[04:09] <tenach> Hello.  I've started importing my project code from git and it does not link them to me under "Recent revisions".  It is linking to the other contributor, though.
[04:09] <wgrant> tenach: Which branch is this?
[04:09] <tenach> The main branch for my project, scrib.
[04:11] <wgrant> tenach: Have you recently added that email address to your Launchpad account? If you have, it may take up to 24 hours for the revisions to be linked.
[04:11] <tenach> Ah, that would probably explain it.  I added it maybe an hour ago.
[04:12] <tenach> wgrant, Thank you. I am still learning how to use launchpad.
[04:12] <wgrant> tenach: Once the daily cron job runs, all existing revision will be fixed up, and all future ones will be linked immediately.
[04:13] <tenach> That is pretty cool.
[07:08] <nigelb> someone says LP timesout when trying to file a bug
[07:08] <nigelb> known issue?
[07:12] <doctormo> nigelb: It happens sometimes, launchpad is one of those odd services with weird errors sometimes.
[07:12] <doctormo> nigelb: Did it report an oops-id?
[07:14] <nigelb> doctormo: dunno..  I was helping somone file a bug
[07:15] <wgrant> There's been a lot of work done in that area in the last couple of weeks.
[07:15] <doctormo> nigelb: Ah ok, when launchpad produces an error it should give an oops id which can be given to the devels here.
[07:15] <wgrant> I'm not sure how much of the fix is on edge, though.
[07:16] <nigelb> I'm not sure if this was on edge or not though
[07:16] <wgrant> Try to get an OOPS ID.
[07:16] <nigelb> maybe I should just ask her to do a -noredirect
[07:17] <wgrant> noredirect will be even worse.
[07:18] <nigelb> no I meant for filing a bug directly without using apport
[07:56] <FullFlannelJacke> Why is stuff taking so long to build on Launchpad?  I've got a package thats been waiting 40+ hours
[07:57] <nigelb> because there are a lot of builds scheduled?
[07:58] <wgrant> And Ubuntu Maverick Alpha 3 testing has taken some of the builders.
[08:06] <lifeless> I wonder if that hits us twice
[08:06] <doctormo> wgrant: How hard is it to set up your own ppa/builder and such on your own server?
[08:07] <wgrant> doctormo: Not impossible.
[08:08] <doctormo> wgrant: Ah, it's like that. Like time travel, but possibly harder.
[08:08] <wgrant> Heh.
[08:09] <wgrant> Well, I worked it out a year ago and documented it, so it's no longer terribly hard.
[08:09] <doctormo> wgrant: Something that could be packaged/scripted for easy setup on ubuntu servers?
[08:09] <wgrant> No.
[08:10] <wgrant> It's not thaaat easy.
[08:10] <doctormo> wgrant: Surely there is something automatable about the process? I thought computers were meant to do all my work without me even asking!
[08:11] <wgrant> LP just isn't easily forceable into a package like that.
[08:11] <wgrant> Yet.
[08:11] <doctormo> wgrant: Oh I didn't mean the entire of launchpad, just the building and posting of a ppa for example.
[08:12] <wgrant> At the moment that means you need Launchpad in its entirety.
[08:13] <doctormo> wgrant: There is something about that requirement which reduces my confidence in the launchpad codebase. Shoudn't modularity be the watchword of any modern programmer?
[08:13] <doctormo> Although then again, zope did it.
[08:14] <wgrant> doctormo: One would think so. Work is ongoing to split it up, for reasons somewhat similar to your request.
[08:15] <lifeless> also you have to rebrand it
[08:15] <lifeless> but you could do that once
[08:15] <lifeless> LP is modular in some ways
[08:16] <wgrant> And really not modular in most of the others.
[08:16] <lifeless> but there's still a dependency chain on services
[08:16] <lifeless> e.g. PPA wants to know about users/groups, about CoC signing as external interfaces
[08:17] <lifeless> wgrant: given LP's /job/ is to integrate things horizontally, to join-the-dots, I think one needs to things carefully about what modularity really means for it
[08:18] <wgrant> lifeless: LP's job is, yes.
