[02:08] <doctormo> akgraner: A perl special? sounds awesome.
[02:14] <akgraner> doctormo, http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/Powerhouse-Perl
[02:15] <doctormo> akgraner: Wonderful, thanks. BTW how has your day been.
[02:19] <akgraner> pretty good!  spent the day with some much needed family time :-)
[02:19] <akgraner> and worked on my interview with pete
[03:36] <duanedesign> akgraner: aha, thanks for the tip on the perl special.
[03:39] <nigelb> akgraner: you're interviewing pete?
[04:11] <nigelb> "Who else besides Ubuntu welcomes everyone, and tries to maintain a sane, friendly community? My favorite distribution is Debian, but no way will I ever try to be contributor" - now thats worth hearing :)
[04:14] <doctormo> nigelb: who said that?
[04:15] <nigelb> Carla Schroder - http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-07-30-028-35-OS-CY-UB
[04:15] <nigelb> Also lol @ "If I were an ace coder I would rather eat dog doo than try to become a kernel contributor. Life is too short to waste living in a flame-proof suit."
[06:01] <duanedesign> nigelb: yes my first distro was debian. Needless to say the community was less than friendly
[06:02] <pleia2> nigelb: carla is one of my heroes :)
[06:03] <nigelb> pleia2: she wrote a very sensible article
[06:04] <pleia2> "n my grumpier moments their relentlessly positive, cult-like Kumbaya-or-else approach makes me want to turn the hose on them." hehe
[06:04] <pleia2> yeah, that's the hugging everyone thing we get teased about
[06:06] <nigelb> hahaha
[06:06] <nigelb> we should give her a group hug :p
[06:07] <pleia2> lol
[06:08] <pleia2> I helped edit her linux networking cookbook
[06:08] <nigelb> wow
[06:10] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/032008/LNC_thanks.jpg
[06:10] <pleia2> :)
[06:10] <pleia2> no in-print thanks because she forgot (doh!) but this was nice
[06:11] <nigelb> wow
[06:12] <nigelb> but really, most folks get attracted to the community in ubuntu
[06:12] <pleia2> yeah
[06:12] <pleia2> I still run a fair amount of debian to be honest, but here I am
[06:12] <nigelb> heh, I know
[06:13] <nigelb> noone cares if you're a developer or not :)
[06:13] <nigelb> you're still important to us... just as everyone is :)
[06:13] <pleia2> paulproteus has been nagging me to at least becoming a formal DM
[06:14] <duanedesign> that was a good article nigelb
[06:14] <nigelb> duanedesign: yeah, of all the ones I read.  I like that best
[06:14] <nigelb> pleia2: you probably should :)
[06:15] <duanedesign> i liked jonos rebuttal on that topic but an 'outsiders' opinion probably will be taken better.
[06:15] <duanedesign> for lack of a better way to put that :P
[06:15] <nigelb> Also code commits are the only thing considered
[06:15] <nigelb> no one thought of patches
[06:16] <pleia2> yeah, it really is package maintainer centric
[06:16] <pleia2> and ubuntu devs are becoming DDs, which is great
[06:17] <maco> im going to get my key signed at debconf in preparation for eventual DMness
[06:17] <nigelb> yes, plenty of them.  Most people don't want to do merges like zack said :)
[06:17] <pleia2> maco: yay!
[06:17] <nigelb> maco: didn't you get it signed at some UDS before?
[06:17] <nigelb> haven't you rather
[06:17] <pleia2> I got my key signed by paulproteus last summer, right after he became a DD
[06:17] <maco> nigelb: i dont think anyone who signed mine was a DD
[06:18] <maco> pleia2: wait he counts?
[06:18] <pleia2> maco: yep!
[06:18] <maco> in that case my old key is signed by paulproteus
[06:18] <maco> but i have a new one ill need to bug him about
[06:18] <nigelb> heh
[06:18] <duanedesign> i just need *someone* to sign mine, lol
[06:18] <nigelb> I need to get my key back
[06:18] <maco> you lost it?
