[00:00] <Hackana> Thank ye
[00:00] <tripelb> coz_ Apologies for the link. It was for my friends on a quite different channel
[00:00] <hiexpo> Hackana,  - http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[00:00] <yotta911> good night.
[00:00] <coz_> tripelb,  no problem   it happens to all of us :)
[00:00] <Hackana> And how can I delete the netbook remix desktop?
[00:00] <antibody> hello ladies and gents
[00:00] <tripelb> I want a live-CD that includes the "nonfree" (flash, mp3, dvd's) and xchat.
[00:01] <SoldOut> antibody: hi
[00:01] <yotta911> it's possible convert a ODS spreadsheet to a sqlite database?
[00:01] <tripelb> dream on they say...
[00:01] <antibody> quick question: Why do I have an app called "apt-check" running on background eating 99% of my cpu for a loooooooong 760:30.99 of time
[00:01] <antibody> 10.04
[00:01] <hiexpo> tripelb,  what you want to install nonfree stuff?
[00:01] <synnine> @wolf I dont exactly understand what you want.  Access without using a password?
[00:01] <yotta911> tripelb: you can make yourself
[00:02] <tripelb> I dont know how to. Is it easy?
[00:02] <wolfric> synnie: no just the reason why the correct username and password is being denied on ubuntu and not on other win boxes
[00:02] <dludldin> my internet provider announce a download speed of 6mbps but im not sure about that as this is a 3g connection. is there a way to test my internet connection speed?
[00:02] <tripelb> I have a friend who is running off a liev cd (skip story) and would like those things.
[00:02] <tripelb> yotta911, ^^^^ 2 comments
[00:02] <hiexpo> tripelb,  have to install them
[00:03] <headkase314> synnie: Is it Windows 7 for the win boxes? I recall there is a setting that must be done to them related to encryption to get them to work with the current samba.
[00:03] <tripelb> I have them installed hiexpo but I wanted it all on a liveCD
[00:03] <yotta911> tripelb: wait a moment
[00:03] <hiexpo> tripelb,  not gonna happen
[00:03] <synnine> strange.  like i said i setup my samba using samba server and share my ubuntu box with other machines, and also access windows shares on
[00:03] <hiexpo> build your own live cd then
[00:03] <SubCool> ennui, that i dont know. when i use to mangle my Virtual Box images, it wouldnt hurt my host box at all. But i dont have MAC
[00:04] <tripelb> I dont know how to. Is it easy? hiexpo
[00:04] <Four2zero||MW2> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[00:04] <Four2zero||MW2> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.22-2-686; make sure that the version is being
[00:04] <Four2zero||MW2> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[00:04] <dementor> :))) finelyy my bluutooth is working likea headsett niceeeeeeeeee
[00:04] <dabowles> Hello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7. Installer sees drive(s) but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?
[00:04] <coz_> tripelb,  you would most likely have to "re-create"  alive cd with the things you want on it
[00:04] <ennui> SubCool: Thanks for your help :)
[00:04] <tripelb> I dont know how to. Is it easy? hiexpo  coz_
[00:04] <wolfric> synnie: anything i can do to diagnos it?
[00:04] <SubCool> ennui, good luck- there are a few sites that make it VERy easy- i just wasnt comfortable with having to create a boot disc and stupid stuff..
[00:04] <synnine> my ubuntu box
[00:04] <yotta911> tripelb: search at google by remastersys
[00:04] <SoldOut> antibody: apt-check?
[00:04] <SubCool> ennui, np-
[00:04] <hiexpo> learn linus and google is your friend also
[00:04] <wolfric> diagnose*
[00:04] <coz_> tripelb,  to be honest I have not done it  however it is possible
[00:04] <dludldin> how much kbs 6mbps are?
[00:04] <synnine> what did you use to setup samba?
[00:04] <hiexpo> ^linux
[00:04] <iceroot> dludldin: 6000
[00:05] <tripelb> ok I'll check yotta911 coz_
[00:05] <wolfric> synnie: nothing i don't need a samba server
[00:05] <coz_> dludldin,  1 meg = 1000 kbytes
[00:05] <dludldin> iceroot : thanks
[00:05] <rww> dludldin: 6144
[00:05] <hiexpo> coz_,  not exactly
[00:06] <coz_> hiexpo,  no not exactly :)
[00:06] <SoldOut> coz_: 1024 me tihnks
[00:06] <antibody> SoldOut, no idea
[00:06] <wolfric> synnie: i just went to network and double clicked the computer i wanted to access.. i can get onto one machine just fine but the other pops up asking for a user+pass (the one i'm currently on now which i most definitely know the password). I enter it correctly and it reasks
[00:06] <SoldOut> antibody: just kill it
[00:06] <antibody> I do a " top" and I have this  2199 antibody  39  19 36676  21m 3080 R   94  0.7 765:44.99 apt-check
[00:06] <dludldin> 3g connections aren t so accurate are they?
[00:06] <coz_> dludldin,    http://www.smartftp.com/support/kb/bits-bytes-mega-giga-tera-f53.html
[00:06] <iceroot> hiexpo: SoldOut speed is giving in 10^2 not 2^10
[00:07] <antibody> a new one was created soldout
[00:07] <dludldin> coz_ the problem is that im using a 3g connection and i don t trust it very much
[00:07] <SoldOut> antibody: how did you kill it?
[00:07] <antibody> kill PID
[00:07] <coz_> dludldin,   not sure what you mean
[00:08] <dludldin> is there a way to test this crap?
[00:08] <antibody> it is reallly weird
[00:08] <coz_> dludldin,  test your connection you mean?
[00:08] <dludldin> coz_ : yes
[00:08] <coz_> dludldin,    go here    http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[00:08] <iceroot> dludldin: use a speedtester (google)
[00:08] <antibody> /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
[00:08] <antibody> ok that's the app
[00:08] <SoldOut> antibody: I dont think apt-check is part of APT
[00:08] <pie> * NOTE! You are using trial version of Open Sound System   * <--isntit open source? so what the hell?
[00:09] <Daekdroom> pie, in a few versions, it was closed source
[00:10] <Daekdroom> pie, but not anymore
[00:10] <pie> :/
[00:10] <coz_> pie,  http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html
[00:10] <SoldOut> antibody: what user is it running under?
[00:10] <pie> im pretty sure i have the latest version...
[00:10] <coz_> pie,   it is or should be open source
[00:10] <Hackana> Sorry for so many newb questions but....now that Xubuntu is installed, and I know how to get to the session from log-in screen, how do I delete the gnome based desktops that the remix came with? I've found pages that explain how to add desktops, but none on how to remove lol
[00:11] <coz_> pie,   you could go to #oss  channel
[00:11] <antibody> my user soldout, not root
[00:11] <pie> coz_: well anyway ill take a look at that site again, thanks Daekdroom and coz_
[00:11] <antibody> I can't do dist-upgrade , somehow it calculates de upgrade forever
[00:11] <antibody> normal upgrade works
[00:11] <coz_> pie,   also go to #oss  just type   /join #oss  where you type here
[00:11] <coz_> pie,   thats just incase you ddnt know that :)
[00:12] <ennui> running linux on a mac: bad for the CPU? or an old wives' tale?
[00:12] <dabowles> Hello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7 already installed. Ubuntu installer sees drive but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?
[00:12] <MagicJ> I have a phone that has a USB data connection.  When I plug it into the computer sure enough it sees that it is connected to something and it also chaeges, yet ubuntu does not tell me that it see the phone.  What do I need to do to make this mound
[00:12] <coz_> ennui,   strange old wives tale
[00:12] <antibody> it seems linked to the update-manager
[00:12] <hiexpo> wise tale
[00:12] <antibody> there we go I killed both and their dead
[00:13] <Hackana> Maybe it was from a time when apple had unique CPUs with their own machine language, but now they just use intel
[00:13] <dludldin> coz_ thanks
[00:13] <Hackana> Really now apple is just a PC with a apple stamp
[00:13] <coz_> dludldin,  no problem
[00:13] <dludldin> iceroot thanks
[00:13] <LearningToPie> Hi folks
[00:14] <coz_> LearningToPie,   hey guy
[00:15] <nailora1> can you suggest some calendar software if i do not feel comfortable with evolution?
[00:15] <SoldOut> antibody: have you got the package-manager open?
[00:15] <sometux> nailora1, google!
[00:15] <SoldOut> antibody: if so close it and try this     sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[00:16] <dludldin> the "real" internet speed is about  1/10 isn't it ?
[00:16] <antibody> kt tnx
[00:16] <hiexpo> Hackana,  you sure do ask a lot of ? > starting to look suspicious
[00:17] <nailora1> sometux: ok, did not think about that. but google calendar might indeed be an option
[00:17] <TheAlchem1st> hey guys, i am trying to start my proftpd server and i get that : Fatal: SystemLog: you are attempting to log to a world writable directory on line 95 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'         (what is wrong?)
[00:17] <SoldOut> dludldin: its only as fast as your slowest link!
[00:18] <nailora1> TheAlchem1st: please show us your config
[00:18] <TheAlchem1st> ok 2 sec
[00:20] <Lizzard88> Q: what is the best Dvd burning software out there?
[00:20] <Lizzard88> for ubuntu?
[00:20] <hiexpo> Hackana,  suspicious  = cop or hacker  here    > cop ok hacker not ok
[00:20] <SoldOut> Lizzard88: gui or cli?
[00:20] <MagicJ> why would a cop ask a lot of questions of that type
[00:20] <nailora1> Lizzard88: depends on what you want to do. i am perfectly fine with brasero
[00:21] <Random832> or a hacker for that matter
[00:21] <cast> whats the current ubuntu kernel?
[00:21] <hiexpo> MagicJ,  you'd be suprised to get people to talk
[00:21] <coz_> Lizzard88,  I prefer gnomebaker  personally
[00:21] <MagicJ> ah - the old get their confidence routine - thanks hiexpo
[00:22] <Random832> hiexpo: to talk aout what?
[00:22] <TheAlchem1st> This is my config http://pastebin.com/jzJtyFYf
[00:22] <c3l> how does ubuntu start X, and what configuration file is loaded at that time?
[00:23] <dabowles> Sorry for being such a newbie snack, but if my question isn't acknowledged after two attempts should I drop it?
[00:23] <LearningToPie> guys, why can't i use the good olde command "/list" to list rooms here? Using Empathy.
[00:23] <SoldOut> c3l: I was going to say Xor.conf
[00:23] <SoldOut> c3l: I was going to say Xorg*.conf
[00:23] <Random832> as opposed to Nand.conf
[00:23] <nailora1> cast: you can run "uname -a" to get your kernel. you can search synaptic for a list of available kernels
[00:23] <MagicJ> ok - when I plug my phone in I get in the dmesg file: lines that I can not seem to paste into here that tell me that the device has been seen is using ohci_hcd and address 3 - et - now how do I see it?
[00:24] <cast> nailora1: right, my kernel, which is different.
[00:24] <Random832> LearningToPie: probably because empathy isn't a real irc client
[00:24] <hiexpo> Random832,  to say something illegal  easy aspect   > easy mark  = easy case
[00:24] <c3l> SoldOut: its no longer in use. I was thinking about xset and similar configs though
[00:24] <Random832> hiexpo: but it's not even related to anything - shouldn't you think _anyone_ in here is a cop?
[00:24] <Random832> and what if a cop needs help with their ubuntu, geez
[00:24] <SoldOut> c3l: yeah   thought that  but wasnt sure
[00:25] <nailora1> TheAlchem1st: please run "ls -laR /var/log/proftpd/"
[00:25] <Random832> this is a support channel - there's nothing suspicious about asking questions
[00:25] <TheAlchem1st> soo, my /var/log/proftpd/proftpd.log is "world writable directory, how can I fix that
[00:25] <TheAlchem1st> ok
[00:25] <hiexpo> Random832,  nevermind
[00:26] <SoldOut> c3l: I think if you create an xorg.conf    it will be used
[00:26] <Lizzard88> When i drag the files into Brasero, the program freezes
[00:27] <juan_> bnhgnhnghjghgj
[00:27] <slidinghorn> Lizzard88, try replicating the issue by opening brasero from a terminal and posting the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:27] <juan_> dgsgdhgfo
[00:28] <juan_> iy9pit9mmmmmtyuhygunfygognilhjlilm,
[00:28] <TheAlchem1st> the output is here http://pastebin.com/iE7UALfP
[00:28] <slidinghorn> juan_, do you have an ubuntu related support question?
[00:28] <rww> juan_: Something we can help you with?
[00:28] <marca311> hello, anyone have experience with ndiswrapper and realtek cards?
[00:28] <dabowles> I need help!
[00:28] <slidinghorn> !anyone | marca311
[00:28] <nailora1> TheAlchem1st: you might want to run "sudo chmod -R o-w /var/log/proftpd/" to remove (at least) write access from that directory and the files within
[00:29] <c3l> SoldOut: true, but the file is on its way to get deprecated iirc, so im looking for the correct file
[00:29] <hiexpo> marca311,  what realtec carm most are supported
[00:29] <TheAlchem1st> okay i ll try that
[00:29] <hiexpo> ^card
[00:29] <nailora1> did you change them in the past? do you use some strange setup (fat filesystem, ...)?
[00:29] <SoldOut> c3l: and you can still start X with a custom xorg file   if thats what you need
[00:29] <marca311> @hiexpo please repeat that
[00:29] <dabowles> Please?
[00:29] <SoldOut> c3l: ah ok
[00:29] <slidinghorn> !ask | dabowles
[00:30] <dabowles> Hello, I'm trying to install 64bit Lucid on 2 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 with 64bit Win7 already installed. Ubuntu installer sees drive but not Win7. Am I out of luck trying to dual boot this?
[00:30] <econdudeawesome> !anyone|dabowles
[00:30] <Lizzard88> slidinghorn: nothing is showing up on the terminal
[00:30] <hiexpo> what realtek card what model and version
[00:30] <marca311> ah
[00:30] <Hackana> Hmmmmmm....I ask alot of questions cause I am new to using Linux :D
[00:30] <Hackana> And I just made a bunch of random letters for a name
[00:30] <MagicJ> ok - so - I am not a cop - how do I get an answer to my question - or where should I ask it
[00:30] <slidinghorn> dabowles, are you sure it's seeing the correct drive?   take a look at /msg ubottu !raid
[00:31] <Vespero> I think I'm experiencing technical difficulties. Could someone please respond to this?
[00:31] <dabowles> Yeah, it's the correct drive...it's the only one
[00:31] <marca311> @hiexpo realtek 8187b
[00:31] <SoldOut> Vespero: more info please
[00:31] <Hackana> I still need to learn how to uninstall a desktop........if its possible...
[00:31] <nailora1> TheAlchem1st: "sudo find / -wholename /proc -prune -or \( -perm -o+w \) -and \( -type f -or -type d \)" generates a list of world-writable files/directories. you might want to have a look at that, too. but it requires some skill to read the output of that command
[00:31] <marca311> @hiexpo driver version: 04/15/2009,5.1160.0415.2009
[00:32] <dustin> hi yall
[00:32] <coz_> Hackana,  which desktop did you want to uninstall?
[00:32] <Hackana> The Netbook Remix
[00:32] <hiexpo> marca311,  ok thats what brand wifi device is it
[00:32] <Hackana> and possible Netbook Remix 2D
[00:32] <marca311> @hiexpo realtek
[00:32] <bazhang> !une > Hackana
[00:32] <hiexpo> marca311,  usb
[00:32] <TheAlchem1st> server work now ty, i ll check that right now
[00:33] <marca311> @hiexpo it's builtin to a system76 starling netbook
[00:33] <marca311> @hiexpo built in
[00:33] <marca311> it shows up as usb though
[00:33] <hiexpo> marca311,  ok let me check
[00:33] <nailora1> TheAlchem1st: good luck, i am off for the night
[00:33] <TheAlchem1st> tyvm!
[00:34] <ilumi> !webcam
[00:34] <Ejdesgaard> hi... i'm in need of some magic to get Europa Universalis 3 Complete to work... i have followed the codeweavers guide http://tinyurl.com/37x2s3v and tried to start eu3 from console witch gives the following output: http://dpaste.org/FNAO/
[00:34] <ping_> Hi there, i'm looking for RAID0 with ubuntu, does somebody have any advice on using LVM or not ?
[00:35] <dustin> what for?
[00:35] <bazhang> Ejdesgaard, for crossover?
[00:35] <Favorit> ping_: if you want software raid LVM is ok.
[00:35] <marca311> @hiexpo the problem itself is that my computer cannot see the card after being in suspend or hibernate
[00:35] <dustin> sever  ordesktop?
[00:35] <marca311> @hiexpo personally i think that the problem is ndiswrapper itself
[00:36] <Ejdesgaard> bazhang, yes, i'm running crossover games 9.1 on ubuntu 10.04 x86_64
[00:36] <hiexpo> marca311,  ndi is bad
[00:36] <ping_> Favorit, LVM won't run on motherboard Intel "fake raid"  ?
[00:36] <Favorit> ping_: those 2 are unrelated
[00:36] <marca311> @hiexpo well, the "linux" drivers provided by the manufacturer don't work
[00:36] <dabowles> slidinghorn, thank you. I'll check it out.
[00:37] <hiexpo> marca311,  what version ubuntu ?
[00:37] <pmjp> hi people
[00:37] <cast> ping_: LVM doesnt care about your fake raid, motherboard, or anything beyond having rw access to a block device
[00:37] <marca311> @hiexpo and the only way i could get it to work in the first place is to use ndiswrapper
[00:37] <SoldOut> pmjp: hi there
[00:37] <marca311> 10.04
[00:37] <TheAlchem1st> When i m connecting to my proftpd server with my "user" account and i arrived in my /home/user but i have no rights and i m stuck there, how can I change my permission for /var/www at least
[00:38] <pmjp> decided to check out the irc channel
[00:38] <hiexpo> pure_hate,  - hey mate    :)
[00:38] <TheAlchem1st> pure_hate from backtrack? =)
[00:38] <ping_> cast, Ok thanks
[00:38] <joe_2010> Hi all,,,  Is/When will BtrFS be supported here on U/X/Kubuntu's distros?
[00:39] <SoldOut> pmjp: I hope it meets your needs!
[00:39] <pmjp> just recently installed Ubuntu Netbook its awesome
[00:39] <bazhang> joe_2010, perhaps next release #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <pmjp> I havent been a linux user in a while
[00:40] <bazhang> !manual | pmjp may want to see this then
[00:40] <hiexpo> TheAlchem1st,  why you ask ?
[00:40] <pure_hate> hola hiexpo
[00:40] <pmjp> thank you
[00:40] <joe_2010> bazhang, Ok...  that release is what, in October?!
[00:41] <pmjp> I been dabbling with linux before Ubuntu came on the scene
[00:41] <bazhang> joe_2010, yes, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[00:41] <TheAlchem1st> Just curious, pure_hate helped me a while ago on bt3
[00:41] <joe_2010> ok, thanks!!
[00:41] <TheAlchem1st> on th board ahah
[00:41] <dustin> whatsthe diffrence
[00:41] <hiexpo> TheAlchem1st,  kool
[00:41] <SoldOut> joe_2010: yeah oct 10th AFAIK
[00:41] <bazhang> !who | dustin
[00:42] <pmjp> hehe
[00:42] <dustin> ubottu can you talk to me , about, an os?
[00:42] <hiexpo> TheAlchem1st,  nice guy
[00:42] <bazhang> dustin, dont play with the bot
[00:42] <SoldOut> pmjp: what kind of linux you used before?
[00:43] <TheAlchem1st> hiexpo, yeah =)
[00:43] <bazhang> pmjp, please keep chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , support here
[00:44] <pmjp> well Debian, Red Hat (before it  was Fedora), Older version of Ubuntu (5 I think), lol Suse before it was open, and tried installing Gentoo but failed lol
[00:44] <dustin> lol ok, just  for you
[00:45] <bazhang> !ot | dustin pmjp
[00:45] <pmjp> sorry
[00:45] <hiexpo> marca311,  go here and read - www.aircrack-ng
[00:46] <SoldOut> pmjp: well rounded selection there :)
[00:46] <pmjp> thanks
[00:46] <pmjp> is there a games channel?
[00:46] <Hackana> Can I use the terminal as a compiler for C? Sorry bout all the questions, I just vaguely remember using it in CIS (Computer Information Science) and we used it either as a compiler or just to run compiled code. Once again sorry for all the questions >.> I'm just trying to understand Linux lol
[00:47] <marca311> url does not exist
[00:47] <bazhang> !compile > Hackana
[00:47] <Favorit> Hackana: you can install gcc and use that as a compiler
[00:47] <SoldOut> pmjp: not really no
[00:47] <bazhang> Hackana, install build-essential
[00:47] <hiexpo> marca311,  go to support section
[00:47] <pmjp> too bad
[00:47] <marca311> @hiexpo ?
[00:48] <hiexpo> marca311,  sure
[00:48] <pmjp> was wondering what would be the best games to get on ubuntu
[00:48] <bazhang> !games > pmjp
[00:48] <marca311> @hiexpo www.aircrack-ng.org (you forgot the .org)
[00:48] <TheAlchem1st> how can I give permission to my user to upload in /var/www by ftp
[00:49] <SoldOut> pmjp: what game?
