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doctormoakgraner: A perl special? sounds awesome.02:08
akgranerdoctormo, http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/Powerhouse-Perl02:14
doctormoakgraner: Wonderful, thanks. BTW how has your day been.02:15
akgranerpretty good!  spent the day with some much needed family time :-)02:19
akgranerand worked on my interview with pete02:19
duanedesignakgraner: aha, thanks for the tip on the perl special.03:36
nigelbakgraner: you're interviewing pete?03:39
nigelb"Who else besides Ubuntu welcomes everyone, and tries to maintain a sane, friendly community? My favorite distribution is Debian, but no way will I ever try to be contributor" - now thats worth hearing :)04:11
doctormonigelb: who said that?04:14
nigelbCarla Schroder - http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-07-30-028-35-OS-CY-UB04:15
nigelbAlso lol @ "If I were an ace coder I would rather eat dog doo than try to become a kernel contributor. Life is too short to waste living in a flame-proof suit."04:15
duanedesignnigelb: yes my first distro was debian. Needless to say the community was less than friendly06:01
pleia2nigelb: carla is one of my heroes :)06:02
nigelbpleia2: she wrote a very sensible article06:03
pleia2"n my grumpier moments their relentlessly positive, cult-like Kumbaya-or-else approach makes me want to turn the hose on them." hehe06:04
pleia2yeah, that's the hugging everyone thing we get teased about06:04
nigelbhahaha06:06
nigelbwe should give her a group hug :p06:06
pleia2lol06:07
pleia2I helped edit her linux networking cookbook06:08
nigelbwow06:08
pleia2http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/032008/LNC_thanks.jpg06:10
pleia2:)06:10
pleia2no in-print thanks because she forgot (doh!) but this was nice06:10
nigelbwow06:11
nigelbbut really, most folks get attracted to the community in ubuntu06:12
pleia2yeah06:12
pleia2I still run a fair amount of debian to be honest, but here I am06:12
nigelbheh, I know06:12
nigelbnoone cares if you're a developer or not :)06:13
nigelbyou're still important to us... just as everyone is :)06:13
pleia2paulproteus has been nagging me to at least becoming a formal DM06:13
duanedesignthat was a good article nigelb06:14
nigelbduanedesign: yeah, of all the ones I read.  I like that best06:14
nigelbpleia2: you probably should :)06:14
duanedesigni liked jonos rebuttal on that topic but an 'outsiders' opinion probably will be taken better.06:15
duanedesignfor lack of a better way to put that :P06:15
nigelbAlso code commits are the only thing considered06:15
nigelbno one thought of patches06:15
pleia2yeah, it really is package maintainer centric06:16
pleia2and ubuntu devs are becoming DDs, which is great06:16
macoim going to get my key signed at debconf in preparation for eventual DMness06:17
nigelbyes, plenty of them.  Most people don't want to do merges like zack said :)06:17
pleia2maco: yay!06:17
nigelbmaco: didn't you get it signed at some UDS before?06:17
nigelbhaven't you rather06:17
pleia2I got my key signed by paulproteus last summer, right after he became a DD06:17
maconigelb: i dont think anyone who signed mine was a DD06:17
macopleia2: wait he counts?06:18
pleia2maco: yep!06:18
macoin that case my old key is signed by paulproteus06:18
macobut i have a new one ill need to bug him about06:18
nigelbheh06:18
duanedesigni just need *someone* to sign mine, lol06:18
nigelbI need to get my key back06:18
macoyou lost it?06:18
pleia2my key is old and small, I need to generate a new one I guess :(06:18
duanedesignnigelb: i inevitably lost my first one06:18
nigelbmaco: in my laptop which is in the shop06:19
macooh06:19
duanedesignpleia2: yes mine is small too....my key that is ;)06:19
pleia2context++06:19
nigelbduanedesign: oh that was evil :p06:19
duanedesignbut right now i dont use it a whole lot. Since i lost my first one I am hesitant to make yet another06:20
duanedesignnigelb: the operation cleansweep and papercut stickies have been pretty popular. I think it would be a good idea to keep rotating out those stickies with current community projects06:22
nigelbgood idea06:24
sensegood morning11:50
Pendulummorning sense11:51
AlanBellhi Pendulum o/11:52
doctormoMorning sense and AlanBell15:37
nigelbwooo ubuntu bangalore meet up was a sucess!15:52
nigelbWe even had a DD come in :)15:52
paultagnigelb: <315:52
paultagnigelb: congrats!15:52
paultagnigelb: do you have photos?15:52