[06:18] <pleia2> my key is old and small, I need to generate a new one I guess :(
[06:18] <duanedesign> nigelb: i inevitably lost my first one
[06:19] <nigelb> maco: in my laptop which is in the shop
[06:19] <maco> oh
[06:19] <duanedesign> pleia2: yes mine is small too....my key that is ;)
[06:19] <pleia2> context++
[06:19] <nigelb> duanedesign: oh that was evil :p
[06:20] <duanedesign> but right now i dont use it a whole lot. Since i lost my first one I am hesitant to make yet another
[06:22] <duanedesign> nigelb: the operation cleansweep and papercut stickies have been pretty popular. I think it would be a good idea to keep rotating out those stickies with current community projects
[06:24] <nigelb> good idea
[11:50] <sense> good morning
[11:51] <Pendulum> morning sense
[11:52] <AlanBell> hi Pendulum o/
[15:37] <doctormo> Morning sense and AlanBell
[15:52] <nigelb> wooo ubuntu bangalore meet up was a sucess!
[15:52] <nigelb> We even had a DD come in :)
[15:52] <paultag> nigelb: <3
[15:52] <paultag> nigelb: congrats!
[15:52] <paultag> nigelb: do you have photos?
[15:52] <nigelb> paultag: in the process of uploading
[15:52] <paultag> nigelb: let me know when they're online
[15:53] <nigelb> paultag: just connected cam to laptop and nothing happened
[15:53] <nigelb> :(
[15:53] <paultag> nigelb: >:(
[15:53] <paultag> nigelb: yank it's datacard
[15:53] <paultag> nigelb: throw it in the lappy
[15:53] <nigelb> paultag: this laptop was made before that technology was invented :p
[15:53] <paultag> >:(
[15:58] <doctormo> Hey paultag
[15:58] <paultag> hey doctormo
[15:58] <paultag> doctormo: just setting up my new domain, going back to wordpress after a 5 hour failed blog engine
[15:59] <doctormo> paultag: your own php awesomeness?
[15:59] <paultag> doctormo: yeah, based on Whube
[15:59] <doctormo> You code had problems or you just didn't have the resources to get it done?
[15:59] <paultag> doctormo: and it worked, you could make a new post, edit, all that, login worked great, it was seecure and it looked great
[15:59] <paultag> doctormo: I just did not want to spend another 5 hours today polishing it
[16:00] <doctormo> So often the way
[16:00] <paultag> doctormo: pushed source at http://github.com/whube/whublog
[16:00] <paultag> doctormo: and also on lp:whube
[16:02] <nigelb> 68
[16:02] <nigelb> grr
[16:03] <AlanBell> paultag: I wrote a blog engine once, but dropped it once spam started, I couldn't be bothered developing spam defenses for it.
[16:03] <paultag> AlanBell: yeah I was thinking of that too. I was considering a Javascript posting system
[16:03] <paultag> AlanBell: but meh, so much work.
[16:03] <paultag> AlanBell: had full markdown support, though :)
[16:04] <AlanBell> excellent, markdown is cool
[16:05] <doctormo> paultag: thanks for sources :-)
[16:05] <paultag> doctormo: sure, all my web stuff is AGPL :)
[16:05] <paultag> I figure, why let it die if someone else cares
[16:05] <doctormo> paultag: With your lococ hat on, I got ical feeds for loco teams in the directory.
[16:06] <paultag> doctormo: outstanding. I remember dholbach was working on that, but it's great to hear it's working ( finally )
[16:06] <paultag> doctormo: thanks a ton
[16:06] <doctormo> We should be able to recommend replacing individual google calendar feeds for locos after some testing.
