[00:10] <Quintasan> Start in 16 minutes (12505)
[00:10] <Quintasan> What can have a bigger score than this? :O
[00:49] <Quintasan> oh god
[00:50] <Quintasan> I bumped wrong build-deps
[00:50] <Quintasan> :O
[00:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: omfg ping
[00:58] <Quintasan> kde-sc-dev-latest: Breaks: libmarble-dev (< 4:4.5.0) but 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu2 is to be installed.
[00:58] <Quintasan> :O
[00:59] <Quintasan> I somehow think I'm missing something
[01:01] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFFF
[01:02] <Quintasan> !package libmarble5
[01:02] <Quintasan> !package libmarble5 maverick
[01:02] <Quintasan> !package libmarble4 maverick
[01:02] <Quintasan> FFF
[01:02] <Quintasan> !search libmarble
[01:02] <Quintasan> !search libmarble4
[01:02] <Quintasan> that's edu
[01:02] <Quintasan> grr
[01:04]  * Quintasan is too tired to do anything
[01:04] <Quintasan> Night
[01:06] <Tm_T> Quintasan: sleep well
[09:18] <apachelogger> Quintasan: a bug in meta-kde perhaps, IIRC it uses << otherwise
[09:18] <apachelogger> also
[09:18] <apachelogger> "I have returned"
[09:21]  * nigelb switches on sirens.  apachelogger is back.
[09:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: libmarble-dev (<< ${devLatest:Version})
[09:23] <apachelogger> I think your problem is of a different nature
[09:24] <apachelogger> ryanakca: how can one accidently delete one's .kde Oo
[09:45] <Quintasan> yes
[09:45] <Quintasan> apachelogger: it's just that kdeedu depends on bindings
[09:46] <Quintasan> and since we do not have kdeedu we do not have libmarble
[09:46] <Quintasan> why the heck edu module depends on bindings?
[09:47] <apachelogger> OHHH
[09:47] <apachelogger> circular dep?
[09:47] <apachelogger> Oo
[09:47] <Quintasan> are you serious?
[09:47] <Quintasan> kdeedu 	
[09:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer 	
[09:47] <Quintasan> bzr(w8 on bindings)
[09:47] <apachelogger> well if edu depends on bindings and bindings on edu
[09:47] <apachelogger> ...
[09:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan: marble got python stuff I thinks
[09:47] <Quintasan> TROLOLOL
[09:48] <apachelogger> which ought to be the reason edu builddeps on bindings
[09:49] <Quintasan> so. what should be built first?
[09:49] <Quintasan> I can do bindings but not upload em
[09:49] <Quintasan> oh wait
[09:49] <Quintasan> it's only 6mb
[09:51] <apachelogger> Quintasan: neither
[09:51] <apachelogger> the circular dep needs to be resolved
[09:52] <apachelogger> eheheh
[09:52] <apachelogger> sec
[09:52] <Quintasan> what
[09:52] <Quintasan> bindings do not depend on edu
[09:53] <apachelogger> what is the problem then?
[09:53] <Quintasan> nothing :O
[09:53] <apachelogger> I do not understand you really :P
[09:55] <Quintasan> Neither I doo
[09:55] <Quintasan> do*
[09:56] <Quintasan> apachelogger: kdegames are bigger than 20MB?
[10:25] <apachelogger> Quintasan: dunno
[10:26] <apachelogger> not particularly small anyway
[10:42] <Quintasan> grr
[10:42] <Quintasan> kremotecontrol was removed from kdeutils it seems
[10:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I wonder where the hell it went
[11:21] <Quintasan> hell it is there but is not built
[11:21] <Quintasan> omfg and tons of headers not installed
[11:22] <apachelogger> I always like a good testbuild before upload
[11:22] <apachelogger> ...oh hold on...
[11:22] <apachelogger> :P
[11:24] <apachelogger> still no merge for my kwallet stuff
[11:27] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: any progress on merge konversation?
[11:34] <Quintasan> hurr
[11:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: kdebase-workspace is broken
[11:34] <Quintasan> missing some devstuff
[11:35] <apachelogger> Quintasan: how so?
[11:35] <Quintasan> beats me
[11:35] <Quintasan> let me check bzr
[11:35] <apachelogger> well
[11:35] <apachelogger> what is the problem?
