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HackanaThank ye00:00
tripelbcoz_ Apologies for the link. It was for my friends on a quite different channel00:00
hiexpoHackana,  - http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu00:00
yotta911good night.00:00
coz_tripelb,  no problem   it happens to all of us :)00:00
HackanaAnd how can I delete the netbook remix desktop?00:00
antibodyhello ladies and gents00:00
tripelbI want a live-CD that includes the "nonfree" (flash, mp3, dvd's) and xchat.00:00
SoldOutantibody: hi00:01
yotta911it's possible convert a ODS spreadsheet to a sqlite database?00:01
tripelbdream on they say...00:01
antibodyquick question: Why do I have an app called "apt-check" running on background eating 99% of my cpu for a loooooooong 760:30.99 of time00:01
antibody10.0400:01
hiexpotripelb,  what you want to install nonfree stuff?00:01
synnine@wolf I dont exactly understand what you want.  Access without using a password?00:01
yotta911tripelb: you can make yourself00:01
tripelbI dont know how to. Is it easy?00:02
wolfricsynnie: no just the reason why the correct username and password is being denied on ubuntu and not on other win boxes00:02
dludldinmy internet provider announce a download speed of 6mbps but im not sure about that as this is a 3g connection. is there a way to test my internet connection speed?00:02
tripelbI have a friend who is running off a liev cd (skip story) and would like those things.00:02
tripelbyotta911, ^^^^ 2 comments00:02
hiexpotripelb,  have to install them00:02
headkase314synnie: Is it Windows 7 for the win boxes? I recall there is a setting that must be done to them related to encryption to get them to work with the current samba.00:03
tripelbI have them installed hiexpo but I wanted it all on a liveCD00:03
yotta911tripelb: wait a moment00:03
hiexpotripelb,  not gonna happen00:03
synninestrange.  like i said i setup my samba using samba server and share my ubuntu box with other machines, and also access windows shares on00:03
hiexpobuild your own live cd then00:03
SubCoolennui, that i dont know. when i use to mangle my Virtual Box images, it wouldnt hurt my host box at all. But i dont have MAC00:03
tripelbI dont know how to. Is it easy? hiexpo00:04
Four2zero||MW2Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version00:04
Four2zero||MW2default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.22-2-686; make sure that the version is being00:04
Four2zero||MW2correctly set by --iscurrentdistro00:04
dementor:))) finelyy my bluutooth is working likea headsett niceeeeeeeeee00:04
dabowlesHello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7. Installer sees drive(s) but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?00:04
coz_tripelb,  you would most likely have to "re-create"  alive cd with the things you want on it00:04
ennuiSubCool: Thanks for your help :)00:04
tripelbI dont know how to. Is it easy? hiexpo  coz_00:04
wolfricsynnie: anything i can do to diagnos it?00:04
SubCoolennui, good luck- there are a few sites that make it VERy easy- i just wasnt comfortable with having to create a boot disc and stupid stuff..00:04
synninemy ubuntu box00:04
yotta911tripelb: search at google by remastersys00:04
SoldOutantibody: apt-check?00:04
SubCoolennui, np-00:04
hiexpolearn linus and google is your friend also00:04
wolfricdiagnose*00:04
coz_tripelb,  to be honest I have not done it  however it is possible00:04
dludldinhow much kbs 6mbps are?00:04
synninewhat did you use to setup samba?00:04
hiexpo^linux00:04
icerootdludldin: 600000:04
tripelbok I'll check yotta911 coz_00:05
wolfricsynnie: nothing i don't need a samba server00:05
coz_dludldin,  1 meg = 1000 kbytes00:05
dludldiniceroot : thanks00:05
rwwdludldin: 614400:05
hiexpocoz_,  not exactly00:05
coz_hiexpo,  no not exactly :)00:06
SoldOutcoz_: 1024 me tihnks00:06
antibodySoldOut, no idea00:06
wolfricsynnie: i just went to network and double clicked the computer i wanted to access.. i can get onto one machine just fine but the other pops up asking for a user+pass (the one i'm currently on now which i most definitely know the password). I enter it correctly and it reasks00:06
SoldOutantibody: just kill it00:06
antibodyI do a " top" and I have this  2199 antibody  39  19 36676  21m 3080 R   94  0.7 765:44.99 apt-check00:06
dludldin3g connections aren t so accurate are they?00:06
coz_dludldin,    http://www.smartftp.com/support/kb/bits-bytes-mega-giga-tera-f53.html00:06
iceroothiexpo: SoldOut speed is giving in 10^2 not 2^1000:06
antibodya new one was created soldout00:07
dludldincoz_ the problem is that im using a 3g connection and i don t trust it very much00:07
SoldOutantibody: how did you kill it?00:07
antibodykill PID00:07
coz_dludldin,   not sure what you mean00:07
dludldinis there a way to test this crap?00:08
antibodyit is reallly weird00:08
coz_dludldin,  test your connection you mean?00:08
dludldincoz_ : yes00:08
coz_dludldin,    go here    http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/00:08
icerootdludldin: use a speedtester (google)00:08
antibody/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check00:08
antibodyok that's the app00:08
SoldOutantibody: I dont think apt-check is part of APT00:08
pie* NOTE! You are using trial version of Open Sound System   * <--isntit open source? so what the hell?00:08
Daekdroompie, in a few versions, it was closed source00:09
Daekdroompie, but not anymore00:10
pie:/00:10
coz_pie,  http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html00:10
SoldOutantibody: what user is it running under?00:10
pieim pretty sure i have the latest version...00:10
coz_pie,   it is or should be open source00:10
HackanaSorry for so many newb questions but....now that Xubuntu is installed, and I know how to get to the session from log-in screen, how do I delete the gnome based desktops that the remix came with? I've found pages that explain how to add desktops, but none on how to remove lol00:10
coz_pie,   you could go to #oss  channel00:11
antibodymy user soldout, not root00:11
piecoz_: well anyway ill take a look at that site again, thanks Daekdroom and coz_00:11
antibodyI can't do dist-upgrade , somehow it calculates de upgrade forever00:11
antibodynormal upgrade works00:11
coz_pie,   also go to #oss  just type   /join #oss  where you type here00:11
coz_pie,   thats just incase you ddnt know that :)00:11
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ennuirunning linux on a mac: bad for the CPU? or an old wives' tale?00:12
dabowlesHello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7 already installed. Ubuntu installer sees drive but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?00:12
MagicJI have a phone that has a USB data connection.  When I plug it into the computer sure enough it sees that it is connected to something and it also chaeges, yet ubuntu does not tell me that it see the phone.  What do I need to do to make this mound00:12
coz_ennui,   strange old wives tale00:12
antibodyit seems linked to the update-manager00:12
hiexpowise tale00:12
antibodythere we go I killed both and their dead00:12
HackanaMaybe it was from a time when apple had unique CPUs with their own machine language, but now they just use intel00:13
dludldincoz_ thanks00:13
HackanaReally now apple is just a PC with a apple stamp00:13
coz_dludldin,  no problem00:13
dludldiniceroot thanks00:13
LearningToPieHi folks00:13
coz_LearningToPie,   hey guy00:14
nailora1can you suggest some calendar software if i do not feel comfortable with evolution?00:15
SoldOutantibody: have you got the package-manager open?00:15
sometuxnailora1, google!00:15
SoldOutantibody: if so close it and try this     sudo dpkg --clear-avail00:15
dludldinthe "real" internet speed is about  1/10 isn't it ?00:16
antibodykt tnx00:16
hiexpoHackana,  you sure do ask a lot of ? > starting to look suspicious00:16
nailora1sometux: ok, did not think about that. but google calendar might indeed be an option00:17
TheAlchem1sthey guys, i am trying to start my proftpd server and i get that : Fatal: SystemLog: you are attempting to log to a world writable directory on line 95 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'         (what is wrong?)00:17
SoldOutdludldin: its only as fast as your slowest link!00:17
nailora1TheAlchem1st: please show us your config00:18
TheAlchem1stok 2 sec00:18
Lizzard88Q: what is the best Dvd burning software out there?00:20
Lizzard88for ubuntu?00:20
hiexpoHackana,  suspicious  = cop or hacker  here    > cop ok hacker not ok00:20
SoldOutLizzard88: gui or cli?00:20
MagicJwhy would a cop ask a lot of questions of that type00:20
nailora1Lizzard88: depends on what you want to do. i am perfectly fine with brasero00:20
Random832or a hacker for that matter00:21
castwhats the current ubuntu kernel?00:21
hiexpoMagicJ,  you'd be suprised to get people to talk00:21
coz_Lizzard88,  I prefer gnomebaker  personally00:21
MagicJah - the old get their confidence routine - thanks hiexpo00:21
Random832hiexpo: to talk aout what?00:22
TheAlchem1stThis is my config http://pastebin.com/jzJtyFYf00:22
c3lhow does ubuntu start X, and what configuration file is loaded at that time?00:22
dabowlesSorry for being such a newbie snack, but if my question isn't acknowledged after two attempts should I drop it?00:23
LearningToPieguys, why can't i use the good olde command "/list" to list rooms here? Using Empathy.00:23
SoldOutc3l: I was going to say Xor.conf00:23
SoldOutc3l: I was going to say Xorg*.conf00:23
Random832as opposed to Nand.conf00:23
nailora1cast: you can run "uname -a" to get your kernel. you can search synaptic for a list of available kernels00:23
MagicJok - when I plug my phone in I get in the dmesg file: lines that I can not seem to paste into here that tell me that the device has been seen is using ohci_hcd and address 3 - et - now how do I see it?00:23
castnailora1: right, my kernel, which is different.00:24
Random832LearningToPie: probably because empathy isn't a real irc client00:24
hiexpoRandom832,  to say something illegal  easy aspect   > easy mark  = easy case00:24
c3lSoldOut: its no longer in use. I was thinking about xset and similar configs though00:24
Random832hiexpo: but it's not even related to anything - shouldn't you think _anyone_ in here is a cop?00:24
Random832and what if a cop needs help with their ubuntu, geez00:24
SoldOutc3l: yeah   thought that  but wasnt sure00:24
nailora1TheAlchem1st: please run "ls -laR /var/log/proftpd/"00:25
Random832this is a support channel - there's nothing suspicious about asking questions00:25
TheAlchem1stsoo, my /var/log/proftpd/proftpd.log is "world writable directory, how can I fix that00:25
TheAlchem1stok00:25
hiexpoRandom832,  nevermind00:25
SoldOutc3l: I think if you create an xorg.conf    it will be used00:26
Lizzard88When i drag the files into Brasero, the program freezes00:26
juan_bnhgnhnghjghgj00:27
slidinghornLizzard88, try replicating the issue by opening brasero from a terminal and posting the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com00:27
juan_dgsgdhgfo00:27
juan_iy9pit9mmmmmtyuhygunfygognilhjlilm,00:28
TheAlchem1stthe output is here http://pastebin.com/iE7UALfP00:28
slidinghornjuan_, do you have an ubuntu related support question?00:28
rwwjuan_: Something we can help you with?00:28
marca311hello, anyone have experience with ndiswrapper and realtek cards?00:28
dabowlesI need help!00:28
slidinghorn!anyone | marca31100:28
ubottumarca311: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?00:28
nailora1TheAlchem1st: you might want to run "sudo chmod -R o-w /var/log/proftpd/" to remove (at least) write access from that directory and the files within00:28
c3lSoldOut: true, but the file is on its way to get deprecated iirc, so im looking for the correct file00:29
hiexpomarca311,  what realtec carm most are supported00:29
TheAlchem1stokay i ll try that00:29
hiexpo^card00:29
nailora1did you change them in the past? do you use some strange setup (fat filesystem, ...)?00:29
SoldOutc3l: and you can still start X with a custom xorg file   if thats what you need00:29
marca311@hiexpo please repeat that00:29
dabowlesPlease?00:29
SoldOutc3l: ah ok00:29
slidinghorn!ask | dabowles00:29
ubottudabowles: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:29
dabowlesHello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7 already installed. Ubuntu installer sees drive but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?00:30
econdudeawesome!anyone|dabowles00:30
ubottudabowles: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?00:30
Lizzard88slidinghorn: nothing is showing up on the terminal00:30
hiexpowhat realtek card what model and version00:30
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marca311ah00:30
HackanaHmmmmmm....I ask alot of questions cause I am new to using Linux :D00:30
HackanaAnd I just made a bunch of random letters for a name00:30
MagicJok - so - I am not a cop - how do I get an answer to my question - or where should I ask it00:30
slidinghorndabowles, are you sure it's seeing the correct drive?   take a look at /msg ubottu !raid00:30
VesperoI think I'm experiencing technical difficulties. Could someone please respond to this?00:31
dabowlesYeah, it's the correct drive...it's the only one00:31
marca311@hiexpo realtek 8187b00:31
SoldOutVespero: more info please00:31
HackanaI still need to learn how to uninstall a desktop........if its possible...00:31
nailora1TheAlchem1st: "sudo find / -wholename /proc -prune -or \( -perm -o+w \) -and \( -type f -or -type d \)" generates a list of world-writable files/directories. you might want to have a look at that, too. but it requires some skill to read the output of that command00:31
marca311@hiexpo driver version: 04/15/2009,5.1160.0415.200900:31
dustinhi yall00:32
coz_Hackana,  which desktop did you want to uninstall?00:32
HackanaThe Netbook Remix00:32
hiexpomarca311,  ok thats what brand wifi device is it00:32
Hackanaand possible Netbook Remix 2D00:32
marca311@hiexpo realtek00:32
bazhang!une > Hackana00:32
ubottuHackana, please see my private message00:32
hiexpomarca311,  usb00:32
TheAlchem1stserver work now ty, i ll check that right now00:32
marca311@hiexpo it's builtin to a system76 starling netbook00:33
marca311@hiexpo built in00:33
marca311it shows up as usb though00:33
hiexpomarca311,  ok let me check00:33
nailora1TheAlchem1st: good luck, i am off for the night00:33
TheAlchem1sttyvm!00:33
ilumi!webcam00:34
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras00:34
Ejdesgaardhi... i'm in need of some magic to get Europa Universalis 3 Complete to work... i have followed the codeweavers guide http://tinyurl.com/37x2s3v and tried to start eu3 from console witch gives the following output: http://dpaste.org/FNAO/00:34
ping_Hi there, i'm looking for RAID0 with ubuntu, does somebody have any advice on using LVM or not ?00:34
dustinwhat for?00:35
bazhangEjdesgaard, for crossover?00:35
Favoritping_: if you want software raid LVM is ok.00:35
marca311@hiexpo the problem itself is that my computer cannot see the card after being in suspend or hibernate00:35
dustinsever  ordesktop?00:35
marca311@hiexpo personally i think that the problem is ndiswrapper itself00:35
Ejdesgaardbazhang, yes, i'm running crossover games 9.1 on ubuntu 10.04 x86_6400:36
hiexpomarca311,  ndi is bad00:36
ping_Favorit, LVM won't run on motherboard Intel "fake raid"  ?00:36
Favoritping_: those 2 are unrelated00:36
marca311@hiexpo well, the "linux" drivers provided by the manufacturer don't work00:36
dabowlesslidinghorn, thank you. I'll check it out.00:36
hiexpomarca311,  what version ubuntu ?00:37
pmjphi people00:37
castping_: LVM doesnt care about your fake raid, motherboard, or anything beyond having rw access to a block device00:37
marca311@hiexpo and the only way i could get it to work in the first place is to use ndiswrapper00:37
SoldOutpmjp: hi there00:37
marca31110.0400:37
TheAlchem1stWhen i m connecting to my proftpd server with my "user" account and i arrived in my /home/user but i have no rights and i m stuck there, how can I change my permission for /var/www at least00:37
pmjpdecided to check out the irc channel00:38
hiexpopure_hate,  - hey mate    :)00:38
TheAlchem1stpure_hate from backtrack? =)00:38
ping_cast, Ok thanks00:38
joe_2010Hi all,,,  Is/When will BtrFS be supported here on U/X/Kubuntu's distros?00:38
SoldOutpmjp: I hope it meets your needs!00:39
pmjpjust recently installed Ubuntu Netbook its awesome00:39
bazhangjoe_2010, perhaps next release #ubuntu+100:39
pmjpI havent been a linux user in a while00:39
bazhang!manual | pmjp may want to see this then00:40
ubottupmjp may want to see this then: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/00:40
hiexpoTheAlchem1st,  why you ask ?00:40
pure_hatehola hiexpo00:40
pmjpthank you00:40
joe_2010bazhang, Ok...  that release is what, in October?!00:40
pmjpI been dabbling with linux before Ubuntu came on the scene00:41
bazhangjoe_2010, yes, discussion and support in #ubuntu+100:41
TheAlchem1stJust curious, pure_hate helped me a while ago on bt300:41
joe_2010ok, thanks!!00:41
TheAlchem1ston th board ahah00:41
dustinwhatsthe diffrence00:41
hiexpoTheAlchem1st,  kool00:41
SoldOutjoe_2010: yeah oct 10th AFAIK00:41
bazhang!who | dustin00:41
ubottudustin: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:41
pmjphehe00:42
dustinubottu can you talk to me , about, an os?00:42
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:42
hiexpoTheAlchem1st,  nice guy00:42
bazhangdustin, dont play with the bot00:42
SoldOutpmjp: what kind of linux you used before?00:42
TheAlchem1sthiexpo, yeah =)00:43
bazhangpmjp, please keep chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , support here00:43
pmjpwell Debian, Red Hat (before it  was Fedora), Older version of Ubuntu (5 I think), lol Suse before it was open, and tried installing Gentoo but failed lol00:44
dustinlol ok, just  for you00:44
bazhang!ot | dustin pmjp00:45
ubottudustin pmjp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!00:45
pmjpsorry00:45
hiexpomarca311,  go here and read - www.aircrack-ng00:45
SoldOutpmjp: well rounded selection there :)00:46
pmjpthanks00:46
pmjpis there a games channel?00:46
HackanaCan I use the terminal as a compiler for C? Sorry bout all the questions, I just vaguely remember using it in CIS (Computer Information Science) and we used it either as a compiler or just to run compiled code. Once again sorry for all the questions >.> I'm just trying to understand Linux lol00:46
marca311url does not exist00:47
bazhang!compile > Hackana00:47
ubottuHackana, please see my private message00:47
FavoritHackana: you can install gcc and use that as a compiler00:47
SoldOutpmjp: not really no00:47
bazhangHackana, install build-essential00:47
hiexpomarca311,  go to support section00:47
pmjptoo bad00:47
marca311@hiexpo ?00:47
hiexpomarca311,  sure00:48
pmjpwas wondering what would be the best games to get on ubuntu00:48
bazhang!games > pmjp00:48
ubottupmjp, please see my private message00:48
marca311@hiexpo www.aircrack-ng.org (you forgot the .org)00:48
TheAlchem1sthow can I give permission to my user to upload in /var/www by ftp00:48
SoldOutpmjp: what game?00:49
hiexpomarca311,  you figured it out00:49
Alan502Hi, i have my laptop set up to do not ask password when I ssh my desktop. 'ssh mydesktop' works perfectly, but when I try to use ssh with rsync it asks me for my password anyway. What could be happening?00:49
pmjpthanks for everything00:50
Four2zero||MW2whats a good utility for reduce bass in ubuntu ?00:50
pmjpsee ya later00:50
Four2zero||MW210.400:50
randy_TheAlchem1st: the trick is in the unix permissions system and how you set up your FTP server.  for example, if you have the ftp server set up normally, i believe that if the user is a member of the www-data group and has write priveleges in that group on /var/www then that user can then sign in and upload stuff.  this assumes of course that /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data00:51
marca311@hiexpo but aircrack-ng is a wireless key cracker00:51
marca311@hiexpo why have you sent me there?00:51
randy_TheAlchem1st: then there are other FTP server settings associated with *what* their home directories are per user, etc... etc... to include whether or not they even have upload permission in the first place. for example, you can set a FTP server to never allow upload no matter what, even if the directory has 777 permissions00:52
hiexpomarca311,  - true but good drivers for wireless cards etc00:52
Four2zero||MW2Is there a utility for reduce bass in ubuntu 10.l4 ?00:52
marca311@hiexpo ah00:52
marca311@hiexpo i will try thenb00:52
marca311@hiexpo then00:52
randy_TheAlchem1st: just keep in mind that anything you allow users to do in /var/www will compromise the integrity of /var/www running on the webserver.  usually, the permissions on /var/www are kept strict for a reason.00:52
mint!best > mint00:53
ubottumint, please see my private message00:53
marca311@hiexpo i have also aquired the drivers from a location on the system76 site00:53
marca311@hiexpo i will try those also00:53
Eighteenshello, i am trying to boot my hp dv6 from a flash drive, this works on all my systems except  this one laptop in particular, the problem is that i get no display, after choosing default from the boot menu, it goes a bit, then i hear sound, but my screen goes blank, what should i do? thanks in advance00:53
TheAlchem1strandy_, i have proftpd, i can upload in my home but i cannpot lsit the root of everything . Its the default config.00:54
TheAlchem1stthank you  ill re read you00:54
randy_TheAlchem1st: its common for FTP servers to jail you in your 'home' directory per server settings.  you usually don't want FTP users to be able to see above their /home/<user>/ but this can be changed of course in the ProFTPd settings00:55
hiexpomarca311,  get a grip i will not send you to a place that is not useful to you ok00:55
randy_TheAlchem1st: a quick and dirty fix could be to simply symlink /var/www to /home/<user>/ so they stay in their jail but can browse /var/www (mileage may vary depending on how strict ProFTPd is...)00:55
TheAlchem1strandy_, thank you, so i must check in the conf?00:56
hiexpomarca311,  system76 never heard of it00:56
marca311@hiexpo sorry00:56
TheAlchem1sti ll try that.00:56
marca311@hiexpo google it00:56
randy_TheAlchem1st: yeah, you're gonna have to do some research, proFTPd is powerful (thus, complicated) but it *can* do what you want.  you should read some of the fantastic (and long winded) manuals on ProFTPd00:56
marca311@hiexpo all their computer come pre-installed with ubuntu00:56
Four2zero||MW2Is there a utility for reduce bass in ubuntu 10.4 ?00:56
shzlnzlhow do i make my "3 window buttons" on the rights side of the window again?00:57
TheAlchem1strandy_. thanks i ll read about that. =)00:57
Alan502Is anybody here good with rsync?00:57
hiexpomarca311,  softpedia   sourceforge00:57
bazhang!controls > shzlnzl00:57
ubottushzlnzl, please see my private message00:57
unclemike? isent there a net install for 10.0400:58
randy_TheAlchem1st: you should also google on how to set up a domain hosting type server with proFTPd, its common for ISP's to offer domain services with an upload feature.  the upload, of course, ends up in the user's appropriate /var/www directory ...00:58
randy_TheAlchem1st: all of it is done with FTP, so what you want to do has most definitely been done before, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding some helpful information00:58
randy_TheAlchem1st: I just hope I managed to push you in the right direction to an answer ;)00:59
pradeephello everyone i my screen flickers alot when using my laptop it is becoming a little embarrassing when trying to work anyway i dont know if anyone is experience this issue00:59
pradeepdell 144000:59
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TheAlchem1strandy_, are you talking about dyndns and stuff like that? because i m using it for my domain.01:00
TheAlchem1stand its allright for the moment01:01
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hiexpomarca311,  there is nothing special about buying a computer with ubuntu preinstalled01:01
xhaneHello, I require some assistance with the new Ubuntu 10.0401:02
xhaneCould someone help me please?01:03
SoldOutmarca311: if your computer comes preinstalled with ubuntu    you should jump with joy01:03
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hiexpomarca311,  i build comp daily and install lots of linux os  on theme01:03
bazhangxhane, ask a question then01:03
xhaneThank you.01:03
xhaneI've already tried Googling this before coming here to bother anyone.01:04
xhaneThe Networking Manager doesn't seem to work.01:04
Aiyahello~01:04
SoldOutxhane: dont be put off by bazhang    hes a bit uptight01:04
glickis there software for ubuntu for editing hd video?01:04
bazhangSoldOut, that is not appropriate for here.01:04
hiexpo!networking > xhane01:05
HackanaOkay, last question, I promise. Is there any down side to having multiple desktop environments on one machine? Will they possible conflict, or due to the whole Ubuntu sleeps processes its not using, will it be okay? Also am I right in assuming Ubuntu is sorta the equivalent of DOS, and the desktop environment is sorta just a way to graphically represent it? Or something like that.....of...01:05
Hackana...course its more complicated than DOS, but the desktop is just a GUI?01:05
SoldOutbad day at the office01:05
bazhangHackana, nope, install kubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop and whatever you wish01:05
AiyaI have install ubuntu network.Now I want to ask how do I make two worksheet like ubuntu desktop01:06
bazhangHackana, just choose which one at the login window01:06
xhaneI would install Wicd to fix this problem, but I have no access to the internet, so I can't download Wicd as well.01:06
xhaneThis is frustrating :(01:06
HackanaOkay, cool, was worried they might conflict, but okay :D Thanks for all your help! Have a good day and all that stuff ^.^01:06
hiexpobazhang,  >yup supper  simp01:07
Mr_SonomaFour2zero||MW2, what about alsa mixer? don't have it installed on my system but looks like it might do the trick for you01:07
bazhangHackana, the menu might get a bit crowded for apps is all, but you can edit that01:07
bazhanghiexpo, excuse me?01:07
Eighteenshello, i am trying to boot my hp dv6 from a flash drive to ubuntu 9.10, this works on all my systems except  this one laptop in particular, the problem is that i get no display, after choosing default from the boot menu, it goes a bit, then i hear sound, but my screen goes blank, what should i do? thanks in advance01:08
wisemanswordmy console font setting (in /etc/default/console-setup) isnt working when i install nvidia dirver and my screen card nvidia geforce7100 what can i do?01:08
shurathingHey guys... I got my netbook at Starbucks trying to access the ssh server (mac). But Putty keeps timing out.01:08
hiexpobazhang,  was saying so easy to choose desktop enviroment at log in01:08
bazhangEighteens, tried booting in recovery mode?01:08
SoldOutxhane: whats not working?01:08
xhaneSoldOut, the networking01:08
xhaneI can't detect any networks at all01:09
jasonwryanEighteens: nomodeset?01:09
SoldOutxhane: wifi?01:09
xhaneYeah01:09
Phluffyhello01:09
shurathingxhane: xhane.... reply with the name of who you're talking to ... it's easier for them to keep track of the chat01:10
xhaneAlright01:10
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xhaneSoldOut: Yeah, Wifi01:10
shurathingxhane: what version of ubuntu?01:10
xhane10.0401:10
picard1421can i have some help?01:10
picard1421http://pastebin.com/c5Va7nSY01:10
shurathingxhane: what are you running it on?01:10
picard1421im not sure why im getting those compile errors01:10
SoldOuthe did use my name01:10
xhaneshurathing: What do you mean?01:11
Alan502Is anybody here good with rsync?01:11
SoldOutxhane: is the card up?01:11
MaRk-IEighteens: http://maketecheasier.com/solving-ubuntu-karmic-black-screen-issue/2009/12/2901:11
koshariAlan502 iam ok01:11
xhaneSoldOut: I'm using the inbuilt WiFi hardware01:11
shurathingxhane: what computer do you have. I had a wireless problem on the netbook, but a simple backport fixed it.01:11
xhaneSoldOut: And I just upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 yesterday.01:12
SoldOutxhane: sure but is the card up?01:12
th0rAlan502: if you don't need the command line, try grsync, it is just a gui frontend for rsync01:12
xhaneshurathing: I'm using an Optima computer01:12
hiexpowe forget how to make wifi work   > someday get smarter01:12
DextralusOh yes, wireless - seemingly the bane of all ubuntu netbooks :P01:13
hiexpo:)01:13
kohlersi am failing to get jack to run. Followed the instructions, am to change usermod <- end of process01:13
PhluffyShurathing, i am having a similar issue with wireless, where it connects, than disconnects01:13
DextralusThankfully the fix on my samsung n220 is straightforward; though, I haven't done it yet...01:13
xhaneshurathing: It's quite old, but I'm sure it works fine, because when I had Ubuntu Jaunty yesterday, WiFi was working, but I received my Ubuntu 10.04 CD and I installed it, and now the networking is not functioning at all.01:14
picard1421anyone help me ? with the prolem? compile error?01:14
shurathingxhane: did you try to install the backport module? for Lucid?01:14
dustinany one here know how to compile/command? and good at it01:14
hiexpo!compile > picard142101:14
ubottupicard1421, please see my private message01:14
xhaneshurathing: I don't know the backport module01:15
picard1421LOL01:15
shurathingxhane: one sec... let me look for it01:15
picard1421ok .. i have read that..01:15
c3ldustin: what are you looking for?01:15
hiexpook01:15
picard1421but im getting an error that i cant figure out..01:15
xhaneI'll just clarify something, so I might regret saying this, I'm just 14, and I'm pretty sure some of the members here are around that age as well01:15
picard1421i compiled openCV-2.0.0 on my other machine with exact same setup im compiling openCV-1.0.0 on this one.. idk why its not working??01:15
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hotfloppyhello guys.. is it possible to show *** character when sudo'ing on terminal ?01:16
c3lhow does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is run?01:16
shurathingxhane: go to Synaptic Package Manager and search for Backported drivers for alsa-driver01:16
Phluffyeh Xhane, i first used it a few years ago when I was 14 :p01:16
eliezerhow can i remove evolution with out having system troubles01:16
eliezeri have make a mistake01:17
xhanePhluffy: Highfive? :)01:17
SoldOutxhane: you dont need to justify youself to anyone01:17
dustini was told to do so , the wine channal, for i can tether with my blackberry, having a hard time01:17
shurathingxhane: WAIT01:17
eliezerand have to reinstall  ubuntu again01:17
Phluffyxhane ^5 :D01:17
headkase314xhane: Did you go to System > Administration > Hardware drivers - to see if your hardware has a proprietary driver there?  Need to have Internet to do so, plug in a wire for that and run Update Manager at least once and check for updates before running Hardware Drivers.01:17
dustinc3l,01:17
shurathingxhane: wrong one... Backported wireless drivers for generic..... make sure its the wireless01:17
xhaneWhat do you mean shurathing?01:18
dustinc3l,i was told to do so , the wine channal, for i can tether with my blackberry, having a hard time01:18
eliezerhow to unistall evolution ??01:18
xhaneheadkase314, I don't have a Wired Connection01:18
xhane=\01:18
th0reliezer: just mark it for removal in synaptic01:18
headkase314xhane: the laptop has no ethernet plug at all??01:18
shurathingxhane: Synaptic Package Manager... under System01:18
eliezeri did before01:19
xhaneheadkase314, it does, it's just that I don't have a wired connection01:19
eliezerand have completeley destroy my system01:19
c3ldustin: told to do waht? im sorry if I missed what you said, this channel can be cluttered01:19
eliezerapps where unistall01:19
xhaneshurathing, I know that, but what did you mean by Wireless?01:19
eliezermenu as crazy,,a bunch of stuff missing01:19
c3lhow does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is runned?01:19
shurathingxhane: Backported wireless drivers for lucid01:19
headkase314xhane: that may complicate getting required software, I'll let you get back to shurathing now.01:19
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eliezerincluding update manager and software apps to install apps01:19
eliezereverything was gone01:20
yur4sudo apt-get install01:20
eliezerhave to install ubuntu again01:20
yur4good01:20
xhaneshurathing: I'm at Sypnatic Package Manager, what's the next step?01:20
xhaneI apologise for being such a pain :(01:20
shurathingxhane: are you connect to the net some way?01:21
xhaneNo01:21
yur4lol01:21
xhaneI have no connection what so ever01:21
yur4=))01:21
shurathingxhane: dude... how are you chatting?01:21
Phluffyer... xhane... than how are you here?01:21
iBallbaghi all, can someone teach me how to supress the authentication popup in ubuntu 10.04 32bit?01:21
xhaneshurathing: I'm using my family computer to do so01:21
shurathingiBallbag: authentication popup?01:21
yur4edit preference01:21
shurathingxhane: and you have no ethernet port on the ubuntu machine?01:22
hotfloppysory for repeating.. but just need a 'yes' or 'no' answer.. -> hello guys.. is it possible to show *** character when sudo'ing on terminal ?01:22
yur4rep02.,.:D01:22
xhaneshurathing: I do, but I don't have a Wired connection01:22
iBallbagyes. every time i do anything i have to enter my pass in an auth popup01:22
yur4sudo apt-get install wine01:22
yur4sudo su /sudo -i01:22
shurathingxhane: so you CAN connect to the net from the ubuntu comp?01:22
shurathingxhane: just not wireless?01:23
xhaneshurathing: I only have a Mobile Broadband and to use wireless, I set up an AdHoc network01:23
digitalfizanybody here know much about the ubuntu license? like can you sell an "appliance" with ubuntu on it?01:23
dustincan i get help tethering my blackberry 8130?01:23
irssi2you might be able to use wireless01:23
yur4sett synaotic to local repo01:23
xhaneshurathing: I only have a Mobile Broadband and to use wireless, I set up an AdHoc network01:23
yur4no problem01:23
yur4:)01:23
shurathingxhane: no ethernet port on the comp?01:23
yur4sudo apt-get01:23
xhaneshurathing: I do01:24
picard1421anyone know how to install opencv on ubuntu01:24
picard1421i need version 1.0.0 not 2.0.0 i can install 2 but not 1.. need a guide or some help with 1.0.001:24
shurathingxhane: can you take an ethernet cable and connect it to the router and get a connection?01:24
hotfloppyxhane: then, plug in the ethernet cable and dial to your ISP..01:24
picard1421here is my error i get when trying to compile 101:24
picard1421http://pastebin.com/c5Va7nSY01:24
headkase314xhane: you need a ethernet cable to go from your Internet source to the ethernet plug on your Ubuntu laptop.  To get the software from the internet to get the wireless working.  Then you don't need the wire anymore.01:24
xhanehotfloppy: Like I told shurathing before, I don't have a wired connection, meaning, I don't have Broadband01:25
MaRk-Ixhane: setup this computer you're using to "share internet" connect your ubuntu one to it and make updates and see if you can fix your wireless then you can undo the share connection01:25
shurathinganyone know why I can't connect via Putty to my ssh Mac at home? I'm at Starbucks trying it out for the first time.01:25
xhaneshurathing: I'll try that.01:25
xhaneshurathing: Using Putty?01:25
marca311@hiexpo sorry about the delay, i had to go pack01:25
[thor]is there a means to set processor affinity for specific applications? running 10.04 on a i701:25
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shurathingxhane: that was my question... putty wasn't for you01:26
marca311@hiexpo the computer is very good quality too01:26
shurathingxhane: i've issues too :)01:26
marca311@hiexpo it should last a long time01:26
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headkase314surathing: Think the Starbuck's Access Point is blocking the ports?01:27
shurathingxhane: if your computer has ethernet, you should be able to connect it to the router and in the wired prefs enter the account info to access the net.01:27
xhaneshurathing: I01:27
Ritzim trying to do a shell   IF then    IF $varaible Contains Text 10 Then01:27
shurathingheadkase314: didn't think of that. So I'd have to set putty to use some other port other than 22?01:27
Ritzits actaully an IP address01:27
Ritzthat starts with 10.01:27
xhaneshurathing: I'm connected to a Mobile Broadband, I don't have a Broadband using a wired modem01:28
headkase314shurathing: I don't know what to do, maybe *if* that is the issue someone can help you route around it?01:28
shurathingheadkase314: kk... I'll keep that in mind when looking for answers.. Thanks01:28
headkase314shurathing: You're welcome ;)01:29
yakubi just installed 32 bit lucid lynx on an Asus UL80J . it has 4 gigs of memory , windows sees 4 gigs .  ubuntu only sees 2.7 gigs.  what am i doing wrong ?01:29
shurathingxhane: mobile broadband... you mean wireless as in cell phone?01:29
xhaneshurathing: You know those new USB Mobile Broadband?01:30
shurathingxhane: no01:30
xhaneWhere it uses a modem in the form of a USB01:30
xhaneHmm01:30
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xhaneWait01:30
headkase314xhane: You need Internet access somehow on the Ubuntu machine.  Do you have a home router you can plug a cable into?  When you say "mobile broadband" what kind of connection is that?  For the family computer you're using right now, is it connected with an ethernet cord?  One you could unplug from it and plug into your laptop for the temporary step to get your wireless drivers?01:30
headkase314xhane: Ok, I see USB.  I don't know how to approach that, sorry.01:31
xhaneheadkase314 and shurathing: http://www.google.com.au/images?rlz=1C1_____enAU336AU336&q=USB%20Mobile%20Broadband&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=70701:31
iBallbaghas anyone got a clue how to supress the auth popup in ubuntu 10.04?01:31
xhaneheadkase314: I have a modem router, could I set up a connection on this computer that can utilise my Mobile Broadband connection to use on the Ubuntu to get the required files?01:32
shurathingxhane: that uses cell towers?01:32
xhaneshurathing: Yes it does01:32
xhaneI works like a Mobile Phone01:32
shurathingiBallbag: you mean the log in screen?01:32
xhaneIt works like a Mobile Phone*01:32
headkase314xhane: If the modem router has ethernet ports on the back of it then you just need an ethernet cable.  Keep fingers-crossed while you check.01:32
shurathingxhane: dude... sorry. I really didn't know that and I know nothing of that hardware01:32
shurathingheadkase314: no... he connects to the cell towers with a dongle usb thing.01:33
iBallbagno shurathing, the auth popup like when you install an app in synaptic01:33
shurathingiBallbag: you mean you don't want confermation screens when installing?01:33
iBallbagcorrect01:34
iBallbagnon whatsoever01:34
headkase314xhane: Looks like you need to take the laptop somewhere where you can get an ethernet cable.  A local library or school may cooperate.  Once you do that, hit update manager and check for updates at least once then run Hardware Drivers and hopefully your wireless drivers will be there and you just need to click activate.  Then you don't need any more cables, you're wireless from there.01:34
ZykoticK9yakub, research PAE kernel (32bit with extended memory support)01:34
xhaneheadkase314: Couldn't I just set up a This Laptop -> Router -> My Laptop kind of connection?01:35
headkase314xhane: If the router only offers a USB connection or wireless then neither is really suitable.  You need drivers for both, it is a chicken-and-egg problem: you need Interet to get the drivers for wireless internet.01:36
shurathingiBallbag: sorry... I don't know a way around that01:36
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shurathingxhane: dude.. good luck in getting your drivers. I gotta head out.01:37
iBallbagok thankyou shurathing. it looks like i may be stuck with it...01:37
xhaneheadkase314: Sorry to sound rude, but I have a normal DLink Router, and I have a USB Mobile Broadband, 2 very different things.01:37
xhaneshurathing: Thank you for attempting to help me! :)01:37
shurathingheadkase314: I checked the net and starbucks DOES block port 22... thanks for the info. Heading home to fix that. :)01:37
headkase314xhane: Ok, can you plug your laptop into the d-link for Internet?01:37
xhaneNo01:38
iBallbagi cant find anything anywhere either. i thought it was me being blind01:38
headkase314shurathing: At least you know what it is!01:38
xhaneheadkase314: I don't have a broadband connection01:38
xhaneThat uses modems01:38
headkase314xhane: you need to get Internet to the ethernet plug on your Ubuntu laptop.  Once you have that then it should be easy from there.01:39
josephseraoshit there01:39
josephseraoshi there01:39
MaRk-Ixhane: set this computer to share internet and connect the ubuntu pc to this one01:39
xhaneMaRk-I: I'm trying right now, thank you01:39
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Todd_hi all.  Anyone know how to reinstall ethernet drivers from the command line?01:40
ZykoticK9Todd_, most "ethernet" drivers are in the kernel.  what are you trying to do?  you can use ifconfig to configure an ethernet card from cli.01:41
iBallbagnot me todd. im a noob too01:41
Todd_I installed Uguntu server and then the mother board failed so I had to replace the motherboard and now Ubuntu does not connect to the internet.01:41
Todd_When I run lspci it has two network cards.  when I cat 70-persisten-net.rules it ahs 4 lines.01:42
Todd_ifconfig does not display the network cards.01:43
kantlivelong1anyone know why my clock keeps moving one item to the left on boot?01:43
josephseraos_hi01:43
Todd_Zy when I went to the ethernet manufacture web site they said the drivers were in the kernel as well.01:44
leftoverpizzajosephseraos_: Hi.01:44
* leftoverpizza wants some josephseraos_ 01:44
dustindoes anyone know how to tether with a blackberyy 8130,and get the desktop software to install, using wine?01:44
Todd_How do i get the kernel to reinstall the drivers?01:44
ZykoticK9Todd_, could you pastebin the output of "lspci | grep Ethernet"01:44
leftoverpizzaTo01:44
dustindoes anyone know how to tether with a blackberyy 8130,and get the desktop software to install, using wine?01:46
josephseraos_hi01:46
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ZykoticK9dustin, i don't believe wine by default supports USB devices (i could be wrong) - good luck.01:46
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Todd_Ok the results show 02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C* (rev 10)01:47
Todd_This line is show twice.01:47
* uRock Thinks Ubuntu is great.01:47
Todd_Well the second line actually starts with 02:0a.0  but the rest is the same.01:49
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Todd_I have two nic's, one integrated in the mobo and one installed in a PCi slot.01:49
ZykoticK9Todd_, you might want to see if this applies (looks like you have an "odd" ethernet controller there) http://www.question-defense.com/2010/06/03/ubuntu-10-4-eth0-not-available-rtl-81398139c8139c-rev-1001:49
Phantom-Xhello01:49
Phantom-Xseriously.. who ever works seriously with gnome shell environment ?01:50
blitzocan someone tell me how to select the version of java that will be used by default01:51
Phantom-Xi mean the UI is bloat for the eyes.. graphical nonsense for the feel of "wow"01:51
uRockI've tried using the gnome-shell and it wasn't 4 me01:51
ZykoticK9!ot | Phantom-X01:51
ubottuPhantom-X: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!01:51
bazhangPhantom-X, an ubuntu support question in there?01:51
Phantom-Xif you measure the task load index for this... its much higher than i should be.. so its not pragmatic to work with for long times01:51
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hormonxhello ... i hope someone can help me out ...01:52
Phantom-Xhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MkBSF4I5lw01:52
Phantom-Xthis is why i talk about it here01:52
blitzocan someone tell me how to select the version of java that will be used by default01:52
Todd_Zy thanks for the link.  I'll give that a try and see if this is the same issue.01:52
Phantom-Xsince ubnuntu supports that nonsense bbloat system01:52
essialHey guys, On disk usage analyzer it shows 100% usage at ~01:52
uRock!hi | hormonx01:52
ubottuhormonx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!01:52
ZykoticK9!tab > Todd_01:52
essialeven though I have 1,200gb free01:52
ubottuTodd_, please see my private message01:52
essialideas?01:52
IdleOnePhantom-X: if you feel like blogging there are better forums. This is for ubuntu support not ranting01:52
bazhangPhantom-X, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic01:52
headkase314Phantom-X: Here to troll?01:52
uRock!troll01:53
ubottutrolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel01:53
essialI have a 6.2gb .vmx (virtual box hard disk) file that that seems to use 100% of "/hard disks"01:53
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essialI really don't know what's going on here >.<01:53
bazhanguRock, headkase314 thats not called for01:53
hormonxis it possible to give access to a 'www' share to other network computers ?01:53
blitzojava ques: how do i select the the version that will be used by default?01:54
essialactually says 631gb free space01:54
jrib!multijava | blitzo01:54
ubottublitzo: To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives01:54
Four2zero||MW2whats the best way to connect ubuntu 10.4 to windows network ?01:55
IdleOne!samba01:55
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:55
mathkFour2zero||MW2: connect is a bit vague01:56
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essialhttp://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6708/wthw.png01:57
essialthat's the problem01:57
hormonxis it possible to give access to a 'www' share to other network computers ? getting access denied error01:57
Four2zero||MW2mathk, im trying to connect to windows network xp and seven, I do see under <places> and Network > Windows Network01:57
Four2zero||MW2but when i double click onto it nothing happens accept for the box Opening Windows Network01:57
zealiodI'm using a ubuntu box as a NAS (with 2 NICs )and PROXY and I'd like to sniff ethernet packets on the network and rea their 802.11q VLAN tag - is this possible?01:57
headkase314Four2zero||MW2: I know Windows 7 changed shares a bit.  There is a setting you have to change under 7 for Samba to successfully connect.  I don't recall what it is just it has something to do with encryption.01:58
stratagem_botI have a JFS partition with 433859420 kilobytes total disk space and jfs_fsck claims I have 399668842 kilobytes in 211292 user files... But when I look the total folder sizes in thunar or with kdirstat, I'm only seeing about 59813 items totally 233.2GB (244527923 kilobytes).  WTF?01:58
nibsa1242Hello. I'm having issues with 10.04 installing to a software raid 1. Installiation fails during the select and install software steps.01:59
stratagem_bottotalling..01:59
Four2zero||MW2and what about xp shares ?01:59
headkase314Four2zero||MW2: As far as xp shares go you should be good - unless the 7 shares are interfering somehow?01:59
Mahjongghi, what is the difference between storing and sync'ing a file/folder on UbuntuOne?02:00
uRockWhich is better, filezilla or samba for multi os networks?02:00
uRockMahjongg, wouldn't syncing be like having a live folder?02:01
uRockI don't know much about it02:02
MahjongguRock, what is a live folder?02:02
hooberhey guys02:02
nibsa1242Can anyone help with install issue -> new box, using alternate install CD, can't seem to finish select and install software step on Software Raid 1.02:02
essialheh / usage, 100%02:02
essialfree space: 1,626.9GB02:02
hooberhow do i develop windows 7 64bit drivers on ubuntu? and i want to do masm32 programming on ubuntu just to be safe02:02
essialSo EXT3 freaks out when < 1.2 terabytes of hard disk space are left? :p02:03
uRockI would guess it would be like having a folder that automatically uplods and downloads when you add or take away02:03
essialhoober: HEH02:03
hoober?02:03
headkase314hoober: you have to be kidding.02:03
essialI hope so too02:03
hooberthis is the way to do it i read02:03
RolotonyHello, Having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it runs Windows XP like a champ, I installed Badger, it worked liked a champ, then I go to install Ubuntu 10 and it get i/o errors02:03
uRockessial, EXT4 is better for large files02:03
essialusing a microsoft assembler writing non-portable code on a portable OS02:03
Four2zero||MW2well im able to connect to my ftp server via firefox.02:03
essialuRock: I'm not changing filesystems with 1tb+ of medical records stored02:04
hooberbut why not02:04
essialthe server was set up before ext4 was stabilized02:04
uRockUnderstoodable02:04
essialbut how do I have 100% usage on / yet have 1.3tb free hard drive space02:04
Rolotonyanyone?02:04
mathkhoober: why would someone do such a weird things :)02:05
hooberI have lots of ram if that matters02:05
jasonwryannibsa1242: why not? what prevents you?02:05
uRockthat is beyond me02:05
hoobermathk, to be safe02:05
th0ressial: how much free space on the partition that contains /02:05
smackmanicis there a lighter version of the livedisk...im using an ancient machine and for the life of me can't free up enough space to download the liveusb02:05
mathkhoober: what do you mean by safe ?02:05
hooberUbuntu is stable place for the development i want to do02:05
essialit LOOKS like its simply not updating02:05
smackmanic(can't get ubuntu running, won't mount it for some reason...so i need something that will allow me to sudo-apt and what not)02:05
essialI dropped 400gb worth of old backups02:05
esfahankidshi02:05
headkase314hoober: for Windows 7 drivers you need a 7 environment to run them in.  You also need to disable driver signatures as those are enforced by Windows 7.  If you want to learn 7 drivers, ubuntu is not the operating system for you.  A virtual machine would be one way to go about it but virtual machines typically only emulate a 32 bit environment.  Short answer: Ubuntu is not suitable for Windows 7 64-bit driver develop02:06
smackmanichappened after i updated02:06
nibsa1242jasonwryan the install just says that it fails, doesn't give a reason, and then it locks up; its stopped at 70% and 10%; I already checked the disk for errors02:06
bazhangsmackmanic, lubuntu? gnome/ubuntu live cd is a bit less than 700MB02:06
bradyhello everyone02:06
esfahankidshow i can install .tar.gz file in ubuntu?02:06
bradyanyone in here able to navigate their iphone well in ubuntu?02:06
bazhangsmackmanic, or you could get the 12MB minimal iso and build from there02:06
uRockesfahankids, what kind of program is it?02:06
esfahankidsempathy02:06
arand!compile | esfahankids02:06
ubottuesfahankids: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)02:06
jasonwryannibsa1242: weird. setting up raid all went smoothly?02:06
bazhang!minimal > smackmanic02:07
ubottusmackmanic, please see my private message02:07
essialor does disk usage = percent of disk data on a particular path02:07
smackmanicbazhang: i can sudo apt and what not with the min?02:07
smackmanicokay02:07
esfahankidstahnks02:07
bazhangsmackmanic, yep of course02:07
essiallike if 90% of my data storage files are in ~/mp3 would it show ~/mp3 at 90% usage?02:07
gafirdoesn't this article sound like pure propaganda to you: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/202177/warning_five_things_to_know_before_switching_to_linux.html?tk=hp_new02:07
bazhang!ot | gafir02:08
ubottugafir: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:08
th0ressial: use 'df' to determine how much space is left for each partition02:08
nibsa1242jasonwryan raid went fine, seemed really fast though (like it isn't really formatting) I had 9.04 on her before, but the upgrade to 9.10 borked the whole system. Erased everything on drives to start over from scrach, and figured might as well use 10.0402:08
essialth0r: sudo df / says 2% used02:08
smackmanicbazhang: one more question....i can follow the instructions to boot it from a usb device instead of a cd ? or is the .iso specifically designed for cds..02:08
bradyanyone help with iphone support?02:09
th0ressial: is that the only partition you have?02:09
gafirbazhang: thx02:09
pieso i think gnome just restarted and im like wtf...and now my screen resolution is smaller...02:09
bazhangsmackmanic, the lubuntu iso? try unetbootin to write to flash key02:09
jasonwryannibsa1242: I'm afraid all I've got is dwonload & burn a new disk...02:09
uRock!details | brady02:09
ubottubrady: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:09
Ivanchoe_e02:09
pieim on ubuntu 9.1002:09
essialth0r: I have three disks, one mounted at /, and two maounted at /storage/disk#02:09
pieand this has happened before, without the resolution problem02:09
nibsa1242jasonwryan: I'm trying that now. Stupid laptop won't burn slower than 10x. If this cd doesn't work I'll try buring the image onto a DVD02:10
smackmanicsorry bazhang let me look that up...i haven't slept in a couple days02:10
bradyWell running ubuntu 10.04, iphone 3gs.  I was wanting to know if there was any solution for syncing contacts and calender from email program02:10
uRock!iphone02:10
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod02:10
essialth0r: disk0 says 3% and disk1 says 63% which makes a LOT more sense02:10
pieand also all my programs closed, whick is probably because gnome restarted02:10
bazhangsmackmanic, you running ubuntu now? or windows02:10
th0rwhat is telling you 100% usage?02:10
essialso WTH is disk usage showing, pure usage02:10
jasonwryannibsa1242: The other thing you can try is to switch to TTY4 when it fails to read the error02:10
essialDisk usage -- hence my question, is taht total usage or relative usage02:10
hooberback sorry i made a tuna-egg sandwhich02:10
bazhangsmackmanic, unetbootin is in the repos, for windows its at unetbootin.sourceforge.net02:10
pieand i really need to get this fixed ASAP :(02:10
uRockhoober, that is gross02:11
essialI was getting out of space errors and dumped about a year's worth of backups, I believe that fixed the problem, it's just that 100% on / looks scary in DUA02:11
nibsa1242jasonwryan: that would be (some key + f4)?02:11
th0ressial: what 'disk usage'? are you using the 'du' command? or getting this from some gnome app?02:11
smackmanicbazhang: im in the windows partition, it drops me straight to busybox when i allow ubuntu to attempt to start up02:11
StrangeCharmafter a reboot, the network manager applet is missing from my tray. how can i make it come back?02:11
essialthe Disk Usage Analyzer app02:11
essialdu's output makes sense02:11
jasonwryannibsa1242: Ctrl-Alt-F402:11
smackmanicbazhang: okay unet is the tool that will make that min iso work on the usb02:11
nibsa1242jasonwryan: thanks, I'll take a look at it02:11
smackmanicif I understand correctly now02:11
mathkhoober: you can use a VM for what you call safety02:11
picard1421is it better to make a liveCD of something or to install to it.. what i mean is ... like for Ubuntu.. is it better to like do a normal install and just choose my flash drive as the "disk" or do i need to make a live cd.. whats the pros/ cons of htis?02:11
GeneralSaintI am having a problem with wget, ubuntu 10.4 lamp 32 bit, Wget is an unknown command. Im quite the n00b at linux so go easy on me :-)02:11
hooberthis is sad02:11
hooberI REALLY REAlly wanted to use a Ubuntu to App to do this work02:12
jasonwryannibsa1242: if it doesn't show in 4, check 2-6 as well (it's been a while since I did an install)02:12
piesomeone please help me out :(02:12
bazhangsmackmanic, minimal iso? never known it to do that, I was referring to lubuntu iso minimal still requires a cd to boot afaik02:12
th0ressial: that is probably a problem with the app. I don't use gnome so I can't help with that. If 'df' shows enough space I wouldn't worry about it02:12
essialAH geese02:12
uRockhoober, I use VBox to run other OSes when I need to get something done02:12
essialth0r: yeah apparently "usage" is relative in DUA02:12
Mr_Sonomapie, what's the issue?02:12
essialand du looks exactly as I expected02:12
essialth0r: thanks, you made a sysadmin happy :)02:13
smackmanicbazhang: ouch...you're saying I can't use a usb device to....basically sudo apt grub...or figure out whats going on with my OS02:13
nibsa1242jasonwryan: ok, thanks; I hate installing, but my experience is that an upgrade has a 50% chance of borking the whole system... and normally I find it easier to just reinstall than rescue the upgrade02:13
essialthat's what i get for looking at GUI tools FOR ONCe02:13
hooberI have Virtual Box, and my Ubuntu is in the Virtual Box. Can i develop in masm32 and make windows 7 drivers in it02:13
essialI'll just stick to ssh :p02:13
mathkGeneralSaint: aptitude search wget02:13
bazhangsmackmanic, why not fix your current situation instead of reinstalling a new system02:13
extraclassichi...I'm trying to configure lamp in Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm not sure the packages installed right02:13
smackmanicbazhang: i'm not trying to reinstall the OS02:13
jasonwryannibsa1242: I've had good experiences upgrading my Raid1 setup (aprt from KMS)02:13
smackmanicbazhang: just trying to figure out what the h is up with it. heh02:13
mathkhoober: you may do the other way round02:14
bazhangsmackmanic, checked in grub menu? hold shift at boot02:14
smackmanicgoogled all night...people are having the same or similar prob...but i can't find a proper solution heh02:14
essialextraclassic: uh... sudo tasksel install lamp-server02:14
mathkubuntu hosting a windows02:14
essialdone02:14
hooberbut i have Windows 7 as a host OS. I don't see why doing it the other way around is helpful02:14
* essial huggles ubuntu02:14
GeneralSaintmathk, aptitude command not found :o02:14
nibsa1242jasonwryan: its not just this system... I have about a 50% chance of upgrade killing any system (home file server, personal laptop, other half's lappy, dual boot gaming box)02:15
solid_liqhoober, why do you need asm to develop a device driver?02:15
essialcnf wget   oh wait :)02:15
extraclassicI was trying to get php to work with mysql and the mysql_connect() wasn't working....I edited my php.ini file and it still won't work02:15
Mahjongghi, what is the difference between storing and sync'ing a file/folder on UbuntuOne?02:15
uRockhoober, you can do anything you want within the vbox, but the vbox doesn't work the same with your hardware when it comes to drivers02:15
bazhang!ubuntuone | Mahjongg02:15
essialhoober: Linux is multi-arch02:15
ubottuMahjongg: Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone02:15
mathkGeneralSaint: apt-cache search wget02:15
KwikkSilvahi all02:15
extraclassicsomeone said that my mysql.so file was in the wrong place02:15
jasonwryannibsa1242: Man, that is some risk profile you are carrying there :)02:15
essialhoober: writing it in assembler is kinda... a bad idea02:15
hooberOk All I want is to know where to download the Windows 7 64 bit Driver dev kit, within the Ubuntu Software Center. And possibly how to find a MASM32 dev kit in the software center02:15
bazhanghoober, no02:15
essial............02:15
GeneralSaintOh apt did work, thanks !02:16
essialhoober: what are you talkinga bout02:16
KwikkSilvaI need to mess with some network settings on 10.04 LTS - In the Network Applet i don't see anywhere to change the broadcast address of an interface?02:16
essialhoober: Why would Linux have a Windows driver dev kit, that makes absolutely no sense02:16
castnibsa1242: wow. considered an OS with a safer upgrade mechanism?02:16
bazhanghoober, ##windows for developing windows drivers NOT here02:16
uRockhoober, there is a search function in USC02:16
klappiextraclassic: i was wrong02:16
hooberEssial, because developing on ubuntu for windows is different thant developing on windows for windows02:16
bazhanghoober, please stop02:16
essialhoober: well good luck with that02:16
hooberi am trying to listen02:16
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hoobershould i contact support?02:16
essialnot really hoober, have you ever written device drivers?02:17
bazhanghoober, developing windows drivers has nothing to do with ubuntu02:17
essialI mean real device drivers, not serial port or parallel port stuff02:17
nibsa1242cast: I have, but other half likes Ubuntu, and doesn't want anything else on her lappy. So, if I migrate to something else on the other machines then I have to know both Ubuntu and the other distro.02:17
uRockhoober, we understand you want to turn windows drivers into linux compatible drivers02:17
hooberessial, i actually haven't written a device driver ever, this is why i want to try. but safe under Ubuntu02:17
essialhoober: what you're asking makes NO sense02:17
albert105129What's new?02:17
essialhoober: You are failing at some VERY basic concepts here02:17
bazhang!ot > hoober02:17
ubottuhoober, please see my private message02:17
albert105129quit02:17
uRockit is just not something that many people do, so finding help with it is a bit harder02:17
nibsa1242cast: jasonwryan so instead, I just partition /home out by itself and back everything up... and only upgrade when I have a spare weekend02:17
essialhoober: drivers are intrisicly tied to the OS02:17
essialhoober: why do you think XP drivers for WINDOWS doesn't work with vista drivers for WINDOWS02:18
hoobercan't i just drag and drop them into shared folder for testing on windwos 702:18
castnibsa1242: maybe lvm snapshots would help you02:18
* essial facepalms02:18
* essial gives up02:18
KwikkSilvaeeek02:18
nibsa1242cast: I know practically nothing about lvm, other then I'm going to try it out with this new install.02:18
mathkhoober: again what do you mean by safe, think of it twice before answer02:18
stratshello all, I would like to know if anyone could direct me somewhere I could find some information (a website, A book, whatever) on how to customize my desktop02:18
headkase314hoober: the development environment needs to match the target.  You will not find Ubuntu tools that target Windows 7.  Google some Windows tools and you'll find plenty.02:18
jasonwryannibsa1242: Installing all the other stuff sucks though... (at least it does on my bandwidth)02:18
uRockmathk, hoober's gone02:19
smackmanicbrb02:19
mathkuRock: right :) thanks bazhang02:19
stratshello all, I would like to know if anyone could direct me somewhere I could find some information (a website, A book, whatever) on how to customize my desktop, preferably Gnome and XFCE02:19
bazhang!themes > strats02:20
ubottustrats, please see my private message02:20
castnibsa1242: learning, it's fun!02:20
nibsa1242jasonwryan: yes, it does suck... which is why I use the spare weekend, incase I just need to rescue the install - which is very fun & educational the first time, and very annoying after that02:20
uRockbazhang, I like the use of ">" I didn't know ubottu does that02:20
bazhanguRock, its very handy to avoid flooding the channel02:21
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mathk!help > mathk02:21
ubottumathk, please see my private message02:21
KwikkSilvaguys - can i set up like, a broadcast address int eh network applet in 10.0402:21
mathkhelp02:21
bazhangyou can also /msg ubottu factoid for more02:21
KwikkSilvafor any of my interfaces.. i dont see it02:22
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uRockI'll give it a try02:22
Furtanohi02:23
AbaraticanI have an ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 server install in a vm, and I don't have ubuntu desktop installed (and I don't want it)... I use an external X server for my GUI applications, but I can't get my clearlooks theme to work on them.  However, if in the VM i run "gnome-appearance-properties", as soon as that window opens, all my external X windows immediately start to use clearlooks and remain using it until I reboot... any idea what 02:24
mathkKwikkSilva: isn't that the netmask and your ip adresse gave you the broadcast02:24
madampshey #ubuntu, i downloaded the latest version of ubuntu and burned it on a cd. i haven't installed it yet. i want to install linux mint instead. is it possible to isntall ubuntu and then install to mint, or should i just download mint and install it fresh?02:24
SchmittyI am having trouble installing kubuntu on my IBM 5120. It's a bit dated but it's a solid system.02:24
essialShmitty how much ram does it have02:25
mathkKwikkSilva: you shouldn't have to set it up02:25
Schmittyessial: 32002:25
KwikkSilvahmm - not sure - i'm trying to follow a guide on arp setup and it asks me to give some pretty wierd BC address to my cards02:25
Schmittyessial: thats 320k02:25
stratsmadamps you could do it but is it worth time and effort? I don't think so02:25
w1n5tonHow do I set up a workgroup for 2 ubuntu machines?02:25
essialschmitty: HAAHHAH02:25
headkase314!themes > headkase31402:25
ubottuheadkase314, please see my private message02:25
essialschmitty: never gonna happen man, try xfce02:25
Schmittyessial: lol02:25
xhaneheadkase314: On my Ubuntu now02:26
xhaneUsing the USB Modem02:26
essialschmitty: You need at least 1 gig to run properly, thats 1,024 megs02:26
madampsstrats so i should juist download and go fresh? my roommates playing warcraft 3 on battle net so i can't saturate the internet with torrents. i guess i'll go direct download now. thanks for the wisdom02:26
Schmittyessial: google the IBM 5120 and checkout what it looks like02:26
essialdoesn't matter02:26
Furtanohow can i make my softwre setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh02:26
headkase314xhane: Good, run update manager and check for updates install all it offers02:26
essialif you don't have enough ram you don't have enough ram02:26
w1n5tonIs there a way other than SSH?02:26
nibsa1242cast: jasonwryan Any idea how long is normal for 1TB of Raid 1 to format a partition?02:27
Annieok... Traveling out of the states. Need to know a good port to ssh through. 22 is blocked by Starbucks and I don't want to be screwed when I'm overseas.02:27
Schmittyessial: this is a joke...............02:27
castnibsa1242: depends on the filesystem, ext3 is very slow02:27
headkase314xhane: you'll probably have to reboot because there will be a kernel update in there.  Once you do come back to this channel.02:27
stratsschmitty you should five a try to minix02:27
nibsa1242cast: I'm doing ext4...02:27
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mathkw1n5ton: why not ssh?02:29
Furtanohow can i make my Ubuntu setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh02:29
nibsa1242cast: jasonwryan it is just sitting at 33%, but at least it seems to be doing something this time; last time it said the partition formatted in about 30 seconds, and then it went on with the install. I actually hear my hard drive doing something.02:29
w1n5tonHow do I set it up so it will be accessible under Network?02:29
nibsa1242cast: I take that back; the install in now continuing. So according to the installer it must be done... because it is just continuing on02:30
Todd_Zy looked close but tried the solution there and not working for me.  When I run the mii command to force the speed I get error. Invalid argument.02:30
mbeierlI've got a good burn of a lucid cd, but on one computer only, I keep getting an "error reading disk" with error code 8042009 in the upper left corner.  anyone know what that is?02:30
mathkCan you say what do you mean by workgroup, what would you like to be?02:31
AnnieNeed to know a good port to ssh through. 22 is blocked by Starbucks and I don't want to be screwed when I'm overseas.02:31
castAnnie: 8002:31
castAnnie: 53 might be good, too02:31
mathkw1n5ton: see my previous log02:31
xhanembeierl02:31
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BentFranklinDoing a new Kubuntu 10.4.  At the partition screen.  The default is one big partition (plus swap but they don't even show that).  I want to put home and maybe var on their own partitions so it one bloats I can still boot.  Is that old-fashioned?02:31
bazhang!home > BentFranklin02:31
ubottuBentFranklin, please see my private message02:31
w1n5tonShare folders and files between them02:31
Todd_I might just try a different nic card tomorrow and see how that goes.  Thanks for the help.02:32
bazhangBentFranklin, no its an excellent idea, at least home02:32
mbeierlcast: Annie: you could also try using 443.  if the isp wants to inspect the traffic, they'll at least see ssl traffic02:32
xhanembeierl: The disc might be scractched?02:32
xhanescratched*02:32
Anniecast: Thank you... I'll check those out02:32
SchmittyI just bought a new laptop, a Zenith MiniSport for 3 grand, I was told it was cutting edge technology, I need someone to help me install ubuntu on it02:32
nibsa1242BentFranklin: no, it is not old fashioned. I say do it. I've had issued with a bloated var causing a no boot. You may also want /boot on its own issue.02:32
castmbeierl: they wont see ssl traffic.02:32
shreymechhi all02:32
mbeierlxhane: and the one computer more sensitive?02:32
SubCoolCould someone help me trouble shoot a script for my vncserver? i followed the directions, also got help from someone here, but we are baffled. I site i am referring off of is http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/ and the error im coming up with is. Command not found. The line that is causing this error is OPTIONS=”-name ${NAME} -depth ${DEPTH} -geometry ${GEOMETRY} :${DISPLAY}”02:32
Anniecast: I figured there was a reason 22 was blocked... if I need to appease the isp I'll do that no problem02:32
mbeierlcast: no?  ssh over 443 won't show the same as ssl?02:32
shreymechhow can crearte the backup copy of my old kernel image ...??02:32
headkase314mbeierl: maybe the one computer needs to have a cleaning disc run in it?02:32
castmbeierl: nope.02:33
SchmittyI just bought a new laptop, a Zenith MiniSport for 3 grand, I was told it was cutting edge technology, I need someone to help me install suse on it02:33
crittI have ubuntu 10.04 . I just installed Kubuntu on a second partition. Now Kubuntu partition has the bootloader on it. Is there an easy way to un-install Kubuntu's partition and not mess up My Ubuntu from loading?02:33
SuNk8guys, my dpkg is stuck. I tried to install flashplugin-installer thro the flash ppa and it didn't work out. when i run dpkg --configure -a, it gets stuck at HTTP awating response. Reboot, no go. Any suggestions?02:33
mbeierlheadkase314: I actually did try a different dvd/cd reader in the computer and got the same error... thanks, I'll try a reburn at lower speed, or another disk02:33
bazhangSchmitty, #suse02:33
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w1n5tonLike a windows-style network connection02:34
mbeierlxhane: thanks. I'll be trying another disk - might be sensitive to defects. who knows?02:34
Jordan_USuNk8: For now do you want to get the flash plugin working or just quickly get dpkg working again?02:34
nibsa1242mbeier you may also consider using a DVD instead of CD to burn; they read faster and make install happen a little quicker02:34
mathkw1n5ton: well you have nfs or smb or ssh02:34
Anniecast: thanks for your help.02:34
headkase314xhane: How is the wireless coming?02:34
mbeierlnibsa1242: can I burn the standard iso to dvd?02:34
w1n5tonhow do I set it up?02:35
SuNk8Jordan, I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)02:35
xhanembeierl: Also check that you're using the right type of media, like DVD-R, DVD + R, CD etc.02:35
Jordan_Umbeierl: Yes.02:35
mathk!nfs > w1n5ton02:35
ubottuw1n5ton, please see my private message02:35
SuNk8Jordan_U, , I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)02:35
xhaneAlso check if your reader is CD/DVD02:35
headkase314mbeierl: The install I'm using right now came from a cd .iso I burnt on a DVD...02:35
mathk!nfs > mathk02:35
ubottumathk, please see my private message02:35
xhaneI used to have that problem02:35
Anniebrb02:35
mbeierlxhane: nibsa1242L Jordan_u: thanks! will try!02:35
xhaneheadkase314: I just updated using Update Manager02:35
nibsa1242mbeierl: yes, you may burn the standard iso to dvd, but some programs don't like it (it does work though)02:36
mathk!smb > w1n5ton02:36
ubottuw1n5ton, please see my private message02:36
Jordan_Umbeierl: You're welcome.02:36
headkase314xhane: Ok, now go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers02:36
SuNk8!smb > sunk802:36
ubottuSuNk8, please see my private message02:36
w1n5tonis ubottu a bot?02:36
headkase314xhane: Hopefully your wireless will be there and you can just activate the driver.  Then unplug the wired and reboot to test.02:36
xhaneheadkase314: Now what do I do?02:36
Anniecast: by the way.. when forwarding my ports for ssh, should I choose tcp, udp or both?02:36
mathkw1n5ton: yup02:36
SuNk8w1n5ton, yup.02:36
AbaraticanI want to add a program to start when the system boots on an ubuntu 10.04 _server_ install, where would be most appropriate to add it?02:36
SuNk8lol02:36
w1n5tonhive mind02:36
GeneralSaintWhen the torrent finishes, it executes "mv -n <base_path> ~/Download/" base_path is a variable but I wouldnt exactly know what to put there02:36
SuNk8Jordan_U, Sir, I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)02:36
headkase314xhane: Ok, now go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers02:37
headkase314xhane: Hopefully your wireless will be there and you can just activate the driver.  Then unplug the wired and reboot to test.02:37
Jordan_USuNk8: "gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.postinst" Add "exit 0" on the line above "set -e".02:37
Furtanohow can i make my Ubuntu setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh02:37
mathk!factoid > w1n5ton02:38
ubottuw1n5ton, please see my private message02:38
SuNk8Jordan_U, thanks a lot... I'll do it right away... ;-)02:38
Jordan_USuNk8: You're welcome.02:38
Tohuw!clone > tohuw02:38
ubottuTohuw, please see my private message02:38
stratsanyone knows a nice, simple applet for gnome doing cpu utilization, network bandwith, logged user etc..?02:38
BentFranklinThanks, bazhang and nibsa.  Now, is the default filesystem ext4 what I want for all my partitions (except swap)?  And to I have to make swap myself since I'm going manually?02:39
Jordan_UFurtano: sudo apt-get -y install02:39
trumpeethelp getting my sound working again02:39
FurtanoJordan_U, ty great02:39
Abaratican!autorun02:39
Jordan_UFurtano: You're welcome.02:39
Abaratican(Repeating because almost surely someone should know this and I'm assuming it was overlooked) I want to add a program to start when the system boots on an ubuntu 10.04 _server_ install, where would be most appropriate to add it?02:40
AbaraticanI half expect there's a !bla for this already.02:40
mathkstrats: look at the default installed applet there is one for monitoring02:40
nibsa1242BentFranklin: I'm not qualified to answer that question -- I'm using all ext4 on one machine, and ext 3 on my dual boot box ; bazhang?02:40
xhaneheadkase314: Nothing shows up in Hardware Drivers02:40
mbeierlAbaratican: you're talking about adding something to the install cd?02:40
wedwoaba02:40
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Dr_WillisAbaratican:  dpends on what the program is doing. theres always /etc/rc.local02:41
mathkstrats: can't remember the exact name since I am not on an ubuntu right now02:41
Xaifasinstalled and configured my ssh server and i want to see if I can connect to it from the internet , can I simulate it if I ssh to another box then ssh to current one?02:41
wedwoAbaratican, check man cron and crontab02:41
bazhangBentFranklin, sure ext402:41
Dr_WillisXaifas:  yes. :)02:41
AbaraticanDr_Willis: i'm not running X, but i want gnome-settings-daemon to autostart (so my external X windows have themes)02:41
mbeierlAbaratican: if it's just a start on boot, then Dr_Willis' suggestion of rc.local is probably the best02:41
headkase314xhane: I'm at a loss without that.  Recap your situation so everyone else here in the channel knows where you are: basically, have Internet access through wired connection and need help getting wireless driver.02:41
StrangeCharmafter a reboot, the network manager applet is missing from my tray. how can i make it come back?02:41
headkase314xhane: And mention it's not in Hardware Drivers.02:41
Xaifaswell I tried, and it kinda gives no answer no error and not asking for pass to connect either02:42
Xaifasany suggestion Dr_Willis ?02:42
nibsa1242xhane what wireless card do you have?02:42
Abaraticanmbeierl: i was thinking there was some init/runlevel thing but i can't recall... rc.local works too I suppose.02:42
Dr_WillisXaifas:  try the ssh -v or -vv or -vvv option to get verbose output and messages. and check the server logs.02:42
Xaifask sec02:42
stratsmathk I know the app in the system but I want it on my desktop at all time02:43
nibsa1242whoa, random reboot during install wth02:43
xhaneI'm currently using a Mobile Broadband to connect to the internet, but I have trouble connecting wireless connections, let alone detect them.02:43
stratsmathk I want something similar to what !#crunchbang 9.04 use02:44
mbeierlAbaratican: not sure about the gnome-settings-daemon running without having a DISPLAY set, though.  It seems an odd problem in this case for rc.local - which runs as root, not your user02:44
Xaifasdebug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config02:44
Xaifasdebug1: Connecting to 89.123.41.5 [89.123.41.5] port 2502.02:44
Xaifas And it just stalls ... have to ctrl + z02:44
crittI have 2 Partitions. Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Kubuntu is set to boot first . Can I delete Kubuntu Part without screwing up My Ubuntu Part?02:44
smackmanicbazhang: i found a thread with my exact problem..i need to edit what grub is booting..apparently it's a common bug...umm..i edited it to /dev/sda1, that didnt work, then tried sda2. i'm doing something wrong...would you mind if i sent you the link or /msg you the supposed solution02:44
Xaifashmm got a connection timeout this time02:44
smackmanicif I can get it to boot..then I can fsck02:44
stratswhois strats02:44
Xaifaspossible I failed configuring the server or what could be the prob Dr_Willis ? daemon is on, port is opened, and listens dont know what im doing wrong02:45
smackmanicperhaps the ( )'s shouldn't be used... maybe just root=sda1 or root=sda2 ?02:45
smackmanicbecause the ones I tried already the ('s...so i wrote inside of them...02:45
wedwostrats is hammer02:46
smackmanic=/02:46
stratswedwo no kidding :P02:46
DavidJHeinrich1 hi all, the Amarok collection, is that an actual folder on the computer? is it possible to add files to the amarok collection while leaving their location in the same spot? also, why is trying to change the naming convention for the collections so SLOW?02:46
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critttest02:48
linuxguysit works02:49
nibsa1242if I'm having trouble installing onto a software raid 1 situation, is it possible just to install to one drive and make it a raid 1 later, or is that complex and annoying02:49
crittJust got silent02:49
Dr_WillisXaifas:  all you can do is check the logs and the 'verbose' output from ssh and see whast its saying.02:49
Schmittycan someone help me with my Kenbak-1 system?02:49