nigelbpaultag: in the process of uploading15:52
paultagnigelb: let me know when they're online15:52
nigelbpaultag: just connected cam to laptop and nothing happened15:53
nigelb:(15:53
paultagnigelb: >:(15:53
paultagnigelb: yank it's datacard15:53
paultagnigelb: throw it in the lappy15:53
nigelbpaultag: this laptop was made before that technology was invented :p15:53
paultag>:(15:53
doctormoHey paultag15:58
paultaghey doctormo15:58
paultagdoctormo: just setting up my new domain, going back to wordpress after a 5 hour failed blog engine15:58
doctormopaultag: your own php awesomeness?15:59
paultagdoctormo: yeah, based on Whube15:59
doctormoYou code had problems or you just didn't have the resources to get it done?15:59
paultagdoctormo: and it worked, you could make a new post, edit, all that, login worked great, it was seecure and it looked great15:59
paultagdoctormo: I just did not want to spend another 5 hours today polishing it15:59
doctormoSo often the way16:00
paultagdoctormo: pushed source at http://github.com/whube/whublog16:00
paultagdoctormo: and also on lp:whube16:00
nigelb6816:02
nigelbgrr16:02
AlanBellpaultag: I wrote a blog engine once, but dropped it once spam started, I couldn't be bothered developing spam defenses for it.16:03
paultagAlanBell: yeah I was thinking of that too. I was considering a Javascript posting system16:03
paultagAlanBell: but meh, so much work.16:03
paultagAlanBell: had full markdown support, though :)16:03
AlanBellexcellent, markdown is cool16:04
doctormopaultag: thanks for sources :-)16:05
paultagdoctormo: sure, all my web stuff is AGPL :)16:05
paultagI figure, why let it die if someone else cares16:05
doctormopaultag: With your lococ hat on, I got ical feeds for loco teams in the directory.16:05
paultagdoctormo: outstanding. I remember dholbach was working on that, but it's great to hear it's working ( finally )16:06
paultagdoctormo: thanks a ton16:06
doctormoWe should be able to recommend replacing individual google calendar feeds for locos after some testing.16:06
paultagfor sure16:06
paultagdoctormo: thanks for doing that, you rock16:08
doctormopaultag: I said I'd put some time into the code :-D16:11
nigelbpaultag: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigelbabu/16:13
nigelbin the process of uploading, patience appreciated :D16:13
paultagdoctormo: :)16:15
paultagnigelb: kickass, let me know when they are all up :)16:15
nigelbpaultag: keep refreshing ;)16:16
paultagnigelb: :)16:16
nigelbpaultag: all done!16:17
nigelbpaultag: guess which one's me :p16:20
paultagnigelb: I know what you look like :P16:20
nigelbheh16:20
paultagnigelb: we are facebook friends, you nerd16:21
nigelbhahaha16:21
nigelbgood point, I forgot16:21
paultag:)16:22
nigelb\o/ http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/ubuntu-hour-in-bangalore/17:02
nigelbpaultag: ^^17:02
nigelbalso, pleia2 and maco ^17:02
paultagohai17:03
paultagsec17:03
paultagnigelb: congrats, really stellar work.17:03
paultagnigelb: keep it up17:03
nigelb:)17:04
paultagnigelb: I present my new blog17:04
paultagnigelb: http://blog.pault.ag/17:04
* nigelb toasts with paultag :)17:05
* paultag holds cup in air17:05
paultagJust finished tagging and sorting17:05
nigelbI love your theme17:05
nigelbminimalist is always rocking17:05
paultagthank you :)17:05
paultagI miss my old one17:05
paultagI spent some time hacking that one, the original was great, but I love my mod17:06
paultagNow, time to get it back on the planet17:06
paultagI'm really peeved off at screen's low ram handling17:09
doctormopaultag: I'll be heading out soon for DebConf, we'll have to do that coffee break next week when I get back.19:00
paultagdoctormo: kk sure thing19:01
paultagdoctormo: good luck!19:01
nigelbdoctormo: happy journey19:02
doctormoThanks paultag and nigelb, I think luck isn't needed. A strong constitution might be an idea though. ;-)19:03
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doctormopaultag: you know you've flooded the planet?19:50
nigelbLOL LOL LOL! The irony! http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/07/31/u-s-copyright-group-caught-stealing-competitors-code/19:55
duanedesignnigelb: glad to hear your Ubuntu Hour went well20:39
* duanedesign just got back from the Tulsa LUG/OKlahoma LoCo monthly meeting20:40
duanedesignand i forgot to take pictures :/20:40
doctormoIs it very quiet today or is it just my internet connection?21:24
doctormopleia2: how are you today?21:24
