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QuintasanWhat can have a bigger score than this? :O00:10
Quintasanoh god00:49
QuintasanI bumped wrong build-deps00:50
Quintasan:O00:50
Quintasanapachelogger: omfg ping00:57
Quintasankde-sc-dev-latest: Breaks: libmarble-dev (< 4:4.5.0) but 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu2 is to be installed.00:58
Quintasan:O00:58
QuintasanI somehow think I'm missing something00:59
QuintasanFFFFFFFFFFFFF01:01
Quintasan!package libmarble501:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about package libmarble501:02
Quintasan!package libmarble5 maverick01:02
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:02
Quintasan!package libmarble4 maverick01:02
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:02
QuintasanFFF01:02
Quintasan!search libmarble01:02
ubottuFound: 01:02
Quintasan!search libmarble401:02
Quintasanthat's edu01:02
Quintasangrr01:02
* Quintasan is too tired to do anything01:04
QuintasanNight01:04
Tm_TQuintasan: sleep well01:06
apacheloggerQuintasan: a bug in meta-kde perhaps, IIRC it uses << otherwise09:18
apacheloggeralso09:18
apachelogger"I have returned"09:18
* nigelb switches on sirens. apachelogger is back.09:21
apacheloggerQuintasan: libmarble-dev (<< ${devLatest:Version})09:23
apacheloggerI think your problem is of a different nature09:23
apacheloggerryanakca: how can one accidently delete one's .kde Oo09:24
Quintasanyes09:45
Quintasanapachelogger: it's just that kdeedu depends on bindings09:45
Quintasanand since we do not have kdeedu we do not have libmarble09:46
Quintasanwhy the heck edu module depends on bindings?09:46
apacheloggerOHHH09:47
apacheloggercircular dep?09:47
apacheloggerOo09:47
Quintasanare you serious?09:47
Quintasankdeedu 09:47
Quintasanshadeslayer 09:47
Quintasanbzr(w8 on bindings)09:47
apacheloggerwell if edu depends on bindings and bindings on edu09:47
apachelogger...09:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: marble got python stuff I thinks09:47
QuintasanTROLOLOL09:47
apacheloggerwhich ought to be the reason edu builddeps on bindings09:48
Quintasanso. what should be built first?09:49
QuintasanI can do bindings but not upload em09:49
Quintasanoh wait09:49
Quintasanit's only 6mb09:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: neither09:51
apacheloggerthe circular dep needs to be resolved09:51
apacheloggereheheh09:52
apacheloggersec09:52
Quintasanwhat09:52
Quintasanbindings do not depend on edu09:52
apacheloggerwhat is the problem then?09:53
Quintasannothing :O09:53
apacheloggerI do not understand you really :P09:53
QuintasanNeither I doo09:55
Quintasando*09:55
Quintasanapachelogger: kdegames are bigger than 20MB?09:56
apacheloggerQuintasan: dunno10:25
apacheloggernot particularly small anyway10:26
Quintasangrr10:42
Quintasankremotecontrol was removed from kdeutils it seems10:42
Quintasanapachelogger: I wonder where the hell it went10:52
Quintasanhell it is there but is not built11:21
Quintasanomfg and tons of headers not installed11:21
apacheloggerI always like a good testbuild before upload11:22
apachelogger...oh hold on...11:22
apachelogger:P11:22
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apacheloggerstill no merge for my kwallet stuff11:24
ari-tczewshadeslayer: any progress on merge konversation?11:27
Quintasanhurr11:34
Quintasanapachelogger: kdebase-workspace is broken11:34
Quintasanmissing some devstuff11:34
apacheloggerQuintasan: how so?11:35
Quintasanbeats me11:35
Quintasanlet me check bzr11:35
apacheloggerwell11:35
apacheloggerwhat is the problem?11:35
Quintasankdeutils fails to find kde4workspace and kremotecontrol is not built11:36
apachelogger#no need to ship dev symlink11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libkwinnvidiahack.so11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libtime_solar.so11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libplasmagenericshell.so11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libksignalplotter.so11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libsystemsettingsview.so11:36
apachelogger./usr/lib/libplasma_applet-system-monitor.so11:36
apacheloggerthose?11:36
Quintasanno11:36
Quintasanha11:37
Quintasanhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/39211:37
