| joe_2010 | Hello all! | 00:44 |
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| joe_2010 | Will the BtrFS be supported soon on the/all of Ubuntu's distros, more or less soon!? | 00:45 |
| Daekdroom | joe_2010, support is on its way into 10.10. | 00:48 |
| joe_2010 | Ah, I see... Ok, thanks! | 00:49 |
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| cjae | anyone here a kde user if so running kde 4.5 without hitch? | 05:39 |
| cjae | 4.5 rc2 | 05:40 |
| cjae | is there a kubuntu+1? | 05:42 |
| cjae_ | anyone usng kde4.5rc2? | 06:06 |
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| sinurge | hi, big issue, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a freeze post nw time sync | 07:57 |
| sinurge | repeat, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a freeze post nw time sync | 08:10 |
| pawan | hi | 08:45 |
| pawan | whats up | 08:45 |
| pawan | pawan here | 08:45 |
| alakhia | i don't have sound with kubuntu maverick ... how can I troubleshoot please? | 08:48 |
| KE1HA | Does anyone know if the 10.10 RC's have fixed the Intel I855 Black Screen Issues ? | 09:44 |
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| sinurge | need lucid support anyone there? | 11:31 |
| sinurge | sorry maverick support | 11:31 |
| yofel | wth, monospace suddenly looks really squashed here o.O | 11:32 |
| yofel | !anyone | 11:32 |
| ubottu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 11:32 |
| sinurge | got maverick alpha2, on booting i dont get ahead of sysn netwok time | 11:33 |
| sinurge | i did f6 when the cd was booking and got the options screen, then selected try ubuntu (live desktop) with options pci=nomsi it goes ahead with the dots blinking but nothing happnens | 11:34 |
| sinurge | yofel: anychance you can help? | 11:35 |
| yofel | well, don't think so, but did you see if X started on another vt? (8 maybe) how long did you wait? (and wth does nomsi mean?) | 11:36 |
| sinurge | i waiting for about 10 minutes, cd blinking was all very standard and the hdd indicator was on | 11:38 |
| sinurge | pci=nomsi is a kernal boot line that i have to put to boot ubuntu on both jaunty and lucid installations on the computer | 11:39 |
| sinurge | otherwise i never get to the login prompt | 11:39 |
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| aboSamoor | Hi, I pulled the latest unity version, but still away from this screenshot http://dl.dropbox.com/u/217582/Files%20Shared%20from%20GNOME%20Do/unity_dash01-1951205588.jpg ? | 12:34 |
| ikonia | aboSamoor: what are you actually asking ? | 12:36 |
| Euthanatos | projectM 2.0 has been out for over a year now will 10.10 include it or is there a reason it wasn't bothered with in lucid? | 12:37 |
| aboSamoor | ikonia, how can i get that version of unity ? | 12:37 |
| ikonia | Euthanatos: maybe no-ones packaged it, it's that simple | 12:37 |
| ikonia | aboSamoor: what version is it ? | 12:37 |
| ikonia | Euthanatos: log a feature request on luanchpad | 12:37 |
| aboSamoor | ikonia, i do not know | 12:37 |
| ikonia | launchpad even | 12:37 |
| ikonia | aboSamoor: ok....so how you know you have the wrong version ? | 12:38 |
| aboSamoor | I do not have wrong one, but I am trying to find the one in the screenshot | 12:39 |
| ikonia | aboSamoor: so if you don't have the wrong one....you have the right one, so what's the problem | 12:40 |
| aboSamoor | ikonia, it does not look like the screenshot | 12:40 |
| Euthanatos | I'm wondering if it might have something to do with this: "If you would like to use the new Milkdrop 2.0 support, remember to install the Nvidia Cg toolkit, enable USE_CG during compilation, and install the Milkdrop 2.0 presets." - from sourceforge projectM updates page | 12:40 |
| ikonia | aboSamoor: ok, so contact the person who's screen shot it is, and ask them what theme they are using | 12:40 |
| ikonia | Euthanatos: doubtful | 12:40 |
| Euthanatos | ok thanks | 12:41 |
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| shadeslayer | anyone around to help me with nvidia-current? | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | !nvidia | 14:14 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | aha^ | 14:15 |
| om26er | with compiz, changing theme does not change window border | 14:32 |
| om26er | anyone know where the bug is. or maybe the bug number ;) | 14:33 |
| rye | Is it only me or Ambiance theme buttons look like they are missing the texture and task bar buttons are extremely light in Maverick? Is this a theme issue? | 14:42 |
| knittl | hi. is libept0 save to remove or should i wait until the dependency conflict resolves itself? | 16:07 |