smackmanicoh no...im reading the grub page .... it says if its not ran as root it will produce bogus error msgs saying the device does not exist02:50
smackmanicthis is getting crazy02:50
Xaifasssh localhost seems to work but not from another box02:51
Xaifasbleh02:51
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  what are you doing exactly?02:51
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Dr_Willissmackmanic:  because from what ive seen you mention. you may be doing some things funamentally wrong. :)02:51
smackmanicDr_Willis: apparently i caught the update bug heh.....updated to the latest ver of ubuntu..rebooted..it wont mount it, it gives me list of errors and sends me to busybox02:51
mbeierlheadkase314: nibsa1242: still no go with the dvd.  It's got to be some problem with dvd.  I can only assume there's a problem booting off cd with that pc.  I did boot the xp install disk though, so I'm at a loss... thanks anyway02:51
smackmanicDr_Willis: I agree...02:51
crittCan someone help with a Partition question?02:52
smackmanicthe biggest problem is that I cannot use a livecd or liveusb...so I'm hoping I can edit grub and then fsck and what not to fix it02:52
bazhangcritt, please ask a question02:52
nibsa1242mbeierl: you can try a usb install02:52
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  normally grub installs to the MBR of the hard drive. But youa re setting the 'root' option? thats normally done via the UUID of teh fiklesystem not  the sda/sdb1 type nameing02:52
crittI have 2 Partitions. Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Kubuntu is set to boot first . Can I delete Kubuntu Part without screwing up My Ubuntu Part?02:52
nibsa1242mbeierl: or you can try a network install (I think Ubuntu supports that)02:52
Dr_Williscritt:  it depends on which os is contriolling grub.02:52
smackmanicDr_Willis....uhhh.....im actually pretty sure im not root when i edit02:52
bazhangcritt, why not just install kubuntu-desktop with ubuntu?02:52
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crittKubuntu is right now02:53
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  you have to be root when altering system files.. thats a given02:53
smackmanicDr_Willis: would it be okay if I sent you a link...or the cliffnote of the solution heh02:53
bazhangcritt, or ubuntu-desktop with kubuntu02:53
crittDIdnt know I could02:53
Dr_Williscritt:  you may need to reinstall grub then. You COULD boot to ubuntu now, and update-grub and in theory the UBUNTU os will be the one contriolling grub. then you can delete the kubuntu partitions02:53
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  im going to work in 3 min...02:53
smackmanicDr_Willis: this grubhowto page says if its not run as root i will get bogus error msgs...so idk.02:53
smackmanicDr_Willis...ouch02:53
chilli0Can anyone explain why sometimes my external hard drive mounts on diffrent points?02:53
bazhangcritt, sure, lubuntu-desktop , edubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop etc02:54
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  you need to run system type tools as root.. thats pretty fundamental.02:54
crittIm in Ubuntu now02:54
nibsa1242critt: you could also hand configure grub, but its been a while since I've done that02:54
smackmanicDr_Willis: the problem is i can't even sudo in busybox...02:54
chilli0Some times its /dev/sdf1 others its sdb102:54
Dr_Willissmackmanic:  in busybox you are allready root i imagine. but busybox is not the normal ubuntu installed system..02:54
bazhangcritt, then just choose which desktop from login window02:54
crittI tried to open grub but page was blank02:54
smackmanicDr_Willis....hahaha I know...02:55
smackmanic"root=/dev/sdXX somehow all this got messed up in the update."02:55
bazhangcritt, its grub2 now02:55
smackmanicthat's partially from the solution post02:55
bazhang!grub2 | critt02:55
ubottucritt: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:55
crittWell I did resize the partitions with Qpart to reclaim my space. BUt was just wondering if I could delete it all together02:56
smackmaniccritt: lol ive always been to scared to resize...my HD is failing...dont think it'd take it02:56
smackmanicim going to restart and try it again....02:58
cvnmkif i compile vanilla kernel according to my hardware, this improves performance?02:58
smackmanicbrb (HOPEFULLY)02:58
crittHave 500 gig. Had it split down the middle. My mistake . I just wanted to test out Kubuntu. Noob to the core LOL02:58
rwwcvnmk: probably not02:58
nibsa1242I know this is kinda heresy, but if I can't get this software raid-1 server install to work should I try (1) another distro or (2) is it easy to just install to one disk and raid it to the second disk later?02:58
cvnmkrww: why not?  i will remove junky modules02:58
nibsa1242cvnmk: probably not enough to see a difference, but it can be fun to do02:59
rwwcvnmk: because modules aren't loaded unless they're used, and the majority of startup time isn't spent on the kernal.02:59
rwwkernel **02:59
rwwif you have a boot time of 10 seconds and 1 second is the kernel, there's not much point in optimizing the 1 s :\03:00
cvnmkrww: i thought it provides disk speed03:01
iBallbagi solved the auth popup while doing anything problem03:02
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iBallbagsilly policykit causes it03:03
TaoI'm having problems with updates. Every time I got the terminal and input "sudo apt-get update", it goes through nearly all of them perfectly, except for one: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found03:04
TaoAny helpful people out there willing to lend assistance?03:04
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iBallbagi didnt get that far with ubuntu yet03:05
TaoAnybody else wanna help?03:05
piei dont know who said it, and thanks for the effort, but restarting gdm didnt work03:05
DasEiTao: I just came in, what's the issue ?03:06
iBallbagim proud for killing the uac in 10.0403:06
Tao[22:04] <Tao> I'm having problems with updates. Every time I got the terminal and input "sudo apt-get update", it goes through nearly all of them perfectly, except for one: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found03:06
piehowever when i rebooted the computer i let it go into low graphics mode or what and now it look like it works03:06
shreymechhi all...!! i am using a USB ethernet interface for wired connection as my ethernet port is gone... my system was detecting my USB-ethernet adapter automatically in my linux-image 2.6.32-22 but later on due to image kernel upgrades to 2.6.32-23 and latest (2.6.32-24) .. these lastest upgrades are not supporting my USB-ethernet adapters.. please help me out.. i am using the adapter in 2.6.32-22 bcz in this version its supporting... my adpater uses a D03:06
shreymechavicom DM9601 driver.... problem might be that ubuntu removed the support for that driver in its latest kernels.. can any one help me with the solution.. thanx03:06
piebut it said itll only do that or a session03:07
pieso any ideas?03:07
DasEiTao: second, I check it03:07
iBallbagpie, what is the problem?03:07
mbeierlnibsa1242: thanks.  looks like network it's got to be ... mobo doesn't appear to support booting from usb ?!?  ah, well... all this for trying to get a backup computer for the kids running again.03:07
Gneashreymech: is the adapter plugged into a usb hub or directly into the computer?03:08
nibsa1242mbeierl: how old is it that it doesn't support usb booting?03:08
DasEiTao: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gtg/ppa03:08
shreymechGnea, adapter is pluged in to a directly in to the USB in my laptop03:09
nibsa1242mbeierl: I've seen machines circa 2000 and eariler support usb boot03:09
DasEiTao: gksudo  /etc/apt/sources.list03:09
thune3Tao: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ doesn't seem to have "lucid" branch. I don't see one either for https://launchpad.net/~gtg/+archive/ppa .03:09
TaoI know03:09
DasEiTao: find the "younger" faulty line, delete or comment it03:09
Taothun3: I've already checked that :p03:09
mbeierlnibsa1242: fairly old I guess.  Either that or I just can read the old ami bios options to make it work.  it supports "usb-hdd" and "usb-cd" but I can't seem to get the right option to make it boot from a stick03:09
thune3Tao: So remove the ppa?03:09
mbeierlnibsa1242: it's definitely more recent that 2000.03:10
Taothune3: I can't find it in the sources list03:10
Gneashreymech: do you have a /var/log/dmesg.? file from the failed 2.6.32-24?03:10
maxichola03:10
maxicalguien que hable español?03:10
Gnea!es | maxic03:10
ubottumaxic: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.03:10
tensorpudding!es | maxic03:10
pieiBallbag: ok so ive had gnome apparently restart on me a few time sor something, but this tiem the screen resolution changed for the worse, and i dunno what the problem is, i restarted my computer but thtat didnt work, then i restarted again and let it go into low graphics mode03:10
hasenI'm thinking of buying a laptop with an ATI card, are there linux drivers for it?03:11
nibsa1242mbeierl: its ok, it really just depends on the bios and what the manufacturer thought you'd do with the machine03:11
R350hello all i have installed ubuntu 10.04, with agp 9600se ati card (r350) connected via dvi2hdmi, the card is supported for proprietary fglrx, however, im getting an issue with the installation procedure, http://pastebin.com/d2Lhjvna is there a fix for it ?03:11
shreymechGnea, i don't have it... as my system is not at all detecting my adapter in other lastest kernel...03:11
tensorpuddinghasen: Yes.03:11
pieiBallbag: now it appears to work but it said low graphics is only for one session, oh and also i ran sudo dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg (i found it in a forum) but that didnt appear to help either03:11
Gneahasen: likely, but you'd be better off getting one with a geforce in it03:11
nibsa1242hasen: which ati card?03:11
tensorpuddinghasen: There are open-source ones03:11
pieiBallbag: so yeah thats pretty much it03:11
pieiBallbag: what really pisses me off though is that it closed all the stuff i was working on /03:11
iBallbagpie, remove all the fancy effects on the desktop.  i had a similar issue earlier03:11
tensorpuddingas well as a proprietary one with acceleration and all that03:11
thune3Tao: should either be in System->Admin->Software-Sources [Tab Other Software] or you could remove appropriate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.03:11
hasennot sure, just in general, no specific one yet03:12
Gneashreymech: so you're telling me that there are no /var/log/dmesg* files, at all, whatsoever?03:12
pieiBallbag: fancy effects?03:12
nibsa1242R350: I don't think that card is going to work for you under fglrx, I know my x800 (which is newer) doesn't because support for older cards were removed from fglrx a few years ago03:12
DasEiTao: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list03:12
iBallbaglike reflection etc03:12
pieiBallbag: i never touched any of those so i dont really know what i have to do =/03:13
TaoDasEi: Alright, done03:13
DasEiTao: give  resulting url here, so we can have a look03:13
nibsa1242Ugh- hard lock during install second time it has locked at 10% configuring language-pack-en-base (and this is a second disk, burned slow, verfied by burner and install program)03:14
Taohttp://pastebin.com/rpPifLyj03:14
iBallbagpie do you have compiz installed?03:14
pieiBallbag: only all the default stuff03:14
nibsa1242I don't think my server likes Ubuntu anymore. At least it doesn't like 10.04 and installing to a software raid-1.03:14
tensorpuddinghasen: generally people dislike the proprietary ati drivers03:14
pieiBallbag: no fancy desktop managers03:14
dreamer000kernel panic03:14
DasEi!who | Tao03:15
ubottuTao: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)03:15
R350nibsa1242: damn, opensource during playback is crappy.....screen-tearing.03:15
TaoAh03:15
TaoDasEi: http://pastebin.com/rpPifLyj03:15
iBallbagpie, ubuntu 10.04?03:15
hasentensorpudding: well all decent video cards' drivers are proprietry03:15
TaoDasEi: Better?03:15
pieiBallbag: yeah, i dunno whty i said 9.10 earlier :/03:15
R350im running vizio razor led 1920x108003:15
pie*why03:15
tensorpuddingthe intel graphics drivers are not03:15
iBallbagget compiz settings manager03:16
nibsa1242R350 you can downgrade to an old distro with an old xserver & old version of flgrx if you really want03:16
pieiBallbag: and if it changes anythign i think i have the intel x45 video chip or something(yeah, or something =/ )03:16
shreymechGnea, i don't have it... as my system is not at all detecting my adapter in other lastest kernel...03:16
DasEiTao: yes; I also can't find the ppa in there03:16
shreymechhi all...!! i am using a USB ethernet interface for wired connection as my ethernet port is gone... my system was detecting my USB-ethernet adapter automatically in my linux-image 2.6.32-22 but later on due to image kernel upgrades to 2.6.32-23 and latest (2.6.32-24) .. these lastest upgrades are not supporting my USB-ethernet adapters.. please help me out.. i am using the adapter in 2.6.32-22 bcz in this version its supporting... my adpater uses a D03:16
shreymechavicom DM9601 driver.... problem might be that ubuntu removed the support for that driver in its latest kernels.. can any one help me with the solution.. thanx03:16
TaoDasEi: Thats whats confusing me03:16
tensorpuddinghasen: my laptop uses intel's i915 which is just fine03:17
R350nibsa1242: does this include all other distros as well ?03:17
DasEiTao: did you dist-upgrade this system ?03:17
thune3Tao: it's a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory03:17
nibsa1242R350: I think it was an xserver change, in addition the flgrx change. My understanding is that you'd have to use an old distro, with an old kernel, and an old fglrx. Change happened a few years ago. You are just better off upgrading to a more modern card.03:19
DasEiTao: I'm by far not aware what gtg is for, but there is a daily build ppa on launchpad which you could (own risk) try to add03:19
Tao thune3: Thanks. I do believe I found it03:19
Gneashreymech: please keep the chat to here03:19
Gnea!pastebin | shreymech03:19
ubottushreymech: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:19
Gnea!pastebinit03:19
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com03:19
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DasEiTao: http://i8t.de/3cnzk3sx03:20
DavidJHeinrich1how all, how do I restart the mysql daemon and make sure it starts up when I boot?03:20
dustinwine! i need big help to connect my blackberry 8130, to the desktop software, but i dont now how wine works,03:20
shreymechhi all there... http://paste.ubuntu.com/471326/03:20
Gneashreymech: everytime your system boots up, it logs everything to /var/log/dmesg, so unless it's been over 5 reboots since you last had the 2.6.32-24 kernel booted up, then I can see why you wouldn't have it03:20
bazhangdustin, /join #winehq03:21
pieiBallbag: as the compiz settings manager thing directed at me?03:21
shreymechGnea whats the command to open var/log.... its saying permission denied03:21
R350whats a good agp card to get ?03:21
iBallbagyes pie03:22
R350agp03:22
castR350: one that works?03:22
castR350: one that's low power? one that glows?03:22
TaoDasEi: That link didn't work03:22
R350ati or nvidia03:22
DasEiR350: more a #hardware question, in gnerall nvidia and alo matrox seem to cause less problems03:23
BentFranklinNew Kubuntu 10.4 install at home for fun/learning and some light LAMP action...  Here's what I'm thinking for partitions:  /: 20GB, /boot: 10 GB, /var: 270GB, /home: 600GB, swap:  100GB.  Does anything look too big or too small?03:23
tensorpuddingBentFranklin: 10 GB for /boot?03:23
tensorpuddingthat's gigantic03:23
BentFranklinI have no idea what it's used for, so it's a total guess.03:23
tensorpuddingwhat do you keep in /boot?03:23
tensorpuddingoh03:23
tensorpudding /boot is where the kernel and grub stuff end up03:23
bazhangBentFranklin, 250MB tops03:23
tensorpuddingit usually remains fixed in size03:24
tensorpuddingwell, depending on how many kernels you keep03:24
headkase314BentFranklin: only 20GB for / ?  What about programs hanging off that like /usr and /bin?  I'm a n00b so I might be missing something.03:24
DavidJHeinrich1can anyone help me with mysql? I'm trying to set it up for Amarok, but when I type "mysql -u root", I get "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"03:24
DasEiTao: sry, the shorter seems corrupt (https?), so full : https://edge.launchpad.net/~invernizzi/+archive/gtg-daily03:24
tensorpuddingif this is a server, /home is going to be very small03:24
tensorpuddingunless you're hosting shell accounts or you have a real user account with a use for that much space03:25
OhKHey hve any of you guys tried ubuntu on a PPC?03:25
dustinbazhang, i did for 2 hours  and i go some help but it calls for command line,and im a big newbie at that i go scared cuz it was telling me to change the sucerity of ubuntu and premissions and stuff . i ask againg and now one said anything,wine  too,03:25
jeremy1536hey i got a couple questions?03:25
DasEiTao: that does (same) : http://tinyurl.com/36mzcve03:25
dustinohk, a ppc? whats that?03:25
bazhangdustin, that's the channel for wine support; be patient03:26
tensorpuddingBentFranklin: 100 GB for swap is never going to be used03:26
TaoDasEi: I got it. Tinyurl works better, doesn't it :p03:26
OhKPower PC dustin03:26
DasEiTao: I just found the diff of tinyurl and tinyurl.com03:26
dustinohk, i dont know what that is but i would like to03:26
bazhangBentFranklin, perhaps 2-4GB for swap03:26
tensorpuddingI'm surprised Ubuntu still supports PPC03:26
TaoDasEi: That ppa didn't work03:27
smackmanicupdated ubuntu..rebooted...won't boot the UUID, says it doesn't exist. found a forum post that suggests I edit what grub is booting...but i don't believe i am doing it properly03:27
OhKdustin, it's an architecture. Not Intel, nor AMD. I think it's exclusive to older model Macs.03:27
DasEiTao: so I can't help you much further, as I have no idea what that project is about03:27
user3#jakarta03:27
madampsi started installing linux mint from the live cd and its on the "Please Wait - Resizing Partition..." screen. it said it might take a while, but it's been stalled at 0% for about 15 minutes. its not frozen - ie i can use everything else lag-free. is this normal? i know resizing takes a long time, but should i be at least progressing? i'm afraid to cancel and mess stuff up03:27
furythoris Nvidia Geforce 240 GT supported by proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 9.10 ?03:28
TaoDaeEi: Its ok. Thanks for your help so far03:28
tensorpuddingPPC was used predominantly by Apple, until 2006 when Apple switched to x86.03:28
pieiBallbag: how exactly do i get compiz settings mgr?03:28
bazhangmadamps, join the mint support channel as its not supported here03:28
bazhang!mintsupport | madamps03:28
ubottumadamps: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:28
BentFranklinThanks to all, here's my new plan:  swap: 4 GB, /: 100 GB, /boot: 1GB, /var: 295 GB, /home:600 GB03:28
madampsbazhang: thanks :)03:28
smackmanicbazhang: still struggling lol03:28
tensorpuddingthat'd be more realistic03:28
madampsaw bazhang - it's empty. do you guys have any advice>03:29
bazhangmadamps, its on a different network03:29
iBallbagpie click applications>ubuntu software centre03:29
tensorpuddingthough unless you're really serious about webhosting you're not going to use 295 GB on /var03:29
madampsbazhang do you know the name?03:29
iBallbagtop left03:29
IdleOnemadamps: the mint channel is not on this network03:29
furythorBentFranklin: why 100 GB for boot?03:29
bazhangmadamps, irc.spotchat.org03:30
madampsi'm kind of irc-retarded. we are on freenode, right?03:30
smackmanicbazhang: any suggestions?03:30
=== Annie_ is now known as Annie
TaoDasEi: I fixed it!03:30
smackmanicmadamps, yah03:30
BentFranklinAnother question:  this is my second install.  On the first I let it use the whole disk for one partition.  Is there some sort of partition magic to repartion at this point?03:30
dludldinhi everybody!03:30
DasEi!yay|Tao03:30
ubottuTao: Glad you made it! :-)03:30
BentFranklinfurythor:  It's 1GB now.03:30
IdleOnemadamps: /server irc.spotchat.org   then join #linuxmint-help03:30
bazhangBentFranklin, 2 to 4 GB for swap, 250MB for /boot  much more for /03:30
OhKBent... it would be possible to resize partitions by the Disk Utility in ubuntu03:31
tensorpudding100 GB for / is reasonable03:31
madampsIdleOne - exactly what i wanted. thakns03:31
furythorBentFranklin: what you mean exactly or what you are trying to get ?03:31
IdleOnemadamps: welcome03:31
tensorpuddingI've not come close to that myself03:31
dustinbazhang,i did and i stayed for even longer,im just gone  a dead line to met, in 3 weeks, i got to got a source of internet on this computer03:31
bazhang100GB for root is huge03:31
crivitohhh  droped here03:31
jjgalvez__for an external drive should I format it as ext2 or ext4? is there any advantage to using ext4 on an external drive?03:31
smackmanicbe right back. I need to take a 2 min breather.03:32
dludldinmy internet often disconnects. i get this message in log files "Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x348d" this happens many times(the protocol isn t always the same)03:32
bazhangjjgalvez__, shared with windows?03:32
furythorjjgalvez__: any reason why not ext3 ?03:32
jjgalvez__bazhang: nope just linux03:32
DasEijjgalvez__: want to share it with windows hosts ?03:32
bazhangjjgalvez__, ext4 then03:32
tensorpuddingjjgalvez__: use ext4 if it's Linux-only03:32
DasEiah^03:32
tensorpuddingext2 is old and lacks journaling03:32
castext4 support is relatively new03:32
bazhangcast, not really03:32
castbazhang: yes, really03:33
jjgalvez__furythor: no reason, just when I clicked on the drive and selected format I got ext2 and ext4 as options03:33
bazhangcast, its perfectly fine.03:33
=== spyrosebastos is now known as spiros
tensorpuddingext4 is default on most linux installs03:33
tensorpuddingi believe ubuntu is one of those03:33
furythorjjgalvez__:  that goes interesting, that ext3 is not among options...03:33
casttensorpudding: is it?03:33
dustinjjgalvez__, look for cross format, so you dont need to do it again, if thats not what your thing 'to look back" the right on..03:33
bazhangcast, perhaps you are thinking of btrfs03:33
DasEicast: optinally since jaunty or ibex, jaunty I think03:33
furythorI have question related to graphics card, does ubuntu 9.10 nvidia proprietary drivers support Geforce 275/285 graphics card ?03:34
castbazhang: i am not.03:34
jjgalvez__so it looks like since I am only using this for linux ext4 is the way to go03:34
dustinjjgalvez_,i say it cuz theres a 5%-10% chance you'll need windows03:34
bazhangjjgalvez__, yep03:34
mbeierljust venting ... know that there's no easy answer: got my old pc, with a windows activation code that refuses to work, but I can boot with the windows xp install disk.  I've got an ubuntu install cd, but it refuses to boot with a cannot read disk error.  I am so lost...03:34
casti can understand perhaps you're used to talking to morons, but i'm not one.03:34
AnnieMore port questions. ssh from Starbucks. Not port 22 cause it's blocked. Port 8080 let's say. The connection reaches my router. How does the ssh service that listens to port 22 know to listen to port 8080? Isn't port forwarding to have your inbound ports directed to the private ports?03:34
bazhangcast, that's not appropriate for here03:35
pieiBallbag: oh hey...i guess i do have compiz...03:35
DasEifurythor: yes03:35
yoshieUbuntu 10.04 LTS 64Bit  Alien Arena sound not working.03:35
pieiBallbag: ccsm?03:35
jjgalvez__dustin: true, but this is going to be used to back up my linux comp, I'll user another drive if i need windoz03:35
furythorDasEi: so if I get either of those cards I got fully working drivers ?03:36
iBallbagpie yes03:36
DasEiAnnie: you can tell ssh where to listen to (which port), set in the sshd_config /etc03:36
usacomputertechello world03:36
bazhang!ccsm | pie03:36
ubottupie: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz03:36
apertureYo03:36
crivitcast: bazhang is very uptight03:36
usacomputertececho "hello world"03:36
bazhangcrivit, please keep random commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic03:37
dludldinmy internet often disconnects. i get this message in log files "Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x348d" this happens many times(the protocol isn t always the same)03:37
castbazhang: ext4 is perfectly fine if all boxes that require access can read ext4, i *am* questioning the assertion that most linux hosts have ext4 support03:37
OhKcast, Freedom of Speech, Open Source speech. Etc, etc.03:37
dustincasst,  comments like that donest help the commuity grow, which "we" dont get better support,03:37
AnnieDasEi: do you know of a link to a tutorial? I just learned ssh 2 days ago trying to set up a web proxy being I'm leaving the states... And I'm running out of time to finish this set up and don't have a lot of time to learnsometing else03:37
apertureI'm having some trouble with a built in mic... Is there a support channel I should go to, or can someone here help me out?03:37
DasEifurythor: yup, certified as their hp says, so yes03:37
pieiBallbag: so the simple on or the complex one...03:37
tensorpuddingext4 support has been in the kernel since 2.6.2803:37
crivitbazhang: that wasnt ramdom at all03:37
DasEiAnnie: no prob, let's go :03:38
bazhangcrivit, offtopic for here. please don't03:38
dustin<jjgalvez__, ok oh and always  get a 8 gb or more cuz it very easy to fill it up using 2 os03:38
crivitbazhang: just saying03:39
aperture... can anyone at least tell me what channel to go to for support getting this mic to work with Ubuntu?03:39
furythorDasEi: okay, since I got interesting problem, I got some problems with gf gt240 with 9.10 but my wireless mouse and keyboard work fine, however I don't know if those problems are really serious, or could I install newer driver from nvidia website...03:39
DasEiAnnie: gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config03:39
AnnieDasEi: got it03:39
tensorpuddingI guess that means that it isn't supported in Debian Lenny, but Ubuntu has supported it for a few releases now03:39
dustin cast,comments like that donest help the commuity grow, which "we" dont get better support,03:39
DasEiAnnie: found it already ?03:39
casttensorpudding: great. so ubuntu supports it. 'linux' is a great deal more widespread than ubuntu03:40
iBallbagpie simple is what i got03:40
AnnieDasEi: was talking to cast, told me about it but on reading more by brain melted03:40
OhKcast is my favrite person in this room right now.03:40
DasEiAnnie: gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config03:40
jjgalvez__dustin: thansk for the advice03:40
pieiBallbag: oh well lol too late03:40
OhKdude you rock03:40
pieiBallbag: but thanks i hope this fixes it =03:40
DasEiAnnie:set the port there03:40
pie* =/03:40
dustin cast, im very new at all this  i would love to learn lunix, comments like that dont help03:41
DasEiAnnie:also password auth, as I assume, save the file... then..03:41
dustinjjgalvez__ you well come ;03:41
tensorpuddingThis argument might be worthwhile but it's ultimately irrelevant to the original query anyway03:41
AnnieDasEi: argh... sorry DasEi... My proxy server is a mac03:41
OhKcast, pointing out the fact that there is a linux world outside of ubuntu CERTAINLY helps the community. Thanks.03:41
DasEifurythor: did you find that card under hardwaredrivers ?03:42
AnnieDasEi: but it looks like I can edit the config file easy enough.03:42
DasEiAnnie: erm, this is ubuntu, but config shall be same03:42
furythorDasEi: yeah, I got everything working, but I had some issues with 9.10 and when I moved to 10.04 some things were repaired but others appeared to have breaked down03:42
iBallbagpie, i cant guarantee it03:42
DasEiAnnie: and look for something similar in mac :03:42
DasEi!info fail2ban03:43
ubottufail2ban (source: fail2ban): bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 93 kB, installed size 660 kB03:43
AnnieDasEi: the netbook I'm taking is ubuntu... setting em up together brought me here03:43
furythorand personally I like more of 9.10 appearance03:43
iBallbagits worth a shot tho03:43
CARABOBOa los venezolanos que esten por aqui03:43
bazhang!es | CARABOBO03:44
ubottuCARABOBO: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.03:44
nibsa1242Is there anything terribly bad about fakeraid? I can't seem to get the install to work with software raid, so I'm considering using fakeraid.03:44
CARABOBOmañana a partir de las 8 de la mañana03:44
castdon't bother with fail2ban, just don't use retarded passwords, and if you dont like typing passwords more complex than "password", use ssh keys03:44
thune3dludldin: the only info i found is that the "protocol-reject" indicates an improperly decoded packet. I can only suggest these kewords for search "protocol reject 0x????"03:44
AnnieDasEi: # Port 22.... that line is hashed out because it's default. But if I unhash it and put in 9050-9999, that will make ssh listen to those ports?03:44
DasEifurythor: in general that cards shouldn't cause trouble, did you run the settings manager afterwards ?(the nvidia one)03:44
crivitbazhang: so cold the night03:44
CARABOBOse estara selebrando el aniversrio de ubuntu-ve en maracay03:44
castnibsa1242: yeah, it means when you have drama trying to read the disks in other boxes03:44
dustinjjgalvez__ you well come ;) just watch how fast my adice come into play,  i "eat a half gb a day to a 1 gb, so thats hard to do but, do what my studio does and it very likely03:44
bazhang!ot > crivit03:44
ubottucrivit, please see my private message03:44
smackmanicokay...anyway...i have what appears to be a fairly common problem for people who updated to the latest version....ubuntu does not boot correctly...it sends me to busybox...it basically says my UUID does not exist03:44
furythorDasEi: yes but there were few weird things, maybe due to problems of my graphics card being that much new one...03:44
CARABOBOen el municipio Giraldot en el IUTA que queda frente a la CANTV03:44
DasEiAnnie: no sure about syntax in mac, one port or seperated ones should do03:45
nibsa1242cast: if it were you, and the choice was between fake raid and using another distro, which would you choose?03:45
CARABOBOasistan les esperamos03:45
smackmanicfrom what I've googled, I believe I need to edit the boot in grub...however I believe I am doing that incorrectly..03:45
bazhangCARABOBO, here is english03:45
bazhangCARABOBO, /join #ubuntu-es03:45
CARABOBOsorry03:45
castnibsa1242: another distro. but i don't use ubuntu :)03:45
nibsa1242cast: what do you use?03:45
smackmanicwould note that I'm not using grub2...03:45
smackmanicboot is currently set to root=  (hd0,4)03:46
smackmanici'm so lost03:46
castnibsa1242: debian.03:46
sdfasdfasdfasdfhello im trying to learn howto encrypt a file, i don't fully understand how gpg works, i would only encrypt a rar file but gpg apparently uses public keys? i would like that when i encrypy a file it creates a new one with a new extention and when i double click it it would promt me for a password, but gpg apparently can create private keys that if you format pc and havent back it up, despite you remember password, you still woul03:46
sdfasdfasdfasdfdnt be able to decrypt file is this true? is there any nice guide for dummies? thanks03:46
jjgalvez__dustin: Wow, this is for my Mom, but I will definitely keep an eye on it03:46
smackmanici tried editing it to sda1, then sda2...both got error 23 if i recall correctly03:46
furythorwhat is current support level for Ati Radeon drivers on Ubuntu Linux ?03:46
AnnieDasEi: ok... I'll check on syntax. Just wanna make sure the question I'm gonna ask makes sense first. So something like 22,25-1000... would make sense on that line?03:46
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: gpg can use passwords, pass it the -c option,03:46
DasEiAnnie: yesss03:47
sdfasdfasdfasdfcast, is there any nice gui easy to use?03:47
AnnieDasEi: SWEET03:47
nibsa1242cast: I've never used debian, is it hard to setup? (my experience is with Mandrake (back when it was called that); Fedora (back when it was Fedora Core); and Ubuntu)03:47
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: probably03:47
smackmanic=/03:47
AnnieDasEi: thanks for your patience. Really needed it03:47
josephseraoshi.. anyone use irssi client irc03:47
josephseraos?03:47
castnibsa1242: i find it trivial03:47
castjosephseraos: yes, most of #irssi03:47
AnnieLove this room!!! It's so nice to come into a chat room and get actual help :D03:48
josephseraoscast: Ok, but nobody answer me03:48
smackmanicAnnie: ehhhhh sometimes lol03:48
nibsa1242cast: ok, I'll look into it03:48
DasEiAnnie: there you go, but keep topic here : http://tinyurl.com/2d7xgdn03:48
headkase314josephseraos: I sometimes use it but an not an expert on irssi03:48
josephseraoscast: hey, could you say me, how do I change to other channels that I have joined?03:49
Tux414Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone won't work nor does my Internet display the speed it says unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?03:49
DasEismackmanic: you have probs with grub-legacy ?03:49
AnnieDasEi: awesome! Thanks again.03:49
sdfasdfasdfasdfcast, to begin with i dont want to send this encrypted files so can gpg just not use that public/private key thing, what does it do btw?03:49
dustinfurythor, "the upgrading bug" i call it (not well known), it happens when you do the same with (9.04 ubuntu to 9.10.) i guess it make it this far ... the best way to get fix that is a clean install of th os your trying to go ofor in the first place03:50
josephseraosheadkase314: I'm just testing... It's can be to some necessity. I'm user GNU/Linux, and I would like to know some softwares for console03:50
josephseraosunderstand?03:50
headkase314josephseraos: Type "man irrsi" in a console for it!03:50
castAnnie: is that for the sshd_config? thats not a good idea..03:50
crivitsdfasdfasdfasdf: what are you up to?03:50
josephseraosheadkase314: Great!03:50
sdfasdfasdfasdfcast, can it just create a .gpg file fully encrypted that could be decrypted in ANY pc with only knowing the secret password?03:50
dron247Hello all, what happens with russian ubuntu repositories?03:50
Anniecast: No?03:50
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: yes. gpg -c03:50
furythordustin: can be, though I think it may have some interesting other reasons causing that problem...03:51
DasEicast: we're liitle ot here, she wants to connect her mac and her ubu by ssh03:51
castAnnie: does sshd support syntax in the form of a range?03:51
josephseraosit's not installed03:51
josephseraosman for irssi is not installed03:51
furythordustin: like fact that drivers aren't simply "bug free" for my graphics card yet03:51
josephseraosSorry my english. I'm brazilian03:51
smackmanicDasEi: whatever version came with 8.04...basically when i boot up, it doesnt actually boot to ubuntu. doesnt recognize my UUID..found a forum post...says I need to change the boot option in grub...ive tried and I think I'm doing it incorrectly03:51
smackmanicif that makes sense03:52
sdfasdfasdfasdfcrivit, i would like to encrypt a .tar.gz file to store it safely in my pc, so the idea is that me only knowing certain password or phrase could decrypt it and use those files even if i format pc. problem is apparently kgpg creates some kind of private key that if i dont back up i couldnt decrypt this file even knowing the password in my head, as far as i understand03:52
headkase314josephseraos: back up plan -> http://www.irssi.org/documentation03:52
dirty_americanno software is bug free :P03:52
furythorWhat about geforce 400 series _03:53
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: the gpg passphrase only unlocks the key, the key is the truly important bit, and that needs to be backed up03:53
dirty_americannasa may have some..03:53
Joe_CoTQuick question: is there anyway to get Grub2 to ignore a specific partition? the 30_os_prober successfully finds vista, but also the OEM utility partition, which it also calls Vista. I want grub to ignore the latter.03:53
DasEismackmanic: one question forehands, why still hardy ? backup files and get a future-able distro ? else we could fix it by a live cd, but might take longer in view to file backup and fresh install03:53
DasEi!eol | smackmanic03:53
ubottusmackmanic: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades03:53
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: it's really quite trivial to use the command line, :)you should learn at some point03:53
edbianWhat does it mean if a system cannot get past the file system check during boot?  It drops to a shell consistently at 66%03:53
crivitsdfasdfasdfasdf: well as long as they know the key03:53
smackmanicDasEi: I ran an update, however, you must update grub manually. obviously I can't get into ubuntu..so I can't update it03:54
josephseraosheadkase314: where can I find people who wants just talk. just chat?03:54
nibsa1242cast: alright, I'm done with this install bs... I'm going to try debian instead... Installing to a software raid1 should be trivial not something that takes hours and hours and then hardlocks so you can't even tell why it fails03:54
smackmaniclivecd is not an option right now unfortunately.03:54
edbianjosephseraos, #ubuntu-offtopic03:54
DasEiedbian: fs corrupt, check unmounted by live cd03:54
crivitedbian: file system check error03:54
DasEijosephseraos: #defocus03:54
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so say i format this pc ok. to be able to extract that tar i would have to put that back up of the key into new kgpg and then decrypt the file, if i didnt have this back up file of the key theres no possible human way i cant decrypt the file again?03:54
edbianDasEi, Do you mean the check function using gparted??03:54
trumpeet :)03:55
DasEismackmanic: live cd, see above03:55
DasEi!grub03:55
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.03:55
smackmanicDasEi: I found a forum post with essentially my exact error...could I /msg the solution? I believe it will work, only I think I am doing it incorrectly03:55
BentFranklinSo the partition GUI lets me make everything except swap. If I leave 4000 MB unallocated, does it just make that the swap?  Also, does swap count towards my limit of 4 primary partitions?03:55
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: without the key, your chances of reading the file again are as good as attacker trying to read your file without your consent03:55
tensorpuddingas any*03:55
smackmaniclol see above, livecd is not option atm03:55
DasEismackmanic: go ahead03:55
edbianThe system drops to a shell, can't I use that instead of booting a live CD ?03:55
tensorpuddingactually much poorer, since you don't have a botnet for cracking AES + RSA03:56
edbianBentFranklin, Leaving space unallocated will not make it swap.  Swap does count against your 4 primary partitions.  That's a limit caused by the hdd not the OS.03:56
crivitedbian: what your hdd?03:56
DasEiedbian: not if the fs can't work on  ,as a superblock could be damaged, need a live for it then to check03:56
edbiancrivit, Could you rephrase that?03:57
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, i'm sorry i just don't get it fully, and trust me i've googled a lot and there isn't good clear information, if kgpg creates this private key lets imagine its a .key file (don't know) why then do i have to learn a pass phrase if i have the key + the .gpg file containing my protected tar.gz?03:57
osmarioHi all. Does anybody know how to sincronize Ipod Classic at Rhythmbox?03:57
crivitedbian: The system drops to a shell? please explain03:57
DasEicrivit: the fsck breaks down03:58
smackmanicDasEi: sent...I hope it was not too long03:58
edbianDasEi, Does corrupt mean that the hdd is physically broken?  Will this be an easy fix using gparted on a live CD?  It's not actually me fixing it.  It's a friend's computer and he's far away.  I have to explain it to him.03:58
DasEismackmanic: no pm arrived, myabe a pastebin ?03:59
edbiancrivit, Yeah, when your hdd fails that built it fs check it drops to a shell.03:59
edbiancrivit, a bash shell03:59
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, and what is that attacker thing you mention, i thought gpg was quite good at hiding files, it means someone can download some sort of crack (?) and read my file easily if this person got access to my .gpg?03:59
DasEiedbian: no, can also be the fact, but mostly it's just the filesystem03:59
smackmanichttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html 2nd to last post, not much scrolling03:59
smackmanicposted by rudihawk03:59
crivitedbian: ok so what the error message?03:59
Tux414Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:00
edbianDasEi, I understand that as: "no" the hard drive is not physically broken.  "can also be the fact" what does that mean??04:00
inktri1\frac{5}{6}04:00
edbiancrivit, Don't know, haven't seen it myself.04:00
inktri1\[ \frac{5}{6} \]04:00
inktri1$\frac{5}{6}$04:00
DasEiedbian: i can be physically broken, but most time this behaviour is caused by the fs, not the hardware04:01
crivitedbian: so fsck dosent give you a message?04:01
edbiancrivit, It might.  It's a remote PC.  I don't know.04:01
sdfasdfasdfasdfuhm apparently he is away could someone please answer me the question i just asked to tensorpudding? , i would really appreaciate it =)04:01
smackmanicsdfasdfasdfasdf: I wish I could...04:02
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: the encryption is there so that if someone stole your .tar.gz file, they couldn't read it04:02
crivitedbian: so fs check it drops to a shell?04:02
hydesterhi.  i am using ./ssh/authorized_keys, and it works fine.  then suddenly i get prompted for my password again.  any idea why or how this would time out?04:02
DasEismackmanic: follow the link to restore grub, use a live cd, that will give you all checks; and a agin, newer distro no offer ?04:02
DasEi!grub04:02
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.04:02
edbianDasEi, I'm going to tell him to boot Ubuntu (live CD), check the hdd using gparted, and if it doesn't fix the problem I'm going to assume that the HDD is physically broken and advise him to grab the data using the live CD (if he can) and get a new HDD / computer.04:02
smackmanicDasEi: livecd is not currently an option....04:02
edbiancrivit, Yes.  Have I not already said that?04:02
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: by attacker i mean someone who wants to read your .tar.gz file without your consent04:02
DasEiedbian: oh, not yours, no check by fsck/e2fsck04:02
smackmanichad it been an option I would have immediately updated grub with it heh04:03
smackmanicand ran fsck , etc04:03
edbianDasEi, "Not yours?" what do you mean?04:03
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: there are ways to try and break the encryption, but they are effectively useless for the most part04:03
crivitedbian: well your problem is NOT explained04:03
smackmanicbecause I had a hunch that was an issue when I first saw the errors...however livecd is not an option right now...editing grub is04:03
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, you mean steal my .gpg  file encrypted containing my tar.gz right? or kgpg doesnt alter the original tar.gz04:03
josephseraosalô04:03
tensorpuddingRSA encryption is based on certain mathematical properties of large numbers04:03
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: that is what i meant, the tar.gz.gpg file04:03
DasEiedbian: going to tell him ^04:04
smackmanicheh..so I have the solution for editing grub...I just don't believe I'm editing it correctly04:04
quizmeSunOS z13131AA.textdrive.com 5.11 snv_62 i86pc i386 i86pc  <--- does this mean i'm on Solaris ?04:05
castquizme: yes.04:05
castquizme: cat /etc/release04:05
meesebyteThis is what I want to do: Install Win7 on MacBook pro, and then install ubuntu. Is there a way yo /just/ use GRUB as the boot menu instead of boot camp?04:05
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: so i forgot what your original question was04:06
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, not enought words to thank you man, i wish someone wrote this and it got in first google page :D. so to be sure  i fully understood if my hdd broke and i needed to read again this tar.gz i woould have to not only back up in any mediea the tar.gz.gpg file but the .key backup file too and of course remember the pass phrase the .key file is protecting then. Then in my reinstall of ubuntu, i would have to make kgpg re04:06
sdfasdfasdfasdfad this backup file and doueble click the tar.gz.gpg? isnt it?04:06
crivitedbian: if the hdd is broken fully   you wont get any data off it04:07
edbiancrivit, I know.  I'm afraid of that for him.04:07
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: the GnuPG page has a ton of information about how gpg works04:07
castthere's a Concepts part to the manual which is nice04:08
castbut, public key based cryptosystems are non-trivial04:09
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: If you wanted to back up your gpg key, you can export the key to a file, save the file somewhere on some backup media, then import the key into gpg when necessary04:09
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, ok i'll take a look but what i said right before is right?04:09
Tux414Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:09
crivitedbian: for who>?04:09
DasEisdfasdfasdfasdf: install signing-party and pgpgpg, then use the man-function, a 10 min task then04:09
edbiancrivit, The friend of mine who's computer this is we're talking about.04:09
castyou can even print out your key, it takes up about 1/4 of a page, one uses paperkey for that04:09
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: if you're afraid of losing the passphrase you can write it down in a file on the backup04:09
josephseraoshey.. I can't to find. I entered in some channels and I don't know how to change to other channels. I can't to find it on irssi.org04:10
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: the description of the process you gave is correct04:10
crivitedbian: put the drive in question in another pc04:10
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: like cast said, you can back up the key by printing it out04:10
sdfasdfasdfasdfDasEi, i think i just learned howto use kgpg hehe.04:10
tensorpuddingit's just a rather long string of random alphanumeric characters04:10
tensorpuddingrandom-looking*04:11
castit turns out the secret part of your key is only a few hundred bits, commonly 200-400 bits,04:11
edbianIs there a big difference between fsck and e2fsck ??04:11
sdfasdfasdfasdfwoah interesting04:11
EvilPhoenixwhats the CLI command to get the distro info04:11
DasEisdfasdfasdfasdf: fine two, just another frontend, but nice to know cmd-line, can use on other OS'es, too then04:11
sdfasdfasdfasdfcan i use stronger protection, i think there is 2048 bits, its this safe enought or theres even more?04:11
tensorpuddingedbian: fsck calls e2fsck I believe04:11
crivitedbian: haha only light years away04:12
tensorpuddingedbian: you use fsck and it calls the appropriate program to fsck that filesystem04:12
ennuihey guys, I borked my OSX partition on my dual boot macbook. Trying to use my iPod to boot from as an OSX install DVD. though I don't have disk usage enabled on it.... what are my options? running the windows version of itunes under wine? I can't restart my comp as I won't be able to boot back into linux because I was using rEFIt and I guess that was part of the OSX partition.04:12
edbiantensorpudding, That's what I thought.  Thanks :)04:12
dustinhello?04:12
* smackmanic rm -rf ubuntubuggy =(04:13
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: I think 1024 bits is considered to be safe on the multi-decade scale at current04:13
tensorpuddingas in, the time it takes to brute-force it will take decades of computer time04:13
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: 2048 bit is the size of the finite field you're operating in, with a 2048 bit ELG key your secret keys still only 330 bits, but your public key is 2048*2 and then some04:13
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fredwangoccasionally, my firefox freezes for a few seconds when maximized, anyone has an idea?04:14
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, wow even with lastest intel processors combined? ok im overreacting here not like if the nasa wanted to read this tar.gz hehe04:14
DasEismackmanic: what about my questions ? dist-install / access hd from another system ?04:14
fredwanganything to do with X04:14
tensorpuddingApparently 768bit RSA has been broken earlier this year, using 1500 years of computer time04:14
sdfasdfasdfasdfcast, i see.04:15
tensorpudding1500 years in the equivalent of a standard desktop pc04:15
smackmanicDasEi: currently the only route I can pursue...is either editign grub boot...or doing something with busybox. however...heh...I think busybox may be the most useless shell in the world04:15
castthe world, is rightfully so, moving away from 1024 bit keys04:15
josephseraosI got! //window <number>04:15
josephseraosI got! / /window <number>04:15
tensorpuddingthe whole effort involved a massive supercomputer using an integer sieve04:15
dustinbusybox? whats that?04:15
castattacking RSA is a bit easier than attacking ELG, for what it's worth04:15
smackmanicit's a bit frustrating because obviously the solution is there...I'm not doing it properly...04:15
DasEismackmanic: considering repairing grub, yes04:15
tensorpudding1024 will be safe for a bit yet.04:15
josephseraosI got! / window <number>04:16
smackmanicdustin: a shell I hope you never see mate04:16
edbianDasEi, Thanks for your help! :)04:16
smackmanic=p04:16
sdfasdfasdfasdftensorpudding, wow i'm using 2048 then :D04:16
DasEidustin: a minimal shell you get dropped to if initramfs fails04:16
DasEiedbian: fs fixed ?04:16
castgpg defaults are now 2048, have been for a while04:16
tensorpuddingsdfasdfasdfasdf: the resources to break 1024 would be out of the reach of most everyone04:16
edbianDasEi, No, I sent an email though.04:16
smackmanicdustin: apparently a lot of people who jumped from 8.04 to the latest version ge to wake up to it...04:17
DasEiedbian: so I got you right, not your box04:17
dustinits that like when a pc gets a bluescreenfodeath, and you do theat to reveive it04:17
crivitedbian: what box you on?04:17
DasEismackmanic: huh ? you have the choice of grub2 there, nor ?04:17
edbianDasEi, You helped me start solving a problem for somebody else.  No offense but I find it very difficult to understand what you're saying.04:17
edbiancrivit, My own.  This box has no problems.  Running Debian :)04:18
tensorpuddingthough honestly i don't think you'll ever convince anyone that there is such a thing as too many bits in a private key04:18
castsure you will04:18
smackmanicDasEi: no because I cannot access updates from busybox (there's not even sudo..) and as I've said livecd is -not- an option04:18
edbiancrivit, It's my friends computer that has the problems.  Again, I've said this to you I'm I not making sense?04:18
sdfasdfasdfasdfi see now i managed to think this: if i encrypt with 2048 bits an already encrypted file in same bits. it woult take  sort of 4096 protection cause it'd take a lot of time to decrypt the 2048 bits to get another 2048 file, hehe double amount of time am i correct?04:18
castwhen it takes too long to use the key :)04:18
tensorpuddinganyone truly paranoid04:18
tensorpuddingcast: techonology advances allow for larger keys as easily as they allow for easier brute forcing04:19
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: no.04:19
crivitedbian:sure you are but I wasnt here later04:19
DasEismackmanic: so one more time, backup files and do a fresh install ? any other possibility to hang that hd on working system ?04:19
tensorpuddingeven 768 is safe enough in the short term04:20
smackmanicDasEi: I have the solution though...I just don't understand it04:20
wolfriccan someone tell me what ctrl alt f2 does exactly? it doesn't seem to kill x like i first thought04:20
rodrigohi folks04:20
dustinhi04:20
hrishiI'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Everytime I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&04:20
tensorpuddinguntil people who care enough to break your encrypted files have access to computing power equal to 1500 years on average 2010 desktop PC's04:20
casttensorpudding: but the rates are not the same :)04:20
[thor]wolfric: it switches to TTY204:20
tensorpuddingin a reasonable amount of time04:20
DasEiwolfric: it opens another tty, ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to desktop04:20
[thor]wolfric: x is on TTY704:21
edbiancrivit, Yeah it's another persons computer (laptop) that has fs errors.  I sent him a message instructing him to run fsck on the partiton using a live CD.04:21
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casttensorpudding: attacks may evolve faster than computing hardware04:21
smackmanicDasEi: so I believe i should try to see the actual solution out before I go destroying the OS lol04:21
hrishiI'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Ocassionally when I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&" to get it working. How do I get this resolved permanently?04:21
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crivitedbian: ok MITM heheh04:21
wolfrici managed to google for the f7 after i had to hard restart the first time :) i'm not too familiar with tty2 or any other number can you give me a general name to look up more on?04:21
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wolfricor a link04:21
edbian!MITM04:22
edbianwhat is MITM ?04:22
casttensorpudding: the world is moving to ECC, FWIW, :)04:22
DasEimaninthemiddle (attack)04:22
tensorpuddingWho is "the world" in this case?04:22
edbiancrivit, What are you talking about??04:22
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tikdoes ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated or a god watermarking software?04:22
tensorpuddingAES is still the government-issue, is it not?04:22
hydesterhrishi: System->Preference->Appearance->Visual Effects->None04:22
tiker good not od04:23
crivitedbian: you are the man in the middle?04:23
tikgod04:23
DasEi!tty > wolfric04:23
ubottuwolfric, please see my private message04:23
edbiancrivit, I'm not attacking anybody.04:23
tikill be in the middle of 2 girls :P04:23
hrishihydester: but I want the visual effects of compiz. So I guess it is a bug in compiz then!04:23
castsdfasdfasdfasdf: attacking a 2048 bit key is maybe equiv to a 2^100 symmetric key, attacking your doubly encrypted file would be equiv to 2^101, twice as hard.04:23
[thor]!tty > [thor]04:23
ubottu[thor], please see my private message04:23
wolfricdasEi: thanks04:23
dustinyes patly,cuz of my friend04:23
crivitedbian: that not what I was suggesting04:23
callipygoushow do I get the grub bootloader to show up?  I'm trying to do a recovery...04:23
cast[citation: Mécanismes cryptographiques - Règles et recommandations, Rev. 1.20, FNISA , 01/2010.]04:23
edbiancrivit, Are you joking? :)04:24
Tux414Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:24
sdfasdfasdfasdfcast, wow.04:24
crivitedbian: that not what I was suggesting04:24
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edbiancrivit, Were you joking about the MITM attack?  I'm not angry, just confused :) :)04:24
crivitedbian: that not what I was suggesting04:24
deexannihilateWhat DVD program is most compatible with PulseAudio? I'm currently using VLC and sometimes it doesn't work.04:24
tikdoes ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?04:24
crivitfor the last time04:25
sdfasdfasdfasdfow, i gtg thanks all for the help! =)04:25
callipygousI've tried holding down the shift key, but that doesn't work04:25
DasEicast: and then move it to a tc container, the hidden one and move it to a luks partiton.. and store the notebook in a .. tank04:25
hrishiwhy doesn't the grub2 menu show after I install ubuntu lucid? I just get a screen with a cursor blinking, then I get the splash screen.04:25
les_Hey everyone04:25
xanguadeexannihilate: do you have libdvdcss2 installed¿04:26
castDasEi: and then watch helplessly as someone breaks in via your use of adobe flash to browse websites!04:26
smackmanichrishi: because apparently they wanted to make ubuntu more buggy.04:26
callipygousI've also tried pressing the esc key... but I still can't get the boot menu to appear04:26
dustinTux414, 1st) plug it in to lan (no wifi at all) upated like a mad man , an everything you can update and come back when your done04:26
edbiancrivit, What does MITM stand for then?04:26
hylian!hi | les_04:26
ubottules_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!04:26
xanguahrishi: is will show up when you have more than one OS installed04:26
DasEicast:got it !!04:26
callipygoushow do I get in to the grub boot menu?04:26
crivitedbian: never mind04:26
edbiancrivit, ha ha:) ok04:26
tikcallipygous: are you dual booting?04:26
Tux414dustin: I have wifi it just doesn't read the speed correctly.04:26
callipygoustik: no04:26
DasEicallipygous: left shift (grub2), might have to modify timeout04:26
xanguacallipygous: you keep pressing the Alt key when you start your pc i believe04:26
tikoh ok04:26
tiknm04:26
hrishismackmanic: Ha, I don't see the point of hiding the menu anyway.04:27
callipygousalt?04:27
tiki thoughtit was ESC?04:27
hylianles_ how can we help you?04:27
hrishixangua: oh, but what is the point!04:27
DasEitik: grub1 was Esc04:27
tiko04:27
tiksry04:27
les_@hylian I'm new to IRC, so just listening for now, thanks!04:27
crivitedbian:only trying to help04:27
deexannihilatexangua: yes. it is installed04:27
smackmanichrishi: i think it's just to tick you off04:27
callipygousah left shift worked, thanks :)04:28
hylianles: ok :)04:28
chilli0If I try: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/media there is no problems. But If i add this to my fstab i get bad fstype. Anyone know why?  /dev/sdb1 /media/media ntfs 0 004:28
DasEicallipygous:  modify timeout/spalsh  /etc/default/grub,  update-grub (as root) afterwards04:28
DasEicallipygous: be fine then04:28
edbiancrivit, Attempt appreciated :)04:28
hrishismackmanic: hope they change it in meerkat atleast.04:28
castchilli0: you're double posting.04:28
ubuntunoob? for any1:  Is there any good online radi streamer for ubuntu?04:29
smackmanichrishi: I hope this buggy update didn't eff me over on this OS04:29
smackmanic;)04:29
DasEichilli0: pastebin the whole fstab line04:29
chilli0DasEi, I did.04:29
chilli0Well , that is the whole line.04:29
tikdoes ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?04:29
hrishi:D04:29
chilli0cast, Because I want help, other chan hadn't offered anything so I asked here.04:29
dustinTux414,well try it anyways , i got lucky with a driver for my lappy, that i had been lookin for, and it was in the system bank, newly updated04:29
hylianchilli0: i know it's best to use the devices number than the /sdb1 bit, but i don't think that should be your problem. did you have to force this to mount in the past?04:29
tiksorry to bug you guys that was on a timer i disabledit04:29
hrishione more query. Why is it that ubuntu lucid is drinking battery power 40% or more when compared to "Windows 7"!!!! for crying out loud04:30
dustinTux414,some time later04:30
smackmanichrishi: hahahahahahaha I was just about to mention04:30
tikhrishi: did you set the screen brightness down and set the drive to spin down?04:30
castchilli0: but you cant be using *both* operating systems04:30
smackmanicthat apparently lucid doesn't handle CPU very well at all...let lucid stay installed as ur main OS for a year or so04:30
DasEichilli0: /dev/sdb1      /media/media ntfs  user,auto 0       004:30
ubuntunoob? for any1:  Is there any good online radio streamer for ubuntu?04:30
smackmanicit'll eat the graphics card up04:30
chilli0Thanks DasEi I shall try that now.04:31
DasEifore more possib's :04:31
smackmanicI've seen it happen to five mates so far, ones right now at the point of flickering screen04:31
chilli0cast, They work in the same way , ubuntu is based of debian.04:31
DasEi!fstab | chilli004:31
ubottuchilli0: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:31
les_@ubuntunoob If not, I believe there are Firefox addons04:31
ubuntunoobok ty :D04:31
crivitedbian: hacker talk is problemtic  sorry#04:31
tikis thi hdrive external?04:32
hrishiI heard the GPU runs at full speed and that 'might' be the problem? Is this true?04:32
tikyou shouldn't mount external hdrives with fstab04:32
Tux414dustin: 10.10 it works but on 10.4 it won't work my computer is an acer aspire 3810 TZ.04:32
hrishiIts mainly a kernel issue I guess as the same effect is present on fedora 13 as well04:32
edbiancrivit, No worries :)04:32
chilli0DasEi, Seemed to work so far. Thanks.04:32
ennuidoes anyone know of a channel dedicated to netbook discussion? I'd like to run a linux distro on a netbook but I was looking for advice as to which model netbook to invest in. was hoping for something powerful enough to playback 1080p mkv files in mplayer04:32
AlbertoPUruz: do not ping please04:32
smackmanichrishi..'might'........04:33
dustinTux414, whats wont again?  did you do my advice?04:33
DasEichilli0: np, nice04:33
smackmanicit'll fry the machine eventually04:33
hrishismackmanic: yeah ... thanks to todays cooling techniques, we're saved :D :D04:33
xanguaennui: netbooks normally are not designed to play HD videos04:33
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smackmanichrishi: idk...I've seen 5 laptops get fried by lucid so far, personally.04:34
hylian!fstab04:34
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:34
smackmanicaltho they were all dells..so i think it also has soemthing to do with a certain model of dell laptops04:34
crivitsmackmanic: fried???04:34
hrishismackmanic: wow! 5 ... this is bad ....04:34
smackmaniccrivit: basically made destroyed the monitor04:34
steph_Hi , a little trouble with compiz here with lucid,  if i create a shortcut in application at startup with the command "compiz --replace" , after starting a proccess is working in loop and I have my CPU at 34 ~40 % ... if instead I start without this and in a terminal : compiz --replace , I dont have trouble.. any idea?04:35
smackmanicmade the graphics card useless and did some damage to HD04:35
les_I'm on a Dell with Lucid now, and it works great...inspiron 640m...came with XP04:35
smackmanicthey were all dells...a certain model....I forget which04:35
Tux414dustin: could you please repeat your advice04:35
smackmanicles_, right, I don't think it's all dells04:35
smackmanicI'm using dell myself...an ancient desktop but a dell nonetheless04:35
dustingo to pm opk?04:35
smackmanicand I don't have cpu probs04:35
smackmanicexcept I don't have enough cpu...=p04:36
ennuixangua: I know they aren't normally but many new netbooks now have HD resolution screens04:36
giovWhat is the  __KDE__ sw that shows the hardware in a system - ex, USB hw info?  There used to be something called KControl in KDE3, but thatś gone.  - Iḿ unable to get connected to #KUbuntu.04:36
hylianles_ yeah the dell's, especially the dimension models seem to work really well with ubuntu.04:36
les_I lucked out, as I'm new to Linux, and my first try was on my Dell. If it hadn't gone well, I might not have switched.04:36
smackmanicles_...I think once I get ubuntu actually running again, I'm going to switch to debian04:37
smackmanicto be honest.04:37
tik99gioz: loa terminal and type lsusb04:37
les_Why....stability?04:37
xanguagiov: maybe because is not #KUbuntu is #kubuntu04:37
hrishismackmanic: is there 'any' solutions for this battery issue ... reducing the brightness and spinning down hard disks is just going around the problem, giving trouble to the user, than solving the problem! :D04:37
xanguagiov: you maybe need to register your nick¿04:37
smackmanicles_: yeah. everytime we update something in ubuntu something breaks04:37
smackmanicand ubuntu is terrible at handling the cpu compared to debian04:38
hylianles_ it also helps that dell seems to like using nvidia hardware. I'm running a self built machine, ubuntu 10.04 amd64 bit edition. runs great.04:38
les_smackmanic: do you have a lot of stuff installed?04:38
DasEigiov: for gnome it's gnome-device-manager, maybe search synaptic for kde ?04:38
tikdebian is an old distro ubuntu is virtual new comaired to sum give it time04:38
smackmanichrishi: they did that...idk if that actually helped any at all..see...the problem wasn't completely noticeable except the battery was very hot..then the monitor would randomly flicker...04:38
smackmanicso it sortof sneaks up on you04:38
les_hylian: good to know04:38
crivitsmackmanic:live cd is not really meant to be updated04:38
* bintut waves04:39
bintutwhat is your preferred filesystem when the clients are *nix and windows other than by using samba?04:39
smackmaniccrivit: I'm not even using livecd mate....04:39
edbianbintut, Windows only supports samba and ftp.  ftp is a security joke.04:39
hrishismackmanic: then I guess it still remains a problem! hmmmm......04:39
les_smackmanic: I'm a newbie, but I've installed on three PC's now several times, and it seems ok until I add other desktop environments04:39
smackmanichrishi: I would just google ur laptop model or whatever and CPU and ubuntu to check it out04:40
les_Such as KDE04:40
smackmanicles_: I'm usually fine unless I update anything at all04:40
hylianbintut i personally prefer ext 3 because there are some nice windows programs that can write to ext3.04:40
les_lol04:40
DasEibintut: ext304:40
smackmanicanytime I go for an update, ubuntu gives me the finger04:40
furythorHow well Nvidia Geforce 400 series graphics cards are supported in Ubuntu 10.04 ?04:41
smackmanichence I waited so long to update...04:41
bintutedbian: i'm asking for filesystem served or can be accessed over the lan04:41
les_smackmanic, what kind of system do you have?04:41
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jsimmonsshould be fine furythor.04:41
bintuthylian: it should be able to access from the lan04:41
smackmanicles_: a verrrry old dell dimension04:41
DasEifurythor: just check the nvidia homepage , and look for the xorg-version postet there, lucid is 1.7.504:41
tikanyone know free watemarking software for .avi fes?04:41
tikfiles04:41
furythorjsimmons: So basically if I buy new card, make fresh install etc, it should work flawlessly ?04:41
smackmanicim surprised my harddrive still works04:41
tikbintut: samba is your best be04:42
edbianbintut, yeah, either samba or ftp if you're using windows.  If you're over a lan than the ftp isn't such a horrible idea.  Samba is still much preferred.04:42
tikt04:42
xDATxany support yet for macbook pro?04:42
itsux2buwow.. i'm new to linux and ubuntu.. also wanted to try out wmplayer too.. found this.. its just what i needed.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/04:42
les_smackmanic, yes I hear Debian is much better for stability because they update very conservatively. Might work for you.04:42
jsimmonsShould do furythor, you'll have to install the nvidia restricted drivers before you can get 3D acceleration, or even possible full resolution. But yes.04:42
tikitsux2bu: I recommend sun virtual box it's freeware04:43
smackmanicles_: lol it doesn't bother me so much except these are common bugs and there seems to be not a lot of help in fixing them04:43
itsux2buso is vmplayer04:43
smackmanicand they don't exactly warn you up front...so most of the time it's a surprise04:43
furythorjsimmons: yeah I know that, just curious to know that I don't get expensive and useless graphics card for my system04:43
tikyou can create with vmplayer?04:43
DasEibintut: samba is most comfort, for throughput rsync and such are better, nas is little faster then samba, too04:43
smackmaniclike..this is a surprise, whats not a surprise? I promise you lucid does not include my sound modules.04:43
skumarai get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.04:43
dustinfurythor, yes:) i did it (most of the time ) try to install the set up vmware after to test it04:43
hylianbintut i know that software works locally, i have never used it over a network. technically it should work, but, i can't guarantee it04:43
les_smackmanic, I know what you mean. I've come to love Linux, but that is one HUGE issue that needs to be overcome.04:43
smackmanicor w/e we're on these days. I wouldn't know, I rebooted and now it's bunk lol04:44
tiksmackmanic: a lot of cards are supported04:44
tikthought04:44
tikwhat do you have?04:44
furythoranother question, AMD Phenom II x4 cpus work also on ubuntu 10.04 ?04:44
hyliani stumbled upon a version of android for pc, im gonna check it out. im hoping it wil make a nice little os for a kiosk type set up, mostly for my nephews.04:44
dustinfurythor, no 100% sucussed but if you do then you saved your self alot of time and moving files04:44
tikyou can tr some different models and see if they work for it04:44
DasEifurythor: yesss04:44
jsimmonsthey will work fine furythor.04:44
les_My download is finished. Going now, so I can try out Mint KDE on my wife's laptop04:45
itsux2bustarting with vmplayer v3 you can "create" vm's04:45
les_Good night, all!04:45
tikles: njo04:45
tiky04:45
hylian!bye | les_04:45
ubottules_: Au revoir!04:45
tikoh.. din't know that04:45
DasEiitsux2bu: pmm you ?04:45
hyliani don't know why i made ubottu say bye...04:46
steph_any one has met a compiz startup trouble after upgrading from karmic to lucid?04:46
smackmanicsorry had a phone call04:46
furythorokay, I may be getting upgrade for my computer so I would not need to "sulk" my slow'mo computer in Assembly10 ... *grin*04:46
skumarai get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.04:46
DasEiitsux2bu: may I pm you ?04:47
furythoranyhow I am off, it is 6:45 here and I gotta get some sleep...04:47
tiksmackmanic: what card do you have for audio? you can try it under a different model04:47
itsux2buDasEi yes04:47
asdfasdfasdfit's me again in dolphin when i right click the tar.gz i want to encrypt with kgpg it only gives me the option to encrypt it using a publick key :S, how could i create a private key? the generate options create two both public and private,i'm not intending to distribute my encrypted file and much less make it available publicly so what do you suggest?04:47
xDATxHow different is it to go from Ubuntu to Debian?04:48
smackmanictik: it's a creative sb live card04:48
tikcreative sound be covered04:48
tikhd on04:48
tikhold04:48
smackmanicxDATx: not very much difference IMO, I use debian off and on, with another machine04:48
steph_the repository xDaTx04:48
xDATxI am halfwayu through Linux-Tutorial.info04:48
hylian"We want to get rid of laptop-mode-tools. We want to make pm-utils the04:48
hyliansingle point of implementing power management features."04:48
xDATxwant to get my linux + by the end of October04:48
smackmanicit is just as friendly as ubuntu...quite a bit more stable04:48
smackmanicbut if ubuntu works, let it work I say04:49
bdrum_I am getting a hard lock at logout (keyboard unresponsive, need to hard boot) - I am thinking GDM is at fault.  I checked the logs but can't see anything particular.  Any ideas of next step?04:49
tikwhat is /etc/modprobe.d/asla-base.conf say ?04:49
tikis/does04:49
dustinsteph_,i think.. what is compiz again?04:49
castasla/alsa ;)04:49
xDATxWhere I work the LAN engineers are pushing me to use Slackware but it is too crude for my taste.04:49
xDATxYou have to do everything so manually.04:50
smackmanicxDATx: I will say this, one thing for me that's an issue....ubuntu devs will literally alter code on some programs so they wont import mp3s (yes, this is true. i've inquired canonical about it.)04:50
edbianxDATx, Debian is older.  You'll notice that right away.  Using them is pretty much the same.  Debian gets out of your way a little more I think.  Once you've moved in to the distro though there is almost no difference besides the release cycle.04:50
smackmanicsuch as a DAW program.04:50
castxDATx: they're "LAN" engineers. tell them to sod off04:50
xDATxsmackmanic, edbian ok cool thanks04:51
xDATxI'll give it a try04:51
crivitxDATx: debian will keep you onyour toes04:51
edbianxDATx, How anybody could stand using a distro without a package manager is beyond me.04:51
smackmanictik sorry I didn't see your question.ummm, gee, I'd love to tell you, except ubuntu won't boot right now.04:51
xDATxhow about updates are they as current at Ubuntu?04:51
steph_dustin , with karmic , compiz was launched at start , with the comand "compiz --replace" in the menu application at startup , but with this way after starting , my cpu is working at 30% with a proccess in loop , if i dont use this command at startup menu , but instead , the command compiz -replace in a terminal , then all is ok04:51
hylianedbian if im not mistaked debian comes with apt-get.04:51
castedbian: and how it became the number 1 OS like that is also beyond me!04:51
smackmanicwhenever I get some help on a simple grub issue I will be sure to letcha know mate04:51
edbianhylian, I was talking about slackware04:51
edbiancast, ha ha :)04:52
smackmanicedbian, .debs are very friendly..04:52
hylianedbian im totally with you there.04:52
crivitcast: it was around long before others!!!04:52
castoh, we aren't talking about windows?04:52
castfor what its worth, slackware and debian are quite similar in age04:52
smackmanicaltho it's def nice to have a gui and click click...and have everything together so you can go to the terminal and just sudo apt04:52
tikoh ok04:52
smackmanicbut..eh04:52
tiksmackmanic: oh ok04:52
DasEi!latest | xDATx04:52
ubottuxDATx: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.04:52
tiksmackmanic:put in a live cd and mount the partition :P04:53
smackmanictik: :)04:53
hyliani can't wrap my head around debian's website. so many packages. i want something that says, oh you want this this and this. not, ohh, here's a million possible packages, and you figure it out.04:53
DasEixDATx: you can, on your own risk, add newer repos for things you want/need04:53
tiksmackmanic: why won't it boot?04:53
smackmanichaha for the dozenth time..livecd not an option..i have the solution! I'm too stupid to do it without a walkthru! hahaha04:53
crivitcast: age... but not usability04:53
xDATxupdates are very frequent I noticed in Ubuntu. Including kernel updates whats up with that?04:53
tikmaybe I can help04:53
crivitcast: age... but not usability04:53
smackmanicmate I can send you a link...the fix is fairly simple, I'm just doing something wrong04:53
smackmanicsomething is 'off04:53
smackmanic'off'04:53
edbianhylian, I know, 23 CD's the first time I saw that I was like what the hell?04:54
tikurl me to the location of theworkaround04:54
DasEihylian: google perfect desktop04:54
tikand ill PM you04:54
casthylian: damn that choice.04:54
castdebian having a lot of software packaged for it is *not* an argument against it.04:54
xDATxI am on a D620 latitude so I don't really have any hardware issues. Everything works out of the box.04:55
tikanyone know of simple watermarking software? even colsole im game04:55
castif it were, then the distros without package management would be winning04:55
tikDA: same with an asus laptop04:55
bintutthanks guys for your suggestion04:55
hyliancast i like choice, and i like direction. a city like los angeles and no road map = chaotic.04:55
BentFranklinUbu is calling my SATA drive a SCSI.  That's ok right?04:56
casthylian: pose a hypothetical software selection problem and i'll pose a hypothetical solution04:56
bintutactually, i was waiting for someone who will be suggesting sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc.. but no one able to mention it as i already explicitly except for samba04:56
castBentFranklin: yes.04:56
edbianbintut, Those don't work with windows.04:56
UltraParadigmAnyone know if there is a Shared Linking Library for Qt to run Qt apps?04:56
smackmanictik: sorry mate, am using windows and java..you know how that goes...04:57
smackmanichttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html scroll to the bottom, 2nd to last post04:57
hyliancast maybe you can help me then. i have an interest in debian, i want to start with a functional gui desktop os. where in debian.org do i begin?04:57
casthylian: during the debian install, you had the option to select 'tasks', one of them was 'desktop environment', it was ticked by default in the installer04:58
smackmanicyah04:58
crivitcast: yeah04:58
DasEihylian: #debian is there , ubuntu is debian based and most popular, for general linux quests, join #linux04:58
BentFranklinMy first install crashed in the installer.  The traceback mentioned something called ubituity a lot.  I was installing from the Live CD.  I'm installing straight from the CD now.  I hope that works.04:58
bdrum_does anyone know the best way to completely disable GDM in ubuntu?04:58
shivminitube: finally everything works but the video colors are so different with different hues. How do I fix this?04:59
casthylian: if you installed via a more exotic method, such as debootstrap, or a .tar, you can run tasksel manually, or, better imho, aptitude install gnome xorg04:59
hyliancast but that requires more bandwidth than i have. i download iso's from my library and then use them at home. i need something i can have totally ready and available without reconnecting to the net and downloading for 7 hours before i get everything installed. debian should make a ubuntu-ish desktop cd with most used software ready to go.04:59
smackmanichylian: it really is much friendly than you'd think..just you have to get used to not using synaptic and such. that's my opinion. I use it for sound editing because as I said, ubuntu devs took it upon themselves to edit software so that id have to import a 300mb wav sample while I have 5 VSTi's open and CPU maxin out04:59
smackmanic;)04:59
bazhanghylian, cast #debian please04:59
casthylian: if you get the first debian dvd, it will contain all you need for a graphical desktop05:00
bazhangcast, ?05:00
smackmaniccast: no competition05:00
bintutedbian: they actually work, well.. out of the box as you need to enable or install something for windows will be able to access the "shared" folder that sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc. filesystems served on the linux server05:00
smackmaniclet's be Microsoft. no debian talk! even though we're based on it05:00
hylianbazhang, thanx you are right this is a discussion for another channel, and thank you cast for the info05:00
smackmanicbwaha05:00
crivitcast: the first DVD will set you up05:01
castyeah...you're right bazhang, what was i thinking :) why would i want hylian using debian!05:01
crivitcast: the first debian* #DVD will set you up05:01
hylianLOL05:01
smackmaniccast, i know. soooo stupid!05:01
hyliancast ;)05:01
asdfasdfasdfcast why do kgpg creates a public key by default, dont i need only a private key if im not intending to distribute the file?05:01
hylianbut ubuntu is only debian "ish", LOL.05:02
castasdfasdfasdf: most people want a public key, so it does it by default05:02
smackmanicnah uh05:02
smackmanicdebian is ish05:02
smackmanicubuntu is bug05:02
fitoriasmackmanic, troll05:02
smackmanicfitoria: doubtful05:02
