prepare a debdiff | 01:32 |
| micahg | bdrung: I think makes it easy to title a merge properly and add the changelog | 01:32 |
| micahg | bdrung: true, but people might not realize that merge is necessary/wanted | 01:33 |
| * micahg guesses that's not what u-d-t is really for though | 01:33 | |
| bdrung | micahg: really? | 01:33 |
| micahg | bdrung: idk, maybe no one would see it then | 01:34 |
| bdrung | u-d-t is mostly used by ubuntu devs | 01:34 |
| micahg | I guess there's no point for random people, but I guess it would be good just for devs with an optional attachment | 01:34 |
| bdrung | i doubt that a normal user will install u-d-t | 01:34 |
| micahg | to create the bug easily and mark in progress at least | 01:35 |
| bdrung | micahg: if requestmerge is used for requesting the merge and attaching a debdiff, then i support your idea. | 01:36 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, that works, I would make the debdiff optional or add an option to add one to a merge bug in case the merge will be done over a couple days so the bug can be open as a placeholder | 01:37 |
| bdrung | micahg: requestsync foo -> do you have a debdiff -> either attach it and subscribe u-s or ask if the requester works on the debdiff -> assigning the request | 01:37 |
| micahg | basically | 01:38 |
| bdrung | micahg: either the patch is given as cli parameter or you ask for it | 01:38 |
| micahg | bdrung: right, but it should still be optional so the bug can get filed at least so people know it's in progress | 01:39 |
| bdrung | micahg: yes | 01:39 |
| bdrung | micahg: i need a fake sync | 01:43 |
| grold | bdrung, what is fake sync? (did not find any desc in wiki) | 01:46 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, do you mean a use case? | 01:48 |
| bdrung | grold: if the md5sums of the source tarballs for one upstream version differ between debian and ubuntu. then we can't sync the package. we have to use our own source tarballs then. | 01:48 |
| bdrung | micahg: i am working on syncpackage and will test the fakesync part | 01:49 |
| grold | why upstream version may be differ? | 01:50 |
| micahg | grold: if it's generated vs provided by upstream | 01:52 |
| micahg | upstream as in upstream from Debian | 01:52 |
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| bdrung | grold: md5sums of the tarballs. this can happen when you repack the source tarball | 01:53 |
| bdrung | micahg: upstream as in source tarball :) | 01:53 |
| micahg | bdrung: yes | 01:53 |
| micahg | was more of an issue before source format 3 | 01:54 |
| grold | why I need to repack it? why not just download the original tarball? (if it's sync?) | 01:55 |
| grold | this case https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby1.9.1/+bug/611251 (i386 package builds in debian, but failed in ubuntu) is a fake sync? | 01:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 611251 in ruby1.9.1 (Ubuntu) "ruby 1.9.1.429-1 don't builds on i386" [Undecided,New] | 01:58 |
| micahg | grold: no, just different versions of build-depends | 01:59 |
| bdrung | grold: no, that just a build failure | 01:59 |
| grold | still don't understand what is the use case for changing a source tarball...O:-) | 02:07 |
| micahg | grold: http://people.debian.org/~daniel/documents/packaging.html#source-tarball | 02:09 |
| RAOF | grold: There are a number of times when it's necessary. Most commonly: when part of the tarball isn't {redistributable,free-software}. | 02:09 |
| bdrung | grold: in some cases they are repacked by accident leading to a tarball with the same content but a different md5sum | 02:11 |
| grold | RAOF, but debian more strict in issues of free-software, if tarball suitable in debian - it shall be serve for ubuntu, no? | 02:13 |
| RAOF | grold: Yes, but not if we repack it independently (ie: we package it first, and then Debian packages it again) | 02:13 |
| grold | bdrung, micahg, RAOF - thanks to all, now I have some kind of clarity :) will do more investigation... | 02:19 |
| ScottL | is there a good place to see the packages that FTBFS? something like person.ubuntu.com/ftbfs ? | 02:27 |
| micahg | ScottL: see /topic :) | 02:28 |
| micahg | ScottL: and if you're referring to the ones you uploaded, see launchpad.net/~you/+related-software | 02:28 |
| ScottL | micahg, neither are the one that persia showed me, this one was on a ubuntu server i believe :( but thanks! | 02:36 |
| ScottL | i get an automated email from colin watson and i wanted to check up on why they aren't building | 02:37 |
| micahg | ScottL: idk | 02:54 |
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| ripps | Hmm... the new compiz in Maverick is looking for libdbus-qt-1-dev, but it doesn't exist in the repos. A libdbusmenu-qt-dev does, though. Is it a missing package, or simply a misnamped dependency? | 06:04 |
| RAOF | libdbusmenu-qt-dev is quite a different beast. | 06:06 |
| ripps | RAOF: so it's a missing package then | 06:06 |
| RAOF | ripps: Looks like it's after libqt4-dev; it seems that the qt4 development packages aren't split out. | 06:10 |
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| micahg | can we add a binary to a release if a newer version from the next release needs to be SRUd or should I release everything in the same package? | 06:23 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:45 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: good morning | 07:52 |