[00:49] <hiexpo> marca311,  you figured it out
[00:49] <Alan502> Hi, i have my laptop set up to do not ask password when I ssh my desktop. 'ssh mydesktop' works perfectly, but when I try to use ssh with rsync it asks me for my password anyway. What could be happening?
[00:50] <pmjp> thanks for everything
[00:50] <Four2zero||MW2> whats a good utility for reduce bass in ubuntu ?
[00:50] <pmjp> see ya later
[00:50] <Four2zero||MW2> 10.4
[00:51] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: the trick is in the unix permissions system and how you set up your FTP server.  for example, if you have the ftp server set up normally, i believe that if the user is a member of the www-data group and has write priveleges in that group on /var/www then that user can then sign in and upload stuff.  this assumes of course that /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data
[00:51] <marca311> @hiexpo but aircrack-ng is a wireless key cracker
[00:51] <marca311> @hiexpo why have you sent me there?
[00:52] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: then there are other FTP server settings associated with *what* their home directories are per user, etc... etc... to include whether or not they even have upload permission in the first place. for example, you can set a FTP server to never allow upload no matter what, even if the directory has 777 permissions
[00:52] <hiexpo> marca311,  - true but good drivers for wireless cards etc
[00:52] <Four2zero||MW2> Is there a utility for reduce bass in ubuntu 10.l4 ?
[00:52] <marca311> @hiexpo ah
[00:52] <marca311> @hiexpo i will try thenb
[00:52] <marca311> @hiexpo then
[00:52] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: just keep in mind that anything you allow users to do in /var/www will compromise the integrity of /var/www running on the webserver.  usually, the permissions on /var/www are kept strict for a reason.
[00:53] <mint> !best > mint
[00:53] <marca311> @hiexpo i have also aquired the drivers from a location on the system76 site
[00:53] <marca311> @hiexpo i will try those also
[00:53] <Eighteens> hello, i am trying to boot my hp dv6 from a flash drive, this works on all my systems except  this one laptop in particular, the problem is that i get no display, after choosing default from the boot menu, it goes a bit, then i hear sound, but my screen goes blank, what should i do? thanks in advance
[00:54] <TheAlchem1st> randy_, i have proftpd, i can upload in my home but i cannpot lsit the root of everything . Its the default config.
[00:54] <TheAlchem1st> thank you  ill re read you
[00:55] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: its common for FTP servers to jail you in your 'home' directory per server settings.  you usually don't want FTP users to be able to see above their /home/<user>/ but this can be changed of course in the ProFTPd settings
[00:55] <hiexpo> marca311,  get a grip i will not send you to a place that is not useful to you ok
[00:55] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: a quick and dirty fix could be to simply symlink /var/www to /home/<user>/ so they stay in their jail but can browse /var/www (mileage may vary depending on how strict ProFTPd is...)
[00:56] <TheAlchem1st> randy_, thank you, so i must check in the conf?
[00:56] <hiexpo> marca311,  system76 never heard of it
[00:56] <marca311> @hiexpo sorry
[00:56] <TheAlchem1st> i ll try that.
[00:56] <marca311> @hiexpo google it
[00:56] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: yeah, you're gonna have to do some research, proFTPd is powerful (thus, complicated) but it *can* do what you want.  you should read some of the fantastic (and long winded) manuals on ProFTPd
[00:56] <marca311> @hiexpo all their computer come pre-installed with ubuntu
[00:56] <Four2zero||MW2> Is there a utility for reduce bass in ubuntu 10.4 ?
[00:57] <shzlnzl> how do i make my "3 window buttons" on the rights side of the window again?
[00:57] <TheAlchem1st> randy_. thanks i ll read about that. =)
[00:57] <Alan502> Is anybody here good with rsync?
[00:57] <hiexpo> marca311,  softpedia   sourceforge
[00:57] <bazhang> !controls > shzlnzl
[00:58] <unclemike> ? isent there a net install for 10.04
[00:58] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: you should also google on how to set up a domain hosting type server with proFTPd, its common for ISP's to offer domain services with an upload feature.  the upload, of course, ends up in the user's appropriate /var/www directory ...
[00:58] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: all of it is done with FTP, so what you want to do has most definitely been done before, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding some helpful information
[00:59] <randy_> TheAlchem1st: I just hope I managed to push you in the right direction to an answer ;)
[00:59] <pradeep> hello everyone i my screen flickers alot when using my laptop it is becoming a little embarrassing when trying to work anyway i dont know if anyone is experience this issue
[00:59] <pradeep> dell 1440
[01:00] <TheAlchem1st> randy_, are you talking about dyndns and stuff like that? because i m using it for my domain.
[01:01] <TheAlchem1st> and its allright for the moment
[01:01] <hiexpo> marca311,  there is nothing special about buying a computer with ubuntu preinstalled
[01:02] <xhane> Hello, I require some assistance with the new Ubuntu 10.04
[01:03] <xhane> Could someone help me please?
[01:03] <SoldOut> marca311: if your computer comes preinstalled with ubuntu    you should jump with joy
[01:03] <hiexpo> marca311,  i build comp daily and install lots of linux os  on theme
[01:03] <bazhang> xhane, ask a question then
[01:03] <xhane> Thank you.
[01:04] <xhane> I've already tried Googling this before coming here to bother anyone.
[01:04] <xhane> The Networking Manager doesn't seem to work.
[01:04] <Aiya> hello~
[01:04] <SoldOut> xhane: dont be put off by bazhang    hes a bit uptight
[01:04] <glick> is there software for ubuntu for editing hd video?
[01:04] <bazhang> SoldOut, that is not appropriate for here.
[01:05] <hiexpo> !networking > xhane
[01:05] <Hackana> Okay, last question, I promise. Is there any down side to having multiple desktop environments on one machine? Will they possible conflict, or due to the whole Ubuntu sleeps processes its not using, will it be okay? Also am I right in assuming Ubuntu is sorta the equivalent of DOS, and the desktop environment is sorta just a way to graphically represent it? Or something like that.....of...
[01:05] <Hackana> ...course its more complicated than DOS, but the desktop is just a GUI?
[01:05] <SoldOut> bad day at the office
[01:05] <bazhang> Hackana, nope, install kubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop and whatever you wish
[01:06] <Aiya> I have install ubuntu network.Now I want to ask how do I make two worksheet like ubuntu desktop
[01:06] <bazhang> Hackana, just choose which one at the login window
[01:06] <xhane> I would install Wicd to fix this problem, but I have no access to the internet, so I can't download Wicd as well.
[01:06] <xhane> This is frustrating :(
[01:06] <Hackana> Okay, cool, was worried they might conflict, but okay :D Thanks for all your help! Have a good day and all that stuff ^.^
[01:07] <hiexpo> bazhang,  >yup supper  simp
[01:07] <Mr_Sonoma> Four2zero||MW2, what about alsa mixer? don't have it installed on my system but looks like it might do the trick for you
[01:07] <bazhang> Hackana, the menu might get a bit crowded for apps is all, but you can edit that
[01:07] <bazhang> hiexpo, excuse me?
[01:08] <Eighteens> hello, i am trying to boot my hp dv6 from a flash drive to ubuntu 9.10, this works on all my systems except  this one laptop in particular, the problem is that i get no display, after choosing default from the boot menu, it goes a bit, then i hear sound, but my screen goes blank, what should i do? thanks in advance
[01:08] <wisemansword> my console font setting (in /etc/default/console-setup) isnt working when i install nvidia dirver and my screen card nvidia geforce7100 what can i do?
[01:08] <shurathing> Hey guys... I got my netbook at Starbucks trying to access the ssh server (mac). But Putty keeps timing out.
[01:08] <hiexpo> bazhang,  was saying so easy to choose desktop enviroment at log in
[01:08] <bazhang> Eighteens, tried booting in recovery mode?
[01:08] <SoldOut> xhane: whats not working?
[01:08] <xhane> SoldOut, the networking
[01:09] <xhane> I can't detect any networks at all
[01:09] <jasonwryan> Eighteens: nomodeset?
[01:09] <SoldOut> xhane: wifi?
[01:09] <xhane> Yeah
[01:09] <Phluffy> hello
[01:10] <shurathing> xhane: xhane.... reply with the name of who you're talking to ... it's easier for them to keep track of the chat
[01:10] <xhane> Alright
[01:10] <xhane> SoldOut: Yeah, Wifi
[01:10] <shurathing> xhane: what version of ubuntu?
[01:10] <xhane> 10.04
[01:10] <picard1421> can i have some help?
[01:10] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/c5Va7nSY
[01:10] <shurathing> xhane: what are you running it on?
[01:10] <picard1421> im not sure why im getting those compile errors
[01:10] <SoldOut> he did use my name
[01:11] <xhane> shurathing: What do you mean?
[01:11] <Alan502> Is anybody here good with rsync?
[01:11] <SoldOut> xhane: is the card up?
[01:11] <MaRk-I> Eighteens: http://maketecheasier.com/solving-ubuntu-karmic-black-screen-issue/2009/12/29
[01:11] <koshari> Alan502 iam ok
[01:11] <xhane> SoldOut: I'm using the inbuilt WiFi hardware
[01:11] <shurathing> xhane: what computer do you have. I had a wireless problem on the netbook, but a simple backport fixed it.
[01:12] <xhane> SoldOut: And I just upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 yesterday.
[01:12] <SoldOut> xhane: sure but is the card up?
[01:12] <th0r> Alan502: if you don't need the command line, try grsync, it is just a gui frontend for rsync
[01:12] <xhane> shurathing: I'm using an Optima computer
[01:12] <hiexpo> we forget how to make wifi work   > someday get smarter
[01:13] <Dextralus> Oh yes, wireless - seemingly the bane of all ubuntu netbooks :P
[01:13] <hiexpo> :)
[01:13] <kohlers> i am failing to get jack to run. Followed the instructions, am to change usermod <- end of process
[01:13] <Phluffy> Shurathing, i am having a similar issue with wireless, where it connects, than disconnects
[01:13] <Dextralus> Thankfully the fix on my samsung n220 is straightforward; though, I haven't done it yet...
[01:14] <xhane> shurathing: It's quite old, but I'm sure it works fine, because when I had Ubuntu Jaunty yesterday, WiFi was working, but I received my Ubuntu 10.04 CD and I installed it, and now the networking is not functioning at all.
[01:14] <picard1421> anyone help me ? with the prolem? compile error?
[01:14] <shurathing> xhane: did you try to install the backport module? for Lucid?
[01:14] <dustin> any one here know how to compile/command? and good at it
[01:14] <hiexpo> !compile > picard1421
[01:15] <xhane> shurathing: I don't know the backport module
[01:15] <picard1421> LOL
[01:15] <shurathing> xhane: one sec... let me look for it
[01:15] <picard1421> ok .. i have read that..
[01:15] <c3l> dustin: what are you looking for?
[01:15] <hiexpo> ok
[01:15] <picard1421> but im getting an error that i cant figure out..
[01:15] <xhane> I'll just clarify something, so I might regret saying this, I'm just 14, and I'm pretty sure some of the members here are around that age as well
[01:15] <picard1421> i compiled openCV-2.0.0 on my other machine with exact same setup im compiling openCV-1.0.0 on this one.. idk why its not working??
[01:16] <hotfloppy> hello guys.. is it possible to show *** character when sudo'ing on terminal ?
[01:16] <c3l> how does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is run?
[01:16] <shurathing> xhane: go to Synaptic Package Manager and search for Backported drivers for alsa-driver
[01:16] <Phluffy> eh Xhane, i first used it a few years ago when I was 14 :p
[01:16] <eliezer> how can i remove evolution with out having system troubles
[01:17] <eliezer> i have make a mistake
[01:17] <xhane> Phluffy: Highfive? :)
[01:17] <SoldOut> xhane: you dont need to justify youself to anyone
[01:17] <dustin> i was told to do so , the wine channal, for i can tether with my blackberry, having a hard time
[01:17] <shurathing> xhane: WAIT
[01:17] <eliezer> and have to reinstall  ubuntu again
[01:17] <Phluffy> xhane ^5 :D
[01:17] <headkase314> xhane: Did you go to System > Administration > Hardware drivers - to see if your hardware has a proprietary driver there?  Need to have Internet to do so, plug in a wire for that and run Update Manager at least once and check for updates before running Hardware Drivers.
[01:17] <dustin> c3l,
[01:17] <shurathing> xhane: wrong one... Backported wireless drivers for generic..... make sure its the wireless
[01:18] <xhane> What do you mean shurathing?
[01:18] <dustin> c3l,i was told to do so , the wine channal, for i can tether with my blackberry, having a hard time
[01:18] <eliezer> how to unistall evolution ??
[01:18] <xhane> headkase314, I don't have a Wired Connection
[01:18] <xhane> =\
[01:18] <th0r> eliezer: just mark it for removal in synaptic
[01:18] <headkase314> xhane: the laptop has no ethernet plug at all??
[01:18] <shurathing> xhane: Synaptic Package Manager... under System
[01:19] <eliezer> i did before
[01:19] <xhane> headkase314, it does, it's just that I don't have a wired connection
[01:19] <eliezer> and have completeley destroy my system
[01:19] <c3l> dustin: told to do waht? im sorry if I missed what you said, this channel can be cluttered
[01:19] <eliezer> apps where unistall
[01:19] <xhane> shurathing, I know that, but what did you mean by Wireless?
[01:19] <eliezer> menu as crazy,,a bunch of stuff missing
[01:19] <c3l> how does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is runned?
[01:19] <shurathing> xhane: Backported wireless drivers for lucid
[01:19] <headkase314> xhane: that may complicate getting required software, I'll let you get back to shurathing now.
[01:19] <eliezer> including update manager and software apps to install apps
[01:20] <eliezer> everything was gone
[01:20] <yur4> sudo apt-get install
[01:20] <eliezer> have to install ubuntu again
[01:20] <yur4> good
[01:20] <xhane> shurathing: I'm at Sypnatic Package Manager, what's the next step?
[01:20] <xhane> I apologise for being such a pain :(
[01:21] <shurathing> xhane: are you connect to the net some way?
[01:21] <xhane> No
[01:21] <yur4> lol
[01:21] <xhane> I have no connection what so ever
[01:21] <yur4> =))
[01:21] <shurathing> xhane: dude... how are you chatting?
[01:21] <Phluffy> er... xhane... than how are you here?
[01:21] <iBallbag> hi all, can someone teach me how to supress the authentication popup in ubuntu 10.04 32bit?
[01:21] <xhane> shurathing: I'm using my family computer to do so
[01:21] <shurathing> iBallbag: authentication popup?
[01:21] <yur4> edit preference
[01:22] <shurathing> xhane: and you have no ethernet port on the ubuntu machine?
[01:22] <hotfloppy> sory for repeating.. but just need a 'yes' or 'no' answer.. -> hello guys.. is it possible to show *** character when sudo'ing on terminal ?
[01:22] <yur4> rep02.,.:D
[01:22] <xhane> shurathing: I do, but I don't have a Wired connection
[01:22] <iBallbag> yes. every time i do anything i have to enter my pass in an auth popup
[01:22] <yur4> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:22] <yur4> sudo su /sudo -i
[01:22] <shurathing> xhane: so you CAN connect to the net from the ubuntu comp?
[01:23] <shurathing> xhane: just not wireless?
[01:23] <xhane> shurathing: I only have a Mobile Broadband and to use wireless, I set up an AdHoc network
[01:23] <digitalfiz> anybody here know much about the ubuntu license? like can you sell an "appliance" with ubuntu on it?
[01:23] <dustin> can i get help tethering my blackberry 8130?
[01:23] <irssi2> you might be able to use wireless
[01:23] <yur4> sett synaotic to local repo
[01:23] <xhane> shurathing: I only have a Mobile Broadband and to use wireless, I set up an AdHoc network
[01:23] <yur4> no problem
[01:23] <yur4> :)
[01:23] <shurathing> xhane: no ethernet port on the comp?
[01:23] <yur4> sudo apt-get
[01:24] <xhane> shurathing: I do
[01:24] <picard1421> anyone know how to install opencv on ubuntu
[01:24] <picard1421> i need version 1.0.0 not 2.0.0 i can install 2 but not 1.. need a guide or some help with 1.0.0
[01:24] <shurathing> xhane: can you take an ethernet cable and connect it to the router and get a connection?
[01:24] <hotfloppy> xhane: then, plug in the ethernet cable and dial to your ISP..
[01:24] <picard1421> here is my error i get when trying to compile 1
[01:24] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/c5Va7nSY
[01:24] <headkase314> xhane: you need a ethernet cable to go from your Internet source to the ethernet plug on your Ubuntu laptop.  To get the software from the internet to get the wireless working.  Then you don't need the wire anymore.
[01:25] <xhane> hotfloppy: Like I told shurathing before, I don't have a wired connection, meaning, I don't have Broadband
[01:25] <MaRk-I> xhane: setup this computer you're using to "share internet" connect your ubuntu one to it and make updates and see if you can fix your wireless then you can undo the share connection
[01:25] <shurathing> anyone know why I can't connect via Putty to my ssh Mac at home? I'm at Starbucks trying it out for the first time.
[01:25] <xhane> shurathing: I'll try that.
[01:25] <xhane> shurathing: Using Putty?
[01:25] <marca311> @hiexpo sorry about the delay, i had to go pack
[01:25] <[thor]> is there a means to set processor affinity for specific applications? running 10.04 on a i7
[01:26] <shurathing> xhane: that was my question... putty wasn't for you
[01:26] <marca311> @hiexpo the computer is very good quality too
[01:26] <shurathing> xhane: i've issues too :)
[01:26] <marca311> @hiexpo it should last a long time
[01:27] <headkase314> surathing: Think the Starbuck's Access Point is blocking the ports?
[01:27] <shurathing> xhane: if your computer has ethernet, you should be able to connect it to the router and in the wired prefs enter the account info to access the net.
[01:27] <xhane> shurathing: I
[01:27] <Ritz> im trying to do a shell   IF then    IF $varaible Contains Text 10 Then
[01:27] <shurathing> headkase314: didn't think of that. So I'd have to set putty to use some other port other than 22?
[01:27] <Ritz> its actaully an IP address
[01:27] <Ritz> that starts with 10.
[01:28] <xhane> shurathing: I'm connected to a Mobile Broadband, I don't have a Broadband using a wired modem
[01:28] <headkase314> shurathing: I don't know what to do, maybe *if* that is the issue someone can help you route around it?
[01:28] <shurathing> headkase314: kk... I'll keep that in mind when looking for answers.. Thanks
[01:29] <headkase314> shurathing: You're welcome ;)
[01:29] <yakub> i just installed 32 bit lucid lynx on an Asus UL80J . it has 4 gigs of memory , windows sees 4 gigs .  ubuntu only sees 2.7 gigs.  what am i doing wrong ?
[01:29] <shurathing> xhane: mobile broadband... you mean wireless as in cell phone?
[01:30] <xhane> shurathing: You know those new USB Mobile Broadband?
[01:30] <shurathing> xhane: no
[01:30] <xhane> Where it uses a modem in the form of a USB
[01:30] <xhane> Hmm
[01:30] <xhane> Wait
[01:30] <headkase314> xhane: You need Internet access somehow on the Ubuntu machine.  Do you have a home router you can plug a cable into?  When you say "mobile broadband" what kind of connection is that?  For the family computer you're using right now, is it connected with an ethernet cord?  One you could unplug from it and plug into your laptop for the temporary step to get your wireless drivers?
[01:31] <headkase314> xhane: Ok, I see USB.  I don't know how to approach that, sorry.
[01:31] <xhane> headkase314 and shurathing: http://www.google.com.au/images?rlz=1C1_____enAU336AU336&q=USB%20Mobile%20Broadband&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=707
[01:31] <iBallbag> has anyone got a clue how to supress the auth popup in ubuntu 10.04?
[01:32] <xhane> headkase314: I have a modem router, could I set up a connection on this computer that can utilise my Mobile Broadband connection to use on the Ubuntu to get the required files?
[01:32] <shurathing> xhane: that uses cell towers?
[01:32] <xhane> shurathing: Yes it does
[01:32] <xhane> I works like a Mobile Phone
[01:32] <shurathing> iBallbag: you mean the log in screen?
[01:32] <xhane> It works like a Mobile Phone*
[01:32] <headkase314> xhane: If the modem router has ethernet ports on the back of it then you just need an ethernet cable.  Keep fingers-crossed while you check.
[01:32] <shurathing> xhane: dude... sorry. I really didn't know that and I know nothing of that hardware
[01:33] <shurathing> headkase314: no... he connects to the cell towers with a dongle usb thing.
[01:33] <iBallbag> no shurathing, the auth popup like when you install an app in synaptic
[01:33] <shurathing> iBallbag: you mean you don't want confermation screens when installing?
[01:34] <iBallbag> correct
[01:34] <iBallbag> non whatsoever
[01:34] <headkase314> xhane: Looks like you need to take the laptop somewhere where you can get an ethernet cable.  A local library or school may cooperate.  Once you do that, hit update manager and check for updates at least once then run Hardware Drivers and hopefully your wireless drivers will be there and you just need to click activate.  Then you don't need any more cables, you're wireless from there.
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> yakub, research PAE kernel (32bit with extended memory support)
[01:35] <xhane> headkase314: Couldn't I just set up a This Laptop -> Router -> My Laptop kind of connection?