crivitSO TO METION DEBIAN IS TROLING?05:03
crivithow sad05:03
fitoriacrivit, not at all05:03
bazhangcrivit, its offtopic and lose the caps05:03
smackmanicI've been coming here for 2 days trying to get help editing grub properly because there is a bug in the ubuntu update. as you can imagine, it's been a bit stressful mate. just a bit.05:03
hylianubuntu might be considered a "bug" by some of the more pure debian people, but i think it's the os that's gonna have a chance at taking any real marketspace away from MS.05:04
smackmanichylian: it def already has, for sure05:04
crivitsmackmanic: well unless ubuntu has fixed it   you wont get any help!05:04
DasEismackmanic: 3 people gave you same advices, and also you don't anwer questions clear, that might be a issue05:05
smackmanicjust like MS took market from MAC...not exactly a win win05:05
bazhang!ot05:05
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!05:05
DasEi:)05:05
crivithehe05:05
smackmanicDasEi: I specifically said livecd is not an option. I requested -very- specific help on the grub boot option lol05:05
Gnea!attitude | crivit05:05
hyliansmackmanic, are you still having grub problems? does grub not load when you install? i had that problem because i am using both an ati drive and a sata drive05:05
smackmanicyou have my EXACT error msgs verbatim on the forum posts.05:05
ubottucrivit: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines05:05
smackmanichylian: grub loads, ubuntu won't boot05:06
crivitstop spaming  ubuntu bot05:06
Gneasmackmanic: is there a url for that?05:06
smackmanicI need to edit the boot...but it's been a bit since I've messed with this machine, I've no idea what I'm doing, I tried editing a few times, I'm sure I'm doing it wrong05:06
hylianati drive, i yiy yiy, eidi.05:06
DasEismackmanic: and from busybox this won't be done, so either hook the cd to another sys or consider backup/fresh install05:06
smackmanicDasEi: why are you dodging my grub edit LOL05:06
smackmanicGnea: certainly. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html05:07
smackmanicnotice it's the ubuntu forums. telling me how to fix it.05:07
hyliansmackmanic is it giving you an error, what exactly is it doing?05:07
smackmanichylian: when you jump from 8.04 to the latest ver it messes with your boot options. some weird bug that they haven't taken out05:07
smackmanicwon't recognize the UUID (ubuntu is pretty uuid-centric, which makes it hard for me to understand how to fix the boot)05:08
Random832smackmanic: just fix it to use the /dev - there's only like two places05:08
smackmanicand the 2nd to last post has the fix05:08
smackmanicRandom832: right, I believe I'm typing it wrong, though.05:09
Random832[assuming that you don't have the scsi/usb situation that amkes the uuids necessary]05:09
hyliansmackmanic this should not happen, but i have seen it one time before (don't ask me how) but the uuid changed when i went from ubu 6 to ubu 8.05:09
smackmanicthat's what I've been trying to get help with...I believe I'm editing the boot incorrectly05:09
Gneasmackmanic: oh WOW, that's quite a problem..05:09
Random832smackmanic: what are you doing?05:09
itsux2bucurrent version of ubuntu?  or most stable version is?05:09
smackmanichylian: yeah..seems to be a jump update bug, reccurring, just like me sound modules ;)05:10
hyliansmackmanic have another os you can check the uuid with?05:10
DasEismackmanic: see my last comment, from that state can use a manual root (e inn grub), but won't access anything else05:10
smackmanicnot exactly hylian05:10
smackmanicDasEi: hold on05:10
hyliansmackmanic what happens when you use the generic drive "name" instead, like /dev/sdb1/ ?05:10
chilli0DasEi, Hey , what you said didn't work =S05:11
smackmanicDasEi: are you saying e grub is completely useless?05:11
chilli0ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument @DasEi05:11
DasEismackmanic: you're currently talking froma box , which os ? usb stick around ?05:11
smackmanichylian, i get errors...i think i'm just doing something incorrectly tho05:11
smackmanicsigh05:11
smackmanica box05:11
DasEismackmanic: no, it's not, you can pass the location of /boot there05:12
administradorhola05:12
hyliansmackmanic maybe fstab is screwed up? i had that problem before. an ugly fix is to boot from the ubuntu cd and then copy over the cd's fstab. but it works.05:12
smackmanicDasEi....okay then...which is what the post is about...05:12
smackmanichylian: right, the issue is that this machine does not have enough space for the livecd nor do I have blanks atm05:13
smackmanicthe easiest route would be to CORRECT the boot info and then perm fix it all once ur actually in ubuntu05:13
Random832what errors? in grub or after?05:13
smackmanicRandom832: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html there ya go mate, have a gander, it's fun to read05:13
hyliansmackmanic, dang. heh, if i was ther i would you damn small linux, cause once it's booted you can remove the cd. lol.05:13
smackmanicbut no, after grub05:14
smackmanichylian, lol DSL ftw05:14
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, what's the problem you're having?05:14
DasEichilli0: did you set a dir /media/media  and owned it to regular user ?05:14
hyliansmackmanic i dont know waht ftw means.05:14
smackmanicI just want to fix my grub boot options...I'm obviously too stupid to correctly edit it though, I'm either formatting it wrong or something is just 'off'05:14
smackmanichylian: for the win.05:14
cwillu_at_workcan't mount the root device or something like that?05:14
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: see link.05:15
smackmanicnope05:15
smackmanicnothing seems to mount05:15
Random832ok, what edits are you trying to make to the grub conf exactly? you didn't answer before05:15
cwillu_at_workdo you know what /dev device it usually is?05:15
cwillu_at_work/dev/sda1 or something like that?05:15
Random832as in, _what_ exactly did you replace with _what_05:15
chilli0DasEi, I'm checking that now.05:15
cwillu_at_workcan you boot it from the grub prompt if you edit it from hand at the actual prompt?05:15
administradorHOLA ALGUIEN HABLA ESPANOL05:15
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: I know on this machine ubuntu was installed second. it's a dual boot with windows05:16
DasEi!es | administrador05:16
ubottuadministrador: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.05:16
smackmanicso I have to assume sda2, but I could be completely wrong05:16
chilli0DasEi, Ehhh. It's owned to : 005:16
Random832smackmanic: uh... is there a way to check? boot the livecd?05:16
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: I'm trying to do that, if I understand you correctly05:16
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, I have to run right away, but if you're still around in an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee we can get it fixed05:16
Random832[actually, fstab _should_ say in a comment]05:16
smackmanicagain, livecd is NOT an option atm05:16
smackmaniclol05:16
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, do you know if you're running grub 1 or 2?05:16
smackmanic105:16
cwillu_at_work(1.97 or whatever counts as 2)05:16
Random832smackmanic: well, how _are_ you getting in to edit the conf?05:17
smackmanicim below 2 for sure05:17
DasEichilli0: sudo chown -R ('$user') /media/media05:17
Random832i'm confused now05:17
smackmanicim just pressing e when im on grub05:17
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, are you around in a couple hours?05:17
smackmanicediting it05:17
smackmanicthen pressing b05:17
hyliansmackmanic i am assuming you tried restoring grub?05:17
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: at this rate, eys05:17
smackmanic*yes05:17
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, try variations of root=/dev/sda205:17
cwillu_at_workrather than root=UUID=asdfasdfasdfas05:17
smackmanichylian: nah uh, I can't update or install anything in this shape..05:17
cwillu_at_workstep through 1, 2, 3, 4, 505:18
Random832and try different drives, too - sda5 maybe05:18
Random832if you don't know05:18
itsux2buwhats  ubuntu server?  is that with a webpage server built-in?  like taking a ubuntu desktop distro and something like apache server and fusing the 2 together?05:18
cwillu_at_workif it doesn't work by five, give up until I get back :p05:18
DasEichilli0: sudo chown -R $USER /media/media ,wrong os ^05:18
smackmanici tried 1 and 2....im not even messing with the UUIDs05:18
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, if you're still in channel, I'll send you a pm05:18
smackmanicI will say that it automatically goes back to (hd0,4)05:18
chilli0DasEi, kay. Wont work right now =P I dont have sudo set up.05:18
DasEiitsux2bu: it's another flavor of ubu, server-orientated05:18
cwillu_at_workediting it from there isn't permanent05:18
smackmanicwhich I'm not sure wth is going on there, i thought it should say 0,005:19
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, you've been able to boot it though?05:19
itsux2bucost money?05:19
smackmaniccwillu...get those errors and get sent to busybox shell05:19
cwillu_at_workokay05:19
smackmanicso depends on how ya wanna look at it05:19
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DasEi!who | itsux2bu: nope05:19
ubottuitsux2bu: nope: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:19
cwillu_at_work0,4 corresponds to /dev/sda5 (a = 0, 4 = 5 (counting from 1 instead of 0)05:19
cwillu_at_workokay, I'll be back in a bit :)05:19
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: so mayue 5 then, eh?05:19
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, can't hurt to try05:20
DasEichilli0: how's that ? see man visudo05:20
smackmanicmaybe 5 shall be our lucky number05:20
smackmanichylian: I have a question you could probably answer05:20
chilli0DasEi, Got it now. But still not happening. I tried sudo mount -a05:20
DasEichilli0: how did you edit fstab then ?05:20
smackmanicit's about the formatting of the boot option05:20
itsux2buubottu, if i download ubuntu server.. can i install apache on it?05:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:20
chilli0DasEi,  Logged in as root.05:20
itsux2buubottu oh sry05:21
chilli0DasEi, Still get , ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument05:21
DasEichilli0: shouldn't do it , give regular user sudo-access05:21
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chilli0Yeah I just did.05:22
DasEichilli0: paste fstab line again ? ntfs-3g installed ?05:22
smackmanicbleh I'll wing it, but I swear I'm formatting the option wrong....but maybe not05:22
adalalhey, I have a weird problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago05:22
smackmanicbrb05:22
hyliansmackmainc i was trying to dig up a bit of code for grub i found this: /sbin/grub-install --recheck /dev/hda. this sometimes helps. what was your question05:22
chilli0DasEi, I did install ntfs-3g yeah. http://pastebin.com/7kcUprpQ05:22
Anvoidi upgraded to a newer kernel, 2.6.35, from 2.6.33. now both my monitor can't be detected using the Monitor manager. is there a way to fix this? if not, how could i revert back to my old kernel 2.6.33?05:23
DasEichilli0: that's not the line I gave you..05:23
adalalanvoid, you can select the older kernel in grub05:23
adalaland then delete it05:23
chilli0DasEi,  O= Some one else said to change it after  my bad.05:23
adalalAnvoid: or rather, apt-get delete the new kernel05:24
DasEichilli0: /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 005:24
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chilli0DasEi, Win so far.05:25
chilli0DasEi, Nop =P Cant open that dir now. ( media/media05:25
Anvoidadalal: E: Invalid operation delete05:25
adalalAnvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove05:26
chilli0Perm's changed owner magicly.05:26
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DasEichilli0: regular username ?05:26
chilli0media05:26
DasEichilli0: sudo chown -R NameHere /media/media05:26
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DasEichilli0: sudo chown -R media  /media/media05:27
chilli0Yeah that will work. But if I reboot?05:27
adalalAnvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove <insert kernel image, kernel headers if installed, and all things related to the .35 kernel>05:27
DasEichilli0: it stays05:27
DasEiand automounts05:27
the_foolhello everyone trying to watch a movie with the family, but I just found out that plugging in speakers to the lap-top doesn't actually do anything, sound still comes through the laptop I did a quick google search, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know a quick fix? thanks.05:27
chilli0Oh call.05:27
adalalhey, I have got a problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago05:27
chilli0Cool *05:27
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adalalthe_fool: do you have padevchooser installed?05:27
UltraParadigmHow can I add something to my PATH?05:27
ridinhow do i uninstall fonts05:27
the_fooladalal, give me one sec I'll check05:28
NemesisDwhat is the general command line way to set up a bash script to run at startup05:28
DasEithe_fool: or try pavucontrol05:28
the_fooladalal, no I'll install it now05:28
adalaloh yeah, pavucontrol..05:28
ridin!fonts05:28
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer05:28
adalalthe_fool: dont worry, just start up pavucontrol.. go to output devices, and choose the headphone port05:29
UltraParadigm!ubottu PATH05:29
adalalthe_fool: headphone would instanteously work for me to, until the last upgrade05:29
DasEiNemesisD: either generate a script in /etc/init or call it in rc.local (cronjob another option) depends on desired task05:29
smackmanicanywho. getting error 23 parsing errors on all sd's...i read earlier on the ubuntu site itself actually that grub might throw these errors and others if it weren't run as root.. DasEi mentioned it'd have to already be root considered im editing it..but i am suspicious05:29
hylian_sorry running android from virtualbox locked up ubuntu, lol.05:29
UltraParadigm!ubottu path05:29
smackmanicit's either I'm formatting the strings wrong, (possible) or grub on boot is not root. I'm not familair with grub, so that could be complete rubbish...05:30
the_fooladalal, k about to try it, hope it works thanks a bunch :)05:30
hylian_smackmanic actually i read something on it, i thin the command to allow it to run as root is/was chroot /mnt/drive (drive neing like, sda1, etc) but dont quote me on that05:30
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Anvoidadalal: the kernel i'm removing is the one i'm currently running on. if i remove it, will ubuntu revert back to another version automatically or will my system become unstable?05:30
smackmanici might even be into rm -rf this thing but hey can't get to /home to backup anything ! lol05:30
adalalAnvoid: it will become unstable..05:31
DasEismackmanic: one last time: in your current state, initramfs drops you to busybox, so any checks necessary won't work from there, so first find a suitable way to acces the fs on the hd05:31
smackmanichylian_...I'll google it05:31
cijucanyone having bandwidth limited with usb modem connections05:31
adalalAnvoid: you need to be on a different kernel (ideally, the one that's working properly)05:31
chilli0DasEi, Sweet as. That seems to have mounted fine and all good. Only thing now is samba not playing nicely with it. path=/media/media/Movies05:31
cijucthe modem gives around 200KBps on windows05:31
smackmanicDasEi: yeah...which is why I said earlier, busybox is not so useful IMO05:31
the_fooladalal, now there's no sound...05:31
adalalthe_fool: even with the headphones?05:32
cijucbut on ubuntu lucid, its max is around 54KBps05:32
smackmanichere's a shell, now go boot in livecd. haha05:32
adalalthe_fool: what are the ports present?05:32
thune3Anvoid: you have 2.6.32/33 old kernel still installed? also (maybe run "sudo update-grub") if it didn't get automatically run after uninstalling 2.6.3605:32
ThePlaneskeeperI have a server using a 1GB Compact Flash card as the main HDD, with most of the content for the server (IE: var/ folders) on an external HDD (there is logic to this madness).  The 1GB card has become too small (after 4+ years of exceptional service), so now i have a 4GB card, is it possible to just use a command (on a secondary PC running ubuntu with 2 card readers) to transfer everything to the new card, without doing a 05:32
UltraParadigmIs there a command to show/modify the $PATH?05:32
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the_fooladalal, analog headphone and analog otput05:33
the_fooloutput*05:33
adalaldo you get sound on the headphones in output?05:33
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hylian_smackmanic anything i can do from here, besides wave my magic wand? i feel for you man, having been in the little or no resources without a paddle boat before.05:33
adalalthe_fool: do you get sound on the headphone on the output port?05:33
DasEichilli0: you speak about smb.conf ?05:34
the_fooladalal, no before I would get sound through laptop even when speakers are plugged in. now I picked analog headphones and when speaker is plugged in I get no sound at all, don't know if this is a step in the right or wrong direction : /05:34
smackmanichylian_: bleh I'm just googling this root grub stuff...I had a big suspicious that i needed to do root myself05:34
chilli0DasEi, This is the part of the file for samba. http://pastebin.com/VzAQP32305:34
smackmanicbut i'd be told twice by someone here that of course grub automatically is root.eh05:34
chilli0DasEi, Yeah I do =O05:34
adalalthe_fool: no no, what I meant is that did you get sound on the headphones and the speakers on the output mode?05:34
hylian_smackmanic ohh yeah, in order to use chroot, you have to be root, true. he he, oops05:34
adalalthe_fool: or just the speakers, and not the headphones?05:35
the_fooladalal, oh, just laptop05:35
hylian_smackmanic but you are not signed in as grub though.05:35
adalalthe_fool: go on the terminal, and go to alsa_mixer05:35
adalalwait05:35
smackmanichylian_: I'm just so unfamiliar with grub...gotta figure out a way to ensure i'm root when editing grub so i can rule out the errors being bogus05:35
hylian_smackmanic i could request a cd for you, LOL.05:36
DasEichilli0: no blanks guest = ...,  and the subdir Movies exist ? not movies or sth ?05:36
adalalthe_fool: hit 'alsamixer' (w/o the quotes)05:36
smackmanicbecause that was the first thing I read on ubuntuhowto guide for grub (yes, I read all of this before asking questions.)05:36
adalalthe_fool: and keep pavucontrol up on the side as well05:36
smackmanichylian_, nah, I could get a disk..I'm just trying to fix it in less than a month05:36
hylian_smackmanic so what happens if you try to sudo su?05:36
chilli0DasEi, Yeah Movies does exist. I want anyone be able to access that so guest = everyone?05:36
smackmanicwell I have not tried sudo or su in grub cmd line05:36
smackmanicbut busybox does have not sudo or su05:37
smackmanic*does not05:37
the_fooladalal, ok got both up05:37
smackmanicit's actually quite a lazybox05:37
adalalthe_fool: what are the levels in the alsamixer?05:37
timonsudo makes you superuser05:37
timonsu is used to switch user05:37
smackmanictimon: I am aware05:37
hylian_smackmanic busybox? i thought that was another distro, arent you trying to fix a ubuntu grub install?05:37
DasEichilli0: guest ok = yes   to guest ok=yes      , and         cd && cd /media/media/Movies            (??/home/media/media/media/Movies!!) works ?05:37
* maco thinks sudo should be aliased to simonsays05:37
teageCant watch movie DVDs anymore. Im running Lucid and my movie player starts then suddenly stops. Any help would be greatly helpful.05:38
smackmanichylian_: busybox is apparrently what comes up when everything fails05:38
timonSo why you asking?05:38
smackmanicI'm not entirely should how it's  helpful, because even the busybox defenders tell me to get a livecd.05:38
hylian_smackmanic hmm, interesting.05:38
the_fooladalal,  master: 90, headphone: 100  pcm: 99  other 3: 005:38
DasEiteage: start vlc from trml,  message error output05:38
BentFranklinOn the brand new installed desktop there's a rectangle called Desktop Folder.  I accidentally X'd it away and can't get it back.  But I can still put icons and files on the background window.  So, what doe Desktop Folder do for me and do I need / should I want it back?05:38
digital_niteexit05:38
smackmanicbut I appreciate ubuntu not including fsck with busybox. must've slipped their minds when they edited it out of the standard busybox package lol05:39
teageK DasEi05:39
adalalthe_fool: each time you switch the port on pavucontrol, those levels switch as well... I suggest you try and manipulate some of the levels on alsamixer, esp. the headphone, pcm and other05:39
adalalthe_fool: literally configure the volumes for each port05:40
the_fooladalal, k i'll check it out, thanks a ton for the support :)05:40
chilli0DasEi,   cd && cd /media/media/Movies            works fine yes. I think its somethign to do with the perms on the files. Because I have another folder that I'm sharing and the same settings work fine.05:40
hylian_smackmanic uuis mismatches are way more common than i had come to believe. this might be your problem.05:40
smackmanicI'll be right back. I need to smoke a nasty cigarette so I can concentrate on reading all this grub info05:40
smackmanichylian_: before ubuntu i'd never even seen UUIDs used like this..05:40
DasEichilli0: so if no security concerns hinder you, chown the whole /media/media to user media again05:41
smackmanicso i'm completely unfam with how that all works05:41
chilli0Shall do.05:41
erik14213ushi05:41
smackmanicbrb05:41
chilli0DasEi, In progress.05:41
teagevlc starts right up in terminal yet when i try playing the DVD this is my output,  main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called05:41
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erik14213usdid ubuntu 10.04 fix the karmaic video problem05:41
FloodBot1!netsplit05:41
smackmanicglad i didnt get up from sit just yet05:42
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:42
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hylian_smackmanic i prefer them, if you have more than one drive like me, and they are mismatches, ubuntu has a terrible habit of turning a sda1 on one boot to a sdb1 on the next, and then ubuntu says it cant mount sda1 because it doesnt exist. uuid stops this, my personal beast.05:42
erik14213usi tried 9.1005:42
ridinok, the sound settings are gone from the panel, how do i add it back05:42
smackmanichylian_: ah05:42
erik14213usan the screen would go black during start up an go no further05:42
hylian_!uuid05:43
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)05:43
smackmaniclemme smoke!!!05:43
smackmanicahhhhh05:43
smackmanic=p05:43
ridinwell, what's the command for the sound05:43
* smackmanic is away for the next 5 to 7 mins05:43
erik14213usim using computer with intel onboard video05:43
hylian_smackmanic go have a puff and clear your head05:43
ridinwell, what's the command for the sound panel to appear, gnome-sound-indicator-applet?05:43
erik14213usdoes anyone know if the start up problem was fixed05:44
MaRk-Ierik14213us: if you get a black screen after grub, reboot and press the shift key then F6 select the first line and add "i915.modeset=0" to the grub after "quiet splash"05:44
erik14213usanyone here05:44
DasEiteage : from vlc forums could be a broken disc, did you try to put the video-ts to desktop and play it directly ?05:45
erik14213usi thought 10.04 fixed that05:45
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Guest373any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?05:45
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erik14213usi have no idea on editing grub05:46
MaRk-Ierik14213us: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/05:46
erik14213usi thought in 10.0405:46
teagethe disc works fine on my windows machine DasEi. I suspect codecs05:46
erik14213usthe issue would be fixed05:46
DasEiteage: from the way you asked I assume libdvdcss2 was installed previously, anyway vlc is dvd-able in default05:46
cijucwhere could i get help on net connectivity/bandwidth debugging05:46
erik14213usits ok05:47
erik14213usill reinstall 9.0405:47
DasEiteage: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras05:47
teageCould be something to with my upgrade too. just recently upgraded from karmic05:47
simbadHi after changing the theme color gnome frozed and i had to alt+print+k after that i cannot login to gnome. Im in xterm session now plese help05:47
erik14213usits sad ubuntu never fixed that issue05:47
Guest373any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?05:48
chilli0DasEi,  Almost got It. I can now get into the folder and all after chowing the file ( on the client I can open /Movies and see all of the files) But I dont have any permitions to open the file.05:48
smackmanicnasty addiction. give me a min to read thru some grub info05:48
erik14213usi guess ubuntu do stupid05:49
ridinhow do i get the sound icon back in the panel?05:49
DasEiteage: http://pastebin.com/hrd2pQbt05:49
hylian_smackmanic i think this is kind of a similar problem, and might help you solve your problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/dropped-into-busybox-shell-after-modifying-install-597774/05:49
MaRk-Ierik14213us: I gave you the work around/fix, if you have any more ubuntu problems state them otherwise please use the off topic channel05:49
administrator_hello05:49
DasEichilli0: user media exist on the remote box ?05:49
erik14213usubuntu 9.04 aint for newbies05:50
smackmanichylian_: I think I may have read that last nite but I will check it out. by the way 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.'05:50
hylian_erik14213us hey man are you having trouble editing your grub file?05:50
erik14213us10.04 aint for newbies05:50
smackmanicwould this mean my second partition is actually hd0,1...?05:50
erik14213usyes im newbie to all this05:50
DasEiteage: sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu libdvdcss205:51
chilli0DasEi, On the client?05:51
DasEichilli0: yes05:51
hylian_erik14213us linux is not for newbies. but thats why this chat exists, and there are so many forums, so that your status of newbie quickly vanishes.05:51
chilli0No.05:51
DasEichilli0: so create it , sudo adduser media05:52
erik14213usi just thought the issue would be fixed05:52
erik14213usin new releases05:52
DasEichilli0: a more dirty way is to make the files world-readable05:52
chilli0DasEi,  I don't want to have to do that. I am doing this whole thing for a lot of clients , windows , ubuntu , and mac clients.05:52
chilli0DasEi,  That way sounds best.05:52
DasEichilli0: your coice05:52
ZykoticK9ridin, assuming 10.04 - right click / add to panel / indicator applet05:53
hylian_erik14213us here is a nice help guide for making additions to grub: http://www.ehow.com/how_2251661_edit-grub-menu-ubuntu.html05:53
chilli0DasEi, How can I do the second option?05:53
smackmanichylian_ 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.' would mean my 2nd partition is hd0,1..or am i reading that wrong05:53
DasEichilli0: sudo chmod 777 /media/media/Movies/someFile.avi05:53
chilli0for each and every file?05:53
smackmaniccurrently its set to 0,4...that may have been me or it may be a bug or it may be correct05:53
chilli0Nooooot going to happen =P ( over 400 files there)05:53
erik14213usok05:54
ridinZykoticK9, there mail icon is there, so it seems i already have the indicator applet05:54
h2ouphey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers05:54
chilli0DasEi, Wouldn't I just have to change the perm's of guest? Because I'm logging in as guest via samba.05:54
erik14213usis ubuntu going to fix this05:54
erik14213usin later releases05:54
smackmanicerik14213us: ;)05:54
magnesiumIs there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?05:54
hylian_smackmanic i think thats right.05:54
simbadmy gnome-seesion uses 100% of cpu and doesent start the desktop. can someone help me please05:55
DasEichilli0: keep in mind this is a security risk, you can also do it for all05:55
cjschilli0 try chmod 777 *.avi05:55
smackmanicerik14213us: I'm sure compiz will be improved greatly for sure. but my guess for you, not anytime soon05:55
ZykoticK9ridin, if you see mail that is correct.  did you try to uninstall pulse audio or something?  how did you loose it?05:55
DasEichilli0: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/media/Movies/05:55
hylian_erik14213us i dont know, but you can report this as a bug, although it might already exist as a bug...05:55
ridinZykoticK9, i don't know05:55
smackmanichylian_: coincidentally, -this- is reported as bug...and was moved over to questions05:55
ZykoticK9ridin, is audio working?05:55
erik14213usit seems there programmers are to stupid to fix it05:56
erik14213ussorry05:56
chilli0chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/schoolassignmentavi': Operation not supported05:56
jfcaronIf I have a tar.gz (or tar.bz2) archive, is there a way to "untar" it while leaving the files inside compressed with gz (or bz2)?05:56
ridinZykoticK9, yep perfectly05:56
hylian_erik14213us it may be that by fixing your bug they open a whole other can of worms, i don't know.05:56
ZykoticK9chilli0, if that is on a FAT/NTFS it won't understand linux permissions.05:56
chilli0It's NTFS however its mounted under ntfs-3g05:57
MaRk-Ihylian_: stop feeding the troll05:57
KwikkSilvahmm - this driving me nutes05:57
erik14213usso linux themn aint for older hardware05:57
erik14213usubuntu i meant05:57
Derragonjfcaron, Considering that the .tar.gz is an archive, you have to decompress the whole thing. If there are compresed files within that, it should not uncompress them automatically.05:57
ZykoticK9ridin, does "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" show as installed?05:57
hylian_smackmanic have you ever seen ubuntu's #1 bug? :) it's ms windows. they say the fix is to install ubuntu ;)05:57
KwikkSilvaWhen theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC05:57
KwikkSilvaany ideas?05:57
picard1421anyone know anything about pam face authentication im having a problem wiith the KDM plugin???05:57
smackmanichylian_: grant you this, ubuntu over windows ANY day05:57
erik14213usif u got to in an edit grub05:57
fbencosmehi05:57
DasEichilli0: no, once samba let's you acces and list the dir, these are the local permissions then, errm smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 77705:57
hylian_Mark-I who is thr troll, im just trying to be friendly/helpfull, sorry05:58
jfcaronDerragon: So I'll have to tar -xzf the archive, then gzip the individual files after that?05:58
smackmaniceven though ubuntu completely screws me over on audio....in ways that it has control over, not an issue of needing to catch up05:58
smackmanici still dig it05:58
fbencosmeI got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?05:58
sweetpichilli0: 777 is world _writable_, you know this?05:58
chilli0sweetpi, Yes.05:58
ridinZykoticK9, i see "Installed: (none)" so i assume i don't have it05:58
Derragonjfcaron, That seems right, yes. The compressed files have just been put into an archive so you don't have to download them all separately, most likely.05:58
hylian_smackmanic i had to use 8.04 till 2 months ago. no support for my ati x1300. i finally went nividia.05:58
picard1421anybody know anyhting about pam face authentication05:58
ZykoticK9ridin, install it then ;)05:58
chilli0DasEi,  sudo smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 777     create Perm dened05:59
smackmanichylian_: right...i just made the jump from 8.04..ALTHOUGH grub is actually listing it as 8.04 still..05:59
jfcaronDerragon: Ok thanks.05:59
Derragons05:59
fbencosmesomebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?05:59
Derragonjfcaron, No problem.05:59
smackmanicwill worry about that when i get there lol05:59
Derragonsmackmanic, Updating Ubuntu only updates the actual files, not the entry listed in the GRUB Bootloader.06:00
fbencosmesomebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?06:00
picard1421how do you messsage someone in IRC06:00
Derragonsmackmanic, Running grub-update should fix that, though.06:00
h2ouphey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers but not windows06:00
KwikkSilvaWhen theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?06:00
ridinZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d4adH2CA06:00
toolbearpicard1421: "/msg <nickname> ..."06:00
hylian_derragon smackmanic is stuck in busybox because it wont boot fully. grub errors.06:00
DasEichilli0: got to restart samba ofter (saved) changes of it's conf.. I'm  off in some time now, smb.conf is self explanatory, and has better and safer ways, too, also see06:01
DasEi!samba06:01
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.06:01
magnesiumIs there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?06:01
ZykoticK9ridin, looks like you have a broken package.  try running "sudo apt-get -f install" and see if it helps.06:01
smackmanicheh06:01
DasEichilli0: I wouldn't recommend SWAT, as it tends to complicate things06:01
chilli0Ohok.06:01
hylian_smackmanic thats why if it's at all significant (more than one release) i do a fresh install. to many bugs in gapped distro updates06:02
smackmanicwell, Derragon, that is usual info I was wondering, thanks06:02
Derragonhylian, What I'm thinking is that GRUB is still trying to load the old kernel, etc. He'd have to update GRUB with all of the information for the current version of Ubuntu, or do a fres reinstall.06:02
smackmanichylian_, my other...ubuntu...updates so nicely06:02
ridinZykoticK9, just sudo apt-get -f install?06:02
MaRk-Ihylian_: hey dont worry, just that we offered help and instead of trying they just rant and cry06:02
smackmanic=(06:02
timonanyone here familiar with the use of awk command.06:02
ZykoticK9ridin, yup "sudo apt-get -f install"06:02
toolbearsay, would someone be able to offer their interpretation of this (chroot problem) http://paste.linuxassist.net/215387 ?06:02
hylian_MaRk-I: understood, thanx.06:03
smackmanicwhat Im thinking is I have 3 different forum posts with the same fix that doesnt require updating grub just yet06:03
chilli0DasEi,  So basicly I have to change the perms of the files to 777?06:03
smackmanichowever grub update is manual in ubuntu, so even so, i would update..reboot..grub needs to be updated but grub won't boot anything...so that actually makes no sense to me06:03
magnesiumno one here uses RAID?06:03
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toolbearmagnesium: no, who'd bother with that?06:04
smackmanicright now I'm just trying to collect what I need for the next dive.... i guesss hd0,4 needds to be hd0,106:04
magnesiumtoolbear:  Well me, I'm setting up a server for my department.06:04
smackmanicnow i just need to figure out how to make absolutely sure im root using grub so that I'll know the error msgs arent bogus06:04
smackmanicall about ruling things out06:04
ridinZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/MTSDm5zL06:04
magnesiumPlanning on installing Ubuntu Server to a 15,000 rpm SCSI drive06:04
hylian_smackmanic this is totally not the right way to fix this, but, can you uninstall via apt-get and reinstall grub?06:04
magnesiumand then setting up a RAID 5 array with 4 250 GB drives06:05
Derragonsmackmanic, You should have some form of GRUB's emergency command-line called grub-rescue. Do you get anything like that?06:05
smackmanichylian_ not without livecd/usb06:05
toolbearmagnesium: ah, thanks. i've always wondered why people used raid06:05
smackmanicunless im mistaken06:05
ZykoticK9ridin, doesn't show any broken packages!  try "sudo apt-get install indicator-sound" again06:05
smackmanicDerragon, you're the first person who's  mentioned that to me06:05
SpeirosI don't seem to be able to initialise a twin pack cd game on my system.  I am using Ubuntu 10.0.4, and don't know how to install once the prompt comes for the second cd.06:06
hylian_smackmanic i think Derragon is onto something06:06
smackmanicim willing to give it a go before i start randomly trying to fix teh boot options again06:06
Derragonsmackmanic, I'm not sure if your GRUB was updated to GRUB2, so, you might or might not have grub-rescue. It's a command line built into GRUB if it fails.06:06
magnesiumtoolbear: Yeah, It's going to be for ftp and lamp, so I'm letting the OS run from the 15000 rpm drive and then people can put all their crap on the RAID array.06:06
ridinZykoticK9: indicator-applet is already the newest version.06:06
smackmanicgrub is updated manually in ubuntu06:06
smackmanicthe updates do not update grub06:06
fangchenga06:07
ZykoticK9ridin, indicator-applet or indicator-sound?06:07
Derragonsmackmanic, Considering that you are unable to boot, I would assume that GRUB still has a way to fix itself. Or, you can reinstall GRUB to the hard drive via the Live USB/CD.06:07
fangchenghello06:07
smackmanicso I don't know what ver exactly I have, but I'm positive it's not 206:07
ridinZykoticK9, the sound icon that comes with indicator applet06:07
hylian_i love how all the grub fixes listed online assume you have a ubuntu cd lying around.06:07
Derragonsmackmanic, The GRUB installer is built onto all Ubuntu distributions (as far as I know), so you should be able to just reinstall GRUB via that CD/USB.06:07
smackmanichylian_: yah like busybox is so helpful too06:07
tripelbthe daily show videos quit working.  chrome audio keeps ditching. what a keen system. the project that never ends.06:07
jeraldhello guys.. can you help me how can I change my screen resolution to 1920×120006:07
ZykoticK9ridin, i thought you said indicator-sound wasn't installed on your system.06:07
magnesiumso no one else here has a RAID array?06:08
dustinwaitt!!06:08
tripelbjrald I've been trying to get help on that for weeks06:08
dustin do do nothin06:08
ZykoticK9ridin, "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" should show an installed version06:08
Speiroshylian: What system do you know of that doesn't require it like so?06:08
ridinZykoticK9, i said the sound-icon wasn't appearing when i added the indicator applet06:08
smackmanicDerragon, so basically the older grub doesnt have the emergency/rescue line06:08
vhyzia06:08
ZykoticK9ridin, "Installed: 0.2.3-0ubuntu1"06:08
dustinrecover line when you reboot?06:08
Derragonsmackmanic, As far as I know, no. However since you are online I assume you are able to make a live CD/USB.06:08
hylian_how do you fix grub without a live cd?06:08
MaRk-I!raid06:09
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:09
jeraldtripelb,  hahaha.. so any luck?06:09
Derragonhylian_, unless you have another version of Ubuntu or something installed on the same computer, as far as I know... you can't.06:09
ridinZykoticK9:   Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.2.3-0ubuntu106:09
Lymhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick is really confusing, im doing the bottom part where you do it all manually and it just says "Next, you open up the ISO file and extract the files in casper directory. The size (and possibly manifest) are needed if you want to install from the USB drive otherwise the install will error out." but doesn't specify where to put the files, what they mean necessarily by extracting,06:09
Lymetc06:09
ZykoticK9ridin, right it's NOT installed on your system - just install it.06:09
ZykoticK9ridin, good luck.06:09
smackmanicDerragon: you'd be wrong but I understand the assumption. I would also assume it for someone else.06:09
chilli0DasEi, How can I samba to give guest access to read , write , list , delete and everything?06:10
magnesiumthx MaRk-I06:10
ridinZykoticK9, it says i have broken packages just like the first pastebin, i mean exactly06:10
smackmanicthe issue is that i have at least 3 posts I've found that list the same fix06:10
jeralddid anyone already know how to change screen reslolution06:10
hylian_Derragon thanks. thats too bad. smackmanic doesnt have a live cd.06:10
MaRk-ILym: why dont you try with unetbootin instead?06:10
aaaahi all06:10
smackmanicI believe I'm just doing it wrong06:10
aaaachown -R myusername folder06:10
aaaait says permsision denied06:10
aaaawhy?06:10
smackmanicso I need to figure grub out basically.....guess we're gonna go with hd0,1 instead of 0,406:10
MaRk-Imagnesium: yw and sorry I dont use raid :P06:10
Derragonsmackmanic, Have you considered putting the hard drive containing the affected installation into another computer and fixing it fmo th06:10
BentFranklinwhat is the apt command to show all packages I have already installed?06:11
smackmanic........06:11
jeraldguys.. I want a 1920×1200 resolution in my netbook06:11
Derragonsmackmanic, Damn this netbook... fixing it from a computer you are able to boot to?06:11
bazhangBentFranklin, dpkg -l06:11
aaaahello?06:11
LymMaRk-I, i dont know what that is and the connection im on is PAINFULLY slow06:11
smackmanicDerragon: if i had another machine around here....06:11
magnesiumMaRk-I:  Yeah most people don't :P I've gotten used to emptyness when asking about it06:11
smackmanicI'd hook up the ethernet cable06:11
dustinsmackmanic, do you have flash drivers?06:11
smackmanicand download the liveusb.06:11
smackmanicheh06:11
MaRk-ILym: but you already have the .iso dont you?06:11
ZykoticK9ridin, can you install libido-0.1-006:11
giovWhat do I need to install into a basic KUbuntu system to make & make install a wifi driver, regarding Kernel source? - anyone have a url with info on that? thanks06:11
smackmanicso no live, no testy on other machine06:12
Derragonsmackmanic, I am confused... how are you online?06:12
hylian_smackmanic, i think you have grub, not grub 2. you should boot into grub rescue, not busybox...06:12
LymMaRk-I, yes06:12
smackmanicjust grub boot editing06:12
MaRk-I!unetbootin | Lym06:12
ubottuLym: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent06:12
dustin usb flash drives?06:12
smackmanicwindows, i have a partition on this machine06:12
SpeirosIs there a chat page that is more specific to my needs?06:12
ridinZykoticK9: libido-0.1-0 is already the newest version. libido-0.1-0 set to manually installed.06:12
Mr_Sonomagiov: you building from source code? if so sudo apt-get install buildessential06:12
antonio_hey all06:12
bazhanggiov, unlikely you will need to compile it; at worst you would need to install the linux-backports-modules06:12
smackmanicDerragon: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html 2nd to last post is the fix06:12
Derragonsmackmanic, Install Linux on your machine via Wubi installer, then use that linux install (which is virtual) to fix GRUB on that machine./06:13
magnesiumhey antonio_06:13
KwikkSilvaWhen theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?06:13
MaRk-ILym: you're on windows at the moment?06:13
Mr_Sonoma!hi | antonio_06:13
ubottuantonio_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!06:13
smackmanicI'm jsut trying to figure out what boot option I'm messing up...and also if grub is actually in root06:13
giovMr_Sonoma: Iḿ following the instructins here:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=244215 , and06:13
cozone1952hi could someone tell me how to put in the password in SU comand when ido i get permission denied  help please06:13
LymMaRk-I, no im using 9.1006:13
antonio_I'm trying to make a backup of some folders on my lappy...to an ext hd.  Some files copied over, but a majority of them didn't.  I think it has something to do with the permissions on the drive.  I've tried a sudo naut to change the permissions of the drive...but its a no go06:13
hylian_smackmanic can you get into windows? this is quite backwards, but with the ubuntu image and virtualbox, you can actually repair some things. ive done it before06:13
smackmanicDerragon: I don't have the space on here otherwise I'd get the liveusb on here.06:13
bazhanggiov, thats for fedora06:13
giovand here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145564906:13
ZykoticK9ridin, sorry man - i'm not sure what's up with your system, but it looks like it has something to do with that libido...  whatever that is.  sorry man, i have no idea - hope someone else has something for ya ;)  good luck man.06:13
ridinZykoticK9, i did xfce4-volumed which i have but nothing seemed to happen06:13
smackmanicI think there is a misunderstanding06:13
smackmanicI have a usb stick that could be used. I -dont- have the space.06:14
Mr_Sonomacozone1952: use sudo, there is no root06:14
ridinZykoticK9, i know there's a command to hide/show the icon, but i can't seem to remember it06:14
smackmanicand literally cannot uninstall enough to clear out06:14
MaRk-ILym: just d/l the linux version  make it executable http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/06:14
Mr_Sonoma!sudo | cozone195206:14
ubottucozone1952: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo06:14
Derragonsmackmanic, Man... I really don't see how you got yourself into that situation lol. But now I realize that, since GRUB is just pointing itself to the wrong partition/HDD. xD\06:14
ridinZykoticK9, but thanks anyways :p06:14
cozone1952ok thanks06:14
ridinhmm, brb06:14
antonio_anyone have any idea how I can change the permissions on this ext drive?06:14
smackmanicDerragon: yah... so it's a guessing game... do you know how I go root with grub?06:14
MaRk-ILym: actually they have a .deb just download it06:14
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hylian_why is menu.lst blank? i wanted to edit my grub, but it's blank?06:15
tiksudo chmod -R user:user *06:15
smackmanici have a window open reading about grub and its prolly there but i have all this scrollback to read too06:15
bazhanghylian_, what version of ubuntu06:15
Derragonsmackmanic, GRUB isn't attached to Ubuntu, so you don't need to be root. All you do is have to do is set the root.06:15
hylian_bazhang 10,0406:15
bazhanghylian_, its not there. check the grub2 wiki06:15
Derragonsmackmanic, Which is, as far as I know, either your second or third partition. /dev/sda2 (or 3)06:15
bazhang!grub2 | hylian_06:15
ubottuhylian_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:15
smackmanicDerragon: okay. well, basically i read that if its not, then the error msgs I get can be bogus06:16
ZykoticK9antonio_, i'm not sure if this is going to help you or not BUT: you don't change permissions on drives, you change them on filesystem/mount points.06:16
smackmanicso I don't know which ones are bogus yet06:16
hylian_bazhang, thanks, i guess thinkgs change faster than im usual on this os, will do ;)06:16
dustinsmackmanic,do you have a copy of the iso? and which one is it 32 bit or 64 bit?06:16
smackmanicwhich makes the guessing game useless06:16
antonio_zykotick9: can you tell me how to do that?06:16
smackmanicdustin, no iso talks, please. heh06:16
cozone1952thanks Mr_sonoma06:16
smackmaniclemme read the scrollback06:16
smackmanicmy head is spinning06:16
Derragonsmackmanic, Well, you can try setting whatever has 'root=' in it to 'root=/dev/sda2 or 3. At this point, it's a guessing game.06:16
aaaaDerragon:06:16
aaaahwo do i change chown?06:17
ZykoticK9antonio_, where is it mounted?  type "mount" in a terminal if you aren't sure.  and are you sure it's EXT and not VFAT/NTFS?06:17
aaaai can't do that06:17
aaaapermission denied06:17
tikdid you sudo first?06:17
minhthonghow to install open office?06:17
Derragonaaaa, He's not in Ubuntu. He's trying to boot into Ubuntu, which means he doesn't need to have permission.06:17
hylian_aaaa, change chown? do you mean how do i use chown to change permissions?06:17
antonio_it might not be ext zykotick9:06:17
bazhangmint, which version of ubuntu06:17
minhthongI have download openoffice already. But i don't know how tu install it06:17
tiksudo chown -R user:user *06:18
Derragonminhthing, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org\06:18
bazhangerr sorry mint minhthong which version of ubuntu06:18
aaaadrwxrwsr-x  18 areshkin gekcogrp     879 Jun 19 19:11 pubs_src06:18
ZykoticK9antonio_, "mount" would show you.  if it's not ext i can't help...06:18
tikwhere user:user is your login06:18
aaaahey hylian_  Derragon06:18
Derragonminhthing, Without the slash of course.06:18
minhthongthanks06:18
MaRk-Iminhthong: go to software center, search openoffice, click install06:18
aaaathere are three set of "xxx"xxx"xxx06:18
smackmanicDerragon: okay..so..ubuntu was installed second...so we're gonna go with hd0,1 I believe?06:18
aaaawhat does the last one mean?06:18
antonio_zykotick9: if it wasn't ext would I have been able to add stuff to the drive at all?06:18
tikeveryone can read write and excute06:18
Derragonsmackmanic, /dev/sda1. Ubuntu doesn't work like Windows in that sense.06:18
smackmanicnow...with that being ..uhh my head hurts. could someone find me an example of the boot?06:19
ZykoticK9antonio_, yes...06:19
Mr_Sonomaminhthong: sudo apt-get install openoffice06:19
smackmanicDerragon, okay, so I WOULD erase HD06:19
antonio_zykotick9: its a vfat06:19
hylian_smackmanic not neccessarily, i have 2 hard drives, with multiple partitions, non of which are hd0. all of which are sda, sdb.06:19
Firstgearanybody know how to align left the title bar text on window frames??06:19
Firstgearin Gnome06:19
cozone1952thanks everyone06:19
Derragonsmackmanic, Well, no. Changing the root thing is just changing where GRUB will look to grab the boot information.06:19
tikhylian_: that is because they are SCSI and not IDE no?06:19
dustinis there a lunix that will recover my data, if i cant boot up?06:19
ZykoticK9antonio_, sorry i can't help with that.  good luck.06:19
smackmanicnow im a bit more confused06:19
smackmanicsorry guys I haven't slept in a little over 48 hrs06:19
smackmanicrunning low on brain energy06:20
hylian_tik actually one is sata and one is ata.06:20
antonio_zykotick9: just you...or is this something that can't be done?06:20
johnconfey........06:20
tikdustin: any livecd.. i recommend DSL06:20
aaaaDerragon:06:20
hasek79how do you get the dvd player to work so i can paly dvd movies?06:20
chilli0Can some one please help me before I kill my self. This stupid samba has retarded perms. I have set mask to 777 but still I can frking open the files./06:20
smackmanicI do know for sure that it was SD something before it got effed06:20
tikthats what i ment sata not SCSI06:20
Derragonsmackmanic, As far as I know, when you updated Ubuntu, the GRUB got a little bugged and is looking to the wrong place to boot up from. Changing root= will make GRUB boot from where you tell it to. Kinda' like with the Windows XP bootloader's thing.06:20
bazhang!dvd > hasek7906:20
ubottuhasek79, please see my private message06:20
smackmanicso sd2 would be most likely for a second partition?06:20
Mr_Sonomahasek79: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss206:20
dustintik thanks going to check it out06:20
bazhangMr_Sonoma, he needs medibuntu for that06:21
Derragonsmackmanic, /dev/sda2 or something should be it, yes. I'm positive it's /dev/sd something.06:21
hylian_tik, actually, for some strange reason ubuntu refers to them as scsi in several places, although non of them are, i dont try and figure out ubuntu any more, i just go with the flow06:21
ZykoticK9antonio_, VFAT is microsoft - i don't help with MS compatibility issues (i don't use any MS myself).  VFAT cannot use any linux permissions at all, and the permissions on the drive are determined by the mount command used.  Best of luck.06:21
Mr_Sonomabazhang: DOH! forgot that06:21
antonio_hmm....06:21
bazhangthe !dvd has it though06:21
antonio_this stinks06:21
tikhahahah06:21
smackmanicDerragon: I strongly believe it's 2 or 5, and im leaning towards to but for whatever reason it lists hd0,4 right now. not sure if that was me or a bug or it's correct06:22
antonio_does anyone have any idea how to change permissions on a vfat formatted drive with ubuntu?06:22
hylian_anyone have any idea on why android on virtualbox would make ubuntu (the host) hang?06:22
smackmanicand someone said hd 4 would be sd 406:22
smackmanic*506:22
sweetpichilli0: you want a samba share that allows anyone to add/remove files?06:22
smackmanicbut i believe it's 2. 2 sounds more fam (I dont use this machine a lot)06:22
bazhangantonio_, vfat has no permissions06:22
smackmanicokay...so....i would edit the hd line? sorry I think I asked this a sec ago....06:22
chilli0sweetpi, That's what I did say.06:22
Derragonsmackmanic, Well, since you're still in Windows, it's going to show it how Windows shows it. Unless you have already pressed e to get into where you need to be, it's not going to show you how GRUB shows it.06:23
smackmanicotherwise it looks like i'd have two root lines. but I'm not sure06:23
antonio_bazhang: so am I kind of screwed then?06:23
bazhangantonio_, care to recap? I missed the earlier bit06:23
smackmanicDerragon: i've been regularly restarting it and going into edit06:23
sweetpichilli0: just making sure, i havent been paying attention06:23
antonio_well06:23
chilli0sweetpi, Ok , so you know how?06:23
chilli0I have set the mask to 777.06:23
sweetpichilli0: yes06:23
minhthonghow can i have the help of Ubuntu Vietnam?06:23
smackmanicDerragon: suspisious that it's returning bogus errors because it's set root06:23
chilli0=D06:23
smackmanicso.......okay, gottta try to condense this now06:24
antonio_I'm trying to make a backup of certain folders (home etc and usr) because this lappy is totally wrecked (screen cracked)...06:24
bazhangminhthong, /join #ubuntu-vn06:24
MaRk-I!vn | minhthong06:24
ubottuminhthong: Để được trợ giúp về Ubuntu bằng ngôn ngữ Việt, xin vui lòng /join #ubuntu-vn. Rất vui lòng được giúp đỡ06:24
antonio_I used luckbackup to try to backup the stuff...was getting errors..some of them about chown...etc06:24
sweetpichilli0: pastebin your smb.conf, and the permissions that are on the directory you want to share06:24
Derragonsmackmanic, Well... I'd help, but I do need to get going right now. Sorry.06:24
aaaahello??06:24
aaaaanyone here?06:24
smackmanichaha..perfect timing06:24
chilli0How can I show the perms from cli?06:24
smackmanicDerragon: appreciate the piece about the numbers not being updated tho06:24
smackmanicwas worried06:24
hasek79aslo how do i make myself the owner or the system06:25
hylian_smackmanic "SCSI or SATA or USB drives will be designated "sda", "sdb", "sdc" and so on." although my eide (ata) is listed as sdb1.06:25
Derragonsmackmanic, No kidding... I'm working on my netbook right now with its install, adding some things and such.06:25
ZykoticK9chilli0, "ls -l" that's an L ;)06:25
hasek79i am the admin but im not the owner06:25
sweetpichilli0: ls -ald pathtodirectory06:25
smackmanichylian_ positive it's sda....and almost as positive it's 206:25
ridinZykoticK9, i got the sound icon to appear!06:25
chilli0sweetpi, smb config http://pastebin.com/He2e8MGS06:25
ZykoticK9ridin, what was it?06:26
Derragonsmackmanic, But, best of luck to you. Hope you get it working.06:26
smackmanicso..anyway...how do I set the root again? I'm assuming I go into the grub commandline06:26
smackmanicDerragon: I will. one way or another. rm -rf peace bro06:26
ridinalt + f2 gnome-volume-control-applet06:26
Derragonsmackmanic, Entering the edit part of GRUB via pressing 'e' during boot. Should be able to edit it from there.06:26
ZykoticK9ridin, that's the old version... just sayin'06:26
smackmanicwhat was the command again?06:26
antonio_bazhang: any idea how I can actually backup everything I need...my backup drive is a vfat06:26
smackmanicsorry I know you already answered..so did hylian_06:26
ridinZykoticK9: :(06:26
smackmanicinfo overload06:26
chilli0sweetpi,  drwxrwxrwx 1 media root 81920 2010-07-28 23:20  , /media/media/Movies drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-07-31 03:38 /home/media/Music06:27
smackmanicsetting the root is going to be the most important part heh06:27
Derragonsmackmanic, Well, you should be getting something that shows you all of the entries or something... I don't know, I never got into it until I was already using GRUB2. Sorry.\06:27
dustincan anyone tell me whats wrong with smackmanic, computer?06:27
chilli0Music shares works fine, the other one doesnt.06:27
ridinZykoticK9, it's default on start-up, so...06:27
aaaahey dude06:27
skumarai need to know whats the different with ubuntu 32bit and 64bit. I got AMD turion 64x2 in my laptop. Why in the ubuntu download page 64bit in not recommended for daily desktop usage?06:27
redvilhas anyone here tried recording a video using a webcam in linux?06:27
smackmanicDerragon: already, well, thats what google is for06:27
smackmanicdustin: we'll get it figured out, im certain its a guessing game after I set the root =)06:27
LymMaRk-I, is it supposed to get stuck at 5% for a while?06:28
antonio_skumara: someone mentioned to me something along the lines of flash not working too well on 64 bit...06:28
bazhangantonio_, flash stick or actual usb hdd06:28
Derragonskumara, Most of the people don't have over 4GB of RAM, which is the maximum about 32-bit systems support. if your laptop has over 4GB of RAM, use 64-bit because it supports it. Bye.06:28
antonio_500 gig usb hdd06:28
bazhangredvil, tried camorama?06:28
bazhangantonio_, why vfat for that and not ntfs?06:28
redvilbazhang: thnx..i will look into it06:28
skumaraderragon i have just 4GB RAM06:28
ZykoticK9skumara, personally i think the "not recommended" on the web site is a bug - and look it's already filed as one ;)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/58594006:28
hylian_smackmanic this should get you to be root, (you just arent chaging the root password): http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub06:28
antonio_I think it came formatted like that..never changed it06:29
MaRk-ILym: depends on the USB but yes looks like it gets stuck for a bit06:29
aaaahey MaRk-I06:29
aaaayou here?06:29
aaaai can't do chmod06:29
aaaawhy06:29
redvilbazhang: it says it only captures still images?06:29
aaaatell me dude06:29
bazhangantonio_, well vfat has file size limitations of 4GB iirc06:29
FloodBot1aaaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:29
sweetpichilli0: and what are the permissions on a file you cant open?06:29
aaaabazhang:06:29
antonio_ah that I can only xfer 4gbs at a time?06:29
smackmanichylian_: thanks hylian_, swear my brain is getting sketchy06:30
hylian_aaaa you might have to sudo chmod.06:30
aaaasweetpi: i can't  "chmod"06:30
aaaawhy hylian_06:30
chilli0sweetpi,  The whole thing is retarded. On music I can't add files but I can remove.06:30
SwedeMike!details | aaaa06:30
ubottuaaaa: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:30
hasek79ive tried to add a new folder to my desktop pictures folder and it says i cant b/c im not the owner. how do i make myself the owner???06:30
smackmanici have to actually type this url out..or this java bs will crash lol06:30
redvilanyone here knows a app for making videos with webcam?06:30
bazhangredvil, perhaps I misread your question; did you wish to record your desktop or capture video through your webcam06:30
antonio_redvil: try cheese06:30
ZykoticK9aaaa, what filesystem are you using?  you can't chmod on any windows NTFS/FAT filesystems.06:30
aaaachmod: WARNING: can't change pubs_src06:31
aaaai'm on linux06:31
aaaai can't chmod ZykoticK906:31
antonio_redvil: go and download cheese..works great06:31
redvilbazhang: i wanted to record video using my webcam.06:31
aaaapubs_src is a folder06:31
tiktry  sud first06:31
tiksudo06:31
antonio_devil: go and download cheese06:31
bazhang!enter | aaaa06:31
ubottuaaaa: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:31
redvilantonio_: thnx..i will try that one06:31
aaaaok bazhang06:31
aaaaZykoticK9: any clue?06:31
antonio_bazhang: you were saying...theres a 4gig limit..is that being only able to xfer 4 gigs at a time..06:32
hylian_aaaa what they mean is are you chmod'ing on a ntfs, a ext4, etc. are you on ubuntu's drive or are you trying to do this on windows drive?06:32
tikdud you try sudo chmod a+r dir ?06:32
aaaaSorry, user "username" is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/chmod 777 pubs_src' as root on shay.ecn.purdue.edu.06:32
shell-fuhow do i figure out the host name?06:32
antonio_or a max size on a vfag drive of 4gigs?06:32
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aaaai'm on linux06:32
aaaahylian_:06:32
tikyou can chmod on ntfs...06:32
bazhangantonio_, I was unclear, 4GB file size not transfer06:32
aaaatik what you mean?06:32
antonio_frick...06:32
hasek79im guessing no one knows then????06:32
aaaai don't own the folder06:32
redvilantonio_: have u tried CHEESE? does it save video in .avi format?06:33
antonio_bazhang: so each file can be no bigger than 4gb right?06:33
aaaasomeone has the ownership of that folder06:33
sweetpichilli0: so your only problem is you cant add files?06:33
bazhangantonio_, yep06:33
jc1Which is better ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04??06:33
hylian_aaaa what they are asking is not what os you are on, but what format the hard drive is where you have your files saved. is it a windows drive? did you format it when you installed ubuntu?06:33
tiksudo chmod a+r dir06:33
bazhangjc1, get the more recent version06:33
aaaahey hylian_06:33
bareegohasek79, chown06:33
aaaai am newbie to linux06:33
shell-fuhow do i figure out the host name for a network configuration menu??06:33
aaaahow do i check?06:33
tikfor all read access06:33
MaRk-Iaaaa: you cant chmod files/folders on a server that isnt yours06:33
chilli0sweetpi, No. I can't play the movies. Music just cant add new files.06:33
aaaait's a server06:33
antonio_bazhang: do you know of any kind of backup program that will backup everything..and when it comes to a file that is larger than 4 gigs, it will split it up...then rejoin it later?06:33
hasek79i cant add a folder so i can d/l pics to put in it06:34
smackmanicjc1: if you're updating have a livecd on hand!!! =p06:34
bazhangaaaa, please stop with the enter key06:34
aaaahey MaRk-I06:34
sweetpichilli0: what are the permissions on movie file you cant play?06:34
aaaaonly the one who creates the folder can set the permission?06:34
tikno06:34
chilli0sweetpi,  Ill see.06:34
tikroot can set it too06:34
aaaai don't have root06:34
tiko06:34
aaaaexcept root,who can set it?06:34
MaRk-Iaaaa: that's not ubuntu specific problem, ask your university for permissions (which I doubt they do?)06:34
antonio_redvil: not sure what format it saves in..check it out....then see if you can export it to a format you can use..or a format that you can change/convert06:34
tikthe owner06:35
aaaahey MaRk-I06:35
bazhangantonio_, not sure of your situation; the drive in question can be reformatted?06:35
chilli0sweetpi,  There is about 300-400 movies. -rw------- 1 root root 1520173056 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignmnet.avi06:35
redvilantonio_: ok..thanks again06:35
nullQuestion:  Are there any known issues with the icons in the notifybar/taskbar becoming invisible?  I'm experiencing it regularly on 2 different machines.06:35
hylian_aaaa sudo makes you root, unless this server isnt yours. in which case if it is yours, your password would do it.06:35
ZykoticK9chilli0, only root can read that assignment.avi file!06:35
bazhanghasek79, you should be the owner06:35
sweetpichilli0: chmod -R a+r /media/media/Movies06:35
antonio_bazhang: maybe..got to xfer a ton of things to the new lappy..06:35
jc1bazhang I used to have the 9.04 but I think the karmic was worse than 9.04 (because I can't change the GDM on karmic and another troubles that I had...)06:35
antonio_guess I'll try that :(06:35
hasek79but im not06:35
chilli0sweetpi, chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/assigmnet.avi': Operation not permitted06:36
bazhanghasek79, this is not your computer then?06:36
sweetpichilli0: ah.. ntfs?06:36
hasek79but it is06:36
ZykoticK9chilli0, use sudo06:36
chilli0Yeah.06:36
antonio_bazhang: if I copy everything over to my new lappy...then format the drive...I can put all of the files on there without any kind of problem, right?06:36
hasek79there is only 1 user on it and its me06:36
sweetpichilli0: paste your fstab entry06:36
bazhanghasek79, are your permissions somehow messed up?06:36
jibisBonjour tout le monde06:36
MaRk-Ichilli0: if I'm not mistaken you have to add users to the samba conf... http://www.bunkerhollow.com/blogs/matt/archive/2010/07/17/ubuntu-10-04-samba-file-share-configuration.aspx06:36
hasek79idk and idk how to fix them06:36
ZykoticK9!fr | jibis06:37
ubottujibis: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.06:37
bazhangjibis, english here please; french in #ubuntu-fr06:37
jc1bazhang and potuguese??06:37
hylian_i know this is dangerous, but i wuld love a linux distro where the end user has permissions to everything automatically. but the it would be called lindows, right?06:37
chilli0sweetpi,  /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 006:37
jibisthank you06:37
bazhangjc1, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br06:37
ZykoticK9chilli0, you can't apply linux permission to ntfs file systems06:38
jc1bazhang are you using ubuntu 10.04??06:38
sweetpichilli0: close anything accessing /media/media and unmount it06:38
bazhangjc1, yep06:38
chilli0ZykoticK9, Even If it's mounted the way I have done it?06:38
ZykoticK9chilli0, if it's ntfs it won't work!06:38
ZykoticK9chilli0, not with chmod06:38
jc1bazhang is it easy to change the box login??06:38
sweetpichilli0: change fstab to say "user,auto,umask=022"06:38
hylian_chilli0 have you installed ntfs-config?06:39
sweetpichilli0: then mount again06:39
bazhangjc1, the gdm2 greeter? not really, but not an issue as that is on for just a couple of seconds06:39
chilli0sweetpi, Anyway to force unmount it?06:40
sweetpichilli0: yes, but dont. maybe stop samba?06:41
jc1bazhang I'm installing 9.04 on my pc...06:41
smackmanicey hylian...this seems backwards...wants me to set all the boot info correctly before i set the root...?06:41
smackmanichylian_: nevermind, missed one sentence06:41
chilli0Still busy sweetpi06:41
smackmanicdamn, so basically go to recovery mode..06:42
hylian_smackmanic um, what exactly do you mean? i cant see your current set up, so i wuld suggest currently doing what your gut says to do.06:42
sweetpichilli0: lsof | grep /media/media06:42
hylian_i would love a "my kernel is tainted" t-shirt.06:42
smackmanichylian_nah I missed a sentence disregard the statement about it being backwards. or question rather06:42
smackmanicyes, yes06:42
jc1bazhang I have the 10.04 but even the live session I tried...but I'll try later06:42
chilli0sweetpi,  I got 4 entry's , Bash , lsof grep and lsof.06:42
* smackmanic breathes06:43
smackmanicso recov mode...then guessing game06:43
hylian_smackmanic how do you emote in irc? i just type06:43
sweetpichilli0: ok, you have a shell in the directory. cd /06:43
smackmanictype /me06:43
chilli0sweetpi, Done =P06:43
smackmanicfollowed by the txt06:43
bazhangjc1, issue with live cd you could try the alternate cd06:44
chilli0okay remounted. sweetpi06:44
sweetpichilli0: ok check permission on file again06:44
* hylian_ is crossing his fingers for smackmanic06:44
smackmanichylian_ my concern now here is....the fix says to edit the root= entry....my root= entry is the one with hd0,4 right now...am i actually erasing the hd part out and replacing it with /dev/sda2 (or whatever mine might be) ?06:44
chilli0-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1520173056 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignment.avi06:44
sweetpichilli0: ok now you should be able to play the movie06:45
smackmanicor do I have two root=lines....i didnt quite grasp it earlier when D explained06:45
chilli0I shall see.06:45
chilli0Gotta restart samba.06:45
hylian_smackmanic yes. i think for two reasons, one, 8.04 is grub, 10.04 is grub2. and secondly, ubuntu probably didnt label it hdo,4. as a matter of fact i know it didnt. if anything, ubuntu would have named hd0,4 to hd5.06:46
jc1bazhang I use to save the image on DVD and when I need to install I create a pendrive boot...06:46
chilli0sweetpi, Thanks so much. Now should I be able to add new files there also?06:46
smackmanicim gonna give it a go06:46
hylian_smackmanic, or sda5, 1 etc, if this is a sata drive06:46
mifadirhi06:46
smackmanichylian_, I recall it being sda something...but06:47
mifadirif ubuntu's configured like router must i use direct cable or corossover06:47
mifadir?06:47
mifadir?06:47
FloodBot1mifadir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:47
smackmanicwindows could tell me yah? under sys info maybe06:47
smackmanici wanna be sure06:47
smackmanicill check sys info out now...06:47
hylian_smackmanic that sounds right. my drives are sda1 and sdb2 respectively, b being my slave06:47
mifadirany one know answer?06:47
bareegochilli0, don't think so06:47
chilli0sweetpi, That's almost all perfect. If I add a new folder with a file it in. It doesn't work. It sets the permitions to owner nobody.06:48
hylian_mifadir how are you configuring ubuntu as a router? did you mean a firewall?06:48
jc1mifadir...no06:48
mifadirforwarding06:48
sweetpichilli0: one sec i forget the umask06:48
mifadirrouter does not mear firewall?06:49
jc1mifadir depends...at first do you have any other pc running with another OS?06:50
hylian_mifadir router's and firewall's are not the same thing. a router dishes out net to other machines, a firewall blocks dangerous ports. most routers have a built in software firewall.06:50
sweetpichilli0: oh, i think its 000 for world write06:50
chilli0sweetpi, So get rid of umask=025 or what ever it is?06:50
smackmanicthis is useful info if you can convert it for me06:50
sweetpichilli0: i forgot umask takes away permissions06:50
mifadiri know that hylian06:51
sweetpichilli0: just change to umask=00006:51
smackmanicin sys info, my linux partition is disk 0 partion 106:51
smackmanic*partition06:51
hylian_smackmainc sda1 sounds right. sda is a sata drive, 1st partition. sdb1 is the slave, first partition.06:51
jeraldI'm still looking for 1920×1200 resolution06:51
jeraldstill no luck..06:51
sweetpichilli0: make sure to remount06:52
smackmanichylian_: appreciate it, hopefully i wont have anymore more questions about this tonite..we'll see in a few06:52
smackmanicbrb06:52
hylian_crossing the fingers for ya man06:52
chilli0sweetpi, Restarting now ( the whole server )06:52
smackmanic;)06:52
hylian_mifadir ohh, sorry. maybe i dont undertsand the question...?06:53
sweetpichilli0: you only needed to umount/mount06:53
jeraldHow can I see what's my mac address of my laptop?06:53
SwedeMikejerald: ifconfig shows that.06:53
robbiethe1stQuestion: I have a 640GB drive, one of three in my machine. I have three partitions on each of them. Recently, the second drive, /dev/sdb stopped showing partitions. I see /dev/sda1-3, but not /dev/sdb1-306:54
robbiethe1st/dev/sdb exists, and I can see the partitions with fdisk -l or gparted, but...06:54
jc1mifadir you use to have a crossover connection between two pc's??06:54
jeraldSwedeMike, I did try it shows command 'tpconfig'06:54
SwedeMikejerald: no, "ifconfig".06:54
theDomcan someone help me fix the problem where eclipse crashes on startup on 10.04?06:55
bareegomifadir, for port forwarding you need to enable port forwarding and enable masquerading... you can do it easy if you want with a package called guidedog06:55
jeraldSwedeMike, got it.. thanks..06:55
TheSargeI have to use Jockey-gtk to uninstall and reinstall my wireless driver just to activate it everytime I reboot, is there any easier way to activate the driver at boot time?06:55
TheSargemodprobe or something?06:55
sweetpiTheSarge: echo "drivername" >> /etc/modules06:56
jeraldit shows many number i got inet addr, mask, inet6 and fe96 so which is which?06:56
hylian_TheSarge could this be because your wireless connection is unencrypted and therefore not trusted? (not a wireless user so i am shooting from the hip on this one)06:56
TheSargesweetpi: How can I tell what the drivername is?06:57
chilli0sweetpi, Yeah I know , But I prefer to restart because then I can make sure it still all works.06:57
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jeraldSwedeMike, I got too many numbers.. so which is which here is my mac address?06:57
sweetpiTheSarge: lshw -C network06:57
bareegojerald, the one after HWaddr06:58
hylian_sweetpi lshw isnt automatically installed with ubuntu...06:58
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cjaeisnt google earth under partners repo?06:58
jeraldbareego, thanks got ti.. link encap:ethernet HW 00:.... this is my mac address right?06:59
hylian_cjae i had to use this site to get it: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html06:59
bareegojerald, the bit after HW yeah06:59
TheSargesweetpi: What it says under product? Thats the driver name?06:59
sweetpihylian_: it is.. depended by ubuntu-standard06:59
jeraldbareego, thanks..06:59
sweetpiTheSarge: you should see driver:07:00
sweetpiTheSarge: easier way: lsmod | grep mac8021107:00
hylian_cjae did you see my post?07:00
sweetpiTheSarge: paste the output07:00
chilli0sweetpi, And not every thing works =S07:01
sweetpichilli0: whats not working?07:01
TheSargesweetpi: No output..07:01
SwedeMikejerald: it's on the first line.07:01
sweetpiTheSarge: then your wireless isnt up07:01
TheSargesweetpi: and there is no driver: in the other output07:01
cjaebrb07:02
TheSargesweetpi: I am using wireless to talk to you right now lmao07:02
chilli0sweetpi, hehe my bad. I knocked out the usb to the external.07:02
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sweetpiTheSarge: you did "lsmod | grep mac80211"?07:02
chilli0sweetpi, Thanks so much. I gotta go now =P07:02
TheSargeWant an SS with the wireless icon in the corner and my terminal showing no output for that command lol?07:02
TheSargesweetpi: yes lol07:02
sweetpiTheSarge: .. doesnt make sense. try "lshw -C network | grep driver"07:03
minhthonghow do i install file .deb to?07:04
jeraldSwedeMike,  i got two of them eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:7b:15:d6   and eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:73:96:3c:fa07:04
SwedeMikejerald: yes, they are both your mac addresses on each network port.07:05
smackmanichaha hylian ran!07:05
TheSargesweetpi: there is no driver line in either device.. I am uploading the SS 1 sec07:06
sweetpiTheSarge: lspci | grep net07:06
TheSargehttp://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21cdwr8&s=307:06
zewbawwww skeet skeet motherfucker07:06
minhthongevery one please help me to install stardic?07:06
zewbawww skeet skeet god damn07:07
sweetpi!language | zewb07:07
ubottuzewb: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.07:07
somethingintereshi all, I have configured NVIDIA X Server Settings in Ubuntu such that I can use my tv as a second monitor (TwinView) but despite having my PC monitor set as primary and TV as secondary certain programs and dialog boxes appear on the TV instead of the PC monitor. Any advice?07:07
sweetpiTheSarge: i see 2 drivers listed there07:07
asdfasdfasdfhello i have an encrypted file and its corresponing key, when i double click it seahorse opens, asks me for the passphrase and then decrypts the file but if i double click the file again it decrypts it again! without asking me the passphrase so anyone using this pc could decrypt my files without knowing the passphrase, how can i prevent seahorse to remember my password?07:07
TheSargesweetpi: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)07:07
TheSargewhere?07:07
sweetpiTheSarge: wl1 and r816907:08
jeraldSwedeMike, thanks.07:08
bareegohe got pci and wireless07:08
sweetpiTheSarge: wl1 is what your looking for07:09
TheSargeWhere are you seeing this?07:09
TheSargew|1 is the name of a driver?07:09
sweetpiTheSarge: in your screenshot07:09
TheSargeWhere?07:09
sweetpilol07:09
sweetpithe output of lshw -C network07:10
TheSargeIt doesnt say the word driver I greped it twice07:10
sweetpiit does07:10
blinkhi. sound not working for me! what to do?07:11
TheSargeanyways waht was that echo command?07:11
sweetpiTheSarge: echo "wl1" >> /etc/modules07:11
mayankhey07:12
sweetpiTheSarge: hang on a sec though. never heard of a driver like that07:12
TheSargelmao ya07:12
TheSargeI had to do some weird ass shit to get this driver working07:12
mayank@sweetpi  ; can u help me wid a prob07:12
TheSargeI already ran the commsnf07:12
Suit_Of_Sablesoh woe is me! I need help making taking my OSX install DVD .dmg file and putting it onto my iPod so that I can boot from it. I'm dual booting on my macbook and borked the OSX partition which had rEFIt that I used to boot into linux! I am currently running off a live CD.07:12
sweetpiTheSarge: well see if it works then07:12
mayank@sarge : <TheSarg07:12
Suit_Of_SablesI have done this before in OSX but I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu's disc utility07:13
TheSargejust reboot?07:13
asdfasdfasdfhmm i discovered something it says im currently not running any agent to remember passphrases in PGP but clearly they are being remembered. what can i do?07:13
sweetpi!ask | mayank07:13
ubottumayank: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:13
mayank@sarge : need a help in a problem07:13
quakemackHello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?07:13
castasdfasdfasdf: is gpg-agent running?07:13
TheSargesweetpi: Just restart?07:13
DavidJHeinrichhi all, how do I change what folder is my Desktop Folder in Ubuntu? For some reason, it changed it so my Home folder is my Desktop folder07:13
sweetpiTheSarge: yes07:13
mayank@sweetpi :  i m new user of linux (ubuntu) and i installed software update , on my beta version07:13
smackmanicin the grub commandline..i type kernal name-ver-info-etc then it should attempt to load it right07:13
mayankbut now i wanna reverse it but i see it on my boot screen07:13
smackmanic*kernel07:14
mayankn in updated version07:14
mayankshutdown doesnt worjk07:14
asdfasdfasdfcast, yes its in my processes list.07:14
mayanknor from terminal07:14
quakemackHello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?07:14
sweetpimayank: you mean you updated your kernel and you cant shutdown?07:14
mayankso how do i uninstal it07:14
mayankya07:14
mayankit hangs up07:15
mayank n power reamains on07:15
smackmanicactually, im basically just asking if kernel load then boot in grub, im running out of options07:15
thune3!ask | quakemack07:15
ubottuquakemack: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:15
sweetpimayank: how are you trying to shutdown?07:15
mayankboth gui as well terminal07:15
pawanhi07:15
mayankboth dont work07:15
quakemackthank you07:15
pawanhow to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.0407:15
icerootpawan: 9.04 - 9.10 - 10.0407:16
sweetpimayank: well you could go into grub and select an older kernel07:16
iceroot!upgrade | pawan07:16
ubottupawan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade07:16
sweetpimayank: what computer?07:16
mayankhw do i go about dat07:16
pawanno directly from 9.04 to 10.0407:16
quakemack!ask after i format my usb drive, and put ubuntu  on there for install, what do i do after that? do i reboot and boot from my usb drive?07:16
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:16
mayankp407:16
icerootpawan: not supported07:16
drew3Quick Question: Gnome-Panel is acting weird       Gvim-xxxxx-session.vim  <---should there be 7 different files in ~/gnome/panel2.d  ?07:16
pawanthen07:16
sweetpimayank: restart the computer and press esc while booting07:16