[16:06] <paultag> for sure
[16:08] <paultag> doctormo: thanks for doing that, you rock
[16:11] <doctormo> paultag: I said I'd put some time into the code :-D
[16:13] <nigelb> paultag: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigelbabu/
[16:13] <nigelb> in the process of uploading, patience appreciated :D
[16:15] <paultag> doctormo: :)
[16:15] <paultag> nigelb: kickass, let me know when they are all up :)
[16:16] <nigelb> paultag: keep refreshing ;)
[16:16] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[16:17] <nigelb> paultag: all done!
[16:20] <nigelb> paultag: guess which one's me :p
[16:20] <paultag> nigelb: I know what you look like :P
[16:20] <nigelb> heh
[16:21] <paultag> nigelb: we are facebook friends, you nerd
[16:21] <nigelb> hahaha
[16:21] <nigelb> good point, I forgot
[16:22] <paultag> :)
[17:02] <nigelb> \o/ http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/ubuntu-hour-in-bangalore/
[17:02] <nigelb> paultag: ^^
[17:02] <nigelb> also, pleia2 and maco ^
[17:03] <paultag> ohai
[17:03] <paultag> sec
[17:03] <paultag> nigelb: congrats, really stellar work.
[17:03] <paultag> nigelb: keep it up
[17:04] <nigelb> :)
[17:04] <paultag> nigelb: I present my new blog
[17:04] <paultag> nigelb: http://blog.pault.ag/
[17:05]  * nigelb toasts with paultag :)
[17:05]  * paultag holds cup in air
[17:05] <paultag> Just finished tagging and sorting
[17:05] <nigelb> I love your theme
[17:05] <nigelb> minimalist is always rocking
[17:05] <paultag> thank you :)
[17:05] <paultag> I miss my old one
[17:06] <paultag> I spent some time hacking that one, the original was great, but I love my mod
[17:06] <paultag> Now, time to get it back on the planet
[17:09] <paultag> I'm really peeved off at screen's low ram handling
[19:00] <doctormo> paultag: I'll be heading out soon for DebConf, we'll have to do that coffee break next week when I get back.
[19:01] <paultag> doctormo: kk sure thing
[19:01] <paultag> doctormo: good luck!
[19:02] <nigelb> doctormo: happy journey
[19:03] <doctormo> Thanks paultag and nigelb, I think luck isn't needed. A strong constitution might be an idea though. ;-)
[19:50] <doctormo> paultag: you know you've flooded the planet?
[19:55] <nigelb> LOL LOL LOL! The irony! http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/07/31/u-s-copyright-group-caught-stealing-competitors-code/
[20:39] <duanedesign> nigelb: glad to hear your Ubuntu Hour went well
[20:40]  * duanedesign just got back from the Tulsa LUG/OKlahoma LoCo monthly meeting
[20:40] <duanedesign> and i forgot to take pictures :/
[21:24] <doctormo> Is it very quiet today or is it just my internet connection?
[21:24] <doctormo> pleia2: how are you today?
[22:30] <duanedesign> doctormo: looks like you had an Ubuntu Hour too. Was that this weekend?
[22:32] <doctormo> duanedesign: Nope, paultag's blog just reposted everything since he redid his blog. That Ubuntu hour was er, 4 weeks ago?
[22:32] <doctormo> duanedesign: Thanks for asking though, we're looking forward to having another
[22:32] <sense> For the interested: the frontpage of http://guadec.org/ now shows a 7 * 7 grid of GUADEC 2010 photo thumbnails.
[22:32] <duanedesign> haha
[22:32] <duanedesign> doctormo: ^^
[22:33] <duanedesign> doctormo: looks fun. I recently merged the OKlahoma loCo meetups with the Monthly Tulsa LoCo meetings
[22:34] <doctormo> duanedesign: Interesting, did it go well?
