[00:22] <dfarning_> rgs_, ping
[00:40] <rgs_> dfarning_: pong
[00:40] <dfarning_> rgs_, how are you
[14:15]  * lfaraone waves
[14:44] <kandarpk> dfarning, lfaraone: Good morning.
[14:44] <lfaraone> hello kandarpk
[15:02] <kandarpk> lfaraone: I've updated poll, please see if it is Ok when you review it next.
[15:10] <manusheel> dipankar: Hi Dipankar.
[15:10] <manusheel> Around?
[15:10] <manusheel> kandarpk: Hi Kandarp.
[15:11] <dipankar> manusheel, Hello Sir
[15:11] <manusheel> kandarpk: Around?
[15:11] <lfaraone> kandarpk: will do.
[15:11] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: hello sir
[15:11] <manusheel> kandarpk, dipankar: hello
[15:11] <kandarpk> lfaraone: thanks.
[15:12] <lfaraone> kandarpk: in poll, you don't have any mention of the copyright of debian/*
[15:13] <kandarpk> lfaraone: in git commit ?
[15:13] <lfaraone> kandarpk: and, based on reviewing the package contents, there is no claim by OLPC of copyright, I think it's safe to say that everything is © Collabora / WWWF / Morgan Collett
[15:13] <lfaraone> grantbow: in debian/copyright.
[15:13] <lfaraone> grantbow: oops, soryr.
[15:14] <lfaraone> kandarpk: in debian/copyright. see how other packages have a "Files: debian/*" etc section?
[15:14] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Oh, was thinking something else.
[15:14] <kandarpk> lfaraone: yeah ogt your point
[15:14] <kandarpk> *got
[15:16] <kandarpk> lfaraone: debian/* section is there in copyright
[15:16] <kandarpk> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-poll-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/copyright;h=79a1d9c0c9c9decba86c4c64af47c6e4eabd1bab;hb=HEAD
[15:18] <lfaraone> kandarpk: huhhh. I wonder what file I was looking at, then. my apologies!
[15:18] <kandarpk> lfaraone: np.
[15:18] <lfaraone> kandarpk: although I think the comments about OLPC I made above are still valid :)
[15:19] <kandarpk> lfaraone: I rather appreciate that you reviewed it instantly when I requested
[15:19] <kandarpk> lfaraone: yeah, correcting them
[15:20] <lfaraone> kandarpk: well, I had just finished jigsaw and was looking for another victim. :D
[15:20] <kandarpk> lfaraone: :)
[15:22] <kandarpk> lfaraone: done.
[15:23] <manusheel> kandarpk: Can you put an r? in front of Speak?
[15:23] <dipankar> lfaraone, hey. how are you doing?
[15:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: good, you?
[15:23] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: not sure if it is ready.
[15:24] <dipankar> lfaraone, I am good too
[15:24] <lfaraone> dipankar: great.
[15:24] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok. What steps are left in packaging Speak?
[15:24] <kandarpk> manusheel: I completed all the steps.
[15:25] <kandarpk> manusheel: just didn't refine it.
[15:25] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok.
[15:25] <manusheel> kandarpk: Could you please explain on what would need refinement here?
[15:25] <kandarpk> manusheel: didn't run lintian.
[15:26] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok.
[15:26] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: Oh, I had done that.
[15:27] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I'll go through the package for 10 min and add a r? after that
[15:28] <manusheel> kandarpk: Sure. That would be great.
[15:28] <manusheel> Are you working with Luke on something now?
[15:28] <dipankar> lfaraone, did you get a chance to look into log-activity?
[15:28] <lfaraone> dipankar: currently.
[15:28] <kandarpk> manusheel: no sir, was trying to make the documentation
[15:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Sure.
[15:29] <kandarpk> but am finding it very tough
[15:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Documentation, really ? :-)
[15:29] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: yes sir
[15:30] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: there are so many things which causes errors/warnings
[15:30] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok.
[15:30] <kandarpk> lintian is the biggest culprit
[15:40] <lfaraone> dipankar: can you convert the format of log's copyright to the newfangled DEP5 copyright file used elsewhere?