bareegoquakemack, yeah, you might have to change the boot order in your bios07:17
quakemackthank you!07:17
mayanki ws hopin of permanent solution07:17
bareegoquakemack, or press some button to bring up a boot meny07:17
bareegomenyu07:17
Suit_Of_Sablesdoes anyone know how to make an iPod into a bootable install disc from a .dmg file in ubuntu's disc utility?07:17
XrK66Hey friends07:17
quakemack!ask if i install ubuntu on a bran new harddrive with a new format, will this alocate all of the install drive for ubuntu. ? this is what i am trying to do.07:17
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:17
mayank@sweetpi : is d solution permannent07:17
sweetpimayank: check forums for your specific motherboard and see if anyone else has this issue07:17
Flannelquakemack: By default it will, yes.07:18
mayanki think many peop ve07:18
quakemack! thank you !!! you guys rock!07:18
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:18
sweetpimayank: no its just a temporary test07:18
XrK66Install the backtrack is very cool07:18
XrK66Install the backtrack is very cool07:18
mayankbt linux hasnt been able 2 solve it07:18
asdfasdfasdfcast, i would like to deactivate the remember passphrashe feature, so  I have to manually re-enter passphrase to perform any action. i checked and the process gpg-agent is currently running despite that app telling me its not. any clue?07:18
XrK66I'm in the pentest leader07:18
pawanif i have 8.0407:18
pawanand want to upgrade to 10.0407:18
sweetpimayank: what motherboard is it?07:18
pawanis it possible07:18
icerootpawan: that can done directly07:19
castasdfasdfasdf: kill it07:19
mayank@sweetpi dunno bout it07:19
pawanok07:19
XrK66everbody use backtrack?07:19
mayankpc s at home n i never use it07:19
iceroot!backtrack | XrK6607:19
ubottuXrK66: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)07:19
asdfasdfasdfcast, you mean after finsihing performing actions? because i think seahorse would restart it everytime. though ill test.07:19
mayankdunno hw 2 chk in ubuntu07:19
mayankwindows mein it ws simple07:19
icerootmayank: what?07:19
sweetpimayank: no idea..07:20
mayankchk ur motherboard07:20
icerootmayank: use normal english please07:20
cellofellow!u | mayank07:20
ubottumayank: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.07:20
mayankyour - ur07:20
XrK66Hey07:21
spidymhm07:21
spidy:)07:21
icerootmayank: again, use nnormal english please07:21
mayankoks07:21
mayank:p07:21
cellofellowIt's not like you're typing out SMS on a number pad, you have a full-size keyboard and this is IRC where we talk in full sentences with real words.07:21
mayankdoes anyone know how to downgrade a version07:21
XrK66can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?07:21
icerootmayank: not supported07:22
XrK66can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?07:22
mayank@iceroot : wat07:22
cellofellowdowngrading is complicated and not recommended.07:22
mayankis not supported07:22
iceroot!downgrade | mayank07:22
ubottumayank: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.07:22
Flannelmayank: What do you mean downgrade?  Which version?07:22
sweetpi!help | XrK6607:22
ubottuXrK66: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:22
mayanki had 9.10 until i had software updates installed07:23
sweetpiwrong one07:23
XrK66can only enter the chat who uses ubuntu?07:23
Firstgearis there a gnome editor in Linux?07:23
FlannelXrK66: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support, if you're looking for a social channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is where you can go (and no, you don't have to use Ubuntu)07:23
icerootXrK66: no, this channel is free for everyone07:23
cellofellowFirstgear: gnome editor?07:23
icerootXrK66: but only used for technical ubuntu support07:23
XrK66ok, tranks iceroot07:23
mayankwhat if i go n install old ubuntu again07:24
mayankso no updates would be there07:24
icerootmayank: why? what is the current problem?07:24
Firstgearcellofellow: yes that allows editing of themes07:24
mayankyes hangs wen i shutdown07:24
Jibadeehatasksel is dangerous - i won't be using that ever again after it uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and all dependencies without even so much as confirmation dialog07:24
iceroot!who | mayank07:24
mayankpower off never happens07:24
ubottumayank: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)07:24
sweetpiiceroot: he says he cant shutdown after a kernel update07:25
icerootmayank: any errors? acpi enabled in bios?07:25
mayank@iceroot : i am new kindly elaborate on last point07:25
mayankthank you07:25
cellofellowFirstgear: oh. Themes in gnome are a bit of a hodgepodge of metacity themes, gtk themes, and icon sets. There's no GUI editors for metacity and gtk themes afaik, just use a text editor and gimp. Icon sets, those are generally made with inkscape I think.07:25
cellofellowFirstgear: browse around gnome-look.org if you want some themes.07:25
astropiratewhat is the proper way to read/write to the /proc/[PID]/mem interface? when ever i open it up it's empty07:26
Firstgearcellofellow: thanks07:26
vinnieHeyo07:27
vinnieCan anyone help me with my disk issues in ubtunu? I'm trying to ditch MACOSX07:27
vinnieMacbook Pro 7.107:28
chris_osxvinnie: why?07:28
vinnie Timing cached reads:   3036 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1519.34 MB/sec07:28
vinnie Timing buffered disk reads:   24 MB in  3.20 seconds =   7.49 MB/sec07:28
vinnie@chris_osx MAMP is frustrating for development07:28
vinnieI'd rather have something close to our production enviroment07:28
SwedeMike!details | vinnie07:29
ubottuvinnie: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:29
vinnie@ubotuu you got it07:29
chris_osxvinnie: ubottu is a bot07:30
vinnielol07:30
astropirate!details | SwedeMike07:30
ubottuSwedeMike: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:30
astropiratehmm what do you know.. it is a bot07:30
vinnieI am running ubuntu 10.4 I have a Macbook Pro 7.107:30
vinnie00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0d85 (rev a2)07:30
vinnieMy disk performance is terrible07:31
vinnieAnyone able to chime in on how to remedy this?07:31
erik14213uscan grub be edited from gnome07:31
TheSargeAnyone here tried the hexxeh Chromium OS build?07:31
erik14213usor has to be done guring start up07:32
bareegovinnie, if you feel adventurous you could play a bit with hdparm07:32
MHB_hi all07:32
MHB_i have ubuntu 10.4 and i need proxy braker07:33
Suit_Of_Sablesargh! ubuntu disc utility cannot format to hfs+! how the heck can I make my iPod into a bootable OSX install DVD from linux!?07:33
vinniebareego from what I've read umda6 is already enabled.07:33
vinnieAny other tricks?07:33
vinnieI have a fresh backup of the other partition so I am ready to go nuts.07:33
SwedeMikevinnie: you could try 10.10 alpha and see if that kernel works better. There are some bug reports on launchpad you could explore as well.07:33
vinnieAmazing if an alpha kernel would be better.07:34
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vinnieCan't I run whatever kernel I want? this is linux07:34
MHB_how to upgrade ubuntu 10.4 to 10.1007:35
TheSargeI How do you check md5 sums? Sorry for being a noob!07:35
vinnie Timing buffered disk reads:   24 MB in  3.10 seconds =   7.73 MB/sec07:36
castTheSarge: md5sum file07:36
vinnieI'm pretty sure that's pathetic right?07:36
TheSargecast I just have the md5 value?07:36
castvinnie: fairly.07:36
castTheSarge: and?07:36
TheSargecast: oh that was a command lol07:37
SwedeMikeMHB_: sudo update-manager -d07:37
sweetpi!info hfsprogs | Suit_Of_Sables07:37
ubottuSuit_Of_Sables: hfsprogs (source: hfsprogs): mkfs and fsck for HFS and HFS+ file systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 332.25-5 (lucid), package size 124 kB, installed size 304 kB07:37
chris_osxdo you think the latest stable vanilla kernel would run on ubuntu without problems?07:37
castvinnie: yeah, you can. you dont even have to run linux07:37
vinniecast: hah I know I don't, but I want to07:37
chris_osxthat was @all07:37
vinnieThinking I should just go buy a 600buck shit box07:38
efusehey07:38
efusestupid question here07:38
castthey all are, don't worry07:38
efusehow do i make it so when i hold down the middle mouse, i scroll07:38
efuselike how it works in windows.07:38
vinnieFrustating a 2 thousand dollar comp won't from an open source system properly07:38
efusebiggest complaint i have so far07:38
castvinnie: one does have to be careful to buy decent hardware07:39
vinniecast: I would think the hardward in my brand new mbp is good no?07:39
efusevinnie, stop crying07:39
thune3vinnie: it would be interesting to see the line in output of "mount" that corresponds to your 'slow drive'07:39
efusecast, do you know how to do what i want to do with the mouse?07:39
vinnieefuse: :p07:40
castmaybe it is, or maybe its crap. it might be crap because it might need weird drivers07:40
MHB_is after the upgrade i need to install all app agin07:40
castefuse: nope.07:40
efusedamn07:40
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efusethis is very similar to what i am use to07:40
efusefuckin around in freebsd, etc07:40
XrK66Do you now any channels on backtrack?07:40
efuse#backtrack-linux07:41
XrK66i dont found it07:41
efuseofficial channel, script kiddie07:41
XrK66ok07:41
XrK66tranks07:41
efusenp07:41
chris_osxwhat is backtrack?07:41
Suit_Of_Sablessweetpi: I don't understand? is that a package that will allow for hfs support in ubuntu?07:41
efuselinux distro for script kiddies07:41
MHB_how to chang my hostname07:41
chris_osxefuse: omg07:41
sweetpiSuit_Of_Sables: it will allow you to format and check for errors07:42
MaRk-I!hostname | MHB_07:42
ubottuMHB_: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.07:42
jonaskoelkerQuestion  :   I downloaded ubuntu.iso and want to put it on a USB stick under _debian_.  How do I go about this?07:42
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: unetbootin07:43
smackmanicwhat is the cor07:43
smackmanicoops07:43
vinniethune3: [    2.179213] EXT4-fs (sda3): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode07:43
smackmanicwhat is the correct way to load the kernel from the grub cmd line?07:43
castsmackmanic: heh. with the kernel command07:43
castsmackmanic: then the boot command07:43
smackmaniccast, haha..yah....yah07:44
smackmanici mean... i got the ver info, but...would it be kernel-ubuntu-linux07:44
smackmanicor what....ive never loaded it from a cmdline before myself07:44
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: thanks, I'll try that.  I think it oughta' be on the install page; to whom do I suggest that?  bugs.ubuntu.com?07:44
castsmackmanic: to complicate things you may have a initrd, too07:45
smackmanicoh please no more complications...im almost dead07:45
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: ubuntu has one implemented, havent tried it tho, I prefer unetbootin07:45
castread the grub manual, grub is neat07:45
smackmanicive been reading it on and off the past 3 hrs07:46
smackmanictrying diff things07:46
somethinginteresDoes Ubuntu support SSD hard drives?07:46
smackmanicim just trying to figure out the correct um...syntax i guess07:46
castsomethinginteres: yes.07:46
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: what I mean is, the install page says "do you want to create a USB stick on ( ) Windows ( ) Mac ( ) Ubuntu", I think it should say "( ) other linux" too07:46
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: ... with a step-by-step guide, even07:46
smackmanicactually, cast, will uname -a work in grub?07:46
castno.07:46
smackmaniceff.07:47
vinniethune3: ?07:47
castwhatever do you think it would tell you07:47
cjaeno sound on youtube? 64 bit07:47
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: that's not a bug then..... suggest a feature?07:47
castcjae: flash sucks. don't use it.07:47
smackmanicidk my brain is going dead from all this07:47
somethinginterescast: thanks, looking at buying one.. didn't want to go ahead with it if Ubuntu couldn't utilise it07:47
smackmanici just wanna try to load kernel and boot now, one last thing tonight07:47
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: fair enough; that's still at bugs.ubuntu.com?  Do they have a special section for "ubuntu.com web site"?07:47
sweetpismackmanic: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-<version> root=<your_root_dev>; initrd /boot/initrd-<version>; boot07:47
smackmanicif i cant get this working tomorrow......07:47
vinniecjae: flash does suck.07:47
smackmanichm07:48
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/07:48
castsomethinginteres: the operating system doesn't even know, it just turns up as a block device07:48
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: do they ever listen to that?07:48
castsomethinginteres: erm, as any other sata drive does07:48
Suit_Of_Sablessweetpi: sorry to bother you again, but do you know if hfsprogs is in a repo? I can't seem to find it07:49
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: if enough people vote... I mean you think they'll implement something for just 1 person?07:49
sweetpi!info hfsprogs > Suit_Of_Sables07:49
cjaecast: yeah I see there is html5 for youtube but cant seem to figure out how to use it07:49
jonaskoelkerMaRk-I: if it's in the bug tracker and they think it's a good idea, yeah07:49
geraudk2000hello07:49
KL-7Hi, I need some advice. I need download manager for ubuntu with pause/resume ability witch allows to browse ftp servers. Smth like reget delux on Win.07:50
sweetpi!info hfsprogs07:50
ubottuhfsprogs (source: hfsprogs): mkfs and fsck for HFS and HFS+ file systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 332.25-5 (lucid), package size 124 kB, installed size 304 kB07:50
castcjae: i googled for html5 youtube07:50
sweetpiSuit_Of_Sables: its in universe07:50
smackmanicsweetpi, could you use that as an exact command for me, 2.6.24-28-generic /dev/sda1 as it would be actually typed?07:50
cjaecast: and that join and part button or what07:50
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: then create an account submit your idea and have people vote on it07:50
smackmanicmy head is killing me07:50
castKL-7: lftp could do that, but likely, too advanced for what you're looking for07:50
somethinginterescast: righto. I have zero idea on hardware so I figured it paid to check just in case. :) Thanks.07:50
castsomethinginteres: might want to check up on something called trim ;)07:51
cjaeso I have login music but no youtube sound07:51
sweetpismackmanic: for real?07:51
castsomethinginteres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM07:51
MaRk-Ijonaskoelker: go to Number 2   see what it says:   http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download07:51
cjaegot it pcm07:51
RedSonjaHello All.07:52
smackmanicsweetpi: i havent had any sleep...im trying to get this right, have to reboot everytime...been working on this for the past 48 hrs07:52
RedSonjaI need some halp.07:52
smackmanicit's overwhelming me07:52
RedSonjaPlz?07:52
smackmanicso i wanna try this one last thing tonite before I call it in07:52
sweetpismackmanic: smackmanic: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-28-generic root=/dev/sda1; initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.24-28-generic; boot07:52
smackmanicsweetpi: thanks, reallllllllly appreciate that07:52
sweetpismackmanic: get rid of the semi-colons, its 3 entries07:52
smackmanicah 3 sep commands07:53
efusehey07:53
efusehow do i join a windows workgroup07:53
efuseso i can see my shares07:53
MaRk-I!ask | RedSonja07:53
ubottuRedSonja: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:53
KL-7cast, it doesn't have gui interface, does it? For this purpose I'd like to have smth with gui...07:53
bareegoefuse I found dolphin seems to work the easiest for browsing workgroups07:54
castKL-7: no, no it does not :)07:54
castall the best apps dont use guis!07:54
bareegocast next you tell him to use smbclient or what ?07:54
bareegolol07:54
smackmanicbrb07:55
sweetpiwhats wrong with smbclient.. hmph07:55
castnah, i avoid windows file sharing protocols07:55
bareegosweetpi, it's not "clicky"07:55
sweetpibah, i dont even have a mouse07:56
somethinginterescast: will do.07:56
giovWhat am I missing, when make for a wifi driver gives:  "/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." ?07:56
bareegohey, I do like to ssh into my server and see what screen is doing, too07:56
KL-7cast, I know, but as long as I use gnome I'd like to have some gui =)07:56
chris_osxsweetpi, you have a trackpad :-)07:56
sweetpichris_osx: sshhh07:56
MaRk-Igiov: did you install build-essentials and kernel headers?07:57
giovWhat am I missing, when make for a wifi driver gives:  "/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." ??07:58
TheSargewtf I have downloaded this tar.gz from 3 sources and a torrent and it keeps erroring in the unrar/gzip?07:58
sweetpi!repeat | giov07:59
ubottugiov: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.07:59
giovMaRk-I: b-e yes, not kernel headers07:59
sinurgehi, big issue, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a  freeze post nw time sync08:00
TheSargeI was outta disk space lmao08:00
castTheSarge: there is no unrar. its a tarball.08:00
TheSargecast: Ya thats what I meant lol08:00
giovMaRk-I: linux-headers-386 ?08:02
MaRk-Igiov: do "uname -ar"   and install the matching kernel header08:02
giovMaRk-I: thanks08:03
MaRk-Igiov: yw08:03
MaRk-Igiov: this might work:   sudo apt-get -y install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:04
Blue1is there a reason, why the battery icon in the netbook remix, doesn't display the remaining power left, like it did in 9.10?08:04
ArchanaIs it possible to buy a laptop from dell with integrated webcam and with 10.04 installed ?08:05
ttt--hi, i get weird errors 'read only file system' all of a sudden!08:05
ikoniaArchana: look on the dell website08:05
MaRk-IArchana: check their website08:05
ttt--suddenly i cant write to my hard disk. what could be causing this?08:06
Archanaikonia, ok08:06
ArchanaMaRk-I, ok08:06
bareegottt--, odd, had that as well yesterday08:06
bareegohad to reboot and run check on disk08:06
sinurgerepeating again, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a  freeze post nw time sync08:06
ttt--bareego, did you run fsck? or how did you fix it?08:07
MaRk-I!maverick | sinurge08:07
ubottusinurge: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+108:07
chris_osxis it a good idea to install a vanilla kernel?08:07
icerootchris_osx: why you need a newer kernel?08:07
Archanaikonia, only 9.04 on netbook/laptop and without integ webcam :(08:07
chris_osxiceroot: i just would try out the latest stable kernel from kernel.org08:08
Archanaikonia, do you know any other like dell which has 10.04 and with integrated webcam ?08:08
icerootchris_osx: then do it and find out yourself if it is a good idea08:08
chris_osxlol08:08
sinurgewhats the command to check what kernal version am running now08:08
ikoniaArchana: no08:08
icerootsinurge: uname -a08:08
MaRk-IArchana: check system76 website08:08
icerootsinurge: uname -r08:09
TheSargeArchana: I Just got a 1564 Inspirion and my webcam doesnt work yet :(08:09
skumarawhen i play avi files in VLC i got no sound. but i can play mp3 in amorok got sound. help?08:09
chris_osxiceroot: i did that with gentoo linux a few years ago and it worked without any problems08:09
ArchanaTheSarge, Good luck .08:09
icerootchris_osx: its not easy to answer if it is a good idea, so its up to your opinion08:09
sinurgeoh yeah thanks tried uname -a08:09
ArchanaMaRk-I, Ok. I am checking it08:09
TheSargelol08:09
TheSargeBut its so fat! lol08:09
icerootchris_osx: as i said, find out yourself08:09
TheSargefast!08:10
bareegottt--, it did by itself when I rebooted08:10
ttt--bareego,  can you remember what you did to fix it? just run fsck?08:10
TheSargeJust getting the wireless to work is a bear08:10
bareegottt--, I rebooted and fsck ran and fixed it08:10
chris_osxiceroot: ok. i just didn't know if there are certain reasons why on ubuntu you shouldn't try it08:10
TheSargeWasnt dell preinstalling these things with Ubuntu, wtf doesnt everything just work?08:11
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icerootchris_osx: ubuntu related kernel-patches08:11
MaRk-I!fsck | ttt--08:11
ubottuttt--: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot08:11
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TheSargeI heard MS paid Dell lots to drop outta Dellbuntu08:11
ttt--ok. i'll try that, thanks08:11
ikoniaTheSarge: that's nothing to do with this channel08:12
icerootchris_osx: i am running 2.6.34 fine on ubuntu but i dont wat to say, yes its always a good idea to run vanilla kernel08:12
chris_osxiceroot: where can i find out what ubuntu patched into the kernel?08:12
TheSargeWell it is but its off topic sorry :(08:12
ikoniachris_osx: the kernel soource package contains the ubuntu patches08:12
icerootchris_osx: have a look at lauchpad for the patches applied to the source-package08:12
chris_osxiceroot: ok thanks08:13
smackmanicloaded kernel,init, booot, bleh.../dev/sda1/ does not exist..so i figured..maybe i got it wrong (didnt think so but tried) sda2...same thing08:13
ikoniasmackmanic: is this ubuntu 10.04 ?08:13
icerootikonia: the source package doesnt contain the patches imo, they are applied while building and not part of the source-package08:13
smackmanicin busybox ls /dev i dont see ANYthing remotely close to that, however im not sure if i should08:13
seidosdoes sudo aptitude show packagename show the actual size of the package?08:13
smackmanicikonia, yes08:14
ikoniaiceroot: they are in the source package and refernced from the deb control file08:14
smackmanicjust updated around 2 days ago, havent been able to boot up ubuntu since08:14
ikoniasmackmanic: then disks should be referenced by uuid not, not /dev/sda why did you change it  from uuid ?08:14
icerootikonia: thanks for the info08:14
smackmanicikonia: because there is some sort of bug that won't recognize  the uuid08:14
smackmanichence im trying alt ways to get into ubuntu atm08:14
ikoniasmackmanic: no there isn't08:15
smackmanicyes, there is08:15
ikoniasmackmanic: ubuntu recognises the uuid just fine08:15
ikoniasmackmanic: why don't you explain th eproblem08:15
ikoniathe08:15
smackmaniclol ubuntu does not...08:15
smackmanichttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html08:15
ikoniasmackmanic: explain the problem08:15
smackmanicidentical problem, however i cant get that fix to work08:16
ikoniasmackmanic: you get the dropping to shell error ?08:16
smackmanicyep08:16
smackmanicplease tell me you know something about it08:16
smackmanicother than 'use livecd' cause i dont have a way to do that anytime soon08:16
ikoniasmackmanic: first, was this a 9.04 to -> 10.04 install08:16
smackmanic8.04 to 10.0408:17
ikoniasmackmanic: , ok good, so you're using grub108:17
smackmanicyeah08:17
tikhi08:18
ikoniasmackmanic: boot from the livecd, run "sudo blkid" and verify the uuid's against the one used in /boot/grub/menu.lst on your boot directory on your ubuntu install (make sure not the live cd's file system)08:18
smackmanic=/08:19
sweetpihehe.. "other than 'use livecd'"08:19
smackmanicfml08:19
smackmanicim sooooooooooo fried08:19
tiktake a break08:19
ikoniasmackmanic: sorry, when you said "other than use the livecd" does that mean you don't have a livecd08:19
smackmanicikonia: at the moment i can't get one. not enough space (believe i tried to clear everything)08:20
ikoniasmackmanic: ok, tell me about your system, how many disks, how many partitions ?08:20
smackmanicone harddrive...linux/windows dual boot08:20
Suit_Of_Sablesdoes anyone know how to 'restore' a volume from a .dmg file in ubuntu? Do i need to convert it to an ISO?08:20
smackmanicim currently in windows08:20
pawanhi08:20
MaRk-Ismackmanic: can you boot from an earlier kernel?08:20
ikoniasmackmanic: how many partitions ?08:20
pawancan i upgrade from 8.04 64 bit lts to 10.04 32 bit08:21
ikoniapawan: no08:21
pawanthen08:21
ikoniapawan: you can't change 64->32 or 32->6408:21
smackmanicikonia, i wanna say 3...windows, linux...and whatever you'd call the other...sorry, newbie08:21
ikoniasmackmanic: swap ?08:21
smackmanicright...i guess we count that08:21
smackmanicMaRk-I: I'm not sure08:21
ikoniasmackmanic: so including swap 3 ?08:21
smackmanicyea08:22
smackmanicincluding swap 308:22
ikoniasmackmanic: ok, so was windows on the machine first ?08:22
TheSargeWhich virtualbox package do I need to just install virtualbox? There is so man in apt-cache search virtualbox08:22
smackmanicyeah08:22
ikoniasmackmanic: ok, you may want to make a note of this08:22
smackmanicwindows was on here first, then ubuntu08:22
smackmanicok08:22
TheSargevirtualbox-ose?08:22
ikoniasmackmanic: boot the machine, you'll get grub08:22
cntrationalhow do i make a gparted liveusb08:22
ejvhello, i had ubuntu installed, then decided to install windows, now grub is gone, and only XP boots, how do I fix ?08:22
ikoniasmackmanic: scroll down to the ubuntu 10.04 kernel using the arrow keys08:23
cntrationalejv: easiest way is to reinstall ubuntu08:23
ikoniasmackmanic: press "e" when the ubuntu kernel is hilighted08:23
smackmanicright08:23
ikoniasmackmanic: this will put you into an "edit" mode.08:23
smackmanicyes...08:23
smackmanici've been there for a good 3 hrs...lol08:23
theDomanyone fix the Eclipse crashing on startup problem in 10.04?08:23
DavidJHeinrichhi all, question...I had a GNOME panel that I made to to the right side of the screen & autohide...now it won't show up again...how can I fix this?08:23
ejvcntrational: why reinstall ubuntu, can't i just reinstall Grub somehow...08:23
pawanhello08:23
ikoniasmackmanic: move to where the uuid is referenced, and change it to /dev/sda2 and then enter, then press "b" to boot08:23
cntrationalejv: hmm wait a second08:24
ikoniasmackmanic: if that doesn't work change it to /dev/sda308:24
ikoniasmackmanic: the reason I can't be sure is I don't know which is your swap and which is your root file system08:24
smackmanicwhat about hd0,108:24
pawanpawan here08:24
ikoniasmackmanic: that shoulnd't need changing08:24
efusehaving some random linux fun08:25
smackmanicikonia...it might...heh08:25
ikoniasmackmanic: that gives me a hint that your disks should be /dev/sda2 though08:25
ikoniasmackmanic: why would it need changing ?08:25
smackmanicikonia, i can actually pull up windows sys info and show which part is which08:25
ikoniasmackmanic: doesn't matter what windows see's it as08:26
ikoniasmackmanic: ubuntu may see it different08:26
smackmanicno I can tell by the gig space08:26
smackmaniclol08:26
ikoniasmackmanic: I'm %80 confident it's /dev/sda2 though08:26
TheSargecan you not run virtualbox on a 64 bit install?08:26
kzmc99Hello. I am trying to boot a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 install on an older laptop. Windows is installed to HD0 and Ubuntu is installed to HD1, an external hard drive. Upon booting, I enter GRUB rescue and GRUB cannot seem to see HD1 via the ls command. What am I doing wrong?08:26
cntrationalejv: boot up the ubuntu livecb08:27
pawanare torrent sites good08:27
smackmanicikonia...well...ill go try...this again..08:27
cntrationalejv: type in "grub-install" (without quotes) into the terminal08:27
ikoniapawan: what torents sites, for what08:27
cntrationaler08:27
smackmanic(this is what i've been doing for the past hr or so.)08:27
smackmanicbut brb08:27
pawanfor music08:27
ikoniasmackmanic: you've been using /dev/sda2 ?08:27
cntrationalejv: sorry, type in "grub-install /dev/hda"08:27
pawansoftwares08:27
ikoniapawan: that's illegal and offtopic here08:27
pawanok08:28
cntrationalejv: i'm not sure about this, so you might want to get a second opinion from somebody else08:28
smackmanicikonia: ill be back in a sec...08:28
pawanany good sexy sites08:28
ikoniapawan: stop now08:29
pawanok08:29
ikoniapawan: you've been here before, you know the rules, stop08:29
pawansorry08:29
kzmc99Is it simply not possible for an internal drive's GRUB bootloader to see USB drives?08:29
ikoniakzmc99: totally possible08:29
pawanpawan from australia08:29
kzmc99ikonia: what am I doing wrong? GRUB rescue doesn't even see the usb drive08:29
ikoniakzmc99: it depends on a lot of things how/if the external drive can be used08:30
ikoniakzmc99: has the external drive ever booted ubuntu before ?08:30
pawanhello08:30
kzmc99ikonia: it's a brand new external drive08:30
ikoniapawan: you've said that, do you have an ubuntu question08:30
kzmc99ikonia: freshly partitioned in gparted08:30
ikoniakzmc99: how did you install ubuntu on it ?08:31
tikuhm instaling ubuntu on a externa USdrive usually won't work08:31
tikUSB08:31
ikoniatik: works fine08:31
kzmc99ikonia: via the livecd, typical install08:31
tikgo into boot menu and try booting off it08:31
tiknot im what I've read08:32
tikUSB ok08:32
ikoniatik: it depends on the motherboard and how it presents the disk08:32
tikexternal, only in 10%08:32
tikthumbdriers are ok08:32
tikdrives08:32
ikoniatik: as I said it depends on the motherboard and how / when it presents a disk08:32
tikok08:32
kzmc99tik, ikonia: it's a typical 300gb western digital external. motherboard is outdated laptop08:32
tikusualy won't ork08:33
tikwork08:33
Archana!panels | DavidJHeinrich08:33
ubottuDavidJHeinrich: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »08:33
ikoniakzmc99: ok, in that situation, I'd bet it won't work as tik suggested08:33
tikgoogle it if you don't believe me08:33
kzmc99what's the way to go then?08:33
kzmc99there's no workaround even?08:33
ikoniakzmc99: in what respect ?08:33
ikoniakzmc99: , the motherboard doesn't present the disk in a way that grub can see08:33
tikdi you try booting off of it in the boot menu of your computer?08:33
tikusually escape08:34
ikoniakzmc99: does your laptop support booting from usb ?08:34
kzmc99unfortunately this model doesn't have a boot menu of its own08:34
ikoniakzmc99: no work around then08:34
tikwhy are you installing to a usb drive anyway?08:34
kzmc99what about with lilo or the windows bootloader? same deal?08:34
cntrationalI've tried using unetbootin to install gparted onto a usb drive, but it gets errors if i try to boot08:34
kzmc99the laptop hasn't got enough internal drive space for ubuntu08:34
ikoniakzmc99: can't use the windows boot loader, and lilo will have the same problem08:35
tikum08:35
tikhm08:35
MaRk-Ikzmc99: last thing would be if theres a BIOS update for that laptop that'll make it detect usb drives at boot up...  (but that hardly happens)08:36
pawanhello08:36
ikoniapawan: you've said that08:36
ikoniapawan: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no08:36
pawanyes08:36
ikoniapawan: please ask it then08:36
kzmc99mark-i: i'll check08:36
pawanis 10.04 better than 9.1008:36
ikoniapawan: just a later release08:37
pawanwhere are u from ikonia08:37
ikoniapawan: that doesn't matter, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only08:37
tikid instal the server version08:37
milen8204Hello all, What was the name of the program which i can change my mac address08:37
pawanok08:37
tikwhat ws his nick08:37
tikwas08:37
shreymechpawan,  please do not waste time here.. directly ask your question08:37
MaRk-Ikzmc99: if there is an update, make sure it says to upgrade usb detection or something otherwise it would be a waste of time08:37
pawanya08:37
tikkzmc99: id install the ubuntu sever version08:38
pawanthen08:38
tikbare minimum08:38
ikoniatik: why would the server version make a difference ?08:38
ikoniatik: he's still going to want to put a desktop on it08:38
tikbecause hes ose on space08:38
tiklow08:38
pawananyone from india08:38
ikoniatik: but if he wants a desktop experience, it will be the same space08:38
kzmc99it's for someone who has never used linux before, and he's really enthusiastic about giving it a try..so i hate to let him down08:38
tikthen install openbox08:38
ikoniapawan: is your native language english ?08:39
pawanyes08:39
pawanwhy08:39
kzmc99i believe he's down to virtually nil hard drive space08:39
jon_ubuntu linux for retards08:39
ikoniapawan: then why are you not understanding what I say about the topic of this channel08:39
pawanok08:39
tikheh08:39
tikooh sneaky08:39
shreymechshreymech, this community is not for fun... if you have problem regarding Ubu. than ask..08:39
=== chris_osx is now known as chris_osx_
pawanmann08:40
shreymechpawan, , this community is not for fun... if you have problem regarding Ubu. than ask..08:40
CrackGuydoes anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?08:40
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smackmanicall the numbers i tried would give one individual error, cant mount...........except sda2, which would actually give me the original error and drop me to busybox08:41
smackmanicinforming that /dev/sda2 does not exist..08:41
poopsmithcan u run osx86 on athlon64bit08:41
pawangood community08:41
ikoniapoopsmith: this is nothing to do with ubuntu08:41
poopsmithi know08:41
ikoniapawan: this will be your final warning08:41
ikoniapoopsmith: then please don't ask in an ubuntu support chanel08:41
shreymechikonia, better kick him out08:42
pawanok08:42
poopsmithwhats an ubuntu08:42
TheEskimo!ubuntu | poopsmith08:42
ubottupoopsmith: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com08:42
smackmanicikonia: what do you think....it's definitely sda2....but....it says it doesnt exist....08:42
poopsmithhow do i ubuntu then08:43
jeraldhow to install program using terminal08:43
ikonia!install | poopsmith08:43
ubottupoopsmith: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate08:43
ikoniasmackmanic: just walking through your sitution in my head08:43
ikoniajerald: apt-get08:43
jeraldikonia, sample program like skype how to?08:43
ikonia!skype | jerald08:44
ubottujerald: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga08:44
smackmanicok...ikonia...if we can rollback.... to my earlier version.....if it's fairly safe and clean....i might be interested in doing that...i am going to take a 5 min breather08:44
sabotSo I have a 2gb sd card I installed ubuntu on. Yet I only have 512 available space. Why? Can I change this to the full 2gb?08:44
smackmanicbe back in a few mins08:44
poopsmithjerald: sudo apt-get install skype08:44
jeraldpoopsmith, thanks08:44
TheEskimosabot: the os takes up space you know.08:44
=== chazz_ is now known as chazz
sabot:S geez, ubuntu really takes up 1.5 gbs?08:45
CrackGuydoes anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?08:45
TheEskimosabot: however, you should still check with a partitioning tool to make sure you have all the space you can. But yeah, it takes up 1.5 gigs easily.08:45
Furtanoi cant find my phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) 408:45
sabotIm going puppy linux then :/08:45
ikoniasabot: ok, bye08:45
TheEskimoThough it can be varied some. But yes, for a thinner distro puppy is a good idea. Look at DSL08:45
TheEskimo(damn small linux)08:46
sabotI tried dsl at first, had problems. well see. thanks for answering08:46
=== Farmer__ is now known as Farmer_
tikquestion: does anyone know a watermarking program for ater marking videos in linux (not images)08:47
pawanhi08:47
TheEskimogood luck sabot08:47
poopsmithis there a version of ubuntu that comes preloaded 2 look like osx08:47
daniel_treehow can I check all the sensors ( temp , cpu ram..) in cl ?08:47
ikoniapawan: no08:47
ikoniapoopsmith: no08:47
tikpoopsmith: uhm 10.4 is a osx/ win mx08:47
astropiratei have a problem with the look and feel since i have moved to KDE from GNOME for some reason alot of the "non-kde" applications are keeping their look and feel from gnome and aren't matching the current theme08:47
astropiratewhat could be causing t his?08:47
shreymechanybody .. how to setup a DSL wifi connection .. i have a username and pass. provided by service provider.. i m using 10.0408:47
sweetpi!sensors | daniel_tree08:48
ubottudaniel_tree: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.08:48
TheEskimo!offtopic | shreymech08:48
ubottushreymech: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:48
tikshreymech: uhm user and pass ae set on the route not by the service provider08:48
ManDayI got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?08:49
shreymechtik,  in a DSL connection we have been given a username and pass..08:49
tikherbmonk: he just said he is using 10.04 on a dsl connection not damn small linux ;)08:49
poopsmithnon of the software in ubuntu studio works.. why08:49
tiker08:49
tikTheEskimo:08:49
tiki ma08:49
tikmean08:49
FloodBot1tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:49
TheEskimotik?08:49
tiksoz, can't type08:49
tikhes on topic08:49
TheEskimoYeah. I thought he was asking for isp support type stuff (setting up the modem) for a sec, not interfacing with it on an ubuntu box.08:50
tikhe wats help setting up his dslconnection in 10.0408:50
TheEskimoMy mistake08:50
tik;)08:50
TheEskimoThanks tik for catching me :)08:50
seidosI have a directory in ~/ that I can't delete.  I get this error:  rm: missing operand08:50
poopsmithnone of the software in ubuntu studio works.. why08:50
ziposkwho ziposk08:50
TheEskimoseidos: What is the exact command you use?08:50
tikSedated: try rm -rf but be sure you want to remove it08:51
seidosTheEskimo, I've tried rm -r ##C and sudo rm -r ##C08:51
ManDayI got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?08:51
TheEskimoseidos:##c? is that the name of the directory?08:52
smackmanicback08:52
herbmonktik: ??08:52
seidosTheEskimo, yes08:52
smackmanicikonia: so...do you think a rollback would be fine08:52
TheEskimoDoes # need to be escaped?08:52
smackmanicit seems maybe the least complicated path...but i've never rolled back08:52
Furtanoi cant find my phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) 408:53
sweetpiTheEskimo: yes, else its a comment08:53
tiksorry08:53
tikwhatsup? lemme scroll back08:53
seidosTheEskimo, you mean using a \?08:53
TheEskimoseidos: one sec while I test08:53
seidosTheEskimo, heh, depends what you mean by "pound"08:53
* seidos wants to escape a poundage08:53
tikManDay: its no named 64 or 32?08:54
TheEskimoseidos: rm -rf \#\#c08:54
seidosTheEskimo, rm -r \##C worked, thank you.08:54
hasenjhow can I search for packages from the command line without `aptitude`? I'm used to doing aptitude search08:54
dustini need to get blakberry software running using wine, any help please?08:54
seidosI have no idea how that directory got there08:54
TheEskimoGlad to hear seidos08:54
tikFurtano: lsudo updatedb and then locate phomyadn I think it installs to /var/www and you have to my it to /var/www08:54
tikersudo udatedb08:55
tikca't type08:55
tiksudo updatedb08:55
poopsmithis it possible to run windows inside of  ubuntu like how ucan on windows with the virtualbox seamless type mode08:55
tikdustin: if you have a higher end computer try using virtal box08:55
ikoniasmackmanic: a roll back is not possible08:55
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, poke poke08:55
ikoniapoopsmith: only in a virtual environment08:55
smackmaniccwillu_at_work: heh...still trying.08:55
cwillu_at_workthere's some timing :/08:55
cwillu_at_worksmackmanic, check your pm's08:56
smackmanicikoniaz: really?08:56
TheEskimopoopsmith: Yes. You can use virtualbox to do it08:56
smackmanicok08:56
ikoniasmackmanic: yes08:56
smackmanicwow08:56
sirninjaIf I were to set up ssh tunneling over the internet what would be the safest practices to do?08:56
ManDayI got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?08:56
ManDayAny one?08:56
sirninjamanday: do you have the iso you burned?08:57
ManDayno08:57
ManDaysirninja:08:57
ikoniaManDay: are you booting from the live image ?08:57
MaRk-IManDay: just run the live image and do lsb_release -a08:57
ikoniaManDay: run "file" against a binary on i08:57
ikoniait08:57
ManDayikonia: right08:57
daniel_treeubottu, sensors command in my case shows only 2 temps( cpu's)08:57
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:57
ManDayikonia: thanks :)08:58
sirninjawhat would be the safest method to enable remote ssh login from the internet but only by me?08:58
tiksirninja: change the port and restrict ip's in iptables08:59
TheEskimotik: that isn't all08:59
TheEskimoOne sec08:59
ikoniasirninja: enable ssh keys only and make sure you are the only one with a key, tie it down with iptables to your ip address, use hosts.allow to only allow your ip address08:59
llutzsirninja: use AllowedUsers in sshd.config08:59
TheEskimosirninja: Yes. Use public/private key auth. Not passwords09:00
FrijolieI think I just goofed something up. I ran a 'sudo rm -r /usr/share/fonts/truetype'. what's the installation package to get ttf's back?09:00
tikFrijolie: hehe09:00
sirninjaI don't know if the ip I'll be accessing it from will always be the same though09:00
Frijolietik, yeah I wasn't thinking...09:00
sirninjais it possible to make it block an ip after so many failed attempts? of course running on a nonstandard port would stop 99% of people from trying to begin with wouldn't it?09:01
tiksirninja: add a range09:01
tikand check log regularly09:01
tikyes install fail2ban09:01
llutzsirninja: look at fail2ban or denyhosts09:01
sirninjaok. Thanks. Hopefully that will be enough. :D09:02
poopsmithdoes ubuntu have a hosts file09:02
WaltzingAlongpoopsmith: yes09:02
Name141Is there 3D support for the Radeon 4670?09:02
efusedon't buy ati cards.09:02
Name141efuse: 4670 ate the 9500GT09:02
tikFrijolie: idk.. look into uhm apt-file or maybe thy are on thelivecd an you can cp them?09:02
TheEskimoName141: There are offical ati drivers from ati. They are proprietary09:02
poopsmithefuse: atis crappy hardware or nvidias horible drivers.. its win lose09:03
TheEskimoName141: I think they do support all current hd cards since the hd 2xxx09:03
Frijolietik, what's the default font for ubuntu?09:03
tikno idea09:03
tiki've never messed with fonts09:03
Name141TheEskimo: Should I even attempt to move over to Ubuntu running my games on Wine?09:03
sirninjaI really don't have to worry about accidentally being blocked by fail2ban if I only use keys and not passwords do I?09:04
TheEskimoName141: It depends on which games.09:04
Name141(through steam)09:04
Suit_Of_SablesI converted an OSX install DVD dmg to a linux mountable img file. anyone know how I could slap that sucker on an iPod to boot from it?09:04
TheEskimoName141: Steam games... Work... A little. not very well though. It is really hit and run. With a bit of effort they can be playable, but not as good as windows.09:04
poopsmithlol wat09:04
Name141TheEskimo: Portal, HL1-HL2:EP2, Star Wars Shadows of the empire, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Unreal - UT3 Black09:04
Furtanobrowser can't find /phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) ! why?09:05
sweetpi!piracy | Suit_Of_Sables09:05
ubottuSuit_Of_Sables: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o09:05
TheEskimoName141: Crysis. never09:05
sirninjafurtano: I'm pretty sure it's case sensitive. make sure you have the right case09:05
TheEskimoName141: The source games yes, the rest no. And still, not well09:05
WaltzingAlongFurtano: check the apache log09:05
poopsmithlol source games run beter inside virtual box with 3d support turned on than through wine09:05
poopsmithtrue story09:05
Suit_Of_Sablessweetpi: This is not piracy!!! I'm on a macbook! explain to me how you can by one of these overpriced turds WITHOUT paying for the OS?!09:06
Name141TheEskimo: Looks like I'll be doing DirectX9.0C gaming then.  I'm not buying Windows709:06
TheEskimoName141: If gaming is important to you than ubuntu just won't work that well. You can still duel boot if oyu like09:06
iceman_3233hello09:06
tikyou can get 10 with tinyvista :(09:06
WaltzingAlongSuit_Of_Sables: nonetheless, not ubuntu related.09:06
timonApart from cksum is there any other command to do the checksumming of files. I need to do the checksumming of original and downloaded files and do a comparison test between the two. Any ideas??09:07
poopsmithnamee141: wo said u have 2 buy it?09:07
Suit_Of_SablesWaltzingAlong: I need to get OSX installed again so I can have rEFIt so i can boot into UBUNTU09:07
iceman_3233Vuze is not working on 10.10?09:07
poopsmithname141: who said u have 2 buy it?09:07
tiknot a warez channel09:07
sweetpiSuit_Of_Sables: you were already told this in ##linux. and it is piracy when you download a tarball with a dmg of macosx in it09:07
tikyou are gnna get bnned09:07
Name141poopsmith: No comment.09:07
poopsmithi wasnt suggesting that09:07
tikhehe09:07
tikmd5sum ?09:08
poopsmithill admit it superbar rocks09:08
tlarsonwhats the command to tell which package a given file came from?09:08
Name141poopsmith: Well it'd be off topic to ask if "anybody's got a license they aren't using on their 3 pack"09:08
Name141so I can't.09:08
cwillu_at_worktlarson, dpkg-query -S /file/name I believe09:08
WaltzingAlongapt-file ?09:08
tikcwillu_at_work: you work nights?09:08
Suit_Of_Sablesyou could just say you don't know, which would be more honest. bottom line is I paid for the damn software09:08
tikgood tip09:08
cwillu_at_worktik, I don't sleep09:09
blunderheh09:09
tikme either :P09:09
* blunder relates09:09
ndevastatorcan anyone tell me how to add a program to the open with menu ?09:09
tlarsoncwillu_at_work, ty09:09
tik"Main Menu" ndevastator09:09
tikSyste Pref09:09
ndevastatortik, no i dont want to add it to a menu... i want to add it to the open with options for a file09:10
ndevastatortik, for example i want to add gPHPEdit to the open with menu when u right click on a php file09:10
tikoooh09:11
tikhold on09:11
* poopsmith passes gas09:11
blunderoh noes09:11
guest1properties - the 3 tab "open with"09:12
poopsmithwhy cant netbook remix be more like jolicloud09:12
RenardGreyHello. I use thunderbird and an gmail account with pop protocole. When I get the mails, they are removed on gmail server from the incoming directory, but are move to the dustbin directory. How to remove the mail automatically after getting thenm on thunderbird?09:12
poopsmithempathy is ur friend09:13
WaltzingAlongRenardGrey: might need to configure that on the gmail side09:13
tikndevastator: right click the file you want to ope with gPHPEdit and then "open with another application" and make sureremember is checked09:13
TechNiZohello09:13
sweetpipoopsmith: do you have a real question, or are you here to troll all night?09:13
TheEskimo!hi | TechNiZo09:13
ubottuTechNiZo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!09:13
poopsmithsweetpi: ouch09:13
RenardGreyWaltzingAlong: I have already done it, but it doesn't work09:14
ndevastatortik,  it only allows you to select from a predetermined list.... and gPHPEdit isnt in that list09:14
tikuhm 1sec09:14
s4my system fails to starts and leave me on grub> prompt09:14
tik"use custom command"09:14
tikits prob in /bin or /usr/bin09:14
tiks4: are you dual booing?09:15
tikbooting09:15
ManDayWhat is the diff between "Safely Remove Drive" and "Eject" ?09:15
s4i am using using ubuntu 10.04lts with dual booting09:15
TheEskimoManDay: Essentially no difference I think.09:15
tikManDay: non really09:15
s4tik yes09:15
tiks4: thats why09:15
ManDayTheEskimo: well then, great to have the choice...09:15
TheEskimoIndeed :)09:15
s4what should i do now to rectify now is this the problem of the grub09:16
tiki cant realy go into detail becaue i dont do itmyself09:16
ndevastatorfor those who tried to help u can get ubuntu tweak09:16
ndevastatori just found it09:16
tikbut lok into modding grub via google09:16
ndevastatorit allows u to make new options in that list09:16
poopsmithwhats better for hd porn ubuntu or linux09:16
bazhangpoopsmith, stop that09:16
poopsmithk09:16
ndevastatorubuntu is linux so i suppose both09:16
tikpoopsmith: uhm xfs ;)09:16
tikthats filesystem though09:17
bazhang!guidelines > poopsmith09:17
ubottupoopsmith, please see my private message09:17
yessir_turanubottu: You're boring09:17
poopsmithi just installed my usb on my ubuntus and the memory keeps erroring on the samoflange. how 2 fix?09:19
tik /gnore poopsmith09:19
tik /ignore09:19
tik:P09:19
bazhangpoopsmith, that makes zero sense09:19
poopsmithits a legit question09:19
tikit isnt even English09:19
bazhangpoopsmith, rephrase then09:19
tikusb what09:20
poopsmiththe doohickie on the downflops not working with the kindle i plugged in09:20
mtwone hour later...after installing ubuntu:09:20
guest1poopsmith09:20
guest1http://fungraph.ru/graph/prosmotr-porno-v-operacionnyh-sistemah09:20
mtwhttp://imgur.com/BIESO.jpg09:20
poopsmithguest1, tk09:20
mtwthat went pretty smoothly09:21
Sachomtw: VM?09:21
poopsmithguest1, lol09:21
mtwnah, native09:21
TheEskimomtw: I am impressed. Very pretty09:22
mtw:)09:22
poopsmithstarcraft II on linux f'in boss09:23
poopsmithnice09:23
bazhang!ot > poopsmith09:23
ubottupoopsmith, please see my private message09:23
s4if in ubuntu some program hangs then i have to restart the system is there any way to closee the non responding running program. it really annoys when you try to run mplayer and play a movie and it haangs and no mousse click responds niether the keyboard responds. something like in window i run task manager and close the non responding applicatiooon09:23
ndevastatorok i have found how to manually alter that list09:23
TheEskimos4: run xkill and click on it. If that fails run kill -9 pid09:24
ndevastatorits located at /etc/gnome/defaults.list09:24
guest1poopsmith, http://fungraph.ru/graph/funkcionalnost-os (the graph in the right side is "watching videos")09:24
guest1functionality - Games - Graphics and Video - Crack and Develop - Watching Porn09:24
TheEskimos4: You can run xkill by hitting alt+F2 and then typing xkill. You can find the pid by running ps -Aux | grep -i program name and then using that with kill.09:24
s4theeskimo mouse and keyboard also becomes non responding09:25
bazhangguest1, that is not appropriate for here nor on topic. please stop09:25
s4then what09:25
ndevastatorokay how would i go about finding a files execution line09:25
guest1it s ok09:25
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TheEskimos4: try hitting ctrl+alt+f109:25
bazhangguest1, no its not09:25
ManDaymtw: I see someone likes high-quality unbiased reports...09:25
oddtodhey guys does Gnome have the ability to have differnet wall papers on different windows?09:25
ManDay:p09:25
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ManDayoddtod: i think yes09:25
oddtodor 'spaces'?09:25
TheEskimos4: That should take you into a shell. From there you can start and stop your desktop environment or anything else causing problems09:25
ManDayI recall having seen such an option somewhere oddtod09:25
froudHi, anyone know how to make wvdial auto connect on startup09:25
tikndevastator: eh?09:26
ennuihas anyone had experience with usb-creator? having trouble finding documentation for it. I installed the package from the repos but 'usb-creator' does not seem to be the command09:26
TheEskimofroud: You can add commands to the /etc/init.d/ directory to have them run on startup.09:26
tikpoopsmith: starcraft II on linux?09:26
poopsmithnobody is talking to me on #ubuntu-offtopic feels like highschool all over again09:26
thune3ndevastator: i just found out you can right click on a file icon, select properties, tab "open with" and select add button. Radio button chooses default.09:27
poopsmithtik, yes picture posted abaove09:27
froudTheEskimo: okay going to see09:27
poopsmithtik, mtw posted this http://imgur.com/BIESO.jpg09:28
tikoh09:28
ikoniapoopsmith: try to keep this to ubuntu support discussion please,09:28
ikoniapoopsmith: maybe take the gaming talk/screenshots to #ubuntu-offtopic09:28
sinurgeoddtod: yes possible, http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu09:29
HeTaLpoopsmith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdv1Um243Z8&playnext=1&videos=VdepuaerYeg09:29
ikoniaHeTaL: did you not see what I said about the topic of the channel ?09:29
HeTaLSorry ikonia09:29
HeTaLPosted before I read on.09:29
sometux\009:29
HeTaLWon't happen again.09:29
gq_Hello09:29
ikoniaHeTaL: thanks09:29
* bintut waves.. gtg now.. thanks..09:30
ndevastatorok does anyone know how to add a blank file template ?09:30
poopsmithhetal, gentoos slogan should be09:31
poopsmith"get some"09:31
gq_who come from china!!??09:31
thune3ndevastator: "blank file template" doesn't evoke any meaning for me, could you elaborate.09:32
bazhang!cn | gq_09:32
ubottugq_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:32
Gupennui, 'dpkg-query -L usb-creator' should show you the files the package contains and give you a clue to the command name.09:32
guest1 ndevastator http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/nautilus.html09:32
ndevastatorthune3, when u right click and choose blank file.. theres a greyed out option for a template... how might i add one09:32
Gupennui, assuming the package was called usb-creator09:32
ennuiGup: I found it, it was usb-creator-gtk :/ thanks for helping :)09:33
guest1ndevastator maybe this? http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/gosnautilus-templates-docs.html.en09:34
gabrielehi09:34
jae_yo09:34
CrackGuydoes anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?09:35
gabrielecan I ask something?09:35
baradrianhello09:35
jae_sure09:35
tikbrb09:35
TheEskimo!ask | gabriele09:35
ubottugabriele: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:35
milen8204Hi all, How i can change icons to my starters and where i can find icons ?09:35
gabrieleI have a problem during the boot of Lubuntu09:36
jae_ok09:36
jae_what is that problem?09:36
gabrieleDuring the first boot, I have a crash09:36
ndevastatorguest1, that was it ty09:36
jae_and...09:36
gabrieleif I reboot09:36
TheEskimogabriele: Please put all the details together in one message so we can more easily tell what the problem is09:36
mtwhttp://i.imgur.com/pFHJI.jpg09:36
mtwyeahhhh09:36
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jae_yes please.09:37
oCean_!who | jae_09:37
ubottujae_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:37
oCean_mtw: what is your question?09:37
gabrieleif I reboot LUBUNTU  start normally09:37
mtwnothing at the moment09:37
mtwjust experimenting with linux and shit09:37
gabrielewhat?09:37
oCean_mtw: don't use that language here09:37
oCean_mtw: also, don't use this channel for such postings09:37
jae_>gabriele so first boot crashes but starts okay on reboot09:37
mtwocean09:37
mtwyou aren't an op09:37
mtwso how about you go fuck yourself09:38
gabrieleyes09:38
FloodBot1mtw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:38
KE1HADoes anyone know of the Maverick 10.10 RC's include fixes for the Black Screen issues on Intel 855 boxes ?09:38
mtwsee how that works09:38
bazhangmtw, does not matter stop it09:38
jae_>mtw lol09:38
jae_>gabriele  r u dual booting?09:39
GoguHi, My Lucid Lynx is seriously down. Wireless drivers gone, not able to run liveCD. hw can i repair ? pl help09:39
TheEskimogabriele: Can you give more details? Do you have a log indicating why the crash happened or more info about it?09:39
TheEskimoGogu: how can you not run the live cd?09:40
tikGogu: why can't you run alivecd?09:40
arunkumar413hi,i cant boot ubuntu after installing fedora 1309:40
TheEskimoarunkumar413: That is probably a problem with grub, yes?09:40
tikarunkumar413: edit your grub settings :P idk sorry09:40
GoguTheEskimo, Tik, I can only see the contents of the CD. the autorun is not working09:41
erUSULarunkumar413: if you installed fedora's grub you have to add ubuntu to it. ask in a fedora channel how is the best method09:41
TheEskimogogu: You need to boot from it. Restart your computer and choose it as your boot device09:41
arunkumar413tik: plz help me how to edit the grub settings09:41
Alinonis there a good chan here to go chat in about general hardware discussion?09:42
GoguTHeEskimo i tried that many times thru restarting, it is not booting from CD. but is booting normally09:42
oCean_Alinon: there is ##hardware channel09:42
froudTheEskimo: thank you very much it worked added script with wvdial 2>/tmp/wvdial.messages & and it works a treat but you must update-rc.d wvdial-connect defaults09:42
AlinonoCean: thanks i'll try that09:42
TheEskimoGogu: Go to your boot setup.09:42
TheEskimoGogu: it is an option in the bios09:43
arunkumar413erUSUL: ya,its fedora's grub09:43
TheEskimofroud: Very glad I could be a help. :)09:43
GoguTheEskimo How?  I am beginner09:43
dooglushi guys.  hope you can help me.  this ubuntu 10.04 laptop suddenly started going very slow.  how can I speed it up again?09:43
TheEskimoGogu: When you start up there should be a message saying "Press x for setup" or similar. For example f2, f12, or delete. When you hit that key you will be taken to the bios setup screen. Here you need to find a 'Boot order' option and raise the cd-rom option to above the harddrive one. After that hit f10 to exit and save and try again09:44
gabrieleTheEskimo I haven't a great experience in Linux, I see that during theboot Lubuntu crash,if I try to reboot Linux restart09:44
tikgogu: whn you turn on your computer hit escape usally and go into the oot menu and selete your cd-rom drive09:44
ikonialast popp09:44
ikoniaoops09:44
oddtoddoes anyone notice significant system efficiency when they turn on bridge network adapter for a vbox?09:44
sirwallishello all09:45
TheEskimogabriele: I'm sorry, without a logfile or more information I can't help. I don't know what could be wrong from that.09:45
TheEskimo!hi | sirwallis09:45
ubottusirwallis: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!09:45
gabrieleTheEskimo09:45
GoguTheEskimo I did not get tht prompt. I wil try again. Pl give me few miins09:45
AshDragonfaq: what does LTS stand for?09:45
sirwallisim looking for help09:45
red2kicoddtod: Not really. I noticed my system is efficient when I purged Windows for Ubuntu. :)09:45
gabrieleWhere I can find a log FILE?09:45
tikAshDragon: long tem support09:45
red2kicAshDragon: Long Term Support.09:45
tikterm09:45
AshDragonty (:09:45
ikoniagabriele: a log file for what09:45
TheEskimoGogu: You can try the keys I suggested if you like. It is likely one of the function keys or delete or tab.09:46
sirwalliswith a netbook realtek wifi driver09:46
red2kic!lts | AshDragon :)09:46
ubottuAshDragon :): LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)09:46
gabrielefor more information on the boot problem09:46
dooglushi guys.  hope you can help me.  this ubuntu 10.04 laptop suddenly started going very slow.  how can I speed it up again?09:46
tikTheEskimo: on allthe computers i have worked on its ben escape09:46
AshDragonthanks ^^09:46
TheEskimogogu: Try escape, yes. I forgot to mention that one. Thank you tik :)09:46
oddtodred2kic: yeah still certain apps are needed can't leave the beast completely. everything pales in comparison09:46
gabrieleTheEskimo where I can find alog file09:47
TheEskimotik: I am biased by my experience with gigabyte mobos where it is delete usually09:47
oddtodrad2kic: compared to photoshop that is09:47
tikhehe09:47
tikI fix alot of computers09:47
TheEskimogabriele: /var/logs09:47
GoguTheEskimo It did not work. i tried Escape. Few lines about bios came09:47
TheEskimotik: I defer you your experience09:47
gabrieleand then?09:47
TheEskimoGogu: Can you navigate options there? is there a boot order?09:47
tikhehe09:47
tikim off too ed09:48
tikbed rather09:48
TheEskimogabriele: If you can find the error that would be useful. To be honest I think someone else should help you. I'm not sure I know enough about what's happening with your system to help.09:48
GoguTheEskimo No. it is running grub after that09:48
TheEskimogogu: what computer do you have?09:48
tiknever got my question answered... oh wel09:48
tikbeen fun09:48
sandkinghi09:48
sandkingi launched lxde environment by curiosity and now i login back into to gnome to realize that my file/ app associations are gone (avi, mp3s)09:48
TheEskimoGogu: Do you know the model/etc?09:48
TheEskimotik: what was your question?09:48
GoguTheEskimo Compaq C70009:49
sandkingand when i want to select preffered app i don't see any :/09:49
tikjust a program that does watermarks for videos console or gui09:49
gabrieleTheEskimo I find the file bootstrap.log can it help you?09:49
tikgues ill just install vbox and do it in windows09:49
TheEskimogabriele: I think i'm over my head.09:49
tikGogu: 1 secod09:49
GoguTheEskimo sure09:49
tikI think you might have to see the boot order in bios and have your cd-rom be the first option09:50
TheEskimogogu: try the f1 key09:50
RandyRKellyShould I be on sp3 before loading 10.4?09:50
TheEskimogogu: or the f10 key09:50
GoguTheEskimo will try now09:50
tikRandyRKelly: doesnt matte09:50
tikr09:50
GoguTheEskimo ok09:50
RandyRKellyWell I'm having freezing issues09:50
RandyRKellyMouse r nothing would09:51
TheEskimoGogu: Actually, you can just press both (not just once, contune to press them until the bios setup screen appears or grub appears) and not have to know which it is exactly.09:51
tikdid you burn at a slow speed and check your cd-rom and the md5sum ?09:51
RandyRKellyYes I did09:51
RandyRKellyMaybe bad?09:51
tikmaybe09:52
tikI burnt to a cd-r twice and i was bad each tie I had to use a dvd at slow speeds09:52
tikcause the cdr would freeze up ubuntu and cause crashes09:52
tikI dropped into console and sw I/O errors09:52
TheEskimoRandyRKelly: You can usually verify after burning09:52
tiksaw09:52
tikyeah09:52
RandyRKellyMmmmm well I don't have any DVD disk09:53
tikI did afterwards and it had 1 rror09:53
tikjust makesure you burn at the slow speed pos.09:53
RandyRKellyHow I.verify09:53
tikuhm09:53
tikwhen it boots up hit f6 i think it was09:53
tikand then choose verify cd09:53
RandyRKellyOk09:53
TheEskimoRandyRKelly: It depends what program. It is an option some programs have. Also, you can test the cd on boot through the interface instead of install09:53
RandyRKellyCook09:54
mExIoUshi all, linux n00b here, i have built an ubuntu 10.0 server and recently added some packages and since then i keep getting this message as it hangs at startup "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" can somone please help to fix?09:54
RandyRKellyOook09:54
st__hi is 10.04.1 out yet?09:54
GoguTheEskimo I got into BIOS set up. I found booting with CD-Rom is already enabled and listed first. Then grub ran.09:54
tikdon't think so09:54
tikI am not updating until 10.10 ayway :P09:54
Rosbuntuhey my ubuntu 10.04 goes black sometimes and never come back untill i restart by pressing the CPU reset Button.. how to solve this problem tell me09:55
TheEskimoGogu: That is interesting. You are sure it was above booting with harddrive?09:55
tikGogu: if you have 2 cd-rom drives make sure its in the op one09:55
tiktop09:55
TheEskimoGogu: yes. If you have more than 1 cd rom drive to try it in the other one09:55
GoguTheEskimo I only have one CD driive09:55
tikhmm09:56
tikand you can't get into "boot menu" ?09:56
tikbut you can get into bios?09:56
abhijithello!!! Its raining here!!! Mansoon! :D09:56
TheEskimogogu: you should go to boot > boot device prioriety > . What does it show?09:57
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GoguTheEskimo wil try again to see09:57
TheEskimoThank you gogu: Also, you are certian it is a bootable ubuntu disk?09:58
tikGogu: If your Presario is like mine F10 right after you turn on the computer will start in the BIOS screen. You then use the arrow key to move from Main to Boot. You then use the arrow key to select the CD drive then you use the + key to move the CD drive to the top of the list. F10 will then save your changes to the BIOS it will then Boot from the CD drive09:59
TheEskimotik: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=bph07110&product=3466273&printable=yes#N189809:59
blinki have a broken package error. what can i do?09:59
TheEskimotik: that is for his computer I believe09:59
tikso is what I just posted09:59
tik:P09:59
TheEskimotik: you are correct of course.10:00
GoguTheEskimo Tik, I find USB Floppy is on top followed by CD drive in the Boot ORder list.10:00
tikTheEskimo: i like you.10:00
tikGogu: put cd drive irst10:00
TheEskimogogu: for our peace of mind can you raise cd to the top?10:00
tikhaha10:00
mExIoUswandering if somone could please help i am getting this error "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" and the system hangs at boot. am running ubuntu server 10.010:01
tikmExIoUs: whatdid you install?10:01
GoguTheEskimo Tik, I did10:01
TheEskimogogu: you hit f10 and saved?10:01
tikdoes it boot from livecd now?10:01
mExIoUsinstalled mythtv backend was the most recent10:01
GoguTheEskimo yes10:01
mExIoUsit has been working fine, just today decided to do this to me10:02
tikremove it and reboot and see if it helps10:02
TheEskimoGogu: Now if it does not boot from the live cd we must bring into question the cd. Does it boot from it?10:02
GoguTheEskimo it is not booting from CD10:02
tikhmmm10:03
TheEskimoGogu: do you have another computer you can test the disk on to make sure it can boot? I suspect it is faulty10:03
TheEskimoBetter yet, have you used it before and how long ago?10:03
mExIoUstik: how do i remove it i cant even get it to boot, it just hangs with that error10:03
nickjohnsonCan anyone suggest why ivman might've stopped detecting when I insert a DVD after I upgraded to 10.4?10:04
GoguTheEskimo Will try and get back10:04
TheEskimomExIoUs: You should be able to use the recovery option in grub, yes?10:04
TheEskimoGogu: okay. Best of luck.10:04
mExIoUsi can boot from the cd and access recovery10:04
nickjohnsonOr how I can debug hal events?10:05
mExIoUsthe other recent thing i did was configure eth0 from webmin for static ip rather than dhcp as it has been using10:06
tikTheEskimo: you really hav your work cut out for you in here :P10:06
erUSUL!webmin10:06
tikmExIoUs: that might be the problem10:06
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.10:06
TheEskimotik: back. was afk for a sec10:06
tikTheEskimo: didn't notice10:07
mExIoUsaahha ok, so is there some way i can get the system too boot lol and fix the problem that has been caused10:07
ManDayWhere do I put commands which are supposed to be executed right after the booting has finished?!10:07
ManDayin /etc/init/ ?10:07
tikum10:07
tikyou add a script to init/d yes10:08
TheEskimoManDay /etc/init.d/10:08
tikinit.d10:08
rav014is it possible to change the login screen?10:08
TheEskimorav014: Yes10:08
ManDaybut that would be SystemV init not the new grandiose upstrart, eh?10:08
ManDayand then id also have to supply a complete script, eh?10:08
tikManDay: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/10:08
mExIoUsok, so boot from the install cd and access recovery and then edit init.d10:08
ManDaytik: I DONT want to add a startup script - just a SINGLE command10:09
ManDayno daemon10:09
tiki know10:09
ManDaynothing like that, a SIMPLE PLAIN command10:09
llutzManDay: /etc/rc.local10:09
tik#1/bin/bash10:09
tik#!10:09
tiksudo ls10:09
TheEskimomExIoUs: /etc/init.d/networking might need to be edited to fix it10:09
tikthats al a script is10:09
ManDayllutz: fair enough10:09
erUSULManDay: /etc/rc.local just before the "exit 0" line10:09
mExIoUsthanks tik10:09
ManDayerUSUL: equally fair10:09
ManDaythanks10:09
llutzManDay: should work with upstart too10:09
tikeither way.. meg :)10:10
tikmeh10:10
ManDaycan someone tell me what all the rc....d things are? I think this was all SystemV ?!ß10:10
ManDaywhy is it in ubuntu?10:10
ManDaytik thanks :P10:10
tiknp10:10
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ncurseshey guys... im a noob on this irc thing and of course on ubuntu...i do have a question... what do you guys recommend on using firewall on ubuntu? im currently using firestarter but i want a little more versatile and of functionsmuch more like i do have control on everything and lot10:11
ncursesof functions...10:11
Kwpolskancurses: do not use firewall.10:11
TheEskimoncurses: You can use many things. iptables if needed. But you don't raelly need one usually10:12
ncurses@Kwpolska why?10:12
ncursesbecause ubuntu is safe when used on internet?10:12
llutzncurses: just make sure that no unwanted services are running and the needed things are well configured and kept actual10:13
Kwpolskancurses: on irc we do use Kwpolska: rather than @Kwpolska.10:13
Kwpolska@ is reserved for ops, but not used when hilighting someone.10:14
ncurses@TheEskimo sorry im not used on iptables... i was using freebsd on most servers. but whoa... i love ubuntu on my laptop...10:14
TheEskimoncurses: It is a good tool to get used to. Good luck!10:14
red2kicKwpolska: Sometimes people use @Kwpolska (as... to Kwpolska or at Kwpolska)10:14
poopsmithboobs10:14
ncurses=)10:15
Kwpolskared2kic: But this shall not be used. Just sounds bad with @ at non-ops.10:15
red2kicKwpolska: It all depends on how the newcomers see the client.10:15
ncursesoopps sorry for the @... =)10:15
red2kicncurses: You can use tabs. Try type "red2" then press tab.10:16
ncursesim using xchat10:16
ManDayCan anyone tell me what rcS.d is and why we have 6 rc.d directories although ubuntu doesnt know runlevels?!10:16
ncursesthanks for that... i guess im really a newbie on these irc client thing10:16
ncurses:)10:17
ManDayncurses: you only need to know one thing about irc10:17
RandyRKellyWere can I get 9.1010:17
ManDayits is evil10:17
icerootManDay: for compatibility, rcS.d is holding the (S)tart scripts10:17
ncursesManDay, lol10:17
ManDayhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=download+ubuntu+9.10&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-810:17
ManDay@ RandyRKelly10:17
RandyRKellyThank10:17
ManDayyw10:18
ManDayiceroot: what compatibility?10:18
icerootManDay: to packages like apache and so on10:18
ManDayfor packages which are not packed for ubuntu or what? iceroot10:18
icerootManDay: so you dont have to patch all packages because the go into different run-level-directorys10:18
ManDayhm10:18
ManDayand natively rcS.d is executed for every Runlevel?10:19
icerootManDay: also its part of LSB10:19
ManDayas if ubuntu cared10:19
icerootManDay: you want to flame?10:19
ManDayno just kidding10:19
ManDaysorry10:19
rav014man i cant change the login screen10:20
rav014ive downloaded lots of login screen10:21
rav014but still i cant10:21
oCean_rav014: see here http://somedom.com/?p=2110:21
TheEskimorav014: There are many tutorials on ubuntuforums too if you would like to look there.10:21
cjaefsck: fsck.ntfs: not found    fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdh110:23
cjaentfs progs?10:23
rav014oCean: TheEskimo: thanks10:23
ngirardHi all. How can I switch from openjdk java to Sun java ?10:24
ngirard(both are already installed)10:24
ke_大家好10:24
oCean_!cn | ke_10:25
ubottuke_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:25
ncurseshey guys one more noob question from me... i am used on freebsd make install clean cmd when installing packages on cmd line. my problems is does ubuntu automatically fetch and shows me what to install?it's just that if i want to install, for example apache w/ ssl, etc on ubuntu or any linux i need to know the exact addon's so that i can install it??? am i missing something? by the way, im talking about using the server install. well if theres GUI i know10:25
ncursesits not that hard.10:25
llutzngirard: sudo update-alternatives10:25
ke_i am sorry10:25
Rosbuntuhey i hav installed vlc player and emesene in my ubuntu where can i get those installer files in ubuntu becoz i wanna copy then for the next install..10:25
tomaszjest ktoś z Polski10:25
oCean_!pl | tomasz10:25
ubottutomasz: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.10:25
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ke_pgoodbye10:26
ngirardllutz: oh yeah, that's right, thanks10:26
tomaszdzięki10:26
RandyRKellyOk which version install I need for my alienware laptop. I want 9.1010:26
erUSULncurses: use aptitude curses gui. or the various commands for searching showing package info10:26
guest1rosbuntu maybe it's better to have /home folder on a separate partition to save the preferences for the next install10:27
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: why not 10.04?10:27
Rosbuntuguest1 actually i install them by terminal .. so can i have those installer file in my pc?10:27
ncurseserUSUL, thanks ill try that... =)10:27
RandyRKellyHaving issues with it right now jaso10:27
erUSUL!info apache210:28
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.14-5ubuntu8 (lucid), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB10:28
guest1rosubuntu deb?10:28
ibrahimI have hp - dv6 1045ee I need a modem driver for this laptop, ubutnu 10.0410:28
RandyRKellyIll go back to it jasonwryan10:28
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: I'd always stick with the current release, unless it was _really_ broken for you...10:28
RandyRKellyIt iis 910 was great10:29
guest1rosubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11826410:29
cjaeso fsck /dev/sdh1  and fsck.ntfs not found10:29
RandyRKellyJust a bug but may be a bad dl jasonwryan10:29
iceman_3233Synaptic Vuze 4.3. Any way to add it to source? Running 10.10  2.6.35-12-generic.10:29
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: what sort of issues?10:30
iceman_3233To 4.4?10:30
erUSULcjae: install ntfsprogs but ... to check a ntfs partition is better to use the windows tools10:30
RandyRKellyWhich version u think I need for my alien jasonwryan10:30
guest1rosubuntu RUSubuntu?10:30
RandyRKellyIt freezes after a few and want install drivers r nothin10:30
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: Like I said, I'd go with 10.04...10:30
cjaeerUSUL: says its installed10:30
ibrahimI am having problems with 10.0410:30
cjaeerUSUL: no product key10:31
ibrahimI am having problems with 10.04 random freezing !! a lot of it10:31
RandyRKellyI'm on 10:4 but can't use ill downgrade and re upgrade10:31
gafoorgkcan anyone help me setting up a live audio streaming server10:32
erUSULcjae: ntfsprogs has ntfsfix is the closest thing to a fsck linux have afaik10:32
ncursesgafoorgk, theres a sorftware for it10:33
ncursesyou just need to install LAMP first and install the addon software10:34
RandyRKellyjasonwryan: what u think10:34
cjaeerUSUL: hmmm, kde partition manager has a check that seems to be working, wonder why fsck will not load10:34
ncursestry jinxora10:35
ncursesjinzora*10:35
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: you need to say what the problem is... otherwise I am just guessing10:35
RandyRKellyI.did day already10:35
leenuksi have an issue. a couple of weeks ago i tried burning a multi-session dvd+r by dragging files on top of it, selecting "burn", and checking the multi-session box in the properties menu. now i'm looking and "properties" doesn't have that option anymore. any clue why?10:36
ncursesleenuks, try launching the application using the cmd line10:36
ncursesand using su -10:36
RandyRKellyMy issue is I can't install my driver for widow modem. Will freeze. After five min. Acanthus use key oars r mouse10:37
RandyRKellyCan't10:37
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: as far as I can see, you said you can't use it - not _why_ you can't...10:37
leenuksncurses, i didn't use any app.10:37
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Migi32hey everyone. I didn't know what channel to ask, but does anyone know software to print labels (you know, with barcodes etc) on pre-cut 50-labels-on-1-page paper?10:37
chrislabeardHey guys are there any good guides to install phpmyadmin?10:38
RandyRKellyYeah it freezes and can't go online10:38
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: OK: you can't install a driver for a windows modem?10:38
ncursesleenuks, just a cmdline? well try10:38
ibrahimchrislabeard: What os Are you using ?10:38
RandyRKellyI'm new to this10:38
ncursesto change previliege10:38
chrislabeardLinux10:38
RandyRKellyNo like I said freezes10:38
Kwpolskachrislabeard: use the package named phpmyadmin10:38
oCean_chrislabeard: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin should be enough (if you did the LAMP packages already)10:39
Kwpolskaibrahim: this is #ubuntu, so...10:39
guestchrislabeard search youtube video10:39
RandyRKellySo I wanna downgrade to what I know works10:39
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: why do you need a windows modem?10:39
tikoCean_: nah it installs to /etc10:39
RandyRKellyThen upgrade10:39
chrislabeardalright10:39
tikyou have to move it to /var/www10:39
ibrahimchrislabeard: from synaptic package manager choose phpmyadmin mark and install10:39
ncursesibrahim, =) ubuntu...10:39
oCean_tik: "have to" ?10:39
RandyRKellyI have a microsoft wireless card10:39
tikhow else can you access it10:39
tikI cp'd it myself10:40
oCean_tik: don't talk nonsense10:40
tikhaha10:40
jasonwryanRandyRKelly: I'm sorry to hear that :)10:40
tikpcean: you will see10:40
RandyRKellyI'm using droid ass wifi source10:40
RandyRKellySo I think my disk has a error10:40
tikRandyRKelly: did you reboot and check it?10:40
tikot usually says how many errors10:41
RandyRKellyHow can I install via usb ?10:41
tikthere is no questin10:41
tikok10:41
tiksimple10:41
FloodBot1tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:41
RandyRKellyWell I'm pdating the windows side right now10:41
RandyRKellyDo I need the disk in10:41
ibrahimncurses: yes I am using ubutnu10:41
tikdownload the iso and use usb creator or whaever it is to create a bootable USB dive :)10:41
RandyRKellyTik10:41
tikfrom the livcd10:41
ncursesibrahim, great10:41
tikoh10:42
bareegomaybe slightly offtopic, does anyone know if mplayer packages for older versions have been updated with x264 support ?10:42
Rosbuntui am using ubuntu and going back to windows10:42
RosbuntuLoL becoz i have some problem in ubuntu10:42
Rosbuntu:(10:42
tikhmmm10:42
oCean_tik: stop hitting enter all the time, try to form complete sentences10:42
tiksorry habit10:42
ncursesRandyRKelly, try to use unetbootin10:42
RandyRKellyWho ever uses fredaro?10:42
RandyRKelly? Ncurse10:43
tikRandy: best bet if to boot off the liveCD and use usb startup creator10:43
RandyRKellyOk10:43
tikafter dl'ing the iso10:43
RandyRKellyOnce the window side finish10:43
guestrosubuntu: you will return -- believe it10:43
ncursesif you use usb to boot any linux try unetbootin10:43
ibrahimncurses: are you using the new lucid ? 10.04 ?10:43
tikncurses: ubuntu makes a progr just for that purpose10:44
yarivCan any one explain to me why 10.04 is slow sluggish lately with all the updates?10:44
tik"startup disk creator" under sytem admin.10:44
ibrahimyariv: the update manager is causing many problems !!10:44
ncursesibrahim, nope the 9.10 but im currently upgrading to 10.xx and gives me a hell of time downloading it...10:44
oCean_ibrahim: what?10:44
clint-dang10:45
ibrahimncurses: I am having many problems with it.10:45
oCean_yariv: I run 10.04, latest updates. Still as snappy as it ever was10:45
clint-1395! :P10:45
oCean_clint-: is that a question?10:45
yarivyeah, it caused my system to become unstable and freeze for a couple of seconds every few minutes10:45
ibrahimoCean_: the update manager in 10.04 is causing problems failed always.10:45
ncursestik, ooops as i said im a noob on ubuntu... =)10:45
camillebj10:45
ibrahimyariv: yes me too.10:45
oCean_ibrahim: generally no problems, so don't tell nonsense in the channel10:46
ibrahimoCean_: okay,, I want to solve my problems :(10:46
ncursesibrahim, what system are you using? probably its not supported? lol10:46
daniel_treeflash quality is not really good..even in HD...(watching youtube) ..and the sound misses something...I mean..they work...are satisfying..but there is something missing..I know my machine can do better...dono if it's a problem..or this is just the way it is..on opensuse I had better audio quality..and video too...maybe I didnt setup right...any ideas ???10:47