[11:36] <Quintasan> kdeutils fails to find kde4workspace and kremotecontrol is not built
[11:36] <apachelogger> #no need to ship dev symlink
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libkwinnvidiahack.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libtime_solar.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libplasmagenericshell.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libksignalplotter.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libsystemsettingsview.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libplasma_applet-system-monitor.so
[11:36] <apachelogger> those?
[11:36] <Quintasan> no
[11:37] <Quintasan> ha
[11:37] <Quintasan> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/392
[11:37] <Quintasan> >KDE4Workspace-4.4.*
[11:37] <Quintasan> I think instead of removing that I should have replaced 4.4 with 4.5
[11:37] <Quintasan> silly me
[11:37] <Quintasan> apachelogger: can you reupload it?
[11:37] <apachelogger> Oo
[11:38] <apachelogger> silly you indeed
[11:38] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you can upload too now
[11:38] <apachelogger> just do not build with -sa ;)
[11:38] <Quintasan> oh no need to push tarball
[11:38] <Quintasan> great
[11:39]  * apachelogger feels like uploading a patched ubuntuone-client so that kwallet works
[11:39] <yofel> finally some progress :) bug 579491
[11:41] <Quintasan> oh
[11:41] <Quintasan> great
[11:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: when is release?
[12:03] <CIA-98> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731110323-jvjeg6gh8owhbu1a * debian/ (changelog control rules) New upstream release
[12:15] <CIA-98> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731111530-0vtuj2sa7fqxxwbv * debian/build-l10n.sh switch to stable
[12:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: wiKi says  it's on 4th August
[12:16] <apachelogger> oh dear
[12:16] <apachelogger> we better get started with lucid then?!
[12:39] <Quintasan> yup
[12:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: last testbuild and kdebase-workspace with no missings shall be uploaded
[12:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: one thing, can we filter out files from not-installed in list-missing hook?
[12:46] <Quintasan> gah stupid build-depends
[12:47] <Quintasan> and silly me for removing dev files
[13:05] <apachelogger> Quintasan: filter out?
[13:05] <apachelogger> not-installed is already filtering list-missing
[13:18] <apachelogger> kde-l10n takes so very longish :(
[13:20] <Quintasan> gah
[13:20] <Quintasan> work space
[13:20] <Quintasan> then utils testbuild
[13:25] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: get to work
[13:25] <Quintasan> nao!
[13:26] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:26] <shadeslayer> how did you know im online?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> i need to install nvidia-current firsst :P
[13:27] <Quintasan> nothing comes first before packaging
[13:27] <Quintasan> !
[13:27] <shadeslayer> nvidia-current does
[13:27] <shadeslayer> i need to ge that install first
[13:27] <Quintasan> Why you...
[13:27] <Quintasan> No excuses, to work1
[13:27] <Quintasan> !
[13:27] <shadeslayer> and then i need to get a cowbuilder :P
[13:28] <Quintasan> !!1!!1!!
[13:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dude whats left?
[13:28] <Quintasan> >get a cowbuilder
[13:28] <Quintasan> you are not keeping it on another partition
[13:28] <Quintasan> ?
[13:28] <Quintasan> XD
[13:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: edu ffs
[13:28] <shadeslayer> edu is in bzr
[13:28] <Quintasan> testbuild it
[13:29] <shadeslayer> i did
[13:29] <Quintasan> so upload it
[13:29] <shadeslayer> seemed to build fine :P
[13:29] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: alright
[13:29] <Quintasan> kdeplasma-addons is on depwait
[13:29] <Quintasan> and I need to update headers in kdeutils
[13:29] <Quintasan> but kdebase-workspace comes first
[13:51] <apachelogger> the flipping fish!
[13:51] <apachelogger> Quintasan, shadeslayer: kdelibs' changelog entry needs merging with the previous one
[13:52] <Quintasan> FFFF
[13:52] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: do it
[13:52] <Quintasan> I'm busty with workspace
[13:52] <Quintasan> lol
[13:52] <Quintasan> busy*
[13:59] <Quintasan> It seems lex has arrived
[14:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude... i cant install nvidia drivers and everything is slooowww
[14:13] <apachelogger> so do not install it
[14:14] <shadeslayer> i need to install them to get it at full speed :P
[14:15] <apachelogger> Quintasan: opinions on adding the addtional packages covered by ninja to the depgraph?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> brrrrr
 For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment
[14:29] <apachelogger> holy dot
[14:29] <apachelogger> http://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/twopi/twopi2.html
[14:30] <apachelogger> that is srsly scary
[14:31] <shadeslayer> wow
[14:32] <shadeslayer> i wish i could see the whole image properly :P
[14:33] <shadeslayer> http://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/twopi/twopi2.svg << 
[14:35] <apachelogger> get the dot code and render it :P
[14:35] <apachelogger> anyhow
[14:36] <apachelogger> does anyone know if/how one can make a graph reuse edges ... i.e. if a->b and a->c and b->c so that instead of actually drawing an explicit edge from a->c the connection is represeneted via a->b->c?