[08:18] <wgrant> Vostok's probably isn't.
[08:19] <lifeless> vostok doesn't know what vostoks job is
[08:19] <wgrant> No.
[08:19] <doctormo> lifeless: That depends, trust signing and all that could probably have been done better as an interface that a dep.
[08:20] <lifeless> doctormo: it is, a required interface is a dep
[08:23] <doctormo> other things could implement the same interface.
[08:23] <lifeless> thats true
[08:23] <lifeless> however
[08:23] <lifeless> the integration point for the interface is currently 'in the same database'
[08:23] <lifeless> changing that without creating a huge mess is, I suspect, a fair chunk of work
[08:26] <lifeless> I'd like us to do that eventually, because of the scaling and robustness properties it brings, if nothing else.
[09:30] <JoshBrown> Is it possible to put a branch on multiple sites, allowing people to make commits using different version control systems?
[09:31] <JoshBrown> (e.g. GitHub+git, Launchpad+bzr, SourceForge+svn, etc)
[09:41] <nigelb> all the best with that
[09:41] <nigelb> it sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen
[09:42] <nigelb> (personal opinion only)
[09:43] <jpds> I agree with nigelb, sounds chaotic.
[09:47] <JoshBrown> Okay, I'll give it up - to be honest, I didn't hold much hope anyway.
[11:42] <d34df00d> Hi!
[11:42] <d34df00d> I've got a small question regarding translations in Launchpad.
[11:43] <d34df00d> When I upload a new version of .po file which contains new strings for translation as well (and some of them are translated already via other means than Launchpad), they are only marked as suggestions.
[11:43] <d34df00d> I upload them to my own project, so I have full permissions for it.
[11:43] <d34df00d> How could I make them be used by default, whithout clicking through and selecting them all manually?
[14:54] <Sia-> hi
[14:55] <Sia-> can you approve my .po file wordpress for CKB.po?
[15:41] <Sorceress> i need help with getting the ubuntu cd
[15:57] <[Dmitry]> Hello. Tell me what happened to the farm Launchpad (PPA)?
[15:58] <[Dmitry]> I already wrote a second time during assembly - Start 2010-08-03
[15:58] <[Dmitry]> о_О
[15:59] <[Dmitry]> Many times I was building packages, but this place I see for the first time
[16:25] <shadeslayer> [Dmitry]: i think alot of machines are down for maintainence or something
[16:25] <shadeslayer> specially 32 bit ones
[16:25] <X3> ah
[16:26] <rockstar> shadeslayer, [Dmitry], we're seeing increased load in the builders recently.
[16:26] <shadeslayer> rockstar: err.. not many builders for 32 bit as well.. see only 4 of them
[16:27] <[Dmitry]> over 900 jobs...
[16:27] <rockstar> shadeslayer, yeah, the ubuntu team usually lets us borrow some of their builders when they aren't using them.  They're using them currently.  :)
[16:28] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[16:28] <shadeslayer> rockstar: so there are only 4 PPA builders in total ? :O
[16:29] <shadeslayer> for 32 bit builds
[16:29] <rockstar> shadeslayer, yeah, we're aware of the problem, and are getting new hardware soon.
[16:29] <shadeslayer> awesome :)
[16:29] <rockstar> shadeslayer, source package recipes (a new feature) also use the x86 builders, and they're starting to be used more.
[16:29] <shadeslayer> yeah .. i used them for a ppa :P
[16:31] <X3> hey peeps
[16:31] <X3> https://code.launchpad.net/~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk
[16:31] <X3> that trunk revision is wrong
[16:32] <X3> the svn trunk is at 32381 the code import is 24263
[16:32] <X3> that isnt right
[16:43] <thopiekar> hi.. just a short question.. is there a reason why my packages will be build in 3days for maverick? are there so much packages in the quere?