ncursesi mean some...10:47
ibrahimncurses: I am using 10.04 Lucid Lynx,, gave up windows a year ago10:47
hasenjI was experimenting with a bunch of window managers10:47
hasenjand one of them caused me to lose my systray icons10:47
hasenjany way to restore that?10:47
hasenjwithout logging out?10:47
mExIoUsok well had a break now i am back to it, have managed to boot a recovery console so i can edit stuff. what should be the next step? still getting this error networking main process (631) terminated with status 110:47
clint-later all! have an awesome weekend!10:48
ncursesoh i see... so its wokring fine on 9.10 but sluggish on 10.xx?10:48
trijntjeHi all, is there a way to make a backup of all my hotmail-emails without sending them to another acount? Just put te emails in some sort of archive on my pc?10:48
tikhasenj: yes but I don't kow the command to display10:48
tikmaybe ocean migt10:48
* clint- is going to sleep like a geeko10:48
tikmight*10:48
RandyRKellyGonna make another disk10:49
ibrahimncurses: 9.10 Karmic was great with me, but now I am having some problems and still trying to solve because I will not be using windows anymore10:49
Migi32hey does anyone know open source software to print labels (with barcodes) on paper?10:49
tikill scrollz up and see ifI can find it 1 sec10:49
daniel_treetrijntje, use evolution or thunderbird...and save them to an archive10:49
ibrahimncurses: some problems after upgrading to 10.410:49
xsaiddxhello guys jst got fesh install of lubuntu but i dont have the the lubuntu repo10:49
xsaiddxcan someone link me to some wiki to do it10:49
tikno, to much scroll10:50
hasenjinteresting, all I had to do was add the systray to the panel! (xfce)10:50
ibrahimxsaiddx: what is ubuntu repo ?10:50
ncursesibrahim, have you tried looking for event logs? or even dmsg?10:50
trijntjedaniel_tree, isnt it impossible to connect to a hotmail account without using the web interface?10:50
ibrahimncurses: No !10:50
tikyes, they enabled POP310:50
oCean_Migi32: there is glabels and kbarcode in the repositories (never used either of them, though)10:50
tiker trijntje10:51
daniel_treetrijntje, it is ....use mozilla thunderbird...to manage your emails10:51
ibrahimncurses:  how to do this ?10:51
xsaiddxibrahim, salam i have main resticted ,partner,main10:51
xsaiddxbut not the launpad/lubuntu one10:51
Migi32ok thanks oCean_ I'll check em out10:51
daniel_treetrijntje, for hotmail the pop3 is "pop3.live.com" and the smtp is "smtp.live.com"10:51
ibrahimxsaiddx: Ah okay sorry I can't help.10:51
CppIsWeirdevery time i go to a new webpage, i get about a 30 second lag. any time i go to that page afterwards, everything is instant. i've changed my dns servers to three different servers (isp, 4.4.4.4, and opendns) all with the same result.10:52
CppIsWeirdi should say domain instead of webpage10:52
trijntjedaniel_tree, tik, thanks a lot, I alway thought that was impossible!10:52
xsaiddxibrahim, its ok shokran : )10:52
ibrahimoCean_: can you help with nvidia drivers please ?10:52
ncursesibrahim, try digging for /var/logs and issue dmesg on the prompt10:52
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daniel_treetrijntje, with yahoo you have to have yahoo plus to do that...but for hotmail..works :)10:53
oCean_ibrahim: If I could, I would. I have no experience in using nvidia hardware whatsoever10:53
trijntjeCppIsWeird, maybe its ipv6 related? That solved a similar problem for me with firefox10:53
ncursesCppIsWeird, your internet connection is your problem10:53
ibrahimoCean_: it's okay thnx anyway , this is the issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153284710:53
ncursesBRB guys...10:54
ibrahimncurses: what should I do with all this information ?10:54
mExIoUscan anyone help please wtih this error "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" system just halts after boot with this error kinda lost >.<10:54
daniel_treecan anyone help me improve the video quality ?10:55
oCean_ibrahim: what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current output?10:56
ibrahimoCean_: dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current ..... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root10:56
oCean_ibrahim: start with sudo10:56
ibrahimoCean_: sorry i dont know what does it mean.10:56
ibrahimoCean_: ah okay10:57
oCean_ibrahim: start the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ...'10:57
ibrahimoCean_: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nvidia-current is broken or not fully installed10:58
chrislabeardWhen setting permissions on a directory who does it need to be owned by for the server to write to it?10:58
oCean_ibrahim: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"10:59
ibrahimoCean_: i have to use them serperated right ? first :  "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current" and second "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"11:00
oCean_chrislabeard: should be owned by the user running that specific process. (for example apache webserver runs user www-data)11:00
oCean_ibrahim: no, it's one single command11:00
oCean_ibrahim: but you *coud* separate them, up to you11:01
oCean_could11:01
chrislabeardoCean_: The directory says its owned by my admin user name "beard' but it still won't allow the server to write to it when trying to install11:01
oCean_chrislabeard: what install are we talking about?11:01
chrislabeardoCean_: Well its wordpress11:02
ibrahimoCean_: after using them serperated i got this for the first one now i using both at the same time E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:02
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oCean_chrislabeard: wp is installed through webserver, so the directory where you want to install wp (e.g. /var/www/wordpress) should be owned by www-data, since apache runs under that user11:02
chrislabeardAlright11:03
chrislabeardWhat group would that be11:03
oCean_ibrahim: nvm, then the combined commands won't work either11:03
oCean_chrislabeard: same11:03
ibrahimoCean_: the same result after using both ! still getting the error message yes11:03
oCean_ibrahim: is that single line all of the error message, or is there more? If it is multiple lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com11:04
ibrahimoCean_: done . please visit http://paste.ubuntu.com/471421/11:05
chrislabeardoCean_: is this wrong ? - chown -R www-data wwmcd11:07
chrislabeardIt keeps saying --- chown: www-data: Invalid argument11:07
NeverCastchrislabeard, what are you trying to do?11:08
chrislabeardNeverCast: I'm trying to use this for a test server so I need to be able to upload directories and allow my server to write to them.11:08
oCean_chrislabeard: should be ok if wwmcd is your wp directory, I would do: "chown -R www-data:www-data wpdir/"11:08
NeverCastchrislabeard, try chown -R www-data; chown -R wwmcd11:08
NeverCastoCean_, wait what? educate me?11:09
NeverCastOh wait11:09
NeverCastnever mind11:09
NeverCastlol.11:09
NeverCastworked it otu11:09
FloodBot1NeverCast: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:09
tyler82hi11:09
tikhi11:09
tyler82i need some help11:09
tyler82i am beginner in ubuntu 10.0411:09
oracle_?11:09
chrislabeardKeeps telling me invalid argument11:09
oracle_ok,go on11:09
oCean_ibrahim: problem is in the "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error" line. And I really don't know how to get rid of that11:10
oCean_oracle_: what is your question?11:10
tyler82i have installed weather forecast program form synaptic11:10
chrislabeardoCean_ can I not go and change the username for the apache user?11:10
tyler82but i don't know how need to run?11:10
phong_Help me, my sound doesn't work11:10
phong_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154194311:10
tiksudo chown -R www-data:www-data wwmcd11:11
aa__hello everyone11:11
chrislabeardStill not working11:11
oracle_hello11:11
chrislabeardinvalid argument11:11
oCean_chrislabeard: better not. There is a apache module which will let you run various vhosts under various users, that's a bit complicated. After the chown as I showed, it should work.11:11
aa__im having awfull issues dual booting ubuntu and windows (any version) could anyone help me out?11:11
tikwhat user need read and write access?11:11
oCean_chrislabeard: what does "lsb_release -a" output?11:11
Xonnie316hey everyone11:11
Shine-nekoHabou :p11:11
Xonnie316nice to find a Ubuntu chat room11:11
ibrahimoCean_: thank you anyway :) i will see what i can do11:12
erUSULaa__: if you do not describe that "awfull issues" you wont get any help11:12
Shine-nekoDites comment on fait pour reparer une patition corrompu en ext311:12
erUSUL!ask | aa__11:12
oCean_Xonnie316: this is technical support only. Social chat in #ubuntu-offtopic11:12
ubottuaa__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:12
tikXonnie316: not much cheat here.. mostly questions11:12
tikchat11:12
erUSUL!fr | Shine-neko11:12
ubottuShine-neko: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:12
aa__mmmm noone?11:12
Xonnie316I've got 2 issues I wish I can get help please11:12
erUSUL!ask | Xonnie31611:12
ubottuXonnie316: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:12
oCean_ibrahim: ok. That line that I showed you is your issue, so you should search for a solution for that.. (just a hint)11:12
ibrahimoCean_: can that link describe my problem ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/471421/11:13
chrislabeardoCean_: Just a second11:13
Xonnie316Hey guys,11:13
Xonnie316I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my Samsung LCD TV.11:13
Xonnie316I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound11:13
Xonnie316I've changed it to every sound device:11:13
Xonnie316Analog Stereo Input11:13
FloodBot1Xonnie316: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:13
guestaa_ ?11:13
aa__i'm having problems dual booting ubuntu 10.04 with any version of windows11:13
oCean_ibrahim: yes, you can update your forumpost by referring to this pastebin output11:13
guestaa_ what kind of problems?11:14
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aa__i'm unable to mount myntfs partition11:15
tikaa: which did you install first? :)11:15
aa__windows then ubuntu11:15
Xonnie316Hey guys, I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my SAMSUNG LCD TV. I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound, then I've chosen each and every option. It still won't come up with any audio.11:15
Xonnie316Any suggestions please?11:15
aa__i can't say for sure what the problem is11:15
aa__since after intrepid ibex i stopped dual booting lol11:15
tikaa:sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdsomething /mount11:15
aa__only ubuntu so i really can't say11:15
aa__yes that works11:15
aa__i try either that or ntfs-config11:15
tyler82how can i run widget plasma forecast program in ubuntu?11:15
aa__but after that if i try to boot my vista partition11:16
aa__it just won't boot11:16
aa__it will go to vista loading11:16
tyler82i've installed form symbian11:16
aa__and restart11:16
FloodBot1aa__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:16
tiktry installingwindows first11:16
tikidk couln' say11:16
oCean_chrislabeard: I asked because "invalid argument" is not a chown error msg from ubuntu. It would say "no such user"11:16
aa__i did install windows first11:16
gafoorgkanyone can help me with setting up a live audio streaming linux server ?!11:16
chrislabeardoCean_: Yeah I lied I'm not in ubuntu11:16
tikyeah but you overwrote with the boot loader\11:16
aa__uh?11:17
oCean_chrislabeard: I figured as much. Good luck11:17
chrislabeardthanks anyways11:17
tikwhen you installed ubuntu11:17
Xonnie316Hey guys, I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my SAMSUNG LCD TV. I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound, then I've chosen each and every option. It still won't come up with any audio.11:17
aa__to be honest i let the installer do everything, i tried like hundreds of times now lol both with desktop and alternate install11:17
aa__so it would kinda work11:17
tikgoogle for untu +dual booting +windows11:18
aa__tried but yet nothing seems to fix my issue11:18
tikubuntu11:18
oCean_tik: don't tell people to go google11:18
aa__rofl11:18
tikim not googling fo him11:18
aa__thats lovely11:18
aa__but google wouldn't help me i been googling since lucid came out11:18
oCean_tik: in that case don't start offering help?11:19
aa__is anyone else able to help me out?11:19
oCean_aa__: you're very welcome to ask your quesions here. There are not always answers readily available. Just have some patience and try again later.11:19
aa__of course im not rushing11:19
Xonnie316are you guys busy at the moment ?11:20
TheBlophello im trying to install ubuntu for the first time "currently running livecd" but the HD i wanna install to is missing during the installation process it is how ever shown under "places" any idea what to do?11:21
oCean_Xonnie316: it's all volunteers here, so we cannot really tell if anyone is available with knowledge of your issue..11:21
Xonnie316Totally understand11:22
Xonnie316I've got another issue at the moment11:22
guestTheBlop because of win programs like Partition Magic11:23
yessir_turanHi, I'm on ubunutu 10.04lts.11:23
yessir_turanCan someone please tell me how to access exchange 2007 using evolution>11:23
Guest20036 /join #blarg11:23
Xonnie316I have an Asus ION mini pc, in which I use as an HTPC running XBMC. Its connected to my Samsung LCD TV. And basically since I've installed Ubuntu the past 2 weeks, the screen resolution for some reason isn't right.. Its 2 inches out of the picture on each side… I've went into System -> Administration -> nVidia X Server Settings. But for some reason it would still stay out of the screen… I've also went to System -> Administration11:23
Xonnie316 -> Hardware Drivers, in which I've uninstalled and re-installed the nVidia Driver. But it would still stay the same…. I've also noticed before Ubuntu loads up it takes a long time to bring up the desktop and it shows an error "nforce2_smbus 0000:00:03.2: error probing SMB1"11:23
tikdid  you run the nvidia conigure app, Xonnie31611:24
tikoh yes11:24
Xonnie316tik: I don't think so...11:25
Xonnie316tik: Do you mean going through Terminal ?11:25
tikno11:25
TheBlopnut running windows on any drives :) and i found the solution apparently the dmraid packages is messing with 10.04 to see all my drives :)11:25
tikyou covered it in your post11:25
tiknvidia x server settings11:25
Xonnie316yeah i've went through there but not quite sure if I have to do any modifications11:26
Xonnie316tik: because I only changed screen resolutions basically11:26
guestTheBlop: when I was making partitions with Acronis then Live CD didn't see HD so I turned everything back with Acronis and made everything with Live CD Gparted11:27
SingoXonnie316: Changed the resolution to 1080p?11:27
Xonnie316Singo: I'll give it a shot lets see11:27
Singo1920x108011:27
abhijithellp11:28
abhijithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154239111:28
SingoXonnie316: Make the position Absolute also11:28
TheBlopguest1 thanks for the tip, i am going to get started on my installation now! bye11:28
Xonnie316Singo: it is on 1920 x 1080 ........11:28
Xonnie316thats how it is at the moment11:28
Xonnie316and its still having an 2 inches on each side which is not visible11:28
SingoSetting with the TV maybe? (though I'm sure you've checked that)11:29
Xonnie316The TV automatically picks it up and adjusts it to 1920 x 1080 ...11:29
SingoAs does mine11:30
Xonnie316Its strange coz previously I had windows xp and it automatically picks up the screen resolution, and adjusts fine11:30
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Xonnie316then i partitioned and made ubuntu, and its not exactly the whole screen11:30
dark_neoIs there anyone here who could help me enable remote desktop via terminal?11:30
SingoSorry Xonnie316... I'm not sure then :-/11:31
tiknever had any experiance with it sorry11:31
raidelwhat is the best screen recorder for xubuntu 10.411:31
Xonnie316I know mate its a tricky one ....11:32
raidelscreen cast for xubuntu 10.04 please help meee11:33
jasonwryanraidel: recordmydesktop11:34
raidelit dont work11:34
bazhang!work | raidel11:35
ubotturaidel: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:35
Singo^^ lol11:35
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no_thanksWould you guys be able to help me solve my little problem11:36
raidellike when you try to record and uploud it you youtube it look crap11:36
castno_thanks is from the bottom of the world11:37
no_thanksI've just installed Ubuntu but whenever I load it and log in the login screen disapears but nothing loads and I'm left looking at a background11:37
bazhang!screencast | raidel try some others11:37
ubotturaidel try some others: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.11:37
no_thanksGood old New Zealand!11:37
castor the top, depending on your astralplane11:37
Xonnie316Hi guys I've got another questions, I've got 1 hard drive which is partitioned. 1/2 is windows xp and the other half Ubuntu. Now each time I try boot up it picks up Ubuntu first, is there a way I could change it back to Windows XP ??11:37
no_thankshow did you know that O.o?11:37
raideltanks for your help11:37
castXonnie316: sure, edit your grub config to change the default11:37
no_thanksit's weird because I can ctrl alt del and bring up the menu but nothing else is on the screen it's as if the dekstop never loaded11:39
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Xonnie316cast: How do I do that exactly ?11:39
Xonnie316cast: could you please guide me?11:39
raidelthanks stanbul work11:39
castXonnie316: i could, but i have funner things to do. you open grubs config file in a text editor and change the 'default' line11:40
LekensteynHi11:40
Xonnie316Thanks cast, I'll just google it and have save you time for some funner things to do ....11:41
LekensteynCan someone help me with bash?11:41
ibrahimubottu: can you help me regarding this issue please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153284711:41
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:41
LekensteynI just want to put './somename*.txt' into a variable11:42
Lekensteynbut it expands to all files in the folder11:42
tikibrahim: ill look11:42
tikin console tye sud apt-get remove vidia-current --purge && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current11:43
tiker11:43
tiktypod11:43
ibrahimubottu: thnx in advance11:43
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:43
tikin console tye sud apt-get remove nvidia-current --purge && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current11:43
tiksudo*11:44
ibrahimtik: thank you.11:44
ibrahimtik: ok11:44
tikthen reboot ;11:44
tik;)11:44
Lekensteyntik11:44
Lekensteyncould you help me? :)11:44
LekensteynI just want to put './name*.txt' in a bash variable, but it expands to all files matching ./name*.txt in the folder11:45
tikwhats ./*.txt11:45
tik~/.name*.txt ?11:45
LekensteynI've some files in a file, named like dump-1-2.txt11:45
tikooo11:45
Lekensteyni might change that to something like name-1-2-date.txt11:46
Lekensteynso for flexibility11:46
LekensteynI've put that into a variable11:46
Lekensteynit's used for sed11:46
ibrahimtik:  did not work :( this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/471430/11:46
Lekensteynlike sed 's/replace/by/g' -i $FILES11:46
cerriehello all ... does anyone know of a way to use the iPhone as a webcam on Ubuntu? It can be done on windows but requires drivers only available on windows :O(11:46
tikwhy not just do it in GUI with hardwre?11:47
fml-ishcan anyone help me?11:47
bareego!ask | fml-ish11:47
ubottufml-ish: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:47
tikSystem / Administration / Hardware Drivers11:47
fml-ishops sorry11:47
fml-ishi am trying to dual boot windows xp with ubuntu (any) lucid lynx but apparently i can't access my xp partition nor it will start, with fedora it worked just fine but now i can't use it11:48
alex_hi11:48
cerrieAlso if anyone knows of a better suited channel for my questions please say :O)11:49
ibrahimbareego: can you help me regarding this issue please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153284711:49
alex_i cant get evolution working with hotmail11:49
tikfml-ish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot11:49
cipherssonCerrie did you try wine?11:50
fml-ishtik: thank you i'll give it a look11:50
tikbrahim@ibrahim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-curren typod11:50
Lekensteynalex, what error are you getting?11:50
tiktry brahim@ibrahim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current11:50
cerrie<ciphersson> no i did not.. but not a bad idea ! many thanks11:50
cipherssonworth a shit11:50
alex_it says it cant connect to the servers11:50
cipherssonooops11:50
cipherssonshot*11:50
FloodBot1ciphersson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:51
cipherssonlol11:51
alex_i've tried everything11:51
fml-ishtik: my problem is not listed in there apparently, any other way?11:51
LekensteynWhat server have you entered?11:51
alex_pop3.live.com11:51
tikfml-ish: what does hardware update tell you?11:52
tiker11:52
tikhardware drivers11:52
ibrahimtik: got the same error !!! after using this  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current11:52
fml-ishhardware drivers tells me nothing O_O, well except that my nvidia card needs proprietary drivers11:52
fml-ishwhich i installed11:52
tikdid you active and reboot?11:52
thune3Lekensteyn: when i export TEST="*", the variable is actually set to * (env | grep TEST). of course if if use it in a command (echo $TEST) it gets expanded for that command11:52
fml-ishtik: yes but, do i need drivers to mount a ntfs partition?11:53
Lekensteynalex, try the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html11:53
tikim confused11:53
alex_thanks lekensteyn11:53
tikfml: what wa your original problem?11:53
xsaiddxhello11:53
xsaiddxmy home is mounted on mtab but not on fstab how can i fix this11:53
tikfml: the dual booting? or nvidia11:54
fml-ishtik: i installed windows xp and ubuntu lucid lynx but from ubuntu i cant access my ntfs partition which i need to be accessed11:54
tikok11:54
tikdid you read that guide Iposed?11:54
fml-ishtik : nvidia never been my problem, i said i switched to ubuntu due to fedora's shouting about proprietary software11:54
fml-ishtik: yes11:54
fml-ishtik : i followed every step so far11:54
Lekensteynxsaiddx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28313111:55
castfml-ish: just so i have this right...you switch to ubuntu because it supports proprietary software?11:55
tikwhich did you install first11:55
xsaiddxLekensteyn, ok tnx11:55
xsaiddxill give it a ead11:55
tikfml-ish: which did you install first ubntu or windows11:56
fml-ishcast: i switch to ubuntu because it supports my nvidia graphic card drivers without moaning me like fedora does11:56
fml-ishtik:  windows xp then ubuntu11:56
alketIs there any software that I can edit masive songs Genre ? Not rythmbox because I don't want to mess my library11:56
drygrainhm11:56
tikand which boots11:57
fml-ishtik: if i force ntfs mount with gparted or ntfs config xp won't mount again, so just ubuntu will11:57
SmashcatHi, anyone using Amavisd with Ubunbu 10.10 ? Seems broken11:58
fml-ishtik: sounds like (paradox) mounting ntfs partition from ubuntu breaks windows O_O11:58
tikhmm11:59
tikdo ou umount it before reboot?11:59
tikyou11:59
fml-ishyes11:59
* cast finds life much easier when you avoid proprietary garbage11:59
fml-ishbut isn't that pointless? shouldnt it unmount anyways11:59
tikyeah11:59
tikjust asking11:59
fml-ishcast: ok but nouveau doesnt support my card12:00
__AJhey guys12:00
__AJgot a doubt12:00
__AJi'm usin a high end laptop12:00
tikwhy would you moun with gparted or ntfs config anyway12:00
castfml-ish: life is also much easier without crap hardware :)12:00
__AJnd i've got ubuntu 10.0412:00
fml-ishcast: kk i'll write it down12:00
tikmount*12:00
castindeed.12:00
fml-ishtik: because i can't see the partition in any othe rway12:00
__AJhow can i utilise my graphic card12:00
__AJto its fullest capacity12:01
__AJ?12:01
tikfml-ish: make a note of the /dev/sd whatever for your windows partition12:01
fml-ishcast: nvidia 8200m G 1GB isnt that crappy tho12:01
fml-ishtik: what do you mean?12:01
castevidently it is if you need to screw around with drivers12:01
ibrahimI have a problem with nvidia broken package http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153284712:02
tikdo you know what /dev/sd? or hd? your windows partition is on?12:02
fml-ishtik: sda112:02
zongo_Hi Guys, I am trying to configure a PPP connection with 3G usb modem with a static IP address12:02
tikok do do this in terminal12:02
fml-ishcast: that i know only intel cards wouldn't need proprietary drivers12:02
fml-ishtik: im not on ubuntu now tho =/12:02
tiksudo mkdir /cdrive12:02
Smashcat__AJ depends on your graphic card. How do you know it's not already being used "at its fullest capacity"?12:02
zongo_was wondering if any of you knew the which .conf file would I need to modify12:02
zongo_in order to have a static IPv4 address12:03
castnot just intel.12:03
castati and nvidia, too, can run with free drivers12:03
tikwrite this down then12:03
tiksudo mkdir /cdrive12:03
fml-ishcast: rofl12:03
fml-ishtik: did it but why? =o12:03
tiksudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /cdrive12:03
tikthen your windows partition will be in /cdrive12:04
fml-ishtik: LOL i seen 2 Ds like cddrive12:04
fml-ishtik: yes yes got u12:04
tiksudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /cdrive12:04
fml-ishtik: tried that too, windows xp wont mount after12:04
tikwat do you man won't mount12:04
tikmean12:05
fml-ishtik: ugh, sleepy i meant it wont boot12:05
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fml-ishtik: sorry for that , been up all night trying to figure out my problem12:05
tikheh12:05
austinanyone know an easy way to edit app menu in xubuntu...12:05
mkanyicyfml-ish, what is your problem again?12:06
tikwhat do you man won't boot? you can't select it?12:06
tikit tries too boot12:06
tik?12:06
mkanyicyaustin, what app?12:06
fml-ishmkanyicy: dual booting ubuntu lucid lynx and windows xp12:06
fml-ishtik: if i boot windows xp it will go to loading screen and reset my pc12:06
tikmkanyicy: after he mounts his ntfs partition in ububntu and rebootswindows will not boot12:06
fml-ishtik: im happy without windows but now is needed ...... sadly -.-12:06
titusPATHAFRICA212:06
SmashcatAnyone know a good alternative to Amavisd-new for postfix? Current version just sits there at 100% cpu load, hanging and losing mail.12:06
tikfml-ish: yu can look intoother options12:06
austini said app for short... the applications menu... i want to remove some programs that are showen12:06
fml-ishtik: like?12:06
tikif you have a higher en computer12:07
tikVM's12:07
fml-ishtik: my computer is good only to smash people faces12:07
fml-ishtik: i thought about that it won't be a good choice12:07
tikwhy not?12:07
tikhere PM12:07
fml-ishtik: my cpu would die lol12:07
mkanyicyfml-ish, did the dual boot ever worked fine in the past?12:07
tiknot so12:08
fml-ishmkanyicy : first try on this pc but on others i experienced successfull dual boot12:08
ravenffmpeg command for normalisation?12:08
fml-ishmkanyicy: a note, successfull dual boot until jaunty12:09
fml-ishthen never tried again12:09
blarggI installed vsftpd and changed the config file. How do I restart vsftpd so that the new settings take effect?12:09
TallWhy can not I install BROffice?12:09
blarggI've tried /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart, which tells me to use the service or restart utility. service vsftpd restart gives some error about Rejected send message.12:10
mkanyicyfml-ish, so if I understand you correctly. You say the dual boot works until you boot into ubuntu AND then mount the windows partition (ntfs) in ubuntu?12:10
fml-ishmkanyicy: can i make it simple? my english isnt that great12:10
mkanyicyfml-ish, yes please.12:11
fml-ishmkanyicy: 1 i install windows 2 i install ubuntu  3 i realize i can't see my ntfs partition 4 i force its mount 5 i access my partition and just say hi 6 i unmount 7 i restart my computer 8 i choose windows xp from grub 9 my pc restarts with no errors or such12:11
mkanyicyblargg, what is vsftpd ?12:11
Singoblargg: sudo restart vsftpd12:11
blarggSingo, thanks, that worked.12:12
oCean_Tall: broffice is just a re-branding of openoffice.org right?12:12
thune3Tall: do you get an error trying to install "broffice.org" package from the universe repository?12:12
blarggmkanyicy,  very secure FTP daemon12:12
Singo:-)12:12
Tallyes12:12
oCean_!info broffice12:12
ubottuPackage broffice does not exist in lucid12:12
ravenffmpeg command for normalisation?12:13
oCean_!info broffice.org12:13
ubottubroffice.org (source: openoffice.org): office productivity suite -- BrOffice.org branding. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1 (lucid), package size 82 kB, installed size 768 kB (Only available for i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 alpha amd64 armel hppa ia64 ppc64 s390x sparc all)12:13
blarggOK, so the "rejected send message" was due to not having high enough privilege. Noted.12:13
oCean_Tall: what happens when you try to install? Error message?12:13
guestbroffice OVER openoffice?12:13
mkanyicyfml-ish, when you did step 4 & 5 did you see your windows files?12:13
fml-ishmkanyicy: yes  it was all regular to be honest12:13
oCean_guest: it's a trademark issue, broffice is a rebranding12:14
Tallwhait12:14
mkanyicyfml-ish, can you pastebin your menu.lst file pluts the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and that of 'sudo blkid'12:14
Tall$ tar xzvf nome da versão baixada .tar.gz12:15
fml-ishmkanyicy: no, or better yes i could but it would be useless since now im not on ubuntu12:15
Tall    $ cd nome do arquivo gerado após a descompactação12:15
Tall    $ cd DEBS12:15
oCean_Tall: are you using ubuntu? What version?12:15
oCean_Tall: don't paste here12:15
TallUbunti 10.412:16
mkanyicyfml-ish, you are on windows now?12:16
TallUbuntu 10.412:16
oCean_Tall: in that case 'sudo apt-get install broffice.org' should do the trick12:16
kyubutsu!br | Tall12:16
ubottuTall: Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:16
fml-ishmkanyicy: open suse =/12:17
mkanyicyfml-ish, on another machine or still this machine?12:17
fml-ishmkanyicy: still this12:17
mkanyicyfml-ish, so you are tripple booting?12:18
fml-ishmkanyicy: dual, i removed ubuntu12:18
Tallthanks12:18
oCean_Tall: you're welcome!12:18
fml-ishmkanyicy: thinking of an installation problem or such, thought that surely redoing from a fresh install with all instructions willl do fine12:18
mkanyicyfml-ish, well I rest my case12:18
fml-ishmkanyicy: which means?12:19
mkanyicyfml-ish, I mean how can this channel help you when you dont even have ubuntu?12:19
fml-ishmkanyicy: i been doing alot of trying if you have suggestions i can tell you if that worked to me12:19
raidelubuntu or xubuntu ?????12:19
kk9822hi i want to know how to install xulrunner-2.0 for updating firefox12:21
kk9822can any one help me12:21
kk9822when i run on synaptic it gives some error12:22
kk9822W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xulrunner-2.0/xulrunner-2.0_2.0~b3~hg20100728r48280+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~lucid_i386.deb12:22
kk9822  404  Not Found12:22
fml-ishmkanyicy: should i install ubuntu and come back? possibly Xubuntu due to the fact that i lack i386 ubuntu (and im focusing on 32 bit now)12:22
mkanyicyfml-ish, yes12:22
kk9822what is this pl help me12:23
fml-ishmkanyicy: ouch lol, will this channel be fine with xubuntu? it seems to be a common problem in any version12:23
mkanyicyfml-ish, yes12:24
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fml-ishmkanyicy: thank you very much, hope to find you on when ill be back (it will be long sigh lol)12:24
bihariwelcome back Dr_Willis12:24
tiqhello. how do I restart the window manager? the top and bottom taskbars don't respond anymore12:26
oCean_!resetpanels | tiq, you might want to try this:12:26
ubottutiq, you might want to try this:: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »12:26
tikbrb12:26
tiqthat did it, thanks oCean_12:27
oCean_tik: no need to announce away/afk/brb12:27
oCean_tiq: yay :)12:27
kk9822hi oCean12:27
bihariwelcome back abhinav_singh12:28
kk9822pl help me with my prob12:28
thune3kk9822: maybe try running "apt-get update" and try again. I think you just caught that ppa in a transitional state the last time you updated12:28
oCean_kk9822: seems to be problem with that ppa. However, I don't use it12:28
dustin_hi12:29
SingoHi12:30
dustin_i need to fix my blackbeery software and tether with it using wine12:30
dustin_help pleas!12:31
oCean_dustin_: wine support in #winehq12:31
dustin_ok they didnt help me12:31
dustin_just gave me a few web sites and said good luck12:31
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Dr_Willisdustin_:  thats proberly all we can do also. Unless anyone in this chhanel has happened to do the exact same thing..12:33
Dr_Willisdustin_:  you may want to check the ubuntu forums also.12:33
EuthanatosprojectM 2.0 has been out for over a year now will 10.10 include it or is there a reason it wasn't bothered with in lucid?12:34
oCean_Euthanatos: packages.ubuntu.com does not show any packages 'projectm' for maverick. Further 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel12:35
Euthanatosthanks12:36
dustin_i did it all , and  i got a few things but i dont know how to "compile,or command line, or how to read this stuff of doc, i got most of what i need ,( i think) but i need someone to help me go through it12:36
keitherzcan anyone help me with building wine from source?12:36
ikoniakeitherz: why do you want to ?12:37
keitherzi get configure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system.12:37
keitherzOpenGL and Direct3D won't be supported.12:37
keitherzhmm acceptex patch12:37
bazhangdustin_, installed build-essential yet? what do you need to compile? most packages are in the software repositories and obviate the need for compiling12:37
dustin_keitherz, hey if you can make tehthering possible for my blackberry , the world would be more moible, and lappy happy12:38
kk9822thanks it worked12:39
ikoniakeitherz: why do you think you need to recompile wine to fix that12:39
keitherzdustin_, tehthering just got possible on that samsung thing btw12:39
kk9822thanks thune312:39
dustin_bazhang, i did, but it didnt  get me there to the bottom line,12:39
keitherzbecause thats the way to enable acceptex?12:39
ikoniakeitherz: WARNING: No OpenGL library12:40
bazhangdustin_, what are talking about; give a clear explanation please12:40
ikoniakeitherz: put the openGL libraries on the system12:40
dustin_keitherz, samsung what?12:40
skumaracan we run KDE designed program like kmymoney in gnome desktop and vise versa?12:40
WaltzingAlongskumara: yes12:40
guestgnu_cach12:40
keitherzikonia, already is12:40
tikikonia: you figure it out?12:40
skumarathanks12:40
kk9822bye12:41
om26er!resetpanel12:41
ubottuTo reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »12:41
tikkeitherz: what kinda of video card do you have does it support openGL?12:41
ikoniatik: fiture what out, sorry12:41
ikoniakeitherz: you're using wine out of the ubuntu repos right ?12:41
WaltzingAlongskumara: also might be interested in gnucash12:41
keitherzdustin_, samsung vibrant12:41
ikoniakeitherz: what chipset is that ?12:42
kamyshovyyПодскажите пож. как называется предшественник емпати?12:42
keitherzikonia, nope, uhm from wine hacks.git12:42
tikikonia: sorry t you mixed up with someone else12:42
ikoniakeitherz: ok, so that version is not supported here12:42
keitherztik, i have ati raddeon hd series 3600 (hd365012:42
bazhang!ru | kamyshovyy12:42
ubottukamyshovyy: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:42
skumaratwaltzingAlong tried gnucash many times, but i keep lost in it. some cant understand the account structure!!! kmymoney was easier.12:42
WaltzingAlong!ru | kamyshovyy12:42
ikoniakeitherz: so how that's built is nothing to do with us12:42
keitherzjust asking for support12:42
dustin_ok i need to send this computer im irc with you guys with  internet,aka tethering with a black blackberry 8130 , using wine for the desktop software, .. you must use the software to tether12:43
ikoniakeitherz: just telling you, it's not supported here12:43
ikoniakeitherz: contact the package maintainer for support12:43
keitherzok so if i try getting from repos and get the same error would you help me then12:43
ikoniakeitherz: you won't get that error from the version from the repos,12:43
bazhangdustin_, and you were directed to #winehq several times12:43
keitherzok let me try12:43
ikoniakeitherz: however I'm not aware what dependencies that external system changes, so I can't support your machine any more12:43
tikplayonlinux is prety elite12:44
MaRk-Idustin_: only way to tether it is via bluetooth12:44
dustin_keitherz,bazhang, i went to it  2 times12:44
ikoniaMaRk-I: blackbrrys don't work properly on linux/bluetooth12:44
dustin_already12:44
soreaukeitherz: What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ?12:44
keitherzhttp://hackaday.com/2010/07/30/tethering-the-samsung-vibrant-without-rooting/12:44
dustin_blue tooth?12:44
ikoniaMaRk-I: they have a propriatary stack for bluetooth and usb connection, it's quite annoying12:44
keitherzdustin_,12:44
bazhangdustin_, then be patient. that is the channel to resolve it in12:44
c3lhow does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is runned?12:45
ikoniac3l: it's launched as a dependency for gdm/kdm (login manager)12:45
keitherzsoreau, OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro12:45
aeon-ltdc3l: .xsession if your using a login manager12:45
keitherzsoreau, and in glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering is on12:45
MaRk-Iikonia: i've never used a blackberry... http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147600912:46
soreaukeitherz: I guess its a wine issue then since your drivers seem to be working12:46
ikoniaMaRk-I: they are the devil on linux12:46
dustin_bazhang,i am trying, i just got a deadline to make , and send this computer on the other side of iowa12:46
MaRk-Iikonia: thanks to RIM heh12:46
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keitherzsoreau, i thinkgs theres just and issue with the ./configure it cant seem to find the libraries12:46
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keitherzanyone knows whos the package maintainer of wine in the official ubuntu repo?12:47
kamyshovyyгм! тест12:47
ikoniakeitherz: why ?12:47
Misterio!english | kamyshovyy12:47
ubottukamyshovyy: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat12:47
keitherzikonia, what do you mean why?12:48
ikoniakeitherz: why do you need the package maintainer in the ubuntu repos12:48
keitherzah12:48
keitherzjust need help?12:48
keitherznah maybe ill just wait for someone on winehw12:48
ikoniakeitherz: help with what ?12:49
c3lkeitherz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/wine1.212:49
ikoniakeitherz: what are you struggling with ?12:50
ikoniakeitherz: contacting the wine maintainer for help with your wine problem is not a good idea, as you are not using the ubuntu packages12:50
soreaukeitherz: So you are trying to compile wine? If its complaining at configure time, that means you are missing build dependencies12:50
ikoniakeitherz: you need to contact the maintainer of the repo you are using12:50
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valentinahi,i have a problem making the dvd player work,can i ask somebody for help?12:59
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_johnnyfrom freebsd i'm used to using "geli", can anyone tell me if there's a similar tool for ubuntu? (i've tried googling)12:59
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gtm_hi guys, can someone help me configuring my webcam? (ALi Corp. 0402:5602 and ubuntu 10.04)13:00
oCean_Sary: the link to the app, that has nothing to do with technical support13:00
guestSary: is it your script?13:00
oCean_psycho_oreos: that's a bit overkill don't you think?13:00
psycho_oreos!op | Sary is spamming and offtopic13:00
bazhangSary, keep it on topic and dont paste things here13:00
bazhangpsycho_oreos, no need to repeat13:00
guestoCean_ ok we folllow the rules13:00
GrozzyHi! Is it possible to copy the home-folder, reinstalling ubuntu and put back the old home-folder?13:00
psycho_oreosoCean_, though he did repeat advertisement twice13:00
SaryoCean_, I 'm only exuding positive energy13:01
oCean_psycho_oreos: as it states, "use in emergencies only"13:01
_johnnyGrozzy: assuming you have access to it (not encrypted, with unknown key) then yes13:01
psycho_oreosbazhang, apologies, I'm lagging13:01
saymoook enough, reported, let the judges descide13:01
bazhangSary, its not on topic, so please stop13:01
saymooback ontopic :)13:01
oCean_Sary: we've got enough of that in this channel :)13:01
gtm_ can someone help me configuring my webcam? (ALi Corp. 0402:5602 and ubuntu 10.04)13:01
SaryAnd no , it's not my script13:01
SaryEasy  guys13:01
Jin16hey13:01
Grozzy_johnny, what if the home is on a searated partition, and when I'm reinstalling, I merge all partitoins in to one, will it change something?13:02
Jin16I have a problem13:02
aeon-ltd!ask | Jin1613:02
ubottuJin16: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:02
oCean_Jin16: try to keep (detailed) description in one single line13:02
psycho_oreosoCean_, meh :) preventative measure13:02
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jun_ho13:03
c3lwhat file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?13:03
_johnnyGrozzy: you should move the home folder do a different location. like a external usb flash drive or similar (something you will not be touching with your reinstall/format/partitioning), then move it back after reinstall13:03
Jin16okay...13:03
oCean_!cn | jun_13:03
ubottujun_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:03
Grozzy_johnny, yes ofcourse, but it is allright to just replace to new home folder with the old home folder when the reinstall is finished?13:05
Grozzysorry, bad english..13:05
Jin16my problem is how do I uninstal ubuntu13:05
WaltzingAlongJin16: how did you install it? what do you want instead?13:05
c3lJin16: format the partiiton ubuntu is insatlled on13:06
_johnnyGrozzy: the content of the home folder yes (and the whole thing if the username is the same)13:06
Grozzy_johnny, okey thanks! :)13:07
Jin16I have instal it from a cd, where there was/ are windows on too13:07
Jin16the my pc there are windows on13:07
_johnnyGrozzy: the reason i mentioned the paranthesis (), was in case your current homedir is /home/Grozzy and when you reinstall you have no user called Grozzy :) but assuming you'll use the same username, then no problem13:07
WaltzingAlongJin16: so seems like you could just boot into ms windows already. do that instead of ubuntu. from within ms windows you could format the partition containing ubuntu, as suggested by c3l13:08
hasek79is there a comand to change me (the only user on the computer) to the owner????????13:08
WaltzingAlonghasek79: chown13:08
saymoo!dk | Jin1613:09
ubottuJin16: For at få dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal forefindes kun engelsksproget support.13:09
Grozzy_johnny, I will reinstall my dad's Ubuntu because he have messed it up pretty much, will all installed programs be gone? Not a big problem but just wondering..13:09
gosHi , as I could to run desktop effects lubuntu, because I have installed nvidia 195 and does not work13:09
hasek79then what?13:09
hasek79do i just put in chown?13:09
gosthe compiz fusion too13:09
SaryOkay , i got this issue for days now ..13:09
Sary(zenity:5122): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "equinox",13:09
WaltzingAlonghasek79: man chown;  sudo chown hasek79 file1;13:10
tikGrozzy: yes13:10
bareegogos, tried to install the drivers from the manufacturers website ?13:10
_johnnyGrozzy: if you only backup the homedir then only the stuff in the homedir will be saved. i'm not sure which folder the programs will be installed in, but probably not the homedir, no. most apps have dependencies too, so reinstalling the apps would be the best idea (and of course, back up any personal data he has in relations to the apps)13:10
aeon-ltd_johnny: /usr/bin13:11
_johnnyaeon-ltd: i doubt the bins can just be copied over and run, but potentially yes13:11
c3lwhat file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?13:11
aeon-ltd_johnny: Grozzy is better off building a list of apps rather than migrate13:12
gosbareego , the effects also operate in the environment lxde?13:12
_johnnyaeon-ltd: wasn't that what i said? :)13:12
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aeon-ltd_johnny: soz didn't read the whole conversation13:13
Jin16okay but how do I do that13:13
_johnnynp. well, that was the idea i was going for anyway, hehe13:14
saymooJin16: type /join #ubuntu-dk13:14
Jin16there is no one on there13:14
_johnnycan anyone tell me if md-crypt (for ubuntu) is a good alternative to freebsd's GELI (GEOM)?13:14
_johnnysaymoo: why are you forcing him to join that chan? he's speaking english13:15
gos in the lxde  environment I've never been able to use desktop effects13:15
saymoo_johnny: because his first questions here, where poor english, and Jin16 is danish13:15
saymooin*13:15
_johnnyJin16: try asking the question to me in pm. I'm danish too13:16
MaRk-IJin16: if you're dual booting, windows and linux, just get your windows installation cd and fix the MBR that'll delete the grub, then from windows you can delete the linux partition... if you dont know how to restore/fix MBR go to #windows for help13:17
gossomeone has got to use the desktop effects in lubuntu?13:17
ibrahimJin16: I don't know what exactly is your problem but why don't you use virtual box instead of dual booting13:18
bareegogos, not sure13:18
bareegogos, I just use lxde13:18
abhijitgos, try in #lubuntu13:18
ravenhow to mount a lvm automatically?13:19
abhijiti am going to reinstall ubuntu. anyway to get back up of my updates?13:20
Neo--how do I un-revert things I reverted? if I do revert -r (some higher revision number) I get an error that that revision is not in branch, but if I do a fresh branch I get branch with that higher revision number...13:20
WaltzingAlongabhijit: save files in /var/cache/apt/archives13:20
goslubuntu is very good but has many limitations with your desktop13:20
zongo_hey Guys, anyone has managed to make wvdial work in 10.04 ?13:20
abhijitWaltzingAlong, already done that using aptoncd. but that only aps ? i want update too?13:21
WaltzingAlongabhijit: updates are just new packages, so you just need the most recent packages13:21
abhijitWaltzingAlong, I am talking about system updates.13:22
gosI think lubuntu lxde is  not ready to use desktop magical effects13:22
WaltzingAlongso was i13:22
eliezeranyonw with wireshark experience pleaase PM13:22
abhijitWaltzingAlong, okki13:23
abhijitgos, I never talkd to you13:23
Dr_Willislxde is sort of counter to 'magical desktop effects' :)13:23
hishkikharkhodeti13:24
aeon-ltdDr_Willis: more specifically openbox13:24
Putrhi! I used samba to connect to a win7 computer... it worked fine, but today it all of a sudden does not work anymore (the connection ubuntu->win times out, other way is fine)13:24
Putrwhat could be the culprit?13:24
Dr_WillisPutr:  you are refering to windows 'shares' ?13:25
abhijitDr_Willis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 any help???13:25
shadeslayerhey everyone13:25
kyxzmehow to enable TUN/TAP on 10.04?13:25
PutrDr_Willis: i connect: smb:\\computer_name\13:25
Putri dont know how you call them :D13:25
Putr/ not \\ :D13:26
shadeslayerapparently i installed nvidia-current via apt-get but it doesnt install the modules on account of missing kernel source13:26
Dr_WillisPutr:  try using the ip# instead of the name13:27
Putrwin to win (\\computer_name) works fine, win to ubuntu works fine, just ubuntu to win does not13:27
PutrDr_Willis: Ok i'll try that13:27
Dr_WillisPutr:  'smb' = samba = how windows does 'shares'13:27
dbc_这是什么?13:27
bazhang!cn | dbc_13:27
ubottudbc_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:27
PutrDr_Willis: Your a genious :D13:28
DraknekHow can I control the mounted drives shown in the Places menu? I have one drive there which I want ignored and one drive which is not there and I would like it to be.13:28
gosDr willis ,then it is impossible to use desktop effects with lubuntu ?13:28
sixthis there a ubuntu netbook channel?13:28
PutrDr_Willis: it works13:28
gossure?13:28
PutrI owe you one13:28
bazhangsixth, nope13:28
WaltzingAlongkyxzme: modprobe tun13:29
cipherssonI herd on a podcast that fedora has nvidia 3d beta support... any one know how I can get that running on ubuntu ?13:29
c3lwhat file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?13:29
kyxzmeWaltzingAlong, not found13:29
bazhanggos, its possible sure13:29
kyxzmealready tried13:29
bazhanggos, if your card supports it13:29
bazhang!ccsm > gos13:29
ubottugos, please see my private message13:29
WaltzingAlongkyxzme: seems like it was supported here out of the box13:30
soreauc3l: $HOME/.bashrc13:30
Dr_Willisc3l:  what are you wanting to set exactly?13:31
cipherssonso I pressed alt f2 and typed    free the fish   but now I want to kill the fish13:31
tikhuh13:32
mitchellhi all.  a question.  i finallly installed the b43 driver for my broadcom wireless chip on my netbook.  so finally i can connect to the internet.  but bootup still gets stuck on the establishing PCI-wireless-bridge-b43 line.  Now it is impossible for me to wake up the computer from Hibernate because it can't get past this line.  What else do I need to do?13:32
Dr_WillisSome fishy easter egg in gnome.. i recall.. no ide ahow to turn it off. :013:32
gosyes with gnome no problem with lubuntu lxde many problems13:33
gosI have installed the compiz fusion with lucid and desktop effects work, with lucid lubuntu not work13:33
Dr_Willisgos:  compiz would replace the window manager that lubuntu/lxde is using.13:33
abhijitDr_Willis, ping13:33
tikciphersson: nowthere is fish floating around my desktop :P13:34
ciphersson:-) haha I I can't get it to go away13:35
daniel_treeafter while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?13:35
gosi only  know the compiz fusion does not work in lxde13:35
Dr_Willisciphersson:  log out/back in13:35
ghoulsbladehi all, ubuntu 10.04 here, how can i change the violet background image of the login/gdm dialog to something else ? couldn't find anything that works in menu and wiki so far =)13:35
soreaugos: Can you pastebin the output of compiz --replace from your terminal to pastebin.com?13:36
Dr_Willisgos:  you would set up your Desktop session to run 'compuiz' instead of openbox. and you would have the effects13:36
Dr_Willislubuntu is using openbox right? I never can rember13:36
soreauoh yes13:36
aeon-ltdDr_Willis: *compiz13:36
daniel_treeafter while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?13:36
Dr_WillisIm not sure aht the --replace stuff will work properly with every window maanger. it may not work with openbox.13:36
soreaugos: To set compiz as the default window manager in lxde, go to preferences->desktop-session-settings->advanced tab->Window Manager field and change openbox to compiz13:37
daniel_treeI would really like to hear your opinion on that13:37
Dr_WillisI cant really understand why one would use lubuntu + compiz either. :)13:37
tikciphersson: You can get rid of Wanda by pressing ALT+F2, then “pkill gnome-panel”13:37
tikYour panel will disappear for a few seconds and then reload itself. Sometimes it takes more than a few seconds, so be patient.13:37
MaRk-Iciphersson: just kill the panel13:38
tikpretty elite13:38
soreauDr_Willis: I dont see why it wouldnt unless ubuntu patched openbox to misbehave :P13:38
cipherssonlulz13:38
tikhttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/09/a-few-gnome-easter-eggs/13:38
Dr_Willissoreau:  not all window managers support that 'replace'  feature.  at least ive seen many in the past that dont.13:38
soreauDr_Willis: yea me neither13:38
tikgegls from outer space13:39
tikhehe13:39
Dr_Willissoreau:  its possible  openbox now supports it.13:39
soreauMight as well use standalone compiz13:39
daniel_treeafter while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?13:39
gosdr willis : this the reporte: Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators13:39
gosFound no decorator to start13:39
gosgos@gos-laptop:~$ Advertencia del gestor de ventanas: Ocurrió un error al cargar el tema «Clearlooks»: Falló al encontrar un archivo válido para el temaClearlooks13:39
WaltzingAlong!repeat > daniel_tree13:39
ubottudaniel_tree, please see my private message13:39
Dr_Willissoreau:  compiz + panel + the file manager.. basically is lubuntu desktop last i checked. :)13:40
ballbagcompiz is great13:40
daniel_treeubottu,  :(13:40
cipherssonaint compiz rewritin in c++ for the 10.10 release?13:40
Dr_Willisgos:  perhaps you need to install emerald, or gtk-decorator13:40
Daekdroomciphersson, not for the 10.10 release13:40
ravenlvm mount: "is not a valid block device"13:41
Daekdroomciphersson, compiz is independent from ubuntu development and its version 0.9 will not ship within 10.1013:41
gosdrwillis: os@gos-laptop:~$ compiz --replace13:41
goscompiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'ccp'13:41
gosCouldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators13:41
gosFound no decorator to start13:41
bazhanggos, pastebin it not here13:41
tikravn: are you trying to mount a cd?13:41
bazhang!paste > gos13:41
ubottugos, please see my private message13:41
raventik no13:41
gosdrwillis, ok  will be gtk-decorator13:41
tikraven: what is your mount command?13:41
Dr_Willisgos:  compiz uses 'decorators' to define what widgits  and titlebar to use. As i said you MAY need to install emerald or that gtk-decorator.13:42
raventik  mount /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home13:42
Dr_Willisgos:  you may want to install/run 'fusion-icon' also it lets you manage compiz13:42
soreaugos: Pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep compiz13:42
tikwhat's lv0 ?13:42
young001how to install fedora theme on my ubuntu?13:42
aeon-ltdgos: if your going to use compiz standalone, unless you really like lxpanel and ldm, you could just simplify it by using startx and xinitrc + a independent panel of choice13:42
raventik lvm"device"name13:42
c3lDr_Willis: things like xset r rate , xset m etc. those are reset after logout13:43
tikive never heard o it13:43
tikof13:43
tikwhat type of filesystem i it?13:43
raventik ext313:43
Dr_Willisc3l:  you could always make a script thats auto ran by the gnome auto-starting features13:43
tikok13:43
tiksudo mount -t ext3 /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home13:43
tikdoes that work?13:43
raventik no same error13:44
tikweird13:44
kb3ieni've just installed vnc server as a daemon in netd.conf as per http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/vncserver.html . now i can vncviewer into my box and get prompted for a login NICE. but if a 'switch user' from gnom the login page lets me know i'm still logged in with arunning desktop "currently logged in" vnc sessions cannot resume that session. Can a make the box multi-headed (vncserver heads) and also multi-session ac13:45
kb3ien those heads?13:45
FloodBot1kb3ien: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:45
eliezerdoes anyone know how to make wireshark capture,,please pm me13:45
soreauDr_Willis: He doesnt have compiz isntalled completely13:45
soreauHe does not need fusion-icon13:45
soreaugos: You need to make sure to install at least the following: compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins emerald compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 python-compizconfig13:45
Stefanos90γεια σας.. ξερει κανεις αν υπαρχει αυτο σε pdf? http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python_el:Περιεχόμενα13:46
bazhang!gr | Stefanos9013:46
ubottuStefanos90: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes13:46
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Stefanos90<bazhang> ela?13:47
Error404NotFoundcreating a system for people to fix, what are other non-harming (e.g. serious data loss) methods to destroy your system beside: http://pastebin.com/1tJN5h9F13:47
giorgiociao13:47
bazhangStefanos90, /join #ubuntu-gr  this is english only13:47
raventik?13:47
bazhang!it | giorgio13:47
ubottugiorgio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:47
tiki don't understand your /dev13:48
tikwhy is it that l stuff13:48
raventik i gave it the name13:48
tikive never seen lv013:48
tikits usually sd013:48
tiksda113:48
tikxt13:48
tikect.13:48
FloodBot1tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:48
tiksorry13:48
antonio_hey all13:49
rileypi have 2 instances of irexexc running one as root and one as my user name dad13:49
tikraven: why13:49
tikyou did something wrong13:49
raventik it was mounted13:49
rileyphow can i stop the root instance Im using mythbuntu 10.0413:49
ravenbut after reboot it is not possible to mount it13:49
tikwhat do  you mean13:49
antonio_I need to reformat my extern 500 gig harddrive to xfer some large backups from this lappy (ubuntu) to my new lappy...13:50
antonio_should I format it as ext or ntfs?13:50
bazhangantonio_, use gparted live cd13:50
tikdepends if you want to use it in windows or not13:50
antonio_what?13:50
bazhangantonio_, shared with windows? ntfs then13:50
tikbazhang: no need13:50
Misterioantonio_: Then ext413:50
antonio_why gparted?13:50
tikits external he can unmont it13:50
Misterioif you are NOT going to share with windows13:51
bazhangah right missed that13:51
antonio_I'm using with it win13:51
antonio_so ntfs then?13:51
tikyes ntfs13:51
bazhangantonio_, ntfs then13:51
antonio_ok...13:51
Misterioantonio_: If you are using with WIndows, ntfs13:51
antonio_now13:51
antonio_how do I format my hd on ubuntu?13:51
tikheh13:51
abhijitnu 1 help. :'(13:51
tikgparter is a good util.13:51
Misterio!gparted | antonio_13:51
ubottuantonio_: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php13:51
raventik?13:51
tikgparted13:51
tikraven: I have no idea13:52
tikit should be named /dev/sda1 or somethin13:52
tikhow did you rename it?13:52
rileypi have 2 instances of irexexc running one as root and one as my user name dad13:52
rileyphow can i stop the root instance Im using mythbuntu 10.0413:52
lunganHaving som anoying sound, like a big beeep when i for example press ctrl+f and write a word in firefox thats not on the site, or if I press backspace in chatwindow when already at start?13:53
tikps - aux |grep iexecx13:53
aeon-ltdrileyp: kill it via 'sudo killall irexec'13:53
tikno dont killall13:53
rileypyes but when I do a reboot same problem will exist13:53
tikjus kill the PID ofthe oneyou want to kill13:53
aeon-ltdrileyp: soz just 'kill'13:53
tikand leave the other one runing13:53
vivek243hi everyone...!!!13:54
WaltzingAlong!seen everyone13:54
ubottuI have no seen command13:54
antonio_I just ran gparted..can't see my 500 gig ext hd in there13:55
rileypso I need to edit  whatever is starting the root irxec instance13:55
antonio_never mind, found it :D13:55
rileypwhat would sart the root insatnce of irxec in mythbuntu13:55
rileyp*start13:55
arunkumar413hi friends i cannot boot 10.4  after installing fedora 1313:55
WaltzingAlongantonio_: need to pick the drive out of the list. otherwise the main area shows just partitions from the selected drive13:55
tikuhm crontab init.d rc.local ?13:55
tikWaltzingAlong: good advice he got it though ;)13:56
Gneaarunkumar413: why install fedora?13:56
dinoooooI have a problem. I installed ubuntu on a hard drive with a windows system, and I gave ubuntu too little disc space, how do I enlarge this?13:56
tikarunkumar413: read up on recovering grub2 you need a ubuntu livecd to do it13:56
aeon-ltddinooooo: using a livecd like gparted to manage partitions13:57
vivek243dinooooo u can ues disk management13:57
kosaidpohello guys i installed lampp usin tasksel so where's my htdocs ? tnx13:57
raventik lvcreate tells me "homelvm is not active" - what could that mean?13:57
tiki have no idea nout lv13:57
tikabout13:57
tikr how to mount it sory13:57
icerootkosaidpo: /var/www/13:58
nanodanokosaidopo try try /var/www13:58
eliezerdo i need driver to capture packets ?13:58
WaltzingAlongkosaidpo: could also check the configuration file for apache. /etc/apache2/ ...13:58
vivek243hey nanodano what are u talking about??13:58
vivek243nanodano i also need help on running php programs..13:59
nanodanoeliezer you dont need special drivers if your network card can handle promiscious mode13:59
nanodanoviveck243 what is your trouble with php14:00
arunkumar413cant boot 10.4 after installling fedora 1314:00
nanodanoeliezer are you using a specific program?14:00
Gnea!ask | arunkumar41314:00
ubottuarunkumar413: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:00
eliezeri try wireshark14:00
vivek243nanodano it is giving me error as 404 not found..14:00
Gneaarunkumar413: so what?14:00
ravenLVM what does "inactive volume group" ?14:00
eliezeri cant manage to make ir work14:00
eliezeri want capture14:00
eliezerany recomendations14:00
nanodanoeliezer wireless or ethernet14:01
eliezerethernet14:01
nanodanovivek243 are you using apache?14:01
eliezerboth14:01
eliezerwireless too14:01
vivek243nanodano how to chek it?14:01
eliezermainly wireless14:01
nanodanoeliezer have you set your wifi to montior mode14:01
vivek243nanodano can u be more specific?14:01
eliezerhow ?14:01
nanodanovivek243 did you set up your web server yourself?14:01
nanodanoeliezer look into aircrack-ng suite there is a tool called airmon-ng which will put your wifi into monitor mode14:02
arunkumar413Gnea:i want to boot 10.4 also14:02
vivek243nanodano what is web server?14:02
ravenLVM what does "inactive volume group" ?14:02
eliezerjust install that14:02
nanodanovivek243 what are you trying to do with php?14:02
KL-7Hi. How can I hide all app/places/system menus under one parent menu? I'd like to have only one icon for this menus in gnome panel14:02
nanodanovivek243 if you dont know what a web server is do you know what a 404 error is14:02
vivek243nanodano i am a student..14:02
eliezeris that in terminal14:02
vivek243nanodano there is php programming in our syllabus..14:03
aeon-ltdKL-7: right click on the panel, go on edit panel you can remove the menus and add the icon menu14:03
nanodanotry channel #php14:03
vivek243nanodano in our college we use Fedora 8...but at home i have desktop edition of Ubuntu 10.4 LTS14:03
ravenLVM what does "inactive volume group" ?14:03
abhijithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 help14:04
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Gneaarunkumar413: then you need to not overwrite stuff14:04
mkanyicyvivek243, how can we help you?14:04
tikI installed wine version 1. but I am getting wie 1.1.42?14:04
tikwine*14:04
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vivek243nanodano i have internet connection...i use mozilla fire fox..14:04
aeon-ltdtik: that is version 114:05
tikim aiming for 1.214:05
KL-7aeon-ltd, I think this settings allow only edit submenus. And I want to move all three menu in parent menu and place this menu in my gnome-panel... It's hard to explain =(14:05
mkanyicyvivek243, what do you want to do?14:05
tikaeon-ltd: sudo apt-get install wine1.2 ? right?14:05
aeon-ltdKL-7: you can remove the old menu and add the collective menu on gnome panel14:05
vivek243mkanyicy i want to work php programs on my pc14:06
arunkumar413Gnea: i made the necessary changes inthe menu.lst file but still i cant boot the 10.414:06
aeon-ltdtik: it won't work unless you using a PPA that has wine 1.214:06
nanodanovivek243: if you want to make your first php program go to terminal make a file called test.php14:06
smmalmansoorii want to program a small feature in ubuntu and submit it, where can i ask about ubuntu development?14:06
coz_abhijit,  mm  how did you install and then .subsequentyly un-install kde??14:06
nanodanovivek243 in there write this:  <?php phpinfo(); ?>14:06
eliezerok i installed aircrack from sofware center14:06
tikuh14:06
eliezerhow i run the airmong14:06
tikit worked14:06
tikI installed it14:06
nanodanovivek243: chmod +x text.php14:06
vivek243nanodano where to store it?14:06
arunkumar413Gnea: the boot error i get is 1314:06
eliezerplease pm if posible14:06
abhijit coz_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and --||-- remove kubuntu-desktop14:06
KL-7aeon-ltd, ty, I'll try it14:06
nanodanovivek243: then type php test.php14:06
eliezeranyone14:06
nanodanovivek243: it doesnt matter14:06
abhijit!pm > eliezer14:07
nanodanovivek243 you can do this on command line14:07
eliezeri dont mind14:07
ubottueliezer, please see my private message14:07
icerootnanodano: dont forget the shebang14:07
vivek243nanodano ok.14:07
nanodanoiceroot: the shebang is only necessary if you want to run it as ./test.php14:07
mkanyicyvivek243, so what is stopping you?14:07
nanodanoif you just run: php test.php you are telling itt o use PHP14:07
FishFaceLooking for some live streaming webcam to run directly off the PC. Anyone have a good suggestion? No thank you to Camstream though.14:07
icerootnanodano: and chmod +x is only necesaary if you use ./test.php :)14:07
mkanyicyvivek243, do you want to use apache web server as well?14:07
vivek243nanodano we want to make web pages..14:08
nanodanoyou're right iceroot ;)14:08
coz_abhijit,  ok that should have uninstalled most everything  without issue...however...in the past when doing this myself it generally messed things up for me as well... you reinstall kubuntu desktop ...see if it fixes these issues...then uninstall it again with  sudo apt-get autoremove  kubuntu-desktop14:08
vivek243mkanyicy 404 not found.14:08
eliezerwhats the comand to see my wireless card in terminal14:08
eliezeris a lsm something14:08
eliezeri forgot14:08
nanodanovivek243 well then the only difference is that you store it in your WWW root usually /var/ww14:08
tiktik@tik-laptop:~$ wine --version14:08
tikwine-1.1.4214:08
mkanyicyvivek243, what about the 404 error?14:08
tiklspci i think14:08
abhijitcoz_, just few min before i installed kde again. but it is not solving the problem.14:08
eliezerneed to check to see if i can get it in monitor mode14:08
aeon-ltdeliezer: or ifconfig14:09
KL-7aeon-ltd, I've found what I was looking for. It's standard main menu applet. =)14:09
vivek243nanodano can u guide me in PM?14:09
nanodanoiwconfig is wireless config14:09
aeon-ltdKL-7: good :)14:09
vivek243nanodano please?14:09
coz_abhijit,  mm  ok ... not sure of what else i could offer ... did you try reinstalling this codelite?14:09
antonio_for some reason I can't select NTFS in gparted for this drive?14:09
abhijitcoz_, yes14:09
tikaeon-ltd: i remved wine1.2 and reinstalled it and im still getting version 1.1.42 :(14:09
nanodanovivek243 there are plenty of guides on how to make your first php page14:09
ravenLVM what does "inactive volume group" ?14:09
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Gneaarunkumar413: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28254514:10
Audibleso i have a problem, my drive accidentally got formatted14:10
eliezerit was a lsm something to view info about mi wireles card14:10
eliezerin terminal14:10
Audibleanyone know a good recovery tool ?14:10
abhijitcoz_, so only one option remain i.e. to fresh install ubuntu?14:10
iceroot!recover | Audible14:10
ubottuAudible: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel14:10
aeon-ltdtik: its not officially out yet https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.214:10
mkanyicyantonio_, what do you want to achieve?14:10
coz_abhijit,  if it comes down to it... and  you have to reinstall... let me suggest downloading and burning the minimal install cd and choose  edubuntu-desktop...this offers the advantage of both gnome and kde libraries and applications and is far faster than either ubuntu or kubuntu..somehow14:10
Guest9929anybody got advice on editing this : mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“newrootpassword”) where user=’root’;14:10
abhijitcoz_, ok14:10
vivek243nanodano  see i know what php program is..but my problem is that while i entered the path in my terminal i get 404 not found error..14:11
antonio_mkanyicy: I need to backup a ton of stuff from this lappy to the new lappy14:11
aeon-ltdtik: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa14:11
antonio_I need ntfs as some of the files are bigger than 4gigs..14:11
Mike_Flip79Hi agian I ve got Lucid Lynx Netbook up and running on my acer aspire 5000 but cant get the wireless working. possible reasons are the hardware button on the front that switches wlan on/off isnt supported and/or the B43xx needs ndiswrap which I cant DL cuz my wireless isnt working yet14:11
Mike_Flip79any advice?14:11
aeon-ltdtik: then do this --> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine14:11
abhijit!fixgrub | arunkumar413 see this14:11
ubottuarunkumar413 see this: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.14:11
coz_abhijit,  I have made a permanent switch to Edubuntu  installed via minial cd... it has some applicatoins you might want to remove afterwards  but overall it functions far better14:11
mkanyicyantonio_, then why are you using gparted?14:11
antonio_to format the drive as ntfs14:11
USGIshimuralol14:11
abhijitcoz_, ok. thanks14:12
Guest9929yeah it may be jusy my syntax but im getting this error : mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“newrootpassword”) where user=’root’;14:12
MaRk-IMike_Flip79: connect the pc with ethernet do updates and it will offer to install drivers14:12
mkanyicyantonio_, but you will lose data then unless you first resize the partition14:12
arunkumar413abhijit: actually i have 3 distributions on my system. i can boot fedora and 9.04 but not 10.414:12
Guest9929mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“xxxxxx”) where user=’root’;     do i modify just the xxx part14:12
antonio_mkanyicy: I've already backed the stuff up14:12
abhijitarunkumar413, tell me the sequence you installed those os14:13
icerootGuest9929: update database.user also see #mysql14:13
arunkumar41310.4 on sda2 and 9.04 on sda514:13
eliezercommand to see my wireles card specs in terminal,,lsm something i forgot,,can someone please14:13
arunkumar413abhijit: first 9.04>10.4>fedora 1314:13
Guest9929iceroot, do i run that from the mysql command line14:13
Gneaarunkumar413: well, heh, you're going to need one grub to "rule them all"14:14
abhijitarunkumar413, you tried in fedora channel?14:14
sometuxeliezer, lsmod14:14
mkanyicyantonio_, then on gparted make sure that all the partitions higher then the one you want to modify have been unmounted14:14
antonio_?14:14
arunkumar413abhijit: yes14:14
abhijitarunkumar413, what they say?14:14
icerootGuest9929: why not using mysqladmin?14:14
eliezeris anotherone14:14
eliezerjust like it14:14
Gneaarunkumar413: can you still boot with a livecd and fix grub that way?14:14
arunkumar413abhijit: they said to try in #ubuntu14:15
abhijitarunkumar413, see what Gnea is asking14:15
Gneaabhijit: heh, they said try here - because we have better support14:15
eliezergive me a bunch or info about my Pc14:15
soreauabhijit: Can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep wx ?14:15
eliezercards etc14:15
abhijitGnea, :D14:15
ravenLVM "inactive volume group" ???14:15
vol7ronwhat does this mean? pgadmin3: relocation error: pgadmin3: symbol _ZN21wxMemoryFSHandlerBase19AddFileWithMimeTypeERK8wxStringPKvmS2_, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 with link time reference14:15
mkanyicyantonio_, are you using live CD?14:15
abhijitsoreau, ok14:15
eliezerit look like that one14:15
antonio_no14:15
antonio_I'm on my ubuntu box right now14:15
MaRk-Iarunkumar413: fedora uses grub, lucid uses grub2, better create a chainload for lucid so it will load it's own grub14:16
antonio_using gparted to format the ext hd thats hooked up it it14:16
arunkumar413abhijit: now the boot loader is fedora's.i've made some changes to the menu.lst.It boots 9.04.but not 10.414:16
mkanyicyantonio_, that might be the prob14:16
tikaeon-ltd: tik@tik-laptop:~$ wine --version14:16
tikwine-1.214:16
abhijitsoreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/471462/14:16
tikheh14:16
mkanyicyare you changing a format of an old partition to NTFS14:16
aeon-ltdtik: it worked?14:16
tiki had to add anther ppa14:16
antonio_yeah14:16
Gneaarunkumar413: if fedora was the last distro that you installed, you should be able to boot the 10.04 livecd and make it so that 10.04's grub is the 'master grub', if you understand my meaning, and that should detect and boot all 3 linux14:16
tikand install the gecko version14:16
abhijitarunkumar413, another our friend 'Gnea' is asking something to you.14:16
vol7roni didn't have problems with pgadmin before?14:17
antonio_I have my extern usb hd...hooked up now...I want to format it as ntfs14:17
tik:(14:17
mkanyicyantonio_, I recommend you boot on liveCD14:17
mkanyicyantonio_, or else unmount the partition first14:17
antonio_unmount the usb one?14:17
abhijitsoreau, here is my problem in detail: http://is.gd/dULw314:17
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mkanyicyantonio_, regardless14:18
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soreauabhijit: Have you tried removing and reinstalling those two packages?14:18
mkanyicyantonio_, you must not partition a mounted partition14:18
tikaeon-ltd: oh well my joystick still doesnt work14:18
abhijitsoreau, yes tried with purgre too. but no success.14:18
arunkumar413Gnea: what are the commands after booting from the 10.4 live cd14:18
antonio_whys that?14:18
antonio_what happens if you do?14:18
tikarunkumar413: to do what14:19
mkanyicyantonio_, that is not safe14:19
USGIshimuraantonio__well for starters GParted shouldn't be able to even partition something that is mounted14:19
soreauabhijit: Have you built any packages from source yourself?14:19
kosaidpoguys ive installed lampp with tasksel but when im done icudnt find it on /opt14:19
abhijitsoreau, no. all from repo14:19
kosaidpoany idea where this lampp is hidden14:19
arunkumar413tik: to make the 10.4 grub as the master grub14:19
Gneaarunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD14:20
arunkumar413abhijit: i also included the chainlodaer of 10.4 in fedoras menu.lst but still cant boot14:20
abhijitarunkumar413, i dunno anything about chainloader.14:20
soreauabhijit: Have you tried running ldconfig ?14:20
abhijitsoreau, no14:21
abhijitsoreau, i dunno what is it14:21
MaRk-Iarunkumar413: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1370041&postcount=414:21
soreauabhijit: sudo ldconfig14:21
MaRk-Ilike I said fedora uses grub legacy, ubuntu grub 214:21
abhijitsoreau, can you wait 2 mins?14:21
rooisto47hi everybody14:21
vol7ronis there a bugs channel?14:21
soreauabhijit: nope14:21
abhijitsoreau, i need to switch to admin accou t for doing sudo things14:21
rooisto47does anyone set evolution for an @ymail.com account ?14:22
abhijitsoreau, i am in my standard accunt not having sudo previledges14:22
Gnea!bugs | vol7ron14:22
ubottuvol7ron: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots14:22
soreauabhijit: That sounds really wrong14:22
guestarunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub214:22
soreauabhijit: You should never login as root. ever.14:22
coz_abhijit,   yes that does sound wrong14:22
abhijitsoreau, hmm. may i switch then?14:22
soreauabhijit: now you probably have permission issues all over the place14:23
abhijitsoreau, coz_ hey i am not talking about root. i am talking abotu administrator account. having sudo priviledges.14:23
spookyrooisto47: Try reading "Setting up UK ymail.com accounts for POP access in Evolution" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89563214:23
coz_abhijit,  the default user account should already have sudo14:23
abhijitsoreau, coz_ this is my standard account.14:23
abhijitcoz_, yes right. and this is not my default account.14:23
coz_abhijit,  I see14:23
rooisto47spooky, thx i'll look it14:24
abhijitsoreau, what to do? will you please wait?14:24
spooky!help14:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:24
spookyCan anyone use ubottu?14:24
coz_abhijit, do what you need to get into that account  to test14:24
abhijit!bot | spooky yes14:25
ubottuspooky yes: Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins14:25
spookyabhijit: thanks!14:25
abhijitcoz_, soreau is guiding me to solve that issue. nwo we need to do some comamnds with 'sudo......'14:25
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joinerHi14:26
joinerI use wine14:26
joinerand i want to run Chess FX14:27
bazhang!appdb | joiner14:27
ubottujoiner: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:27
bazhangjoiner /join #winehq14:27
joineroutch!14:28
coz_joiner,   where you type for us to see here just type  /join #winehq14:28
joineri know, i know14:28
abhijitsoreau, atleast can you just post instruction to my forum question so that i can follow it afterwards when i go to admin account?14:29
ronnieHi People, Im having issues booting Lucid over the network, using the same method used to boot Hardy, please help :(14:30
ronnieI have posted about it ont he forum but have had no reply14:30
ronniehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9649581#post964958114:30
rooisto47spooky, didn't work either, I've an authentication error14:31
aeon-ltdronnie: check BIOS14:31
andrew_332anybody know how to setup mysql for zoneminder?14:31
coz_ronnie,  if no one can help here  you can also try the ##linux channel.... they may be able to help14:31
rooisto47spooky, and really don't see where is it, it's all correct my login and passwd14:31
ronnieaeon-ltd: It isnt Bios. Ive tried this on several machiens inc Virtualbox if you read forum~14:32
spookyare you using username@ymail as the username?14:32
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rooisto47spooky, yes14:33
spookytry it without ymail.com?14:33
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rooisto47ok14:33
zrbeckerWhen you install something from source and your use --prefix /usr/local/program do you just delete that directory to "uninstall" the program?14:33
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ravenLVM "inactive volume group" ???14:33
rooisto47spooky, same error14:34
R33D3M33RHi, anybody using empathy here?14:35
USGIshimurayep14:35
andrew332i cant get the web interface of zoneminder running, i think its my mysql settings, anyone able to help?14:35
USGIshimuraR33D3M33r: how can I help14:36
econdudeawesomeHey y'all. Got a bit of a recurring problem I can't seem to figure out. When my computer boots, GDM doesn't come up and I have to log in through the command line. Usually not a problem, but it'd be nice if I could get GDM working right. I believe the problem lies with the NVidia driver, or something. Anyone have any idea?14:36
tdnHow do I disable gnome-key-ring?14:36
ravenLVM "inactive volume group" ???14:36
R33D3M33Rwell, I'm testing it, but it almost froze when I entered this channel, with 90% CPU usage :(14:36
expackI'm trying to get ati-driver-installer-10-7-x86.x86_64.run to execute because it will allow my ATI Radeon HD 5770 to run on Ubuntu.14:36
expackHowever, it won't execute14:36