| dholbach | hi bilalakhtar | 07:53 |
| bilalakhtar | hi | 07:53 |
| huats | morning | 09:35 |
| bdrung | dholbach: why did you assing me to bug #599725? | 09:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 599725 in ubuntu-sponsoring "Ubuntu Sponsoring Overview has no statistics" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599725 | 09:58 |
| dholbach | bdrung: because you fixed the bug | 09:58 |
| dholbach | it was … like … giving you credit for your fix | 09:58 |
| bdrung | dholbach: i use it for marking thing that i work on | 09:59 |
| dholbach | well it's closed now so it won't turn up, no? :) | 09:59 |
| dholbach | unassign yourself if you want | 09:59 |
| dholbach | I just thought it was fair to credit you for your fix | 10:00 |
| dholbach | thanks again for that | 10:00 |
| bdrung | dholbach: i am subscribed to the bug and i am in the bzr log | 10:03 |
| dholbach | bdrung: as I said: if you don't want this, feel free to change it back | 10:04 |
| dholbach | it's standard practice in other projects I'm part of and I don't think I had this discussion ever before :) | 10:05 |
| dholbach | for example do I like it in overviews like https://launchpad.net/loco-directory/+milestone/0.2.14 https://launchpad.net/loco-directory/+milestone/0.2.13 etc | 10:07 |
| bdrung | ok | 10:08 |
| bdrung | dholbach: how long does one generation run takes on your machine? | 10:09 |
| chilicuil | hi, sry to bother u, but #ubuntu-bugs looks empty (I must be in a wrong UTC), anyway, I'm trying to run $requestsync and I'm getting the following output: http://pastebin.com/6V49HqFC I've tried with both version, the one who's in the repositories and the one who can be downloaded with bzr | 10:12 |
| tumbleweed | chilicuil: That error means it can't find python-debian, it is installed, right? | 10:14 |
| chilicuil | yes it's installed tumbleweed | 10:15 |
| chilicuil | actually it was marked as being installed manually | 10:15 |
| chilicuil | $ dpkg -l |grep python-deb --> "ii python-debian 0.1.14ubuntu2" | 10:17 |
| bdrung | chilicuil: for the bzr version, you have to use a newer python-debian version | 10:24 |
| chilicuil | tumbleweed, bdrung : I've just purge it and reinstall it, and now it works O.o! | 10:24 |
| chilicuil | another non related question, after featurefreeze I can still play with the packages that ftbfs, right? | 10:26 |
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| bdrung | chilicuil: yes | 10:30 |
| chilicuil | ok, great, thx for your time | 10:30 |
| dholbach | bdrung: 11m on the DC machine, and ages locally, somebody in the office is doing a HUGE upload | 10:37 |
| bdrung | dholbach: isn't there a way to speed it up a little bit? | 10:38 |
| dholbach | bdrung: I'm sure there, but I don't have time for it right now | 10:38 |
| dholbach | bdrung: I'm in a bunch of other important projects right now and try to focus on them | 10:39 |
| dholbach | bdrung: one obvious fix would be: get stuff OFF the list quicker | 10:39 |
| bdrung | dholbach: and how can we do that without regeneration? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | ? | 10:40 |
| bdrung | dholbach: or do you talk about actual sponsoring? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | I meant: do more sponsoring → list is short → takes less time to rerun the script | 10:41 |
| dholbach | yes | 10:41 |
| bdrung | dholbach: i first thought: getting sponsored bugs quicker off the list to avoid clashes | 10:41 |
| bdrung | :) | 10:41 |
| dholbach | http://blog.launchpad.net/api/three-tips-for-faster-launchpadlib-api-clients might help too | 10:42 |
| dholbach | I don't know | 10:42 |
| dholbach | I just can't put much effort into it now | 10:42 |
| bdrung | dholbach: i was thinking about splitting the data collection and the page generation into two different parts. what do you think about it? | 10:43 |
| dholbach | it won't speed it up but might make the code prettier, yes | 10:44 |
| bdrung | dholbach: it will make debugging the code output better | 10:46 |
| dholbach | bdrung: yeah | 10:49 |
| coolbhavi | hi all is there a separate ubuntu-sru channel on irc? | 11:03 |
| Laney | no | 11:06 |
| coolbhavi | because this SRU https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mobile-broadband-provider-info/+bug/607788 fixes a lot of bugs like this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mobile-broadband-provider-info/+bug/497319 so I asked | 11:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 607788 in mobile-broadband-provider-info (Ubuntu Lucid) "Please SRU mobile-broadband-provider-info into lucid(SRU exception)" [Undecided,New] | 11:07 |
| coolbhavi | Laney, so mailing the devs in the team is the only way for a quick upload | 11:12 |
| kaushal | hi | 11:13 |
| kaushal | is there a way to get php5.3 on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 ? | 11:13 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, yes you need a backport or so I think | 11:14 |
| coolbhavi | maybe | 11:14 |
| kaushal | coolbhavi: please point me to the URL ? | 11:14 |