[01:36] <headkase314> xhane: If the router only offers a USB connection or wireless then neither is really suitable.  You need drivers for both, it is a chicken-and-egg problem: you need Interet to get the drivers for wireless internet.
[01:36] <shurathing> iBallbag: sorry... I don't know a way around that
[01:37] <shurathing> xhane: dude.. good luck in getting your drivers. I gotta head out.
[01:37] <iBallbag> ok thankyou shurathing. it looks like i may be stuck with it...
[01:37] <xhane> headkase314: Sorry to sound rude, but I have a normal DLink Router, and I have a USB Mobile Broadband, 2 very different things.
[01:37] <xhane> shurathing: Thank you for attempting to help me! :)
[01:37] <shurathing> headkase314: I checked the net and starbucks DOES block port 22... thanks for the info. Heading home to fix that. :)
[01:37] <headkase314> xhane: Ok, can you plug your laptop into the d-link for Internet?
[01:38] <xhane> No
[01:38] <iBallbag> i cant find anything anywhere either. i thought it was me being blind
[01:38] <headkase314> shurathing: At least you know what it is!
[01:38] <xhane> headkase314: I don't have a broadband connection
[01:38] <xhane> That uses modems
[01:39] <headkase314> xhane: you need to get Internet to the ethernet plug on your Ubuntu laptop.  Once you have that then it should be easy from there.
[01:39] <josephseraos> hit there
[01:39] <josephseraos> hi there
[01:39] <MaRk-I> xhane: set this computer to share internet and connect the ubuntu pc to this one
[01:39] <xhane> MaRk-I: I'm trying right now, thank you
[01:40] <Todd_> hi all.  Anyone know how to reinstall ethernet drivers from the command line?
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> Todd_, most "ethernet" drivers are in the kernel.  what are you trying to do?  you can use ifconfig to configure an ethernet card from cli.
[01:41] <iBallbag> not me todd. im a noob too
[01:41] <Todd_> I installed Uguntu server and then the mother board failed so I had to replace the motherboard and now Ubuntu does not connect to the internet.
[01:42] <Todd_> When I run lspci it has two network cards.  when I cat 70-persisten-net.rules it ahs 4 lines.
[01:43] <Todd_> ifconfig does not display the network cards.
[01:43] <kantlivelong1> anyone know why my clock keeps moving one item to the left on boot?
[01:43] <josephseraos_> hi
[01:44] <Todd_> Zy when I went to the ethernet manufacture web site they said the drivers were in the kernel as well.
[01:44] <leftoverpizza> josephseraos_: Hi.
[01:44]  * leftoverpizza wants some josephseraos_ 
[01:44] <dustin> does anyone know how to tether with a blackberyy 8130,and get the desktop software to install, using wine?
[01:44] <Todd_> How do i get the kernel to reinstall the drivers?
[01:44] <ZykoticK9> Todd_, could you pastebin the output of "lspci | grep Ethernet"
[01:44] <leftoverpizza> To
[01:46] <dustin> does anyone know how to tether with a blackberyy 8130,and get the desktop software to install, using wine?
[01:46] <josephseraos_> hi
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> dustin, i don't believe wine by default supports USB devices (i could be wrong) - good luck.
[01:47] <Todd_> Ok the results show 02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C* (rev 10)
[01:47] <Todd_> This line is show twice.
[01:47]  * uRock Thinks Ubuntu is great.
[01:49] <Todd_> Well the second line actually starts with 02:0a.0  but the rest is the same.
[01:49] <Todd_> I have two nic's, one integrated in the mobo and one installed in a PCi slot.
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> Todd_, you might want to see if this applies (looks like you have an "odd" ethernet controller there) http://www.question-defense.com/2010/06/03/ubuntu-10-4-eth0-not-available-rtl-81398139c8139c-rev-10
[01:49] <Phantom-X> hello
[01:50] <Phantom-X> seriously.. who ever works seriously with gnome shell environment ?
[01:51] <blitzo> can someone tell me how to select the version of java that will be used by default
[01:51] <Phantom-X> i mean the UI is bloat for the eyes.. graphical nonsense for the feel of "wow"
[01:51] <uRock> I've tried using the gnome-shell and it wasn't 4 me
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> !ot | Phantom-X
[01:51] <bazhang> Phantom-X, an ubuntu support question in there?
[01:51] <Phantom-X> if you measure the task load index for this... its much higher than i should be.. so its not pragmatic to work with for long times
[01:52] <hormonx> hello ... i hope someone can help me out ...
[01:52] <Phantom-X> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MkBSF4I5lw
[01:52] <Phantom-X> this is why i talk about it here
[01:52] <blitzo> can someone tell me how to select the version of java that will be used by default
[01:52] <Todd_> Zy thanks for the link.  I'll give that a try and see if this is the same issue.
[01:52] <Phantom-X> since ubnuntu supports that nonsense bbloat system
[01:52] <essial> Hey guys, On disk usage analyzer it shows 100% usage at ~
[01:52] <uRock> !hi | hormonx
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> !tab > Todd_
[01:52] <essial> even though I have 1,200gb free
[01:52] <essial> ideas?
[01:52] <IdleOne> Phantom-X: if you feel like blogging there are better forums. This is for ubuntu support not ranting
[01:52] <bazhang> Phantom-X, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <headkase314> Phantom-X: Here to troll?
[01:53] <uRock> !troll
[01:53] <essial> I have a 6.2gb .vmx (virtual box hard disk) file that that seems to use 100% of "/hard disks"
[01:53] <essial> I really don't know what's going on here >.<
[01:53] <bazhang> uRock, headkase314 thats not called for
[01:53] <hormonx> is it possible to give access to a 'www' share to other network computers ?
[01:54] <blitzo> java ques: how do i select the the version that will be used by default?
[01:54] <essial> actually says 631gb free space
[01:54] <jrib> !multijava | blitzo
[01:55] <Four2zero||MW2> whats the best way to connect ubuntu 10.4 to windows network ?
[01:55] <IdleOne> !samba
[01:56] <mathk> Four2zero||MW2: connect is a bit vague
[01:57] <essial> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6708/wthw.png
[01:57] <essial> that's the problem
[01:57] <hormonx> is it possible to give access to a 'www' share to other network computers ? getting access denied error
[01:57] <Four2zero||MW2> mathk, im trying to connect to windows network xp and seven, I do see under <places> and Network > Windows Network
[01:57] <Four2zero||MW2> but when i double click onto it nothing happens accept for the box Opening Windows Network
[01:57] <zealiod> I'm using a ubuntu box as a NAS (with 2 NICs )and PROXY and I'd like to sniff ethernet packets on the network and rea their 802.11q VLAN tag - is this possible?
[01:58] <headkase314> Four2zero||MW2: I know Windows 7 changed shares a bit.  There is a setting you have to change under 7 for Samba to successfully connect.  I don't recall what it is just it has something to do with encryption.
[01:58] <stratagem_bot> I have a JFS partition with 433859420 kilobytes total disk space and jfs_fsck claims I have 399668842 kilobytes in 211292 user files... But when I look the total folder sizes in thunar or with kdirstat, I'm only seeing about 59813 items totally 233.2GB (244527923 kilobytes).  WTF?
[01:59] <nibsa1242> Hello. I'm having issues with 10.04 installing to a software raid 1. Installiation fails during the select and install software steps.
[01:59] <stratagem_bot> totalling..
[01:59] <Four2zero||MW2> and what about xp shares ?
[01:59] <headkase314> Four2zero||MW2: As far as xp shares go you should be good - unless the 7 shares are interfering somehow?
[02:00] <Mahjongg> hi, what is the difference between storing and sync'ing a file/folder on UbuntuOne?
[02:00] <uRock> Which is better, filezilla or samba for multi os networks?
[02:01] <uRock> Mahjongg, wouldn't syncing be like having a live folder?
[02:02] <uRock> I don't know much about it
[02:02] <Mahjongg> uRock, what is a live folder?
[02:02] <hoober> hey guys
[02:02] <nibsa1242> Can anyone help with install issue -> new box, using alternate install CD, can't seem to finish select and install software step on Software Raid 1.
[02:02] <essial> heh / usage, 100%
[02:02] <essial> free space: 1,626.9GB
[02:02] <hoober> how do i develop windows 7 64bit drivers on ubuntu? and i want to do masm32 programming on ubuntu just to be safe
[02:03] <essial> So EXT3 freaks out when < 1.2 terabytes of hard disk space are left? :p
[02:03] <uRock> I would guess it would be like having a folder that automatically uplods and downloads when you add or take away
[02:03] <essial> hoober: HEH
[02:03] <hoober> ?
[02:03] <headkase314> hoober: you have to be kidding.
[02:03] <essial> I hope so too
[02:03] <hoober> this is the way to do it i read
[02:03] <Rolotony> Hello, Having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it runs Windows XP like a champ, I installed Badger, it worked liked a champ, then I go to install Ubuntu 10 and it get i/o errors
[02:03] <uRock> essial, EXT4 is better for large files
[02:03] <essial> using a microsoft assembler writing non-portable code on a portable OS
[02:03] <Four2zero||MW2> well im able to connect to my ftp server via firefox.
[02:04] <essial> uRock: I'm not changing filesystems with 1tb+ of medical records stored
[02:04] <hoober> but why not
[02:04] <essial> the server was set up before ext4 was stabilized
[02:04] <uRock> Understoodable
[02:04] <essial> but how do I have 100% usage on / yet have 1.3tb free hard drive space
[02:04] <Rolotony> anyone?
[02:05] <mathk> hoober: why would someone do such a weird things :)
[02:05] <hoober> I have lots of ram if that matters
[02:05] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: why not? what prevents you?
[02:05] <uRock> that is beyond me
[02:05] <hoober> mathk, to be safe
[02:05] <th0r> essial: how much free space on the partition that contains /
[02:05] <smackmanic> is there a lighter version of the livedisk...im using an ancient machine and for the life of me can't free up enough space to download the liveusb
[02:05] <mathk> hoober: what do you mean by safe ?
[02:05] <hoober> Ubuntu is stable place for the development i want to do
[02:05] <essial> it LOOKS like its simply not updating
[02:05] <smackmanic> (can't get ubuntu running, won't mount it for some reason...so i need something that will allow me to sudo-apt and what not)
[02:05] <essial> I dropped 400gb worth of old backups
[02:05] <esfahankids> hi
[02:06] <headkase314> hoober: for Windows 7 drivers you need a 7 environment to run them in.  You also need to disable driver signatures as those are enforced by Windows 7.  If you want to learn 7 drivers, ubuntu is not the operating system for you.  A virtual machine would be one way to go about it but virtual machines typically only emulate a 32 bit environment.  Short answer: Ubuntu is not suitable for Windows 7 64-bit driver develop
[02:06] <smackmanic> happened after i updated
[02:06] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan the install just says that it fails, doesn't give a reason, and then it locks up; its stopped at 70% and 10%; I already checked the disk for errors
[02:06] <bazhang> smackmanic, lubuntu? gnome/ubuntu live cd is a bit less than 700MB
[02:06] <brady> hello everyone
[02:06] <esfahankids> how i can install .tar.gz file in ubuntu?
[02:06] <brady> anyone in here able to navigate their iphone well in ubuntu?
[02:06] <bazhang> smackmanic, or you could get the 12MB minimal iso and build from there
[02:06] <uRock> esfahankids, what kind of program is it?
[02:06] <esfahankids> empathy
[02:06] <arand> !compile | esfahankids
[02:06] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: weird. setting up raid all went smoothly?
[02:07] <bazhang> !minimal > smackmanic
[02:07] <essial> or does disk usage = percent of disk data on a particular path
[02:07] <smackmanic> bazhang: i can sudo apt and what not with the min?
[02:07] <smackmanic> okay
[02:07] <esfahankids> tahnks
[02:07] <bazhang> smackmanic, yep of course
[02:07] <essial> like if 90% of my data storage files are in ~/mp3 would it show ~/mp3 at 90% usage?
[02:07] <gafir> doesn't this article sound like pure propaganda to you: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/202177/warning_five_things_to_know_before_switching_to_linux.html?tk=hp_new
[02:08] <bazhang> !ot | gafir
[02:08] <th0r> essial: use 'df' to determine how much space is left for each partition
[02:08] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan raid went fine, seemed really fast though (like it isn't really formatting) I had 9.04 on her before, but the upgrade to 9.10 borked the whole system. Erased everything on drives to start over from scrach, and figured might as well use 10.04
[02:08] <essial> th0r: sudo df / says 2% used
[02:08] <smackmanic> bazhang: one more question....i can follow the instructions to boot it from a usb device instead of a cd ? or is the .iso specifically designed for cds..
[02:09] <brady> anyone help with iphone support?
[02:09] <th0r> essial: is that the only partition you have?
[02:09] <gafir> bazhang: thx
[02:09] <pie> so i think gnome just restarted and im like wtf...and now my screen resolution is smaller...
[02:09] <bazhang> smackmanic, the lubuntu iso? try unetbootin to write to flash key
[02:09] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: I'm afraid all I've got is dwonload & burn a new disk...
[02:09] <uRock> !details | brady
[02:09] <Ivancho> e_e
[02:09] <pie> im on ubuntu 9.10
[02:09] <essial> th0r: I have three disks, one mounted at /, and two maounted at /storage/disk#
[02:09] <pie> and this has happened before, without the resolution problem
[02:10] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: I'm trying that now. Stupid laptop won't burn slower than 10x. If this cd doesn't work I'll try buring the image onto a DVD
[02:10] <smackmanic> sorry bazhang let me look that up...i haven't slept in a couple days
[02:10] <brady> Well running ubuntu 10.04, iphone 3gs.  I was wanting to know if there was any solution for syncing contacts and calender from email program
[02:10] <uRock> !iphone
[02:10] <essial> th0r: disk0 says 3% and disk1 says 63% which makes a LOT more sense
[02:10] <pie> and also all my programs closed, whick is probably because gnome restarted
[02:10] <bazhang> smackmanic, you running ubuntu now? or windows
[02:10] <th0r> what is telling you 100% usage?
[02:10] <essial> so WTH is disk usage showing, pure usage
[02:10] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: The other thing you can try is to switch to TTY4 when it fails to read the error
[02:10] <essial> Disk usage -- hence my question, is taht total usage or relative usage
[02:10] <hoober> back sorry i made a tuna-egg sandwhich
[02:10] <bazhang> smackmanic, unetbootin is in the repos, for windows its at unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[02:10] <pie> and i really need to get this fixed ASAP :(
[02:11] <uRock> hoober, that is gross
[02:11] <essial> I was getting out of space errors and dumped about a year's worth of backups, I believe that fixed the problem, it's just that 100% on / looks scary in DUA
[02:11] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: that would be (some key + f4)?
[02:11] <th0r> essial: what 'disk usage'? are you using the 'du' command? or getting this from some gnome app?
[02:11] <smackmanic> bazhang: im in the windows partition, it drops me straight to busybox when i allow ubuntu to attempt to start up
[02:11] <StrangeCharm> after a reboot, the network manager applet is missing from my tray. how can i make it come back?
[02:11] <essial> the Disk Usage Analyzer app
[02:11] <essial> du's output makes sense
[02:11] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: Ctrl-Alt-F4
[02:11] <smackmanic> bazhang: okay unet is the tool that will make that min iso work on the usb
[02:11] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: thanks, I'll take a look at it
[02:11] <smackmanic> if I understand correctly now
[02:11] <mathk> hoober: you can use a VM for what you call safety
[02:11] <picard1421> is it better to make a liveCD of something or to install to it.. what i mean is ... like for Ubuntu.. is it better to like do a normal install and just choose my flash drive as the "disk" or do i need to make a live cd.. whats the pros/ cons of htis?
[02:11] <GeneralSaint> I am having a problem with wget, ubuntu 10.4 lamp 32 bit, Wget is an unknown command. Im quite the n00b at linux so go easy on me :-)
[02:11] <hoober> this is sad
[02:12] <hoober> I REALLY REAlly wanted to use a Ubuntu to App to do this work
[02:12] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: if it doesn't show in 4, check 2-6 as well (it's been a while since I did an install)
[02:12] <pie> someone please help me out :(
[02:12] <bazhang> smackmanic, minimal iso? never known it to do that, I was referring to lubuntu iso minimal still requires a cd to boot afaik
[02:12] <th0r> essial: that is probably a problem with the app. I don't use gnome so I can't help with that. If 'df' shows enough space I wouldn't worry about it
[02:12] <essial> AH geese
[02:12] <uRock> hoober, I use VBox to run other OSes when I need to get something done
[02:12] <essial> th0r: yeah apparently "usage" is relative in DUA
[02:12] <Mr_Sonoma> pie, what's the issue?
[02:12] <essial> and du looks exactly as I expected
[02:13] <essial> th0r: thanks, you made a sysadmin happy :)
[02:13] <smackmanic> bazhang: ouch...you're saying I can't use a usb device to....basically sudo apt grub...or figure out whats going on with my OS
[02:13] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: ok, thanks; I hate installing, but my experience is that an upgrade has a 50% chance of borking the whole system... and normally I find it easier to just reinstall than rescue the upgrade
[02:13] <essial> that's what i get for looking at GUI tools FOR ONCe
[02:13] <hoober> I have Virtual Box, and my Ubuntu is in the Virtual Box. Can i develop in masm32 and make windows 7 drivers in it
[02:13] <essial> I'll just stick to ssh :p
[02:13] <mathk> GeneralSaint: aptitude search wget
[02:13] <bazhang> smackmanic, why not fix your current situation instead of reinstalling a new system
[02:13] <extraclassic> hi...I'm trying to configure lamp in Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm not sure the packages installed right
[02:13] <smackmanic> bazhang: i'm not trying to reinstall the OS
[02:13] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: I've had good experiences upgrading my Raid1 setup (aprt from KMS)
[02:13] <smackmanic> bazhang: just trying to figure out what the h is up with it. heh
[02:14] <mathk> hoober: you may do the other way round
[02:14] <bazhang> smackmanic, checked in grub menu? hold shift at boot
[02:14] <smackmanic> googled all night...people are having the same or similar prob...but i can't find a proper solution heh
[02:14] <essial> extraclassic: uh... sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[02:14] <mathk> ubuntu hosting a windows
[02:14] <essial> done
[02:14] <hoober> but i have Windows 7 as a host OS. I don't see why doing it the other way around is helpful
[02:14]  * essial huggles ubuntu
[02:14] <GeneralSaint> mathk, aptitude command not found :o
[02:15] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: its not just this system... I have about a 50% chance of upgrade killing any system (home file server, personal laptop, other half's lappy, dual boot gaming box)
[02:15] <solid_liq> hoober, why do you need asm to develop a device driver?
[02:15] <essial> cnf wget   oh wait :)
[02:15] <extraclassic> I was trying to get php to work with mysql and the mysql_connect() wasn't working....I edited my php.ini file and it still won't work
[02:15] <Mahjongg> hi, what is the difference between storing and sync'ing a file/folder on UbuntuOne?
[02:15] <uRock> hoober, you can do anything you want within the vbox, but the vbox doesn't work the same with your hardware when it comes to drivers
[02:15] <bazhang> !ubuntuone | Mahjongg
[02:15] <essial> hoober: Linux is multi-arch
[02:15] <mathk> GeneralSaint: apt-cache search wget
[02:15] <KwikkSilva> hi all
[02:15] <extraclassic> someone said that my mysql.so file was in the wrong place
[02:15] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: Man, that is some risk profile you are carrying there :)
[02:15] <essial> hoober: writing it in assembler is kinda... a bad idea
[02:15] <hoober> Ok All I want is to know where to download the Windows 7 64 bit Driver dev kit, within the Ubuntu Software Center. And possibly how to find a MASM32 dev kit in the software center
[02:15] <bazhang> hoober, no
[02:15] <essial> ............
[02:16] <GeneralSaint> Oh apt did work, thanks !
[02:16] <essial> hoober: what are you talkinga bout
[02:16] <KwikkSilva> I need to mess with some network settings on 10.04 LTS - In the Network Applet i don't see anywhere to change the broadcast address of an interface?
[02:16] <essial> hoober: Why would Linux have a Windows driver dev kit, that makes absolutely no sense
[02:16] <cast> nibsa1242: wow. considered an OS with a safer upgrade mechanism?
[02:16] <bazhang> hoober, ##windows for developing windows drivers NOT here
[02:16] <uRock> hoober, there is a search function in USC
[02:16] <klappi> extraclassic: i was wrong
[02:16] <hoober> Essial, because developing on ubuntu for windows is different thant developing on windows for windows
[02:16] <bazhang> hoober, please stop
[02:16] <essial> hoober: well good luck with that
[02:16] <hoober> i am trying to listen
[02:16] <hoober> should i contact support?
[02:17] <essial> not really hoober, have you ever written device drivers?
[02:17] <bazhang> hoober, developing windows drivers has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:17] <essial> I mean real device drivers, not serial port or parallel port stuff
[02:17] <nibsa1242> cast: I have, but other half likes Ubuntu, and doesn't want anything else on her lappy. So, if I migrate to something else on the other machines then I have to know both Ubuntu and the other distro.