sameh_saeedhow can i connect myself to the internet . i am using vmware, and linux backtrack. plz give me any hint14:36
USGIshimuracan't connect to internet using VMware that easily sameh14:37
USGIshimuraR33DM33R: that's very odd14:37
R33D3M33RI know... the window manager said if I want to kill it, but i let it run and it works now14:37
sameh_saeedUSGIshimura why not ? i am using the same vmware to connect ubunto, windows XP, and windows 2008 server14:38
R33D3M33Rbut it took more than 15 seconds for this channel to load14:38
USGIshimurasameh_saeed: it's not that easy14:38
sameh_saeedany suggestions ?14:39
econdudeawesomeHey y'all. Got a bit of a recurring problem I can't seem to figure out. When my computer boots, GDM doesn't come up and I have to log in through the command line. Usually not a problem, but it'd be nice if I could get GDM working right. I believe the problem lies with the NVidia driver, or something. Anyone have any idea? Perhaps the timing is off in grub?14:39
tikaeon-ltd: compiling mame 1.3 :P14:39
tikGDM?14:39
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aeon-ltdtik: gnome desktop manager, the login manager for gnome14:40
tikoh ok14:40
k0raldoes anyone know how to get write permission to debugfs partition ?14:40
expackOK let's try this again: I'm trying to get ati-driver-installer-10-7-x86.x86_64.run to execute because it will allow my ATI Radeon HD 5770 to run on Ubuntu. However, it won't execute by either double-clicking on it or by installing or opening it through the terminal.14:40
k0ralI mean : even as root, I cannot modify any file14:41
tikk0ral: is it mount in read only mount t in rw14:41
R33D3M33Rexpack: chmod it to +x14:41
econdudeawesomeAny idea? Google seems pretty sparse on the subject ;-)14:41
aeon-ltdk0ral: encrypted?14:41
k0raltik: I tried "-o rw" but it doesn't work, and nothing is encrypted14:41
tikecondudeawesome: did it work befor you installed the  nvidia drivers?14:41
k0ralaeon-ltd: nothing is encrypted14:42
pyTopherI've been using Ubuntu for a while now and I've noticed that after updating my grub has another Ubuntu choice with a different Linux version number, is there a way to get the ones with a lower version number not to show up?14:42
monsoonhi. can anyone point out tools to use to manage/monitor bandwidth usage of servers and PCs in a very small office network? i am looking at monitoring 5-6 webservers and about 6-8 other PCs on a small office network14:42
ballbagexpack https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage14:42
aeon-ltdk0ral: mounted?14:42
R33D3M33RpyTopher: yes, unistall the older kernels in software center14:42
econdudeawesometik I believe so--I install the system, works great, upgrade everything and add everything in (including the driver) and then the problem starts14:42
ravenLVM "inactive volume group" ???14:42
pyTopherok, thanks14:43
monsoonpyTopher: You will have to edit the config file. What i do is edit a file called /boot/grub/grub.cfg but there might be easier options14:43
tiki'd remove the nvidia-currert or w/e it is14:43
tikand start over.. rerun hardware update14:43
ohirmonsoon: no, he need to remove old software, he is not about to use it14:43
k0ralaeon-ltd: what do you mean ?14:43
econdudeawesometik I've had to reinstall the system a few times this week because of screwing up another partition (and deleting the partition install... I advise against doing that). Every time the same issue occurred14:43
tik"hardware drivers"14:43
Q_Continuum10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?14:43
ohirpyTopher: use R33D3M33R advice14:43
econdudeawesometik I'm pretty sure it's grub, but that's out of my element14:44
k0ralaeon-ltd: I mounted it by "mount -t debugfs -o rw none /sys/kernel/debug" as root14:44
monsoonohir: no. what if the current kernel doesnt work properly? he would have nothing to revert to. but you can edit the grub.cfg to have 2 working kernels, and remove all those memtest ones. that's what i do14:44
jeb_hello14:44
tikecondudeawesome: same14:44
windows7ubuntu sucks14:44
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Dreaming终于我回来了14:44
jeb_I have some bad behaviour on my xubuntu machine14:45
windows7ubuntu ccrashes14:45
abhijithwo to report bug against libwx?14:45
econdudeawesomewell I just updated the kernel too, I'll restart and see if that doesn't fix it14:45
Dreaming不是密码记错了,是名字错了14:45
tikecanto: okz14:45
monsoonDreaming: is that japanese or korean?14:45
USGIshimurait's Asian14:45
monsoonasian, lol14:45
ravenLVM how to ACTIVATE an INACTIVE volume group?14:45
pyTopherohir: I will14:45
abhijit!en | Dreaming14:45
ubottuDreaming: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat14:45
jeb_I use evince to open pdf files. now since a while, the window that apears when starting evince has exactly the size of my screen, but the top left corner is located in the middle of the screen14:45
tikraven: heh14:45
Dreamingsorry, this is chinese :-(14:46
ohirmonsoon: he already has new kernel working. If someone is enough linux-proficient to get back to older kernel one will not ask such question.14:46
jeb_therefore I's mostly out of screen. I can resize the window, but each new pdf file I open resets the position and size14:46
USGIshimuraAsian*14:46
jeb_can I change that behaviour somewhere (e.g. window manager)?14:46
k0shi want named (bind) to use hosts file before asking other dns'es, currently i have it cacheing mode that auto passes requests to other dns'es, any ideas how to do it?14:46
monsoonDreaming: okay14:46
tikraven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall might help14:46
monsoonohir: if someone is NOT linux proficient, then they will need the older kernel to go back to in teh grub menu if the new kernel doesnt work14:47
bazhang!cn | Dreaming14:47
ubottuDreaming: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk14:47
R33D3M33Romg, how can i disable the autoscroll in empathy? its awful :(14:47
tikraven: i think  you did something wrong14:47
ravenit worked until the reboot14:48
tikscrewed up fstab14:48
monsoonbut mostly all kernels that are released work :)14:48
tikskip the part about creating14:48
tikand focus on fstab14:48
USGIshimuraI'm going to join the chinese help14:48
USGIshimurasince I can't speak chinese14:48
raventik vgchange -a y activated it14:49
bazhangUSGIshimura, excuse me?14:49
monsoon.. that doesnt make any sense14:49
USGIshimurabored, lol14:49
ballbagi can speak chinese... won ton soup and all that...14:49
atolirc.freenode.net14:49
bazhangUSGIshimura, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic14:49
atoloups14:49
tikraven: sweet14:49
atolconnect14:49
bazhangatol, you are here already14:49
monsoonatol: sure are connected, bro14:49
tikI know nothing about it :P14:49
ballbagshuldnt have said anything... coulda had passwords then...14:50
Dreamingthank you ubuttu14:50
abhijithwo to report bug against libwx?14:50
aeon-ltdabhijit: launchpad.14:50
tikraven: so everything works? :P14:50
ravenhow to execute scripts at startup?14:50
Dreamingthank you bazhang14:50
abhijitaeon-ltd, hmm14:50
monsoon!bugzilla14:51
bazhangDreaming, welcome14:51
raventik yes now it works again but only manually14:51
andrewaxHi14:51
bazhang!bugs > abhijit14:51
ubottuabhijit, please see my private message14:51
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monsoonoh. that's how it works14:51
aeon-ltdabhijit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/14:51
tikravn: qrite up a quoick bash script andadd it to init.d14:51
abhijitbazhang, ok14:51
andrewaxDo you noticed what Caps lock led doesn't works at console mode in Ubuntu 10.04?14:51
raventik where is init.d?14:52
tikuhm /etc/init.d14:52
aeon-ltdandrewax: yes it does, it may be just your keyboard14:52
monsoonandrewax: it works fine. my password has caps locks usage in it14:52
tikit has start up scripts14:52
tikor you could add it to rc.local14:52
ravenand where to add it in init.d?14:53
tikyou dont14:53
tikyou create a bash script first14:53
Q_Continuum10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?14:53
tikand put the file in that dir14:53
tikcause it runs as root14:53
topher_R33D33M3R: thanks for the help14:53
tikbash scripts work  like this: 1st line #!bin/bash 2nd line commands you would normallytype14:54
tikect14:54
R33D3M33Rtopher_: no problem14:54
tikeach command gets a seperate line14:54
tikif you type the commands im PMI will tell you how to make it14:55
kishajosÜdv.14:55
noahirHave ubuntu something like daemons ?14:56
noahirwhere i can add program14:56
noahirand when system got restart14:56
noahirit will start at boot14:56
FloodBot1noahir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:56
tiknoahir: init.d14:56
mkanyicynoahir, /etc/init.d14:56
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noahirwhat there ?14:56
noahirconf ?14:56
noahirisnt there14:56
tikyou have to create a script14:56
soreauabhijit: Were you able to try it?14:57
noahirtor is default ?14:57
noahirok14:57
noahirsemms like is14:57
tikecondudeawesome: any luck?14:57
raventik script file is now : "#!bin/bash ///////////////   vgchange -a y && mount -t ext3 /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home"14:57
abhijitsoreau, now i am in admin account. now i have submiting bugs against that two 'wx' libraries.14:57
tikraven: ok14:57
tikwhats the //////14:57
red2kicraven: vgchange -ay :)14:57
econdudeawesometik, and for the log, to fix the issue I update my kernel, rebooted, ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and sudo update-grub14:58
jeb_just want to check back: have you guys not seen my question or does currently noone know the answer?14:58
tikand each command goes on a seperate line14:58
econdudeawesometik I may have those commands backwars--let me check14:58
mkanyicyraven, is the -t option for mount still needed?14:58
raventik ok14:58
econdudeawesometik no thats right14:58
ravenmkanyicy, not really14:58
tikecondudeawesome: sweet.. props14:58
econdudeawesometik it worked for the moment, we'll see if it's a permanent fix14:58
tikim sure it is14:59
econdudeawesomeI think the issue was the un-updated kernel with the nvidia driver14:59
tikzzzz stll compiling14:59
tikmine worked fine :P14:59
econdudeawesometik adios!14:59
tiklater14:59
raventik so you mean new line at &&?14:59
tikno && is fine14:59
tiknew line = when you wold hit enter in console14:59
tikwould14:59
raventik ok how to enter it in init.d now?15:00
tikupdate-rc.d scriptname defualts15:00
tiker15:00
tikdefults15:00
tiker15:00
FloodBot1tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:00
tikdefaults15:00
tikhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa15:01
Utrinqueparatusi have no keyboard and mouse connected is there a way to enable remote desktop?15:01
raventik?15:01
UberN00bhey there i tried installing checkgmail and i got that output "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)" mmm nay thoughts on that ?15:02
Agiofwshello15:03
ZykoticK9UberN00b, close any Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Cetner windows, then try again.15:03
Agiofwswould it be wise to to paste this source list into ubuntu 10.4 sources list http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/  ?15:03
ZykoticK9UberN00b, or install using sudo?15:03
Agiofwswhere can i find the right analogy ?15:03
UberN00bZykotick9 thatnks, sudo worked :)15:04
ZykoticK9Agiofws, do NOT paste that sources list!  it's for dapper so very old.15:05
amateurit's too many people....15:05
AgiofwsZykoticK9,   where can i find the right  one please ?15:05
tikhi15:05
Agiofwsdo i just change the dapper to the right word ?15:05
amateurtik: hello~15:05
tikraven: sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults15:06
tikjust change the scriptname15:06
raventik ok... i now entered it to boot15:06
tikok15:07
tikit will run on next reboot15:07
dshbusinessHello everyone. Please help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!15:07
Agiofwshttp://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/   where can i find the right sources list ? for ubuntu 10.4 ?15:07
wildlappyhow do I stop my screen dimming when not touched for about 5 mins, trying to watch a film on the lappy (running netbook remix)15:07
ZykoticK9Agiofws, i wouldn't, i doubt you will need those repos now (but i could be wrong, I don't use any of that software), but I'd guess it's all in the default repo, just try all the "apt-get install stuff" lines.  good luck15:07
Agiofwsok15:07
tikAgiofws: cracking WEP is lame15:07
dshbusinessAt first I installed ubuntu 10.0415:08
dshbusinessI encrpted my /home15:08
tikpay for your internet access15:08
dshbusinessHowever, now, when I reinstalled OS. I just can't visit my home15:08
dshbusinessCan someone tell me how to deal with this situation?15:08
ikoniadshbusiness: you will have lost your encyption key with the install15:09
tikdshbusiness: better off doing a fresh install15:09
dshbusinessBut now, How can I rescue my data?15:09
ikoniadshbusiness: you've lost your encyption key15:10
tikgl trying :(15:10
Utrinqueparatusis there a gconf command for removing password required for remote desktop?15:10
Monkey_Dustfolx, I'm using irssi and need to know the ubuntu chatnet for the config file15:10
tikUtrinqueparatus: pretty secure...15:10
ZykoticK9dshbusiness, :o  i hope you didn't have anything important in your home directory.  best of luck man, i think you'll need it.  (i "doubt," but certainly don't "know" for sure, you'll get anything back)15:11
dshbusinessikonia: Can I rescue my data on /home? They are important.15:11
Utrinqueparatusits only a 2 minute solution15:11
ikoniadshbusiness: I don't know/believe how to as you'll have lost your encyption key15:11
Utrinqueparatusi will be disabling remote dekstop straight after15:11
tikso why not just use the passwd?15:11
Utrinqueparatusi have no keyboard or mouse and need to change something in gui15:11
Utrinqueparatuscos i cant remember what i set it as15:11
ohirdshbusiness: unless you have your home partition backuped bit by bit (with dd) you have lost this data15:11
ikoniatik: they key will have changed, can he simpley use a password without the key that was used ?15:12
tikmaybe15:12
tikidk15:12
ohirdshbusiness: encryption is exactly for that - so anyone, including you, can not acces data if one has no key15:12
dshbusinessikonia: Thanks.15:12
tiki never encrypt15:12
spookydshbusiness: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory15:12
lunganHaving som anoying sound, like a big beeep when i for example press ctrl+f and write a word in firefox thats not on the site, or if I press backspace in chatwindow when already at start?15:12
ballbagutrinqueparatus, afaik all auth stuff is policykit and you need to edit xml files15:13
nullkuhlwhat is the name of the latest ubuntu's distro ?15:13
soreau! lucid | nullkuhl15:14
ubottunullkuhl: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/100415:14
jribnullkuhl: ubuntu is the name of the latest ubuntu distro... the latest release is lucid lynx15:14
tikshower time15:14
tikbbl15:14
abhijithmm15:15
adityagi want to remove TCP/IP stack from my kernel & reinstall it. Any solutions?15:15
oCean_tik: there is no need to announce away/afk/showertime15:15
jribadityag: out of curiousity, why do you want to do that?15:15
dshbusinessohir: I think I know the password if I have set it.15:15
tikocean relax15:15
oCean_tik: ?15:16
jribtik: he's just letting you know for the future15:16
dshbusinessohir: but what should I do?15:16
ohirdshbusiness: so you have a key :)15:16
tikoh ok15:16
tikit wa an amsg15:16
tikwas15:16
adityagjrib: its an assignment given to us in college15:16
jribadityag: k15:17
ohirdshbusiness: follow HOWTO you have been given. (Manual mount)15:17
jrib!kernel > adityag15:17
ubottuadityag, please see my private message15:17
ballbagwhy would one person going for a shower affect another's life?..15:17
adityagjrib: any solutions... ok'15:17
ikoniaballbag: that's nothing to do with ubuntu, please drop it15:17
ikonia!topic > ballbag15:17
ubottuballbag, please see my private message15:17
dshbusinessohir: Thanks, I will try it.15:17
mrkikoHi all! I noticed that the ubuntu kernels can find partitions based on UUID while my own ones don't. Where can i find the adequatepatch? (if there is one)15:18
ballbagjeez, you cant even state the obvious without being bitched at...15:18
jrib!kernel > mrkiko15:18
ikoniaballbag: drop it15:18
ubottumrkiko, please see my private message15:18
dshbusinessohir: well... Something is different... When I created that partition, my system is ubuntu. But now, it is fedora. Must I install a ubuntu again?15:19
ballbagikonia is a mini hitler15:20
ohirdshbusiness: I do not know fedora enough to give you answer. In theory they should use same techniqe as ubuntu does.15:20
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dshbusinessohir: Thank you. Let me try.15:21
terryAny cd/dvd image creating software for ubuntu?15:21
ohirdshbusiness: find similar HOWTO in fedora docs and compare by self.15:21
bazhangterry, k9copy15:22
terryDoes it mount images?15:22
dshbusinessohir: OK15:22
oCean_terry: mount? or burn15:22
terryMount!15:22
ikoniaterry: you manually mount images15:22
bazhang!iso > terry15:23
ubottuterry, please see my private message15:23
ixbidiejoin #beagle15:23
ZykoticK9terry, the iso command bazhang just sent "should" work on any linux15:23
ikonia_is_a_cockthe joys of dhcp...15:24
Agiofwsapt-get install linux-headers  why wont 10.04  accept that command15:24
terryHow to make an iso file?15:24
nordleHi there, just used the usb-creator-gtk as have  pc without cdrom drive.  However, when booting the usb stick, it stops at "SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian  boot:"  Has anyone tried this?15:24
edbianAgiofws, What is it saying?15:24
terryWith what software?15:24
kishajoshi everyone:)15:25
Agiofwsit says something about  linux headers specific  package15:25
ikoniaterry: mkisofs15:25
oCean_terry: mkisofs15:25
Agiofwsedbian,  ?15:25
kishajoshow can i see the room list ?15:25
edbianAgiofws, What's the error exactly.  Can you pastebin it?15:25
ikoniakishajos: depends on your client15:25
erUSULAgiofws: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »  ?15:26
ixbidiesuch einfach deine kernelnummer :P15:26
edbiantry /USERLIST15:26
cannonballI seeking help with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error.. Please, Thanks15:26
edbiancannonball, What are you trying to do that is giving that error?15:26
kishajosre15:26
edbiancannonball, does /dev/sda1 show up in the output of sudo fdisk -l15:27
cannonballboot15:27
edbian??15:27
kishajosso i'm using Xchat Gnome:)15:27
AgiofwserUSUL,   thank you15:27
ixbidiethere should be a number on the bottom left15:27
edbiancannonball, Oh, you're moved your partitions around?  You probably need to boot a live CD and edit your /etc/fstab.15:27
ixbidiewith the number of users15:27
oCean_!who | ixbidie15:27
ubottuixbidie: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:27
ixbidie!tab15:28
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:28
ixbidie...15:28
Utrinqueparatustyp utri then press tab15:28
mrkikook15:28
mrkikobut I can't understand where ubuntu specific patches are... :)15:29
kishajos!tab15:30
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:30
kishajosIs there anyone who play games on Linux?:)15:30
soreaukishajos: sure15:30
ixbidiekishajos, sure :P15:30
kishajosI want to play Counter-Strike, or something like that15:31
ixbidiekishajos, for that, u have to emulate windows.15:31
arc01kishajos, you'd probably first need Wine and then install CS15:31
kishajosbut CS is only for Win15:31
ixbidiekishajos, Wine emulates windows and than it's no prob15:31
soreau! games | kishajos15:32
ubottukishajos: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php15:32
ixbidiekishajos, http://www.winehq.org/15:32
kishajosOoh, and it doesn't will be very slow?15:32
arc01ixbidie, true. however there's no guarantee after all that it'll run. (warcraft didnt for me :( )15:32
spookykishajos: I play WoW on Ubuntu using wine...plays just fine!15:32
kishajosThank you for the links:D15:32
kishajosand the helps15:32
kishajos:)15:32
geirhakishajos: http://appdb.winehq.org/  counter strike: source is listed under top 10 platinum. That's good news ;)15:32
kishajosi will watch these links15:33
ixbidiekishajos, Yeah, Wow is the only game i tried witth wine, but it15:33
ixbidie..s no garantue ..15:33
nchandI had better performance playing WoW under wine actually15:33
kishajosoh:)15:33
nchandthan in windows15:33
spookyI have to play it in Windows-mode though :-x15:33
dark-PrincEmay i ask , why i cant extract xampp-linux-1.7.3a.tar.gz completely. it always return these errors15:33
dark-PrincEgzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error15:33
dark-PrincElampp/var/perl/15:33
dark-PrincElampp/var/perl/cpan/15:33
dark-PrincElampp/var/perl/cpanplus/15:33
dark-PrincElampp/RELEASENOTES15:33
FloodBot1dark-PrincE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:33
pyTophernordle: I just used usb-creator-gtk with a linux mint iso and it booted fine on my spare computer, maybe try remaking the usb15:33
spookydark-PrincE: Sound slike the archive is corrupt15:34
bazhang!xampp > dark-PrincE15:34
ubottudark-PrincE, please see my private message15:34
spookyre-download15:34
Traveler7Hi! How can I use my pendrive from ubuntu? /var/log/messages shows the new usb device, but after the usb-storage don't show the partitions.15:34
roydudeHey folks,  I've outgrown 2TB disks... I want to cluster disks together, but I want expandability that Raid 5 doesn't offer (stuck to identical disk sizes).  Anyone have any tips?  Besides the Drobo?  I'm thinking of a DYI box.15:35
ixbidieTraveler7, whats a pendrive?15:35
sam8ixbidie pendrive alias usb drive15:35
nordlepyTopher:  Thats exactly what I'm trying, ie mint :)   I think its a perms thing.  Did yours create the files using user:group from your install rather than root:root etc  As it wont see casper/vmlinux  but its there.  And I can't change the perms back.15:35
pippo_we15:35
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FloodBot1pippo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:35
erUSULroydude: lvm ?15:35
nchandroydude: LVM?15:36
roydudeGoogling LVM15:36
kishajosAnd what do you think of PlayOnLinux? It seems like Wine15:36
Utrinqueparatusits a rip of cedega15:36
pippo_WE15:36
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pippo_WE15:36
pippo_WE15:36
dark-PrincEspooky ; i have redownloaded it four times15:36
pippo_WE15:36
rkennedAnyone have any idea why a wifi card wouldn't work in Pinguy (based on Ubuntu 10.04), but it would work fine in Ubuntu 10.04 while using the same driver?15:36
pippo_WE15:36
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pippo_WE15:36
oCean_pippo_: stop please15:36
pippo_WE15:36
dark-PrincEand it always return the same error15:36
pippo_WE15:36
pippo_WE15:36
nchandkishajos: Just use wine, all these other places that charge are just using a wine base anyway15:36
edbianrkenned, Perhaps the driver has been updated...15:36
ixbidieTraveler7, have a look on /dev15:37
kishajosokay, thanks nchand15:37
kishajosI will install it :)15:37
pyTophernordle: it made the files with my user permissions, did you use sudo?15:37
kishajosSorry for my bad english, but i'm only 14 years old:D15:37
roydudeerUSUL: nchand:  does it features redundancy?  in case a drive fails that I can swap drives?15:37
rkennedI'll take a look, I think its the exact same version number on the drivers though15:37
nchandkishajos: get wintricks as well, just google the steps, super easy15:37
Traveler7ixbidie: Simple usb-stick. Should be recognized as sd device.15:37
tikany ideas on how to get a joystick working in wine?15:37
ixbidieTraveler7, with what program du u try do access?15:38
oCean_Traveler7: immediately after plugin, what does 'dmesg' output?15:38
erUSULroydude: lvm has different "modes" some of them mapt to raid modes ( stripping; mirror etc ... )15:38
dark-PrincEmay i ask , why i cant extract xampp-linux-1.7.3a.tar.gz completely. it always return these errors15:38
nchandroydude: I've just used lvm on top of raids for work15:39
dark-PrincEgzip stdin ; invalid compresoon data - crc error15:39
jribdark-PrincE: don't use xampp...15:39
bazhang!xampp | dark-PrincE15:39
ixbidiedark-PrincE, Why do u want to use xampp?15:39
ubottudark-PrincE: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.15:39
nordlepyTopher:  I did not  sudo, I got my user perms too.....weird.  I will  try again.  Maybe try Fat16 not Fat32.....clutching at straws.  It's a 1GB stick and linuxmint 9 lxde is circa 570mb.15:39
jrib!lamp > dark-PrincE15:39
ubottudark-PrincE, please see my private message15:39
oCean_dark-PrincE: no you cannot ask here15:39
ixbidiedark-PrincE, lol, mass attack on dark-prince :P15:39
dark-PrincEowh , okay. im sorry15:40
dark-PrincEno no , doont attack me. im new here15:40
dark-PrincE:)15:40
dark-PrincEso i dont know15:40
* hamitron fluffles dark-PrincE15:40
janossome people can helpme with grub ubuntu10.0415:40
ixbidiedark-PrincE, not ment evil, but as u can see nobody here likes to use XAMPP :P15:40
ixbidiedark-PrincE, And on GNU/Linux u really don'tr have to15:40
abhijit!ask | janos15:40
ubottujanos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:40
ixbidiejanos, What do u need?15:41
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dark-PrincEixbidie : have any replacement for xampp?15:41
bodomHello,15:41
bodomI'm trying to set up NIS server but service NIS start hangs on startup. I'm following this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo15:41
dark-PrincEi kinda need it15:41
jribdark-PrincE: the bot just gave it to you, at least two times15:41
oCean_dark-PrincE: read the message15:41
ixbidiedark-PrincE, mysql-server, apache2, proftp15:41
ixbidiedark-PrincE, and LAMP :PÜ15:42
pyTophernordle: you said it wont find casper/vmlinux?  the file I have  is casper/vmlinuz15:42
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean: The kernel can not recognize it. /var/log/messages shows ehci messages, "new speed USB device,. ..".15:42
ixbidiedark-PrincE, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP15:42
dark-PrincEoh , i see then. thanks ixbidie15:42
raventik tnx for your help15:43
raventik its working again ;)15:43
Xaifassshd_config edited/ hosts_allow edited/ iptables flushed/ no firewall / port is open/ sshd is running/ YET i get connection time out when i try to connect. Any ideas?15:43
Xaifasfor openssh server that is15:43
ManDayAfter installing Ubuntu and partitioning with Ubuntu I get     FATA ERROR: Bad primary partition X: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder     on all my disks - Did ubuntu screw my disks??!15:43
nordlepyTopher:  Thanks for checking, sorry, typo on my part.  Did you tell usb-creator-gtk to "discard changes" or "allocate xxxmb to changes"?  I'm trying again with discard.15:43
jribXaifas: router?15:44
ixbidieTraveler7, ignoring that fact, just try to mount per console manualy15:44
CAPcapalright so ive been having a lot of problems with my panels recently. is this a common problem with 10.04? maybe its just my old computer? or maybe my panels have some corrupted files? they load incorrectly the majority of the time. sometimes its just like a little white bar - something that doesnt effect function, but sometimes the applets load in the wrong spot, dont load at all, load with the wrong settings, or load on top of another15:44
CAPcapso that i cant get to the one under it.15:44
XaifasHm, what exactly should I tweak on my router, need to do forwarding?15:45
ixbidieTraveler7, often, it return messages much more useful to u15:45
jribXaifas: for one, yeah.  Can you connect locally?15:45
Xaifaslocally yes15:45
jribXaifas: "ssh localhost" i mean15:45
pyTophernordle: no those options were greyed out15:45
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean: Curious, that now it recognizes the pendrive..., Usually after bootup it doesn't work.15:45
bodomanybody?15:45
Xaifasfrom any other box I can't, guess i'll look into forwarding15:46
oCean_Traveler7: weird.. maybe the re-connect solved the issue15:46
ManDayAfter installing Ubuntu and partitioning with Ubuntu I get     FATA ERROR: Bad primary partition X: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder     on all my disks - Did ubuntu screw my disks??!15:46
ManDaydoes it work for you?15:46
grkbloodwhat is a video editing tool that i can use to slow down certain frames of a video files15:46
jribXaifas: yes, if there's a router in between, you need to forward to the server15:46
grkbloodfile*15:46
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean: When it works, /var/log/messages seems the partitions, and nautilus opens the drive automatically. After bootup (when doesn't work) it knows the usb device, but not the partitions, etc.15:46
ixbidieTraveler7, i hate runtime system cahcnges -.-15:47
dark-PrincEgrkblood : avidemux maybe?15:47
grkblooddark-PrincE, i dont think avidemux can do that15:48
wedwoin synaptic, what's the difference between *Remove and *Remove Completely?15:48
CAPcapwedwo remove completely removes all associated configuration files15:48
CAPcapwedwo and i believe it also removes all associated files that no other program is dependent on.15:49
nordlepyTopher:  greyed out.  wtf.  I luv computers :)    damnit, same result.   I even used gparted to destroy and start again.  AND told usb-creator-gtk to "erase the disk".  The files are there, the boot loader is on the stick, it loads syslinux.  It just wont see the kernel image "Could  not find kernel image: casper/vmlinuz"15:49
wedwoCAPcap, so *Remove doesn't remove dependencies?15:49
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean_: I hate it too. I don't know, why is this. Maybe uhci driver gets to work later. Is it required?15:50
* guampa can't believe he has been using pidgin instead of kvirc all this time for irc'ing15:50
CAPcapwedwo, remove just removes that one item. and possibly anything that will break if you remove it15:50
CAPcapthat second bit im not sure about15:50
wedwoCAPcap, Gotit, thanks muchly15:50
oCean_Traveler7: I really have no clue, sorry.15:50
nordlepyTopher: I know the linuxmint lxde cd ISO is ok too because I've booted it under VirtualBox.15:51
CAPcapwedwo youbetcha15:51
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean_: I try a reboot, maybe I will have more data. It's really weird.. Thanx the help.15:51
olskolircquit15:51
CAPcapalright so ive been having a lot of problems with my panels recently. is this a common problem with 10.04? maybe its just my old computer? or maybe my panels have some corrupted files? they load incorrectly the majority of the time. sometimes its just like a little white bar - something that doesnt effect function, but sometimes the applets load in the wrong spot, dont load at all, load with the wrong settings, or load on top of another15:52
CAPcapso that i cant get to the one under it.15:52
pyTophernordle: i'm stumped.  I'm new to Linux and i've been trying lots of different distros15:52
pyTophernordle: sorry I couldn't help15:52
nchandbodom: it hangs when you start it from /etc/init.d?15:53
gNewPowerHi, sometimes in 10.04 X goes fails.  What is the easiest way to restart it from the CLI. Thanks.15:53
guampaCAPcap: hae you tried resetting gpanels config?15:53
CAPcapguampa, how do i do that?15:53
ringtenniswm8Hey ho :)15:53
nordlepyTopher:  Cheers mate, appreciate the replies, at least I know it _should_ work.  I'll keep trying.  I'll also try other distros and maybe on another PC just in case its something freaky.15:53
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bodomnchand: yes, hangs on "Binding to YP server..."15:54
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pyTophernordle: good luck15:55
guampacapcap: try this in a terminal "rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel"15:56
nchandbodom: and does it work when your server normally starts? Or does it hang there also?15:56
bodomnchand: do you mean on reboot?15:57
nchandbodom: correct15:57
bodomnchand: no, it does the same15:57
skumara!paste skumara15:58
nchandbodom: it sounds very similar to an issue someone was talking about not long ago, im trying to find info mate.15:58
bodomnchand: ty15:59
cannonballanyone able to help me with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error? please, thanks16:00
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Traveler7Hi! I captured the /var/log/messages: http://pastebin.org/436210 That's all, when I plug-in my pendrive into the up-to-date ubuntu desktop.16:01
skumarajust now ubuntu did not detect my wireless and bradband. I some how fixed the wireless. see pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/471495/  now how to fix my broadband?16:01
hamitronnothing wrong with pidgin ;)16:02
oCean_Traveler7: I plugged an usbkey in, and saw that usb_storage gets loaded. That's the one not loaded at boottime. Try adding usb_storage in /etc/modules16:02
martianixorAudio suddenly stopped, where to look?16:02
martianixorwhat info is needed?16:02
cannonballanyone able to help me with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error? please, thanks16:03
Mike_Flip79anyone know a good virus scanner that can scan my winxp partition16:03
hamitronclamav16:04
IdleOne!clamav16:04
IdleOne!virus16:04
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus16:04
martianixorsnd-ac97xx is loaded ... lspci -vvvv lists the audio devices16:04
iceman_hello16:04
c3lhow can I find y computers external IP without logging in?16:04
MisterK85Hi everyone. I have a stack of movies (.avi/.mpg) and I'm trying to make them smaller (they're around 700MB each and I want them around 350-400MB), any ideas on what I should use?16:04
picard1421hey, ok so im having a problem... sometimes when i bootup and login.. i get the promting to do face authenticatino.. Other times when i boot up,, i dont get any prompts and X crashes and goes to CLI???16:04
picard1421http://pastebin.com/NW0nHvSz16:04
martianixortried to restart alsa using alsa-utils restart/reload/reset16:05
Traveler7oCean_: I've tried to load it by hand, and it worked.16:05
picard1421that is my KDM config file... and like i said sometimes it works fine.. sometimes it doesnt at all... is there something im doing wrong???16:05
skumarahi. my hwawei modem was working last week. now it is not working anymore. ?16:05
oCean_Traveler7: adding to /etc/modules will load it at boottime. Then it should be available after (re)boot16:05
Traveler7oCean_: Don't you know, what loaded the module sometimes? During runtime!16:05
martianixorthanks anyway16:05
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ixbidieTraveler7, Maybe nautilus itself ... :P16:06
iceman_hi16:06
th_hi all16:06
c3lhow can I find y computers IP without logging in?16:06
vbnmhi16:06
tikifconfig16:06
vbnmmn16:07
tikor some screenlets widgets16:07
vbnmrough16:07
th_im doing dual screen with ati. everything works perfect. should I use xinerama or atis own system?16:07
Traveler7ixibide: I think when I plug-in a pendrive, the kernel identifies it as an usb device, after it loads the appropriate drive (i.e. usb-storage), after nautilus recognizes this...16:07
Traveler7ixibide, oCean: I only don't know, why doesn't usb-storage loaded automatically?16:07
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picard1421???16:08
oCean_Traveler7: I don't know either. Add 'usb_storage' to /etc/modules should fix the problem16:08
ixbidieTraveler7, oCean_: How can i add a usb storrage by hand in the /etc/modules?16:08
martianixorsyslog is full of pulseaudio16:08
nchandbodom: Try http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=118023 as a start. There was more to it, but I can't seem to locate the link16:09
Traveler7ixibide, oCean_: If I put usb-storage to /etc/modules; will it cause some extra careful during upgrades?16:09
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oCean_ixbidie: Traveler7 it's just a plain text file16:09
ixbidieTraveler7, oCean_: Just -> cat >> /etc/modules?16:09
oCean_Traveler7: it's usb_storage (underscore!)16:09
oCean_ixbidie: edit the file in your favorite texteditor (vi, nano, gedit)16:09
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bodomnchand: the link doesn't open :(16:09
ixbidieoCean_, ah, okay got it16:09
th_is the Transmission the best torrent client for a linux?16:09
ixbidieoCean_, joe M(16:09
notmec3l: what do you mean?16:09
Traveler7ixibide, oCean_: echo "usb-storage" >> /etc/modules :) Will an upgrade owerwrite the file?16:10
oCean_th_ there is no 'best'16:10
IdleOne!best | th_16:10
ubottuth_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:10
nchandbodom: check Debian bugs 11802316:10
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janossome people can help with the busybox problem "!alert /deV/uu-id does not exist!"16:10
ixbidieTraveler7, Don't know, just edit it wit htexteditor :P16:10
oCean_Traveler7: mind you: it is usb_storage *underscore* !!16:10
picard1421also whats the difference between making a flashdrive a LIVE CD or making it a Bootable harddrive??? im not sure which direction to go?16:10
th_oCean_ ubottu I have faced some bugs.16:10
c3lnotme: my computer is not where I am, and I want to connect to it via SSH, to do that I need its IP, and I dont want to give my login credentials to the person at the computer16:10
k0shhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/BBk/ \o/ ubuntu is so awesome i cant stop having fun with it :)16:11
Traveler7oCean_: I don't think it matters that - or _ ,but thanks the info, I'll use this.16:11
skumarawhen i lsusb i can see my modem but i dont see modem in connection list. why?16:11
vbnmvlc from where16:11
Mike_Flip79I heard clam av has a low hitrate from Apachez @ ##security16:11
vbnmnchand hiiiii16:12
vbnm#wikipedia16:12
nchandbodom: probably not a fix, but should get you started in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more help, I just remember seeing it not long back16:12
notmec3l: is it in you lan? or over wan16:12
vbnmhi16:12
FloodBot1vbnm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:12
bodomnchand: I'm checking it, ty for help16:12
TniffocWhy would I be getting invalid mount option while trying to mount an NTFS file system via the GUI16:12
Tniffoc?16:12
th_k0sh, where the hell do you live?16:12
k0shth_: poland :)16:12
oCean_th_ please mind your language here16:13
th_k0sh, okay... it gets dark pretty early16:13
th_oCean_, what do you mean?16:13
TniffocoCean_, Quite honestly, hell is fairly widely accepted. Other curses I could understand but that could be a bit excessive16:14
ixbidieth_: he means "hell" i guess :PÜ16:14
IdleOneth_: Please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like chatting, #ubuntu is for support discussion16:14
th_okay okay :(16:14
IdleOnethank you16:14
oCean_Tniffoc: that is besides the point. Also, not up for discussion in this channel.16:14
Traveler7ixbidie, oCean_: Thanks the help! I do a reboot to test it.16:15
th_actually I have one Q not answered: I have a dual screen setup with ATI video card. Should I use the xinerama or not? It works perfectly at both ways16:16
IdleOneth_: if it aint broke....16:16
c3lnotme: I have another computer which I do have acces to, which is located on lan with th other computer, so I do have both lan and wan (if I knew the ip) access16:17
picard1421so guys wahts the advantage of booting a LiveCD vs.. booting up like installing it like a harddrive for a usb drive??16:17
Tniffocpicard1421, hard drive install is faster and it has a filesyste16:17
Tniffocm16:17
picard1421even on USB drive?16:18
ixbidiepicard1421, much faster?16:18
Tniffocpicard1421, especially on a USB drive.16:18
picard1421how would i go about setting up a filesystem/ harddrive setup on a usb drive16:18
th_IdleOne, yes thats wise. xinerama is running now but i hate running inappropriate apps16:18
magicianlordpicard1421: yes, hard drive or solid state drive is faster than usb. although, it is possible to install ubuntu to usb. i have ran it.16:18
notmec3l: i just ask you if it's in your lan because then you can know it's ip by using a netscanner16:18
Tniffocpicard1421, well you would just mount your filesystem of choice on boot16:18
Tniffocor chroot it16:18
_pg_!mintsupport16:18
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:18
kishajoshello again16:18
kishajosi've got a problem16:19
kishajosI installed Wine16:19
magicianlordpicard1421: you install to the usb drive, then select advanced during the boot loader screen and select /dev/sdb, to install boot loader to the drive instead16:19
Tniffockishajos, theres your issue. ;D16:19
th_btw Internet told me that Gnome should support 2 different wallpapers for 2 screens. But I cant figure out how :S16:19
ixbidiekishajos, what went wrong?16:19
kishajosI Can't open any file with Wine16:19
Tniffocmondragon, your name sounds familiar. Where do you live?16:19
kishajosI get a Wrong message16:19
kishajosi tried Steam installer16:19
kishajosand i tried the CD16:20
ixbidiekishajos, Did u configured Wine ?16:20
kishajosno16:20
c3lnotme: tell me more! :)16:20
Tniffockishajos, Try running notepad.exe first. And make sure to check WineHQ before running more complex programs16:20
picard1421hmm16:20
picard1421wont it give me an option for GRUB bootloader?16:20
th_Internet told me that Gnome should support 2 different wallpapers for 2 screens. But I cant figure out how :S16:21
Tniffocpicard1421, Ubuntu automatically uses GRUB2 as its bootlaoder when you install16:21
nordlepyTopher:  joy :)  Tried a diferent ISO and it worked.  I went back to check the iso and while its called "i386", the properties say AMD64.  So looks like the iso is the wrong one.16:21
notmec3l: just install nmap, menawhile figure out your own ip and netmask, with those you can determine the netblock to scan16:21
picard1421so when its installing grub or partitioning HD's16:21
picard1421where is this secret menu16:21
Tniffocpicard1421, What secret menu...16:21
notmec3l: then you scan the netblock looking for the tcp port you want, which i assume is 2216:21
pyTophernordle: hooray!16:21
picard1421what am i Configing to make the USB drive bootable16:21
kishajosNotepad works16:21
Doonzhey guys can someone point me to a how-to on how to use multiple byobu sessions together16:21
kishajos:D16:22
magicianlordpicard1421: after the installer finishes, it will ask you to confirm where to install the boot loader16:22
picard1421ok..16:22
magicianlordyou should select advanced16:22
magicianlordthen select the usb drive, not the local hard drive of your machien16:22
picard1421so when its asking about the GRUB16:23
magicianlordbe aware that installing to a usb drive will normally take a long time16:23
magicianlordyes, GRUB16:23
picard1421how about booting off hte usb drive?  i understand install will be a pain?16:23
vivek243hellow everyone....16:23
picard1421actual use off usb drive16:23
magicianlordthe install is not a pain. you just have to put the boot loader on the usb drive instead16:23
vivek243happy friendship day..16:23
skumarawhat is ttyusb0 command for?16:24
c3lnotme: is netmask this: Mask:255.255.240.0 ?16:24
magicianlordbooting off it, you have to select to boot from a usb drive while your computer boots. this is usually done by pressing a function key, like F10 to bring up a menu that allows you to boot from the local hard drive, from cd, or usb, etc.16:24
notmeyes16:24
grzesagHi I am ruuning web server on my ubuntu server. How I can see if someone is connected to my box please?16:24
adityagi am installing adobe flash builder on 10.04& the installation requires eclipse root folder. i cant locate the root folder. can any one help me pls16:24
rlankfogrzesag: connected via http?16:24
notmec3l, "ip r" gives the best output16:25
vivek243adityag do u have eclipse?16:25
grzesagrlankfo: yes or in generall16:25
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rlankfogrzesag: netstat -a | more16:25
adityagvivek243: i just installed from synaptic16:25
vivek243ok start it..16:25
c3lnotme: oh thanks16:25
adityagstarted16:25
vivek243adityag u will get the option to locate the workspace folder...16:26
notmec3l: it'l pray some like "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/mmm"16:26
adityag vivek243: yes, but i need a root folder, thats a local user folder'16:26
bodomnchand: solved! I've missed to run /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m16:26
notmejust write down that string (look for the line where "dev" is your net device that's connected to the network)16:27
vivek243adityag ok...i got ur point..16:27
adityagvivek243: i have to install flash builder as a plugin in Eclipse.16:27
vivek243adityag sorry but ii have no solution....so sorry..16:27
adityagi am installing adobe flash builder on 10.04 as a pulgin in Eclipse & the installation requires eclipse root folder. i cant locate the root folder. can any one help me pls16:28
guestsudo bash  ?16:28
jpdsguest: sudo -i16:29
notmec3l: how did it went?16:29
vivek243adityag locate to /var/cache/apt/archive16:29
vivek243adityag i think it will do.16:29
cannonballcan anyone help me with a "/dev/sda1 does not exist" error please, thanks16:29
magicianlordcannonball: what16:30
dshbusinessohir: I have mount my /home successfully. Thank you very much!16:30
cannonballthats what I get when trying to boot ubuntu16:30
guestadityag: find eclipse /16:30
magicianlordcannonball: reinstall grub to /dev/sda using live cd16:31
Fernandoshi16:31
Fernandosubuntu asks me for the wifi password altough it is correct. I can't go online with wifi. Why???16:31
th_Fernandos, wrong pass?16:31
rsvpis having grub on a separate partition REALLY necessary? if so what are the advantages?16:32
Fernandosno it's absolutely correct16:32
FernandosI triple checked that16:32
th_is the encryption correct?16:32
c3lnotme: im getting two lines of that kind: 83.226.xxx.x/20 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 83.226.secret.xx  metric 1 and 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 100016:32
Fernandosth_: yes I can only choose WPA+WPA2 anyway16:32
Fernandosit works in windows with the same settings16:33
deathkittenhey, this is offtopic but no one's answering in other channels and I really need some help with this, I figured this might actually be not too bad a place to ask since a lot of open source and possibly EFF supporters here... I've had a DMCA sent to me abusively to try intimidate and would like to discuss it with someone, anyone know if there's an IRC server/chan for for www.chillingeffects.org related stuff at all?16:33
notmec3l: don't worry about the second one, it's been setup by avahi-daemon for its autodiscovery mechanism16:33
rwwubottu: ot | deathkitten16:33
ubottudeathkitten: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:33
th_Fernandos, maybe try to disable the whole password thing and try if it works16:33
notmec3l: copy the other one exactly in its form, in the clipboard16:34
keystr0kAnyone here using duplicity. I want to delete old backups that are local, not no a server... just need verification on this...16:34
Fernandosth_: are you saying I shall open my wifi network to others?16:34
c3lnotme: okay, but the thing is that the computers arent getting local ips, im getting static ips for each computer from my isp. I dont have a router, only a swich16:34
th_Fernandos, yes for a while?16:34
cannonballcan anyone help me get ubuntu to boot16:34
rlankfoFernandos: temporarily16:34
rlankfoFernandos: what NIC do you have16:35
MarkSSWhy do most installers need admin privileges?16:35
notmec3l: but your isp doesn't matter, as the comps are in the same lan... at least that's what i understood16:35
rlankfoMarkSS: for example?16:35
MarkSS.bin16:35
MarkSSoops16:35
Fernandosrlankfo: how do I find that out?16:35
MarkSSI mean...16:35
c3lnotme: you mean the '83.226.144.0/20' part?16:35
MarkSSWait...does .bin need admin privileges?  I read somewhere never16:35
notmeyes16:35
b4nnd1tCannonball: what happens when you try to boot?16:35
c3lnotme: correcy, but theyre not getting a local ip, but they are on lan16:35
dshbusinessHow can I see the empty space of my u-disk via command line?16:36
rlankfoFernandos: you could open up the machine and look at the card.. lspci might give you some info16:36
notmec3l: got it, another way (if this doesn't work) it's to sniff a little onyour lan traffic16:36
ncursesc3l, i  think that\s because you are connected to the modem and the modem broadcasts your static ip's16:36
rlankfoFernandos: if you are dual booting you could use something like pcwizard in windwos16:36
notmec3l: have you installed nmap already?16:36
ixbidiedshbusiness, df16:36
Fernandosrlankfo: Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 1000 Series16:36
MarkSSI read recently on Ubuntu forums that most installers tend to need admin privileges and I am wondering why.16:36
notmencurses: i don't follow16:37
dshbusinessixbidie: Thanks!16:37
c3lnotme: yap, got nmap16:37
ixbidiedshbusiness, np16:37
guestdshbusiness: df -h16:37
spookyMarine_: Might not actually admin, but might require sudo as an extra step to prevent users from carelessly installing malicious stuff...like Microsoft's UAC16:37
spookyThat was for MarkSS...sorry16:37
martianixorOK16:38
rwwMarkSS: Umm, because they want to write to directories that aren't owned by the user, like /usr/loca/bin/ or /opt/ ?16:38
MarkSSAh!  That makes sense16:38
Fernandosrlankfo: does that help?16:38
Fernandosrlankfo: I don't know why I can't connect with wifi :(16:39
rlankfoFernandos: i had a similar problem that was specific to a broadcom NIC, so doesn't appear you are having the same problem16:39
notmec3l: minute16:39
Fernandosmaybe maybe not.. I don't know16:39
Fernandosrlankfo: how did you fix it?16:39
meLonI had public key authentication on my computer working.  I login as another local user to perform a couple of tasks.  It was working perfectly and then I played around and ultimately changed the permissions of the other user's home directory.  Now I am being prompted with a password.  I'm not 100% sure that it's a permission issue, as I believe you get an ERROR when trying to login and the keys have bad permissions, but I am looking for the s16:39
meLonolution.  Thanks16:39
MarkSS.bin installation of Google Earth's Linux installs to those directories with or without admin access though16:39
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rlankfoFernandos: ndiswrapper16:40
martianixorubottu: answered16:40
rwwMarkSS: Presumably, if it doesn't require admin access, it's installing to somewhere in your home directory16:40
Fernandosrlankfo: would you say I should install ndiswrapper ?16:40
MarkSSAre admin access and sudo access the same thing?16:40
Fernandosor are there known problems with my card?16:40
rwwMarkSS: running a command with sudo would give it root or admin access, yes16:41
ncursesmeLon, try usinf root and change the home directory ownership16:41
rlankfoFernandos: i would find out the exact card you have and check the forums16:41
meLonTy ncurses.  I will give that a try.  Going to re-submit my key first16:41
guestMarkSS: sudоеrs generally are included in admin group16:41
notmec3l: run nmap -p22 <pastehereyouraddy/netmask>16:41
rlankfoFernandos: ndiswrapper is a major p in the a as well, chances are it's not a compatability issue with your card so it probably won't help you16:41
guestMarkSS:  man sudo_root16:42
MarkSSSo, all directories outside of the home folder require admin/root access then?16:42
guestyes16:43
c3lnotme: thanks16:43
guestthat's right16:43
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magicianlordwhat is the point of using uuids in fstab vs sda?16:43
rlankfoMarkSS: not necessarily, all directories have a permission mask and are owned by a particular user/group16:43
ncursesMarkSS,  not all16:43
MaletorCan anybody help m solve this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277834-30-boot-error#t191239416:43
ncursesthey can be owned by other user/group as well16:43
MarkSSyou just lost me16:44
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duffydackmagicianlord, so can be moved without editing fstab?16:44
Mike_Flip79Fernandos: you probably have a b43xx router, also check and see if there is a switch or button to turn your card on/off and if that is working16:44
rlankfoMarkSS: http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/file-permissions_94.html16:44
duffydackmagicianlord, I dont really know any good reason16:45
notmec3l: np, give it a while and see if it gets you something, if you don't get results, you mostly can solve this by sniffing with tcpdump or wireshark, and get the ip from there (assuming you don't have many machines active in the lan)16:45
FernandosMike_Flip79: I have a FritzBox Phone Wlan 727016:45
picard1421where can i install plugins for kdm?16:45
lindsaymobil22How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but i am curious, i have tried it in Ubuntu but i got an error about intrid.img16:45
RandyRKellyHow long does it take for the first boot of Ubuntu?16:45
cannonballok cant boot from live cd. I get  a " unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, and I have checked the cd it good.. anyone help?16:45
cannonballdo I need to edit something in grub to fix this?16:46
magicianlordcannonball: burn the iso to cd, or use usb-creator to write it to flash16:46
cannonballyes did that I have a cd that has been check'd it good16:47
cpareHello all, hoping for some assistance on changing the size of the font while Ubuntu boots...16:47
cparemy font is huge :)16:47
lindsaymobil22How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but i am curious, i have tried it in Ubuntu but i got an error about intrid.img16:47
cannonballwhen I do the demo I get the above error16:47
cpareI just saw the LiveCD has it nice and small now :)16:47
MarkSSWhat uses would a normal user have for making directories owned by a particular user/group though?  Not sure if I would ever have a need for that.16:47
c3lnotme: I got about 50 results ;e16:47
rlankfoMarkSS: read the link16:47
guestMarkSS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:48
MarkSSfine fine16:48
Mike_Flip79Fernandos: check the forums16:48
wrektjethey guys. my RAM is showing at close to 80percent and Im not really doing all that much although I was last night. Is there a way to "release" and RAM that might have gotten tied up in earlier activity?16:48
notmeall they say the port is open? if it says "filtered" or "closed" they arent the one16:48
wrektjetcheck that closer to ninety16:48
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ncursesnotme,  whats your question?16:49
lindsaymobil22How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but if i try it in Ubuntu i get an error upon boot up about intrid.img, any help?16:49
MarkSSThe bottom portion of my desktop environment cannot be viewed.  I cannot see the trash icon or the windows in the taskbar down there.  Just slightly off the edge of the monitor.  I have to alt+tab to move around.  How do I fix so I can see taskbar?  Monitor autoadjust button not fixing either16:49
notmencurses: didn't get what you said about c3l's modem16:50
lindsaymobil22MarkSS change the scaling on your graphics card or chip16:50
rwwlindsaymobil22: I don't think the current stable version of Ubuntu supports btrfs roots. Ubuntu Maverick does, but it hasn't been released yet.16:50
MarkSSHow do I do that?  Do you mean resolution?16:50
cannonballok cant boot from live cd. I get  a " unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, and I have checked the cd it good.. anyone help?16:50
martianixorwrektjet: where do you get the memory usage reading?16:50
ncursesBRB guys16:51
lindsaymobil22MarkSS i only know how to do it in CCC, do you have an ATi video card?16:51
MarkSSNo idea16:51
headkase314MarkSS: preface what you say with the persons name, like me talking to you: "MarkSS: (text)"  Helps keep everything clear.16:51
c3lnotme: how come I got so many results? I guess it didnt only search on lan, so how do I find the right one most easy?16:51
MarkSSheadkase314: Ok16:51
wrektjetmartianixor, from a desktop applet and from the system monitor16:51
lindsaymobil22MarkSS you mean you dont know what video card you have?16:52
martianixorwrektjet: OK, in a terminal, use top16:52
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martianixorwrektjet: see what's eating your RAM under %MEM16:52
notmec3l: pm16:52
MarkSSI think Nvidia16:53
MarkSSYes, it is Nvidia16:53
lindsaymobil22MarkSS im not an expert with NVidia sorry :)16:53
headkase314MarkSS: Have you installed drivers for you nVidia card or are you using the built-in ones that came with Ubuntu?16:53
lindsaymobil22headkase314 +116:54
martianixorwrektjet: top is a command that you can run in a terminal16:54
MarkSSheadkase314: I got the 180 one or whatever.  The recommended one16:54
MarkSSEverything works fine other than not being able to see the taskbar16:54
itsux2bui'm thinking about setting up a LAMP server in VirtualBox with Ubuntu as the L in LAMP.   host OS is Windows Vista.  should the guest OS in my VirtualBox LAMP server be Ubuntu or Ubuntu Server?   and what is Ubuntu LTS  ?16:54
ResQuei want to see what is going on when i type make install, is there something like verbose where i can see the output in the terminal?16:55
ResQue\16:55
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MarkSSheadkase: I can fix it by going to a more lame resolution, but I hate doing that16:56
wrektjetmartianixor, basically three things are using RAM. firefox xchat python that equals about 1.8 gig yet it shows that over 3 is being used at the moment which i dont understand16:56
SweetsIs there a way to setup an IRC server with webmin?16:56
MarkSSheadkase: I just want to be able to use my optimal resolution16:56
headkase314MarkSS: I was hoping the proprietary drivers would help, but you already have them.  I'm Ati so I don't really know where to go from here.. Sorry.16:56
guestitsux2bu: Ubuntu LAMP on virtual PC Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGCyEwk39c16:56
MarkSSWhy Ati?  Is Ati better?16:56
rwwubottu: webmin16:56
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.16:56
joonaHi16:56
lindsaymobil22MarkSS not in linux no, ATi is a disaster in linux16:57
headkase314MarkSS: Ati or nVidia is preference.  nVidia people claim less problems (I never have problems with Ati) but Ati actively supports an Open-Source driver.  Comes down to personal preference.16:57
joonaAnyone know about Aipitek SlimTablet 600u mouse click lag16:57
martianixorwrektjet: you're experiencing slowliness in performance?16:57
SweetsThen is there an easy way to set up an IRC server? I'm new to linux...16:58
picard1421anyone want to help set this up with me?16:59
wrektjetmartianixor, i was earlier yes. here check this pastebin of the free -m command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471514/16:59
martianixorOK16:59
itsux2buguest, thanks but i am using Oracle's VirtualBox VM not Mivrosoft's Virtual PC product16:59
picard1421this pam face authenticaiton thing..y.. i get it to work sometimes.. sometimes it will just crash X other times it will work no probxsss16:59
picard1421also im not seeing the plugin in KDM .. how do install a plugin in KDM16:59
MisterioSweets: You need to install ircd, services and configure them16:59
guestitsux2bu: I'll find it for VirtualBox too17:00
SweetsI tried apt-get install ircd, but it didn't work...17:00
MengXingHun^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^617:00
martianixorwrektjet: not sure put try to stop whatever is using python temporarily if possible17:01
MengXingHunsudo apt-get install girlfriend17:01
martianixorhahaha17:01
martianixorMengXingHun: wouldn't that be vgirlfriend or something?17:02
MisterioMengXingHun: Do you have any ubuntu support releated question?17:02
guestitsux2bu:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOsIciWCwY&feature=related Install Ubuntu Server 9.10 in Sun VirtualBox Part 1 of 2 17:02
MengXingHunOh.I'm sry.i can very good play ubuntu ^^^17:02
Monkey_Dust!ot| MengXingHun17:02
ubottuMengXingHun: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!17:02
MengXingHunok..sry17:03
janoshi i have a problem my hd is slow to start on boot and system go to initramfs17:03
janossome people know what i can do for make a good boot?17:04
martianixorMisterio: don't you agree that it would be nice if some commands like gf or wifey be written which could basically switch the environment to a more girly mode? with pink theme etc?17:05
SweetsIs there a 1 on 1 support for ubuntu?17:05
abhijitSweets, you mean commercial support?17:05
itsux2buthx guest, you helped me decide to use ubuntu server, not just ubuntu17:06
Misteriomartianixor: Then I would use always cli, anyways it's offtopic :P17:06
janosi have problem with grub17:06
martianixorMisterio: I agree cli is always the best ;-)17:06
DavidJHeinrichdoes anyone here know about Picard?17:06
uRockSweets, hte only way you get that is from a friend or from paying for it17:06
SweetsK...17:06
DavidJHeinrichI'm trying to change multiple MD3 tag data in many files, it won't let me to multiple files at once17:07
abhijitSweets, http://www.ubuntu.com/support and http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services17:07
uRockSweets, you can get great help from ubuntuforums.org you just have to be patient there.17:07
janossome people can help all my config file is ok but my boot go on !alert /dev/uu-id does not exist because my hd is slow to response17:07
SweetsThanks17:08
uRockjanos, there is a setting for the amount of time to give grub to find its stuff, but I don't know where that is17:08
sunsonprobably OT here, but would an intra-vlan chatter go via the firewall?17:08
_pg_in iwconfig how do i switch my laptop to use the usb rather than the onboard?17:09
nikitisQuestion Can anyone figure out how to change the default vnc4server port from 5900 to something else?  I've googled it but I'm not getting any clear answers.17:11
gilleyI sure wish they would fix wubi17:12
guest DavidJHeinrich: tp://easytag.sourceforge.net/ EasyTAG17:12
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guest DavidJHeinrich: http://easytag.sourceforge.net/   EasyTAG17:13
th0rnikitis: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/12152-change-vncserver-port.html17:13
euphorialI have a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000. So far I have only discovered "Cheese", which in itself is quite cheesy. It has a capture rate of what *seems* to be 5 frames per second (shitty). I've looked around on Google and can't find a real solution. Does anyone have time and the know-how to help me with resources for this problem, please?17:13
DavidJHeinrichguest: thanks17:14
guestDavidJHeinrich: believe it will help you17:14
martianixorwrektjet: any luck?17:15
meLonI am having trouble with public key authentication.  It was working earlier today, but now it's now.  The only thing I've done that I can imagine would affect this is modification of permissions.  I looked up what the permissions of the files should be, but I'm still stuck.  I am now being prompted to enter my password17:15
wrektjetmartianixor, not so much not totally sure whats running under python. im gonna leave my computer and restart later today. ive been reading about "top"17:16
gilleywhen ubuntu is installed with wubi it gives me a "error: cannot find GLDR in all devices error. the fix seems too advanced to complete, by modifying the boot record..:(17:16
roydude!raid17:16
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto17:16
notmemeLon: SSH?17:16
martianixorwrektjet: yeah top is very interesting, try htop too17:16
martianixorwrektjet: ;-) got to go for now, and don't get used to restarting whenever there's a problem17:17
meLonYes.  I am connecting to localhost over ssh trying to use public key authentication.  It was working earlier today17:17
meLonnotme ^17:17
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cpareanyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB217:17
guestDavidJHeinrich: sudo aptitude install easytag easytag-aac17:17
notmemeLon: what's the error exactly?17:17
meLonNotme The error is I have to put in my passwords17:17
cpareanyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB2?17:18
uRock!pm | janos17:18
ubottujanos: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:18
gilley!wubi17:18
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.17:18
yates_#ubuntu-mythtv17:19
notmemeLon: connec with -v switch, it'll tell you a little more about the issue17:19
notmes/(connec)/\1t/17:19
roydudeany one have experience with hardware raid?  I'm wondering how ubuntu will warn me of a failing HD?17:19
yates_how to do i switch to a irc for mythbuntu?17:19
wrektjetmartianixor, thnx17:20
uRockyates_, click network in upper left, then click chanels17:20
roydudeyates_: /j #mythbuntu17:20
meLonnotme, Thanks for your suggestion.  Here is the output.  http://pastebin.org/43637217:21
cpareAnyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB2?17:23
notmemeLon: can you try again with -vv?17:23
Ganymededoes anyone know a way to get nfs-utils 1.2.2 to lucid without upgrading to maverick. lucid's version of NFS kernel server seems to lack IPv6 support (even though IPv6 has been out for like 10 years or something)17:24
wrektjetcrazy: i figured out that my netmonitor screenlet was taking up almost a gig of RAM! crazyness17:24
meLonnotme, updated http://pastebin.org/43637817:24
indietrashwhich ubuntu10 versions are released? I see no fluxbuntu or crunchbang based on 10, so I thought I'd ask.17:25
IdleOneindietrash: neither are supported17:26
indietrashIdleOne: I know. that's beside my point.17:26
IdleOneindietrash: no the point is neither are supported17:26
IdleOneask in their channels17:26
notmemeLon: ok still doesn't say much, so check ~/.ssh/* have all 0600 permissions, in both machines17:27
notmeor at least in your local machine17:27
indietrashIdleOne: the point of my question was to harvest information as to which ubuntu10s there are. this include kubutunu xubuntu fluxubuntu blahubuntu. official or not. just asking if anyone knows.17:27
notmealso that you are the owner of everything17:28
IdleOneindietrash: Ubuntu,Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu17:28
notme(no everything in the world, just that directory)17:28
IdleOnethose are the official supported versions anything else is offtopic here and not supported17:28
uRock+117:28
indietrashoh I just love #ubuntu. are there any lite versions of ubuntu available? i.e. one that comes with X11 set up and maybe GNOME, but no other crap?17:29
extraclassichi, I'm using Ubuntu and trying to do a MySQL query with php, but I keep getting the error Call to undefined function mysql_connect()....I was looking for help since I've configured something wrong17:29
IdleOne!minimal > indietrash17:29
ubottuindietrash, please see my private message17:29
uRock!lubuntu > indietrash17:29
ubottuindietrash, please see my private message17:29
indietrashis lubuntu 10 or just 917:30
bolverksson999I am a newbie, going to school for computer networking and internet security trying to learn Backtrack 417:30
uRockthere is a lubuntu 10.0417:30
bolverksson999Backtruck has a debian/uUbuntu base17:30
askhaderHello I am using a wifi USB adapater with ndiswrapper. ndiswrapper -l reports that the device is present (with prper mac address) and the driver is loaded but I still have no wireless device extensions. Why is this?17:30
IdleOnebolverksson999: #backtrack-linux17:30
yates_thanks17:30
indietrashkthnx. I'll look lover them17:30
indietrash*over17:30
bolverksson999yes17:30
uRockbolverksson999, this isn't the channel for Back|Track17:30
bolverksson999Backtrack is linux17:30
bolverksson999where is that?17:31
abhijit!backtrack | bolverksson99917:31
ubottubolverksson999: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:31
meLonnotme, should .ssh directory itself also have 0600 permissions?17:31
IdleOnebolverksson999: /join #backtrack-linux17:31
bolverksson999thankyou17:31
opariaextraclassic: Look in php.ini for the line with mysql.so, and uncomment it if it's commented17:31
notmemeLon: it would need also x bit, so it should have 070017:31
_pg_what is the gcc library and where is it located?17:31
abhijit_pg_, its c compiler17:32
abhijit!gcc | _pg_17:32
ubottu_pg_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)17:32
_pg_abhijit: vmware tools is asking for it17:32
extraclassicI've found that line, uncommented it, pointed it to the right place, restarted apache, and it still doesn't work17:32
headkase314_pg_: (G)NU (C) (C)ompiler.  It is a tool to compile source code into programs.17:32
_pg_headkase314: is it part of ubuntu by default?17:32
IdleOne_pg_: install the build-essential package17:33
_pg_or do i need to go get it from somewhere? the installed cant find the directory17:33
headkase314_pg_: sudo apt-get install build-essential to get it17:33
notmemeLon: do you have access to the server?17:33
meLonnotme, Yes.  Working on the permissions17:33
_pg_headkase314: jsut like that? or build-essential gcc17:33
abhijit!info gcc | _pg_17:33
ubottu_pg_: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu1)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.3-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB17:33
headkase314_pg_: but if you install software from source you lose all the benefits of apt-get like the management it does for you, always try to find a package first before compiling from source.17:33
opariaextraclassic: What about mysqli.so? The next line, usually17:34
itsux2buoh.. thats how gcc got its name..  gnu c compiler17:34
_pg_headkase314: its just in a vm im not too worried about it17:34
itsux2buwhich vm are you using?17:34
extraclassicI tried using that file too, since I read it was recommended over the other, but no luck17:34
headkase314_pg_: just build-essential, that pulls in gcc17:34
notmemeLon: chmod 700 ~/.ssh ; chmod -R 600 ~/.ssh/*; chown -R myuser:mygroup ~/.ssh17:35
_pg_itsux2bu: vmware fusion17:35
_pg_headkase314: awesome thank you17:35
itsux2buoh your on a mac?17:35
_pg_itsux2bu: yeah17:35
headkase314_pg_: you're welcome!17:35
opariaextraclassic: You'll need both together, if I remember correctly17:35
itsux2bui'm mr. windows.. my younger brother is a mac fanboy17:36
_pg_itsux2bu: youll get there ;)17:36
meLonnotme.  .ssh of both homes is 0700.  All files in local .ssh are 0600.   I've deleted my authorized_keys on the server and am about to ssh-copy-id it back on there.17:36
itsux2bulol.. my bro tells me that too17:36
tempk whats up with the bluetooth retardedness in 10.04 i have to use an on screen kbd17:36
notmeok, but make sure it's called authorized_keys2 with a 2 in the end17:37
shuraneWhen is ~/bash_login called in Ubuntu?17:37
notmealso in the server, if you have a line AllowUsers you have to put the remote user in there17:37
_pg_itsux2bu: i dont feel comfortable trying to convert you here but i also hang out in #mac if youre ever curious haha17:37
itsux2bu_pg_ does vmware charge for fusion?   last offtopic question..17:38
_pg_itsux2bu: yeah they do17:38
notmemeLon: and reload sshd's cfg17:38
meLonoh17:38
_pg_itsux2bu: its supurb though. definately worth it17:38
meLonnotme,  /etc/init.d/sshd restart?17:38
notmemeLon: if you are using lucid you can use "service sshd reload"17:39
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notmemeLon: sorry the service is called "ssh" not "sshd"17:40
meLonnotme:  I've restarted and reloaded /etc/init.d/ssh .  I've verified the permissions you've suggested.  I'm still being prompted for my password: http://pastebin.org/43640017:41
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casa_ciao17:43
jvm1hi. i am changing my system, and just thought i'd transfer my home directory from the old one to the new. the old and the new system are ubuntu 9.10. strangely, on the new system my desktop icons are taken from $HOME instead of $HOME/Desktop. anyone have an idea how to correct that?17:44
opijis there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?17:45
erUSULjvm1: edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs17:45
meLonGiving up on me, notme ? :P17:45
soreauopij: flash is the hiccup, not ubuntu17:45
jvm1thanks a lot, erUSUL.17:45
gafirDoes anybody know where to click to burn an audio cd out of a playlist with rhythmbox? Thx17:46
ludovic_bonjour je recher le canal dun amie sur unboutu chat room17:46
notmeoh, not me!17:46
erUSULjvm1: no problem17:46
rwwubottu: fr | ludovic_17:46
ubottuludovic_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:46
opijsoreau: it doesnt happen when i download the file, and it doesnt happen in windows17:46
notmei'm googling 4 your issue, hang on :)17:46
headkase314gafir: You can use Brasero to burn audio cd's.  It is under: Applications > Sound and Video > Basero Disc Burner17:47
ludovic_thank you very mutch im sorry17:47
headkase314*brasero17:47
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gafirheadkase314: brasero requires me to sudo to launch it, or else it doesn't burn, so I'm sort of looking for a way to do it with rhythmbox17:47
rhalffhi, how do I select the default ruby version ?17:47
dementorhy i need to change my video driver  vrom vesa to Savage 4  how can i do theat in new whit linux17:48
rhalffsome tool for that to set the alternative.. hm set alternatives right.. ? :)17:48
opijis there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?17:48
gafirheadkase314: I'll give it a shot with brasero again, thx17:48
headkase314gafir: If Brasero requires sudo then there is something misconfigured on your machine for that, I don't know how to approach it but perhaps that should be the support you seek first?17:48
Misteriogafir: Go to gnome-menu, and remove "gksu" from command in brasero17:49
rhalffhm ok that's not for ruby17:49
notmemeLon: try running ssh-add17:50
ReemoHey guys, I just bought a second graphic card (9400GT nvidia), but it is not recognized by nvidia-settings, while lspci lists the card. Lucid Lynx, NVidia GPU's, Asus P5E Deluxe17:51
gafirheadkase314 Misterio: thx17:51
headkase314gafir: You're welcome!17:51
opijis there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?17:51
meLonHey notme, doesn't this look like it's using the wrong key?  http://pastebin.org/43642517:52
pyTopherare there programs to upload files onto an iPod?17:53
tototototoythey i want to keep some packages from upgrading, and then run apt-get upgrade, how do i do that?17:53
Reemotototototoyt, google apt-pinning17:53
abhijit!ipod | pyTopher17:53
ubottupyTopher: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod17:53
tototototoytReemo, thanks17:53
Reemonp17:54
pyTopherthanks17:54
notmemeLon: the first key i guess it's not the one your using to login, the other one just says "nil", only thing i can think is it is empty or something like that17:54
notmeyou can as well just regen the keys, also why you try ssh localhost?17:55
notmeare you trying this on the same machine?17:55
dementorhy i need to change my video driver  from vesa to Savage 4  how can i do theat i am  new whit linux17:55
nikitisI need help from somebody who knows VNCServer really well17:55
nikitisI can't figure out how to change the port and make it work.  Also, I can't seem to connect to VNC before I log into the machine locally.17:56
euphorialChange login to VNC instead of localhost logins.17:56
mr_haii just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network17:57
mr_haiim sorounded by several open networks all of which in set to auto connect to and none worked17:57
meLonHmmm, -vvv says "Not a RSA1 key file".  That's strange17:57
mr_haiI really would not like to swtich to wicd because it does not handle WEP key index's17:58
notmemeLon: maybe id_rsa is corrupt, or the server's not accepting dsa keys and you got one17:59
ResQuei just download the source for GnuGP, run ./configure, make and make install all worked find as i download all the dependencies but when i type gpg in the terminal it says not found. any ideas what i did wrong17:59
notmei'd try ssh-keygen again17:59
mr_haiI really would not like to swtich to wicd because it does not handle WEP key index's17:59
mr_haii just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network17:59
meLonOkay notme.  What bothers me is that this was working flawlessly earlier17:59
notmemeLon: odd it is18:00
headkase314ResQue: did you do "sudo make install" or just "make install"? Without sudo the files couldn't be placed into the proper locations.18:00
ResQueheadkase314: yes i did sudo18:00
headkase314ResQue: Ok, just checking that: someone else will have to help you from here ;)18:00
meLonWow.  notme.  I had to set the server's user's directory to 0700.18:01
ResQueheadkase314: thanks :-D18:01
notmemeLon: have you changed something in the server since?18:01
ixbidiedf18:01
notmetoldya :)18:01
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mr_haii just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network18:03
om26erluck ;-)18:03
ResQueheadkase314: i just did a find on my whole root drive, only to find out i install GPG v2, its exe is gpg2 HAHAHAHAHA18:03
meLonOh, notme.  It has to do with sshd's StrictMode18:04
meLonThanks so much for your help!18:04
ResQuei should be mad but i am so happy its working, i had loads of trouble with the dependencies, i cant help but laugh now i know its working18:04
mr_hai!fluxbox18:04
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox18:04
mr_hai!fluxbox network18:04
notmemeLon: strict modes are Wise18:05
nirvaana69hi18:05
headkase314ResQue: you can also enter "apt-cache search gpg | less" to get a list of packages related to that.18:05
headkase314*in a console18:05
nirvaana69how do i change themes?18:05
meLonYeah, but I'm doing this on localhost and it seems that the strictmode is just to keep users from being able to gain other users priv's.  Since i'm the only user I dont think it will be much of a problem18:06
ResQueheadkase314: thanks i will note that down18:06
nirvaana69i am new to ubuntu9.0418:06
headkase314ResQue: You're welcome, and the Q key exits the less viewer ;)18:06
notmemeLon: it's a matter of good habits18:06
nirvaana69i am new to ubuntu9.04how do i change themes?18:07
headkase314nirvaana69: Go to System > Preferences > Appearance to change the look and feel18:07
nchand!SafeType18:07
nirvaana69thanks!!18:07
headkase314nirvaana69: You're welcome ;)18:08
casa_come si camnia canale?18:08
IdleOnecasa_: /join #canale18:08
casa_grazie caro18:09
IdleOneprego18:09
* notme learns prego == your welcome in italian18:09
IdleOnenotme: it does :)18:09
notmegreat, someday i want to learn italian :)18:10
dries_How can I assign core affinities in ubuntu?18:10
sobukweI am new to perl and experimenting with sockets. When I try to open a socket using sockaddr_in($port,$iaddr), I get this error:18:12
IdleOnesobukwe: #perl would be a better place to ask18:12
notmedries_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html18:12
dries_thanks notme18:13
notmenp18:13
ninja_sensecan someone help me with my wine install...its completely broke18:14
tle_Hey all, I'm having an issue with the interface builder Glade. essentially whenever I pick a stock image or button the icon doesn't show up. is there any way around this?18:15
dementorhow to change my  video driver  from vesa to S3 Inc. Savage 4  i am new in linux18:16
UberN00bhey there, has anyone experienced problems connecting a web cam to skype ?18:18
notmehey what dya ppl use to backup? (pref gui+cli and based around cli tools)18:19
notmelocal backups18:19
IdleOne!backup18:19
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:19