| bdrung | kaushal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports | 11:16 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports | 11:16 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, hey typed the link at the same time :) | 11:16 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: yes :) | 11:17 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: s/typed/pasted/ | 11:17 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, I sent you a mail yesterday :) | 11:18 |
| Laney | coolbhavi: The SRU team members don't do the sponsoring themselves | 11:18 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: yes, it's on my todo list | 11:18 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, thanks | 11:19 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: yesterday i worked on "foo" | 11:19 |
| coolbhavi | oh! | 11:19 |
| coolbhavi | Laney, so contacting a dev might help? | 11:20 |
| kaushal | http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/allpackages | 11:20 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors and get me finishing "foo" | 11:20 |
| kaushal | i dont see php5.3 there | 11:20 |
| * coolbhavi checks | 11:21 | |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, which was that foo package? | 11:32 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: "foo" is a script that will end up in u-d-t and currently looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/81799/ | 11:33 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, great /me fires up python-interpreter | 11:35 |
| kaushal | coolbhavi: please suggest | 11:36 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, please follow backport workflow there | 11:37 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: can you fix the typo in the url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bhavani_Shankar/MOTUrApplication | 11:44 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, yeah | 11:45 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: and can you use lists in the "Examples of my work / Things I'm proud of" section | 11:45 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, you mean segregation? | 11:46 |
| coolbhavi | of the bugs or links to the devel-changes list? | 11:48 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: segretation? i was thinking about one list entry per bug | 11:48 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: do you want to join ubuntu-sponsors once you are MOTU? | 11:49 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, okay... I meant New upstream under one heading merge on another ftbfs on another and so on | 11:49 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, yes | 11:49 |
| kaushal | coolbhavi: I have followed it already | 11:50 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, once those processes are followed please report a bug adhering to those processes | 11:51 |
| kaushal | coolbhavi: so hardy wont have php5.3 in it ? | 11:52 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: the bug lists should look like: http://paste.debian.net/81801/ | 11:53 |
| kaushal | coolbhavi: is there a existing bug for it ? | 11:53 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, got it will reformat once I get home | 11:53 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, please search hardy-backports :) | 11:54 |
| coolbhavi | bdrung, thanks for the comments | 11:54 |
| kaushal | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php5&searchon=names&suite=hardy-backports§ion=all | 11:57 |
| kaushal | i dont have it there | 11:57 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, then you need to request a backport | 11:58 |
| coolbhavi | I think | 11:58 |
| kaushal | how can i request it ? | 11:58 |
| porthose | coolbhavi, thx for the list will leave my endorsement today :) | 11:58 |
| coolbhavi | thanks porthose | 11:58 |
| coolbhavi | :) | 11:59 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: renamed your application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bhavani_Shankar/MOTUApplication | 12:00 |
| coolbhavi | thanks bdrung will reformat it tonight | 12:00 |
| coolbhavi | kaushal, please follow the backporting process in the ubuntu backporters wiki page | 12:03 |
| bdrung | coolbhavi: you have my endorsement | 12:21 |
| coolbhavi | thanks bdrung :) | 12:21 |
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| LucidFox | I have a problem when creating an armel pbuilder image | 14:50 |
| LucidFox | the .tgz does get created, but it spams the console with lots of "qemu: Unsupported syscall: 335" | 14:50 |
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| LucidFox | Okay, so it does build after all | 15:04 |
| LucidFox | despite the console spam | 15:04 |
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| ari-tczew | TheMuso: ping | 18:43 |
| andreserl | Hi guys I have a quick question. is it possible to have a binary package that only recommends other packages like: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/471212/ | 19:58 |
| micahg | andersk: sure, they're usually referred to as meta packages IIRC | 19:59 |
| micahg | andersk: sorry, tab complete failure | 20:01 |
| micahg | andreserl: ^^ | 20:01 |
| micahg | andreserl: see the -desktop packages for examples | 20:01 |
| andreserl | micahg, ok thanks :) | 20:01 |