[22:34] <duanedesign> there was the occasional month when noone would show. This ensures a healthy turnout
[22:34] <doctormo> Man some people o this bus are hogging all the bandwidth with their youtube
[22:35] <duanedesign> the Tulsa LUG has a solid 8 regular members. Add in the fluctuating 1-6 Oklahoma loco participants and we have a nice meetup
[22:35] <duanedesign> though we struggle to have demos that please both the new users and the power users
[22:37] <doctormo> duanedesign: You have demos? interesting, something we've never really done at MA
[22:37] <duanedesign> doctormo: how is groundcontrol development going?
[22:38] <doctormo> duanedesign: Good, we got some pre-2.0 fixes in and the test suite is rockin, we got a dbus service going and it's all looking good.
[22:38] <duanedesign> doctormo: yes every month someone gives a talk on a subject. We meet at the library so we have projectors and grease boards. Makes the demos nice
[22:38] <doctormo> I don't know though if it'll be in time for Maverick, I still hope so. But it might be that we release 1.6.3 to maverick and 2.0 to a ppa.
[22:39] <duanedesign> i was also doing a seperate coffee shop informal meetup. We would set up a computer with Ubuntu for the coffee shop visitors to use
[22:40] <duanedesign> let them use it for 10 minutes then use the opportunity to talk to them about Ubuntu. 'Did you know the computer you are using is run on free software?'
[22:41] <duanedesign> doctormo: glad groundcontrol is going well. I credit that app for cleaning up my 'Projects' folder
[22:42] <doctormo> duanedesign: You use it often?
[22:43] <duanedesign> i do. i would say 50/50. especially like it if i am not exactly sure which branch i need
[22:44] <duanedesign> with my dev projects i am very familiar with the branch names so i am inclined to use cli for those
[22:49] <doctormo> duanedesign: Did you upgrade to 1.6.2 in my ppa? It contains an important fix for locking up on revert.
[22:49] <doctormo> ppa:doctormo/groundcontrol
[22:51] <duanedesign> doctormo: ahh. glad you mentioned that. I did a fresh install recently and have not got all my PPA's added back in. I will check..
[22:52] <doctormo> the fact that you and cjohnston use ground control regular means it must be more than just a curiosity or novelty.
[22:52] <doctormo> I know I use it a lot, mix with the cli sometimes.
[22:52] <doctormo> Esp for merge requests :-)
[22:52] <duanedesign> doctormo: did you see on Planet i released a new version of CLIcompanion. That project is really starting to take shape.
[22:52] <duanedesign> doctormo: heh, right
[22:52] <doctormo> duanedesign: no, what is it?
[22:54] <duanedesign> http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=194  it allows you to store, search, and run commands from a GUI
[22:56] <doctormo> duanedesign: Ah I remember that, I remember you telling me about that
[22:56] <doctormo> A bigger screenshot! :-)
[22:57] <duanedesign> that is a good idea
[22:59] <duanedesign> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4841650542_8006385774_b.jpg
[22:59] <duanedesign> :)
[23:00] <duanedesign> or at least have the picture in the post link to a bigger screenshot
[23:07] <doctormo> that is really what i meant
[23:34] <pleia2> doctormo: hey! good :) spent the day so far moving from a public storage unit into the ones we bought in the building we live in, phew
[23:34] <pleia2> doctormo: hope things are well up there in MA :)
[23:37] <doctormo> pleia2: I think I might not be in MA anymore, I think I might be in NY, but it's hard to tell on this bus.
[23:37] <pleia2> doctormo: ah! have fun at debconf :)
[23:38] <doctormo> pleia2: Hope so! should be fun.
[23:57] <doctormo> paultag: woot!
[23:57] <paultag> hey doctormo :)
[23:58] <paultag> doctormo: how is it down south?
[23:58] <doctormo> paultag: I wouldn't know, I'm not there yet
[23:58] <paultag> Cool
[23:58] <paultag> bus, then?
[23:58] <paultag> I take it it has wifi on the bus?
[23:59] <paultag> that or a data plan