headkase314notme: My backup is a USB hard-drive.  I usually have it turned off.  When I need to backup something I turn it on, copy to it, and unmount it and turn it off again ;)  Completely manual driven.18:20
ShapeShifter499hi18:22
tle_Stock images and buttons aren't showing up in Glade (or the produced GUIs) for me. Anyone know a work around?18:22
notmeheadkase314: that way if i mess up i won't have incrementals from where to get back18:22
notmethx IdleOne18:22
trismtle_: in the case of buttons, by default in gnome they don't have icons, unless the /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icons key is set18:22
ShapeShifter499does generating 4024 bit pgp keys take a long time?18:22
trismtle_: enable it and you will see them in glade18:22
headkase314notme: There is also Dropbox OR UbuntuOne.  You can save in those folders and have them automatically mirrored to a cloud?18:22
tle_trism:  ah ok, so its essentially a default theme issue then? Is there a way that I can override this within my application (or even better, Glade)?18:23
quesoIs it easy to change the context menus for nautalus?  When I right-click on a file, usually there are only a couple things I want to do . . no where near the 17 (!) options it gives me.18:24
quesoHa, when I right-click on a folder, it gives me 20 options.18:24
trismtle_: you can explicitly set the contents of the button (load the stock icon then attach it to the button), but this is really beyond the scope of this channel18:25
notmeheadkase314: kinda don't like the cloud for storage, let alone for my personal stuff. an external disc should be fine, just some way to add incremental18:25
tle_trism: alright thanks for your help18:25
surfereddieEnter text here...hello all18:26
konnekonne8818:26
notmehey there18:26
surfereddieanybody using nxserver? with a windows client18:26
headkase314notme: I don't have experience for it but are you looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron ? Basically write a script to incrementally back up and use cron to run it at specific intervals?18:26
IdleOnenotme: grsync may be what you want18:27
notmeheadkase314: yeah i'd love to put up a script, but don't have the time atm, will check that IdleOne18:27
UberN00bdoes anyone know how i can get skype to recognize my cam18:28
Dr_WillisUberN00b:  do other apps see it?18:29
headkase314UberN00b: This may help -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Skype18:29
notmeIdleOne: looks good! ty18:30
IdleOnenotme: sure thing18:30
UberN00bthanks headkase314 i'll check it18:30
headkase314UberN00b: You're welcome!18:30
UberN00bDr_Willis apps... no but the cam is working in chatroulette18:31
irulewhat software do I need to connect to a wireless lan using cli? my X is dead :s18:31
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konnejoin #httpd18:32
kreme191could someone help me install a webcam, microsoft cinema, i've tried using wine with little success18:32
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vivek243hi..18:33
xangua!webcam | kreme19118:33
ubottukreme191: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras18:33
Sayahey_hi all18:33
Dr_Willisirule:  theres several command line tools., iwlist, and iwconfig and others are used.18:33
kreme191thanx xungua18:33
irulewell I need something that will make it easy because I never understand man pages18:34
Dr_Willisirule:  perhaps check --> http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2006/12/ubuntu_configur.html  :) if you got a bnrowser handy18:34
irulethere whould be woman pages18:34
mikebeechamhi guys...I just had my graphics freak out after an update....now, gnome-do is telling me that I need to enable 'composition'...can someone tell me how to do that please?18:34
Dr_Willisirule:  learn the tools and it is easy.  wicd also has a CLI interface I think. not sure about network manager18:34
sunsonI have two servers A and B which are connected via a switch (and to other machines). Now, if we laid a direct cross-over cable from A-to-B and assigned eth1s of each an IP from the same network... 1. will linux prefer the direct wire? and 2. if the wire dies, will it go over the switch?18:34
UberN00bheadkase314 ermmm that doesnt help much18:35
IdleOneirule: if you can't understand man pages you surely won't get the woman pages.18:35
notmelol18:35
itsux2budoes ubuntu have good support for USB devices?18:35
IdleOneirule: sexism is against the code of conduct, please don't make such comments.18:35
vivek243Happy Friendship day.........18:36
headkase314UberN00b: I have to use that to get my webcam working in Skype, basically need the compatibility mode here ;)18:36
Dr_Willissunson:  you re connecting 2 pc's  each with 2 NIC's  to each other? one via the lan, one nic via a direct crossover cable? the system will not auto-fallback wiothout some work,18:36
notmeirule: low level program is iwconfig18:36
[thor]itsux2bu: i have had better support for my usb devices in ubunty than i ever had in *dows18:36
xanguamikebeecham: open gconf-editor and search fot /apps/metacity/general/metacity_compositing18:36
sunsonDr_Willis: yes. exactly.18:36
pharasothhey everyone18:36
xanguaoh is compositing_manager18:36
sunsonDr_Willis: i thought there is something called a shortest path algorithm... but maybe I over-wished what it does :P18:37
UberN00bheadkase314, but as far as i understood i have to change a line in a text file ... but the path they gave leads to the options menu in skype18:37
UberN00b...no txt there...18:37
[thor]itsux2bu: no need to install drivers for my camera, or wifi antenna, or even my ancient palmOS device18:37
mikebeechamxangua: actually mate I just discovered that the drivers corrupted, and I had no visual effects.  It's downloading and installing some drivers I believe.  Not sure what happened with the Update Manager, but something sure freaked out18:37
quesoI found a Nautilus Actions Configuration Tool -- is there a way to edit the already-existing actions?  Or only add actions?18:37
itsux2buhow does ubuntu know what to do with each device?18:38
bugrehi guys all ok18:38
xanguawhat driver mikebeecham¿ did you add xorg team ppa or something like that¿18:38
pharasothdoes anyone know what version of xorg-server nvidia 71.86.13 is compatible with18:38
mikebeechamxangua: nope18:38
headkase314UberN00b: it is done on the command line, the preload functions set up the compatibility mode for skype and then you run skype in that compatibility environment.  It can be a bit confusing especially when you need to create a menu item with the preloads.18:38
sunsonDr_Willis: I guess its because of ARP discovery claiming the route to nic2 of B to be going via nic2 of A only... unless of course, we login via nic1 and clear off the ARP cache. right?18:38
ikoniapharasoth: the xserver version is not important18:38
mikebeechamI've been away on holiday, come back to find that Ubuntu has some updates to do...I set it off and BOOM.18:38
Dr_Willissunson:  one of the featuires of network manager i THINK is to do the task. but still programs can get confused if eth's suddendly change.18:38
ikoniapharasoth: if you read the README in the nvidia packge it will explain it's limitations18:38
roboto3785Hi all. Recently I've had some trouble keeping my WindowPickerApplet displayed. I've tried using Emerald, and have also added window manager (gnome-wm) to my startup, and still it hides itself on me... 'metacity --replace' will make it reappear but it usually disappears soon there after... any suggestions?18:38
bugreI'm problem whit18:38
sunsonDr_Willis: there is no NetworkManager here. this isn't a Desktop. its a 10.04 server.18:38
bugresmart lan usb18:38
Dr_Willissunson:  not sure. this is getting beyond my 'offical' network training. :) Im more of a hands on.18:38
bugreuw5418:39
Dr_Willissunson:  wicd has a command line version. so it can work as a 'network manager' i belive.18:39
headkase314exit18:39
[thor]itsux2bu: some sort of voodoo magic, or databases being matched to deviceIDs.. something like that.18:39
UberN00bheadkase314 so how do i do that again ? XD18:39
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pharasothok does anyone have nvidia 71.86.13 working and if so what distro are you using18:39
sunsonDr_Willis: yeah, we no use any funky stuff. just plain ol' /etc/network/interfaces managed via puppet18:39
Dr_Willissunson:  theres proberly guides for redundant/failsafe/network type connections18:39
ikoniapharasoth: this channel is for ubuntu support only18:39
xanguaroboto3785: do you have compiz setting manager installed¿¿18:40
pharasothok does anyone have nvidia 71.86.13 working and if so what version of ubuntu are you using18:40
roboto3785Yep.18:40
itsux2buok.. so ubuntu has a built-in db of devices and looks it up somehow18:40
ikoniapharasoth: the nvidia drivers that are shipped as part of the ubuntu hardware drivers tool is what is supported18:40
sunsonDr_Willis: I'm trying to avoid the switch. we need the switch to talk to others... but A is a web server and B is a DB server. A talks to B too much. but also talks to others...18:40
[thor]itsux2bu: i lean more toward the voodoo magic myself.18:40
xanguaroboto3785: ten better remove that window applet you use, open compiz settings and go to the window decoration plugin18:41
headkase314UberN00b: You see where it says "bash -c"?  In a console don't type that instead type everything between the two single quotes.  Then Skype will run and you can test your webcam.  Then if it works you can make the menu item with the bash -c part in it.18:41
pharasothyeah but they are not working out for me. There is this graphical glitch around the cursor in opengl apps18:41
itsux2buso the usb devices still need drivers but they keep details from the user18:41
xanguain Comand it says '/usr/bin/compiz-decorator' , replace it with 'emerald --replace'18:41
headkase314UberN00b: Also in a console type: gstreamer-properties to get some web-cam configuration options to play with.18:41
xanguaroboto3785*18:41
roboto3785Ok, xanqua, I'll check that out. Thanks :)18:41
pharasothi don't need "supported" drivers, i need functional drivers18:41
pe4nut...18:41
ikoniapharasoth: ok, so you'll need to contact nvidia to log a bug. Have you checked your cards supported status with ubuntu package drivers18:42
UberN00bheadkase314 thanks, gime a sec to try it18:42
[thor]itsux2bu: no, you can probably find all the information you need on the forums.18:42
itguru_my ppp0 device is all of a sudden coming up as eth1 device? has anyone heard of this before?18:42
xanguaroboto3785: and just restart your session, that should work18:42
[thor]!usb > itsux2bu18:42
ubottuitsux2bu, please see my private message18:42
pe4nuthave chinese ?18:42
IdleOne!cn18:42
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk18:42
pe4nutI come from china18:43
UberN00bheadkase 314 NICE, it worked .. but would that mean that i have to type this everytime i log in ?18:43
mgraf²/wc18:44
mgrafwhoops18:44
mikebeechamhas anyone else experienced nvidia drivers corrupting after a recent update?18:44
pharasoth!ikonia yeah it is supported..18:44
ikoniapharasoth: that's a good start, so it maybe worth logging a bug with nvidia18:44
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headkase314UberN00b: If you have Skype set to start everytime you log in (System > Preferences > Startup Applications then you just edit that and in the command to start you put the full "bash -c '..." line.  Then log out and log back in to make sure it's done right.  The hard part is over, you know the command you need now just need to get it into startup applications!18:45
hugoboa tarde ppl18:45
IdleOneevening hugo18:45
UberN00bheadkase314 thanks a bunch !!18:46
pharasoth!ikonia yeah but i'm sure this has been fixed already, ubuntu 8.04 only supports 71.86.04 and the drivers up to 71.86.1318:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:46
headkase314UberN00b: You're very welcome!  I love it when it works out! ;)18:46
IdleOnepharasoth: please don't use ! before your sentences it is going to trigger the bot every time18:46
hugoDoes anyone talk Portuguese?18:46
nimbioticshello. Im having problems with compiz since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04. As soon as I select the "Reflection" effect my system crashes. Last time, I had to login in safe mode and unmark it but now, i cannot see any of the efects, more specifically the cube. is there any way i can reset all values? What can I do? TIA!18:46
IdleOne!br | hugo18:46
ubottuhugo: Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:46
pharasothoh i thought that was how to directed a message to someone18:47
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vivek243ubottu does we have marathi community??18:47
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:47
Dr_Willisnimbiotics:  the ccsm tool has a 'reset alll to defaults' button. or you could delete the compiz config files18:47
IdleOnepharasoth: just type the persons name you are talking to and they will be highlighted18:47
pionarhi everyone, running lucid.  every five minutes or so, gwibber pops up the broadcast accounts settings window.  anyone know what's up with this?18:47
nimbioticsDr_Willis: Thansk18:47
bugrewath comands for ffmpeg?18:47
pharasothso no one here has nvidia 71.86.13 functional at all in any ubuntu version18:47
abhijitvivek243, I am marathi. there is indian channel. and there is marathi translations group on laucnhapd18:47
kushalsejwalhello everyone, bought a brand new laptop today. I always have xp dual booted with ubuntu, but for my laptop I just want Ubuntu, so please tell me how to ideally do the partitions18:47
pharasothIdleOne ok thanks i was misled by someone18:47
IdleOnepharasoth: no worries :)18:48
abhijit!in | vivek24318:48
ubottuvivek243: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India18:48
ikoniapharasoth: most people use the supported versions18:48
vivek243abhijit where i can find it?18:48
pe4nuthi ,18:48
vivek243ubottu thanks..18:48
abhijitvivek243, find what?18:48
[thor]hi pe4nut18:48
abhijit!bot | vivek24318:48
ubottuvivek243: Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins18:48
pharasothikonia yeah i would love to if i could fix this one issue, but it seems im the only one who has experienced it18:48
pe4nuti come from china18:49
[thor]pe4nut: are you looking for help? or to talk?18:49
pharasothikonia ive tried disabling composite and enable HWCursor and all sorts of things18:49
pe4nutthanks18:49
ikoniapharasoth: best thing is to log the bug with nvidia18:49
pharasothanyone know a way to disable silken cursor?18:49
vivek243abhijit indian channel?18:49
storfdoes anyone has some aids on ossv4 with asus xonar stx?18:49
abhijitvivek243, type /j #ubuntu-in18:50
IdleOnevivek243: type /join #ubuntu-in18:50
ikoniastorf: please try to explain your problem clearly?18:50
storfWel18:50
storfI can't use ever yamplifier on the card18:50
storfevery18:50
storfso I need aids18:50
ikoniastorf: what version of ubuntu are you using18:50
storflts18:51
ikoniastorf: which one18:51
storflatest18:51
tensorpudding10.04 lts?18:51
storfyeah thats it18:51
pharasothdoes ubuntu 7.10 have a restricted drivers manager?18:51
ikoniastorf: please show me the output of "uname -a" in this window18:51
storfwasnt it the lynxy lucid ?18:51
Dr_WillisIts like puling teeth to get answers from question makers.. some times in here. :)18:51
storfikonia: you dont believe me?18:51
ikoniastorf: please show me the output of "uname -a" in this window18:51
bockanyone have problems with built in sd card reader not importing images correctly (distorted/ pixelated)18:51
xanguapharasoth: 7.10 is unsupported18:51
Dr_Willispharasoth:  thats almost 3 yrs old. I suggest upgradeing.18:52
IdleOnepharasoth: 7.10 is EOL you may want to update to a newer version18:52
quesoHelp appreciated here: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9661796 Thanks18:52
storfikonia: Linux computer 2.6.32-22-server #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 20:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:52
pharasothnvidia's oldest legacy driver is unsupported after 8.0418:52
ikoniastorf: what is your machines hostname18:52
nikitisI need help setting up VNCServer with a changed port.  I have completely screwed up my vnc install.  I have files from some guides that probably may be interfering with correct setups.  I need someone to hold my hand and help me fix this.18:52
pharasothall i need this box for is fluxus with hardware enabled opengl18:53
storfcomputer18:53
storfcant you read ?18:53
ikoniastorf: so explain the problem you're having18:53
storfare you trolling me ikonia ? I just told you18:53
storfand you ask useless hostname questions18:53
storf!admin18:53
storf!op18:53
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler!18:53
ikoniastorf: no, you didn't make sense with your question, so please try to explain it a little clearer18:53
gnomefreak?18:53
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storfyes18:53
storfkick ikonia18:54
IdleOnestorf: please stop18:54
gnomefreakikonia: feel free to take this one :)18:54
ikoniastorf: please stop being silly, please explain your question clearly18:54
storfok18:54
storfone sec18:54
bockIM having problems with viewing jpeg pics from my built in sd card reader. anyone know how to fix this?18:54
bullgard4'~$ ls -al /tmp/.ICE-unix; total 16; ... ; srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255, ...' What does the file access permission 's' (first position) mean?18:54
pharasothis anyone familiar with the cause of a graphical glitch around my cursor in opengl with nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.04 lts??18:55
ikoniabullgard4: setuid18:55
storfikonia: I cant use all amps on the card18:55
Dr_Willisnikitis:  i belive you could always give the port/options on teh command line and they will override any config file ssttings.18:55
ikoniapharasoth: you're not using the supported drivers, you'll need to take that up with nvidia18:55
tensorpuddinganyone know how to cull non-existent files from banshee's database?18:55
storfI have ubuntu, believe me18:55
ikoniastorf: all amps ?18:55
rynnehi everyone im relitivly new to using ubuntu this isnt my first time using it but this time i want to really understand how everything  works like the file structure of it and really how to run linux to its full potential18:55
pharasothno i AM using the supported drivers18:55
nikitisDr_Willis: i'm trying to setup vnc to load on boot before login, it's a vmware server guest.18:55
storfikonia: not all amps18:55
ikoniapharasoth: oh, you're using the drivers from the hardware drivers package18:55
anomalyrynne get a copy of Rute and the Ubuntu 10.04 book.. both online and free18:55
nikitisDr_Willis: but I've fouled it up big time18:55
ikoniastorf: what do you mean all "amps"18:55
storfikonia: I cant use the headphone amp18:56
ikoniastorf: ok, the sound card18:56
storfam-pli-fier18:56
pharasothikonia yeah i am fresh install18:56
Dr_Willisnikitis:  you could do that from rc.local   or just ssh into the box and run it as needed.18:56
danielewelcom18:56
rynneanomaly thanx18:56
nikitisDr_Willis: i'd prefer to not have to ssh first18:56
storfikonia: are you sure you arent the one thats being silly? I asked about a xonar stx with ossv4, what would you think it is?18:56
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tensorpuddinganyone use banshee and know how to prune non-existent files from its library? rescanning doesn't seem to get rid of the dead files18:56
nikitisDr_Willis: I plan on accessing it via my cell phone18:56
Dr_Willisnikitis:  there might be some info ouit ion doing it via upstart. but ive not done that job in ages.  rc.local can do it also, if you want it running as a specific user.18:56
danieleciao .lista film18:57
ikoniastorf: I don't know what an xonar stx is, and I don't know what osssv4 is, hence asking you to explain the problem18:57
bullgard4ikonia: Thank you for your help.18:57
storfossv4 is like version 4 of the open sound system or something like that18:57
IdleOne!attitude > storf18:57
ubottustorf, please see my private message18:57
ikoniastorf: yes, I'm just reading now18:57
storfwhy are you admin here if you dont know linux18:57
storfok thanks18:57
jpdsstorf: Does anyone?18:57
danielddHello. I know its not exactly the right place but I can't find anywhere else to ask this: Anyone knows where can I find a Java support chat?18:57
storfdont mind my english18:57
kreme191I just installed a webcam, the video works, but the audio is not working in skype. when i type "ls /dev/audio*" into terminal there is one extra audio device when the camera is plugged in then when it is not, i think ubuntu recognizes it, but i cannot find it in the skype options, is there another way to test it18:58
eyoung101Question:  I am a helper by nature, I want to install Ubuntu alongside Gentoo.  Gentoo uses GRUB2 and is already installed, and I see ubuntu uses GRUB2, so how do I install 10.04 into seperate partition without wiping out my current grub>18:58
storfIdleOne: what is your problem, are you from germany?18:58
jordantbroAnyone had the issue where items in a gnone desktop panel don't remember their position between reboots?  On 10.04.18:58
Dr_Willisdanieldd:  #java perhaps?18:58
ikoniastorf: I'm pretty confident with linux thanks, but your questions are just nonsense words, hence why I need clarification on your issue18:58
gnomefreakstorf: please stop now.18:58
storfwtf18:58
gnomefreakstorf: please stop now.18:58
storfikonia:18:58
danielddits an invite-only channel and I don't have an invitation18:58
eyoung101make tthat GRUB1 for gentoo18:58
ikoniaeyoung101: the way ubuntu uses grub2 is not a useful layout with other dual booting distro combinations18:59
pionareyoung101, when run the installation, you can choose to have ubuntu share the system with gentoo.  It'll take care of everything18:59
Dr_Willisdanieldd:  MOST likely its a 'regiestered nick only' channel.18:59
storfikonia: www.opensound.com OSS never heard of it?18:59
ikoniastorf: yes, I'm aware of open sound18:59
pharasothikonia knowing that my cursor glitching is only in opengl apps, is it possible that using a different display manager could solve this?18:59
IdleOnestorf: conform to our guidelines or I will remove you permanently. Thank you.18:59
Dr_Williseyoung101:  ubuntu can proberlyhande booting booth os's.18:59
danielddDr_Willis: Oh, Thank you, I'll try to register and check it again, I am a bit new at all this IRC stuff. Thank you.18:59
storfIdleOne: I dont understand the problem thank you and confirmed18:59
ikoniapharasoth: that's not a bad suggestion, I don't think it will work, but its certainly worth a look18:59
Tux414Hi all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ. My microphone does not work. Does anyone know how to fix it?18:59
storfnot everyone can speak the best english IdleOne, kicking without warning is a bit harsh19:00
Dr_WillisTux414:  i would check the forums - Often they have specific tips for problems like that.19:00
pharasothikonia ive tried different window managers but that didn't work19:00
eyoung101do i need to choose install in mbr or into root /19:00
josephseraosHi there.. Could you help me, please? How do I change the HOSTNAME's computer19:00
Tux414Dr_willis: I tried19:00
josephseraossorry, Computer's HOSTNAME19:00
storfikonia: so can you help me with getting the card t owork with oss? with ALSA I get static noise19:00
bugre I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list19:00
ikoniaeyoung101: grub goes on the mbr19:00
oCean_josephseraos: Change /etc/hostname19:00
Dr_Williseyoung101:  i always put grub2 on my mbr.  Its normally smart enough to see/setup other disrtos.. iof course since you are a gentoo user. adding a propper entry to the grub2 menus shouldent be too hard for you. :)19:00
xanguastorf: then try a channel with your native language19:01
pionarTux414, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes has a fix19:01
storfikonia: oss4 that is not the deprecated oss19:01
Dr_Willis!oss19:01
storfxangua: please be a bit more supportive19:01
ikoniastorf: I'm aware of oss4 I'm just looking at the status in ubuntu's repo's now19:01
bugredanieldd: I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list19:01
storfthanks ikonia19:01
Dr_Willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound19:01
IdleOnestorf: I did not remove you due to your English. I removed because of yuor bad attitude towards the helpers in this channel19:01
ZykoticK9bugre, really?  ctrl+s bring up Network List on my xchat19:02
eyoung101yes but Gentoo uses Grub 1 not grub 219:02
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ikoniastorf:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound19:02
ikoniastorf: have you checked the supported status of your card19:02
Tux414pionar: I will check it19:02
bugresorry, its ok19:02
Tux414thanks19:02
storfIdleOne: I meant that maybe you mis understood what I meant19:02
Dr_Williseyoung101:  it dosent matter.. ubuntu and tye system will be using Grub2 to boot both os's - you wont want to let gentoo do any 'grub' work at all.19:02
ikoniastorf: it does suggest not all cards have full support19:02
bugreask error19:02
storfIdleOne: dont have to be so hard19:02
kreme191could someone help me get my microphone on my webcam working19:03
magicianlordkreme191: alsamixer -c019:03
storfikonia: yes but the alsa support is really ad19:03
storfbad19:03
xanguakreme191: did you check your sound settings¿¿19:03
storfalsa sucks basicly19:03
FloodBot1storf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:03
IdleOnestorf: My nationality has nothing to do with anything. You asking me if I am German was just your trollish way of saying I am being a nazi.19:03
magicianlordalsa is scratchy and shuts off19:03
kreme191xangue: how do i do that19:03
ZykoticK9eyoung101, so long as all goes as planned (it doesn't always ;)  grub2 should be able to automatically find both ubuntu & gentoo kernels for booting, and grub1 will no longer be required.  best of luck.19:03
magicianlordcan ubuntu fix alsa please?19:03
kreme191xangue: i checked them on skype but it did not recognized the camera, yet the video works19:04
storfIdleOne: what?19:04
storfwhere are you talking about?19:04
ikoniastorf: I understand alsa may not be your thing, but check the status of your card's support in oss419:04
IdleOneI am done with you storf. I hope you can get the help you need.19:04
ikoniastorf: it doesn't appear that oss4 is actually packaged into the ubuntu repos19:04
xanguamagicianlord: ubuntu uses pulseaudio by defaul19:04
Dr_Willismagicianlord:  sounds like an alsa bug. You did check the forums/bug reports? for your speicifc card and alsa?19:04
bugreAlt+ w, arrow down, enter = chanel list19:04
ikoniastorf: it seems that 3rd parties package/maintain oss4 for ubuntu19:04
Dr_Willis!info oss4-base19:04
ubottuoss4-base (source: oss4): Open Sound System - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2-build2002-2 (lucid), package size 574 kB, installed size 1068 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel avr32 hppa i386 ia64 lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc all)19:04
ikoniaDr_Willis: good spot, looks like the docs are out of date19:04
gnomefreakthats new19:05
bullgard4What is the function of the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix/ ? It includes a file  'srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255' which designates the PID of my GNOME session. Does »ICE« stand for »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?19:05
Dr_Willisikonia:  yep. the docs are a bit old..19:05
bugreclick in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat19:05
xanguakreme191: use Tab to complete names, clic in the little sound icon>preferences19:05
ZykoticK9xangua, ubuntu uses pulseaudio which uses alsa for low level sound support.  just sayin'19:05
storfIdleOne: yes ikonia helped me perfectly. I dont see why you bully new people like this. You dont have to be elitist or something19:05
Dr_Willisikonia:  i had to double check. I got so many extra ppa's installed. :)19:05
ravenhow to display foldersize with ls?19:05
storfikonia: thanks for the help19:05
Dr_Willisraven:  use 'du19:05
storfi'll try to patch it19:05
ikoniaDr_Willis: yeah, I found a PPA too, saw nothing in main19:05
Dr_Willisraven:  or df.19:05
storfI found some pointers ikonia19:05
kreme191xangue: i'm in sound preferences and and when i test the device there is nothing19:05
bugre<bugre> click in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat19:06
storfikonia: I read here that I might have to patch my PCI ID19:06
ikoniastorf: doubtful, but if you think it will help19:06
ravenDr_Willis, only the size of all file of one single folder19:06
xcthulhuHi!  I19:06
eyoung101so I should let ubuntu handle the booting, as such do i need to put ubuntus kernel and image in my gentoo boot partition?  hda1= windows, ditching 4 ubuntu hda2=/boot hda3=/ hda4=swap19:06
Dr_Willisraven:  not sure on what you mean.. but du has dozens of options19:06
xcthulhuI'm trying to wite a daemon that moves a *.tsv file every time one gets dumped into a folder19:06
storfikonia: yes it is because my card is not in the driver or ssomething, but the driver should support it19:07
ravenDr_Willis, du always runs every folder19:07
storfthe normal xonar is in it19:07
xcthulhuI'm wondering if anybody knows something that already does this19:07
Dr_Williseyoung101:  use of /boot/ partitions are a bit 'old skool' these days.19:07
ikoniaeyoung101: you're going to have a mass ammount of problems, as gentoo's updates will want to update menu.lst, on the gentoo disk, and ubuntu will want to use grub2 in /etc on the ubuntu disk, neither will be aware of each other19:07
storfthank you ikonia19:07
ZykoticK9eyoung101, ehhh.  i wouldn't want to comment on your rather complex setup.  you might want to ask in the gentoo irc channel for advice as well.  good luck man.19:07
ikoniaDr_Willis: they used to work for dual boot situations, but with ubuntu's grub2 layout, it's a real pain now19:07
Dr_Willis du -hs bin/19:07
Dr_Willis13Mbin/19:07
ohirraven: man du. du -sh /top/path to get summary size19:07
ravenDr_Willis, ohir that's it tnx19:08
eyoung101is there a way i can make ubuntu use grub 1?19:08
lathanhi, i had a question, if someone could offer some insight19:08
ikoniaeyoung101: sure, look at the grub-legacy package19:08
ohirraven: any command you have on terminal has its manual19:08
ohirraven: man command will give you quick insight into19:09
Dr_WillisIt pays to read the man pages.. :) or command --help19:09
guydoingstuffhaving trouble with grub2 and booting.  In a live cd session and fdisk -l is not seeing one of my HDs19:09
ravenohir du not ;)19:09
kreme191xangue: fixed it, thanx19:09
xanguasudo apt-get install grub eyoung10119:09
xanguai don't know if that removes grub2 package or if you have to do something else19:09
xanguakreme191: better use Tab to auto-complete names19:10
guydoingstuffcant install grub to a drive i cant find19:10
Dr_Williseyoung101:  what are you going to gain by using grub1 on both os's ?19:10
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ZykoticK9guydoingstuff, grub2 is separate from hd detection.  if "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't list your device you might want to have a look through "dmesg" and see what the kernel is saying (if anything) about your HDs.  Is the HD seen in BIOS?19:10
xcthulhuHmm... well, just in case someone ever runs across a log of this IRC chat through google or something, the answer to my question is that I want to use "watch"19:10
kreme191xangue: what do u mean auto complete names19:10
guydoingstuffHD is seen in bios19:10
eyoung101can i get that during the install?  if i use grub 1 i can chainload ubuntu from Gentoo19:11
Barnabasguydoingstuff, can you find the related device in /dev?19:11
Dr_Williseyoung101:  you can proberly chainload with grub2 also.. or let grub2 handle the whold booting prlcess and not chainload.19:11
guydoingstuffi see it, should be dev/sda19:11
guydoingstuffdont really know what to do with it there though19:11
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Dr_Willisgrub2 manages to see all the other disrtos on my systems. which can cause issues. It added meny entries for the USB hard drive isntalls  las ttimne19:12
Barnabasguydoingstuff, do you have a /dev/sda1 or 219:12
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lathanso, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?19:13
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eyoung101i understand what i can and cant do with grub 2 but i have issues b/c im using an old school setup as mentioned earlier19:13
guydoingstuffyoure right.  I do not see it.  sdb2-5 are there... I only see sda with no numbers following it19:13
josephseraosoCean_, To change, do I need restart pc?19:13
ZykoticK9eyoung101, there are some advanced grub options during an install (sorry not familiar with exactly what is there, other then install to different location) but i doubt grub1 is available... at that point.  perhaps selecting not to install grub might be an option?19:13
Kungfoodhello all19:13
Barnabasguydoingstuff, something happened to you partition table then19:13
oCean_josephseraos: you can set is for now using the hostname command (hostname mynewhostname). Editing /etc/hostname will make it persistent at reboots19:14
guydoingstuffreinstall?19:14
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Kungfoodultimate *nix nub here, having issues with ubuntu netbook19:14
om26erKungfood, explain19:14
Barnabasguydoingstuff, can you remember how the disk was patitioned ?19:14
nimbioticsHow do I delete the compiz config files? TIA!19:14
lathancan anyone help with my question?19:15
Kungfoodi installed 10.04 netbook edition on an old toshiba laptop (just a a place to learn linux, it was a free laptop) i cant seem to get the screen to display correctly, it have a black border and inch or two thick around it\19:15
frenchyim trying to boot from a live cd and all i get at the bottom there is an icon that looks something like a film strip maybe, its rectangular and a circle with a person in it19:15
frenchydoes anyone know what this means19:16
guydoingstuffyeah.  it is a 150 hd.  first 80gb are ubuntu 10.04.  40-50gb are ntfs xp sp3.  remaining ext 3 i think19:16
bullgard4What is the function of the /tmp/.ICE-unix directory? Does "ICE" here mean »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?19:16
guydoingstufffrenchy, use a serial keyboard and hit any key19:16
Kungfoodi have checked the packages, and the correct package IS installed, for the trident driver19:16
gnomefreakKungfood: it is best to use normal installer for laptops. netbook installer for netbooks19:16
guydoingstuffif it is a usb keyboard it might not recognize keystorkes19:16
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frenchyguydoingstuff, ahh why cant you boot with usb keyboard? just curious19:17
Kungfoodwhen i go to ch3eck the available resolutions though, 800x600 is the highest it will give me19:17
guydoingstuffi have no idea19:17
ZykoticK9Kungfood, i'd recommend desktop over NBE if you have the room, NBE is very "limited".  Good luck man.  the screen issue sounds like graphics drivers, "lspci | grep -i vga" to find you video card ;)19:17
lukafulminehi19:17
lukafulminei want to tell a question19:17
Barnabasguydoingstuff, try this guide19:17
Barnabashttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery19:17
guydoingstuffusb will work fine once you are in though19:17
BarnabasUnder lost partition19:17
lukafulminei have installed mozilla thunderbird i have add 2 mail19:17
Kungfoodive got the iso for the regualr 10.04, but i wanted to sort this out first, reason being is that when it was an xp machine, it had the same issue until i got the right driver installed19:17
lukafulmine1 hotmail and 1 gmail19:18
guntbert!enter | lukafulmine19:18
ubottulukafulmine: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:18
josephseraosoCean_, If I change file /etc/hostname, will it change in hosts too?19:18
ZykoticK9Kungfood, trident ;)  good luck man.19:18
magicianlordKungfood: what issue19:18
guntbert!hostname | josephseraos19:18
ubottujosephseraos: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.19:18
Kungfoodlol yeah19:18
oCean_josephseraos: nope, you have to change that too19:18
Kungfoodi figure fixing this will teach me a bit about linux :)19:18
lathancan anyone help with my question? i can type it again if need be19:19
Kungfoodcan i msg someone so i wont lose responses in the flood?19:19
lukafulminebut when i add the second account of gmail appears this answer:"incorrect username or password",but the username and password it's correct what's happened19:19
ZykoticK9Kungfood, i hope the lesson doesn't end up being how poor linux supports Trident graphics chips ;)19:19
guntbert!pm | Kungfood19:19
ubottuKungfood: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.19:19
gnomefreaklathan: ask again please19:19
lathanso, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?19:19
xangualukafulmine: gmail pop or imap¿¿ you first need to go to gmail web and enable one of those19:19
headkase314lathan: Possible solution.  Install Ubuntu to the hard drive.  Then boot off the SD card and mount the Ubuntu HD.  Then copy the files over and reboot into the Ubuntu HD.19:19
Kungfoodha, well i have been readin a bit a bout that...i did find a solution that involves editing the xorg.conf file, except that the file does not exist on my system...19:20
xangualathan: just coppy your home19:20
Dr_Willislathan:  you can mount the persistantce file  and copy files from it. via the proper 'mount' command19:20
guntbertKungfood: you can tell your irc client to not show the joins/parts -- so the screen will not scroll so fast19:20
Kungfoodok19:20
frenchyok unplugging the USB keyboard i still get the icon and when i press enter its just a black screen with a cursor flasshing at the top19:21
lathandoes /home contain all my changes?19:21
twoeightoneMy CD/DVD drive doesnt respond anymore after I've installed Ubuntu.  I am dualbooting, so it works just fine in Windows.  Anyone experienced something like this?19:21
ZykoticK9lathan, this isn't really what you are asking about but it's probably a lot easer to fresh install and simply backup you homedirectory files/settings and use !clone to reinstall apps.  good luck.19:21
ZykoticK9!clone | lathan19:21
ubottulathan: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate19:21
Dr_Willislathan:  /home is where your users files are at.  not sure what you mean about 'changes'19:21
pjcboas onde posso descarrgar o tema do ubuntu 9.10 (aquele amarelo)19:21
headkase314lathan: All your settings are in /home some of them are hidden by having a . before the file name19:21
mikebeechamI wonder if anyone can explain this to me....I just did an update, which seemed to have corrupted my video drivers.  I could not enable desktop effects and the only way I could repair the damage was to revert back to Nvidia drivers 173 - Can anyone help me understand why?19:21
guntbert!pt | pjc19:22
ubottupjc: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.19:22
lathanby changes, i meant my installed programs and such19:22
pjcok19:22
Dr_Willislathan:  the perisstant save file has all the 'changes' -  your USERS setings will be in the /home dir on that pereisant file.19:22
frenchyguydoingstuff, unplugging the usb and using serial does the same thing19:23
Kungfoodso if i know that i have the trident package installed, but i still see no xorg.conf file..what do i do?19:23
lathanokay, thanks everyone. i'll try it out later today19:23
Dr_Willislathan:   if you want to reinstall all the same apps. use that 'clone' factoid info.  then copuy the files from the persisnats /home/ to your actual home.19:23
Dr_WillisKungfood:  X auto configures for the most part these day. No xorg.conf needed for most people19:23
gnomefreakguntbert: please use !bleh > nick instead of |19:23
magicianlordwhen you install xorg and nouveau at the same time, do you absolutely need to configure xorg.conf or is this optional for a single screen setup with native resolution?19:24
lathanokay, thanks19:24
guydoingstufffrenchy, then it must be tied to bios.  WHen I get that icon you described, I have to either wait a minute for the installer session to kick in or use a serial keyboard19:24
alexander_err... ebook reader and calibre wont open an ebook... it's just blank i guess19:24
josephseraosguntbert, When I set hostname, do I need restart pc?19:24
Kungfoodis it possible to make an xorg.conf for just the purpose of configuring for this driver?19:24
Dr_Willismagicianlord:  somnthing is not clear.. xorg uses nouveau, for nvidia cards..   and you dont need a xorg.conf normally these days19:24
zack1I just installed 10.04 on a new hard drive i got for my laptop. Upon booting I recieve this error "error:out of disk." and i have a prompt that says "grob rescue>" is there something wrong with the harddrive or grub?19:24
axisyshow do take a snapshot or memory of your system in linux? is solaris you run uadmin 5 0 to panic it and that saves the memory/kernel and dump into a disk19:24
Dr_WillisKungfood:  you could make one if yiou wanted to19:25
Dr_WillisKungfood:  my nvidia-settings tool makes one with a few settings in it for my systems.19:25
guntbertjosephseraos: I would say no need for restarting19:25
alexander_the only reason i installed linux was to /open this ebook and it wont work/ can anyone possibly help?19:25
Kungfoodi guess i will go ahead and reinstall with desktop, then try and tackle this again19:26
gnomefreakalexander_: you would have to aska  question before anyone can think about helping you19:26
Dr_Willisalexander_:  theres ebook readers for windows I imagine.. but if it has some sort of DRM/protection on the ebook.. well.. that limits what you can do19:26
alexander_yeah... basically ebook reader and calibre don't open it19:26
alexander_and the barnes and noble program crashes19:26
frenchyguydoingstuff it goes away then i just get a black screenw ith a blinking cursor19:26
gnomefreakah i missed his question19:26
magicianlordDr_Willis: so i can install nouveau and not configure anything?19:27
gnomefreakmagicianlord: it is installed for you19:27
zack1after installing 10.04 on a new hard drive for my laptop, I recieve this error "error:out of disk." upon booting. i have a prompt that says "grub rescue>" I'm at a loss as to what to do. I was also having problems installing xp as well. Is it the hard drive?19:27
Dr_Willismagicianlord:  nouveau is imnstalled by default I thought. My nvidia cards DONT work right with it.. and it does seem to be the default19:27
gnomefreakmagicianlord: install the nvidia drivers from jockey-gtk19:27
gnomefreakDr_Willis: it is but no 3D support19:27
Dr_Willisgnomefreak:  it barely works with 2d on my box. :) has a lot of other issues also.19:28
lopeki installed 'libircclient' library from ubuntu repository, tried to compile some example code and received this: http://pastebin.com/9pHzmKcx19:28
gnomefreakDr_Willis: it does and always will. nididia doesnt really "support"(lack of better word) it19:29
alexander_i'm just going to call barnes and noble n try to get my money back19:29
Dr_Willisalexander_:  good luck with that.19:29
alexander_yeah fat chance eh19:29
Barnabaslopek, you need the development files to with your library19:29
NemesisDhow to i get a startup script to run at boot (without using some gui tool to do so)19:29
Dr_WillisOne of the many reasons i dont do 'e-books;'19:29
Barnabasthey are also in the repository19:29
josephseraosguntbert, When I changed hostname, My pc continues with old hosname19:29
gnomefreakrestart than19:30
lopekBarnabas well, i've installed libbircclient-dev19:30
lopekhmm19:30
headkase314alexander_: Regarding DRM -> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/19:30
alexander_thanks headkase314 i'll take down the url19:31
Barnabaslopek, then the sourcecode is not compatible with the version of your library19:31
sharifHello19:31
sharifHow to open terminal as admin ?19:31
zack1Upon booting I get the an "error: out of disk." message. What does this indicate?19:31
bastid_raZorsharif: in a terminal type: sudo -i19:31
guntbertjosephseraos: you mean the prompt in the terminal? like joseph@oldhost ? just try to open a new terminal window19:31
headkase314alexander_: You're welcome, it's an offshoot of GNU philosophy -> http://www.gnu.org/  GNU is a big part of Linux and Ubuntu19:31
gnomefreaklopek: did you try sudo apt-get build-deps <packagename>19:31
nikitisDoes vmware server automatically use port 5900 for remote connections?19:32
Netsanhey guys, have some question19:32
gnomefreakNetsan: ask it please19:32
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Netsansome friend of my bought some netbook that ubuntu was install on him from start.19:32
Netsanfrom default i mean,19:32
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guntbertsharif: you usually don't do/need that19:32
Netsanand the user is: user, but he dont know the password19:32
tensorpuddingdoes ubuntu come with an MTA?19:32
Netsanany idea?19:32
lopekgnomefreak i didn't, i'm not really in compilation ;)19:32
gnomefreakNetsan: please keep it on 1 line19:32
Netsansorry.19:32
magicianlordNetsan: just reinstall it19:33
josephseraosguntbert, well, when I open a new terminal, it was change, but on LAN, my pc didn't change19:33
WetWired_ALUG2Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.19:33
Netsanmagicianlord: no other idea?19:33
gnomefreakNetsan: it will be easier to reinstall19:33
gnomefreakNetsan: ask the seller of it19:33
Netsani know, but he dont know how to do it19:33
magicianlordNetsan: maybe it's 'user' or none. or you can boot into it from a live flash stick and add another user19:33
mikebeecham...and does anyone know how to root a 2.2 rom on the Galaxy?19:33
gnomefreakwhat he used but he should have never sold it without giveing a password19:33
sharifHow to go to filesystem in terminal ?19:34
gnomefreaksharif: what dir are you looking for19:34
sharifvar directory19:34
psycho_oreoscd /var19:34
gnomefreaksharif: you start in $HOME19:34
guntbertjosephseraos: that part "but on LAN, my pc didn't change" was not clear for me, what did you try?19:34
moesianHello I'm trying to run a command in my maya bin directory called mayapy. I get the following when I try to execute it: "mayapy: command not found". I can see the command there. How would I go about resolving this?19:34
magicianlordNetsan: can you do it for him19:34
WetWired_ALUG2Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.19:35
psycho_oreosmoesian, it might not be in $PATH19:35
sharifto write $home19:35
Dr_Willismoesian:  the command has a : in its name? that dosent seem right.19:35
ilovefairuzmoesian: ./mayapy19:35
Barnabasmoesian, chmod o+x mayapy perhaps19:35
Dr_Willismoesian:  or is it in the current directory?  (im missreading i think)19:35
josephseraosa local web19:35
josephseraosLAN19:35
Dr_Willismoesian:  the 'current directory' is not in the default path. thats why you need the ./command syntax19:36
josephseraosguntbert, Local Area Network19:36
ilovefairuzmoesian: that's if you're in the directory of the command, if you're not, type the full path, like /opt/maya/bin/mayapy19:36
guntbertjosephseraos: yes :-), but how did you try to reach your pc over the LAN?19:36
lopekgnomefreak i've tried, no difference19:37
moesianDr_Willis: ./mayapy worked thankyou, I was in the directory19:37
josephseraosguntbert, on a windows station19:37
TechMiXHi all! is there a way to find out what is playing on rhythmbox right now?! i mean maybe it's stored in a file or smthing19:37
josephseraosguntbert, I put \\myNewHost19:37
josephseraosguntbert, Then I can't connect, but with \\oldHostName I got it19:38
kushalsejwalI have a brand new laptop 320GB , want to install ubuntu in it, no dual boot with windows! How to do the ideal paritioning? (also how many primary and logical paritioN?)19:38
chrissharp123!partitioning | kushalsejwal19:39
ubottukushalsejwal: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap19:39
josephseraosguntbert, understand?19:39
guntbertjosephseraos: ah I see .. you windows machine doesn't know about the new name - windows networking is (for me) a rather complicated thing - try to restart your ubuntu machine (as you said earlier) - that could help19:40
sharifHow to set permissions on var/www files ?19:40
bquadrahi19:40
ilovefairuzTechMiX: you can get it through a dbus call19:40
TechMiXilovefairuz: could you explain more?19:41
josephseraosguntbert, OK.. I'll try restart to see. Would be great don't need to restart, right?19:42
harmandeephi Guys19:42
harmandeep need help with VMware Workstation with windows Guests on a Linux Host ...19:42
harmandeepon UBUNTU Host19:42
sharifIs this correct : chmod -R 660 /var/www/folder/19:42
harmandeepproblem is regarding plugging USB Devices IN and OUT of VM19:42
harmandeepI am able to PLUG-IN USB Devices in Windows Guest without any problem , but when i DISCONNECT those devices , they don't work on Linux HOST19:42
harmandeepwhat you need to do is to not DISCONNECT those devices physically, but to use the DISCONNECT button to make it visible back on linux HOST19:43
ilovefairuzTechMiX: many application provide a cross-application accessible interface called dbus, through which you can call code of another application, rythembox providesa dbus interface to make other application capable of communicating with it, this is an example of using it for pidgin http://blog.viamentis.com/articles/tag/pidin-rhythmbox-dbus-ipc/19:43
Barnabassharif, you probably do not want the same permissions on directories and folders19:43
headkase314TechMix: enter: "rhythmbox-client --print-playing" at a console without the quotes19:43
guntbertjosephseraos: yes it would be great, but that is not a problem of ubuntu but of the "master browser" not updating its data19:44
Barnabassharif, find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; will find all directories and set them to something reasonable19:44
theclawHi. I'm using a encrypted root filesystem, it's been encrypted by the ubuntu installed. Is there any documentation on how I have to set up a new hard disk so that ubuntu can boot from it?19:44
theclaw*by the ubuntu installer19:45
Barnabasfor files  find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;19:45
TechMiXilovefairuz: thank you very much, usefull info. didnt notice dbus at all.19:45
ilovefairuzTechMiX: you're welcome19:45
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TechMiXheadkase314: seems easy! thank you19:45
dummyHello. Could you please tell me where VLC expects the channels.conf file?19:46
shariffind: missing argument to `-exec'19:46
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headkase314TechMix: You're welcome!  That command would be useful for scripts.. ;)19:46
sharifBarnabas, find: missing argument to `-exec'19:47
sharifim not sure why19:50
FlechaDoes anyone hows a software for energy management of a group of computers? Something that, installed in the server, will shutdown the machines that are not been used.19:50
Flechaknows*19:50
kb3ienany idea how to make my X sessions persistant accross heads?19:50
kb3ieni'd like to be able to change user A to B on head1 and then login as A again on head2 and reattach the same session.19:51
Barnabassharif the \; in the end is very important19:52
hspaansFlecha: check the power management settings in GNOME19:52
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guydoingstuffhaving an issue with a lost partition.  following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost%20Partition19:53
guydoingstufffdisk does not see drive.  BIOS does.  guide does not work because drive is not seen in live session19:54
Flechahspaans, but I would like to use a neural network for this. So on some moments it would leave more machines on, because those moments use to have more people19:54
Barnabasguydoingstuff, have you been fiddeling with the partition table, or has this come about by itself ? It could be a disk error. And then you would be better of making a dump of the disk to a file19:56
josephseraosguntbert, the "hostname" command didn't change the hostname19:57
kishajosis there anyone who plays or played CSS on Ubuntu?19:57
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guydoingstuffBarnabas, everything is backedup.  I fiddle with the machine alot.  advanced newb class?  underlying issue was something with grub219:57
guntbertjosephseraos: did you edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts ?19:57
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guydoingstuffNOw I can reinstall19:57
guydoingstuffi cant I mean19:57
josephseraosguntbert, no, I didn't19:58
livingdaylightwhat is the command line to install something with wine, please?19:58
guydoingstuffwhy would bios see the HD and ubuntu does not?19:58
llutzlivingdaylight: wine foo.exe19:58
Barnabasguydoingstuff, the first thing is to determine if there is anything important on the disk you need19:58
livingdaylightllutz, cheers19:58
guntbertjosephseraos: you should have - ubottu told you about it19:58
Barnabasif not reinstall19:58
guntbert!hostname > josephseraos19:58
ubottujosephseraos, please see my private message19:58
frenchyis it possible to use nvidia drivers on a livecd?19:58
josephseraosguntbert, I thought the hostname command would do it19:59
HeadAchehello. would anyone be able to help with (livecd) install to a ssd (shell, fdisk)?19:59
romanrishafkhas anyone successfully set up ubuntu to act as a media extender to the xbox36019:59
romanrishafkother than just music19:59
guydoingstuffi can reinstall.  Nothing important that cant be accessed somewhere else. I love backintime app.20:00
guntbertjosephseraos: no, that was only temporary, please follow the advice from ubottu20:00
guydoingstuffNow I cant reinstall.  I doesnt see the drive20:00
guydoingstuffbios does20:00
Barnabasguydoingstuff, you should test the disk then20:00
arekhelo..20:00
headkase314romanrishafk: I have, using uShare.  uShare is in the Ubuntu repositories.  It needs to be run in a console when you need it with: "ushare -t -x".  It is picky about the file formats for video, xvid/mp3 works well for the format.20:01
Barnabasdd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<disk> THIS WILL WHIPE THE DISC CLEAN20:01
abhijitany help regarding my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154239120:01
guydoingstufftake it out and put it in an external HD case...?20:01
romanrishafkheadkase314: and this is compatible w/ 36020:01
josephseraosguntbert, Oh.. I didn't pay atention20:01
josephseraos:-)20:01
BarnabasAnd it will take a while20:01
guntbertjosephseraos: :)20:02
headkase314romanrishafk: It is compatible with 360 when you use the "-x" command option.  It does NOT transcode the file formats though so your source files have to be in a format that the 360 accepts.20:02
sharifhow also to make the files and directories to be chomd20:03
romanrishafkheadkase314: thanks for the info20:03
anomalyany recommendations for text to speech on linux?20:03
nikitisI like seriously need help with VNC!    I can't find anything useful on this subject.  I want to connect via vnc to my vmware guest ubuntu on port 5904.  Why can't I do this without first logging into gnome?  It won't let me do it before I log into gnome.20:03
ravenCP how to skip existing files20:03
guydoingstuffthanks barnabas20:04
ravenCP how to skip existing files20:05
headkase314romanrishafk: you're welcome, there is also: http://www.getdeb.net/software/Fuppes Fuppes from GetDeb but I have no experience with that!20:05
Mike_Flipwhere would I find the inf file for the b43xx driver on an acer aspire 5000?20:06
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kanitoque tal20:06
Barnabasromanrishafk, I successfully use mediatomb20:06
BarnabasFreeBSD -> ubuntu and DNLA enabled tv20:06
kanitoalguien por ah20:07
czr_hi all. is anyone aware of a backup-program that was designed for remote storage with encryption (when one doesn't trust the remote storage provider like S3 or similar)20:07
tensorpudding!es | kanito20:07
ubottukanito: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:07
kanitook20:08
danielebuona sera..è la prima volta che uso x chat20:08
danielevorrei sapere per scaricare i film dove devo andare20:08
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HeadAcheneed installation help (fdisk / alignment). if you can help, please let me know.20:09
nikitisHow does one setup a remote login nowadays with 10.04?  Since xdmcp has been obliterated?20:09
ilovefairuznikitis: NX?20:10
nikitisilovefairuz: what is that?20:10
ilovefairuzHeadAche: pastebin fdisk -l20:10
josephseraosguntbert, I got it20:10
josephseraosguntbert,  thank you20:10
ilovefairuznikitis: http://code.google.com/p/neatx/20:10
guntbertjosephseraos: you're welcome :-)20:11
nikitisilovefairuz: So is VNC like obsolete?20:11
ilovefairuznikitis: not but a lot less efficient20:11
RealOptyilovefairuz, whats better than vnc?20:12
nikitisilovefairuz: is there a way to connect via your android phone through NX?20:12
KrisKoRealOpty: try nxserver20:12
ilovefairuzRealOpty: very compressed20:12
RealOptyhow come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?20:12
ilovefairuz!it | daniele20:12
ubottudaniele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:12
RealOptynice20:12
abhijithow can i make cairo dock only start at startup in gnome session and not in kde session?20:13
RealOptymight i add im using nvidia drivers20:13
josephseraosguntbert, Hey, I sent you a private message. Could you answer me, please?20:14
kushalsejwalI want to make a separate partition to put my data like music, video etc into it so that it get backup and won't get erased in future clean install. What should I di?20:14
danielegrazie...20:15
th_I have a dual screen setup. I was wondering if its possible to expand menu bar to second screen20:15
ilovefairuzczr_: deja-dup20:15
abhijitkushalsejwal, you can have your separate /home20:15
RealOptyKrisKo, hmmm so nomachine is great for VNC? seems to be kinda a little too much just for remote desktop20:15
dadawgcan anyone help me with a samba problem?20:16
dadawgwhen I run the findsmb command nothing appears20:16
hazardWith this installation, I thought I'd try using more defaults, so I stuck with the Transmission torrent client that was installed "out of the box" so to speak.20:16
hazardANybody happen to know how to get Transmission reporting stats to the trackers?20:16
czr_ilovefairuz, can it be automated via cron without requiring a graphical login or X at all?20:16
ilovefairuzRealOpty: nomachine is not VNC, but similar in purpose though not identical, it's more like remote GDM logins20:17
RealOptyah20:17
kushalsejwalabhijit, I have bought a new laptop today 320 GB please guide me what should be the ideal paritions?20:17
ilovefairuzczr_: it's a GUI application, if you want something scriptable, try rsync or scp20:17
nikitisi'm trying to get some kind of remote login working.20:18
nikitisi'm having no luck20:18
frenchydoes anyone here have an nvidia card and are using tvout/component out?20:18
nikitisthis NX seems to have to download and compile from svn20:18
abhijit!pm | kushalsejwal20:18
ubottukushalsejwal: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:18
czr_ilovefairuz, neither rsync nor scp work for this, but I foudn out that deja-dup uses duplicity under the hoods and it looks like more what I'm looking for. thanks for the hint.20:18
kushalsejwalabhijit, okay :(20:18
dadawgnvm apparently I had to use "Connect to Server"20:19
abhijitkushalsejwal, i will tell you. but i dont have any solid reason for that scheme. better you ask someone else or decide yourself.20:19
ilovefairuz!paste > HeadAche20:19
ubottuHeadAche, please see my private message20:19
josephseraosguntbert, Ok. You was great! Tnaks a lot! See you20:19
guntbertjosephseraos: have a nice time20:19
kushalsejwalabhijit, please share, I will then decide for myself :)20:20
ResQuei am following a tutorial on how to use pgp, i understand how to encrypt messages, but i would like to know how i can sign the message i send, so the receiver knows its from me20:20
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ResQuedo i just sign the file after its encrypted20:20
ResQuedetach0sign?20:21
tensorpuddingResQue: are you using gpg from the command line, or from in a program?20:21
ResQuedetach-sign*20:21
ResQuetensorpudding: command line20:21
abhijitkushalsejwal, the simplest is using all disk for '/'. thats the easient to install and maintain too. another one is having your /home on different partition. now it may be renge in 40-50gb as per your need. i generally need 70gb. remaining you can assing to /20:21
danieleserver film20:21
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tensorpuddinggpg --sign is used for signing20:21
evudHello. I have ubuntu 9.1 with Eclipse installed on it. I updated all the packages and now whenever I open Eclipse it crashes, any ideas what to do?20:22
abhijitkushalsejwal, this might help you though the article seems old: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/apcs03.html20:22
tensorpuddingevud: try opening eclipse from inside a terminal and pastebin the error message20:22
kushalsejwalabhijit: okay20:23
ResQuetensorpudding: i see, so i can sign a message to prove its form me, or sign a public key in my db to prove its legit. is that right?20:23
evudtensorpudding: here is the message http://vargof.pastebin.com/0YYs52Nt and here is the file with more information about the error http://vargof.pastebin.com/3Ei8Ng1D20:23
subcoolHey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails20:23
tensorpuddingResQue: yes20:23
ResQuetensorpudding: thank i was getting a little confused, with it being used for more than one task, but it makes sense now signing  thank you20:24
guydoingstuff@barnabas.  I think it is a bad HD.  I popped it out and tried getting the liove session to see it as an external hd.  it did not work20:25
HeadAcheInstall help needed (fdisk, aligning). need many aspirin. :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471586/20:25
RealOptyso whats the main reason to use nomachine?20:25
tensorpuddingevud: i'm afraid i don't really know, it looks to me like a bug with xulrunner?20:27
ResQuewhat is a quick way of searching for a string within a man file20:30
ResQueso man gpg for example, i want to look for the string "a"20:30
jpdsResQue: "/a"20:30
nisstyre65Researcher: man gpg | grep "a"20:31
nisstyre65uh20:31
nisstyre65ResQue20:31
ResQuejpds: thank you,20:31
ResQuenisstyre65: thanks20:31
joeeI need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor20:32
nisstyre65ResQue: the | pipes the output of man to the input of grep20:32
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Chopinncan ubuntu 64 bit run 32 bit programs? like windows?20:33
evudtensorpudding: he, i removed xulrunner(I don't know what that even is) and Eclipse now works just fine! Thank you20:33
ilovefairuzHeadAche: did you paste?20:33
jeiamhello (:20:33
jeiammay i ask a question?20:33
joeeI need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.20:33
ilovefairuzChopinn: mostly, yes20:33
tensorpuddingI think xulrunner is what firefox uses for something, but I'm not sure what.20:33
ridinChopinn, yes20:33
_hunter_Chopinn: but not all of them20:34
tensorpudding!ask | jeiam20:34
ubottujeiam: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:34
TeslaTonyChopinn: Yes. There are a handfull of programs that might give you a headache, but I've run into very, very few20:34
josephseraosjeiam, you did :)20:34
josephseraosjeiam, Other?20:34
joeeI need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.20:34
jeiamas a it department administrator, i have been considering switching my business to linux for a long time20:34
ilovefairuztensorpudding: xulrunner is mozilla's runtime and rendering engine, more like a JVM for java20:34
tensorpuddingHmm, so removing it would most likely cause firefox to no longer function20:35
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ResQuei am trying to find just the letter "a" on its own in a man file, but i keep coming back with every word that contains an a, how can i search for just "a" or "-a" on its own20:35
ilovefairuztensorpudding: depends on what version you have installed, but if something requires it, it will prompt you before removal20:36
jpdsResQue: "/ a "20:36
jeiami have now switched all the computers in the business to run linux ubuntu20:36
joeeI need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.20:36
tensorpuddingI'm only saying this in regard to evud's issue with eclipse20:36
ResQuejpds: haha i really should have thought that one through . thank you20:36
jeiamhowever, i'd like to set the computers up to use the exact same software as before20:36
tensorpuddingjeiam: the same software as before you switched to linux?20:37
joeeI need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.20:37
jeiamtensorpudding: yes20:37
guntbert!repeat > joee20:37
tensorpuddingjeiam: what did you switch from?20:37
ubottujoee, please see my private message20:37
Chief#javabeats.FM20:37
joee!eatshit > guntbert20:37
jeiamtensorpudding: windows xp sp3. i would like to set the computers up to run microsoft office 2003 and internet explorer 820:38
tensorpuddingjeiam: if you switched from some version of Windows, you're not going to be able to use all of it, probably only a small portion20:38
jeiamhow can i do this?20:38
ilovefairuztensorpudding: eclipse requires xulrunner to render web content inside itself (like its welcome screen and web previews)20:38
jpdsjeiam: You'd have to use Wine to run those, or just use alternatives like OpenOffice and Firefox.20:38
tensorpuddingjeiam: I believe Crossover will support Office 200320:38
ResQueThank you so much people, i dont think moving to linux would have been so easy if it wasnt for all the help people in this channel give for free. it can be very stressful sometimes, and talking to people who have done it before really helps. So THANK YOU to anyone how offers help for free in here.20:39
tensorpuddingjeiam: It mgiht also run in Wine, but that's less certain.20:39
ilovefairuzjelam: but openoffice is very smiliar, free, and runs on windows, mac and gnu/linux20:39
jpdsOffice 2007 works fine under Wine 1.2.20:39
tensorpuddingjeiam: CrossOver is not free though.20:39
jeiamjpds: unfortunately, alternatives to microsoft internet explorer 8 will not be justifiable, as our corporate intranet requires internet explore20:39
jpdsjeiam: Ew.20:39
nitesup20:39
jeiamdoes microsoft develope an internet explorer for linux?20:40
nitewhy would you ever want to use it..  firefox always.20:40
ResQuejeiam: can you not just run ie with wine, or even terminal servies20:40
ilovefairuzjelam: get someone from google to talk to them about chrome and their Chrome Frame for IE20:40
k00giezjeiam:  you can run it through wine20:40
redjeiam: no :P20:40
headkase314jeiiam: I vouch for Crossover Linux.  It runs Microsoft Office almost perfectly.  Crossover is a paid app and unless there is a specific reason you can't work around by using OpenOffice then you should really consider the Open alternatives.20:40
jpdsnite: You joined to late to see why.20:40
ilovefairuzk00giez: no, not IE820:41
niteit happens20:41
k00giezhi ilovefairuz really20:41
tensorpuddingjeiam: It's unfortunate, but IE8 isn't supported in Wine or CrossOver20:41
ResQuejeiam: or run ie on windows inside a vm like sun virtualbox20:41
tensorpuddingjeiam: I believe that IE7 is though20:41
jeiamdoes openoffice support the same functionality as microsoft office? does it support doc and xls?20:41
ilovefairuzjelam: using free/open source alternatives will cost less, be more manageable in the long term20:41
niteI've attempted to conform IE7 to Wine..  no luck, but it is possible20:41
_hunter_jeiam - yes20:42
tensorpuddingjeiam: It supports doc and xls, not sure about docx20:42
redopenoffice is an awful awful suite20:42
redit works, but is not nearly at the level of ms office :p20:42
jeiamdocx support is a must20:42
_hunter_jeiam - but open office can't open microsoft data base20:42
ilovefairuzjelam: yes it does, please download a copy and conduct a feasibility test for your corporate20:42
_hunter_jeiam - docx support too ;]20:42
headkase314jeiam: It will read practically most files you receive and you can "save as.." to Microsoft Office formats but sometimes there are small errors in the layout of the documents you send to others.20:42
ResQuetensorpudding: i think it opens docx, but will not save it, in the offical release20:42
tensorpuddingjeiam: It will not support everything that Office 2003 supports, you might have to give it a try and see yourself.20:42
redand foremost, the openoffice powerpoint equivalent is .. no words to describe it20:42
wilton#sexo20:42
HeadAcheneed install help (livecd/fdisk/aligning). sadly in a bit over my head.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471590/20:43
jeiamdocx support is good news - unfortunately it is an absolute imperative that it supports everything that microsoft office supports20:43
jeiamdoes openoffice support presentations?20:43
ilovefairuzjelam: you may also use the free web-based office suit from mircosoft to open any problematic documents20:43
_hunter_emm, yes ? :P20:43
erUSULjeiam: yes20:43
_hunter_just like i said20:44
_hunter_open office only don't support mdb20:44
jeiamokay, i will look into both of these suggestions - thank you all very much!20:44
headkase314jeiam: Since you're already on Linux you should already have OpenOffice installed.  Do some tests?  Try to open some documents you already have and see the results?20:44
_hunter_mdb = microsoft data base (access)20:44
abhijit_hunter_, what is mdb?20:44
tensorpuddingjeiam: If Office support is paramount, and you have licenses for 2003 that you bought and paid for, it would probably be best to purchase CrossOver and use Office through that.20:44
abhijit_hunter_, ok20:44
_hunter_abhijit, no problem20:44
ilovefairuzjelam: also check http://office.microsoft.com/20:44
niteopenoffice comes embedded already, most of the time..  but either way, easily doomed into your distro use.20:44
jeiamheadkase314: i am on my home computer right now, but tomorrow i will look into openoffice support20:45
subcoolHey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails20:45
subcoollil help- my boot is kinda messed up20:45
jeiamfrom what you have all said, it sounds like a decent replacement for the microsoft suite20:45
erUSULjeiam: all this info can be gathered in the oo.org website20:45
Tux414I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my mic doesn't work at all. I have tried gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and it isn't helping much.20:45
jeiamerUSUL: thank you very much for your help :)20:46
jeiamokay, as for my second problem with internet explorer, does microsoft release an internet explorer for linux?20:46
ilovefairuz!sound | Tux41420:46
ubottuTux414: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.20:46
_hunter_no,20:46
niteuse firefox..20:47
nitelol20:47
_hunter_jeiam...20:47
ilovefairuz!who | _hunter_, nite20:47
ubottu_hunter_, nite: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:47
jeiam_hunter_ yes?_20:47
headkase314jeiam: Microsoft does not generally support Linux for reasons stemming from their business model.  There is no Internet Explorer on Linux.20:47
_hunter_!jeiam it's a heresy :P20:47
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:47
madhu_hi20:47
tensorpuddingi believe they once did release an IE for Unix-likes20:47
tensorpuddingthat was ages ago though20:48
tensorpuddingAh, IE5 was the last version supported on Unix20:48
jeiamheadkase314 _hunter_: so there is no way of running internet explorer on ubuntu?20:48
_hunter_!jeiam no20:48
tensorpuddingjeiam: IE6 will run in Wine and CrossOver20:48
abhijit!ot20:48
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!20:48
tensorpuddingjeiam: Newer versions are not going to work20:48
madhu_i have a problem with pppoe  , it alway show modem hangup20:48
madhu_plz suggest me what to do20:48
headkase314jeiam: As stated I'm pretty sure Crossover will run up to IE7 but for IE8 no.20:48
jeiamtensorpudding: my business requires internet explorer 820:48
_hunter_!jeiam but you have other, like firefox, google chrome, opera20:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:48
ilovefairuzjelam: google releases a very good web browser for windows, mac and gnu/linux, it can be even used as the "engine" for existing IE installations, giving you the advantage of having the same IE interface but using a modern, very secure browser20:48
tensorpuddingjeiam: There is an IE emulation mode in Google Chrome I think.20:49
tensorpuddingOr was that Firefox that had that IE mode20:49
ilovefairuztensorpudding: it's called, Chrome Frame20:49
_hunter_i think that was firefox20:49
_hunter_i don't see it in chrome20:49
jeiami'm not sure if any of these suggestions are feasible - my business develops websites for the internet explorer browser20:49
ilovefairuztensorpudding: _hunter_: firefox has an IE Tab, it's a different thing20:49
tensorpuddingIt was an extension20:49
Tux414I tried other forums and I tried on ubuntu website and had no luck20:49
ResQuewhy does one need to use ie anyway, i mean it reads data in an opensource format? what do you have that needs I.E?20:49
Tux414I had some help in ubuntu women but still having no luck20:50
tensorpuddingResQue: corporate intranet software requires IE, is what jeiam said20:50
jeiamResQue: my business develops websites for internet explorer.20:50
ilovefairuzjelam: unless they use very specific technologies, like activex, using a different modern browser, won't be a problem at all20:50
ResQuetensorpudding: did he mention the software, 80% of the time i have had problems i just changed the refer head in firefox and it worked fine20:50
jeiamilovefairuz: we require that our clients do not use a different browser :(20:50
mawstNetflix uses activex.20:50
mawst:/20:50
tensorpuddingIn this world with Mac and Linux and mobile devices, requiring people to use IE is just ridiculous20:51
erUSUL^20:51
ResQue^20:51
erUSULhear hear20:51
TeslaTonyIn this world with Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, etc. it's silly to require IE20:52
wildejaHi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks20:52
jeiamtensorpudding: other browsers are not in high enough demand for our company to develop for them. there is an ie for mac, i am to understand? also, mobile devices have ie mobile.20:52
erUSULnot to mantion you must follow standars... and IE is *not* a standar20:52
ResQuewith html 5 and the iphone i think we will be seeing a lot less of activex and flash, i hope so anyway20:52
ilovefairuzjelam: then you'll end having to tear your web interface and rebuilt it at  some point n the future, supporting popular modern browsers is a lot easier now than before20:52
TeslaTonyScrew the operating systems. You have to deal with all those browsers regardless of your platform20:52
tensorpuddingjeiam: Which mobile devices use IE mobile? Surely no iPhone or Android phone or Blackberry?20:52
headkase314jeiam: Your requirements are "locking-in" to Microsoft technologies.  Open alternatives take more work but generally give you more control - if that is a priority for you - over your own information.20:52
tensorpuddingjeiam: IE for Mac hasn't been supported in years.20:53
Tux43My internet connection information speed says unknown or  1mbps does anyone know how to fix this?20:53
jeiamheadkase314: microsoft technology is a standard in the workplace, which is why we require it :/20:53
_hunter_so why you install ubuntu?20:53
jeiami was unaware that ubuntu lacked support for microsoft technology before i installed it20:53
phaerjeiam: Why do you just support ie? Most things should be quite easy in cross-browser dev nowadays.20:54
ilovefairuzjelam: most modern browsers just use one of two engines, gecko and webkit, so they work in a very very close manner20:54
ResQuejeiam: Hold on MS isnt the standard in the work place, its the standard in your work place20:54
niteVM Widows and use Office20:54
jeiamphaer: most of the sites we create often do not display correctly in sites other than ie...20:54
tensorpuddingVirtualization probably isn't an option for underpowered office computers20:54
nitetrue...  underpower is such a depressing contept.. I love my beast..20:55
ilovefairuzjelam: than you have incompetent web developers20:55
jeiamResQue: and other workplaces besides.20:55
koioshi all20:55
ilovefairuzjelam: professional web developers keep compatibility in mind at all times20:55
niteI often forget my VMs require such taxing on my processors..20:55
phaerjeiam: Well then its a problem of your sites. It should be possible for any company to accept web standards and create a few workarounds for old browsers like ie 6.20:55
sweetpiilovefairuz: amen20:55
jeiamilovefairuz: i'm not allowed to comment on the skill of my web developers ;)20:55
scribawffirefox3.5 bundled w/ubuntu 10.04 fails/crashes to start what do I do?20:55
headkase314jeiam: You need to re-think your situation very carefully.  Open is a very sound position, proprietary technologies are the opposite of that.  You need a top to bottom evaluation of your priorities.  Google "Open Source vs. Proprietary" to get some reading materal.20:55
koiosdoes anyone know a website indicating speed up of of Lucid at boot time ?20:55
headkase314*material20:56
ResQuejeiam: i admit that a lot of work places use windows, but its not the standard every where, and 90% of windows network will be reliant on a linux kernal somewhere in there inferstructure20:56
ilovefairuzjeiam: no need to comment, it's obvious20:56
phaerscribawf: Try to start it from a terminal and look at the output.20:56
tensorpuddingjeiam: I'm sure you're not solely responsible for your businesses decisions, and we're not trying to denigrate your business, but if you wish to only support Microsoft's software, you should definitely stick to Windows, because no other OS is able to20:56
High_Priesthi ppl, I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X1120:56
padhuI want small games to play in ubuntu 10.04. please list out. Don't point playdeb.20:56
phaerscribawf: If you do not understand it, paste it on a pastebin site and put the link in here ;)20:56
kyubutsutake it to offtopic, folk20:56
scribawfphaer: OK will give it a try tu20:56
ResQuepadhu: not so much a small game, but look for savage 220:56
HeadAchewould very much like help with install. sadly in over my head (livecd/fdisk/aligning).  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471596/20:56
niteMicro$oft true facts..  proprietary..20:57
padhu ResQue: sure20:57
nitehence..  OPEN SOURCE floats my thoughts...20:57
wildejaHi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks20:57
ResQuepadhu: its a very very additive game, works on mac, windows and linux nativly and is a mix between an RTS and a FPS20:57
ResQuepadhu: and its free, there is a pro version but only for clans and scoreboards and stuff20:57
phaerpadhu: Frogatto! Its a nice jump and run20:58
padhuResQue: apt-get ?20:58
ilovefairuzwildeja: specify the name of the application20:58
phaerpadhu: Or maybe OpenTyrian its a retro aracde shooter20:58
wildejailovefairuz, Battle Tanks20:58
ResQuepadhu: no you will need to download it, they dont have a repo so apt-get will not work, you can download the binary from20:58
nite<<<<  OpenSuse, Mint 8 & 9, BT4...  choose your weapon..20:58