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| ari-tczew | question to main sponsors: if we will upload/attach a patch for merge any package before FeatureFreeze and you'll review patch after start FF, do you will require FFe process? | 21:40 |
| simar | What is quilt package in ubuntu and in general from where can we know that what a package is about? | 21:43 |
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| ari-tczew | !quilt | simar | 21:46 |
| simar | !quilt | 21:46 |
| micahg | simar: apt-cache show PKGNAME is a good way to find out about packages | 21:47 |
| simar | micahg: Thanks a lot. You cleared a bug hurdle in my life .. huh | 21:48 |
| simar | micahg: I have fixed a FTBFS now where to submit the debdiff and how? Should I create a bug and then close it? | 22:09 |
| micahg | simar: file a bug, attach the debdiff, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 22:10 |
| micahg | simar: you should close the bug in teh debdiff | 22:10 |
| micahg | LP: #XXXXXX | 22:10 |
| micahg | simar: here's teh document on requesting sponsorship: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 22:10 |
| simar | micahg: thanks, one more doubt. I have modified the source and created the ..ubuntu1.dsc. Now when I run dch -i again it will create ubuntu2.dsc I think. So Should I delete a new modify log that will be created and append changes to the old one ?? | 22:14 |
| micahg | simar: to edit the current changelog (i.e. fix something before you upload) use dch -e | 22:15 |
| simar | micahg: thanks , I will try :) | 22:16 |
| bluefoxicy | eughhhh | 22:30 |
| bluefoxicy | my net is slow | 22:30 |
| * bluefoxicy has spent 20 minutes trying to get logged into launchpad so he can upload an strace for a system-crashing bug in Thunderbird ~_~ | 22:30 | |
| simar | micahg: I have done the process but one thing, the bug is still present in the list http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi . Should'nt it be removed so that someone else should not waste time on it? | 22:32 |
| micahg | simar: it will once the debdiff is uploaded | 22:33 |
| micahg | to the archive, not launchpad | 22:33 |
| simar | micahg: ya but, now I have a intuition that the next bug I will try may be already fixed. How to check that its not fixed by someone. | 22:34 |
| simar | micahg: Whats the normal updation time in archives ? | 22:35 |
| micahg | simar: well, depends on who can sponsor when, anywhere from a few hours to a couple weeks or longer | 22:36 |
| micahg | simar: what's the bug #? | 22:36 |
| bluefoxicy | ugh | 22:37 |
| simar | bug #611867 | 22:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 611867 in kball (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in maverick. Error: 'mkdir' was not declared in this scope" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611867 | 22:37 |
| bluefoxicy | I still can't get logged in. | 22:37 |
| simar | micahg: | 22:37 |
| bluefoxicy | AND I can't use thunderbird without it turning itself into a fork() bomb | 22:37 |
| simar | micahg: I have a intuition that the next bug I will try may be already fixed. How to check that its not fixed by someone. | 22:38 |
| micahg | look at the bugs for the package in Ubunut | 22:38 |
| micahg | Ubuntu | 22:38 |
| micahg | simar: a few things, one the changelog is targetted to Lucid, I'm guessing you meant it for maverick | 22:39 |
| simar | micahg: ya sure for maaverick | 22:40 |
| simar | maverick | 22:41 |
| micahg | simar: the way to open a changelog for maverick is to do 'dch -i -Dmaverick' from lucid | 22:41 |
| micahg | simar: did you do a test build? | 22:41 |
| simar | micahg: k | 22:41 |
| simar | micahg: ya in a pbuilder for maverick | 22:42 |
| micahg | k | 22:42 |
| micahg | simar: does the package have a patch system? | 22:43 |
| simar | micahg: Should I upload again. I think I should start everything again for kball to make a clean debdiff | 22:43 |
| simar | micahg: I'm not sure as i'm a new to packaging. | 22:43 |
| micahg | simar: yeah, you should attach a new debdiff, also, you can just say modify includes in teh files, no need to add the include directives in teh changelog | 22:44 |
| micahg | simar: also, the package has a quilt patch system, so you'll want to add the changes as a quilt patch | 22:45 |
| simar | micahg: k | 22:45 |
| simar | micahg: ya had to install quilt to make source | 22:46 |
| simar | micahg: But how to add changes to quilt. Is there a wiki page | 22:46 |
| micahg | simar: 'quilt help' is useful | 22:47 |
| simar | micahg: k | 22:47 |
| micahg | simar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#quilt%20%28Example%20Package:%20xterm%29 | 22:48 |
| simar | micahg: Should I add changes of quilt patch system to same bug report? | 22:48 |
| micahg | simar: well, we usually note the patch name and what it does | 22:48 |
| simar | k | 22:49 |
| micahg | simar: example: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/1.0.5-2ubuntu2 | 22:50 |
| simar | micahg: Thanks, I think i really need it :) | 22:51 |
| simar | micahg: Now I will study it :) | 22:51 |
| micahg | simar: you're doing great :) | 22:51 |
| simar | micahg: :)) | 22:52 |
| micahg | simar: I'll unsubscribe -sponsors for the moment, please resubscribe when ready | 22:52 |
| simar | micahg: k | 22:52 |
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