| yofel | knittl: libept0 should be safe to remove as libept1 should be used now | 16:27 |
| knittl | yofel: ok great. thx | 16:28 |
| alakhia | i don't have sound with kubuntu maverick ... how can I troubleshoot please? | 16:36 |
| alakhia | under mixer, i see 2 devices: radeon x1200 (hdmi) and internal audio | 16:38 |
| alakhia | both are unmuted | 16:38 |
| alakhia | yet, no sound | 16:38 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: You could try lsof /dev/snd/* as root to see if anything has the devices open | 16:41 |
| alakhia | i see 4 entries .... all of them by pulseaudio | 16:42 |
| penguin42 | oh ok, I didn't realise KDE used pa | 16:43 |
| alakhia | ok, what next? is the sound going to HDMI? That wouldn't work since I don't have any hdmi device connected | 16:44 |
| penguin42 | what does pactl stat say? | 16:44 |
| penguin42 | in particular the Default sink | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | where would the default args for passing to chromium be stored btw? | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | there was a file afaik | 16:45 |
| alakhia | Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo | 16:45 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: And what does lspci show as device 00:14 ? | 16:46 |
| penguin42 | shadeslayer: /etc/chromium-browser/default | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | penguin42: thanks | 16:46 |
| alakhia | 00:14 has 5 sub entries from .0 to .4 | 16:47 |
| penguin42 | what's number 2 ? | 16:47 |
| alakhia | 14.2 is Audio device: ATI Technologoes Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) | 16:47 |
| penguin42 | and what does 14.0 show? | 16:48 |
| alakhia | PCI bridge: ATI Tech Device 7914 | 16:48 |
| yofel | alakhia: did you try to move 'Internal Audio' to the top of the list in the KDE multimedia settings? | 16:48 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: OK, so that's likely the internal audio is the default sink; so at least PA thinks it is using the internal | 16:49 |
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| alakhia | in multimedia settings, clicking test on internal works | 16:50 |
| alakhia | :) | 16:50 |
| alakhia | i'll move it up and see | 16:50 |
| alakhia | still can't hear audio from firefox youtube | 16:53 |
| yofel | hm, works here though | 16:53 |
| alakhia | let me try a local audio file | 16:55 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: Try opening a shell and doing pasuspender /bin/cat now leave that there, and try and open a new youtube page | 16:55 |
| yofel | here the hdmi sink was preferred too and I had no sound, I set the default to prefer Internal audio (PA I guess) and now it works | 16:55 |
| alakhia | local audio via vlc doesn't work | 16:59 |
| alakhia | nothing shows up pasuspender either | 17:00 |
| yofel | hm, didn't try vlc, let's see | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: ok, close that pasuspender with ctrl-d other wise it will confuse you more | 17:00 |
| yofel | alakhia: can you check in the vlc audio settings if it's using pulseaudio for output? | 17:00 |
| yofel | 'Default' should work too (at least it does here) | 17:01 |
| alakhia | vlc shows 'Default' | 17:03 |
| yofel | hm... can you set internal audio as the preferred output for all phonon catergories maybe? | 17:05 |
| penguin42 | alakhia: Can you get the output of pactl list tto a pastebin | 17:05 |
| yofel | penguin42: I doubt that the problem is on the PA side, esp. since he said that pressint 'Test' works | 17:06 |
| yofel | *pressing | 17:06 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Ah good point, I was wondering about something as simple as what volume it thinks it is | 17:08 |
| alakhia | sorry ... battery died | 17:13 |
| alakhia | booted back up and now kde's audio settings are back where internal audio is 2nd | 17:15 |
| gnomefreak | anyone else having issues updating packages? update works great but trying to download all fails | 17:42 |
| gnomefreak | at least the official repos. trying a different mirror | 17:42 |
| gnomefreak | it was the mirror | 17:43 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: Yeh I had a problem before; got a complaint about keys (invalid key? or something?) and a package failed to install - but it seems to be OK now | 17:43 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: 404 Not Found [IP: 212.219.56.135 80] using the gb.archive.... mirrors | 17:44 |
| penguin42 | oh didn't get that | 17:44 |
| IdleOne | testing now | 17:44 |
| IdleOne | it is very slow | 17:44 |
| gnomefreak | dropping the gb. from repos worked | 17:44 |