[16:43] <thopiekar> ppa:canola/playground
[16:44] <shadeslayer> thopiekar: yep too much pressure :P
[16:44] <geser> thopiekar: apparently, see https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/
[16:45] <thopiekar> wow
[16:46] <thopiekar> and another thing.. I deleted own ppa's but they are just marked as "going to be removed" for weeks, maybe a month now..
[16:46] <thopiekar> https://launchpad.net/~thopiekar
[16:47] <kklimonda> I love how chromium daily builds use over a half of builders right now :/
[16:49] <thopiekar> kklimonda: can't they just remove "outdated" builds that are in the quere?
[16:50] <thopiekar> and: is there a way to add builders?
[16:50] <thopiekar> maybe add a chroot on my machine and help out?
[16:50] <thopiekar> just a offer :P
[16:52] <shadeslayer> thopiekar: i dont think thats possible ( wrt helping out :P )
[16:53] <thopiekar> ;)
[16:54] <thopiekar> in my case there are lot of arch independent packages can't you switch to use a x64 builder for that?
[16:56] <thopiekar> or armel? there are no jobs, at the moment..
[16:57]  * [Dmitry] While the launchpad busy, had gone build packages to https://build.opensuse.org
[19:15] <sebi_`> Hi, how would I remove a registered project (that has been registered by me)?
[19:21] <sebi_`> looks like removing all the data, branches, owners etc already takes care of that. I'm still open for help, though.
[20:06] <ion> This is most likely a known issue, but https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick timeouts for me. Error ID: OOPS-1673EC3932
[20:09] <shadeslayer> ion: seems to work for me
[20:10] <ion> Works now for me, too.
[20:36] <alkisg> Hi, just out of curiosity, I uploaded something to my ppa and the i386 build is starting at ...4 days! Why are the servers so much loaded? PartnerUploadDeadline?
[20:42] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: I already asked this question today.
[20:42] <alkisg> And? Did you get any answers?
[20:43] <Cepheus> alkisg: Possibly, or a batch of updates.
[20:43] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: Alternatively, you can go drink beer with friends:)
[20:43] <alkisg> That sounds like a good plan... 4 days of beers should be fine :P
[20:43] <[Dmitry]> :D
[20:43] <alkisg> Thanks [Dmitry] :)
[20:43] <[Dmitry]> np )
[20:45] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: In fact, I was told that it will soon add a server. And sometimes canonical provide servers for building. But they are now engaged
[20:46] <alkisg> https://launchpad.net/builders/ ==> i386          4 builders                                      819       jobs               (three days)
[20:46] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: So the best plan, that go to drink beer:)
[20:46] <alkisg> I wonder if they could easily move some of the 7 amd64 builders to become i386 builders
[20:47] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: When I sent the package, there were more than 950 tasks, so it's unloaded:)
[20:48] <alkisg> Phew, ok, because I wouldn't have enough money for beer while waiting for 950 tasks... with 819 I think I can manage :P
[20:48] <[Dmitry]> haha )
[20:49] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: my scor is 2505
[20:50] <[Dmitry]> score*
[20:50] <alkisg> Woah
[20:50] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: And you have how many?
[20:51] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: https://launchpad.net/~itmages/+archive/software/+build/1898891 :)
[20:52] <alkisg> The same, 2505 - what's that? https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/proposed/+build/1898731
[20:52] <alkisg> Is it possible that we both have the same number of jobs ahead of us?
[20:52] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores :)
[20:52] <alkisg> Ah, got it
[20:53] <alkisg> So if we packaged it as "emergency", we'd get down to 2490
[20:54] <[Dmitry]> alkisg: Points can be improved slightly honest way, for example in changelog to indicate urgency= > low
[20:54] <[Dmitry]> :)
[20:54] <[Dmitry]> But I do not, I have nowhere to hurry:)
[20:55] <alkisg> Me neither, that's why I was just asking out of curiosity :)
[21:22] <shadeslayer> private ppa++ :P
[21:22] <[Dmitry]> cost?
[21:23] <shadeslayer> [Dmitry]: idk.. i have access to a team private ppa
[21:23] <shadeslayer> probably free for the team as well :)
[21:23] <shadeslayer> because we use it to test KDE packages for kubuntu
[21:43] <doctormo> shadeslayer: How do private ppas work?