[14:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: render it with?
[14:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dot
[14:38] <shadeslayer> python-pydot <<
[14:39] <Quintasan> apachelogger: what?
[14:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dot
[14:39] <shadeslayer> !find dot
[14:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: theres no package dot :P
[14:40] <apachelogger> Quintasan: http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/constraint.gif
[14:40] <apachelogger> instead of having it draw a triangle, draw a line
[14:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: where is my edu
[14:40] <apachelogger> implying that a is connected to c via b
[14:40] <apachelogger> since a->b && b->c => a->c
[14:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dude hold on :P
[14:41] <shadeslayer> i need to get this cruft working first :/
[14:43] <apachelogger> ah
[14:43] <apachelogger> uh
[14:43]  * apachelogger might have found something
[14:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i installed kgraphviewer to see it :P
[14:46] <apachelogger> tred \o/
[14:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I did not even know there was such a thing
[14:46] <shadeslayer> heheh :P
[14:47] <apachelogger> ah beautiful!
[14:47] <apachelogger> tred++
[14:47]  * apachelogger doesnt know why that is built into dot
[14:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: btw why do you need edu? anything depends on it?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> ( anything you working on it that depends on it )
[14:51] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: available?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: ill do konversation tonight... first week of school was busy as hell
[14:52] <shadeslayer> or if your free do it :P
[14:52] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: school? :O 
[14:52] <ari-tczew> where do you live?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: India :)
[14:53] <ari-tczew> in Poland we got a holiday
[14:53] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[14:53] <shadeslayer> my holidays were only for 6 weeks, in which i had to do industrial training :P
[14:53] <shadeslayer> ok brb after reboot
[14:54] <ari-tczew> I could merge konversation ,but I don't like work with PC without sound. on my maverick sound has been lost :/
[14:59] <ari-tczew> whoooooooooo! \o/ gnome-alsamixer rulez
[15:05] <Quintasan> Could NOT find KDE4Workspace  (missing:  KDE4Workspace_CONFIG)
[15:05] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[15:06] <Quintasan> I have no missing files T_T
[15:07] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: I've fixed sound! The solve was very easy. PCM was muted. I've fixed it on gnome-alsamixer.
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: btw you need to enable all channels in KMix
[15:08] <shadeslayer> incase you didnt know :P
[15:08] <Quintasan> oh god
[15:09] <shadeslayer> gah..no..meh... :P
[15:10] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:10] <apachelogger> kpraheditor is certainly not very stable
[15:10] <apachelogger> add a vertex and all goes kabooom
[15:11] <shadeslayer> dantti_: are you going to fix the bug that causes kpk to check for upgrades all the time in 0.6.1 ?
[15:14] <apachelogger> Quintasan: do you actually dep on kdebaseworkspace-dev?
[15:14] <Quintasan> yes
[15:14] <Quintasan> Just retried the testbuild and it grabbed new version
[15:16] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/AmZOlzKQ.html
[15:17]  * apachelogger ponders looking into debtree
[15:19] <apachelogger> hm
[15:19] <apachelogger> somehow debtree makes things worse
[15:22] <apachelogger> hm
[15:22] <apachelogger> I am not sure I like my new graph
[15:25] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[15:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: kdeedu poke
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: importing my GPG keys
[15:29] <Quintasan> I hope that this time you have your /home on a different partition
[15:29] <Quintasan> ^_^
[15:29] <shadeslayer> nope 
[15:29] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:29] <shadeslayer> i have a /media/Data and /media/Backup
[15:29] <Quintasan> omfg
[15:31] <shadeslayer> so my keys are on backup :D
[15:33]  * apachelogger would have guess data since they are data
[15:33] <apachelogger> eheh
[15:33] <apachelogger> in the name of ugress
[15:33] <apachelogger> wath the french fries
[15:33] <Quintasan> god damn I forgot
[15:33] <Quintasan> someone hit me with something
[15:34] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:34] <apachelogger> why does the ppa page of a private ppa suggest adding public ppa lines to sources.list
[15:34] <apachelogger> how stupido is that now
[15:34]  * apachelogger hits Quintasan with soyuz hoping that either will break
[15:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: they are in backup because thats where i keep my data from $HOME
[15:34] <Quintasan> great
[15:35] <Quintasan> I pushed commit to make it build but I forgot to add dev headers to kdeutils
[15:35] <apachelogger> that is what you get for rushing
[15:35] <Quintasan> That is what I get for being angry
[15:35] <Quintasan> Or playing games during building
[15:35] <apachelogger> :O
[15:36]  * apachelogger is supposed to attend a games evening with some weird card game or such
[15:37] <apachelogger> Quintasan: lowlevel stack for lucid is up
[15:37] <apachelogger> preparing oxygen right now
[15:37] <apachelogger> feel free to go ahead with the other stuff you see ready for backport
[15:41]  * apachelogger is wondering why we have no lucid branches really
[15:41] <apachelogger> would make things so much easier
[15:42] <apachelogger> come to think of it
[15:42] <apachelogger> pkg-kde-tools actually needs resyncing with upstream
[15:42] <apachelogger> ....