[02:17] <uRock> hoober, we understand you want to turn windows drivers into linux compatible drivers
[02:17] <hoober> essial, i actually haven't written a device driver ever, this is why i want to try. but safe under Ubuntu
[02:17] <essial> hoober: what you're asking makes NO sense
[02:17] <albert105129> What's new?
[02:17] <essial> hoober: You are failing at some VERY basic concepts here
[02:17] <bazhang> !ot > hoober
[02:17] <albert105129> quit
[02:17] <uRock> it is just not something that many people do, so finding help with it is a bit harder
[02:17] <nibsa1242> cast: jasonwryan so instead, I just partition /home out by itself and back everything up... and only upgrade when I have a spare weekend
[02:17] <essial> hoober: drivers are intrisicly tied to the OS
[02:18] <essial> hoober: why do you think XP drivers for WINDOWS doesn't work with vista drivers for WINDOWS
[02:18] <hoober> can't i just drag and drop them into shared folder for testing on windwos 7
[02:18] <cast> nibsa1242: maybe lvm snapshots would help you
[02:18]  * essial facepalms
[02:18]  * essial gives up
[02:18] <KwikkSilva> eeek
[02:18] <nibsa1242> cast: I know practically nothing about lvm, other then I'm going to try it out with this new install.
[02:18] <mathk> hoober: again what do you mean by safe, think of it twice before answer
[02:18] <strats> hello all, I would like to know if anyone could direct me somewhere I could find some information (a website, A book, whatever) on how to customize my desktop
[02:18] <headkase314> hoober: the development environment needs to match the target.  You will not find Ubuntu tools that target Windows 7.  Google some Windows tools and you'll find plenty.
[02:18] <jasonwryan> nibsa1242: Installing all the other stuff sucks though... (at least it does on my bandwidth)
[02:19] <uRock> mathk, hoober's gone
[02:19] <smackmanic> brb
[02:19] <mathk> uRock: right :) thanks bazhang
[02:19] <strats> hello all, I would like to know if anyone could direct me somewhere I could find some information (a website, A book, whatever) on how to customize my desktop, preferably Gnome and XFCE
[02:20] <bazhang> !themes > strats
[02:20] <cast> nibsa1242: learning, it's fun!
[02:20] <nibsa1242> jasonwryan: yes, it does suck... which is why I use the spare weekend, incase I just need to rescue the install - which is very fun & educational the first time, and very annoying after that
[02:20] <uRock> bazhang, I like the use of ">" I didn't know ubottu does that
[02:21] <bazhang> uRock, its very handy to avoid flooding the channel
[02:21] <mathk> !help > mathk
[02:21] <KwikkSilva> guys - can i set up like, a broadcast address int eh network applet in 10.04
[02:21] <mathk> help
[02:21] <bazhang> you can also /msg ubottu factoid for more
[02:22] <KwikkSilva> for any of my interfaces.. i dont see it
[02:22] <uRock> I'll give it a try
[02:23] <Furtano> hi
[02:24] <Abaratican> I have an ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 server install in a vm, and I don't have ubuntu desktop installed (and I don't want it)... I use an external X server for my GUI applications, but I can't get my clearlooks theme to work on them.  However, if in the VM i run "gnome-appearance-properties", as soon as that window opens, all my external X windows immediately start to use clearlooks and remain using it until I reboot... any idea what 
[02:24] <mathk> KwikkSilva: isn't that the netmask and your ip adresse gave you the broadcast
[02:24] <madamps> hey #ubuntu, i downloaded the latest version of ubuntu and burned it on a cd. i haven't installed it yet. i want to install linux mint instead. is it possible to isntall ubuntu and then install to mint, or should i just download mint and install it fresh?
[02:24] <Schmitty> I am having trouble installing kubuntu on my IBM 5120. It's a bit dated but it's a solid system.
[02:25] <essial> Shmitty how much ram does it have
[02:25] <mathk> KwikkSilva: you shouldn't have to set it up
[02:25] <Schmitty> essial: 320
[02:25] <KwikkSilva> hmm - not sure - i'm trying to follow a guide on arp setup and it asks me to give some pretty wierd BC address to my cards
[02:25] <Schmitty> essial: thats 320k
[02:25] <strats> madamps you could do it but is it worth time and effort? I don't think so
[02:25] <w1n5ton> How do I set up a workgroup for 2 ubuntu machines?
[02:25] <essial> schmitty: HAAHHAH
[02:25] <headkase314> !themes > headkase314
[02:25] <essial> schmitty: never gonna happen man, try xfce
[02:25] <Schmitty> essial: lol
[02:26] <xhane> headkase314: On my Ubuntu now
[02:26] <xhane> Using the USB Modem
[02:26] <essial> schmitty: You need at least 1 gig to run properly, thats 1,024 megs
[02:26] <madamps> strats so i should juist download and go fresh? my roommates playing warcraft 3 on battle net so i can't saturate the internet with torrents. i guess i'll go direct download now. thanks for the wisdom
[02:26] <Schmitty> essial: google the IBM 5120 and checkout what it looks like
[02:26] <essial> doesn't matter
[02:26] <Furtano> how can i make my softwre setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh
[02:26] <headkase314> xhane: Good, run update manager and check for updates install all it offers
[02:26] <essial> if you don't have enough ram you don't have enough ram
[02:26] <w1n5ton> Is there a way other than SSH?
[02:27] <nibsa1242> cast: jasonwryan Any idea how long is normal for 1TB of Raid 1 to format a partition?
[02:27] <Annie> ok... Traveling out of the states. Need to know a good port to ssh through. 22 is blocked by Starbucks and I don't want to be screwed when I'm overseas.
[02:27] <Schmitty> essial: this is a joke...............
[02:27] <cast> nibsa1242: depends on the filesystem, ext3 is very slow
[02:27] <headkase314> xhane: you'll probably have to reboot because there will be a kernel update in there.  Once you do come back to this channel.
[02:27] <strats> schmitty you should five a try to minix
[02:27] <nibsa1242> cast: I'm doing ext4...
[02:29] <mathk> w1n5ton: why not ssh?
[02:29] <Furtano> how can i make my Ubuntu setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh
[02:29] <nibsa1242> cast: jasonwryan it is just sitting at 33%, but at least it seems to be doing something this time; last time it said the partition formatted in about 30 seconds, and then it went on with the install. I actually hear my hard drive doing something.
[02:29] <w1n5ton> How do I set it up so it will be accessible under Network?
[02:30] <nibsa1242> cast: I take that back; the install in now continuing. So according to the installer it must be done... because it is just continuing on
[02:30] <Todd_> Zy looked close but tried the solution there and not working for me.  When I run the mii command to force the speed I get error. Invalid argument.
[02:30] <mbeierl> I've got a good burn of a lucid cd, but on one computer only, I keep getting an "error reading disk" with error code 8042009 in the upper left corner.  anyone know what that is?
[02:31] <mathk> Can you say what do you mean by workgroup, what would you like to be?
[02:31] <Annie> Need to know a good port to ssh through. 22 is blocked by Starbucks and I don't want to be screwed when I'm overseas.
[02:31] <cast> Annie: 80
[02:31] <cast> Annie: 53 might be good, too
[02:31] <mathk> w1n5ton: see my previous log
[02:31] <xhane> mbeierl
[02:31] <BentFranklin> Doing a new Kubuntu 10.4.  At the partition screen.  The default is one big partition (plus swap but they don't even show that).  I want to put home and maybe var on their own partitions so it one bloats I can still boot.  Is that old-fashioned?
[02:31] <bazhang> !home > BentFranklin
[02:31] <w1n5ton> Share folders and files between them
[02:32] <Todd_> I might just try a different nic card tomorrow and see how that goes.  Thanks for the help.
[02:32] <bazhang> BentFranklin, no its an excellent idea, at least home
[02:32] <mbeierl> cast: Annie: you could also try using 443.  if the isp wants to inspect the traffic, they'll at least see ssl traffic
[02:32] <xhane> mbeierl: The disc might be scractched?
[02:32] <xhane> scratched*
[02:32] <Annie> cast: Thank you... I'll check those out
[02:32] <Schmitty> I just bought a new laptop, a Zenith MiniSport for 3 grand, I was told it was cutting edge technology, I need someone to help me install ubuntu on it
[02:32] <nibsa1242> BentFranklin: no, it is not old fashioned. I say do it. I've had issued with a bloated var causing a no boot. You may also want /boot on its own issue.
[02:32] <cast> mbeierl: they wont see ssl traffic.
[02:32] <shreymech> hi all
[02:32] <mbeierl> xhane: and the one computer more sensitive?
[02:32] <SubCool> Could someone help me trouble shoot a script for my vncserver? i followed the directions, also got help from someone here, but we are baffled. I site i am referring off of is http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/ and the error im coming up with is. Command not found. The line that is causing this error is OPTIONS=”-name ${NAME} -depth ${DEPTH} -geometry ${GEOMETRY} :${DISPLAY}”
[02:32] <Annie> cast: I figured there was a reason 22 was blocked... if I need to appease the isp I'll do that no problem
[02:32] <mbeierl> cast: no?  ssh over 443 won't show the same as ssl?
[02:32] <shreymech> how can crearte the backup copy of my old kernel image ...??
[02:32] <headkase314> mbeierl: maybe the one computer needs to have a cleaning disc run in it?
[02:33] <cast> mbeierl: nope.
[02:33] <Schmitty> I just bought a new laptop, a Zenith MiniSport for 3 grand, I was told it was cutting edge technology, I need someone to help me install suse on it
[02:33] <critt> I have ubuntu 10.04 . I just installed Kubuntu on a second partition. Now Kubuntu partition has the bootloader on it. Is there an easy way to un-install Kubuntu's partition and not mess up My Ubuntu from loading?
[02:33] <SuNk8> guys, my dpkg is stuck. I tried to install flashplugin-installer thro the flash ppa and it didn't work out. when i run dpkg --configure -a, it gets stuck at HTTP awating response. Reboot, no go. Any suggestions?
[02:33] <mbeierl> headkase314: I actually did try a different dvd/cd reader in the computer and got the same error... thanks, I'll try a reburn at lower speed, or another disk
[02:33] <bazhang> Schmitty, #suse
[02:34] <w1n5ton> Like a windows-style network connection
[02:34] <mbeierl> xhane: thanks. I'll be trying another disk - might be sensitive to defects. who knows?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> SuNk8: For now do you want to get the flash plugin working or just quickly get dpkg working again?
[02:34] <nibsa1242> mbeier you may also consider using a DVD instead of CD to burn; they read faster and make install happen a little quicker
[02:34] <mathk> w1n5ton: well you have nfs or smb or ssh
[02:34] <Annie> cast: thanks for your help.
[02:34] <headkase314> xhane: How is the wireless coming?
[02:34] <mbeierl> nibsa1242: can I burn the standard iso to dvd?
[02:35] <w1n5ton> how do I set it up?
[02:35] <SuNk8> Jordan, I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)
[02:35] <xhane> mbeierl: Also check that you're using the right type of media, like DVD-R, DVD + R, CD etc.
[02:35] <Jordan_U> mbeierl: Yes.
[02:35] <mathk> !nfs > w1n5ton
[02:35] <SuNk8> Jordan_U, , I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)
[02:35] <xhane> Also check if your reader is CD/DVD
[02:35] <headkase314> mbeierl: The install I'm using right now came from a cd .iso I burnt on a DVD...
[02:35] <mathk> !nfs > mathk
[02:35] <xhane> I used to have that problem
[02:35] <Annie> brb
[02:35] <mbeierl> xhane: nibsa1242L Jordan_u: thanks! will try!
[02:35] <xhane> headkase314: I just updated using Update Manager
[02:36] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: yes, you may burn the standard iso to dvd, but some programs don't like it (it does work though)
[02:36] <mathk> !smb > w1n5ton
[02:36] <Jordan_U> mbeierl: You're welcome.
[02:36] <headkase314> xhane: Ok, now go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[02:36] <SuNk8> !smb > sunk8
[02:36] <w1n5ton> is ubottu a bot?
[02:36] <headkase314> xhane: Hopefully your wireless will be there and you can just activate the driver.  Then unplug the wired and reboot to test.
[02:36] <xhane> headkase314: Now what do I do?
[02:36] <Annie> cast: by the way.. when forwarding my ports for ssh, should I choose tcp, udp or both?
[02:36] <mathk> w1n5ton: yup
[02:36] <SuNk8> w1n5ton, yup.
[02:36] <Abaratican> I want to add a program to start when the system boots on an ubuntu 10.04 _server_ install, where would be most appropriate to add it?
[02:36] <SuNk8> lol
[02:36] <w1n5ton> hive mind
[02:36] <GeneralSaint> When the torrent finishes, it executes "mv -n <base_path> ~/Download/" base_path is a variable but I wouldnt exactly know what to put there
[02:36] <SuNk8> Jordan_U, Sir, I want to get dpkg to work again. Would be great if you could tell me how. :-)
[02:37] <headkase314> xhane: Ok, now go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[02:37] <headkase314> xhane: Hopefully your wireless will be there and you can just activate the driver.  Then unplug the wired and reboot to test.
[02:37] <Jordan_U> SuNk8: "gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.postinst" Add "exit 0" on the line above "set -e".
[02:37] <Furtano> how can i make my Ubuntu setup script -without it ask "Continue ? y / n :" ?    www.furtano.de/scripts/installscript_ubuntu_2010.sh
[02:38] <mathk> !factoid > w1n5ton
[02:38] <SuNk8> Jordan_U, thanks a lot... I'll do it right away... ;-)
[02:38] <Jordan_U> SuNk8: You're welcome.
[02:38] <Tohuw> !clone > tohuw
[02:38] <strats> anyone knows a nice, simple applet for gnome doing cpu utilization, network bandwith, logged user etc..?
[02:39] <BentFranklin> Thanks, bazhang and nibsa.  Now, is the default filesystem ext4 what I want for all my partitions (except swap)?  And to I have to make swap myself since I'm going manually?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Furtano: sudo apt-get -y install
[02:39] <trumpeet> help getting my sound working again
[02:39] <Furtano> Jordan_U, ty great
[02:39] <Abaratican> !autorun
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Furtano: You're welcome.
[02:40] <Abaratican> (Repeating because almost surely someone should know this and I'm assuming it was overlooked) I want to add a program to start when the system boots on an ubuntu 10.04 _server_ install, where would be most appropriate to add it?
[02:40] <Abaratican> I half expect there's a !bla for this already.
[02:40] <mathk> strats: look at the default installed applet there is one for monitoring
[02:40] <nibsa1242> BentFranklin: I'm not qualified to answer that question -- I'm using all ext4 on one machine, and ext 3 on my dual boot box ; bazhang?
[02:40] <xhane> headkase314: Nothing shows up in Hardware Drivers
[02:40] <mbeierl> Abaratican: you're talking about adding something to the install cd?
[02:40] <wedwo> aba
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Abaratican:  dpends on what the program is doing. theres always /etc/rc.local
[02:41] <mathk> strats: can't remember the exact name since I am not on an ubuntu right now
[02:41] <Xaifas> installed and configured my ssh server and i want to see if I can connect to it from the internet , can I simulate it if I ssh to another box then ssh to current one?
[02:41] <wedwo> Abaratican, check man cron and crontab
[02:41] <bazhang> BentFranklin, sure ext4
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Xaifas:  yes. :)
[02:41] <Abaratican> Dr_Willis: i'm not running X, but i want gnome-settings-daemon to autostart (so my external X windows have themes)
[02:41] <mbeierl> Abaratican: if it's just a start on boot, then Dr_Willis' suggestion of rc.local is probably the best
[02:41] <headkase314> xhane: I'm at a loss without that.  Recap your situation so everyone else here in the channel knows where you are: basically, have Internet access through wired connection and need help getting wireless driver.
[02:41] <StrangeCharm> after a reboot, the network manager applet is missing from my tray. how can i make it come back?
[02:41] <headkase314> xhane: And mention it's not in Hardware Drivers.
[02:42] <Xaifas> well I tried, and it kinda gives no answer no error and not asking for pass to connect either
[02:42] <Xaifas> any suggestion Dr_Willis ?
[02:42] <nibsa1242> xhane what wireless card do you have?
[02:42] <Abaratican> mbeierl: i was thinking there was some init/runlevel thing but i can't recall... rc.local works too I suppose.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Xaifas:  try the ssh -v or -vv or -vvv option to get verbose output and messages. and check the server logs.
[02:42] <Xaifas> k sec
[02:43] <strats> mathk I know the app in the system but I want it on my desktop at all time
[02:43] <nibsa1242> whoa, random reboot during install wth
[02:43] <xhane> I'm currently using a Mobile Broadband to connect to the internet, but I have trouble connecting wireless connections, let alone detect them.
[02:44] <strats> mathk I want something similar to what !#crunchbang 9.04 use
[02:44] <mbeierl> Abaratican: not sure about the gnome-settings-daemon running without having a DISPLAY set, though.  It seems an odd problem in this case for rc.local - which runs as root, not your user
[02:44] <Xaifas> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[02:44] <Xaifas> debug1: Connecting to 89.123.41.5 [89.123.41.5] port 2502.
[02:44] <Xaifas>  And it just stalls ... have to ctrl + z
[02:44] <critt> I have 2 Partitions. Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Kubuntu is set to boot first . Can I delete Kubuntu Part without screwing up My Ubuntu Part?
[02:44] <smackmanic> bazhang: i found a thread with my exact problem..i need to edit what grub is booting..apparently it's a common bug...umm..i edited it to /dev/sda1, that didnt work, then tried sda2. i'm doing something wrong...would you mind if i sent you the link or /msg you the supposed solution
[02:44] <Xaifas> hmm got a connection timeout this time
[02:44] <smackmanic> if I can get it to boot..then I can fsck
[02:44] <strats> whois strats
[02:45] <Xaifas> possible I failed configuring the server or what could be the prob Dr_Willis ? daemon is on, port is opened, and listens dont know what im doing wrong
[02:45] <smackmanic> perhaps the ( )'s shouldn't be used... maybe just root=sda1 or root=sda2 ?
[02:45] <smackmanic> because the ones I tried already the ('s...so i wrote inside of them...
[02:46] <wedwo> strats is hammer
[02:46] <smackmanic> =/
[02:46] <strats> wedwo no kidding :P
[02:46] <DavidJHeinrich1>  hi all, the Amarok collection, is that an actual folder on the computer? is it possible to add files to the amarok collection while leaving their location in the same spot? also, why is trying to change the naming convention for the collections so SLOW?
[02:48] <critt> test
[02:49] <linuxguys> it works
[02:49] <nibsa1242> if I'm having trouble installing onto a software raid 1 situation, is it possible just to install to one drive and make it a raid 1 later, or is that complex and annoying
[02:49] <critt> Just got silent
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Xaifas:  all you can do is check the logs and the 'verbose' output from ssh and see whast its saying.
[02:49] <Schmitty> can someone help me with my Kenbak-1 system?
[02:50] <smackmanic> oh no...im reading the grub page .... it says if its not ran as root it will produce bogus error msgs saying the device does not exist
[02:50] <smackmanic> this is getting crazy
[02:51] <Xaifas> ssh localhost seems to work but not from another box
[02:51] <Xaifas> bleh
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  what are you doing exactly?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  because from what ive seen you mention. you may be doing some things funamentally wrong. :)
[02:51] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis: apparently i caught the update bug heh.....updated to the latest ver of ubuntu..rebooted..it wont mount it, it gives me list of errors and sends me to busybox
[02:51] <mbeierl> headkase314: nibsa1242: still no go with the dvd.  It's got to be some problem with dvd.  I can only assume there's a problem booting off cd with that pc.  I did boot the xp install disk though, so I'm at a loss... thanks anyway
[02:51] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis: I agree...
[02:52] <critt> Can someone help with a Partition question?
[02:52] <smackmanic> the biggest problem is that I cannot use a livecd or liveusb...so I'm hoping I can edit grub and then fsck and what not to fix it
[02:52] <bazhang> critt, please ask a question
[02:52] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: you can try a usb install
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  normally grub installs to the MBR of the hard drive. But youa re setting the 'root' option? thats normally done via the UUID of teh fiklesystem not  the sda/sdb1 type nameing
[02:52] <critt> I have 2 Partitions. Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Kubuntu is set to boot first . Can I delete Kubuntu Part without screwing up My Ubuntu Part?
[02:52] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: or you can try a network install (I think Ubuntu supports that)
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> critt:  it depends on which os is contriolling grub.
[02:52] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis....uhhh.....im actually pretty sure im not root when i edit
[02:52] <bazhang> critt, why not just install kubuntu-desktop with ubuntu?
[02:53] <critt> Kubuntu is right now
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  you have to be root when altering system files.. thats a given
[02:53] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis: would it be okay if I sent you a link...or the cliffnote of the solution heh
[02:53] <bazhang> critt, or ubuntu-desktop with kubuntu
[02:53] <critt> DIdnt know I could
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> critt:  you may need to reinstall grub then. You COULD boot to ubuntu now, and update-grub and in theory the UBUNTU os will be the one contriolling grub. then you can delete the kubuntu partitions
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  im going to work in 3 min...
[02:53] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis: this grubhowto page says if its not run as root i will get bogus error msgs...so idk.
[02:53] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis...ouch
[02:53] <chilli0> Can anyone explain why sometimes my external hard drive mounts on diffrent points?