| IdleOne | but I also have a download going | 17:44 |
| gnomefreak | i pinged it and only got 7% loss | 17:45 |
| IdleOne | seems to be dowloading the packages fine, slow for sure but is working here | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | mine wasnt too much slower than normal | 17:47 |
| IdleOne | like I said the speed is expected due to my download but don't have any issues | 17:47 |
| gnomefreak | i know apt is a problem seems its a depends issue | 17:47 |
| gnomefreak | hmmm maybe not | 17:48 |
| gnomefreak | dropping libept0 but it is going to install libept1. but i will test it here | 17:49 |
| IdleOne | 17 updates installed without problem | 17:49 |
| gnomefreak | next is sound issue :( | 17:49 |
| IdleOne | sorry gnomefreak can't confirm | 17:49 |
| gnomefreak | IdleOne: it removed libept0 but installed libept1 | 17:50 |
| gnomefreak | renaming package was issue | 17:50 |
| IdleOne | hmm 7 packages were not installed, yup it wants to remove libept0 | 17:50 |
| gnomefreak | its good to remove | 17:51 |
| IdleOne | removing it. | 17:51 |
| IdleOne | will see what happens | 17:51 |
| IdleOne | The following packages will be upgraded: | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | apt apt-transport-https apt-utils aptitude libept1 python-apt synaptic | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | it was replaced by libept1 | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | yup | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | same package new version | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | no errors | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | so still good to go | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | can anyone confirm bug 455420? | 17:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 455420 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Sound is muted at log-in" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455420 | 17:54 |
| gnomefreak | why was there supposed to be a key change | 17:55 |
| gnomefreak | gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" not changed | 17:56 |
| gnomefreak | there are 2 | 17:56 |
| IdleOne | same here | 17:56 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: I was having the mute at login but it seems to have stopped for the last week or so | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | not sure why but I assume if they were unchanged it is because they didn't change | 17:57 |
| gnomefreak | i still cant get rid of it. clean install and clean upgrade it still happens | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | I have been having an issue booting to gui with the past 4-5 kernels. I have to login to text mode then startx | 17:59 |
| penguin42 | have't seen that; I still have to change the set gfxmode= | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | besides that no issues | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | I get a black screen otherwise | 18:00 |
| gnomefreak | i saw that once or twice but has cleared up. but i wasnt able to get into a TTY at all when it happened | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | IdleOne: Which card? | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) | 18:01 |
| gnomefreak | nvidia 6200 here | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | Radeon here | 18:02 |
| alakhia_ | i have sound now ... thanks penguin42 and yofel | 18:16 |
| penguin42 | alakhia_: How did you fix it? | 18:17 |
| alakhia_ | it was having to set the phonon settings in kde | 18:17 |
| alakhia_ | set analog as the preferred device and now it seems to have taken it | 18:17 |
| alakhia_ | thanks for all the help both of you | 18:18 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 18:18 |
| yofel | wth.. | 18:51 |
| penguin42 | ? | 18:51 |
| yofel | the screen on my notebook just froze except that I can still move the mouse | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | I've seen X crashes like that before and never understood them | 18:52 |
| yofel | the last thing in .xsession-errors (fetched over ssh) is | 18:52 |
| yofel | *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: NPN_InvalidateRect() invoke: Message timeout | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | it's difficult to know if that was a symptom or cause though | 18:53 |
| yofel | well, it did happen after clicking on a picture in firefox, but that has nothing to do with that thing... | 18:53 |
| yofel | symptom I guess | 18:53 |
| yofel | oh GREAT | 18:54 |
| yofel | my stupid 'swap everything in memory out after waking up from suspend' is back on my eeePC -.- | 18:54 |