[15:43] <CIA-98> [kde-l10n-common-lucid] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731144316-l70w98mclg21b76t * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog control rules) (log message trimmed)
[15:43] <CIA-98> * Lucid backport. * Depend on libkdecore5 rather than on kdelibs5, since the
[15:43] <CIA-98> latter is transitional now * New upstream release * New upstream release *
[15:44] <CIA-98> [kde-l10n-common-lucid] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100731144433-nmm5i7bjebiir3w9 * debian/changelog merge
[15:59] <Quintasan> FFFFFUUUU-
[15:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: why on earth list-missing lists all dev headers?
[16:01] <Quintasan> oh wait
[16:02] <Quintasan> aren't those commented out in control?
[16:02] <Quintasan> nope they are not
[16:04] <Quintasan> okay I need to cool down
[16:04] <Quintasan> I rushed kdeutils too much
[16:25] <apachelogger> I told you so...
[16:25] <apachelogger> oh!
[16:25] <apachelogger> kde-l10n-common needs a switch to turn off desktop file imports
[16:28] <apachelogger> Nightrose: the release script cannot do git tagging because it was not supported on gitorious
[16:29] <apachelogger> also
[16:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: when can we meet again?
[16:30]  * apachelogger feels incomplete :(
[16:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: uploading kdedu
[16:31] <shadeslayer> *kdeedu
[16:31] <shadeslayer> i hope all other deps are in place
[16:31] <apachelogger> you hope?
[16:31] <apachelogger> Oo
[16:31] <apachelogger> that is the wrong attitude my dear friend
[16:32] <shadeslayer> ok checking :D
[16:32] <shadeslayer> yeah theyre there
[16:34] <shadeslayer> this will take time
[16:52] <apachelogger> oh a new version of mint is out
[16:52] <apachelogger> yay
[16:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is that good for kubuntu>
[16:58] <apachelogger> well they are downstream to us...
[16:58] <apachelogger> OTOH our downstream is not very communicative I feel :S
[16:59] <shadeslayer> wow.. kubuntu is upstream for mint? .. amazing
[16:59] <shadeslayer> edu uploaded
[17:01] <shadeslayer> afk for a while
[17:04] <Nightrose> apachelogger: *huggles*
[17:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: that does not answer my question ;)
[17:07] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i no :/
[17:30] <apachelogger> aha!
[17:30] <apachelogger> oho!
[17:30] <apachelogger> uha!
[17:30] <apachelogger> !info akonadi maverick
[17:30] <apachelogger> !info akonadi-server maverick
[17:30] <apachelogger> oha!
[17:31] <apachelogger> any taked on updating that to 1.4?
[17:31] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I am pondering coming to the release party in stuttgart
[17:31] <apachelogger> then again I think someone annnounced to come visit graz that weekend *shrug*
[17:41] <abhijit> hello
[17:41] <abhijit> :)
[17:41] <apachelogger> Quintasan: kde-l10n for ludicrous lullaby is ready...
[17:42] <shadeslayer> abhijit: hey :D
[17:42] <abhijit> shadeslayer, :)
[17:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i think kdeedu is done
[17:58] <shadeslayer> building that is
[18:07] <Quintasan> well
[18:07] <Quintasan> Great
[18:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I'm testing maverick upgrade
[18:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: thanks, retrying kdeplasma-addons
[18:08]  * Quintasan goes powernap
[18:08] <Quintasan> and moar lucid packaging
[18:09]  * apachelogger should have been out the door half an hour ago
[18:09] <apachelogger> rightly, someone continue doing lucid backports...