[02:54] <bazhang> critt, sure, lubuntu-desktop , edubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop etc
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  you need to run system type tools as root.. thats pretty fundamental.
[02:54] <critt> Im in Ubuntu now
[02:54] <nibsa1242> critt: you could also hand configure grub, but its been a while since I've done that
[02:54] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis: the problem is i can't even sudo in busybox...
[02:54] <chilli0> Some times its /dev/sdf1 others its sdb1
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> smackmanic:  in busybox you are allready root i imagine. but busybox is not the normal ubuntu installed system..
[02:54] <bazhang> critt, then just choose which desktop from login window
[02:54] <critt> I tried to open grub but page was blank
[02:55] <smackmanic> Dr_Willis....hahaha I know...
[02:55] <smackmanic> "root=/dev/sdXX somehow all this got messed up in the update."
[02:55] <bazhang> critt, its grub2 now
[02:55] <smackmanic> that's partially from the solution post
[02:55] <bazhang> !grub2 | critt
[02:56] <critt> Well I did resize the partitions with Qpart to reclaim my space. BUt was just wondering if I could delete it all together
[02:56] <smackmanic> critt: lol ive always been to scared to resize...my HD is failing...dont think it'd take it
[02:58] <smackmanic> im going to restart and try it again....
[02:58] <cvnmk> if i compile vanilla kernel according to my hardware, this improves performance?
[02:58] <smackmanic> brb (HOPEFULLY)
[02:58] <critt> Have 500 gig. Had it split down the middle. My mistake . I just wanted to test out Kubuntu. Noob to the core LOL
[02:58] <rww> cvnmk: probably not
[02:58] <nibsa1242> I know this is kinda heresy, but if I can't get this software raid-1 server install to work should I try (1) another distro or (2) is it easy to just install to one disk and raid it to the second disk later?
[02:58] <cvnmk> rww: why not?  i will remove junky modules
[02:59] <nibsa1242> cvnmk: probably not enough to see a difference, but it can be fun to do
[02:59] <rww> cvnmk: because modules aren't loaded unless they're used, and the majority of startup time isn't spent on the kernal.
[02:59] <rww> kernel **
[03:00] <rww> if you have a boot time of 10 seconds and 1 second is the kernel, there's not much point in optimizing the 1 s :\
[03:01] <cvnmk> rww: i thought it provides disk speed
[03:02] <iBallbag> i solved the auth popup while doing anything problem
[03:03] <iBallbag> silly policykit causes it
[03:04] <Tao> I'm having problems with updates. Every time I got the terminal and input "sudo apt-get update", it goes through nearly all of them perfectly, except for one: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:04] <Tao> Any helpful people out there willing to lend assistance?
[03:05] <iBallbag> i didnt get that far with ubuntu yet
[03:05] <Tao> Anybody else wanna help?
[03:05] <pie> i dont know who said it, and thanks for the effort, but restarting gdm didnt work
[03:06] <DasEi> Tao: I just came in, what's the issue ?
[03:06] <iBallbag> im proud for killing the uac in 10.04
[03:06] <Tao> [22:04] <Tao> I'm having problems with updates. Every time I got the terminal and input "sudo apt-get update", it goes through nearly all of them perfectly, except for one: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:06] <pie> however when i rebooted the computer i let it go into low graphics mode or what and now it look like it works
[03:06] <shreymech> hi all...!! i am using a USB ethernet interface for wired connection as my ethernet port is gone... my system was detecting my USB-ethernet adapter automatically in my linux-image 2.6.32-22 but later on due to image kernel upgrades to 2.6.32-23 and latest (2.6.32-24) .. these lastest upgrades are not supporting my USB-ethernet adapters.. please help me out.. i am using the adapter in 2.6.32-22 bcz in this version its supporting... my adpater uses a D
[03:06] <shreymech> avicom DM9601 driver.... problem might be that ubuntu removed the support for that driver in its latest kernels.. can any one help me with the solution.. thanx
[03:07] <pie> but it said itll only do that or a session
[03:07] <pie> so any ideas?
[03:07] <DasEi> Tao: second, I check it
[03:07] <iBallbag> pie, what is the problem?
[03:07] <mbeierl> nibsa1242: thanks.  looks like network it's got to be ... mobo doesn't appear to support booting from usb ?!?  ah, well... all this for trying to get a backup computer for the kids running again.
[03:08] <Gnea> shreymech: is the adapter plugged into a usb hub or directly into the computer?
[03:08] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: how old is it that it doesn't support usb booting?
[03:08] <DasEi> Tao: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gtg/ppa
[03:09] <shreymech> Gnea, adapter is pluged in to a directly in to the USB in my laptop
[03:09] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: I've seen machines circa 2000 and eariler support usb boot
[03:09] <DasEi> Tao: gksudo  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <thune3> Tao: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gtg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ doesn't seem to have "lucid" branch. I don't see one either for https://launchpad.net/~gtg/+archive/ppa .
[03:09] <Tao> I know
[03:09] <DasEi> Tao: find the "younger" faulty line, delete or comment it
[03:09] <Tao> thun3: I've already checked that :p
[03:09] <mbeierl> nibsa1242: fairly old I guess.  Either that or I just can read the old ami bios options to make it work.  it supports "usb-hdd" and "usb-cd" but I can't seem to get the right option to make it boot from a stick
[03:09] <thune3> Tao: So remove the ppa?
[03:10] <mbeierl> nibsa1242: it's definitely more recent that 2000.
[03:10] <Tao> thune3: I can't find it in the sources list
[03:10] <Gnea> shreymech: do you have a /var/log/dmesg.? file from the failed 2.6.32-24?
[03:10] <maxic> hola
[03:10] <maxic> alguien que hable español?
[03:10] <Gnea> !es | maxic
[03:10] <tensorpudding> !es | maxic
[03:10] <pie> iBallbag: ok so ive had gnome apparently restart on me a few time sor something, but this tiem the screen resolution changed for the worse, and i dunno what the problem is, i restarted my computer but thtat didnt work, then i restarted again and let it go into low graphics mode
[03:11] <hasen> I'm thinking of buying a laptop with an ATI card, are there linux drivers for it?
[03:11] <nibsa1242> mbeierl: its ok, it really just depends on the bios and what the manufacturer thought you'd do with the machine
[03:11] <R350> hello all i have installed ubuntu 10.04, with agp 9600se ati card (r350) connected via dvi2hdmi, the card is supported for proprietary fglrx, however, im getting an issue with the installation procedure, http://pastebin.com/d2Lhjvna is there a fix for it ?
[03:11] <shreymech> Gnea, i don't have it... as my system is not at all detecting my adapter in other lastest kernel...
[03:11] <tensorpudding> hasen: Yes.
[03:11] <pie> iBallbag: now it appears to work but it said low graphics is only for one session, oh and also i ran sudo dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg (i found it in a forum) but that didnt appear to help either
[03:11] <Gnea> hasen: likely, but you'd be better off getting one with a geforce in it
[03:11] <nibsa1242> hasen: which ati card?
[03:11] <tensorpudding> hasen: There are open-source ones
[03:11] <pie> iBallbag: so yeah thats pretty much it
[03:11] <pie> iBallbag: what really pisses me off though is that it closed all the stuff i was working on /
[03:11] <iBallbag> pie, remove all the fancy effects on the desktop.  i had a similar issue earlier
[03:11] <tensorpudding> as well as a proprietary one with acceleration and all that
[03:11] <thune3> Tao: should either be in System->Admin->Software-Sources [Tab Other Software] or you could remove appropriate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.
[03:12] <hasen> not sure, just in general, no specific one yet
[03:12] <Gnea> shreymech: so you're telling me that there are no /var/log/dmesg* files, at all, whatsoever?
[03:12] <pie> iBallbag: fancy effects?
[03:12] <nibsa1242> R350: I don't think that card is going to work for you under fglrx, I know my x800 (which is newer) doesn't because support for older cards were removed from fglrx a few years ago
[03:12] <DasEi> Tao: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:12] <iBallbag> like reflection etc
[03:13] <pie> iBallbag: i never touched any of those so i dont really know what i have to do =/
[03:13] <Tao> DasEi: Alright, done
[03:13] <DasEi> Tao: give  resulting url here, so we can have a look
[03:14] <nibsa1242> Ugh- hard lock during install second time it has locked at 10% configuring language-pack-en-base (and this is a second disk, burned slow, verfied by burner and install program)
[03:14] <Tao> http://pastebin.com/rpPifLyj
[03:14] <iBallbag> pie do you have compiz installed?
[03:14] <pie> iBallbag: only all the default stuff
[03:14] <nibsa1242> I don't think my server likes Ubuntu anymore. At least it doesn't like 10.04 and installing to a software raid-1.
[03:14] <tensorpudding> hasen: generally people dislike the proprietary ati drivers
[03:14] <pie> iBallbag: no fancy desktop managers
[03:14] <dreamer000> kernel panic
[03:15] <DasEi> !who | Tao
[03:15] <R350> nibsa1242: damn, opensource during playback is crappy.....screen-tearing.
[03:15] <Tao> Ah
[03:15] <Tao> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/rpPifLyj
[03:15] <iBallbag> pie, ubuntu 10.04?
[03:15] <hasen> tensorpudding: well all decent video cards' drivers are proprietry
[03:15] <Tao> DasEi: Better?
[03:15] <pie> iBallbag: yeah, i dunno whty i said 9.10 earlier :/
[03:15] <R350> im running vizio razor led 1920x1080
[03:15] <pie> *why
[03:15] <tensorpudding> the intel graphics drivers are not
[03:16] <iBallbag> get compiz settings manager
[03:16] <nibsa1242> R350 you can downgrade to an old distro with an old xserver & old version of flgrx if you really want
[03:16] <pie> iBallbag: and if it changes anythign i think i have the intel x45 video chip or something(yeah, or something =/ )
[03:16] <shreymech> Gnea, i don't have it... as my system is not at all detecting my adapter in other lastest kernel...
[03:16] <DasEi> Tao: yes; I also can't find the ppa in there
[03:16] <shreymech> hi all...!! i am using a USB ethernet interface for wired connection as my ethernet port is gone... my system was detecting my USB-ethernet adapter automatically in my linux-image 2.6.32-22 but later on due to image kernel upgrades to 2.6.32-23 and latest (2.6.32-24) .. these lastest upgrades are not supporting my USB-ethernet adapters.. please help me out.. i am using the adapter in 2.6.32-22 bcz in this version its supporting... my adpater uses a D
[03:16] <shreymech> avicom DM9601 driver.... problem might be that ubuntu removed the support for that driver in its latest kernels.. can any one help me with the solution.. thanx
[03:16] <Tao> DasEi: Thats whats confusing me
[03:17] <tensorpudding> hasen: my laptop uses intel's i915 which is just fine
[03:17] <R350> nibsa1242: does this include all other distros as well ?
[03:17] <DasEi> Tao: did you dist-upgrade this system ?
[03:17] <thune3> Tao: it's a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory
[03:19] <nibsa1242> R350: I think it was an xserver change, in addition the flgrx change. My understanding is that you'd have to use an old distro, with an old kernel, and an old fglrx. Change happened a few years ago. You are just better off upgrading to a more modern card.
[03:19] <DasEi> Tao: I'm by far not aware what gtg is for, but there is a daily build ppa on launchpad which you could (own risk) try to add
[03:19] <Tao>  thune3: Thanks. I do believe I found it
[03:19] <Gnea> shreymech: please keep the chat to here
[03:19] <Gnea> !pastebin | shreymech
[03:19] <Gnea> !pastebinit
[03:20] <DasEi> Tao: http://i8t.de/3cnzk3sx
[03:20] <DavidJHeinrich1> how all, how do I restart the mysql daemon and make sure it starts up when I boot?
[03:20] <dustin> wine! i need big help to connect my blackberry 8130, to the desktop software, but i dont now how wine works,
[03:20] <shreymech> hi all there... http://paste.ubuntu.com/471326/
[03:20] <Gnea> shreymech: everytime your system boots up, it logs everything to /var/log/dmesg, so unless it's been over 5 reboots since you last had the 2.6.32-24 kernel booted up, then I can see why you wouldn't have it
[03:21] <bazhang> dustin, /join #winehq
[03:21] <pie> iBallbag: as the compiz settings manager thing directed at me?
[03:21] <shreymech> Gnea whats the command to open var/log.... its saying permission denied
[03:21] <R350> whats a good agp card to get ?
[03:22] <iBallbag> yes pie
[03:22] <R350> agp
[03:22] <cast> R350: one that works?
[03:22] <cast> R350: one that's low power? one that glows?
[03:22] <Tao> DasEi: That link didn't work
[03:22] <R350> ati or nvidia
[03:23] <DasEi> R350: more a #hardware question, in gnerall nvidia and alo matrox seem to cause less problems
[03:23] <BentFranklin> New Kubuntu 10.4 install at home for fun/learning and some light LAMP action...  Here's what I'm thinking for partitions:  /: 20GB, /boot: 10 GB, /var: 270GB, /home: 600GB, swap:  100GB.  Does anything look too big or too small?
[03:23] <tensorpudding> BentFranklin: 10 GB for /boot?
[03:23] <tensorpudding> that's gigantic
[03:23] <BentFranklin> I have no idea what it's used for, so it's a total guess.
[03:23] <tensorpudding> what do you keep in /boot?
[03:23] <tensorpudding> oh
[03:23] <tensorpudding>  /boot is where the kernel and grub stuff end up
[03:23] <bazhang> BentFranklin, 250MB tops
[03:24] <tensorpudding> it usually remains fixed in size
[03:24] <tensorpudding> well, depending on how many kernels you keep
[03:24] <headkase314> BentFranklin: only 20GB for / ?  What about programs hanging off that like /usr and /bin?  I'm a n00b so I might be missing something.
[03:24] <DavidJHeinrich1> can anyone help me with mysql? I'm trying to set it up for Amarok, but when I type "mysql -u root", I get "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"
[03:24] <DasEi> Tao: sry, the shorter seems corrupt (https?), so full : https://edge.launchpad.net/~invernizzi/+archive/gtg-daily
[03:24] <tensorpudding> if this is a server, /home is going to be very small
[03:25] <tensorpudding> unless you're hosting shell accounts or you have a real user account with a use for that much space
[03:25] <OhK> Hey hve any of you guys tried ubuntu on a PPC?
[03:25] <dustin> bazhang, i did for 2 hours  and i go some help but it calls for command line,and im a big newbie at that i go scared cuz it was telling me to change the sucerity of ubuntu and premissions and stuff . i ask againg and now one said anything,wine  too,
[03:25] <jeremy1536> hey i got a couple questions?
[03:25] <DasEi> Tao: that does (same) : http://tinyurl.com/36mzcve
[03:25] <dustin> ohk, a ppc? whats that?
[03:26] <bazhang> dustin, that's the channel for wine support; be patient
[03:26] <tensorpudding> BentFranklin: 100 GB for swap is never going to be used
[03:26] <Tao> DasEi: I got it. Tinyurl works better, doesn't it :p
[03:26] <OhK> Power PC dustin
[03:26] <DasEi> Tao: I just found the diff of tinyurl and tinyurl.com
[03:26] <dustin> ohk, i dont know what that is but i would like to
[03:26] <bazhang> BentFranklin, perhaps 2-4GB for swap
[03:26] <tensorpudding> I'm surprised Ubuntu still supports PPC
[03:27] <Tao> DasEi: That ppa didn't work
[03:27] <smackmanic> updated ubuntu..rebooted...won't boot the UUID, says it doesn't exist. found a forum post that suggests I edit what grub is booting...but i don't believe i am doing it properly
[03:27] <OhK> dustin, it's an architecture. Not Intel, nor AMD. I think it's exclusive to older model Macs.
[03:27] <DasEi> Tao: so I can't help you much further, as I have no idea what that project is about
[03:27] <user3> #jakarta
[03:27] <madamps> i started installing linux mint from the live cd and its on the "Please Wait - Resizing Partition..." screen. it said it might take a while, but it's been stalled at 0% for about 15 minutes. its not frozen - ie i can use everything else lag-free. is this normal? i know resizing takes a long time, but should i be at least progressing? i'm afraid to cancel and mess stuff up
[03:28] <furythor> is Nvidia Geforce 240 GT supported by proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[03:28] <Tao> DaeEi: Its ok. Thanks for your help so far
[03:28] <tensorpudding> PPC was used predominantly by Apple, until 2006 when Apple switched to x86.
[03:28] <pie> iBallbag: how exactly do i get compiz settings mgr?
[03:28] <bazhang> madamps, join the mint support channel as its not supported here
[03:28] <bazhang> !mintsupport | madamps
[03:28] <BentFranklin> Thanks to all, here's my new plan:  swap: 4 GB, /: 100 GB, /boot: 1GB, /var: 295 GB, /home:600 GB
[03:28] <madamps> bazhang: thanks :)
[03:28] <smackmanic> bazhang: still struggling lol
[03:28] <tensorpudding> that'd be more realistic
[03:29] <madamps> aw bazhang - it's empty. do you guys have any advice>
[03:29] <bazhang> madamps, its on a different network
[03:29] <iBallbag> pie click applications>ubuntu software centre
[03:29] <tensorpudding> though unless you're really serious about webhosting you're not going to use 295 GB on /var
[03:29] <madamps> bazhang do you know the name?
[03:29] <iBallbag> top left
[03:29] <IdleOne> madamps: the mint channel is not on this network
[03:29] <furythor> BentFranklin: why 100 GB for boot?
[03:30] <bazhang> madamps, irc.spotchat.org
[03:30] <madamps> i'm kind of irc-retarded. we are on freenode, right?
[03:30] <smackmanic> bazhang: any suggestions?
[03:30] <Tao> DasEi: I fixed it!
[03:30] <smackmanic> madamps, yah
[03:30] <BentFranklin> Another question:  this is my second install.  On the first I let it use the whole disk for one partition.  Is there some sort of partition magic to repartion at this point?
[03:30] <dludldin> hi everybody!
[03:30] <DasEi> !yay|Tao
[03:30] <BentFranklin> furythor:  It's 1GB now.
[03:30] <IdleOne> madamps: /server irc.spotchat.org   then join #linuxmint-help
[03:30] <bazhang> BentFranklin, 2 to 4 GB for swap, 250MB for /boot  much more for /
[03:31] <OhK> Bent... it would be possible to resize partitions by the Disk Utility in ubuntu
[03:31] <tensorpudding> 100 GB for / is reasonable
[03:31] <madamps> IdleOne - exactly what i wanted. thakns
[03:31] <furythor> BentFranklin: what you mean exactly or what you are trying to get ?
[03:31] <IdleOne> madamps: welcome
[03:31] <tensorpudding> I've not come close to that myself
[03:31] <dustin> bazhang,i did and i stayed for even longer,im just gone  a dead line to met, in 3 weeks, i got to got a source of internet on this computer
[03:31] <bazhang> 100GB for root is huge
[03:31] <crivit> ohhh  droped here
[03:31] <jjgalvez__> for an external drive should I format it as ext2 or ext4? is there any advantage to using ext4 on an external drive?
[03:32] <smackmanic> be right back. I need to take a 2 min breather.
[03:32] <dludldin> my internet often disconnects. i get this message in log files "Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x348d" this happens many times(the protocol isn t always the same)
[03:32] <bazhang> jjgalvez__, shared with windows?
[03:32] <furythor> jjgalvez__: any reason why not ext3 ?
[03:32] <jjgalvez__> bazhang: nope just linux
[03:32] <DasEi> jjgalvez__: want to share it with windows hosts ?
[03:32] <bazhang> jjgalvez__, ext4 then
[03:32] <tensorpudding> jjgalvez__: use ext4 if it's Linux-only
[03:32] <DasEi> ah^
[03:32] <tensorpudding> ext2 is old and lacks journaling
[03:32] <cast> ext4 support is relatively new
[03:32] <bazhang> cast, not really
[03:33] <cast> bazhang: yes, really
[03:33] <jjgalvez__> furythor: no reason, just when I clicked on the drive and selected format I got ext2 and ext4 as options
[03:33] <bazhang> cast, its perfectly fine.
[03:33] <tensorpudding> ext4 is default on most linux installs
[03:33] <tensorpudding> i believe ubuntu is one of those
[03:33] <furythor> jjgalvez__:  that goes interesting, that ext3 is not among options...
[03:33] <cast> tensorpudding: is it?
[03:33] <dustin> jjgalvez__, look for cross format, so you dont need to do it again, if thats not what your thing 'to look back" the right on..
[03:33] <bazhang> cast, perhaps you are thinking of btrfs
[03:33] <DasEi> cast: optinally since jaunty or ibex, jaunty I think
[03:34] <furythor> I have question related to graphics card, does ubuntu 9.10 nvidia proprietary drivers support Geforce 275/285 graphics card ?
[03:34] <cast> bazhang: i am not.
[03:34] <jjgalvez__> so it looks like since I am only using this for linux ext4 is the way to go
[03:34] <dustin> jjgalvez_,i say it cuz theres a 5%-10% chance you'll need windows
[03:34] <bazhang> jjgalvez__, yep
[03:34] <mbeierl> just venting ... know that there's no easy answer: got my old pc, with a windows activation code that refuses to work, but I can boot with the windows xp install disk.  I've got an ubuntu install cd, but it refuses to boot with a cannot read disk error.  I am so lost...