Quintasan>KDE4Workspace-4.4.*11:37
QuintasanI think instead of removing that I should have replaced 4.4 with 4.511:37
Quintasansilly me11:37
Quintasanapachelogger: can you reupload it?11:37
apacheloggerOo11:37
apacheloggersilly you indeed11:38
apacheloggerQuintasan: you can upload too now11:38
apacheloggerjust do not build with -sa ;)11:38
Quintasanoh no need to push tarball11:38
Quintasangreat11:38
* apachelogger feels like uploading a patched ubuntuone-client so that kwallet works11:39
yofelfinally some progress :) bug 57949111:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 579491 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "iter_changes on caching logwalker supports only one prefix" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57949111:39
Quintasanoh11:41
Quintasangreat11:41
apacheloggerQuintasan: when is release?11:58
CIA-98[kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731110323-jvjeg6gh8owhbu1a * debian/ (changelog control rules) New upstream release12:03
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CIA-98[kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731111530-0vtuj2sa7fqxxwbv * debian/build-l10n.sh switch to stable12:15
Quintasanapachelogger: wiKi says  it's on 4th August12:16
apacheloggeroh dear12:16
apacheloggerwe better get started with lucid then?!12:16
Quintasanyup12:39
Quintasanapachelogger: last testbuild and kdebase-workspace with no missings shall be uploaded12:42
Quintasanapachelogger: one thing, can we filter out files from not-installed in list-missing hook?12:42
Quintasangah stupid build-depends12:46
Quintasanand silly me for removing dev files12:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: filter out?13:05
apacheloggernot-installed is already filtering list-missing13:05
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apacheloggerkde-l10n takes so very longish :(13:18
Quintasangah13:20
Quintasanwork space13:20
Quintasanthen utils testbuild13:20
Quintasanshadeslayer: get to work13:25
Quintasannao!13:25
shadeslayer:D13:26
shadeslayerhow did you know im online?13:26
shadeslayeri need to install nvidia-current firsst :P13:26
Quintasannothing comes first before packaging13:27
Quintasan!13:27
shadeslayernvidia-current does13:27
shadeslayeri need to ge that install first13:27
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QuintasanWhy you...13:27
QuintasanNo excuses, to work113:27
Quintasan!13:27
shadeslayerand then i need to get a cowbuilder :P13:27
Quintasan!!1!!1!!13:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 1!!1!!13:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: dude whats left?13:28
Quintasan>get a cowbuilder13:28
Quintasanyou are not keeping it on another partition13:28
Quintasan?13:28
QuintasanXD13:28
Quintasanshadeslayer: edu ffs13:28
shadeslayeredu is in bzr13:28
Quintasantestbuild it13:28
shadeslayeri did13:29
Quintasanso upload it13:29
shadeslayerseemed to build fine :P13:29
shadeslayerQuintasan: alright13:29
Quintasankdeplasma-addons is on depwait13:29
Quintasanand I need to update headers in kdeutils13:29
Quintasanbut kdebase-workspace comes first13:29
apacheloggerthe flipping fish!13:51
apacheloggerQuintasan, shadeslayer: kdelibs' changelog entry needs merging with the previous one13:51
QuintasanFFFF13:52
Quintasanshadeslayer: do it13:52
QuintasanI'm busty with workspace13:52
Quintasanlol13:52
Quintasanbusy*13:52
QuintasanIt seems lex has arrived13:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: dude... i cant install nvidia drivers and everything is slooowww14:13
apacheloggerso do not install it14:13
shadeslayeri need to install them to get it at full speed :P14:14
apacheloggerQuintasan: opinions on adding the addtional packages covered by ninja to the depgraph?14:15
shadeslayerbrrrrr14:15
shadeslayer<ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment14:15
apacheloggerholy dot14:29
apacheloggerhttp://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/twopi/twopi2.html14:29
apacheloggerthat is srsly scary14:30
shadeslayerwow14:31
shadeslayeri wish i could see the whole image properly :P14:32
shadeslayerhttp://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/twopi/twopi2.svg << 14:33
apacheloggerget the dot code and render it :P14:35
apacheloggeranyhow14:35