[15:40] <dipankar> lfaraone, you mean the thing I asked you before?
[15:41] <dipankar> about copyright being old format
[15:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: right. what'd I say then?
[15:42] <dipankar> lfaraone, you told "Thats nothing serious to be concern right now. It will work for now"
[15:42] <dipankar> lfaraone, I guess it won't work from 'now'
[15:42] <dipankar> :P
[15:44] <lfaraone> dipankar: ugh, sorry about that, I hate it when I'm inconsistant.
[15:44] <dipankar> lfaraone, hey. Nothing to apologize for. :)
[15:44] <lfaraone> dipankar: and I realize it can be frustrating to have the goalposts changed in the middle :)
[15:45] <dipankar> lfaraone, I just need to look for the format again
[15:45] <dipankar> :P
[15:49] <dipankar> lfaraone, can I refer to flipsticks' format : http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-flipsticks-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/copyright;h=39990edfb49f51a9c88a05219b1b1fb78959305a;hb=HEAD
[15:49] <dipankar> I think it is according to DEP5
[15:49] <lfaraone> dipankar: it looks right. http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ is the authorative reference, though :)
[15:49]  * dipankar is back in a couple of minutes
[15:53] <kandarpk> lfaraone: getting 'sugar-speak-activity: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/bot/PyAIML-0.8.5/setup.py'
[15:53] <kandarpk> very much like Ankur got for IRC
[15:53] <lfaraone> kandarpk: right, we discussed that on the mailing list.
[15:53] <kandarpk> lfaraone: is adding rule mentioned here sufficient
[15:53] <kandarpk> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-olpc-devel/2010-July/002741.html
[15:54] <kandarpk> lfaraone: yeah, it was being discussed that it needs to be reported upstream, is that required ?
[15:55] <lfaraone> kandarpk: yes, but our immediate fix is to add something to debian/rules' install rule to remove the exec bits on the files at build.
[15:55] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Ok then, I am just adding the rule for now.
[15:55] <lfaraone> kandarpk: yeah, just make a note to go back and submit the patch later.
[15:56] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Ok. thanks.
[16:08] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Ok, please review speak when you find it convenient
[16:08] <lfaraone> rofl: http://www.df7cb.de/debian/free_beer/
[16:10] <lfaraone> kandarpk: mark it r? .
[16:11] <kandarpk> lfaraone: oh yes.
[16:11] <kandarpk> lfaraone: sure.
[16:19] <kandarpk> lfaraone: done.
[16:21] <lfaraone> alsroot: did you author the icons in sugar-write-activity?
[16:22] <alsroot> lfaraone: nope, I just reordered existed icons for new toolbars design
[16:41]  * dipankar  is off to dinner
[16:41]  * dipankar is away: Be Right Back
[16:41] <lfaraone> kandarpk: congrats, sugar-connect-activity was sponsored.
[16:41] <kandarpk> lfaraone: thanks to you.
[16:41] <kandarpk> all praise
[16:44] <lfaraone> neeraj: please file sync requests for  sugar-{artwork, base, tookit, presence-service}-0.88 and sugar-pippy-activity when you have a chance.
[16:48] <kandarpk> lfaraone: will the sync request require uploading debian.tar.gz
[16:48] <kandarpk> ?
[16:48] <kandarpk> the packages you mentioned aren't in debian yet
[16:48] <lfaraone> kandarpk: no, a sync is juuust a bug report.
[16:49] <lfaraone> kandarpk: they are, last I checked, no?
[16:49] <kandarpk> lfaraone: but I uploaded debian tarball for poll and connect
[16:49] <kandarpk> as patch
[16:50] <lfaraone> kandarpk: right. that's because poll and connect were not in debian.
[16:51] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Ok, sugar-pippy is in debian ?
[16:51] <lfaraone> kandarpk: yes.
[16:51] <kandarpk> I was supposed to package it
[16:51] <manusheel> kandarpk: Congrats on the sponsorship of sugar connect activity. Neat work. Keep it up.
[16:52] <manusheel> lfaraone: Thank you.
