[00:25] <Kangarooo> will 10.10 have hibernate option?
[00:51] <pahindr> hi guys
[00:52] <pahindr> who wanna talks? about anything....
[00:52] <pahindr> it doesn.t matter about what
[00:52] <pleia2> pahindr: this is a support channel, you'll want to take "talk about anything" to #xubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere
[02:15] <cjae> any diff between ubuntu restrcited and xubuntu restricted?
[02:16] <charlie-tca> yes
[02:16] <cjae> ok
[02:16] <cjae> any recommends for lubuntu? restricted that is
[02:20] <charlie-tca> Since Ubuntu uses many different applications than Xubuntu, it also has more restricted formats to install
[02:22] <charlie-tca> I don't know what lubuntu uses
[02:23] <cjae> probably a good idea to use the xubuntu ones
[04:37] <khider> hello all, I installed xubuntu on mylaptop and lspci will   not bring up the wifi card
[04:38] <khider> Any ideas?
[04:39] <khider> Initially when I installed, it saw the wifi card, but subsequent boots (and installs) yielded nothing
[04:43] <khider> dead channel
[06:05] <SirTopHat_> I see the installer's partitioner can't recognize an NTFS partition's free space
[06:05] <SirTopHat_> =_=
[08:21] <Bashhead> im back
[08:34] <nikolam> Hm, it is interesting that when I put the sound volume down I can still hear sound. So only way to put the sound down is to hit mute.
[08:35] <nikolam> that is when I use eather xtce4-mixer or mixer plugin in xfce panel
[08:36] <nikolam> When i start alsamixergui it does bring the volume down to the mute when slider is all down
[08:38] <nikolam> audio device is integrated in Amd 690G chipset, SB600 southbridge, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[08:38] <Besogon> nikolam, you are using not those that your mixer is turned on
[08:38] <nikolam> Besogon, please restate, I did not understand you
[08:40] <Besogon> open mixer sound plagin (with right click on it) and chose correct correct sound card
[08:40] <nikolam> I think I installed Alsa since pulseaudio I think was not working with applications
[08:41] <nikolam> Besogon, I have HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer) selected
[08:42] <Besogon> Try other then. until it will works. I can't say much
[08:42] <nikolam> aha maybe actually pulseaudio is still working.
[08:42] <nikolam> alsamixergui displays pulse slider for some reason
[08:44] <nikolam> I think I see that problem is that pulseaudio mixer is still the main mixer.
[08:45] <Besogon> I don't undestand you why you think that Pulseaudio bad feature? (wine works well and it uses alsa when pulseaudio is working) Pulseaudio wrapp the alsa (because Alsa now can work as part of pulseaudio)
[08:46] <nikolam> well i had trouble on every install of xubuntu since 7.04 with pulseaudio.
[08:46] <nikolam> And I always needed to uninstall it to make apps work and I did it also this time
[08:47] <Besogon> strange. I hadn't. May be because I installed ubuntu and then installed xfce-desktop package
[08:48] <nikolam> I guess noone actually tested that xfce mixer can not put down the volume.
[08:49] <nikolam> ok, i see now in synaptic, i have pulseaudio installed actually..
[08:52] <Besogon> nikolam, look how it works for me
[08:53] <Besogon> works?
[10:33] <nicofs> I am running an application that is 4:3 on a 16:9 display - an it is streched to fit. how can i change that to a "boxed" view maintaining the aspect ratio?
[10:47] <handjob> Hi all. I need some help. I have been playing around with various wm's and now I can't login to xfce session. Every other seems ok, except the most important. How to trace where is the error?
[10:49] <handjob> Or meybe it's not related to my experiments with other managers? Yesterday everything was fine, today I wake up to find out that gdm somewhat 'restets' itself upon attempt to login into xfce session.
[10:51] <handjob> ls
[10:51] <handjob> ups : )
[11:45] <padrecarlo> how can i add the thunderbird icon to the task line?
[11:45] <padrecarlo> right click + new element, but i do not find thunderbird in the list
[11:47] <well_laid_lawn> in the list there should be one called   launcher   yes?
[11:49] <padrecarlo> ok, i found it, thank you
[11:49] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[11:53] <padrecarlo> how can i make xubuntu a little bit smaller, i have only 4 gb space on my eeepc
[11:53] <padrecarlo> what can i uninstall and how?
[11:56] <nicofs> padrecario: try the software center - it lists installed applications. you can uninstall those you don't need...
[11:56] <well_laid_lawn> doing   sudo apt-get clean   can help
[12:00] <padrecarlo> well_laid_lawn:and wich apps will it clean?