apacheloggerdoes anyone know if/how one can make a graph reuse edges ... i.e. if a->b and a->c and b->c so that instead of actually drawing an explicit edge from a->c the connection is represeneted via a->b->c?14:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: render it with?14:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: dot14:38
shadeslayerpython-pydot <<14:38
Quintasanapachelogger: what?14:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: dot14:39
shadeslayer!find dot14:39
ubottuFound: libdotconf-dev, libdotconf1.0, dot2tex, dotlrn, dotmcp (and 11 others)14:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: theres no package dot :P14:39
apacheloggerQuintasan: http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/constraint.gif14:40
apacheloggerinstead of having it draw a triangle, draw a line14:40
Quintasanshadeslayer: where is my edu14:40
apacheloggerimplying that a is connected to c via b14:40
apacheloggersince a->b && b->c => a->c14:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: dude hold on :P14:40
shadeslayeri need to get this cruft working first :/14:41
apacheloggerah14:43
apacheloggeruh14:43
* apachelogger might have found something14:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: i installed kgraphviewer to see it :P14:44
apacheloggertred \o/14:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: I did not even know there was such a thing14:46
shadeslayerheheh :P14:46
apacheloggerah beautiful!14:47
apacheloggertred++14:47
* apachelogger doesnt know why that is built into dot14:47
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw why do you need edu? anything depends on it?14:50
shadeslayer( anything you working on it that depends on it )14:50
ari-tczewQuintasan: available?14:51
shadeslayerari-tczew: ill do konversation tonight... first week of school was busy as hell14:52
shadeslayeror if your free do it :P14:52
ari-tczewshadeslayer: school? :O 14:52
ari-tczewwhere do you live?14:52
shadeslayerari-tczew: India :)14:52
ari-tczewin Poland we got a holiday14:53
shadeslayerheh :P14:53
shadeslayermy holidays were only for 6 weeks, in which i had to do industrial training :P14:53
shadeslayerok brb after reboot14:53
ari-tczewI could merge konversation ,but I don't like work with PC without sound. on my maverick sound has been lost :/14:54
ari-tczewwhoooooooooo! \o/ gnome-alsamixer rulez14:59
QuintasanCould NOT find KDE4Workspace  (missing:  KDE4Workspace_CONFIG)15:05
QuintasanFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF15:05
QuintasanI have no missing files T_T15:06
ari-tczewQuintasan: I've fixed sound! The solve was very easy. PCM was muted. I've fixed it on gnome-alsamixer.15:07
shadeslayerari-tczew: btw you need to enable all channels in KMix15:08
shadeslayerincase you didnt know :P15:08
Quintasanoh god15:08
shadeslayergah..no..meh... :P15:09
apachelogger^^15:10
apacheloggerkpraheditor is certainly not very stable15:10
apacheloggeradd a vertex and all goes kabooom15:10
shadeslayerdantti_: are you going to fix the bug that causes kpk to check for upgrades all the time in 0.6.1 ?15:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: do you actually dep on kdebaseworkspace-dev?15:14
Quintasanyes15:14
QuintasanJust retried the testbuild and it grabbed new version15:14
apacheloggerhttp://imagebin.ca/view/AmZOlzKQ.html15:16
* apachelogger ponders looking into debtree15:17
apacheloggerhm15:19
apacheloggersomehow debtree makes things worse15:19
apacheloggerhm15:22
apacheloggerI am not sure I like my new graph15:22
shadeslayerheh :P15:25
Quintasanshadeslayer: kdeedu poke15:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: importing my GPG keys15:28
QuintasanI hope that this time you have your /home on a different partition15:29
Quintasan^_^15:29
shadeslayernope 15:29
shadeslayer:P15:29
shadeslayeri have a /media/Data and /media/Backup15:29
Quintasanomfg15:29
shadeslayerso my keys are on backup :D15:31
* apachelogger would have guess data since they are data15:33
apacheloggereheh15:33
apacheloggerin the name of ugress15:33
apacheloggerwath the french fries15:33
Quintasangod damn I forgot15:33
Quintasansomeone hit me with something15:33
shadeslayerheh15:34
apacheloggerwhy does the ppa page of a private ppa suggest adding public ppa lines to sources.list15:34