[03:34] <cast> i can understand perhaps you're used to talking to morons, but i'm not one.
[03:34] <Annie> More port questions. ssh from Starbucks. Not port 22 cause it's blocked. Port 8080 let's say. The connection reaches my router. How does the ssh service that listens to port 22 know to listen to port 8080? Isn't port forwarding to have your inbound ports directed to the private ports?
[03:35] <bazhang> cast, that's not appropriate for here
[03:35] <pie> iBallbag: oh hey...i guess i do have compiz...
[03:35] <DasEi> furythor: yes
[03:35] <yoshie> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64Bit  Alien Arena sound not working.
[03:35] <pie> iBallbag: ccsm?
[03:35] <jjgalvez__> dustin: true, but this is going to be used to back up my linux comp, I'll user another drive if i need windoz
[03:36] <furythor> DasEi: so if I get either of those cards I got fully working drivers ?
[03:36] <iBallbag> pie yes
[03:36] <DasEi> Annie: you can tell ssh where to listen to (which port), set in the sshd_config /etc
[03:36] <usacomputertec> hello world
[03:36] <bazhang> !ccsm | pie
[03:36] <aperture> Yo
[03:36] <crivit> cast: bazhang is very uptight
[03:36] <usacomputertec> echo "hello world"
[03:37] <bazhang> crivit, please keep random commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <dludldin> my internet often disconnects. i get this message in log files "Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x348d" this happens many times(the protocol isn t always the same)
[03:37] <cast> bazhang: ext4 is perfectly fine if all boxes that require access can read ext4, i *am* questioning the assertion that most linux hosts have ext4 support
[03:37] <OhK> cast, Freedom of Speech, Open Source speech. Etc, etc.
[03:37] <dustin> casst,  comments like that donest help the commuity grow, which "we" dont get better support,
[03:37] <Annie> DasEi: do you know of a link to a tutorial? I just learned ssh 2 days ago trying to set up a web proxy being I'm leaving the states... And I'm running out of time to finish this set up and don't have a lot of time to learnsometing else
[03:37] <aperture> I'm having some trouble with a built in mic... Is there a support channel I should go to, or can someone here help me out?
[03:37] <DasEi> furythor: yup, certified as their hp says, so yes
[03:37] <pie> iBallbag: so the simple on or the complex one...
[03:37] <tensorpudding> ext4 support has been in the kernel since 2.6.28
[03:37] <crivit> bazhang: that wasnt ramdom at all
[03:38] <DasEi> Annie: no prob, let's go :
[03:38] <bazhang> crivit, offtopic for here. please don't
[03:38] <dustin> <jjgalvez__, ok oh and always  get a 8 gb or more cuz it very easy to fill it up using 2 os
[03:39] <crivit> bazhang: just saying
[03:39] <aperture> ... can anyone at least tell me what channel to go to for support getting this mic to work with Ubuntu?
[03:39] <furythor> DasEi: okay, since I got interesting problem, I got some problems with gf gt240 with 9.10 but my wireless mouse and keyboard work fine, however I don't know if those problems are really serious, or could I install newer driver from nvidia website...
[03:39] <DasEi> Annie: gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:39] <Annie> DasEi: got it
[03:39] <tensorpudding> I guess that means that it isn't supported in Debian Lenny, but Ubuntu has supported it for a few releases now
[03:39] <dustin>  cast,comments like that donest help the commuity grow, which "we" dont get better support,
[03:39] <DasEi> Annie: found it already ?
[03:40] <cast> tensorpudding: great. so ubuntu supports it. 'linux' is a great deal more widespread than ubuntu
[03:40] <iBallbag> pie simple is what i got
[03:40] <Annie> DasEi: was talking to cast, told me about it but on reading more by brain melted
[03:40] <OhK> cast is my favrite person in this room right now.
[03:40] <DasEi> Annie: gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:40] <jjgalvez__> dustin: thansk for the advice
[03:40] <pie> iBallbag: oh well lol too late
[03:40] <OhK> dude you rock
[03:40] <pie> iBallbag: but thanks i hope this fixes it =
[03:40] <DasEi> Annie:set the port there
[03:40] <pie> * =/
[03:41] <dustin>  cast, im very new at all this  i would love to learn lunix, comments like that dont help
[03:41] <DasEi> Annie:also password auth, as I assume, save the file... then..
[03:41] <dustin> jjgalvez__ you well come ;
[03:41] <tensorpudding> This argument might be worthwhile but it's ultimately irrelevant to the original query anyway
[03:41] <Annie> DasEi: argh... sorry DasEi... My proxy server is a mac
[03:41] <OhK> cast, pointing out the fact that there is a linux world outside of ubuntu CERTAINLY helps the community. Thanks.
[03:42] <DasEi> furythor: did you find that card under hardwaredrivers ?
[03:42] <Annie> DasEi: but it looks like I can edit the config file easy enough.
[03:42] <DasEi> Annie: erm, this is ubuntu, but config shall be same
[03:42] <furythor> DasEi: yeah, I got everything working, but I had some issues with 9.10 and when I moved to 10.04 some things were repaired but others appeared to have breaked down
[03:42] <iBallbag> pie, i cant guarantee it
[03:42] <DasEi> Annie: and look for something similar in mac :
[03:43] <DasEi> !info fail2ban
[03:43] <Annie> DasEi: the netbook I'm taking is ubuntu... setting em up together brought me here
[03:43] <furythor> and personally I like more of 9.10 appearance
[03:43] <iBallbag> its worth a shot tho
[03:43] <CARABOBO> a los venezolanos que esten por aqui
[03:44] <bazhang> !es | CARABOBO
[03:44] <nibsa1242> Is there anything terribly bad about fakeraid? I can't seem to get the install to work with software raid, so I'm considering using fakeraid.
[03:44] <CARABOBO> mañana a partir de las 8 de la mañana
[03:44] <cast> don't bother with fail2ban, just don't use retarded passwords, and if you dont like typing passwords more complex than "password", use ssh keys
[03:44] <thune3> dludldin: the only info i found is that the "protocol-reject" indicates an improperly decoded packet. I can only suggest these kewords for search "protocol reject 0x????"
[03:44] <Annie> DasEi: # Port 22.... that line is hashed out because it's default. But if I unhash it and put in 9050-9999, that will make ssh listen to those ports?
[03:44] <DasEi> furythor: in general that cards shouldn't cause trouble, did you run the settings manager afterwards ?(the nvidia one)
[03:44] <crivit> bazhang: so cold the night
[03:44] <CARABOBO> se estara selebrando el aniversrio de ubuntu-ve en maracay
[03:44] <cast> nibsa1242: yeah, it means when you have drama trying to read the disks in other boxes
[03:44] <dustin> jjgalvez__ you well come ;) just watch how fast my adice come into play,  i "eat a half gb a day to a 1 gb, so thats hard to do but, do what my studio does and it very likely
[03:44] <bazhang> !ot > crivit
[03:44] <smackmanic> okay...anyway...i have what appears to be a fairly common problem for people who updated to the latest version....ubuntu does not boot correctly...it sends me to busybox...it basically says my UUID does not exist
[03:44] <furythor> DasEi: yes but there were few weird things, maybe due to problems of my graphics card being that much new one...
[03:44] <CARABOBO> en el municipio Giraldot en el IUTA que queda frente a la CANTV
[03:45] <DasEi> Annie: no sure about syntax in mac, one port or seperated ones should do
[03:45] <nibsa1242> cast: if it were you, and the choice was between fake raid and using another distro, which would you choose?
[03:45] <CARABOBO> asistan les esperamos
[03:45] <smackmanic> from what I've googled, I believe I need to edit the boot in grub...however I believe I am doing that incorrectly..
[03:45] <bazhang> CARABOBO, here is english
[03:45] <bazhang> CARABOBO, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:45] <CARABOBO> sorry
[03:45] <cast> nibsa1242: another distro. but i don't use ubuntu :)
[03:45] <nibsa1242> cast: what do you use?
[03:45] <smackmanic> would note that I'm not using grub2...
[03:46] <smackmanic> boot is currently set to root=  (hd0,4)
[03:46] <smackmanic> i'm so lost
[03:46] <cast> nibsa1242: debian.
[03:46] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> hello im trying to learn howto encrypt a file, i don't fully understand how gpg works, i would only encrypt a rar file but gpg apparently uses public keys? i would like that when i encrypy a file it creates a new one with a new extention and when i double click it it would promt me for a password, but gpg apparently can create private keys that if you format pc and havent back it up, despite you remember password, you still woul
[03:46] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> dnt be able to decrypt file is this true? is there any nice guide for dummies? thanks
[03:46] <jjgalvez__> dustin: Wow, this is for my Mom, but I will definitely keep an eye on it
[03:46] <smackmanic> i tried editing it to sda1, then sda2...both got error 23 if i recall correctly
[03:46] <furythor> what is current support level for Ati Radeon drivers on Ubuntu Linux ?
[03:46] <Annie> DasEi: ok... I'll check on syntax. Just wanna make sure the question I'm gonna ask makes sense first. So something like 22,25-1000... would make sense on that line?
[03:46] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: gpg can use passwords, pass it the -c option,
[03:47] <DasEi> Annie: yesss
[03:47] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, is there any nice gui easy to use?
[03:47] <Annie> DasEi: SWEET
[03:47] <nibsa1242> cast: I've never used debian, is it hard to setup? (my experience is with Mandrake (back when it was called that); Fedora (back when it was Fedora Core); and Ubuntu)
[03:47] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: probably
[03:47] <smackmanic> =/
[03:47] <Annie> DasEi: thanks for your patience. Really needed it
[03:47] <josephseraos> hi.. anyone use irssi client irc
[03:47] <josephseraos> ?
[03:47] <cast> nibsa1242: i find it trivial
[03:47] <cast> josephseraos: yes, most of #irssi
[03:48] <Annie> Love this room!!! It's so nice to come into a chat room and get actual help :D
[03:48] <josephseraos> cast: Ok, but nobody answer me
[03:48] <smackmanic> Annie: ehhhhh sometimes lol
[03:48] <nibsa1242> cast: ok, I'll look into it
[03:48] <DasEi> Annie: there you go, but keep topic here : http://tinyurl.com/2d7xgdn
[03:48] <headkase314> josephseraos: I sometimes use it but an not an expert on irssi
[03:49] <josephseraos> cast: hey, could you say me, how do I change to other channels that I have joined?
[03:49] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone won't work nor does my Internet display the speed it says unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:49] <DasEi> smackmanic: you have probs with grub-legacy ?
[03:49] <Annie> DasEi: awesome! Thanks again.
[03:49] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, to begin with i dont want to send this encrypted files so can gpg just not use that public/private key thing, what does it do btw?
[03:50] <dustin> furythor, "the upgrading bug" i call it (not well known), it happens when you do the same with (9.04 ubuntu to 9.10.) i guess it make it this far ... the best way to get fix that is a clean install of th os your trying to go ofor in the first place
[03:50] <josephseraos> headkase314: I'm just testing... It's can be to some necessity. I'm user GNU/Linux, and I would like to know some softwares for console
[03:50] <josephseraos> understand?
[03:50] <headkase314> josephseraos: Type "man irrsi" in a console for it!
[03:50] <cast> Annie: is that for the sshd_config? thats not a good idea..
[03:50] <crivit> sdfasdfasdfasdf: what are you up to?
[03:50] <josephseraos> headkase314: Great!
[03:50] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, can it just create a .gpg file fully encrypted that could be decrypted in ANY pc with only knowing the secret password?
[03:50] <dron247> Hello all, what happens with russian ubuntu repositories?
[03:50] <Annie> cast: No?
[03:50] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: yes. gpg -c
[03:51] <furythor> dustin: can be, though I think it may have some interesting other reasons causing that problem...
[03:51] <DasEi> cast: we're liitle ot here, she wants to connect her mac and her ubu by ssh
[03:51] <cast> Annie: does sshd support syntax in the form of a range?
[03:51] <josephseraos> it's not installed
[03:51] <josephseraos> man for irssi is not installed
[03:51] <furythor> dustin: like fact that drivers aren't simply "bug free" for my graphics card yet
[03:51] <josephseraos> Sorry my english. I'm brazilian
[03:51] <smackmanic> DasEi: whatever version came with 8.04...basically when i boot up, it doesnt actually boot to ubuntu. doesnt recognize my UUID..found a forum post...says I need to change the boot option in grub...ive tried and I think I'm doing it incorrectly
[03:52] <smackmanic> if that makes sense
[03:52] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> crivit, i would like to encrypt a .tar.gz file to store it safely in my pc, so the idea is that me only knowing certain password or phrase could decrypt it and use those files even if i format pc. problem is apparently kgpg creates some kind of private key that if i dont back up i couldnt decrypt this file even knowing the password in my head, as far as i understand
[03:52] <headkase314> josephseraos: back up plan -> http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[03:52] <dirty_american> no software is bug free :P
[03:53] <furythor> What about geforce 400 series _
[03:53] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the gpg passphrase only unlocks the key, the key is the truly important bit, and that needs to be backed up
[03:53] <dirty_american> nasa may have some..
[03:53] <Joe_CoT> Quick question: is there anyway to get Grub2 to ignore a specific partition? the 30_os_prober successfully finds vista, but also the OEM utility partition, which it also calls Vista. I want grub to ignore the latter.
[03:53] <DasEi> smackmanic: one question forehands, why still hardy ? backup files and get a future-able distro ? else we could fix it by a live cd, but might take longer in view to file backup and fresh install
[03:53] <DasEi> !eol | smackmanic
[03:53] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: it's really quite trivial to use the command line, :)you should learn at some point
[03:53] <edbian> What does it mean if a system cannot get past the file system check during boot?  It drops to a shell consistently at 66%
[03:53] <crivit> sdfasdfasdfasdf: well as long as they know the key
[03:54] <smackmanic> DasEi: I ran an update, however, you must update grub manually. obviously I can't get into ubuntu..so I can't update it
[03:54] <josephseraos> headkase314: where can I find people who wants just talk. just chat?
[03:54] <nibsa1242> cast: alright, I'm done with this install bs... I'm going to try debian instead... Installing to a software raid1 should be trivial not something that takes hours and hours and then hardlocks so you can't even tell why it fails
[03:54] <smackmanic> livecd is not an option right now unfortunately.
[03:54] <edbian> josephseraos, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <DasEi> edbian: fs corrupt, check unmounted by live cd
[03:54] <crivit> edbian: file system check error
[03:54] <DasEi> josephseraos: #defocus
[03:54] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so say i format this pc ok. to be able to extract that tar i would have to put that back up of the key into new kgpg and then decrypt the file, if i didnt have this back up file of the key theres no possible human way i cant decrypt the file again?
[03:54] <edbian> DasEi, Do you mean the check function using gparted??
[03:55] <trumpeet>  :)
[03:55] <DasEi> smackmanic: live cd, see above
[03:55] <DasEi> !grub
[03:55] <smackmanic> DasEi: I found a forum post with essentially my exact error...could I /msg the solution? I believe it will work, only I think I am doing it incorrectly
[03:55] <BentFranklin> So the partition GUI lets me make everything except swap. If I leave 4000 MB unallocated, does it just make that the swap?  Also, does swap count towards my limit of 4 primary partitions?
[03:55] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: without the key, your chances of reading the file again are as good as attacker trying to read your file without your consent
[03:55] <tensorpudding> as any*
[03:55] <smackmanic> lol see above, livecd is not option atm
[03:55] <DasEi> smackmanic: go ahead
[03:55] <edbian> The system drops to a shell, can't I use that instead of booting a live CD ?
[03:56] <tensorpudding> actually much poorer, since you don't have a botnet for cracking AES + RSA
[03:56] <edbian> BentFranklin, Leaving space unallocated will not make it swap.  Swap does count against your 4 primary partitions.  That's a limit caused by the hdd not the OS.
[03:56] <crivit> edbian: what your hdd?
[03:56] <DasEi> edbian: not if the fs can't work on  ,as a superblock could be damaged, need a live for it then to check
[03:57] <edbian> crivit, Could you rephrase that?
[03:57] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, i'm sorry i just don't get it fully, and trust me i've googled a lot and there isn't good clear information, if kgpg creates this private key lets imagine its a .key file (don't know) why then do i have to learn a pass phrase if i have the key + the .gpg file containing my protected tar.gz?
[03:57] <osmario> Hi all. Does anybody know how to sincronize Ipod Classic at Rhythmbox?
[03:57] <crivit> edbian: The system drops to a shell? please explain
[03:58] <DasEi> crivit: the fsck breaks down
[03:58] <smackmanic> DasEi: sent...I hope it was not too long
[03:58] <edbian> DasEi, Does corrupt mean that the hdd is physically broken?  Will this be an easy fix using gparted on a live CD?  It's not actually me fixing it.  It's a friend's computer and he's far away.  I have to explain it to him.
[03:59] <DasEi> smackmanic: no pm arrived, myabe a pastebin ?
[03:59] <edbian> crivit, Yeah, when your hdd fails that built it fs check it drops to a shell.
[03:59] <edbian> crivit, a bash shell
[03:59] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, and what is that attacker thing you mention, i thought gpg was quite good at hiding files, it means someone can download some sort of crack (?) and read my file easily if this person got access to my .gpg?
[03:59] <DasEi> edbian: no, can also be the fact, but mostly it's just the filesystem
[03:59] <smackmanic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html 2nd to last post, not much scrolling
[03:59] <smackmanic> posted by rudihawk
[03:59] <crivit> edbian: ok so what the error message?
[04:00] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:00] <edbian> DasEi, I understand that as: "no" the hard drive is not physically broken.  "can also be the fact" what does that mean??
[04:00] <inktri1> \frac{5}{6}
[04:00] <edbian> crivit, Don't know, haven't seen it myself.
[04:00] <inktri1> \[ \frac{5}{6} \]
[04:00] <inktri1> $\frac{5}{6}$
[04:01] <DasEi> edbian: i can be physically broken, but most time this behaviour is caused by the fs, not the hardware
[04:01] <crivit> edbian: so fsck dosent give you a message?
[04:01] <edbian> crivit, It might.  It's a remote PC.  I don't know.
[04:01] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> uhm apparently he is away could someone please answer me the question i just asked to tensorpudding? , i would really appreaciate it =)
[04:02] <smackmanic> sdfasdfasdfasdf: I wish I could...
[04:02] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the encryption is there so that if someone stole your .tar.gz file, they couldn't read it
[04:02] <crivit> edbian: so fs check it drops to a shell?
[04:02] <hydester> hi.  i am using ./ssh/authorized_keys, and it works fine.  then suddenly i get prompted for my password again.  any idea why or how this would time out?
[04:02] <DasEi> smackmanic: follow the link to restore grub, use a live cd, that will give you all checks; and a agin, newer distro no offer ?
[04:02] <DasEi> !grub
[04:02] <edbian> DasEi, I'm going to tell him to boot Ubuntu (live CD), check the hdd using gparted, and if it doesn't fix the problem I'm going to assume that the HDD is physically broken and advise him to grab the data using the live CD (if he can) and get a new HDD / computer.
[04:02] <smackmanic> DasEi: livecd is not currently an option....
[04:02] <edbian> crivit, Yes.  Have I not already said that?
[04:02] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: by attacker i mean someone who wants to read your .tar.gz file without your consent
[04:02] <DasEi> edbian: oh, not yours, no check by fsck/e2fsck
[04:03] <smackmanic> had it been an option I would have immediately updated grub with it heh
[04:03] <smackmanic> and ran fsck , etc
[04:03] <edbian> DasEi, "Not yours?" what do you mean?
[04:03] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: there are ways to try and break the encryption, but they are effectively useless for the most part
[04:03] <crivit> edbian: well your problem is NOT explained
[04:03] <smackmanic> because I had a hunch that was an issue when I first saw the errors...however livecd is not an option right now...editing grub is
[04:03] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, you mean steal my .gpg  file encrypted containing my tar.gz right? or kgpg doesnt alter the original tar.gz
[04:03] <josephseraos> alô
[04:03] <tensorpudding> RSA encryption is based on certain mathematical properties of large numbers
[04:03] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: that is what i meant, the tar.gz.gpg file
[04:04] <DasEi> edbian: going to tell him ^
[04:04] <smackmanic> heh..so I have the solution for editing grub...I just don't believe I'm editing it correctly
[04:05] <quizme> SunOS z13131AA.textdrive.com 5.11 snv_62 i86pc i386 i86pc  <--- does this mean i'm on Solaris ?
[04:05] <cast> quizme: yes.
[04:05] <cast> quizme: cat /etc/release
[04:05] <meesebyte> This is what I want to do: Install Win7 on MacBook pro, and then install ubuntu. Is there a way yo /just/ use GRUB as the boot menu instead of boot camp?
[04:06] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: so i forgot what your original question was
[04:06] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, not enought words to thank you man, i wish someone wrote this and it got in first google page :D. so to be sure  i fully understood if my hdd broke and i needed to read again this tar.gz i woould have to not only back up in any mediea the tar.gz.gpg file but the .key backup file too and of course remember the pass phrase the .key file is protecting then. Then in my reinstall of ubuntu, i would have to make kgpg re
[04:06] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> ad this backup file and doueble click the tar.gz.gpg? isnt it?