[12:00] <well_laid_lawn> padrecarlo: it removes the downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:00] <padrecarlo> nice
[12:01] <well_laid_lawn> if you install alot they can add up
[12:01] <padrecarlo> it gaves me 210 MB back, thank you
[12:02] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[12:02] <nicofs> I am running an application that is 4:3 on a 16:9 display - an it is streched to fit. how can i change that to a "boxed" view maintaining the aspect ratio?
[12:03] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: depends on the app...
[12:19] <nicofs> Wine emulation of Win95 game
[12:22] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i think it's a general X11 config thing... to tell the graphics card how to handle non-native resolutions...
[12:29] <padrecarlo> well_laid_lawn: thanks for assist, bye
[13:57] <slow-motion> hi
[13:57] <bazhang> !hi
[14:54] <chaturanga> I have a question concerning xubunto 8.04 - just installed it and usb ports won't work (nothing happens when you plug in usb mouse, or flashdrives, even though they are receiving power from the computer)
[14:55] <Sysi> you're not talking about 10.04?
[14:56] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[14:58]  * likemindead urges chaturanga to use 10.04 !
[14:58] <charlie-tca> However, 8.04 still has a year of desktop support and is fine to use, if desired.
[14:59] <chaturanga> yeah, it wasn't intentional to use an older version, just had it readily available on a disc when windows crashed and needed to replace it
[14:59] <charlie-tca> Take a look at the link I gave above. It should help with the usb ports
[15:00] <chaturanga> I'm looking at the usb mount link presently
[15:09] <chaturanga> okay, secondary problem here; several of the suggestions in the forum link suggest installing various programs; how do I get them onto the machine if I can't get the usb ports to work (no flashdrives)? the wireless doesn't work either, which is why I need to be able to connect a usb flashdrive in order to install a driver for my wireless card
[15:10] <chaturanga> one of the first steps in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB  forum is to install gconf-editor, but I get an error that says "couldn't find package gconf-editor"
[15:11] <charlie-tca> That version may need a wired connection to download the updates and driver you need for wireless
[15:11] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[16:03] <stefanos> hello to all
[16:03] <bazhang> !themes
[16:03] <stefanos> i need some help
[16:03] <bazhang> stefanos, see above
[16:03] <stefanos> plzzzzzz
[16:04] <stefanos> how to install a theme?
[16:04] <stefanos> i am new to this
[16:04] <bazhang> stefanos, I just told you
[16:04] <stefanos> ok ty :)
[16:04] <stefanos> !changethemes
[16:04] <Sysi> crossposting?
[16:05] <bazhang> he was told to come here
[16:05] <Sysi> right
[16:10] <stefanos> !changetheme
[16:12] <Sysi> you can use query too
[16:12] <stefanos> omg can u help me?
[16:12] <Sysi> !botabuse
[16:13] <Sysi> if you ment that
[16:13] <bazhang> !msgthebot
[16:13] <stefanos> i have downloaded the theme i want but i can't find a way to select it!!!!
[16:13] <stefanos> plz help...
[16:13] <Sysi> is it .tar.something?
[16:13] <bazhang> stefanos, did you read the links?
[16:13] <stefanos> yes
[16:14] <Sysi> right click → extract here
[16:14] <stefanos> done that but how i select it?
[16:14] <stefanos> soz for my english
[16:14] <stefanos> :?
[16:14] <stefanos> :/
[16:14] <Sysi> if it's in that folder, appearance settings
[16:16] <donKi> !help
[16:16] <donKi> !faq
[16:19] <stefanos> the only themes that i can switch to are only these that are in the root directory
[16:19] <stefanos> but i cant copy paste my theme there
[16:20] <Sysi> they work in home directory too
[16:20] <stefanos> omg this is so hard
[16:25] <stefanos> cand do it
[16:27] <charlie-tca> stefanos: what directory did you add the themes to, exactly?
[16:28] <stefanos> to / stefanos / .themes
[16:29] <charlie-tca> You should be using /home/stefanos/.themes
[16:29] <stefanos> it was a hidden file
[16:30] <stefanos> done
[16:30] <stefanos> now?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:31] <charlie-tca> You may have to log out and log in again to see them, I don't know
[16:31] <stefanos> ok ty anyway :)
[17:45] <heoa> I cannot find fswebcam from apt-get, is "apt-get update" sufficient for getting Ubuntu's apt-get list?
[17:46] <charlie-tca> yes, it is
[17:46] <heoa> so then you can find fswebcam?
[17:46] <heoa> after the command, soon testing as getting my comp back
[17:46] <Sysi> aptitude search fswebcam
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Make sure you have universe repository enabled
[17:47] <heoa> charlie-tca: can you give a command for it?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> for enabling the repository?
[17:48] <Sysi> it's enabled by default?
[17:48] <heoa> charlie-tca: yes
[17:48] <charlie-tca> version of xubuntu?