[16:52] <manusheel> Appreciate your great support and guidance given to the dev team.
[16:52] <lfaraone> manusheel: happy to help.
[16:53] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: thanks sir, Luke has played a big role in it.
[16:53] <manusheel> dipankar_: Hi Dipankar.
[16:54] <manusheel> kandarpk: Great.
[16:54] <manusheel> So, connect activity is the second activity that has been sponsored.
[16:54] <manusheel> That is neat.
[16:54] <manusheel> lfaraone: Is Turtle Art available in Debian?
[16:55] <lfaraone> manusheel: not as current.
[16:57] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: poll and speak are in queue
[16:57] <lfaraone> kandarpk: poll looks good.
[16:58] <kandarpk> lfaraone: I wish you like speak as well.
[16:59] <lfaraone> neeraj: record has this lintian warning: "W: sugar-record-activity source: debhelper-but-no-misc-depends sugar-record-activity". Per discussion on-list, this warning can probably be ignored, but to do so we should override it.
[16:59] <lfaraone> neeraj: see http://lintian.debian.org/manual/ch2.html#s2.4
[17:01] <lfaraone> kandarpk: well, we'll find that out later this afternoon. I'm off for today, I'll see you all in the PM (EST)
[17:01] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Sure.
[17:01] <kandarpk> lfaraone: thanks for your help.
[17:02] <lfaraone> kandarpk: my pleasure.
[17:02] <neeraj> lfaraone, Ok
[17:15] <neeraj> lfaraone, I cloned my record repo using gbp-clone and ran git-buildpackage --git-ignore-new
[17:16] <neeraj> lfaraone, its failing to build with.. Error- http://paste.ubuntu.com/471151/
[17:17] <neeraj> as line 17 say's there is problem in parsing Depends: filed content but the control file's Depends field seems fine to me..
[17:36] <kandarpk> neeraj_gupta: can you please paste the depends line from control.in
[17:39] <neeraj_gupta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471158/
[17:40] <neeraj> kandarpk sir ^^.. Luckily I have last running record activity source code, But I think on git we have to remove the cause of bug and commit changes
[17:41] <kandarpk> neeraj: dont know much
[17:42] <kandarpk> have you tried regenerating control ?
[17:42] <neeraj> kandarpk, yes..
[17:42] <kandarpk> ok
[17:46] <dfarning> neeraj, hello.
[17:46] <neeraj> dfarning, He :)
[17:47] <neeraj> *Hi
[17:48] <dfarning> neeraj, how are you?
[17:50] <neeraj> dfarning, I am good.. and u?
[17:51] <dfarning> neeraj, Good.  Did luke talk to you about requesting syncs into ubuntu?
[17:52] <neeraj> dfarning, he asked me to file sync request for sugar-{artwork, base, tookit, presence-service}-0.88 and sugar-pippy-activity
[17:53] <neeraj> I had a word with kandarp sir how he filed sync request. Also I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[17:54] <kandarpk> neeraj: debian.tar patch won't be required here
[17:55] <kandarpk> these packages are there in debian
[17:55] <neeraj> kandarpk sir, Yeah.. you told me that :)
[17:55] <kandarpk> neeraj: Ok.
[18:02] <neeraj> kandarpk sir, as for memorize u filed a bug on LP asking them to upgrade it, I have to do it the same for these packages using request sync tool?
[18:02] <neeraj> s/it/
[18:03] <kandarpk> neeraj: haven't used request sync tool, but I think thats the way
[18:03] <kandarpk> neeraj: today only someone had requested for syncing memorize
[18:04] <neeraj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-memorize-activity/+bug/611260
[18:04] <kandarpk> please look for it in the mailing list
[18:04] <kandarpk> neeraj: yes
[18:14] <dfarning> neeraj,  great.  From now on can you key an eye on the version diff page and make sure that they are always in sync?
[18:15] <neeraj> dfarning, sure.. Once I get comfortable with sync request, I think I can maintain this task :)
[18:17] <dfarning> neeraj, thanks.  have you read the wiki pages about the issues.
[18:18] <neeraj> dfarning, for sync yes..