[04:07] <crivit> edbian: if the hdd is broken fully   you wont get any data off it
[04:07] <edbian> crivit, I know.  I'm afraid of that for him.
[04:07] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the GnuPG page has a ton of information about how gpg works
[04:08] <cast> there's a Concepts part to the manual which is nice
[04:09] <cast> but, public key based cryptosystems are non-trivial
[04:09] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: If you wanted to back up your gpg key, you can export the key to a file, save the file somewhere on some backup media, then import the key into gpg when necessary
[04:09] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, ok i'll take a look but what i said right before is right?
[04:09] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:09] <crivit> edbian: for who>?
[04:09] <DasEi> sdfasdfasdfasdf: install signing-party and pgpgpg, then use the man-function, a 10 min task then
[04:09] <edbian> crivit, The friend of mine who's computer this is we're talking about.
[04:09] <cast> you can even print out your key, it takes up about 1/4 of a page, one uses paperkey for that
[04:09] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: if you're afraid of losing the passphrase you can write it down in a file on the backup
[04:10] <josephseraos> hey.. I can't to find. I entered in some channels and I don't know how to change to other channels. I can't to find it on irssi.org
[04:10] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the description of the process you gave is correct
[04:10] <crivit> edbian: put the drive in question in another pc
[04:10] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: like cast said, you can back up the key by printing it out
[04:10] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> DasEi, i think i just learned howto use kgpg hehe.
[04:10] <tensorpudding> it's just a rather long string of random alphanumeric characters
[04:11] <tensorpudding> random-looking*
[04:11] <cast> it turns out the secret part of your key is only a few hundred bits, commonly 200-400 bits,
[04:11] <edbian> Is there a big difference between fsck and e2fsck ??
[04:11] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> woah interesting
[04:11] <EvilPhoenix> whats the CLI command to get the distro info
[04:11] <DasEi> sdfasdfasdfasdf: fine two, just another frontend, but nice to know cmd-line, can use on other OS'es, too then
[04:11] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> can i use stronger protection, i think there is 2048 bits, its this safe enought or theres even more?
[04:11] <tensorpudding> edbian: fsck calls e2fsck I believe
[04:12] <crivit> edbian: haha only light years away
[04:12] <tensorpudding> edbian: you use fsck and it calls the appropriate program to fsck that filesystem
[04:12] <ennui> hey guys, I borked my OSX partition on my dual boot macbook. Trying to use my iPod to boot from as an OSX install DVD. though I don't have disk usage enabled on it.... what are my options? running the windows version of itunes under wine? I can't restart my comp as I won't be able to boot back into linux because I was using rEFIt and I guess that was part of the OSX partition.
[04:12] <edbian> tensorpudding, That's what I thought.  Thanks :)
[04:12] <dustin> hello?
[04:13]  * smackmanic rm -rf ubuntubuggy =(
[04:13] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: I think 1024 bits is considered to be safe on the multi-decade scale at current
[04:13] <tensorpudding> as in, the time it takes to brute-force it will take decades of computer time
[04:13] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: 2048 bit is the size of the finite field you're operating in, with a 2048 bit ELG key your secret keys still only 330 bits, but your public key is 2048*2 and then some
[04:14] <fredwang> occasionally, my firefox freezes for a few seconds when maximized, anyone has an idea?
[04:14] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, wow even with lastest intel processors combined? ok im overreacting here not like if the nasa wanted to read this tar.gz hehe
[04:14] <DasEi> smackmanic: what about my questions ? dist-install / access hd from another system ?
[04:14] <fredwang> anything to do with X
[04:14] <tensorpudding> Apparently 768bit RSA has been broken earlier this year, using 1500 years of computer time
[04:15] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, i see.
[04:15] <tensorpudding> 1500 years in the equivalent of a standard desktop pc
[04:15] <smackmanic> DasEi: currently the only route I can pursue...is either editign grub boot...or doing something with busybox. however...heh...I think busybox may be the most useless shell in the world
[04:15] <cast> the world, is rightfully so, moving away from 1024 bit keys
[04:15] <josephseraos> I got! //window <number>
[04:15] <josephseraos> I got! / /window <number>
[04:15] <tensorpudding> the whole effort involved a massive supercomputer using an integer sieve
[04:15] <dustin> busybox? whats that?
[04:15] <cast> attacking RSA is a bit easier than attacking ELG, for what it's worth
[04:15] <smackmanic> it's a bit frustrating because obviously the solution is there...I'm not doing it properly...
[04:15] <DasEi> smackmanic: considering repairing grub, yes
[04:15] <tensorpudding> 1024 will be safe for a bit yet.
[04:16] <josephseraos> I got! / window <number>
[04:16] <smackmanic> dustin: a shell I hope you never see mate
[04:16] <edbian> DasEi, Thanks for your help! :)
[04:16] <smackmanic> =p
[04:16] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, wow i'm using 2048 then :D
[04:16] <DasEi> dustin: a minimal shell you get dropped to if initramfs fails
[04:16] <DasEi> edbian: fs fixed ?
[04:16] <cast> gpg defaults are now 2048, have been for a while
[04:16] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the resources to break 1024 would be out of the reach of most everyone
[04:16] <edbian> DasEi, No, I sent an email though.
[04:17] <smackmanic> dustin: apparently a lot of people who jumped from 8.04 to the latest version ge to wake up to it...
[04:17] <DasEi> edbian: so I got you right, not your box
[04:17] <dustin> its that like when a pc gets a bluescreenfodeath, and you do theat to reveive it
[04:17] <crivit> edbian: what box you on?
[04:17] <DasEi> smackmanic: huh ? you have the choice of grub2 there, nor ?
[04:17] <edbian> DasEi, You helped me start solving a problem for somebody else.  No offense but I find it very difficult to understand what you're saying.
[04:18] <edbian> crivit, My own.  This box has no problems.  Running Debian :)
[04:18] <tensorpudding> though honestly i don't think you'll ever convince anyone that there is such a thing as too many bits in a private key
[04:18] <cast> sure you will
[04:18] <smackmanic> DasEi: no because I cannot access updates from busybox (there's not even sudo..) and as I've said livecd is -not- an option
[04:18] <edbian> crivit, It's my friends computer that has the problems.  Again, I've said this to you I'm I not making sense?
[04:18] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> i see now i managed to think this: if i encrypt with 2048 bits an already encrypted file in same bits. it woult take  sort of 4096 protection cause it'd take a lot of time to decrypt the 2048 bits to get another 2048 file, hehe double amount of time am i correct?
[04:18] <cast> when it takes too long to use the key :)
[04:18] <tensorpudding> anyone truly paranoid
[04:19] <tensorpudding> cast: techonology advances allow for larger keys as easily as they allow for easier brute forcing
[04:19] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: no.
[04:19] <crivit> edbian:sure you are but I wasnt here later
[04:19] <DasEi> smackmanic: so one more time, backup files and do a fresh install ? any other possibility to hang that hd on working system ?
[04:20] <tensorpudding> even 768 is safe enough in the short term
[04:20] <smackmanic> DasEi: I have the solution though...I just don't understand it
[04:20] <wolfric> can someone tell me what ctrl alt f2 does exactly? it doesn't seem to kill x like i first thought
[04:20] <rodrigo> hi folks
[04:20] <dustin> hi
[04:20] <hrishi> I'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Everytime I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&
[04:20] <tensorpudding> until people who care enough to break your encrypted files have access to computing power equal to 1500 years on average 2010 desktop PC's
[04:20] <cast> tensorpudding: but the rates are not the same :)
[04:20] <[thor]> wolfric: it switches to TTY2
[04:20] <tensorpudding> in a reasonable amount of time
[04:20] <DasEi> wolfric: it opens another tty, ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to desktop
[04:21] <[thor]> wolfric: x is on TTY7
[04:21] <edbian> crivit, Yeah it's another persons computer (laptop) that has fs errors.  I sent him a message instructing him to run fsck on the partiton using a live CD.
[04:21] <cast> tensorpudding: attacks may evolve faster than computing hardware
[04:21] <smackmanic> DasEi: so I believe i should try to see the actual solution out before I go destroying the OS lol
[04:21] <hrishi> I'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Ocassionally when I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&" to get it working. How do I get this resolved permanently?
[04:21] <crivit> edbian: ok MITM heheh
[04:21] <wolfric> i managed to google for the f7 after i had to hard restart the first time :) i'm not too familiar with tty2 or any other number can you give me a general name to look up more on?
[04:21] <wolfric> or a link
[04:22] <edbian> !MITM
[04:22] <edbian> what is MITM ?
[04:22] <cast> tensorpudding: the world is moving to ECC, FWIW, :)
[04:22] <DasEi> maninthemiddle (attack)
[04:22] <tensorpudding> Who is "the world" in this case?
[04:22] <edbian> crivit, What are you talking about??
[04:22] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated or a god watermarking software?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> AES is still the government-issue, is it not?
[04:22] <hydester> hrishi: System->Preference->Appearance->Visual Effects->None
[04:23] <tik> er good not od
[04:23] <crivit> edbian: you are the man in the middle?
[04:23] <tik> god
[04:23] <DasEi> !tty > wolfric
[04:23] <edbian> crivit, I'm not attacking anybody.
[04:23] <tik> ill be in the middle of 2 girls :P
[04:23] <hrishi> hydester: but I want the visual effects of compiz. So I guess it is a bug in compiz then!
[04:23] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: attacking a 2048 bit key is maybe equiv to a 2^100 symmetric key, attacking your doubly encrypted file would be equiv to 2^101, twice as hard.
[04:23] <[thor]> !tty > [thor]
[04:23] <wolfric> dasEi: thanks
[04:23] <dustin> yes patly,cuz of my friend
[04:23] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:23] <callipygous> how do I get the grub bootloader to show up?  I'm trying to do a recovery...
[04:23] <cast> [citation: Mécanismes cryptographiques - Règles et recommandations, Rev. 1.20, FNISA , 01/2010.]
[04:24] <edbian> crivit, Are you joking? :)
[04:24] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:24] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, wow.
[04:24] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:24] <edbian> crivit, Were you joking about the MITM attack?  I'm not angry, just confused :) :)
[04:24] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:24] <deexannihilate> What DVD program is most compatible with PulseAudio? I'm currently using VLC and sometimes it doesn't work.
[04:24] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?
[04:25] <crivit> for the last time
[04:25] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> ow, i gtg thanks all for the help! =)
[04:25] <callipygous> I've tried holding down the shift key, but that doesn't work
[04:25] <DasEi> cast: and then move it to a tc container, the hidden one and move it to a luks partiton.. and store the notebook in a .. tank
[04:25] <hrishi> why doesn't the grub2 menu show after I install ubuntu lucid? I just get a screen with a cursor blinking, then I get the splash screen.
[04:25] <les_> Hey everyone
[04:26] <xangua> deexannihilate: do you have libdvdcss2 installed¿
[04:26] <cast> DasEi: and then watch helplessly as someone breaks in via your use of adobe flash to browse websites!
[04:26] <smackmanic> hrishi: because apparently they wanted to make ubuntu more buggy.
[04:26] <callipygous> I've also tried pressing the esc key... but I still can't get the boot menu to appear
[04:26] <dustin> Tux414, 1st) plug it in to lan (no wifi at all) upated like a mad man , an everything you can update and come back when your done
[04:26] <edbian> crivit, What does MITM stand for then?
[04:26] <hylian> !hi | les_
[04:26] <xangua> hrishi: is will show up when you have more than one OS installed
[04:26] <DasEi> cast:got it !!
[04:26] <callipygous> how do I get in to the grub boot menu?
[04:26] <crivit> edbian: never mind
[04:26] <edbian> crivit, ha ha:) ok
[04:26] <tik> callipygous: are you dual booting?
[04:26] <Tux414> dustin: I have wifi it just doesn't read the speed correctly.
[04:26] <callipygous> tik: no
[04:26] <DasEi> callipygous: left shift (grub2), might have to modify timeout
[04:26] <xangua> callipygous: you keep pressing the Alt key when you start your pc i believe
[04:26] <tik> oh ok
[04:26] <tik> nm
[04:27] <hrishi> smackmanic: Ha, I don't see the point of hiding the menu anyway.
[04:27] <callipygous> alt?
[04:27] <tik> i thoughtit was ESC?
[04:27] <hylian> les_ how can we help you?
[04:27] <hrishi> xangua: oh, but what is the point!
[04:27] <DasEi> tik: grub1 was Esc
[04:27] <tik> o
[04:27] <tik> sry
[04:27] <les_> @hylian I'm new to IRC, so just listening for now, thanks!
[04:27] <crivit> edbian:only trying to help
[04:27] <deexannihilate> xangua: yes. it is installed
[04:27] <smackmanic> hrishi: i think it's just to tick you off
[04:28] <callipygous> ah left shift worked, thanks :)
[04:28] <hylian> les: ok :)
[04:28] <chilli0> If I try: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/media there is no problems. But If i add this to my fstab i get bad fstype. Anyone know why?  /dev/sdb1 /media/media ntfs 0 0
[04:28] <DasEi> callipygous:  modify timeout/spalsh  /etc/default/grub,  update-grub (as root) afterwards
[04:28] <DasEi> callipygous: be fine then
[04:28] <edbian> crivit, Attempt appreciated :)
[04:28] <hrishi> smackmanic: hope they change it in meerkat atleast.
[04:28] <cast> chilli0: you're double posting.
[04:29] <ubuntunoob> ? for any1:  Is there any good online radi streamer for ubuntu?
[04:29] <smackmanic> hrishi: I hope this buggy update didn't eff me over on this OS
[04:29] <smackmanic> ;)
[04:29] <DasEi> chilli0: pastebin the whole fstab line
[04:29] <chilli0> DasEi, I did.
[04:29] <chilli0> Well , that is the whole line.
[04:29] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?
[04:29] <hrishi> :D
[04:29] <chilli0> cast, Because I want help, other chan hadn't offered anything so I asked here.
[04:29] <dustin> Tux414,well try it anyways , i got lucky with a driver for my lappy, that i had been lookin for, and it was in the system bank, newly updated
[04:29] <hylian> chilli0: i know it's best to use the devices number than the /sdb1 bit, but i don't think that should be your problem. did you have to force this to mount in the past?
[04:29] <tik> sorry to bug you guys that was on a timer i disabledit
[04:30] <hrishi> one more query. Why is it that ubuntu lucid is drinking battery power 40% or more when compared to "Windows 7"!!!! for crying out loud
[04:30] <dustin> Tux414,some time later
[04:30] <smackmanic> hrishi: hahahahahahaha I was just about to mention
[04:30] <tik> hrishi: did you set the screen brightness down and set the drive to spin down?
[04:30] <cast> chilli0: but you cant be using *both* operating systems
[04:30] <smackmanic> that apparently lucid doesn't handle CPU very well at all...let lucid stay installed as ur main OS for a year or so
[04:30] <DasEi> chilli0: /dev/sdb1      /media/media ntfs  user,auto 0       0
[04:30] <ubuntunoob> ? for any1:  Is there any good online radio streamer for ubuntu?
[04:30] <smackmanic> it'll eat the graphics card up
[04:31] <chilli0> Thanks DasEi I shall try that now.
[04:31] <DasEi> fore more possib's :
[04:31] <smackmanic> I've seen it happen to five mates so far, ones right now at the point of flickering screen
[04:31] <chilli0> cast, They work in the same way , ubuntu is based of debian.
[04:31] <DasEi> !fstab | chilli0
[04:31] <les_> @ubuntunoob If not, I believe there are Firefox addons
[04:31] <ubuntunoob> ok ty :D
[04:31] <crivit> edbian: hacker talk is problemtic  sorry#
[04:32] <tik> is thi hdrive external?
[04:32] <hrishi> I heard the GPU runs at full speed and that 'might' be the problem? Is this true?
[04:32] <tik> you shouldn't mount external hdrives with fstab
[04:32] <Tux414> dustin: 10.10 it works but on 10.4 it won't work my computer is an acer aspire 3810 TZ.
[04:32] <hrishi> Its mainly a kernel issue I guess as the same effect is present on fedora 13 as well
[04:32] <edbian> crivit, No worries :)
[04:32] <chilli0> DasEi, Seemed to work so far. Thanks.
[04:32] <ennui> does anyone know of a channel dedicated to netbook discussion? I'd like to run a linux distro on a netbook but I was looking for advice as to which model netbook to invest in. was hoping for something powerful enough to playback 1080p mkv files in mplayer
[04:32] <AlbertoP> Uruz: do not ping please
[04:33] <smackmanic> hrishi..'might'........
[04:33] <dustin> Tux414, whats wont again?  did you do my advice?
[04:33] <DasEi> chilli0: np, nice
[04:33] <smackmanic> it'll fry the machine eventually
[04:33] <hrishi> smackmanic: yeah ... thanks to todays cooling techniques, we're saved :D :D
[04:33] <xangua> ennui: netbooks normally are not designed to play HD videos
[04:34] <smackmanic> hrishi: idk...I've seen 5 laptops get fried by lucid so far, personally.
[04:34] <hylian> !fstab
[04:34] <smackmanic> altho they were all dells..so i think it also has soemthing to do with a certain model of dell laptops
[04:34] <crivit> smackmanic: fried???
[04:34] <hrishi> smackmanic: wow! 5 ... this is bad ....
[04:34] <smackmanic> crivit: basically made destroyed the monitor
[04:35] <steph_> Hi , a little trouble with compiz here with lucid,  if i create a shortcut in application at startup with the command "compiz --replace" , after starting a proccess is working in loop and I have my CPU at 34 ~40 % ... if instead I start without this and in a terminal : compiz --replace , I dont have trouble.. any idea?
[04:35] <smackmanic> made the graphics card useless and did some damage to HD
[04:35] <les_> I'm on a Dell with Lucid now, and it works great...inspiron 640m...came with XP
[04:35] <smackmanic> they were all dells...a certain model....I forget which
[04:35] <Tux414> dustin: could you please repeat your advice
[04:35] <smackmanic> les_, right, I don't think it's all dells
[04:35] <smackmanic> I'm using dell myself...an ancient desktop but a dell nonetheless
[04:35] <dustin> go to pm opk?
[04:35] <smackmanic> and I don't have cpu probs
[04:36] <smackmanic> except I don't have enough cpu...=p
[04:36] <ennui> xangua: I know they aren't normally but many new netbooks now have HD resolution screens
[04:36] <giov> What is the  __KDE__ sw that shows the hardware in a system - ex, USB hw info?  There used to be something called KControl in KDE3, but thatś gone.  - Iḿ unable to get connected to #KUbuntu.
[04:36] <hylian> les_ yeah the dell's, especially the dimension models seem to work really well with ubuntu.
[04:36] <les_> I lucked out, as I'm new to Linux, and my first try was on my Dell. If it hadn't gone well, I might not have switched.
[04:37] <smackmanic> les_...I think once I get ubuntu actually running again, I'm going to switch to debian
[04:37] <smackmanic> to be honest.
[04:37] <tik> 99gioz: loa terminal and type lsusb
[04:37] <les_> Why....stability?
[04:37] <xangua> giov: maybe because is not #KUbuntu is #kubuntu
[04:37] <hrishi> smackmanic: is there 'any' solutions for this battery issue ... reducing the brightness and spinning down hard disks is just going around the problem, giving trouble to the user, than solving the problem! :D
[04:37] <xangua> giov: you maybe need to register your nick¿
[04:37] <smackmanic> les_: yeah. everytime we update something in ubuntu something breaks
[04:38] <smackmanic> and ubuntu is terrible at handling the cpu compared to debian
[04:38] <hylian> les_ it also helps that dell seems to like using nvidia hardware. I'm running a self built machine, ubuntu 10.04 amd64 bit edition. runs great.
[04:38] <les_> smackmanic: do you have a lot of stuff installed?
[04:38] <DasEi> giov: for gnome it's gnome-device-manager, maybe search synaptic for kde ?
[04:38] <tik> debian is an old distro ubuntu is virtual new comaired to sum give it time
[04:38] <smackmanic> hrishi: they did that...idk if that actually helped any at all..see...the problem wasn't completely noticeable except the battery was very hot..then the monitor would randomly flicker...
[04:38] <smackmanic> so it sortof sneaks up on you
[04:38] <les_> hylian: good to know
[04:38] <crivit> smackmanic:live cd is not really meant to be updated
[04:39]  * bintut waves
[04:39] <bintut> what is your preferred filesystem when the clients are *nix and windows other than by using samba?
[04:39] <smackmanic> crivit: I'm not even using livecd mate....
[04:39] <edbian> bintut, Windows only supports samba and ftp.  ftp is a security joke.
[04:39] <hrishi> smackmanic: then I guess it still remains a problem! hmmmm......
[04:39] <les_> smackmanic: I'm a newbie, but I've installed on three PC's now several times, and it seems ok until I add other desktop environments
[04:40] <smackmanic> hrishi: I would just google ur laptop model or whatever and CPU and ubuntu to check it out
[04:40] <les_> Such as KDE
[04:40] <smackmanic> les_: I'm usually fine unless I update anything at all
[04:40] <hylian> bintut i personally prefer ext 3 because there are some nice windows programs that can write to ext3.