[17:48] <heoa> charlie-tca: the newest
[17:49] <charlie-tca> Applications -> System -> Software Sources -> Ubuntu software tab, check "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)
[17:53] <heoa> charlie-tca: have to do it manually as my pentium2 can hardly run x, some lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:55] <charlie-tca> use mousepad, uncomment the group that ends in  " lucid universe"
[18:21] <zaib> hi i am zaib , i cant see my menu bars plz someone help
[18:21] <charlie-tca> !panels | zaib
[18:22] <Besogon> hey!
[18:22] <charlie-tca> hey?
[18:24] <zaib> i run it but it sayes Failed to execute child process "xfce-panel" (No such file or directory)
[18:24] <charlie-tca> are you running xfce-panel or xfce4-panel ?
[18:24] <zaib> sorry
[18:25] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:27] <zaib> thank you , the panels  are back, it was my 1st day with linux
[18:28] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:28] <zaib> and will be a rememberable day
[18:29] <zaib> thanks :)
[18:29] <Besogon> who use xchat with turned on NAT with a router?
[18:30] <Sysi> i have used, it just worked
[19:06] <emma> how can i lock the screen in xubuntu so that no one can spy on me while Im away?
[19:07] <Sysi> ctrl alt del by default
[19:07] <emma> that will ask for a password then to unlock it?
[19:07] <Sysi> yes
[19:07] <emma> ctrol alt delete will kill X wont it?
[19:08] <charlie-tca> not in 10.04
[19:08] <Sysi> no, that used to be ctrl alt backspace
[19:08] <charlie-tca> that's right
[19:08] <Sysi> now it's something random
[19:08] <Sysi> if yoy don't have xscreensaver it may reboot
[19:52] <kangarooo> wow C+A+del is finally cool idea and it would be better if it would on resuming not open xscreensaver unlock but access to log in also for somebody else or guest also
[19:53] <Sysi> xscreensaver offers that iirc
[19:55] <kangarooo> yes but better without xscreensaver. just gdm login. couse in xscreensaver unlock clicking new user i have gdm login and loging myself back shows again xscreensaver login
[21:16] <slow-motion> hi
[21:45] <Bashhead> hello
[22:08] <kangarooo> charlie-tca: btw if interested heres that bug i was tryng to find. Bug 452208 and it looks like finally its fixed so maybe new iso or something 10.04 LTS .. ppl will be dl it still get crash couse its in 29 aprils latest 10.04 iso
[22:09] <kangarooo> its has 20-30 dubs
[22:15] <Bashhead> hey
[22:20] <kangarooo> hey hey Bashhead
[22:20] <Bashhead> im having troubles with conky
[22:38] <kangarooo> Bashhead: well this is for xubuntu channel so it may only be coincidence that somebody also has it. more help will be not even in #ubuntu but in google about conky and also in #conky /join #conky
[22:39] <Bashhead> alright
[22:39] <kangarooo> i for example havent ever modified conky but ive tryd it so i cant help about it more then what i read in google results
[23:06] <SirTopHat_> I just installed Xubuntu over XP on this old PC
[23:07] <SirTopHat_> The GUI is being much slower than it was in XP
[23:08] <SirTopHat_> I can't see any settings that would change the res either
[23:09] <charlie-tca> Settings -> settings manager -> display
[23:10] <SirTopHat_> I don't know how I missed that
[23:10] <SirTopHat_> =_=
[23:10] <charlie-tca> Maybe we hide it ? ;-)
[23:10] <SirTopHat_> I must need to update the graphics drivers or something
[23:10] <SirTopHat_> video card drivers, even
[23:11] <Sysi> what card do you have?
[23:11] <SirTopHat_> I don't know, actually
[23:12] <SirTopHat_> I'll have to find out
[23:12] <Sysi> lspci | grep VGA
[23:16] <SirTopHat_> I never thought I would see a shell lag
[23:56] <SirTopHat_> /lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic/build: no such file or directory.
[23:56] <SirTopHat_> I'm trying to install drivers for my intel video card
[23:57] <SirTopHat_> could not find a kernel config file. this was in the log also
[23:57] <SirTopHat_> dri.log
[23:57] <Sysi> you want to enable dri-support?
[23:57] <SirTopHat_> whatever I need to do to install these
[23:58] <SirTopHat_> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownloadcenter.intel.com%2FDetail_Desc.aspx%3FProductID%3D1044%26DwnldID%3D8203%26lang%3Deng&ei=m1NTTNWvJcSAlAfD6Zhu&usg=AFQjCNHnDWMXGA5rG5wRzHLVpvz4tFYL0g&sig2=l0QxA805Yne4_yom2ZrN2Q this is the driver I'm trying to install