apacheloggerhow stupido is that now15:34
* apachelogger hits Quintasan with soyuz hoping that either will break15:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: they are in backup because thats where i keep my data from $HOME15:34
Quintasangreat15:34
QuintasanI pushed commit to make it build but I forgot to add dev headers to kdeutils15:35
apacheloggerthat is what you get for rushing15:35
QuintasanThat is what I get for being angry15:35
QuintasanOr playing games during building15:35
apachelogger:O15:35
* apachelogger is supposed to attend a games evening with some weird card game or such15:36
apacheloggerQuintasan: lowlevel stack for lucid is up15:37
apacheloggerpreparing oxygen right now15:37
apacheloggerfeel free to go ahead with the other stuff you see ready for backport15:37
* apachelogger is wondering why we have no lucid branches really15:41
apacheloggerwould make things so much easier15:41
apacheloggercome to think of it15:42
apacheloggerpkg-kde-tools actually needs resyncing with upstream15:42
apachelogger....15:42
CIA-98[kde-l10n-common-lucid] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731144316-l70w98mclg21b76t * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog control rules) (log message trimmed)15:43
CIA-98* Lucid backport. * Depend on libkdecore5 rather than on kdelibs5, since the15:43
CIA-98latter is transitional now * New upstream release * New upstream release *15:43
CIA-98[kde-l10n-common-lucid] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731144433-nmm5i7bjebiir3w9 * debian/changelog merge15:44
QuintasanFFFFFUUUU-15:59
Quintasanapachelogger: why on earth list-missing lists all dev headers?15:59
Quintasanoh wait16:01
Quintasanaren't those commented out in control?16:02
Quintasannope they are not16:02
Quintasanokay I need to cool down16:04
QuintasanI rushed kdeutils too much16:04
apacheloggerI told you so...16:25
apacheloggeroh!16:25
apacheloggerkde-l10n-common needs a switch to turn off desktop file imports16:25
apacheloggerNightrose: the release script cannot do git tagging because it was not supported on gitorious16:28
apacheloggeralso16:29
apacheloggerNightrose: when can we meet again?16:30
* apachelogger feels incomplete :(16:30
shadeslayerQuintasan: uploading kdedu16:31
shadeslayer*kdeedu16:31
shadeslayeri hope all other deps are in place16:31
apacheloggeryou hope?16:31
apacheloggerOo16:31
apacheloggerthat is the wrong attitude my dear friend16:31
shadeslayerok checking :D16:32
shadeslayeryeah theyre there16:32
shadeslayerthis will take time16:34
apacheloggeroh a new version of mint is out16:52
apacheloggeryay16:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: is that good for kubuntu>16:55
apacheloggerwell they are downstream to us...16:58
apacheloggerOTOH our downstream is not very communicative I feel :S16:58
shadeslayerwow.. kubuntu is upstream for mint? .. amazing16:59
shadeslayeredu uploaded16:59
shadeslayerafk for a while17:01
Nightroseapachelogger: *huggles*17:04
apacheloggerNightrose: that does not answer my question ;)17:07
Nightroseapachelogger: i no :/17:07
apacheloggeraha!17:30
apacheloggeroho!17:30
apacheloggeruha!17:30
apachelogger!info akonadi maverick17:30
ubottuPackage akonadi does not exist in maverick17:30
apachelogger!info akonadi-server maverick17:30
ubottuakonadi-server (source: akonadi): Akonadi PIM storage service. In component main, is extra. Version 1.3.90-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 2681 kB, installed size 8948 kB17:30
apacheloggeroha!17:30
apacheloggerany taked on updating that to 1.4?17:31
apacheloggerNightrose: I am pondering coming to the release party in stuttgart17:31
apacheloggerthen again I think someone annnounced to come visit graz that weekend *shrug*17:31
abhijithello17:41
abhijit:)17:41
apacheloggerQuintasan: kde-l10n for ludicrous lullaby is ready...17:41
shadeslayerabhijit: hey :D17:42
abhijitshadeslayer, :)17:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: i think kdeedu is done17:58
shadeslayerbuilding that is17:58
Quintasanwell18:07
QuintasanGreat18:07
Quintasanapachelogger: I'm testing maverick upgrade18:08
Quintasanshadeslayer: thanks, retrying kdeplasma-addons18:08
* Quintasan goes powernap18:08