[21:49] <[Dmitry]> $$$ :)
[21:50] <shadeslayer> doctormo: well the only difference is that, only specific people are granted access
[21:50] <shadeslayer> and that builds get a score of 12505
[21:51] <doctormo> I wonder why that number
[21:51] <shadeslayer> and you need apt-transport-https to access builds from that ppa
[21:51] <shadeslayer> doctormo: 10000 + 2505
[21:51] <shadeslayer> 2505 is the usual score for ppa's
[21:53] <shadeslayer> and thats about it :P
[21:53] <shadeslayer> oh and you get 10 GB of space
[21:53] <doctormo> shadeslayer: Limited by group access?
[21:53] <shadeslayer> instead of 2GB
[21:54] <shadeslayer> doctormo: yes.. only the team admins can allow access
[21:54] <doctormo> shadeslayer: I mean, can the tam admins allow access to another team?
[21:55] <shadeslayer> doctormo: ah.. i would guess so
[21:55] <shadeslayer> for eg. when i was granted access to the private ppa, i also go upload rights to other kubuntu ppa's
[21:56] <shadeslayer> so probably yes
[22:03] <shadeslayer> hmm ive forgotten how to create a custom dput entry :S
[22:03] <shadeslayer> whats the ppa name for : ppa:foo/ppa
[22:04] <shadeslayer> foo? foo/ppa? whut?
[22:06] <crimsun> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net\nmethod = sftp\nincoming = ~foo/ppa/ubuntu\nlogin = you
[22:13] <wgrant> shadeslayer: Why are you creating a custom dput entry? There's one built-in to Ubuntu.
[22:13] <shadeslayer> wgrant: no for a PPA :P
[22:14] <shadeslayer> i have access to mutiple ppa's... i want to upload a package to one of them
[22:15] <wgrant> shadeslayer: In the last few Ubuntu releases, just 'dput ppa:username/ppaname something.changes'
[22:15] <wgrant> It's builtin.
[22:15] <shadeslayer> :o
[22:15] <shadeslayer> wgrant: im on maverick so will test that
[22:15] <shadeslayer> which is prett awesome
[22:15] <shadeslayer> *pretty
[22:15] <wgrant> It's been that way for several releases. that's why the PPA page to says to do it that way...
[22:16] <shadeslayer> ive never noticed.. i always do it the .dput.cf way :p
[22:17] <shadeslayer> but since it was a long time since i added a entry to dput.cf ive forgotten :)
[22:21] <shadeslayer> oh my...
[22:25] <doctormo> shadeslayer: Oh my yes
[22:25] <wgrant> Oh my?
[22:25] <shadeslayer> doctormo: apparently my cowbuilder has only /etc :P
[22:27] <doctormo> shadeslayer: Don't have a cow?
[22:27] <doctormo> Bad news that
[22:27] <shadeslayer> doctormo: fresh maverick install :P
[22:27] <shadeslayer> downloading kdegames 4.5 to package :P
[22:27] <doctormo> shadeslayer: Ah, maverick is going all sleek and modern by just having an etc directory?
[22:28] <shadeslayer> hehe
[23:02] <c_korn> hello. are the i386 PPA builders shut down or busy ? normally I see an estimated start time if a build has been queued: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa/+build/1897834
[23:02] <[Dmitry]> Haha
[23:02] <[Dmitry]> hot topic :D
[23:03] <c_korn> I have read the topic. it was not mentioned. so cannot be that hot :)
[23:03] <[Dmitry]> c_korn: read http://paste.ubuntu.com/471622/
[23:07] <c_korn> [Dmitry]: thanks. so the builders are just busy.
[23:07] <[Dmitry]> very busy
[23:08] <c_korn> problem is that in my vlc PPA the amd64 packages are already built. and they depend on arch independent packages which will get there with the i386 build. so updating currently fails…
[23:09] <wgrant> The builders are busy, mostly because lots of them have been taken for maverick alpha 3 testing.