[02:32] <gnoob> Hi guys, Im a admin at a school tired of windoze in the computerlab and Im considering switching to edubuntu.   Wine will have problems running in edubuntu on a thin client I guess? We use autocad and photoshop there (sadly).. I love gimp so Ill try to convince the principal and the teachers that gimp is just as good.. but autocad?
[02:33] <gnoob> Running autocad from wine ist a good idea I guess??  I better look for gpl alternatives I guess?  anyone knows?
[02:36] <pleia2> I don't actually know of any good open source CAD software for linux
[02:36] <pleia2> might try running it in wine, whether it'll run ok over a thin client depends on your server, network and the clients themselves
[03:18] <gnoob> ok, I wonder how wine handle multiuser system though, if it loads the whole program x numer of times, or only once + users.  But Ill give it a try I think  in a test environment ofcourse :)
[03:19] <gnoob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall   To follow this howto I need to install from lucid lynx's alternate cd? Said anything about Hardy there.. but thats only for knowing the history I guess? :)
[06:41] <ball> hello alkisg
[06:41] <alkisg> Hello
[16:32] <alkisg> !info tuxpaint
[16:32] <ubottu> tuxpaint (source: tuxpaint): A paint program for young children. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9.21-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 172 kB, installed size 408 kB
[17:09] <alkisg> highvoltage, the "missing translations" problem of tuxpaint (due to the universe demotion, LP #503919) also affects tuxtype, can we somehow reupload them? Is an SRU needed?
[17:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 503919 in Baltix "Translations missing in tuxpaint-data Ubuntu 10.04 package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503919
[17:09] <alkisg> If I remember correctly, you told me not to upload them to the edubuntu stable ppa, because we'd solve it with a more proper method..
[22:39] <highvoltage> alkisg: hey!
[22:40] <highvoltage> alkisg: opening that bug report and taking a look...
[22:40] <alkisg> Hey man, what's up?
[22:40]  * alkisg uploaded tuxtype to his ppa, but needs 3 days to build :)
[22:41] <highvoltage> yeah, ppa building has been terribly slow this week
[22:42] <highvoltage> I guess a good start would be to copy it to the edubuntu ppa once it's tested, I haven't looked into it yet so I don't know exactly what has to be done yet, at a guess so far it sounds like something that could perhaps be sru'd
[22:42] <alkisg> Just a reuploading, nothing more
[22:42] <highvoltage> ah, I see
[22:43] <alkisg> It was first build while it was in main, so translations were stripped
[22:43] <alkisg> (supposedly put in the langpacks)
[22:43] <alkisg> But then it was demoted to universe, so it ended up without the .mo files anywhere
[22:43] <alkisg> So a dummy version bump or something like that would suffice
[22:44] <alkisg> But I don't know who needs to sponsor this, if it can go to lucid-updates, if it needs an SRU etc etc
[22:45] <alkisg> It's been on my ppa for months, it's tested, it's fine
[22:45] <alkisg> (I didn't test tuxtyping yet, but I believe it has the same problem)
[22:45] <highvoltage> we have to follow the procedure that's listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:46] <highvoltage> it may be seen as not quite serious enough, but it is quite low risk so I would think that the SRU request will probably be approved
[22:47] <alkisg> "Upload the fixed package to release-proposed with the patch in the bug report" ==> who has rights to upload there?
[22:51] <highvoltage> I do
[22:51] <highvoltage> you do too :)
[22:51] <highvoltage> you're part of the Edubuntu Council, which is a member of Edubuntu Developers, and Edubuntu Developers can upload the Edubuntu packages
[22:51] <alkisg> Ugh, seems like I need to read up on all that :)
[22:52] <highvoltage> won't take you long to figure out, uploading to -proposed is the same as uploading to a PPA, but you need to file that SRU bug first and get it acked by someone in the release team
[22:53] <alkisg> So a new bug needs to be filed? Or should we reuse the existing bug report?
[22:57] <highvoltage> new bug
[22:57] <stgraber> mhall119: yep, I should be there.
[22:57] <mhall119> awesome
[22:57] <mhall119> it'll be an hour from my house
[22:58] <highvoltage> alkisg: and then subscribe ubuntu-release when it's ready
[22:58] <highvoltage> ohi stgraber
[22:59] <alkisg> highvoltage: hmm ok, after that meeting I got the impression you would be doing that, but I guess I can try it as soon as I get some free time to read all that stuff :)
[23:00] <highvoltage> alkisg: ouch, if I said I would, I will. I just seemed to have lost track of that to-do list item then
[23:01] <alkisg> np - I already have that on the greek schools ppa so I don't actually have need for it - so it may be a good chance for me to learn how to apply for an SRU
[23:02] <alkisg> (i'll be visiting NY for 2 weeks, so probably when i get back...)
[23:10] <highvoltage> alkisg: I'll upload it to maverick so long, that will at least take care of the first step as listed in the procedure
[23:11] <alkisg> highvoltage: the maverick package is ok
[23:11] <alkisg> It was uploaded while tuxpaint was already in universe
[23:11] <alkisg> It's not a packaging problem, launchpad did this...
[23:12] <highvoltage> ok, in that case the bug should be marked as fixed
[23:12] <alkisg> ...unless we file a bug on launchpad instead
[23:13] <alkisg> That one isn't fixed, it still messes translations up, when demotions from main to universe happen :)
[23:14] <highvoltage> alkisg: yep, certainly sounds like a bug needs to be filed against LP there