[18:19] <neeraj> I read about creating patches and submitting them on LP when I fixed some bugs with lfaraone's help
[18:25] <lfaraone> neeraj: are you still having the control problem?
[18:25] <neeraj> lfaraone, yes..
[18:27] <neeraj> lfaraone, I removed $(cdbs:Depends) filed and the package is building successfully now..
[18:27] <lfaraone> neeraj: it's supposed to be ${cdbs:Depends}
[18:28] <neeraj> lfaraone, yes
[18:28] <lfaraone> neeraj: and that line should be there.
[18:28] <neeraj> it was the {} see this http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-record-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/control.in;h=46c1378c2c26e9c2e8e809b59c49fe801a728d05;hb=0f14896cf08e583397a65b1647816623357a6ba3
[18:32] <lfaraone> neeraj: okay. don't remove that!
[18:32] <neeraj> lfaraone, ok
[18:39] <dfarning> neeraj, great.... this step needs to become second nature....  To to point where every morning while checking you email you process the syncs.
[18:47] <neeraj> dfarning, ok :)
[18:53] <neeraj> lfaraone, there is some problem in Depends field only..
[18:53] <lfaraone> neeraj: okay, what are you getting as an error?
[18:54] <neeraj> lfaraone, wait..
[18:55] <neeraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471179/
[18:57] <neeraj> Now I am changing the control.in file and after regenerating control file I will again run git-buildpackage --git-ignore-new
[18:59] <kandarpk> neeraj: your depends field reads :
[18:59] <kandarpk> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, ${cdbs:Depends}, {misc:Depends}
[18:59] <neeraj> Now after removing last dependency:- ${misc:Depends}, the package is building without ny error -> Control file http://paste.ubuntu.com/471181/
[18:59] <kandarpk> shouldn't it be ${misc:Depends}
[18:59] <neeraj> kandarpk, Ohh :(
[19:00] <neeraj> lfaraone, kandarpk I don't know how I didn't noticed that :(
[19:01] <neeraj> sorry for that.. correcting the control.in file..
[19:02] <kandarpk> neeraj: np
[19:03] <dipankar> lfaraone, /i have made the new copyright: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471182/
[19:03] <dipankar> if you can just crosscheck it once.
[19:07] <lfaraone> dipankar: line six, typo "ttp"
[19:08] <neeraj> lfaraone, lintian on my system is not giving this warning "W: sugar-record-activity source: debhelper-but-no-misc-depends sugar-record-activity" , http://paste.ubuntu.com/471185/
[19:08] <dipankar> ok
[19:08] <neeraj> ny reason for this?
[19:08] <lfaraone> neeraj: which file are you running lintian on?
[19:09] <neeraj> lfaraone, while building package, lintian automatically runs in between..
[19:10] <dipankar> lfaraone, there are actually different license in the package. how to handle them
[19:10] <dipankar> ?
[19:11] <lfaraone> dipankar: look at how the other packages handle them.
[19:11] <dipankar> lfaraone, here is the updated one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471188/
[19:12] <dipankar> the problem files are : logcollect.py and logviewer.py
[19:13] <neeraj> lfaraone, I ran lintian -iIv on *.changes file.. still no "W: sugar-record-activity source: debhelper-but-no-misc-depends sugar-record-activity"
[19:14] <neeraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471190/
[19:15] <dfarning> manusheel, lfaraone ping
[19:15] <lfaraone> hm, odd.
[19:15] <lfaraone> dfarning: actually, I'm on my way out to give the dog a walk, it's been a while. can I get back to you in 15?
[19:16] <manusheel> lfaraone: Sure.
[19:16] <dfarning> lfaraone, sure.  I am having network issues..... I also need to read the links you sent.
[19:16] <lfaraone> fair enough.
[19:16] <dfarning> manusheel, I ping you when I get done reading.
[19:16] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure.
[19:19] <dipankar> manusheel, dfarning : I need help with the first license
[19:19] <dipankar> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-log-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/copyright;h=b5ec0e031d0ae259c63e1f61c901e605afed5b19;hb=HEAD
[19:20] <dipankar> how to include two license in a copyright file?