| * gnomefreak guessing you are on 64bit and nspluginwrapper crashed | 18:55 | |
| gnomefreak | not sure why the screen going blank | 18:55 |
| penguin42 | but nspluginwrapper crashes don't normally take out the whole of X | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | i know | 18:55 |
| yofel | why the hell is it swapping? http://paste.ubuntu.com/471547/ I have swappiness set to 0 btw.. | 18:57 |
| penguin42 | well something is using lots of RAM | 18:57 |
| penguin42 | you're 820M into swap so it's not a tiny thing either | 18:58 |
| yofel | well, I have 1GiB of memory free.. | 18:59 |
| yofel | and before I suspended I had no swap usage at all | 18:59 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Well you do then; you didn't at some point | 18:59 |
| yofel | hm, running strace on the frozen X give me http://paste.ubuntu.com/471547/ o.O | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | that's your free | 19:01 |
| yofel | eek | 19:01 |
| yofel | http://paste.ubuntu.com/471551/ | 19:01 |
| yofel | like 100 lines per second and no output except for that | 19:03 |
| yofel | well, except if I move the mouse or press something on the keyboard, so it's not completely frozen | 19:03 |
| yofel | ah, seems like kwin froze solid | 19:04 |
| yofel | restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted call ...> | 19:04 |
| penguin42 | yofel: If it happens again I would be tempted to gdb attach to X (from a text terminal) and get a backtrace | 19:07 |
| yofel | well, I still have the freeze open (I'm on my netbook now) | 19:07 |
| yofel | let's try gdb | 19:07 |
| yofel | well, that gives me a trace from within nvidia -.- | 19:09 |
| yofel | ah well, I'll just kill it | 19:09 |
| LucidFox | Is there a way to remove that blue indicator with a spready-arms person from the panel? | 19:47 |
| penguin42 | doesn't actually have that on either of his machines; so I'll answer yes without knowing any more on the basis that it's gone from mine | 19:48 |
| crimsun | DanaG: what do you need WRT pulse? (from earlier in the week) | 20:30 |
| penguin42 | crimsun: Do you generally care about moans in /var/log/user.log if everything is actually apparently working ok? | 20:38 |
| crimsun | penguin42: yes, but they may not be muzzled | 20:39 |
| crimsun | are the moans the sort of asyncq.c or the sort of alsa-util.c? | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | crimsun: I've got one of the oldee 'ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write!' (alsa-sink.c), followed by a 'Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel' followed by a 'We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value < min_avail.' and then I've got abunch of ratelimit.c 'events suppressed' entries every so often | 20:40 |
| crimsun | penguin42: hmm, anything even slightly correlated to the ratelimit.c warnings? | 20:41 |
| crimsun | stuttering, popping, etc. | 20:41 |
| penguin42 | crimsun: No | 20:41 |
| crimsun | still a bug in alsa-driver, regardless :/ | 20:42 |
| penguin42 | crimsun: They are pulseaudio[2011]: ratelimit.c: 955 events suppressed ; I've got one at 18:13 (955 events), one at 18:35 with 904, one at 773 at 19:38 and one at 20:23 with 703 events | 20:42 |
| penguin42 | I've been listening to ogg's via Exaile and watching some flash videos on and off over that time | 20:43 |
| crimsun | I'd report it still. | 20:43 |
| penguin42 | one report for all of that ? | 20:44 |
| penguin42 | I'm subscribed to bug 320875 which is pretty ancient | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 320875 in ALSA driver "pulseaudio produces lots of log messages" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320875 | 20:45 |
| crimsun | penguin42: your hda controller and codec have to match the reporter's precisely | 20:46 |
| crimsun | otherwise you really need to file a separate bug report | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | what package should I file it against? pa? linux? One of the alsa ones? | 20:47 |
| crimsun | ubuntu-bug alsa-base | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | ok | 20:48 |
| crimsun | it's an alsa-driver Feature | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | crimsun: Bug 612122 | 20:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 612122 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write (and related VIA VT1708S on Intel Corp 5 series/3400 builtin chipset)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612122 | 20:52 |
| penguin42 | (At least I assume it's moaning about the hda I'm using and not the hdmi one that isn't used) | 20:53 |