niteapt-get...  to got get..  etc..20:58
nitego*20:58
ResQuepadhu: http://www.savage2.com/en/main.php20:59
padhuResQue: thank you20:59
ResQuepadhu: i will give you a game later if you like, i got work todo now20:59
ilovefairuzwildeja: sudo apt-get install btanks20:59
BiggFREEilovefairuz: What is ndiswrapper ?20:59
wildejailovefairuz, I downloaded the latest version v0.98 but now realise i dont have a clue to get it working20:59
BiggFREEIs it right written ?21:00
nitendiswrapper provides setup possibilities for your wiress NICs21:00
padhuResQue: sure, it is for childrens 10 year old21:00
ilovefairuzwildeja: ubuntu has the most recent version, use the command i've given you21:00
erUSULwildeja: it seems to be a mod for warcraft iii you need the game installed ( dunno if it works in wine)21:00
BiggFREEnite ... ty21:00
nitenormally is the only way of getting your wireless to recognize in any of the Ubuntu distros21:00
erUSULwildeja: either way no very ontopic here21:00
ResQuepadhu: also if you have any ideas for simple games let me know, i run a small amature games dev team. and we are focusing on 2d cross platform games at the moment21:00
jeiami would love to switch entirely to non-proprietary software, but at the moment my business explicitly requires internet explorer :/21:00
ilovefairuzBiggFREE: it's a wrapper to use windows wireless drivers on gnu/linux21:00
vershanhi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it21:01
erUSULjeiam: then stay on windows. join ##windows21:01
stukadhey, anyone tryed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ (10.10) ?21:01
wildejaerUSUL, Not talking about warcraft, must be mix up, i asked about installing program to ubuntu21:01
ResQuejeiam: i think you need to run internet explorer then haha21:01
jeiamso until non-proprietary software is the norm, i'm afraid i must stick to my companies wishes21:01
padhu ResQue: ok21:01
niteJeiam, I understand and it's unfortunate..  so, keep your head in the opensource game and your work status in the Micro-shit areas..  it'll get better sooner or later..21:01
wildejaerUSUL, sorry21:01
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headkase314jeiam: That is called being "locked-in" and generally puts your business at a disadvantage as you are not Free to choose the best technology rather you must align with your proprietary vendor.21:01
BiggFREEilovefairuz: What is the right name ?  apt-get did not find it.21:01
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ilovefairuzjeiam: you'll gain a lot more than what you'll lose in the short term21:02
High_PriestI need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?21:02
vershanhi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it21:02
jeiamheadkase314: is there anyway to deal with the locked-in situation?21:02
nikitisI'm so pissed off.  Why is it so hard to get a vnc server to run on boot, and log into it and get a gnome login screen??    Can someone please for the love of all that is holy, help me out with this?21:02
erUSULwildeja: this ? http://btanks.net/v2/ then read.... i quote « n Battle Tanks you have to buy tanks, weapons and equipment to destroy the enemy base. The map requires Warcraft III The Frozen Throne. Here you can download the latest version. »21:02
kyubutsu!offtopic | jeiam21:02
ubottujeiam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:02
Tux414jeiam: What kind of problems are you having with firefox on Ubuntu?21:02
BiggFREEilovefairuz: What is the right name ? apt-get did not find it.21:02
tensorpuddingnikitis: have you looked into xdmcp?21:02
jeiamkyubutsu: i am not off-topic, as this is a specific ubuntu-related question.21:02
vershanhi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it21:02
wildejasorry hadn't a clue21:03
nikitistensorpudding: YES, and it's broken in 10.0421:03
jeiamtux414: my business requires internet explorer :/21:03
headkase314jeiam: Research and go through the one-time pain to move to technology that is Open and Free.  See: http://www.gnu.org/ as a primer on Free and research what you particularly need from there.21:03
tensorpuddingnikitis: broken?21:03
nite... is on BT4 at the moment..  so much better..21:03
stukadwhats the difference with 10.10 alpha 1, alpha 2 and the daily build?21:03
nikitistensorpudding: yes as in code has changed, no longer supported,  doesn't work21:03
ilovefairuzjeiam: setup  pilot test experiment with only a small group of employees (convert them completely to gnu/llinux) and see how things go,21:03
vershanhi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it21:03
Pici!maverick | vershan stukad21:03
ubottuvershan stukad: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+121:03
jeiamilovefairuz: this is a good idea that i think i'll put to test :)21:04
kyubutsujeiam: how is your business requiring internet explorer ubuntu specific.. take it to #offtopic21:04
niteJeiam, i'd love to be a fly on the wall when you run the test piloting for your emps on linux..21:04
shuraneIs there a smaller ubuntu channel? I find it hard to get questions answered here, since it's so large.21:04
HeadAcheare you guys sure you arent getting trolled  by the micro$oft questioning?  ...it sure seems like it to me21:04
wildejaThanks all, sorry again for the misunderstanding, gnite21:04
ilovefairuzjeiam: and if you encounter any problems with gnu/linux software, come here and ask21:04
jeiamilovefairuz: in the meantime, is there a way i can move the rest of my business back to windows and internet explorer?21:04
scribawfbundled firefox 3.6 fails to start in ubuntu lucid w/this output from terminal Attempting to load libmoonloaderxpi21:04
scribawfSegmentation fault   what this mean?21:04
nikitistensorpudding: so how else can I get a vnc server to load on boot, connect to it and get a gnome login?21:04
ResQuepadhu: before i forget if you are looking for an mmo there is dofus21:04
ilovefairuzBiggFREE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper21:04
tensorpuddingjeiam: Reinstall windows and the software you had on the machines.21:05
redshurane: you could try your local ubuntu channel21:05
Tux414jeiam: Any web page that can be viewed on IE can be viewed on other web broswers. In fact Internet Explorer 8 which is the latest verison doesn't support html 5.  Is there a specific reason why you have to use internet explorer?21:05
tensorpuddingjeiam: I hope you kept backups?21:05
ResQuepadhu: its a bit of a strange game and written in flash, but i head it works ok on linux very strage type of game play21:05
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redusually #ubuntu-xx21:05
jeiamtensorpudding: the machines had oem copies of windows - is there a way of restoring this without having to purchase new licenses?21:05
BiggFREEilovefairuz: ty21:05
ilovefairuzjeiam: back up your data, reinstall, restore backups, etc, pretty typical process21:05
nikitisSo nobody here connects their boxes to vnc without first logging into gnome?21:06
High_Priestif I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?21:06
sweetpijeiam: ##windows21:06
Tux414jeiam: Which version of windows did you have?21:06
jeiamilovefairuz: we don't take backups of workstations - only the file and network servers21:06
kyubutsuTux414: stop feeding the troll21:06
ilovefairuz!ot | Tux41421:06
ubottuTux414: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:06
kyubutsuwe need an op really21:06
jeiamjeiam: microsoft windows xp with service pack 321:06
ilovefairuzjeiam: we can't help you if you don't keep backups21:06
shuranered: cool, thanks21:07
sinurgewhatz a zsync file21:07
Picijeiam: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?21:07
jeiamilovefairuz: i see - is there a way i can restore the copies of windows WITHOUT backups? ://21:07
ilovefairuzjeiam: we don't offer windows support21:07
ilovefairuzjeiam: please stick to ubuntu-related questions21:07
jeiamPici: i am trying to move my business to ubuntu, and i am enquiring for ubuntu-related help :-)21:07
RealOptyhow come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?21:08
ResQueyou could use a linux boot disk to repair you hardisk, or to recover a currupt partiion very easly21:08
Q_Continuum10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?21:08
Picijeiam: It looks like you're asking about Windows.21:08
nikitisAnyone?21:08
jeiamPici: i am asking about *moving away from* windows.21:09
headkase314jeiam: Please consider contacting Canonical directly.  They have business support options that may suit you.  Without knowledge you can trawl a lot but Canonical will actually be able to assist you in a meaningful manner.21:09
nitewindows YUCK21:09
ResQuei done that 100s of times just search ubuntu data recovery21:09
High_PriestI need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?21:09
Picijeiam: So what *exactly* is the question.21:09
jeiamheadkase314: thank you very much :-) i will try this - are canonical likely to be able to help me set up internet explorer on linux?21:09
koioshi guys, how can I speed up boot time of my 10.4?21:10
ilovefairuzPici: it's already answered, don't bother21:10
jeiamPici: i have moved my business to linux, but we require internet explorer on all of our machines.21:10
headkase314jeiam: I am beginning to doubt your sincerity as that question has already been answered.21:10
jeiamheadkase314: ?21:10
ResQueHahahahaha21:11
ResQue:-D21:11
kyubutsuthere are other questions to be answered, let us move on.. tired of this windows chat21:11
Picijeiam: I don't believe  that any current version of IE will work on Linux (i.e. with WINE).  Your only other option would possible be crossover office or virtualization.21:11
High_Priestyessir_turan, like mine21:11
High_Priest"yes"21:11
High_Priestand its about ubuntu :)21:11
jeiamPici: okay - thank you very much for your help :-)21:11
Picijeiam: I don't know anything about crossover office, so you're on your own there.21:11
koiosyep21:11
High_PriestI need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?21:12
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jeiamHigh_Priest: create the file. xorg.conf has not been created by default for several releases now.21:13
High_Priestthis is the first time I'm using ubuntu21:13
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ilovefairuzHigh_Priest: switch to run level 3 and run: Xorg -configure21:14
niteHigh_Priest:  and you'll never go back to the dark side of micro$oft...  good choice..  but I would suggest OpenSuse or Mint also..21:14
red__hi any one know how i get send a text free from my pc21:15
High_Priestnite, actually I was using slackware for years, and had winblows on my laptop, but got sick and tired of it so I thought of trying some other more friendly distro on my laptop21:15
kyubutsuHigh_Priest: have you checked system>preference>mouse21:15
ilovefairuz!ot | red__, search google21:15
ubottured__, search google: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:15
High_Priestkyubutsu, yes, but nothing interesting there21:16
High_Priestwill Xorg -configure ask me all the details or it will create the config with current options?21:16
High_Priestand also21:17
High_Priestif I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?21:17
stukadanyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?21:17
ilovefairuzHigh_Priest: no, it will generate an xorg.conf with default configuration21:17
High_Priestilovefairuz, gr8, thanks21:18
Pici!paste | red21:18
ubottured: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:18
yodaddydoes anyone know how to install silverlight threw the wine application?21:18
edbianIs there a setting for what opens in a new tab in firefox?21:18
guntbertnite: please keep to ubuntu support in your comments21:19
nikitisQuestion:  When I added x11vnc to /etc/rc.local and rebooted after setting the execution bit.  Why won't x11vnc not let me connect?21:19
headkase314youdaddy: The Linux alternative to SilverLight is MoonLight http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Have you explored that?21:19
niteoh relax21:19
blitzothumbdrive: need to make a file system: gparted and fidsk won't write a partition table.  it's not mounted.  what am i doing wrong?21:20
stukad!TRIM21:20
ilovefairuzedbian: no, edit > preferences, but there are addons that add more options like an opera-like speed dial21:20
edbianilovefairuz, Ok thanks.21:21
nikitisWhere did all the smart people go?21:21
blitzohow to make a file system on a thumbdrive?21:21
BiggFREEilovefairuz: What are advantages of changing RUNLEVEL ?21:21
stukadanyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?21:22
ilovefairuzBiggFREE: keeping activity to a minimal21:22
phaerblitzo: mke2fs /dev/<thumbdrive device> will make an ext2 fs.21:22
jpdsstukad: I don't think it's enabled in the Lucid kernel.21:22
High_Priestif I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?21:22
BiggFREEilovefairuz: Thanks a lot21:22
blitzophaer, don't i have to partition it?21:23
kyubutsu!runlevel | BiggFREE21:23
ubottuBiggFREE: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.21:23
joonaHey, is it possible to make a standalone program (.i386?) from a source coed?21:23
BiggFREEkyubutsu: Thanks21:23
phaerblitzo: Not necessarily. But you can do that either with (c)fdisk /dev/<thumb> on the command line or System -> Administration -> Disk Utility21:23
padhuany network usage recorder in ubuntu 10.04?21:24
wiseyi've noticed that some pc's have two cpu sockets on one motherboard, with each socket running a multi-core cpu. What is the advantage of doing this?21:24
madjoehey guys, can anyone help me to remove the old flashplayer and install a new one in my Chrome?21:24
nitequick question..  what would someone recommend as a prime portscanner for Linux?  I've had issues with some..21:24
Utrinqueparatuswhy doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?21:24
coz_joona,  many times  compiling  the source code withouth installing it makes an executable that ca be run21:24
edbiannite, nmap21:24
jpdsnite: nmap21:24
nitenmap works, sometimes..  don't know why it fails so often.. looking for an alternative option..21:25
joonacoz_:okay, so I'm quite a beginner when it comes to source codes, would you have time to explain more to me e.g. how to21:25
jpdsnite: How does it fail?21:25
coz_joona,  alot depends on how the developer designed it however./..in "general""  to compile it is   ./configure  then run make21:25
joonaokay21:25
nitecorrupt sourcing..  and inability to read.. but only sometimes...21:25
niteso, alternative?21:25
nikitisI'm seriously gonna cry.  I've been on this problem for 6 hours.  Can someone work with me to figure out how to get a VNC Server to load on boot and allow me to connect to it without first logging into gnome?21:25
nitejust to compare to..21:25
blitzolsof gives an error "WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/dd/.gvfs" there is no such file or directory - what does it mean?21:26
coz_joona,   at that point the executable should have been made  and it can be run  with ./nameofapplication   when you cd into the source package after having run both ./confgure and  make21:26
headkase314joona: See -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo21:26
jpdsnikitis: You mean like XDMCP?21:26
ilovefairuzBiggFREE: kyubutsu: that's correct, must've mixed it with another distro21:26
coz_joona,  otherwise a    "sudo make install"  would be run to actually install the application onto the system21:26
joonacoz_: okay, I'll try. Thank you!21:26
jimbo_When I use "Preferences -> Monitors" to activate and rotate my monitors, how can I find out what commands Gnome is using to do that?  It's xrandr I assume, but I need the full commands.21:26
nikitisjpds: How can I get xdmcp to work on ubuntu 10.04?21:26
jimbo_nikitis: sure I can probably help with that, gimme a bit.21:27
coz_joona,  whichever application...look for a  "INSTALL"  or "README"  file located inside21:27
coz_joona,   read both of those21:27
High_Priestilovefairuz, how to switch to runlevel 3? telinit 3 or init 3 does not work21:27
blitzohi coz_, can you let the ciaro-dock folks know that their new anti-spam filter prevents me from posting altogether?  i can no longer participate in testing at all and have given up.21:27
jimbo_nikitis: I've had good success with xtightvncserver in the past.21:27
jpdsnikitis: You can't. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/40841721:27
padhuwhy compiz cube top & bottom will not show ubuntu LOGO?, It shows only blak colour21:27
ilovefairuzHigh_Priest: ignore the switching21:27
coz_blitzo,  really???21:27
coz_blitzo,   let me check21:27
phaerjimbo_: Read the source code. But the easy solution would be to read man xrandr for everything you'll need.21:27
blitzocoz_ all my posts have been rejected21:27
High_Priestilovefairuz, yes, but Xorg -configure reports that X is already running21:27
padhusolid*21:28
jimbo_phaer: I know enough about xrandr, just want to cheat and use gnome's computed values, which are ideal.21:28
coz_blitzo,   ok join the #cairo-dock channel   matttbe is there now21:28
sirninjahow can I improve compiz performance if I all I really want from it is the expo plugin?21:28
panax3how can I togger the file path name on a print in open office?21:28
ilovefairuzHigh_Priest: alt + ctrl + f2, sudo service gdm stop, sudo Xorg -configure21:28
panax3toggel that is21:28
headkase314padhu: Enable Cube Deformation and Reflection.  You can set the top and bottom images in that plugin21:29
nikitisjpds: Hey, this has to be supported.  You can't just drop remoting into a linux distribution?  That's part of what Linux is about21:29
lathani have a question that I asked earlier, but not sure how to do it. i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?21:29
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jimbo_phaer: actually I suppose `xrandr -q` shopuld give me everything I need after gnome sets things up, huh?21:30
padhuheadkase314: how can i install it? apt-get ?21:30
aronaliagahola21:30
aronaliagano me funciona el chat español21:30
aronaliagaalguien me hecho una mano?21:30
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Flannelaronaliaga: /join #ubuntu-es21:31
aronaliagaalguien habla español?21:31
ZachK_!Spanish | aronaliaga21:31
ubottuaronaliaga: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.21:31
headkase314padhu: It is in "CompizConfig Settings Manager" in synaptic search for that, I don't know the actual package name, also in synaptic install the extras package too.  Then it all appears under System > Preferences.21:31
aronaliagahola21:31
aronaliagaalguien habla mi idioma?21:31
midari, pero no aqui21:31
aronaliagano me funciona el chat en español21:31
Cheval_BoiteuxHi everybody, I'd like to know how to restore the mbr of my windows21:32
aronaliagaesq no me funciona21:32
guntbert!es | aronaliaga21:32
ubottuaronaliaga: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.21:32
headkase314padhu: Synaptic is under System > Administration21:32
Nnamearonaliaga,21:32
padhuheadkase314: I installed it, ok, i will try it21:32
Nnameentra en #ubuntu-es21:32
ilovefairuzaronaliaga: Escribe: /join #ubuntu-es21:32
Nnameeste canal es solo ingles21:32
aronaliagajoder21:32
aronaliagapues tu hablas21:32
headkase314padhu: good, every setting for compiz is there!21:32
aronaliagamuy bien español21:32
aronaliagaq te cuesta21:32
FloodBot1aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:33
NnamexD21:33
aronaliagaesq parece racismo21:33
aronaliagasi no me funciona21:33
Nnamees que en este canal solo se puede hablar en ingles21:33
aronaliagaq mas21:33
aronaliagada'21:33
r4z0rw0lfCheval_Boiteux: Do you mean the MBR install by windows?21:33
FloodBot1aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:33
padhuok, thanks....21:33
qniksthello, can you paste output of commands `uname -i` and `uname -a` please21:33
qnikst?21:33
ilovefairuzaronaliaga: either talk in english or leave21:33
Cheval_Boiteuxr4z0rw0lf, yes because GRUB deleted it21:33
Cheval_Boiteuxand I can't boot on windows7 any more21:34
lathancan anyone help with my question?21:34
ilovefairuz!details | lathan21:34
ubottulathan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:34
lathani have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?21:34
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nikitisjimbo_ you still here?21:35
lathanbasically, i want to take my sd card's live version of UNR and make it a full install on my internal hdd21:35
ResQuehow can i get the gpg key of GnuPG i tryed to gpp --search, but 100s come up for gpg.21:35
ResQuei want there public key so i can verify there data21:35
iceroot!usb | lathan21:35
ubottulathan: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent21:35
ilovefairuzlathan: what changes are you trying to transfer, which program?21:36
icerootlathan: hm not that whati thought21:36
r4z0rw0lfCheval_Boiteux: I think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828 may help you21:36
ilovefairuzResQue: verify whose data?21:36
lathani want to transfer all installed programs, files, etc.21:37
ResQueilovefairuz: GnuGP21:37
ResQueilovefairuz: i downloaded there gpg app and i want to use the gpg.sig file to check its auth and not currupted21:37
Cheval_BoiteuxThx r4z0rw0lf, I'll tell you if it works21:37
ResQueilovefairuz: but i can find GnuGP public key21:38
ilovefairuzResQue: what happen ?21:38
qnikst.çôêå21:38
NativeAngelshas anyone here used ubuntu on a sunfire v10021:38
ResQueilovefairuz: nothing everything is fine, i just following a tutorial on how to use it21:38
ilovefairuzResQue: sorry, which app? link ?21:38
ResQueilovefairuz: www.gnupg.org21:38
ResQueilovefairuz: i am downloading software from www.gnupg.org and i want to there public key21:39
Cheval_Boiteuxr4z0rw0lf, it doesn't work21:39
Cheval_Boiteux"couldn't find package ms-sys"21:39
ilovefairuzResQue: http://www.gnupg.org/signature_key.en.html21:40
lathanso, can anyone help me with transferring my live-persistent sd contents of Ubuntu netbook remix to my internal hdd as a full install, keeping my files and installing programs on the full install21:40
ilovefairuzlathan: what changes are you trying to transfer?21:41
ResQueilovefairuz: thank you, how did you find it, so i know for next time?21:41
slow-motionhi21:41
ilovefairuzResQue: two clicks on the website ?21:41
ResQuedid you use a key server or just google there domain, i couldnt see anything on there homepage21:41
lathaninstalled programs, files and such, like i've installed chromium, media players, yada yada21:41
ilovefairuzlathan: you could transfer application settings by copy the .* stuff (like the directories) in .config21:42
ResQueilovefairuz: i see, guess i just missed the link, what link did you click on the homepage first?21:43
ilovefairuzlathan: i think (and i could be wrong) that the persistence file uses unionfs and so merging it completely is rather very tricky21:43
cablophow can i reset the keyring?21:44
cablopit said me one day that the pwd changed and now asks my password all the time :(21:44
shuraneis ~/.bash_login called when you log in?21:44
ilovefairuzResQue: click on "integrity check" and then in "using gpg" there's a link for "signing key" but it's kinda ambiguous21:44
cablopi don't know21:45
cablopw21:45
ilovefairuzcablop: did you change your user password?21:45
cablopyes i did21:45
lathanso, there's no way to fully install UNR with the contents of my current live-persistent version of UNR?21:45
cablopand it's so annoying for some commands like svn...21:45
cablopilovefairuz: yes, i did21:46
ResQueilovefairuz: i see, yes i even read that page to get started and missed it, guess it kind of defeats the point getting the key from the same site you download from but i am only testing it21:46
ResQueilovefairuz: thanks21:46
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r4z0rw0lfCheval_Boiteux: try installing msys from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ms-sys21:46
ilovefairuzcablop: http://www.48da.com/2010/01/19/reset-gnome-keyring-password-on-ubuntu.html21:46
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grubtroublehi, is there a safe way to update grub/ update linux kernel?  i keep getting an unbootable system :(21:47
cablopthanks ilovefairuz21:47
grubtroublei have a double boot windows/ ubuntu but im scared to update21:47
Cheval_Boiteuxr4z0rw0lf, when I try to repair the boot of windows with its DVD, the OS isn't recognize. So I can't try commands like "Bootrec.exe /Fixmbr". You understand ?21:47
mcnellisHow can I create a link that will go to the actual link's final path?21:48
guntbertcablop: don't use sudo passwd ... to change the password, instead use the "me" menu, that way the keyring password should stay in sync21:48
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: boot livecd and open a terminal: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l21:48
n0pzHaving an issue, desktop effects say they cannot enable. I tried activating proprietary drivers but it says, diffrent version of this recommended driver is in use. Lets me activate but then i restart to blinking cursor and have to recover mode reset Xorg.conf.21:48
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High_Priestscroll fixed :)21:48
andrewaxhi21:48
andrewaxThat's issue with caps lock was really a bug21:49
lathananyone?21:49
cablopguntbert: where's that me menu?21:49
edbiann0pz, Check out the compiz check script! http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check21:49
grubtroubleilovefairuz, http://pastebin.com/Pf0VFyUd21:49
mcnellise.g. I have my ~/Documents folder link to ~/Dropbox/Documents but I'd like ~/Documents to essentially redirect to ~/Dropbox/Documents (so my right click menu has the Dropbox features)21:49
n0pzWhen i go to nvidia settings it says you are not currently using a nvidia driver please use Xorg -Nvidia to create Xorg.conf then i do it and restart to same blinking cursor/login.21:49
n0pzedbian okay will do. :)21:49
edbiann0pz, It's very helpful :)21:50
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: you have two gnu/linux installations? which one is the most recent version ?21:50
cablopmcnellis: maybe thtough a hardlink21:50
guntbertcablop: in the right upper corner you find your user name , click on that and select the first entry21:50
andrewaxdoes mouse works in screen in your Ubuntu installation?21:50
andrewaxIn X.Org, it works if I type TERM=xterm21:50
r4z0rw0lfCheval_Boiteux: Yeah I understand, What exactly is wrong with your system? did you install GRUB over the original MBR?21:51
andrewaxbut in console, with gpm, not21:51
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grubtroubleilovefairuz, i had an ubuntu installed from windows.. but during update it became unbootable.. so i reinstalled froma livecd this time21:51
ilovefairuzmcnellis:  doesn't work this way21:51
n0pzedbian I dled and ran it, it said more than one graphics chip detected. Cannot handle that. Aborted.21:51
cablopguntbert: ah! i've never realized it as my me menu... i thopught that was just an ubuntu one thing21:51
edbiann0pz, Do you have more than one graphics card installed or something?21:51
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: so which one has ubuntu? sd5 or sd7?21:51
andrewaxilovefairus: do you installed ubuntu with wubi?21:51
n0pzIts a laptop and I believe it has both Intel & Nvidia graphics. One for saving power and one to run for high performance.21:52
Utrinqueparatuswhy doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?21:52
ilovefairuzandrewax: not at all21:52
grubtroubleilovefairuz, /dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)21:52
ilovefairuzandrewax: but why ?21:52
surfereddieEnter text here...hello all21:52
edbianandrewax, It is possible to install using wubi but that is not a normal install.  The proper way is to use a live CD and create a new partition(s) for ubuntu.21:52
edbiann0pz, MM sounds very tricky.  I'm not sure what to do.  Never worked with anything like that before!21:52
grubtroublei had a wubi too that went wrong :(21:53
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: ok type, in a terminal: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt21:53
andrewaxilovefairus: I know what, if you install Ubuntu inside windows with wubi21:53
surfereddieanybody using NX server?21:53
edbiansurfereddie, Hi21:53
d9500lathan, does your computer see the persistent-SD card as simply another /dev/sdX device?21:53
n0pzedbian That blows. =( lol. Thanks anyways. =)21:53
andrewaxilovefairus: and Ubuntu doesnot boots anymore21:53
mcphailsurfereddie: occasionally21:53
edbiann0pz, Good luck. Make a forum post. !forums21:53
guntbertcablop: :-), you can change your password from CLI too -- just type passwd (don't use sudo for this)21:53
andrewaxilovefairus: a simple chkdsk in windows ca solve this problem21:53
edbian!forums21:53
ubottuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.21:53
grubtroubleilovefairuz, it's already mounted. im in it now.. i just fear that when i upgrade grub it will become unbootable again21:53
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: then: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda21:53
nubixHey, someone here who has experience with installing the 10.04 version from an usb drive? I got some trouble because the installation says its not possible to determine the codename for the release.21:53
nubixit's the alternate install21:54
andrewaxilovefairus: but if Ubuntu is phisically installed, you can try a fsck or reinstall grub21:54
grubtroubleim pretty sure updating grub will make it unbootable, since it's in such a weird state now :(21:54
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: make what unbootable?21:54
grubtroublemy computer21:55
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: if ubuntu is installed correctly on sda7, then it will work just fine21:55
mcnelliscablop: hard link not allowed for a directory it seems. ilovefairuz so it's impossible to get the original path?21:55
surfereddieanybody know the command to exit the text editor ie.  :sudo ti /etc/ssh/sshd_config21:55
magicianlordsda7? why do you have 7 partitions21:55
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble:  (and assuming you did BOTH commands)21:55
grubtroublei already spend 2 days getting it back to this state21:55
nikitiscd #gnome21:55
andrewaxsurfereddie what text editor?21:56
surfereddiewhen you do "sudo ti"21:56
grubtroubleif i run the update manager and it upgrades grub and kernel, how can i be sure it wont be in a nonbootable state again?21:56
ilovefairuzmcnellis: the extra features are only for that special directory21:56
High_Priestif I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?21:56
erUSULsurfereddie: vi ? press ":q" then enter21:56
r4z0rw0lf#cbase21:56
andrewaxi never hear about ti21:56
surfereddiewhere in the heck do you find that21:56
andrewaxin vi you can type :q!21:56
erUSULHigh_Priest: try; if something depends on it apt will tell you21:56
High_PriesterUSUL, thanks21:57
mcnellisilovefairuz: yes I know, that's why I want to get redirected to the special directory lol21:57
surfereddiethanks both of you21:57
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: to what state? if ubuntu is booting fine now, then what is your problem ?21:57
erUSULsurfereddie: if you want to save changes you have to do ":wq"21:57
Tallcan you help-me?21:57
erUSULsurfereddie: in the future use nano. is easier.21:57
joonaTall: What's your problem?21:57
Tallchannel in Portugueses is #Ubuntu_BR?21:57
grubtroublemy problem is , when grub updates, it runs scripts and overwrites things... making it unbootable... andi have to spend another 2 days getting it back in order :(\21:57
surfereddieI'm just trying to get NX server running so I can practice without haveing to switch monitors and keyboards21:58
ilovefairuzTall: ubuntu-br21:58
andrewaxsurfereddie vi can be very hard for beginners. Neither I dominate it21:58
lathanso, can anyone tell me what I would need to do in this situation? I have a 2 GB SD card with a Live-Persistent version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 on it. Now, I want to install this on my internal HDD, but I want to transfer all the stuff from my SD version to the full install (as i've installed programs, made changes to the OS, etc.). I would just copy the SD to the HDD completely, but the SD is a "live" version. any ideas anyone?21:58
Tallgreat21:58
andrewaxsurfereddie you can try nano or mcedit what are more friendly21:58
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: then use the commands i've given you21:59
surfereddieI nano in the software center?21:59
andrewaxnano alread come installed ;)21:59
ilovefairuzsurfereddie: yes it is21:59
erUSULsurfereddie: is installed by default21:59
andrewaxyes21:59
surfereddieandreway, do you use NX server?21:59
andrewaxjust type nano21:59
andrewaxno21:59
|grzesag|Hi I need to set up ssl over http using virtual host?21:59
grubtroubleilovefairuz, what guarantee do i have grub is in an ok state after running that?21:59
andrewaxthere is no nano available?21:59
grubtroublehow can i tell ?21:59
ilovefairuz!who | andrewax21:59
ubottuandrewax: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:59
ilovefairuz!who | grubtrouble22:00
ubottugrubtrouble: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:00
magicianlordlathan: copy your home directory files, but reinstall the apps22:00
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: tell what?22:00
lathanthere's no way to avoid reinstalling everything?22:00
magicianlord!bacon22:00
d9500lathan, see my earlier message. if the machine sees it as another standard disk drive (that is, a /dev/sdX device) then you may be able to clone it.22:00
grubtroubleilovefairuz, tell me it will give me a boot menu at bootup in stead of a prompt that i dont undersatnd22:00
magicianlordyouhave to write the image22:00
magicianlordto copy all22:01
TallBrOffice waht wireter pps?22:01
lathanyeah, someone mentioned !clone, but i don't know what that means22:01
magicianlordyou'd have to use clonezilla or something similar22:01
d9500lathan, are you in the live-persistent sd session now?22:01
ilovefairuzgrubtrouble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 , there you go, you're on your own from now22:01
lathani am22:01
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ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:01
grubtrouble:(22:01
lathani'm booting up gparted right now22:01
frenchyis there a way to get HD resolutions for an nvidia card without an xorg.conf?22:02
lathanmy internal HDD is sda and my live-persistent sd is sdc22:02
grubtroubledont things like grub get tested before they put an update in the update manager? :/  sorry but i have 0 faith left in it running well22:02
d9500ok, then the machine sees it as a /dev/sdX device, so you're good. you should, I think (never tried it) be able to use clonezilla in disk-to disk mode to clone the SD t a hard drive.22:03
c3lfrenchy: the nvidia controll center doesnt wkrk?22:03
lathanwould that make the HDD version a live install though? and not a full-install?22:03
irvkenwhat does it mean if you have agreen dot in front of your nick in the nicklist in xchat22:03
gotrootHello, I have a Ubuntu Server.  I have installed IRC-Hybrid, it has compiled and installed fine.  However I can't connect to 127.0.0.1.  How come?22:03
surfereddiemcphail, you just helping out in here?22:04
mcphailsurfereddie: just lurking tbh22:04
Hilikusgotroot: are you sure the server's running?22:04
d9500lathan, is the drive itself a live-only? or totally persistent, so that if you install in app when running ubuntu off the SD, then reboot, the app is still there?22:04
mcphailsurfereddie: i was looking out an nxserver howto i wrote a while ago...22:04
gotrootHilikus, how do I double check?22:04
nathanhelphave anyone upgraded from 9:10 to 10.04 overtop of their previous installation? I've heard some people only like installing each version, from a clean install. What are the pro's and cons to each method?22:04
guntbertirvken: you are op in that channel22:04
Hilikusgotroot: ps aux | grep serverName22:05
surfereddiemcphail - thanks I've been trying to figure it out for days22:05
lathanyes, it is persistent, that is, if i install something, it is still on my SD when i reboot. however, when ubuntu starts up i still click "test ubuntu" and i want to avoid this with a full install22:05
magicianlordnathanhelp: quicker to do fresh intall and less conflict.22:05
lathanbut at the same time, i want to keep the changes I made to my SD when I install UNR fully to my HDD22:05
nathanhelpmagicianlord :howso?22:05
iksffresh installs never go wrong really, and get fresh new better performance etc22:05
ilovefairuznathanhelp: clean install will likely give you a lot less problems, upgrade will keep all your existing settings intact, you can copy your home directory though22:05
surfereddiemcphail - i'd settle for local connection just so I don't have to switch monitor and keyboard22:06
gotrootHilikus, I never set a servername.  I can't find the ircd.conf anywhere.  However, from the looks of ps aux, the server isn't running22:06
mcphailsurfereddie: http://pastebin.com/RB4knjuM - it is a bit out of date as you'll see, but uses google's nx stuff22:06
Hilikusnathanhelp: i usually upgrade. most of the times i have no problems. the advtanges is that i highly customize everything so a fresh install needs customization all over again22:06
Hilikusgotroot: servername i mean the name of the process22:06
surfereddiemcphail - have you ever done it?  I'd hate to switch to another product.22:06
nathanhelpHilikus, yes that's where I'm leaning too. (customisation)22:06
gotrootgotroot    380  0.0  0.0   3320   792 pts/1    S+   22:06   0:00 grep --color=auto irc22:06
mcphailsurfereddie: see my paste - that's how i did it22:07
gotrootI think that's the server?22:07
Hilikusgotroot: if the process is called IRC-daemon then to grep IRC-daemon22:07
Hilikusgotroot: no, that's the grep command22:07
mcphailsurfereddie: i'm not using it at present22:07
z0r0what are alternative methods for installing ubuntu? Is there a way to run it on the same filesystem as my winxp?22:07
ilovefairuzgotroot: no, that's 'grep' itself22:07
nathanhelpis there a way to quickly "copy" customisations onto a new fresh install?22:07
Hilikusgotroot: look at the last column22:07
gotrootAhh, sorry :)22:07
ilovefairuz!install | z0r022:07
ubottuz0r0: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:07
gotrootHilikus:  I don't think it's running.22:07
Hilikusgotroot:  are you sure the server has irc in its name?22:08
ResQuegoodbye all22:08
lathanwhere did my helper go? :-p22:08
ilovefairuzz0r0: you're probably looking for the wubi method22:08
Hilikusgotroot: if it's not running you need to start it using "service"22:08
d9500lathan, cloning will keep the changes, but i'm guessing that there's something on the persistent sd, some kind of script or program that runs at boot, that generates that "try ubuntu" screen, so clozing wouldn't remove it22:08
d9500cloning*22:08
gotrootI'm not sure, I downloaded the server from irc-hybrid.com, done ./configure then sudo make && sudo make install22:08
Hilikusgotroot: sudo service irc_whatever start22:08
z0r0ilovefairuz: Thanks : )22:08
hiexpo!wubi > z0r022:08
ubottuz0r0, please see my private message22:08
Hilikusgotroot: why are you compiling it?? why not get it from the repos?22:09
gotrootHilikus: I followed the tutorial on the ubuntu website.22:09
Hilikusgotroot: what's the name of the server22:09
jribgotroot: where exactly?22:09
erUSUL!wubi > z0r022:09
ubottuz0r0, please see my private message22:09
c3lgotroot: when installing programs, allways try the repos first22:09
IdleOnegotroot: I suggest you read the irc-hybrid documentation22:09
magicianlordhmm22:09
frenchyc3l, it doesnt have HD resolutions22:09
surfereddiemcphail - whoa that looks good.  but the problem I think is something in my server authorization.  I'm to much of a networking noob22:10
erUSULz0r0: ooops sorry; did not see the previous one22:10
hiexpoerUSUL,  ^22:10
surfereddiemcphail- thanks again peace22:10
lathanso, what's the difference between full install and live-persistent, aside from the prompt to try/install ubuntu? i tried to do a full install to the 2GB SD, but it said I needed 2.4 GB free and my SD is only 2GB, so somehow the live-persistent, is only 700MB allowing for 1.3 GB of persistence. What makes the full-install so much bigger?22:10
gotrootHilikus, jrib, c31, IdleOne:  I read it from the tutorial here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer22:10
z0r0erUSUL: no prob.22:10
c3lfrenchy: thats strange, it should have all available resolutions. are you sure your GPU can handle it?22:10
Hilikusgotroot: use the first method they mentioned, not the second one22:10
IdleOnegotroot: try /server localhost22:10
hiexpolive persistant is on an usbdrive   > while a full instakk is on harddrive os22:11
hiexpo^install22:11
Dr_Willislathan:  its a trade off of speed and ram ussage.22:11
c3llathan: I guess the full one contains all packages unpoacked etc, go for the smaller one if you just want to install22:11
gotrootIdleOne: It says unable to connect.22:11
Hilikusgotroot: sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid22:11
gotrootHilikus: I will try that now.  Thankyou.22:11
frenchyc3l, yes it works fine on windows, its going to a rear projection HDTV throught the s-video out22:11
IdleOnegotroot: then the server is not running22:11
c3llathan: it contains all packages, or at least downloads them if any is missing after the install is complete22:11
Dr_Willislathan:  also if you ever try to 'update/upgrade' a live-persis. setup. You will fill up that 1.3gb real real fast22:11
c3lfrenchy: can svideo take hd?22:12
gotrootHilikus: Thankyou! :) It works!22:12
c3lfrenchy: im sorry, I dont know much about graphics22:12
lathanokay, so i guess i will just start over with a full install and just install things again as i need them22:12
Dr_WillisSvideo can not do 'HD' video last i checked. :)22:12
Hilikusgotroot: if you install from source you don't get all the post-installation configuration and you won't be notified of updates22:12
anon_In Nautilus, how do I move the tabs to the top?22:12
Dr_Willislathan:  a full install may not fit on a 2gb flash. I would suggest a 4 to 8gb at a min22:12
Hilikusgotroot: always go for packaged installations22:13
gotrootHilikus: Thankyou, I will always try the repo's first from now on :)22:13
lathanDr_Willis: yeah, my netbook HDD has a 4 GB partition, i will do a full install on that22:13
hiexpofulll install is best on an 8 gig22:13
Dr_Willislathan:  a  Hute 4gb! :0 I got 5+GB in just wallpaper and fonts. :)22:13
c3lgotroot: I must ask, why do you want to run your own irc server? there are pleny of servers, a channel or two would suffice22:14
d9500lathan, yes, what Dr_Willis said. That's not really a lot of space. You may also want to try something like Lubuntu (base ubuntu install but w/ LXDE instead of Gnome) which is a little smaller22:14
wolfriccan someone check this out for me... go cat /bin/rmdir and ctrl + z half way through and tell me what their terminal looks like22:14
lathanunfortunately, the OS that comes with an EEEPC 901 is horrible. and i don't have many options with the way they used 2 separate drives...22:14
wolfricit seems to completely screw up the font. if i just rerun the command it fixes it but until then (even logging in and out) it stays all screwed up22:15
erUSULwolfric: that's spected22:15
lathanhow do i refer to someone in the chat (i'm using pidgin)?22:15
wolfricwhy does it happen?22:15
c3llathan: or just skip the whole DE, use some slim wm and youre fine (if youre used to do some tinkering on your own to make things appear as you want)22:15
wolfriclathan: usually just like this22:16
erUSULwolfric: dumping random binary data in a terminal is a secure way to desconfigure it...22:16
lathancan I click on someone's name or i type it myself?22:16
Hilikuslathan: most clients have auto completion, type some keys and press tab22:16
hiexpolathan,  just like here22:16
wolfricerusul: could you do anything malicious with it?22:16
erUSULwolfric: the binary data has code/char secuences ( scape codes) that reprogram the terminal emulator22:16
lathanHilikus: thanks, that worked22:17
hiexpo^ = xchat tab22:17
Dr_Williswolfric:  use the 'reset' command to reset the terminal back to normal.. and stop catting 'binaries' to the terminal :)22:17
Hilikuslathan: np22:17
lathanc3l: what did you mean by skipping the whole DE (?) and use slim wm?22:17
erUSULwolfric: you can type "reset" hit enter when that happens ( there is a key combo too iirc )22:17
wolfricerusul: anyway to prevent it? other than catting binaries :)22:17
Dr_Williswolfric:  its printing binary  to the terminal. so its printing escape codes and other special termional codes.22:18
wolfrici was just curious if they were all compiled or were any shell scripts22:18
gotrootHilikus:  Sorry to bother you again, in the ircd.conf it says to encrypt my password using '/usr/bin/mkpasswd' however that doesn't exist on my system...22:18
Dr_Williswolfric:  use the 'file' command on a binary.22:18
erUSULwolfric: check with "file" first22:18
Hilikusgotroot: just type that in a terminal and see if ubuntu suggests a package that contains that bin22:18
Hilikusgotroot: otherwise, google it22:18
gotrootHilikus: Tried that, nothing.  Will google.22:19
wolfricah thanks @dr_willis @ erusul :)22:19
Hilikusgotroot: it worked for me22:19
lathani guess c3l is gone. So, for my 4 GB partition on my EEEPC 901. would I be better off with UNR or Lubuntu?22:19
Hilikusgotroot: hilikus@mazinger:~$ mkpasswd22:19
HilikusThe program 'mkpasswd' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:22:19
erUSULwolfric: most people do not realize that xterm and its ilk actually are emulating real hardware... (they are colling emulator for a reason )22:20
Hilikusgotroot: it suggested the right package22:20
c3llathan: gnome and KDE are DE (desktop environments) shipped with loads of packages and stuff, if youre short of space you should consider using a lightweight DE as previously stated, or like me for instance. im using xmonad and trayer. thats all I need, and its slim and powerfull :)22:20
c3llathan: how familiar are you with linux and so on?22:21
High_Priestwhat audio player do you recommend? I was using amarok before while I was on kde but I'd satisfy with some small nice clean player (playlist/controls)22:21
erUSULHigh_Priest: try the default Rhythmbox;22:21
lathanc3l: uh, not a lot. i can install things, i'm familiar with partitioning, but i don't stray to far from mainstream OSes as they have the most software available22:22
headkase314High_Priest: Seconded, Rhythmbox - especially with the radio browser addon from the repositories : 1000's of stations!22:22
c3llathan: to someone who is familiar with linux and looking for something really lightweight Id suggest archlinux, it doesnt really "just work", it requires some tinkering22:22
c3llathan: okay, 4 gig you say. gimme a sec22:22
headkase314High_Priest: Rhythmbox comes with some radio functionality but the add on is a different one to give many more stations.22:23
nikitisOn modern 10.04, how does one remotely log into a distribution before having to actually log onto gdm?22:23
lathanc3l: my only problem with less mainstream distros is usually the software that's available. or rather, fewer programs that can be easily installed. (for instance, ubuntu is usually an option when downloading a program).22:23
c3llathan: archlinux has it all22:23
c3llathan: check gentoo too22:24
lathani wanted to try out chromium os, but i don't have a 64-bit to compile the code22:24
lathanc3l: thanks, i'll check out those two22:24
c3lor just 'plain' debian. thats what ubuntu is in the core.22:24
karloanyone know any program or command (for terminal) which I can see clipboard history ?22:26
c3l"Damn Small Linux is a very versatile 50MB mini desktop oriented Linux distribution."22:27
lathanc3l: so will i have to worry about not being able to do something on archlinux that i could easily do on ubuntu? could i use wine for instance?22:27
headkase314karlo: Check out Pastie -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/pastie-very-simple-clipboard-manager.html22:27
guampagreets22:28
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karloheadkase314, ty22:28
headkase314karlo: You're welcome! ;)22:29
c3llathan: yeah, all common packages exists in the repos, and alot less common too. the community is really helpful and they have a great wiki where everything can be found. many of my ubuntu probolems and so often have their solution in arch wiki ;)22:29
zeroklone#topic22:29
zeroklonejoin #topic22:29
c3land its light!22:29
lathanc3l: cool, perhaps i'll check it out later22:29
lathanc3l: how light are we talking?22:30
c3llathan: yeah do that, but it expects you to do most of the work, or at least configure it to do it for you :P22:30
guampai've searched a lot but to no avail, my logs are full of "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector XYZ", root fs fills up, the vts are unusable. All this is with an audio cd on22:31
guampawhat on earth is it?22:31
janossome people know if is possible sand command AT^ to modem USB HSDPA UMTS with network manager22:32
hspaansguampa: if the disc is clean, then or your drive is broken or drm22:32
c3lguampa: not sure, but sr0 is your cdrom22:33
guampait isn't broken, i can read & write discs and this cd isnt drmed22:33
lathanwell, thanks, everyone, for the input. i'll do some review checking and maybe try a lighter distro.22:33
leGally_Madhello22:33
hspaansguampa: a lot of audio disc have drm on them without saying it on the box22:34
guampahspaans: this specific disc has a 1% chance of being drmed, i know sounds nonsensical but it's like that22:35
leGally_Madi am using ubuntu with wubuilder. can i install lynx on a system and overwrite wubi's folder on root,to get my settings and desktop environment22:36
SneebsHello!22:37
guampai'm kind of forced to have a disc in the drive, been 3 o 4 years that ubuntu throws lots of io errors (other kind) if i don't22:37
guampaand a data  cd wont do as it starts to index or cache something and spins too much22:38
leGally_Madanyone can reppy please22:38
munhi22:39
SneebsWould someone be able to help me with my version of 9.10 semi-crashing the system every time I try to boot from disk?22:39
guampathese two probs seem to be the last ones i have in my setup, i really wish i could do something about it22:40
mundoes anyone know how to change the default theme for gnome's menu bar? mine's always blue for some reason.22:40
GreenBerryMy friend gave me some Ubuntu disk to try out, but left no instruction on how to use it. Now I can't get my PC to run it.22:41
munI meant the bar where 'Applications', 'Places', etc. are22:41
Sneebs@mun: does this help? http://www.linuxnov.com/replace-default-gnome-menu-bar-with-gnomenu-applet/22:41
Sneebshttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009092300435OSGNSW22:41
Sneebshttp://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html22:41
Sneebs@ GreenBerry: what shows up[ when you stick the disk into the drive?22:42
munSneebs, thanks. i'll try that.22:42
SneebsI can't make promises, I just googled it.22:42
Sneebs;)22:42
GreenBerryIt's a window22:42
guampanoone with MCP based laptops has had IO errors?22:43
GreenBerry"Demo and full installation", "Install inside Windows", and "Learn More"22:43
Sneebs@GreenBerry: so, you stick the disk into the drive, a window pops up (I assume you're running this on a microsofy/windows system22:43
GreenBerryI am running Windows XP22:43
SneebsLucky man! I'm running Vista, my main reason for making me want to try linux22:44
SneebsGo to My Computer, right clikc on your CD rom drive (you know where that is?) and click explore22:44
excitatoryso I have an hp mini 210 netbook, and i've been following forum posts on how to enable some of the multitouch features of the trackpad.. everything is great except i can't click and drag, or drag and highlight.. any ideas?22:44
GreenBerryK22:44
SneebsI'm gonna assume no one can help me with my quandary, then?22:45
muddtuskI removed my connection, clock, and shutdown/logout items from a panel.  I restored the clock, but I don't see an option to restore the connection and shutdown button (the shutdown button is offered, but doesn't look the same or have options to customize it).22:46
GreenBerryAlright, It popped up a bunch of folders and Files22:46
edbianSneebs, What is a semi crash?  What disk, the hdd or the cd ??22:46
GreenBerryI'm unsure what to do with this CD22:47
SneebsSemi-crash is a term I'm just parroting from another source. it means that when I try loading the thing from disk, the screeen blinks on & off, the keyboards are sluggishly responsive22:47
morpfhello everyone22:47
GreenBerryLol, that's my pc half the time xD22:47
Sneebsi.e. keystrokes take upwards of minutes to show up22:47
Sneebs@greenberry: Okay, then22:48
leGally_Madcan some one hlep me out please22:48
SneebsCould you name any .exe files you see22:48
trismmuddtusk: the network applet shows up in the Notification Area, and the shutdown/logout items are in Indicator Applet Session22:48
edbianSneebs, This from the CD or the hdd ??22:48
Sneebsie.e their names22:48
Sneebs\This is from Cd, sorrt22:48
Sneebs&sorry22:48
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FloodBot1Ackbar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:48
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progrockanyone got a prefered CHM viewer for gnome?22:49
SneebsSo, Green, and .exe files named22:49
Sneebs?22:49
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GreenBerryThe only .exe is Umenu22:49
muddtuskAh, cheers trism.22:49
AaronMprogrock chmsee22:49
progrockAaronM: thank you22:49
morpfplease help. trying to install ubuntu 10.4 lts alternate amd64 on an hq compaq 6720s i allways get a black screen after choosing install in the menu. vga=788 and fb=false do not solve the problem. any suggestions?22:49
gbillingsI installed UNR on Ubuntu Desktop and now when ever i maximize a proram the window control bar is hidden. How do i fix this?22:50
SneebsHmmmOkay, Green. Anyrhing else?22:50
gbillingsmorpf, try here http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/107839-ubuntu-loads-then-goes-blank-screen-bahhh.html22:50
GreenBerryThat's the only .exe22:51
scotHey, has USB support in Virtualbox been shutoff in the ubuntu packages?22:51
mroziak#Mitril22:51
morpflife cd works without a glitch...22:51
icerootscot: yes22:51
morpfonly alternate won't do22:51
SneebsWhat about i other non.exe files22:51
trismscot: not shut off, not included, you need the proprietary version from the virtualbox website22:51
tensorpuddingscot: The USB support isn't included in the OSE is it?22:51
SneebsNo files called Readme?22:51
icerootscot: only the non-free version has usb support22:51
scotgah22:51
gbillingsmorpf, alright. what is the resolution of your monitor?22:52
GreenBerryThere is not a readme, no.22:52
SneebsOkay, Green22:52
scotWhy was it disabled, anyone know?22:52
icerootscot: it was never enabled22:52
Sneebs@gbillings: I think this is the problem I had too22:52
icerootscot: #vbox for questions like that22:52
daniel_treeI have an acer 5930g...ubuntu 10.04..and I am experiencing the same problem as this guys...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=966032022:52
morpf1280 x 80022:53
scoticeroot, well I got it from Ubuntu so...ok, i'll ask over there22:53
SneebsGreen:: ry the demo & install button on the window which came up.22:53
gbillingsSneebs: do you know of a solution? i am preparing for a fresh reinstall right now.22:53
GreenBerryK22:53
uRockscot, probably a ubuntu dependency issue22:53
GreenBerryIt says I need to reboot my machine22:53
icerootscot: there was never a usb-version in the ubuntu-repos22:53
Sneebs@gbillingsL that's why I came here. I don't know of a solution22:53
SneebsWiat a sec green22:53
SneebsWait..... mrof, this uis version 10.X, right22:54
Sneebs?22:54
scoticeroot, well I never used Vbox from the repositories before, I always got it direct from vbox, I thought it would be better to have managed version22:54
scotI guess I was wrong22:54
SneebsGreen, are you using the same comuter to chat with us as you are using to install linux?22:54
icerootscot: use the vbox-repo22:54
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gbillingsscot: i believe it is the same version in the repo as from the site. i think.22:54
icerootgbillings: no22:55
GreenBerryYes, I am22:55
uRockscot, I always load the version from the oracle site22:55
icerootgbillings: repo = free, website = nonfree22:55
hspaansscot: it is a license issue on the side of Sun / Oracle22:55
morpfgbillings, (forgot to highlight) my resulution is 1280 x 80022:55
SneebsOkay, green. This may get odd22:55
gbillingsiceroot: thank you. many thanks haha22:55
Sneebs@billings & Morpf: When you reboot, select F4 once the INSTALL UBUNTU screen shows up. Then select Safe mod22:55
GreenBerryOdd how? Dancing monkeys odd?22:55
gbillingsSneebs: i will try that later. thank you22:56
SneebsWalk home alone odd. Nothing necessarily dangerous, but uncomfortable for neophytes22:56
SneebsIdieally, you should be able to install. If not22:56
daniel_treeTyping freezes the screen temporarily :(22:57
=== gbillings is now known as LymeRa1n
scotwait so the version from ther vbox repo also hasn't USB support?22:57
Sneebs@gbillings: you nshould be able to install. Otehrwise, you'll run into the rpoblem I get when the machine starts to load, then the text of the command line starts blinking at siezure pace and keystrokes take minutes to register22:57
morpfgbillings, unfortunately the alternate cd doesn't have this option22:57
GreenBerryLol, I just wanted to get support because I know absolutely nothing about Ubuntu <.<22:57
scotso maybe I need the tarball instead?22:57
Sneebs@Gtreen22:57
SneebsNot big deal. You'll just have to go on your own without a chat.22:57
GreenBerryOkok22:57
GreenBerryI'll come back if there's a problem22:57
SneebsSorry, multitasking. Even with caffeinen & ADHD, I still haven't mastered it22:57
SneebsWait, Green22:58
SneebsI'll explain22:58
LymeRa1nSneebs, what are you talking about. I am slighlty confused. I am havaing a problem as my window control bar is hidden when maximized.22:58
coz_GreenBerry,  what sort of things would you like to know ?22:58
hspaansscot: correct, sun/oracle don't have any rights to the usb-code in vbox22:58
=== thyri0n is now known as zz_thyri0n
|grzesag|Hi can anyone here help me with ssl and virtual host settings please?22:58
GreenBerryAnything, really22:58
SneebsLeave @lyme: I don;t beleive I was speaking to you or was even aware of your problem. Sorry to confuse you! I was speaking to gbillings & morfph22:58
=== Gugu is now known as Gurty
Sneebs@greenBerry: Try this22:59
GreenBerryI know nothing about Ubuntu <.<22:59
trismscot: no, the version is the vbox repo has everything (usb, vrdp, etc)22:59
SneebsPut CD in drivbe22:59
guampais it okay to create /etc/modprobe.d/options if it doesn't exist? will it be recongnized or do i have to put options somewhere else?22:59
coz_|grzesag|,  I cant    but if no one can here you may want to try ##linux channel as well22:59
SneebsPress Demo and Install22:59
LymeRa1nSneebs, i am gbillings. changed my name22:59
trismscot: it is added automatically when you install the deb from their site22:59
Sneebs@Lyme: Oh, sorry22:59
wolfricanyone know of any good command line text to voice tools?22:59
|grzesag|coz_: thanks I will try22:59
GreenBerryK22:59
coz_GreenBerry,  ok  well...first thing to do is to  use it daily....and since you already know linux can do just about anything...and if somthing comes up and you say..."Wait...I would like to do this "   and you dont know how then ask a question....23:00
GreenBerryIt pops up asking if I want to reboot, reboot now, or reboot. Lol.23:00
Sneebs@Lyme:I was trying  to help MORPH,. I thought you knew your stuff & were an advisor23:00
SneebsOkay, Greenberry, once you click reeboot (reboot now, etc. I think the programmers here were having a lark)23:00
coz_GreenBerry,  did you just install a driver?23:00
GreenBerryNo.23:00
daniel_treecan someone pls take a look at this ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9660320..I have the same problem23:00
SneebsGreen: THe machine will reboot, and you should have a thing come up which says PICK YOUR LANGUAGE, then DO YOU WANT TO: (Install UBUNTU Ver Whatever), Boot from disk, etc23:01
ValerHi everybody I got a HUGE PROBLEM23:01
SneebsGreen: Try Boot From Disk23:01
trismscot: actually, no sorry, you need to add the repo manually23:02
SneebsThen you SHOULD do through a qucik install (it will store the OS on your computer's RAM) and you'll be able to get a feel for it23:02
ValerI made a DOS command and my partition can't be read by ubuntu23:02
coz_Valer,  spit it out :)23:02
LymeRa1nSneebs, i think we are all confused. OK. i know my stuff and am an experienced ubuntu user and can help people with numerous as i have my fair share of problems. I recenly tried to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix along side Ubuntu Desktop and it damaged my current installation. That was the problem. I very rarely ask question on here put frequently answer them. Thank you.23:02
tensorpuddingValer: what command23:02
coz_Valer,  ooooo23:02
Valerthis command is fdisk /mbr23:02
fridgeratorhaha23:02
coz_mm I dont think its' funny23:03
tensorpuddingis that the command which installs something to the MBR23:03
guampawhere do i put options for modules? seems like /etc/modprobe.d/options isnt used anymore in lucid23:03
fridgeratorfdisk /mbr wouldnt make it so ubuntu couldnt read the drive23:03
nqehow to check why an usb boot 10.04 does not boot from 1 system but does from the other?23:03
SneebsOh, I see Lyme! Sorry! I'm a neophyte, but thin I can advise some folks on afew basic things. Your experience supercedes mine, but I feel I ought to contrubute rather than just come here asking for help23:03
Sneebs@Green: it should also tell you what version of Ubuntu you're using at some point, which will help you amazingly23:04
LymeRa1nSneebs: its fine. everybody gets confused every now and then. it is completley understandable.23:04
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=== boran_ is now known as boran
SneebsGlad we got that cleared up. Sorry, I can't help you LymeRa1n!23:05
daniel_tree#linux23:06
scottrism, yeah I knew about the repos....I am not a complete newb :))23:08
scotthanks for your help BTW23:09
mccartneyhello23:09
scotI think I got it all running again...I was just shocked when I couldn't find USB support I knew used to be there23:10
scotGuess that happens when you switch sources for your sourses23:10
mccartneyi dont now23:10
mccartneyim23:11
scotmccartney, who are you talking to ? :)23:11
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mccartneyi dont now23:12
mccartneyim not speak english jaja23:12
scotOk thanks guys got USB working with the version from the oracle repo23:13
scotpeace23:13
mccartneyscot are you looser??23:13
Q_Continuum10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?23:13
fuentesjranyone know how to find all files of type jpg or gif in all the subdirectories?23:14
fuentesjri was thinking something like: find . -name "*.(jpg|gif)"23:14
Raptors Hey guys23:15
mccartneyim think the english is very hard23:15
RaptorsDoes anyone know a good SSH tunnel application for linux?23:15
mccartneyand you???23:15
rmz_Hm, my left mouse button just stopped working when clicking on menu items in apps :-(23:15
mccartneyloooooooser23:15
kerebrusAnyone know of a good on the desktop net monitor?23:15
mccartney¡¡¡23:15
wolfricraptors:openssh?23:16
rmz_hm, left button click only (and always) moves windows23:16
rmz_weird23:16
Jettsangssh tunnel ? u mns ssh -d xxx ?23:16
mccartneyssh tunel ??23:16
rmz_weird and annoying ;(23:16
Jettsangjust use ssh and tunnel23:16
mccartneyis there ??23:16
edbiankerebrus, conky would work but is probably overkill.  There are panel applets that do that and the screenlets package has widgets.23:16
kerebrusedbian conky is a huge pain for me23:17
edbiankerebrus, It can be that way :)23:17
mccartneydebian is pain for you?23:17
edbiankerebrus, Try the panel applets or the screenlets.23:17
edbianmccartney, Debian is a joy for me :)23:17
mccartneydebian is for loosers23:17
kerebrusedbian are they light?23:17
edbiankerebrus, The applets are lighter than the widgets. The widgets are not heavy.23:18
mccartneyhow are you to make a sample test on ....23:18
mccartneyon..23:18
mccartneyhow speak  there23:19
edbiankerebrus, Of course that's opinion...23:19
mccartneyof curse is veri nice to use linux23:19
=== PsyTrance_ is now known as PsyTrance
mccartneyaqui no español23:20
edbianmccartney, I realize you don't speak english well.  Do you have a support question??23:20
kostkon!es | mccartney23:21
ubottumccartney: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:21
miqueiascordeiroola23:21
kerebrusedbian is there a apt package for applets?23:21
=== thyri0n is now known as zz_thyri0n
mccartneyaqui fuchi español23:21
edbiankerebrus, screenlets23:21
edbiankerebrus, and gdesklets  but screenlets are much prettier23:22
mccartneyi tried to speak23:22
mccartneysorry23:22
kerebrusedbian more concerned with functionality then prettyness23:22
mccartneybecause you to goo ??23:23
mccartneydont goo23:23
mccartneyplease please23:23
edbiankerebrus, Try them both.  screenlets is usually preferred.23:23
rmz_hm, the value of "ctrl" seems to be inverted. When it is pressed it is assumed not to be pressed, otherwise it assumed to be pressed. Weird.23:23
kerebrusedbian ok thanks23:23
mccartneyis funny the  english if im not know23:24
talntidAnyone know if there is a way, to automatically delete the oldest files in a directory, if the filesystem begins to fill up?23:24
edbiantalntid, Short of writing your own program no.23:25
edbiantalntid, that is "NO" I don't know of any way.23:25
mccartneyyo to understanding to me please23:25
talntidedein, right :) I understood23:25
edbianmccartney, Please stop talking if you don't have a support question.23:25
mccartneybecause23:25
mccartneyplease23:26
mccartneyyou are my friend23:26
mccartneyok??23:26
mccartneythe americans are the most friends23:26
edbianWhat should I do?  I don't want to "<bang>ops"23:26
mccartneythe english is veri hard to tried to speak in the start23:27
edbianmccartney, Go to the channel you do speak.23:28
edbian!es23:28
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:28
mccartneybut you edbian are my friend american23:28
sparkyany one know how to save an internet axis code one ubuntu 10.4 64bit23:29
edbiansparky, What is an internet axis code?23:29
mccartneyubuntu is hard to use23:29
mccartneybut you use windows???23:29
sparkylike off a router for wirless internet23:29
mccartneyits better23:29
edbiansparky, OOoo, wireless access code23:29
edbiansparky, Doesn't the applet save it for you?23:30
sparkyedbian: no i have had to put it in every time i connect to it23:30
edbiansparky, Look at the keyring manager.23:30
quaquaquaquaI set a keyboard shortcut to the command 'nautilus /home/joe/Dropbox/', and it doesn't seem to be working23:30
mccartneyare you use the wifislax or wifiway???23:31
mccartneyis funny23:31
edbian!ops mccartney23:31
sparkyedbian; under passwords and encription keys?23:31
edbiansparky, Ummm, yes?  I'm not on an ubuntu machine right now :/23:32
mccartneyim crac the wep of the next23:32
mccartneyja23:32
sparkyebdian; ok now what do i do23:32
mccartneyyou dont to use there23:32
mccartney?23:33
LjLmccartney: stop being random please23:33
mccartneyin linux with the suite aircrack23:33
LjLmccartney: no cracking talk here23:33
mccartneyno???23:33
mccartneyis mad??23:33
wolfriccould anyone give me a hand using festival (pretty simple and hardly program specific issue). I'm trying to go $festival (SayText "message") however it's saying syntax error. However if you run festival and type that in it works23:33
mccartneybecause23:33
LjLno. this channel is about legal Ubuntu support.23:33
edbiansparky, I have no idea.  I just saw this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53595123:34
mccartneyno is mad if you to use with care23:34
mccartneyif you dont have of money23:34
edbianmccartney, If you don't have a question then stop talking.23:34
sparkyedbian; ok thanks ill take a look at it23:34
=== zz_thyri0n is now known as thyri0n
mccartneyim  question for you23:35
LjLyour english isn't very understandable. have you tried #ubuntu-es?23:35
edbiansparky, Good luck.  It appears to be right under your nose :)23:36
mccartneymy english not is perfect23:36
mccartneyi know23:36
Raptorsis there anything like Bitvise Tunnelier for linux?23:36
edbianLjL, I sent him !es.  He ignores it.23:36
mccartneybut i want to learn23:36
LjLmccartney, this is not the right channel to learn enough - try going to ##english or #ubuntu-offtopic23:37
LjLmccartney: this channel tends to be very busy23:37
mccartneybusy ??? you dont very friend23:37
mccartneybusy only  obama23:38
voidmagehas wine1.3 been packaged anywhere yet?23:38
ShapeShifter499hi23:38
jimbo_Okay, so there's no more xorg.conf -- is there a way I can *get* one for my current configuration?  I need to modify it.23:38
ShapeShifter499how do I sign the Ubuntu code of Conduct?23:39
mccartneyif you use the ubuntu is for a intention???23:39
mccartneywho??23:39
ShapeShifter499I've got the asc file output but I cannot read its contents23:39
mccartneythe crack?23:39
sparkyedbian; i found it where you sugested and it is saved corectly so hopping its just one of those things that you have to do a few times before your computer knows to save it23:39
d9500jimbo_, yes, you can create an xorg.conf. you'll need to drop to a command prompt to do it, though, unless you already know all the settings you want to use23:39
mccartneyis better to work for th money23:39
edbiansparky, You should only have to tell it once. Glad I could help.23:40
jimbo_d9500: I mean, how can I get an xorg.conf that represents my current video settings, as a starting point?  Creating one entirely from scratch is undesirable23:40
mccartneynow im use the xubuntu and is very nice but23:40
daniel_treefor intel core 2 duo process which is the best i586 or i686 ?23:40
mccartneyhard23:40
mccartneyis crazy23:41
mccartneyin moments23:41
d9500jimbo_, ok, write down what i'm about to say,or copy and paste it in your text editor of choice, then print it...b/c when you drop from the point-and-click GUI to a command line environment, you'll lose the IRC window.23:41
edbianjimbo_, use xorg -configure.  Look at the man page.  Does exactly what you're looking for.23:41
mccartneythe kernel the paquets the terminal the ...23:42
guampas/n ratio ++23:42
ibrokegrubCould someone assist me in updating grub (after i broke it) via my live cd?23:42
edbianibrokegrub, Have you booted the live cd already?23:43
mccartneybut the americans are intelligents23:43
d9500edbian, yes, but he has to be outside of X to do that, and I once made the mistake of telling someone how to stop X without wanring him that he would lose the GUI..so I'm trying not to do that here.23:43
=== jmad980 is now known as prunk
JULinuxUser_is the linux-headers-ibm-x.x.x-x kernel for all IBM / Intel processors?23:43
ibrokegrubedbian, yes. i am on it now23:43
JULinuxUser_Intel core 2 duo in particular23:43
edbiand9500, Really?  You can't create an xorg.conf file using that command while running X ??23:43
jimbo_d9500: It's okay, I've been a linux admin for some years.  Just don't mess with X much.23:43
sweetpimccartney: what is your native language?23:43
mccartneycatalan23:44
mccartneyof spain23:44
d9500edbian, if you try while in X, you get a fatal error, server is already active for screen 0" error message23:44
ibrokegrubedbian, silly me i disabled the os_prober in grub, and now of course i only get a grub console for boot :P23:44
edbiand9500, I just saw that.  You learn something new everday!23:44
mccartneybut the english is betterç23:44
jimbo_d9500: edbian: I dont have an `xorg` executable anyway, so what package am I missing?23:44
FiremanEd!ot | mccartney23:44
ubottumccartney: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!23:44
mccartneyof curse23:44
asusanyone could help with bash programming?23:45
mazerHello23:45
guampaasus: what is it?23:45
edbianibrokegrub, I don't know how to edit that in grub 2 anymore! :(23:45
edbianibrokegrub, I don't think I can help.  I was just going to explain how to reinstall grub to your hdd using a live CD.23:45
JULinuxUser_am I invisible or does no one know?23:45
edbianibrokegrub, on the live CD grub-install --root-dir=/path/to/mounted/fs /dev/sdXY23:45
d9500jimbo_, in that case, if you're comofortable outside of the GUI, then just hit ctl+alt+f1 to switch to a virtual terminal, then type sudo service gdm stop (and maybe sudo killall X for good measure) then run the command Xorg -configure. It will create the xorg.conf file in /root, so you will need to copy it over to /etc/X1123:45
ibrokegrubedbian, i know how to edit it, but i am not sure how to update-grub. reinstalling grub kept my botched config23:46
jimbo_d9500: oh, capital Xorg.  Gotcha,23:46
mccartneyim so happy when im speak english23:46
sweetpi!ca | mccartney23:46
ubottumccartney: Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca23:46
mccartneyis better that the other23:46
sweetpilol23:46
ibrokegrubedbian, ive already fixed the error i made in /etc/default/grub23:46
jimbo_d9500: but gnome (or whoever) sets up my displays for me.  If I stop gdm, Xorg -configure doesn't seem likely to give me what I want.23:46
mccartneycatalan is differnt of the canadian23:47
headkase314I'm in Canada, am I in the wrong channel!?  Silly me! ;)23:47
edbianibrokegrub, then you just have to run the command I showed you.23:47
mdxbloghi23:47
edbianibrokegrub, Mount the root partition somewhere in your filesystem. Do you know how to do that??23:47
mccartneyis very different23:47
sweetpi!andorra | mccartney23:47
mccartneyandorra ???23:47
sweetpimccartney: yes i know, i thought it might recognize ca=catalan23:47
ibrokegrubedbian, mount /dev/devxY  /temp/23:47
mccartneyhow this??23:47
mdxblogi need video converter for ubuntu23:47
magicianlordvlc23:48
d9500jimbo_, today's X and desktop environments tend to auto-configure..there still exists the option to use the settings in xorg.conf, though. If you create the file, and the syntax is correct, then I would think X should read the settings from it.23:48
edbianibrokegrub, That'll do. You have it mounted?23:48
asusanybody could help in bash scripting?23:48
mccartneyhow ubuntu use sweetpi ??23:48
mccartneyxubuntu kubuntu ??23:48
d9500jimbo_, for example, I always had to manually make an xorg.conf when i used the nvidia binary driver downloaded from nvidia's website.23:48
edbianibrokegrub, What is your hdd?  /dev/sda  ?23:49
claytonwalkerSince I've always felt that Nvidia drivers for older graphics cards break some functionality in Ubuntu, I have decided to try to force screen resolutions. How would I go about doing this? (Xorg Cfg has changed, from what I can tell.23:49
ibrokegrubedbian,  i had tried that (grub-install --root-dir=/path/to/mounted/fs /dev/sdXY)  but it seemed to have kept the grub config23:49
jimbo_d9500: back shortly, let's see what I get.23:49
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d9500jimbo_, ok.23:49
guampamdxblog: i've installed arista, haven't used it though23:49
edbianibrokegrub, (not sure if you need sudo) grub-install --root-directory=/temp /dev/sda23:49
guampa@asus: what is it?23:50
edbianibrokegrub, it's --root-directory not --root-dir, /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 or something.23:50
edbianibrokegrub, and you might need root.23:50
=== brebrebrebre is now known as |_ocke
edbianibrokegrub, It take the configure file found in /boot under the root-directory.23:50
mccartneyhow much to years  to take to learn this language23:50
mccartney???23:50
mccartneyis hard23:50
edbianibrokegrub, This command installs grub to the hdd based on the stuff it finds in the root-directory23:50
edbian!ops | mccartney23:51
ubottumccartney: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler!23:51
edbianmccartney, Sorry mccartney, you've been offtopic for a long time.23:51
mccartneyim make to crime ??23:51
magicianlorddoes anyone know how to decipher the UUID?23:51
mccartneynot23:52
jpdsmccartney: Para si us plau, el canal castela es #ubuntu-es, i el catala es #ubuntu-cat.23:52
sweetpiaha cat not ca23:52
mccartneyis boring this channel23:52
jpdsmccartney: It's not suppose to be fun.23:52
jpdsmccartney: We're here to support people.23:52
kyubutsustop feeding the troll23:52
jpdssweetpi: Nothing to do with cats though.23:53
ibrokegrubedbian, from liveCD/root or from mounted-install/root23:53
mccartneyare you profesional jpds??23:53
mccartneywowww¿¿¿23:53
edbianibrokegrub, From the --root-directory=/some/path23:53
icerootmccartney: stop it please23:53
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sweetpijpds: yes i know hehe, just thought ca was the language code for catalan23:53
edbianibrokegrub, It would do the liveCD's root but you gave it that option so it choosed the root of the mounted fs.23:54
ConfuciusHey, guys. How do I change the default trash limit?23:54
ConfuciusCause it's like 10mb right now, it's ridic23:55
ConfuciusLess than 10mb... I don't even know23:55
eyoung101can i install ubuntu without a bootloader?23:55
ibrokegrubedbian,  hmm, ok tell me if this is nuts.  if i copy the 10_blah files and the grub file to the live cd's virtual file system, and run update-grub on it, will that them put the proper grub back on sda1 ?23:55
Jason1does anyone know where I can get the default /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?23:55
prunkgoogle!23:55
prunk:)23:55
edbianibrokegrub, In theory.23:55
jimbo_whoever I was just talking to, `Xorg -configure` segfaults.  Meh.23:56
edbianibrokegrub, But that's the whole point of using --root-directory.  Why don't you do it that way?23:56
d9500jimbo_, can you pastebin the error?23:56
magicianlordwhy is GRUB so difficult to fix? why can't it just be, you boot up with a CD and say, reinstall GRUB in /dev/sda23:56
edbianibrokegrub, Also, you don't install grub to /dev/sda1  you install it to /dev/sda  the entire hdd not just 1 partition.23:56
ibrokegrubedbian,  because doing that seems to grab the grub.cfg that is on it now, and i need to do an update-grub on it to fix it 1st23:56
edbianibrokegrub, ahhh, try that then.  I think you can update-grub --some-dir or something too.23:57
bulgaristanhola23:57
edbianibrokegrub, Looking at the man-page there doesn't appear to be an option like that.  Yeah, do update grub and then copy the files.  Good luck with that! :)23:58
bulgaristanhay jente de spain23:58
jimbo_d9500: no error, just a backtrace.  Right after loading fbdev successfully, I think fglrx driver's next and that's where it faults.23:58
MaRk-I!es | bulgaristan23:58
ubottubulgaristan: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:58
edbianmagicianlord, I don't know.  It is rather awkward though.23:58
claytonwalkerNevermind, I just found the perfect forum thread online. Didn't exsist too long ago, apparently. Link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143798023:59
bulgaristanjoin ubuntu es23:59
magicianlordit is awkward23:59
jimbo_d9500: segfaults at 0x00000000 even which I don't believe I've seen heh23:59

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