[19:20] <dipankar> I am unable to find such example in chat -speak -connect -activities
[19:23] <manusheel> dipankar: Kindly ask this question at debian olpc mailing list.
[19:23] <manusheel> Copy Luke.
[19:24] <manusheel> neeraj, kandarpk: Do you know the answer to this question?
[19:24] <neeraj> http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/
[19:24] <neeraj> dipankar ^^
[19:25] <kandarpk> manusheel sir, dipankar : I am not able to understand what problem dipankar is facing
[19:25] <neeraj> dipankar see Standalone License Section
[19:27] <dipankar> kandarpk, neeraj, the problem is : I am unable to find the proper name of the license used here (the first one) : http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-log-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/copyright;h=b5ec0e031d0ae259c63e1f61c901e605afed5b19;hb=HEAD
[19:29] <neeraj> dipankar, did u tried copyright_hints?
[19:29] <kandarpk> neeraj: that might not help much
[19:30] <kandarpk> dipankar: no idea.
[19:32] <dipankar> there is no copyright_hints file too
[19:32] <dipankar> :(
[19:32] <neeraj> kandarpk, dipankar goggling  the text help :)
[19:32] <neeraj> its under MIT License http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
[19:32] <neeraj> see License Terms
[19:33] <dipankar> neeraj, great
[19:33] <dipankar> :)
[19:33] <dipankar> I never thought two paragraphs can be searched online now
[19:33] <dipankar> :P
[19:34] <neeraj> :)
[19:35] <dipankar> aah
[19:35] <dipankar> this is X11
[19:35] <dipankar> license :)
[19:37] <neeraj> yes.. other-X11
[19:55] <dipankar> lfaraone, I have made changes in the copyright
[19:56]  * dipankar says a good night and great day to all
[20:00]  * lfaraone is back.
[20:02] <manusheel> lfaraone: great.
[20:02] <lfaraone> manusheel: do you ever sleep? :)
[20:03] <manusheel> lfaraone: Lately, I have been sleeping very little :-)
[20:04] <manusheel> lfaraone: CTCP time ?
[20:05] <dfarning> lfaraone, can you send me the list of patch types you sent on gchat a few minutes ago?
[20:07] <lfaraone> manusheel: it queries you for your local time.
[20:07] <lfaraone> dfarning: let me see.
[20:07] <manusheel> lfaraone: 12:37 am
[20:08] <lfaraone> A. only useful in ubuntu
[20:08] <lfaraone> B. useful for debian
[20:08] <lfaraone> C. useful for upstream (and debian)
[20:08] <lfaraone> D. cherrypicked from upstream or debian
[20:09] <lfaraone> ideally, all of our ubuntu-local patches fit into A or D, ie they're either not useful outside of Ubuntu or they've already been included in Debian and/or upstream trunk.  (.. and are just being backported)
[20:09] <lfaraone> if we follow the upstream first policy for anything that could possibly have a value outside of Ubuntu, we will have very few problems.
[20:09] <lfaraone> if you push the changes as far as debian, patch management is easier.
[20:09] <dfarning> lfaraone, thanks
[20:11] <manusheel> lfaraone: Is "git repo already exists" the reason behind not packaging Chat?
[20:11] <manusheel> I think we should be packaging Chat.
[20:11] <manusheel> Git repo exists is a use-case, right?
[20:12] <lfaraone> manusheel: I didn't write that, but it probably means that Chat is already packaged.
[20:12] <lfaraone> manusheel: -> http://packages.debian.org/sid/sugar-chat-activity-0.86
[20:13] <manusheel> lfaraone: Ok. For 0.88?
[20:14] <manusheel> Is it packaged?
[20:14] <lfaraone> manusheel: yes, in http://packages.debian.org/sid/sugar-chat-activity-0.86.
[20:31] <lfaraone> dfarning: so, two new packages were sponsored by LI Daobing today into the archive, and are currently in NEW.
[20:34] <dfarning> lfaraone, I saw that.  Thanks. Are the more activities in your queue that are ready to be pushed?