[18:25] <yofel> hm, how does sound work now in maverick? my default phonon is set like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/fie8Ryx.html and I have no sound until I move 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo' to the top (that's pulse?)
[18:25] <yofel> s/my/by/
[18:26] <shadeslayer> yofel: i have http://imgur.com/uRvLN in maverick
[18:27] <yofel> yeah, which is ok, but I have a hdmi port in my thinkpad which isn't only for video obviously, and for some reason that's the preferred output..
[18:28] <yofel> (dummy comes from my last session where I played around with the settings and ended up with only dummy output available I guess)
[18:28] <shadeslayer> i would guess the HDMI out does audio too
[18:28] <shadeslayer> i think thats the latest feature in HDMI ports
[18:29] <yofel> it does, hdmi is audio and video, that doesn't help me though as my phonon ignores my notebook speakers by default which isn't really nice
[18:29] <yofel> esp. since I don't have anything connected to the hdmi port
[19:19]  * Quintasan had pizza right away after his power nap
[19:19] <Quintasan> awesome
[19:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you were asking about soprano or akonadi before?
[20:32] <crimsun> apachelogger: what did you need? I have nothing in my backscroll, sorry.
[20:33] <Nightrose> apachelogger: \o/ yes! co0me to stuttgart
[20:41] <maco> ugghhhh something nasty is going on with plasma netbook in the beta ppa
[20:41] <maco> the 4.5 rc
[20:42] <maco> a mysterious white window keeps coming up.  its just blank..dont know where it comes from. it shows up and disappears repeatedly if i view window list....has no title, and my attempts at xprop'ing it failed since it just kinda disappears and i get the xprop data of the window behind :-/
[20:43] <maco> accessing the panel makes it show up, and then trying to go back to what im doing...my screen just flashes back and forth between the window im on and solid white over and over
[20:44] <maco> and my google-fu is failing me
[20:45] <shadeslayer> maco: just in case.. is rekonq/browser running at that time with flash ?
[20:45] <maco> firefox is running but i dont think there's any flash stuff
[20:45] <shadeslayer> hmm.. well its genrally flash+browser here
[20:45] <maco> can try killing firefox
[20:46] <maco> wahhh immediately after killing firefox it went strobe-light on me
[20:46] <crimsun> that's a Feature.
[20:46] <maco> the white window is still there
[20:46] <crimsun> that, too, is a Feature.
[20:47] <maco> i tried closing it before, and it crashed plasma netbook
[20:47] <maco> crimsun: you have an odd definition of feature
[20:47] <crimsun> not just "feature". "Feature".
[20:47] <maco> crimsun: oh youre speaking in ScottKisms?
[20:48] <crimsun> are you implying scott is older than the OED?
[20:48] <maco> im referring to his usage of it
[20:48] <maco> if i try to alt+tab to search&launch, that also starts it going. i have to access that screen through the panel
[20:55] <maco> ok i *think* its gone. after changing settings to use a clean session each login, its not here right now.. will see how long that lasts
[20:55] <maco> now, battery out so bye
[21:06] <neversfelde> shtylman: ping
[21:07] <shtylman> neversfelde: pong
[21:07] <neversfelde> shtylman: hi, you created the new kubuntu logo, right?
[21:07] <shtylman> neversfelde: I think thats the story we are going with :)
[21:08] <neversfelde> shtylman: we need a new logo for kubuntu-de.org, too. How hard is it to add a -de.org to it? And how can I do this?
[21:09] <shtylman> you want the whole thing to say kubuntu-do.org (circle) ?
[21:10] <shtylman> neversfelde: now that the ubuntu font is in beta, should be very easy, just get the font and make the text
[21:10] <shtylman> neversfelde: I didn't make the text part anyway
[21:10] <shtylman> but it is just written using the new font iirc
[21:13] <neversfelde> shtylman: so, simply open it in an application like inkscape and add some letters? I will try it, thanks
[21:13] <shtylman> neversfelde: the current svg probly wasn't made like that.. but yes.. just use inkscape to get the circle logo and type out kubuntu-de.org in the new font
[21:13] <shtylman> should be just fine
[21:24] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dont you test build? :P