duanedesigndoctormo: looks like you had an Ubuntu Hour too. Was that this weekend?22:30
doctormoduanedesign: Nope, paultag's blog just reposted everything since he redid his blog. That Ubuntu hour was er, 4 weeks ago?22:32
doctormoduanedesign: Thanks for asking though, we're looking forward to having another22:32
senseFor the interested: the frontpage of http://guadec.org/ now shows a 7 * 7 grid of GUADEC 2010 photo thumbnails.22:32
duanedesignhaha22:32
duanedesigndoctormo: ^^22:32
duanedesigndoctormo: looks fun. I recently merged the OKlahoma loCo meetups with the Monthly Tulsa LoCo meetings22:33
doctormoduanedesign: Interesting, did it go well?22:34
duanedesignthere was the occasional month when noone would show. This ensures a healthy turnout22:34
doctormoMan some people o this bus are hogging all the bandwidth with their youtube22:34
duanedesignthe Tulsa LUG has a solid 8 regular members. Add in the fluctuating 1-6 Oklahoma loco participants and we have a nice meetup22:35
duanedesignthough we struggle to have demos that please both the new users and the power users22:35
doctormoduanedesign: You have demos? interesting, something we've never really done at MA22:37
duanedesigndoctormo: how is groundcontrol development going?22:37
doctormoduanedesign: Good, we got some pre-2.0 fixes in and the test suite is rockin, we got a dbus service going and it's all looking good.22:38
duanedesigndoctormo: yes every month someone gives a talk on a subject. We meet at the library so we have projectors and grease boards. Makes the demos nice22:38
doctormoI don't know though if it'll be in time for Maverick, I still hope so. But it might be that we release 1.6.3 to maverick and 2.0 to a ppa.22:38
duanedesigni was also doing a seperate coffee shop informal meetup. We would set up a computer with Ubuntu for the coffee shop visitors to use22:39
duanedesignlet them use it for 10 minutes then use the opportunity to talk to them about Ubuntu. 'Did you know the computer you are using is run on free software?'22:40
duanedesigndoctormo: glad groundcontrol is going well. I credit that app for cleaning up my 'Projects' folder22:41
doctormoduanedesign: You use it often?22:42
duanedesigni do. i would say 50/50. especially like it if i am not exactly sure which branch i need22:43
duanedesignwith my dev projects i am very familiar with the branch names so i am inclined to use cli for those22:44
doctormoduanedesign: Did you upgrade to 1.6.2 in my ppa? It contains an important fix for locking up on revert.22:49
doctormoppa:doctormo/groundcontrol22:49
duanedesigndoctormo: ahh. glad you mentioned that. I did a fresh install recently and have not got all my PPA's added back in. I will check..22:51
doctormothe fact that you and cjohnston use ground control regular means it must be more than just a curiosity or novelty.22:52
doctormoI know I use it a lot, mix with the cli sometimes.22:52
doctormoEsp for merge requests :-)22:52
duanedesigndoctormo: did you see on Planet i released a new version of CLIcompanion. That project is really starting to take shape.22:52
duanedesigndoctormo: heh, right22:52
doctormoduanedesign: no, what is it?22:52
duanedesignhttp://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=194  it allows you to store, search, and run commands from a GUI22:54
doctormoduanedesign: Ah I remember that, I remember you telling me about that22:56
doctormoA bigger screenshot! :-)22:56
duanedesignthat is a good idea22:57
duanedesignhttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4841650542_8006385774_b.jpg22:59
duanedesign:)22:59
duanedesignor at least have the picture in the post link to a bigger screenshot23:00
doctormothat is really what i meant23:07
pleia2doctormo: hey! good :) spent the day so far moving from a public storage unit into the ones we bought in the building we live in, phew23:34
pleia2doctormo: hope things are well up there in MA :)23:34
doctormopleia2: I think I might not be in MA anymore, I think I might be in NY, but it's hard to tell on this bus.23:37
pleia2doctormo: ah! have fun at debconf :)23:37
doctormopleia2: Hope so! should be fun.23:38
doctormopaultag: woot!23:57
paultaghey doctormo :)23:57
paultagdoctormo: how is it down south?23:58
doctormopaultag: I wouldn't know, I'm not there yet23:58
paultagCool23:58
paultagbus, then?23:58
paultagI take it it has wifi on the bus?23:58
paultagthat or a data plan23:59

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