[20:35] <lfaraone> dfarning: poll.
[20:36] <lfaraone> dfarning: should we clear out comments for activities / their ITP bug number when they're uploaded?
[20:36] <lfaraone> dfarning: (having r+s on uploaded activities makes it hard to grep through the table.
[20:38] <dfarning> lfaraone, I think so.  Once we are done with the initial package I think we will be done with the table.
[20:39] <dfarning> lfaraone, on second though maybe we should keep the table to help the new team members work through the process as they work though new packages.
[20:39] <manusheel> lfaraone: Thanks.
[20:40] <lfaraone> dfarning: maybe create a [[Sugar/tasks/archive]]?
[20:40] <dfarning> lfaraone, +1
[20:41] <manusheel> lfaraone, +1
[20:44] <manusheel> lfaraone: We would like to package Turtle Art and sugar pippy too.
[20:44] <lfaraone> manusheel: Pippy is already packaged.
[20:44] <manusheel> What is stopping pippy? I think it has been packaged.
[20:45] <lfaraone> manusheel: nothing is stopping Pippy, because it's already in Debian and Ubuntu.
[20:45] <manusheel> lfaraone: Yes, this is what I wrote above. However, we do need to update it.
[20:45] <manusheel> Right?
[20:45] <lfaraone> manusheel: not if I recall correctly.
[20:46] <manusheel> lfaraone: Ok. I'll check this part. How about Turtle Art and Paint?
[20:47] <lfaraone> manusheel: you'd have to ask ankur about Paint.
[20:47] <manusheel> Do you have Matt's e-mail id?
[20:47] <lfaraone> manusheel: mattva01 SWIRL gmail POKE com
[20:49] <manusheel> lfaraone: Thanks.
[20:49] <manusheel> Will write to Matt.
[20:49] <manusheel> lfaraone: Turtle art too has not been pacakaged, right?
[20:49] <manusheel> packaged*
[20:49] <lfaraone> manusheel: he's doing that, yes.
[20:51] <dfarning> manusheel, will you write to matt on the sugar team mailing list? He is subscribed.
[20:52] <manusheel> dfarning: Yes, will write to him asking on updates.
[20:52] <manusheel> lfaraone: Thanks Luke for the info.
[20:53] <manusheel> dfarning: What is the status of browse?
[20:54] <dfarning> lfaraone, is it possiable to reassign all bugs currently going to olpc-debian to sugar team in launch pad?
[20:55] <manusheel> lfaraone: e-toys marked for review by Ankur.
[20:55] <manusheel> Wish if you could review it.
[20:55] <neeraj> lfaraone, what should I do with s-record-a (as I have told you I am not getting that warning which you told me to override.)
[20:55] <lfaraone> manusheel: do you want me to drop what I'm doing and take a look at it right now?
[20:55] <manusheel> lfaraone: Meeting Kandarp, Ankur and Neeraj in some hours from now.
[20:56] <manusheel> lfaraone:Luke, you can have a look at it after what you are doing now.
[20:56] <manusheel> My apologies.
[20:56] <lfaraone> manusheel: no worries. he just marked it for review 4 minutes ago, so I'll get to it eventually, unless you want to make it a priority.
[20:56] <dfarning> manusheel, something in one of the browse dependancies is causing sugar to crash...  Raul and lucian are looking at it.
[20:56] <lfaraone> right now I'm looking at speak.
[20:56] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm pretty sure it's py-gi.
[20:57] <lfaraone> dfarning: tomeu recommended either having py-gi updated to a newer version or using an older version of py-gi.
[20:57] <lfaraone> (pygobject too)
[20:57] <dfarning> lfaraone, yes that is it.
[20:57] <lfaraone> s/older/ older stable version/
[20:57] <lucian> lfaraone: newer pygobect has pygi included, so that's the logical step forward
[20:57] <lucian> note that pygi is not a browse dependency atm
[20:58] <lfaraone> lucian: it's a surf dep, though, right?
[20:58] <lucian> lfaraone: no
[20:58] <lfaraone> lucian: oh?
[21:02] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok. Thanks for the update.