Quintasanand moar lucid packaging18:08
* apachelogger should have been out the door half an hour ago18:09
apacheloggerrightly, someone continue doing lucid backports...18:09
yofelhm, how does sound work now in maverick? my default phonon is set like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/fie8Ryx.html and I have no sound until I move 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo' to the top (that's pulse?)18:25
yofels/my/by/18:25
shadeslayeryofel: i have http://imgur.com/uRvLN in maverick18:26
yofelyeah, which is ok, but I have a hdmi port in my thinkpad which isn't only for video obviously, and for some reason that's the preferred output..18:27
yofel(dummy comes from my last session where I played around with the settings and ended up with only dummy output available I guess)18:28
shadeslayeri would guess the HDMI out does audio too18:28
shadeslayeri think thats the latest feature in HDMI ports18:28
yofelit does, hdmi is audio and video, that doesn't help me though as my phonon ignores my notebook speakers by default which isn't really nice18:29
yofelesp. since I don't have anything connected to the hdmi port18:29
* Quintasan had pizza right away after his power nap19:19
Quintasanawesome19:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: you were asking about soprano or akonadi before?19:45
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crimsunapachelogger: what did you need? I have nothing in my backscroll, sorry.20:32
Nightroseapachelogger: \o/ yes! co0me to stuttgart20:33
macougghhhh something nasty is going on with plasma netbook in the beta ppa20:41
macothe 4.5 rc20:41
macoa mysterious white window keeps coming up.  its just blank..dont know where it comes from. it shows up and disappears repeatedly if i view window list....has no title, and my attempts at xprop'ing it failed since it just kinda disappears and i get the xprop data of the window behind :-/20:42
macoaccessing the panel makes it show up, and then trying to go back to what im doing...my screen just flashes back and forth between the window im on and solid white over and over20:43
macoand my google-fu is failing me20:44
shadeslayermaco: just in case.. is rekonq/browser running at that time with flash ?20:45
macofirefox is running but i dont think there's any flash stuff20:45
shadeslayerhmm.. well its genrally flash+browser here20:45
macocan try killing firefox20:45
macowahhh immediately after killing firefox it went strobe-light on me20:46
crimsunthat's a Feature.20:46
macothe white window is still there20:46
crimsunthat, too, is a Feature.20:46
macoi tried closing it before, and it crashed plasma netbook20:47
macocrimsun: you have an odd definition of feature20:47
crimsunnot just "feature". "Feature".20:47
macocrimsun: oh youre speaking in ScottKisms?20:47
crimsunare you implying scott is older than the OED?20:48
macoim referring to his usage of it20:48
macoif i try to alt+tab to search&launch, that also starts it going. i have to access that screen through the panel20:48
macook i *think* its gone. after changing settings to use a clean session each login, its not here right now.. will see how long that lasts20:55
maconow, battery out so bye20:55
neversfeldeshtylman: ping21:06
shtylmanneversfelde: pong21:07
neversfeldeshtylman: hi, you created the new kubuntu logo, right?21:07
shtylmanneversfelde: I think thats the story we are going with :)21:07
neversfeldeshtylman: we need a new logo for kubuntu-de.org, too. How hard is it to add a -de.org to it? And how can I do this?21:08
shtylmanyou want the whole thing to say kubuntu-do.org (circle) ?21:09
shtylmanneversfelde: now that the ubuntu font is in beta, should be very easy, just get the font and make the text21:10
shtylmanneversfelde: I didn't make the text part anyway21:10
shtylmanbut it is just written using the new font iirc21:10
neversfeldeshtylman: so, simply open it in an application like inkscape and add some letters? I will try it, thanks21:13
shtylmanneversfelde: the current svg probly wasn't made like that.. but yes.. just use inkscape to get the circle logo and type out kubuntu-de.org in the new font21:13
shtylmanshould be just fine21:13
shadeslayerQuintasan: dont you test build? :P21:24

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