[10:26] <AlanBell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2010-July/004785.html
[10:30] <czajkowski> ugh someone wrote to me about a private conversation but posted it to a mailing list
[11:17] <nigelb> AlanBell: \o/
[11:18] <nigelb> w00t to Eleanor Chen! That's organic growth :)
[17:17] <pleia2> hey folks, ivanka invited the team to ubuntu-font-beta-testing (which means anyone in the team can do font beta testing) - is there any reason you can see why we shouldn't accept?
[17:25] <pleia2> I think it's great, I'll accept in an hour or so unless anyone objects
[17:33] <pleia2> and I'll drop her an email to see if there is any text she wants us to send along to the list with accepting this
[17:36] <IdleOne> pleia2: I see no reason not to accept the invite.
[17:37] <IdleOne> it is an Ubuntu font, U-W-P is a part of Ubuntu :)
[17:38] <maco> and the font is part of our logo
[17:38] <IdleOne> not to mention it's nice
[17:38] <IdleOne> the font and the helping test parts
[17:39]  * pleia2 nods
[17:47] <AlanBell> u-w is an open team is it not?
[17:47] <maco> i suspect one person will object, but that person already has access as an ubuntu member
[17:47] <maco> AlanBell: yes
[17:47] <AlanBell> which means anyone who wants the font can join the team to get it
[17:47] <maco> this was just discussed in #ubuntu-women
[17:48] <maco> ubuntu-accessibility is also open and was also invited
[17:49] <AlanBell> I am not objecting, just clarifying
[18:37] <pleia2> oh look, it's been an hour
[18:38] <pleia2> 'course now lp is giving me timeout errors, I'll try again in a few
[18:39] <maco> looks like it went
[18:39] <pleia2> there we go
[18:39] <maco> i got an email saying as much
[18:39] <maiatoday> so did I
[18:39] <pleia2> we should add to our agenda talking about who/what should be the contact addy so everyone doesn't get nudged every time
[18:40] <pleia2> (unless everyone likes it this way)
[18:41] <maiatoday> the link in the email doesn't work tho
[18:41] <pleia2> works ok for me, try to reload?
[18:41] <pleia2> might just be lp being slow
[18:43] <maiatoday> Nope: error page not found
[18:44] <AlanBell> works for me
[18:45] <maiatoday> strange
[18:45] <AlanBell> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-font-beta-testing that link?
[18:45] <AlanBell> maiatoday: are you a member of the ubuntu-women group?
[18:45] <maiatoday> yes but wait maybe because I'm not logged in
[18:45] <maiatoday> yes re member
[18:45] <AlanBell> ah, that would do it
[18:46] <maiatoday> I am almost always logged in to LP but this time somehow I wasn't sorry for false alarm
[18:46] <maiatoday> it works now
[18:51] <pleia2> also went ahead and added a note about creating an lp team for the leadership trio so there is an easy way to contact leaders and someone to own the ubuntu-women lp team so we don't need to toggle admin status with each new election cycle :)
[18:52] <pleia2> aaand another reminder, if you have anything to add to our July report, please do it soon, I'm copying it to the full report tomorrow: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ReportingPage
[18:53] <AlanBell> pleia2: I will run the stats and add to the report
[18:53] <pleia2> AlanBell: thank you :)
[19:55] <AlanBell> 4.70%
[19:56] <maco> ooh slight progress
[19:56] <AlanBell> very slight
[19:57] <pleia2> if the 2% mark for most projects still rings true, 4.7 is nothing to sneeze at, I'm pleased :)
[19:57] <pleia2> it certainly *feels like* I work with a lot more women in Ubuntu than elsewhere
[19:58] <AlanBell> pleia2: I was surprised at how low it actually is when objectively measured
[19:58] <maco> i dunno yesterday i tried to find women to ask a clothing question, and pleia2, akgraner, and MichelleQ were the only ones in the US i could think of to ask... my PM list is really :(
[19:59] <pleia2> and I couldn't answer because I fail at clothes questions :)
[19:59] <pleia2> but yeah, when I want girly advice I don't typically ask techie community people
[20:00] <maco> it was midnight here...i couldnt call my mum
[20:00] <maco> she'd think i was in the hospital. all my other friends are people-on-the-internet
[20:01] <AlanBell> your perception (and mine) is skewed by the people you talk to
[20:01] <AlanBell> so at conferences and so on (including proprietary ones) I figured it must be 20% or so
[20:02] <AlanBell> but it is actually more 20% of the people *I* spoke to which isn't an objective sample
[20:02] <maco> hehe
[20:04] <AlanBell> but anyhow, I think it would be healthy to exceed 10%
[20:05]  * pleia2 nods
[20:05] <pleia2> tempting to dissolve this project when we hit 10%, but I think we'll have to wait and see ;)
[20:06] <AlanBell> "wait and see" isn't the most effective management strategy for delivering a change to a key performance indicator
[20:07] <pleia2> AlanBell: the trouble is that it's not all about numbers, a sexist environment may remain even when we hit a percentage goal, then our job won't b edone
[20:07] <AlanBell> it might (and I was teasing with the pointy haired boss language)
[20:08] <AlanBell> however I think the two are linked
[20:08] <pleia2> yes, they're certainly linked
[20:08] <AlanBell> and both related to Ubuntu going mainstream
[20:09] <AlanBell> and being a proper professional and grown up operating system with a professional and grown up community
[20:11] <pleia2> yeah, there are a lot of factors
[20:16]  * AlanBell hugs the nice fast u-w wiki
[20:16] <pleia2> hehe
[20:16] <pleia2> that's the /real/ reason we have our own ;P
[20:17] <pleia2> actually, it was quite telling when we suggested we'd move back to the main wiki and canonical IS was all "NOOO, it can't take it! I'm sorry we'll fix yours! right now!"
[20:17] <AlanBell> I offered to help fix the main one but nobody seemed interested
[20:17] <maco> pleia2: hahahaha
[20:18] <maco> if they wanted to shrink what they have to hold, they could put wiki.kubuntu.org as actually a separae wiki that just holds whats currently at wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/
[20:19] <maco> instead of it just being another A record
[20:19] <maco> or is that CNAME?
[20:19] <maco> i get these confused
[20:19] <pleia2> ~$ host wiki.kubuntu.org
[20:19] <pleia2> wiki.kubuntu.org has address 91.189.90.229
[20:19] <pleia2> A record
[20:19] <pleia2> although
[20:19] <pleia2> ~$ host wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <pleia2> wiki.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.90.19
[20:21] <maco> round robin?
[20:23] <pleia2> a rr should show up in a host request (unless they're doing a non-dns-based one)
[20:24] <maco> oh
[21:22] <czajkowski> aloha
[21:23] <AlanBell> evening czajkowski
[21:24] <czajkowski> A Team rocks :D
[21:24] <AlanBell> it does