[21:03] <manusheel> lfaraone: Yes, please try to review e-toys today. Would like Ankur to spend quality time on its documentation as soon as we get r+.
[21:05] <dfarning> manusheel, at this point browse is at a point where it is a technical decsion between lfaraone, lucian, rgs_ and tomeu how to proced with pygi package.
[21:05] <lfaraone> manusheel: well, pygi / pygobject isn't maintained by anybody I know.
[21:05] <lfaraone> * dfarning
[21:05] <lfaraone> dfarning: so it'd be a discussion with the maintainer.
[21:06] <manusheel> dfarning: Yes, David. Wish to get some idea on its roadmap.
[21:08] <lucian> Got disconnected, chatting from my phone
[21:08] <dfarning> lfaraone, +1 and that is a discussion for you guys to have with the maintainer.  neither manu or I understand the tech well enough to have a opinion on how to procced.
[21:08] <dfarning> lucian, ^^
[21:09] <lucian> Lost some backlog
[21:09] <lucian> Last thing I saw was my own message about pywebkitgtk
[21:09] <manusheel> lfaraone: Ok. Pygobject is very useful.
[21:10] <manusheel> And Pygi too.
[21:10] <manusheel> Not, sure, why it has not been maintained.
[21:10] <manusheel> lucian: send me your e-mail id.
[21:10] <manusheel> Will send you the logs
[21:10] <dfarning> lucian, http://pastebin.org/434166
[21:10] <lucian> In case you didn't know, pygi was merged into pygobject
[21:10] <lfaraone> lucian: so I've heard :)
[21:11] <lucian> Lucian dot branescu at gmail dot com
[21:11] <manusheel> lucian: I didn't heard that. Thanks for the update.
[21:11] <lucian> Pygobject 2.14.5 or so has pygi
[21:12] <lucian> But it's still far from being able to replace pygtk for example
[21:12] <manusheel> lucian: Ok.
[21:13] <lucian> So nothing in sugar uses pygi right know afaik
[21:14] <lucian> And surf will have to use it in order to ever be merged back to mainline
[21:15] <lucian> Because pywebkitgtk is buggy and unmaintained and libsoup has no usable python binding (but it's required for feature parity with browse-hulahop)
[21:16] <lucian> I fear that surf will spearhead porting to pygi
[21:38] <lfaraone> manusheel: etoys rejected, small change, but a large issue.
[21:41] <neeraj> lfaraone, filling sync request  for sugar-pippy-activity, using requestsync
[21:41] <neeraj> requestsync --lp -s -d unstable sugar-pippy-activity
[21:42] <neeraj> ^^ seems fine or I need to change something?
[21:42] <lfaraone> neeraj: sure.
[21:46] <lfaraone> dfarning: right now speak embeds pyamil and pyalice. Should I mention that in my review email, and tell them to go package those components, or should I just leave them embedded?
[21:49] <dfarning> lfaraone, I think we need to split it up or it will not meet debian standards.  Is that correct?
[21:50] <lfaraone> dfarning: while it's technically possible to ship it this way, I would not personally sponsor such a package unless it was impossible or infeasable to unbundle.
[21:51] <dfarning> lfaraone, then let's try to split it up.
[21:53] <neeraj> lfaraone, some has already requested for sync for s-pippy-activity :) https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-pippy-activity/+bug/608766
[21:54] <neeraj> s/some/someone
[21:54] <lfaraone> neeraj: mk then :)
[21:58] <lfaraone> dfarning: okay. should we task someone with it, or should I do it?
[22:03] <dfarning> lfaraone, please ask manusheel to assign someone.
[22:03] <lfaraone> manusheel: ^^
[22:11] <dfarning> manusheel, lfaraone to prevent confusion, I am going to merge the https://launchpad.net/usr and https://launchpad.net/sugar they are very reduntant.
[22:12] <dfarning> lfaraone, manusheel does ^^ sound sane?
[22:12] <lfaraone> dfarning: ideally /sugar is for the upstream sugar projecft.
[22:13] <dfarning> lfaraone, it seems rather confusing?
[22:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: agreed.