| crimsun | thanks | 20:54 |
| duffydack | This isnt a snipe at anyone but I think the 'controls' in the new volume applet need to be smaller and more refined.. maybe they arent a permanent fixture anyway but I`m just adding my 2p worth. | 21:04 |
| crimsun | duffydack: please file a bug for that, then. | 21:04 |
| stukad | whats the difference with 10.10 alpha 1, alpha 2 and the daily build found at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ? | 21:05 |
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| vershan | how do i upgrade to 10.10 alpha 2 | 21:05 |
| penguin42 | vershan: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha2 | 21:06 |
| coz_ | vershan, sudo update-manager -d | 21:06 |
| vershan | yeah ive done that and have alpha 1 | 21:07 |
| vershan | how do i upgrade to alpha 2 | 21:07 |
| coz_ | vershan, if that didnt do it then something is up...is alpha 2 out already? | 21:07 |
| vershan | yeah | 21:07 |
| coz_ | vershan, then that should have updated it | 21:07 |
| coz_ | vershan, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 21:07 |
| yofel | !final | 21:08 |
| ubottu | If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Lucid Lynx. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. | 21:08 |
| yofel | er.. that needs fixing.. | 21:08 |
| yofel | jussi: ^ | 21:08 |
| stukad | whats the difference between alpha 2 and the daily build found at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ? | 21:08 |
| vershan | thanks ill check guys | 21:08 |
| yofel | stukad: aplha2 is the daily build of July 1st | 21:09 |
| stukad | and the "current" one got released today? | 21:09 |
| yofel | yes, the isos are rebuild every day (if possible) | 21:10 |
| coz_ | stukad, that doesnt necessarily mean the daily will work | 21:10 |
| yofel | so you should use the current iso, but we don't give any guarantee that it works at all | 21:10 |
| stukad | oh | 21:10 |
| coz_ | ^^ :) | 21:10 |
| stukad | are you guys on 10.10 atm? | 21:11 |
| yofel | for the alphaX snapshots we at least try to make sure that it works somewhat | 21:11 |
| Volkodav | I could not install from daily 3 days ago - alternate | 21:11 |
| yofel | stukad: yes | 21:11 |
| Volkodav | had to use alpha 2 | 21:11 |
| Volkodav | and then update | 21:11 |
| coz_ | frankly I would no install daily ...think of it as the time of experimentation between alphas :) | 21:11 |
| vershan | how to check which alpha version is in use | 21:12 |
| yofel | vershan: impossible, they're just snapshots of maverick on a specific date | 21:12 |
| vershan | ahhhhhhhhh, now i get it | 21:12 |
| yofel | vershan: so you're only running alpha2 if you installed maverick on July 1st and never installed any updates | 21:13 |
| stukad | so if i go ahead installing alpha2, would i need to burn/usb + format/reinstall to get the stable version ones it's out, or could i just grab it with dist-upgrade within alpha 2? | 21:13 |
| vershan | ok | 21:13 |
| coz_ | stukad, from alpha 2 to release you mean? | 21:13 |
| stukad | yes coz_ | 21:13 |
| yofel | stukad: just installing updates is fine, though a fresh install might be cleaner (no obsolete libs that were replaced, etc.) | 21:14 |
| penguin42 | stukad: No, it wil lupdate most stuff - there are normally a few small differences that get left around | 21:14 |
| coz_ | stukad, my opinion ...play with what you have indljcing updates until release | 21:14 |
| coz_ | including | 21:14 |
| penguin42 | stukad: If you've got alpha 1 installed you might want to remove the unclutter package | 21:14 |
| coz_ | and as mentioned ...then download final and reinstall fresh | 21:14 |
| stukad | well im at 10.4 atm. so i guess i stick with it until the final release of 10.10 | 21:16 |
| coz_ | stukad, sounds like a good idea :) | 21:16 |
| yofel | stukad: if you want to try maverick in a vm you could use testdrive, that will sync the daily iso and attempt to boot it in kvm | 21:18 |
| stukad | well im just looking forward to try out TRIM for ssd's in maverick. cba to do it with a testdrive :/ | 21:20 |
| yofel | oh, that won't work in a vm obviously ^^ - but you should wait at least until beta if it's the first time you're using a devel release | 21:22 |
| yofel | heh, just booted the live from today and got 'The installer encountered an unrecoverable error', then failsave-x, choosing to run it in low res does nothing - sudo startx from vt gets me into a session, but I get dbus errors when I try to open ubiquity, nice... | 21:33 |
| penguin42 | anyone else having problems with f-spot imports? | 23:13 |
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