[22:13] <dfarning> lfaraone, how should we fix the problem?
[22:14] <lfaraone> dfarning: well, we could disambiguate "this is for upstream sugar. sugar devel is coordinated at URL. if you're looking for sugar on Ubuntu, see URL"
[22:16] <dfarning> lfaraone, need to go will be back in a couple hours
[22:21] <neeraj> lfaraone, I have requested for sync for sugar-(toolkit,base,artwork,presence-service)-0.88. requestsync is indeed a very useful and easy to use tool :)
[22:21] <lfaraone> neeraj: yepp :)
[22:21]  * lfaraone is currently planning for DebConf.
[23:19] <dfarning> neeraj, ping
[23:19] <neeraj> dfarning: yes
[23:20] <dfarning> ready for the next task?
[23:21] <neeraj> dfarning: sure :)
[23:23] <dfarning> neeraj, next thing I would like you to start on is bugtracking and patch tracking.
[23:24] <dfarning> neeraj, do you remember the bug where when you start sugar the mouse buttons no longer work in gnome?
[23:25] <neeraj> dfarning: I didn't faced the bug. Ankur and other team member faced it.
[23:25] <neeraj> s/the/that
[23:26] <dfarning> neeraj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179
[23:27] <dfarning> neeraj,  That bug still exists in 10.10./
[23:28] <neeraj> Though I remember that Dipankar used a patch to fix it
[23:28] <neeraj> dfarning: ok.
[23:28] <dfarning> neeraj, We are going to have to find out which patch dipandkar used to fix the patch and apply it to 10.10
[23:29] <neeraj> dfarning: sure. Give a min to search logs and previous progress report.
[23:32] <neeraj> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/25/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t14:14
[23:32] <neeraj> * now looking for exact patch
[23:33] <neeraj> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/25/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t15:10
[23:35] <dfarning> neeraj, A good way to find the patch is to download the source package and look in the debian/patches dir.
[23:35] <neeraj> dfarning: ok I think I knw what needs to be done :)..
[23:36] <neeraj> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/0.86/1544.patch see this
[23:36] <dfarning> this is why we keep the patches the special dir.
[23:37] <neeraj> dfarning: in sugar-0.XX/bin folder there must be a sugar-session file
[23:37] <neeraj> In that I need to change client.set_string field (line 7 and 8)
[23:38] <neeraj> line 7 and eight*
[23:38] <neeraj> and create a debdiff file.
[23:42] <dfarning> neeraj, there should allready be a patch in the sugar package in the ppa.... we can reuse that patch.
[23:42] <neeraj> dfarning: Ok. I can also try to see the exact patch from patches directory.
[23:43] <dfarning> neeraj, +1
[23:43] <neeraj> dfarning: Ok. Lemme check the sugar ppa then
[23:43] <dfarning> neeraj, I am also downloading the package but am on a very slow connection.
[23:47] <dfarning> neeraj_gupta, I can not download the source package
[23:48] <dfarning> dget -ux https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa/+files/sugar-0.88_0.88.1-2ubuntu3.dsc fail for me.
[23:49] <neeraj_gupta> dfarning, same here
[23:50] <neeraj_gupta> dfarning, lately I fixed dependency issue for a sugar-0.88 package..
[23:50] <neeraj_gupta> I have the source code it.. I checked the bin/sugar-session file
[23:50] <neeraj_gupta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471283/
[23:50] <neeraj_gupta> see line 227
[23:51] <dfarning> neeraj_gupta, ok look inside debian/patches .  what files are in that dir?
[23:52] <neeraj_gupta> dfarning, there are 3-4 patches
[23:53] <neeraj_gupta> Also I am talking about the source which I downloaded from ubuntu-universe not sugarteam ppa
[23:54] <dfarning> neeraj_gupta, hmm what patches are in that dir.
[23:55] <dfarning> neeraj_gupta, this is exactly the problem..... we need a system to keep from losing patches.
[23:57] <neeraj> dfarning, sure.. But now the problem is due to launchpad about which we can't do anything
[23:57] <neeraj> I have mailed  the content patches dir