[04:40] <les_> lol
[04:40] <DasEi> bintut: ext3
[04:40] <smackmanic> anytime I go for an update, ubuntu gives me the finger
[04:41] <furythor> How well Nvidia Geforce 400 series graphics cards are supported in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:41] <smackmanic> hence I waited so long to update...
[04:41] <bintut> edbian: i'm asking for filesystem served or can be accessed over the lan
[04:41] <les_> smackmanic, what kind of system do you have?
[04:41] <jsimmons> should be fine furythor.
[04:41] <bintut> hylian: it should be able to access from the lan
[04:41] <smackmanic> les_: a verrrry old dell dimension
[04:41] <DasEi> furythor: just check the nvidia homepage , and look for the xorg-version postet there, lucid is 1.7.5
[04:41] <tik> anyone know free watemarking software for .avi fes?
[04:41] <tik> files
[04:41] <furythor> jsimmons: So basically if I buy new card, make fresh install etc, it should work flawlessly ?
[04:41] <smackmanic> im surprised my harddrive still works
[04:42] <tik> bintut: samba is your best be
[04:42] <edbian> bintut, yeah, either samba or ftp if you're using windows.  If you're over a lan than the ftp isn't such a horrible idea.  Samba is still much preferred.
[04:42] <tik> t
[04:42] <xDATx> any support yet for macbook pro?
[04:42] <itsux2bu> wow.. i'm new to linux and ubuntu.. also wanted to try out wmplayer too.. found this.. its just what i needed.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/
[04:42] <les_> smackmanic, yes I hear Debian is much better for stability because they update very conservatively. Might work for you.
[04:42] <jsimmons> Should do furythor, you'll have to install the nvidia restricted drivers before you can get 3D acceleration, or even possible full resolution. But yes.
[04:43] <tik> itsux2bu: I recommend sun virtual box it's freeware
[04:43] <smackmanic> les_: lol it doesn't bother me so much except these are common bugs and there seems to be not a lot of help in fixing them
[04:43] <itsux2bu> so is vmplayer
[04:43] <smackmanic> and they don't exactly warn you up front...so most of the time it's a surprise
[04:43] <furythor> jsimmons: yeah I know that, just curious to know that I don't get expensive and useless graphics card for my system
[04:43] <tik> you can create with vmplayer?
[04:43] <DasEi> bintut: samba is most comfort, for throughput rsync and such are better, nas is little faster then samba, too
[04:43] <smackmanic> like..this is a surprise, whats not a surprise? I promise you lucid does not include my sound modules.
[04:43] <skumara> i get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.
[04:43] <dustin> furythor, yes:) i did it (most of the time ) try to install the set up vmware after to test it
[04:43] <hylian> bintut i know that software works locally, i have never used it over a network. technically it should work, but, i can't guarantee it
[04:43] <les_> smackmanic, I know what you mean. I've come to love Linux, but that is one HUGE issue that needs to be overcome.
[04:44] <smackmanic> or w/e we're on these days. I wouldn't know, I rebooted and now it's bunk lol
[04:44] <tik> smackmanic: a lot of cards are supported
[04:44] <tik> thought
[04:44] <tik> what do you have?
[04:44] <furythor> another question, AMD Phenom II x4 cpus work also on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:44] <hylian> i stumbled upon a version of android for pc, im gonna check it out. im hoping it wil make a nice little os for a kiosk type set up, mostly for my nephews.
[04:44] <dustin> furythor, no 100% sucussed but if you do then you saved your self alot of time and moving files
[04:44] <tik> you can tr some different models and see if they work for it
[04:44] <DasEi> furythor: yesss
[04:44] <jsimmons> they will work fine furythor.
[04:45] <les_> My download is finished. Going now, so I can try out Mint KDE on my wife's laptop
[04:45] <itsux2bu> starting with vmplayer v3 you can "create" vm's
[04:45] <les_> Good night, all!
[04:45] <tik> les: njo
[04:45] <tik> y
[04:45] <hylian> !bye | les_
[04:45] <tik> oh.. din't know that
[04:45] <DasEi> itsux2bu: pmm you ?
[04:46] <hylian> i don't know why i made ubottu say bye...
[04:46] <steph_> any one has met a compiz startup trouble after upgrading from karmic to lucid?
[04:46] <smackmanic> sorry had a phone call
[04:46] <furythor> okay, I may be getting upgrade for my computer so I would not need to "sulk" my slow'mo computer in Assembly10 ... *grin*
[04:46] <skumara> i get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.
[04:47] <DasEi> itsux2bu: may I pm you ?
[04:47] <furythor> anyhow I am off, it is 6:45 here and I gotta get some sleep...
[04:47] <tik> smackmanic: what card do you have for audio? you can try it under a different model
[04:47] <itsux2bu> DasEi yes
[04:47] <asdfasdfasdf> it's me again in dolphin when i right click the tar.gz i want to encrypt with kgpg it only gives me the option to encrypt it using a publick key :S, how could i create a private key? the generate options create two both public and private,i'm not intending to distribute my encrypted file and much less make it available publicly so what do you suggest?
[04:48] <xDATx> How different is it to go from Ubuntu to Debian?
[04:48] <smackmanic> tik: it's a creative sb live card
[04:48] <tik> creative sound be covered
[04:48] <tik> hd on
[04:48] <tik> hold
[04:48] <smackmanic> xDATx: not very much difference IMO, I use debian off and on, with another machine
[04:48] <steph_> the repository xDaTx
[04:48] <xDATx> I am halfwayu through Linux-Tutorial.info
[04:48] <hylian> "We want to get rid of laptop-mode-tools. We want to make pm-utils the
[04:48] <hylian> single point of implementing power management features."
[04:48] <xDATx> want to get my linux + by the end of October
[04:48] <smackmanic> it is just as friendly as ubuntu...quite a bit more stable
[04:49] <smackmanic> but if ubuntu works, let it work I say
[04:49] <bdrum_> I am getting a hard lock at logout (keyboard unresponsive, need to hard boot) - I am thinking GDM is at fault.  I checked the logs but can't see anything particular.  Any ideas of next step?
[04:49] <tik> what is /etc/modprobe.d/asla-base.conf say ?
[04:49] <tik> is/does
[04:49] <dustin> steph_,i think.. what is compiz again?
[04:49] <cast> asla/alsa ;)
[04:49] <xDATx> Where I work the LAN engineers are pushing me to use Slackware but it is too crude for my taste.
[04:50] <xDATx> You have to do everything so manually.
[04:50] <smackmanic> xDATx: I will say this, one thing for me that's an issue....ubuntu devs will literally alter code on some programs so they wont import mp3s (yes, this is true. i've inquired canonical about it.)
[04:50] <edbian> xDATx, Debian is older.  You'll notice that right away.  Using them is pretty much the same.  Debian gets out of your way a little more I think.  Once you've moved in to the distro though there is almost no difference besides the release cycle.
[04:50] <smackmanic> such as a DAW program.
[04:50] <cast> xDATx: they're "LAN" engineers. tell them to sod off
[04:51] <xDATx> smackmanic, edbian ok cool thanks
[04:51] <xDATx> I'll give it a try
[04:51] <crivit> xDATx: debian will keep you onyour toes
[04:51] <edbian> xDATx, How anybody could stand using a distro without a package manager is beyond me.
[04:51] <smackmanic> tik sorry I didn't see your question.ummm, gee, I'd love to tell you, except ubuntu won't boot right now.
[04:51] <xDATx> how about updates are they as current at Ubuntu?
[04:51] <steph_> dustin , with karmic , compiz was launched at start , with the comand "compiz --replace" in the menu application at startup , but with this way after starting , my cpu is working at 30% with a proccess in loop , if i dont use this command at startup menu , but instead , the command compiz -replace in a terminal , then all is ok
[04:51] <hylian> edbian if im not mistaked debian comes with apt-get.
[04:51] <cast> edbian: and how it became the number 1 OS like that is also beyond me!
[04:51] <smackmanic> whenever I get some help on a simple grub issue I will be sure to letcha know mate
[04:51] <edbian> hylian, I was talking about slackware
[04:52] <edbian> cast, ha ha :)
[04:52] <smackmanic> edbian, .debs are very friendly..
[04:52] <hylian> edbian im totally with you there.
[04:52] <crivit> cast: it was around long before others!!!
[04:52] <cast> oh, we aren't talking about windows?
[04:52] <cast> for what its worth, slackware and debian are quite similar in age
[04:52] <smackmanic> altho it's def nice to have a gui and click click...and have everything together so you can go to the terminal and just sudo apt
[04:52] <tik> oh ok
[04:52] <smackmanic> but..eh
[04:52] <tik> smackmanic: oh ok
[04:52] <DasEi> !latest | xDATx
[04:53] <tik> smackmanic:put in a live cd and mount the partition :P
[04:53] <smackmanic> tik: :)
[04:53] <hylian> i can't wrap my head around debian's website. so many packages. i want something that says, oh you want this this and this. not, ohh, here's a million possible packages, and you figure it out.
[04:53] <DasEi> xDATx: you can, on your own risk, add newer repos for things you want/need
[04:53] <tik> smackmanic: why won't it boot?
[04:53] <smackmanic> haha for the dozenth time..livecd not an option..i have the solution! I'm too stupid to do it without a walkthru! hahaha
[04:53] <crivit> cast: age... but not usability
[04:53] <xDATx> updates are very frequent I noticed in Ubuntu. Including kernel updates whats up with that?
[04:53] <tik> maybe I can help
[04:53] <crivit> cast: age... but not usability
[04:53] <smackmanic> mate I can send you a link...the fix is fairly simple, I'm just doing something wrong
[04:53] <smackmanic> something is 'off
[04:53] <smackmanic> 'off'
[04:54] <edbian> hylian, I know, 23 CD's the first time I saw that I was like what the hell?
[04:54] <tik> url me to the location of theworkaround
[04:54] <DasEi> hylian: google perfect desktop
[04:54] <tik> and ill PM you
[04:54] <cast> hylian: damn that choice.
[04:54] <cast> debian having a lot of software packaged for it is *not* an argument against it.
[04:55] <xDATx> I am on a D620 latitude so I don't really have any hardware issues. Everything works out of the box.
[04:55] <tik> anyone know of simple watermarking software? even colsole im game
[04:55] <cast> if it were, then the distros without package management would be winning
[04:55] <tik> DA: same with an asus laptop
[04:55] <bintut> thanks guys for your suggestion
[04:55] <hylian> cast i like choice, and i like direction. a city like los angeles and no road map = chaotic.
[04:56] <BentFranklin> Ubu is calling my SATA drive a SCSI.  That's ok right?
[04:56] <cast> hylian: pose a hypothetical software selection problem and i'll pose a hypothetical solution
[04:56] <bintut> actually, i was waiting for someone who will be suggesting sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc.. but no one able to mention it as i already explicitly except for samba
[04:56] <cast> BentFranklin: yes.
[04:56] <edbian> bintut, Those don't work with windows.
[04:56] <UltraParadigm> Anyone know if there is a Shared Linking Library for Qt to run Qt apps?
[04:57] <smackmanic> tik: sorry mate, am using windows and java..you know how that goes...
[04:57] <smackmanic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html scroll to the bottom, 2nd to last post
[04:57] <hylian> cast maybe you can help me then. i have an interest in debian, i want to start with a functional gui desktop os. where in debian.org do i begin?
[04:58] <cast> hylian: during the debian install, you had the option to select 'tasks', one of them was 'desktop environment', it was ticked by default in the installer
[04:58] <smackmanic> yah
[04:58] <crivit> cast: yeah
[04:58] <DasEi> hylian: #debian is there , ubuntu is debian based and most popular, for general linux quests, join #linux
[04:58] <BentFranklin> My first install crashed in the installer.  The traceback mentioned something called ubituity a lot.  I was installing from the Live CD.  I'm installing straight from the CD now.  I hope that works.
[04:58] <bdrum_> does anyone know the best way to completely disable GDM in ubuntu?
[04:59] <shiv> minitube: finally everything works but the video colors are so different with different hues. How do I fix this?
[04:59] <cast> hylian: if you installed via a more exotic method, such as debootstrap, or a .tar, you can run tasksel manually, or, better imho, aptitude install gnome xorg
[04:59] <hylian> cast but that requires more bandwidth than i have. i download iso's from my library and then use them at home. i need something i can have totally ready and available without reconnecting to the net and downloading for 7 hours before i get everything installed. debian should make a ubuntu-ish desktop cd with most used software ready to go.
[04:59] <smackmanic> hylian: it really is much friendly than you'd think..just you have to get used to not using synaptic and such. that's my opinion. I use it for sound editing because as I said, ubuntu devs took it upon themselves to edit software so that id have to import a 300mb wav sample while I have 5 VSTi's open and CPU maxin out
[04:59] <smackmanic> ;)
[04:59] <bazhang> hylian, cast #debian please
[05:00] <cast> hylian: if you get the first debian dvd, it will contain all you need for a graphical desktop
[05:00] <bazhang> cast, ?
[05:00] <smackmanic> cast: no competition
[05:00] <bintut> edbian: they actually work, well.. out of the box as you need to enable or install something for windows will be able to access the "shared" folder that sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc. filesystems served on the linux server
[05:00] <smackmanic> let's be Microsoft. no debian talk! even though we're based on it
[05:00] <hylian> bazhang, thanx you are right this is a discussion for another channel, and thank you cast for the info
[05:00] <smackmanic> bwaha
[05:01] <crivit> cast: the first DVD will set you up
[05:01] <cast> yeah...you're right bazhang, what was i thinking :) why would i want hylian using debian!
[05:01] <crivit> cast: the first debian* #DVD will set you up
[05:01] <hylian> LOL
[05:01] <smackmanic> cast, i know. soooo stupid!
[05:01] <hylian> cast ;)
[05:01] <asdfasdfasdf> cast why do kgpg creates a public key by default, dont i need only a private key if im not intending to distribute the file?
[05:02] <hylian> but ubuntu is only debian "ish", LOL.
[05:02] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: most people want a public key, so it does it by default
[05:02] <smackmanic> nah uh
[05:02] <smackmanic> debian is ish
[05:02] <smackmanic> ubuntu is bug
[05:02] <fitoria> smackmanic, troll
[05:02] <smackmanic> fitoria: doubtful
[05:03] <crivit> SO TO METION DEBIAN IS TROLING?
[05:03] <crivit> how sad
[05:03] <fitoria> crivit, not at all
[05:03] <bazhang> crivit, its offtopic and lose the caps
[05:03] <smackmanic> I've been coming here for 2 days trying to get help editing grub properly because there is a bug in the ubuntu update. as you can imagine, it's been a bit stressful mate. just a bit.
[05:04] <hylian> ubuntu might be considered a "bug" by some of the more pure debian people, but i think it's the os that's gonna have a chance at taking any real marketspace away from MS.
[05:04] <smackmanic> hylian: it def already has, for sure
[05:04] <crivit> smackmanic: well unless ubuntu has fixed it   you wont get any help!
[05:05] <DasEi> smackmanic: 3 people gave you same advices, and also you don't anwer questions clear, that might be a issue
[05:05] <smackmanic> just like MS took market from MAC...not exactly a win win
[05:05] <bazhang> !ot
[05:05] <DasEi> :)
[05:05] <crivit> hehe
[05:05] <smackmanic> DasEi: I specifically said livecd is not an option. I requested -very- specific help on the grub boot option lol
[05:05] <Gnea> !attitude | crivit
[05:05] <hylian> smackmanic, are you still having grub problems? does grub not load when you install? i had that problem because i am using both an ati drive and a sata drive
[05:05] <smackmanic> you have my EXACT error msgs verbatim on the forum posts.
[05:06] <smackmanic> hylian: grub loads, ubuntu won't boot
[05:06] <crivit> stop spaming  ubuntu bot
[05:06] <Gnea> smackmanic: is there a url for that?
[05:06] <smackmanic> I need to edit the boot...but it's been a bit since I've messed with this machine, I've no idea what I'm doing, I tried editing a few times, I'm sure I'm doing it wrong
[05:06] <hylian> ati drive, i yiy yiy, eidi.
[05:06] <DasEi> smackmanic: and from busybox this won't be done, so either hook the cd to another sys or consider backup/fresh install
[05:06] <smackmanic> DasEi: why are you dodging my grub edit LOL
[05:07] <smackmanic> Gnea: certainly. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html
[05:07] <smackmanic> notice it's the ubuntu forums. telling me how to fix it.
[05:07] <hylian> smackmanic is it giving you an error, what exactly is it doing?
[05:07] <smackmanic> hylian: when you jump from 8.04 to the latest ver it messes with your boot options. some weird bug that they haven't taken out
[05:08] <smackmanic> won't recognize the UUID (ubuntu is pretty uuid-centric, which makes it hard for me to understand how to fix the boot)
[05:08] <Random832> smackmanic: just fix it to use the /dev - there's only like two places
[05:08] <smackmanic> and the 2nd to last post has the fix
[05:09] <smackmanic> Random832: right, I believe I'm typing it wrong, though.
[05:09] <Random832> [assuming that you don't have the scsi/usb situation that amkes the uuids necessary]
[05:09] <hylian> smackmanic this should not happen, but i have seen it one time before (don't ask me how) but the uuid changed when i went from ubu 6 to ubu 8.
[05:09] <smackmanic> that's what I've been trying to get help with...I believe I'm editing the boot incorrectly
[05:09] <Gnea> smackmanic: oh WOW, that's quite a problem..
[05:09] <Random832> smackmanic: what are you doing?
[05:09] <itsux2bu> current version of ubuntu?  or most stable version is?
[05:10] <smackmanic> hylian: yeah..seems to be a jump update bug, reccurring, just like me sound modules ;)
[05:10] <hylian> smackmanic have another os you can check the uuid with?
[05:10] <DasEi> smackmanic: see my last comment, from that state can use a manual root (e inn grub), but won't access anything else
[05:10] <smackmanic> not exactly hylian
[05:10] <smackmanic> DasEi: hold on
[05:10] <hylian> smackmanic what happens when you use the generic drive "name" instead, like /dev/sdb1/ ?
[05:11] <chilli0> DasEi, Hey , what you said didn't work =S
[05:11] <smackmanic> DasEi: are you saying e grub is completely useless?
[05:11] <chilli0> ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument @DasEi
[05:11] <DasEi> smackmanic: you're currently talking froma box , which os ? usb stick around ?
[05:11] <smackmanic> hylian, i get errors...i think i'm just doing something incorrectly tho
[05:11] <smackmanic> sigh
[05:11] <smackmanic> a box
[05:12] <DasEi> smackmanic: no, it's not, you can pass the location of /boot there
[05:12] <administrador> hola
[05:12] <hylian> smackmanic maybe fstab is screwed up? i had that problem before. an ugly fix is to boot from the ubuntu cd and then copy over the cd's fstab. but it works.
[05:12] <smackmanic> DasEi....okay then...which is what the post is about...
[05:13] <smackmanic> hylian: right, the issue is that this machine does not have enough space for the livecd nor do I have blanks atm
[05:13] <smackmanic> the easiest route would be to CORRECT the boot info and then perm fix it all once ur actually in ubuntu
[05:13] <Random832> what errors? in grub or after?
[05:13] <smackmanic> Random832: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html there ya go mate, have a gander, it's fun to read
[05:13] <hylian> smackmanic, dang. heh, if i was ther i would you damn small linux, cause once it's booted you can remove the cd. lol.
[05:14] <smackmanic> but no, after grub
[05:14] <smackmanic> hylian, lol DSL ftw
[05:14] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, what's the problem you're having?
[05:14] <DasEi> chilli0: did you set a dir /media/media  and owned it to regular user ?
[05:14] <hylian> smackmanic i dont know waht ftw means.
[05:14] <smackmanic> I just want to fix my grub boot options...I'm obviously too stupid to correctly edit it though, I'm either formatting it wrong or something is just 'off'
[05:14] <smackmanic> hylian: for the win.
[05:14] <cwillu_at_work> can't mount the root device or something like that?
[05:15] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: see link.
[05:15] <smackmanic> nope
[05:15] <smackmanic> nothing seems to mount
[05:15] <Random832> ok, what edits are you trying to make to the grub conf exactly? you didn't answer before
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> do you know what /dev device it usually is?
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> /dev/sda1 or something like that?
[05:15] <Random832> as in, _what_ exactly did you replace with _what_
[05:15] <chilli0> DasEi, I'm checking that now.
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> can you boot it from the grub prompt if you edit it from hand at the actual prompt?
[05:15] <administrador> HOLA ALGUIEN HABLA ESPANOL
[05:16] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: I know on this machine ubuntu was installed second. it's a dual boot with windows
[05:16] <DasEi> !es | administrador
[05:16] <smackmanic> so I have to assume sda2, but I could be completely wrong
[05:16] <chilli0> DasEi, Ehhh. It's owned to : 0
[05:16] <Random832> smackmanic: uh... is there a way to check? boot the livecd?
[05:16] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: I'm trying to do that, if I understand you correctly
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, I have to run right away, but if you're still around in an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee we can get it fixed
[05:16] <Random832> [actually, fstab _should_ say in a comment]
[05:16] <smackmanic> again, livecd is NOT an option atm
[05:16] <smackmanic> lol
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, do you know if you're running grub 1 or 2?
[05:16] <smackmanic> 1
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> (1.97 or whatever counts as 2)
[05:17] <Random832> smackmanic: well, how _are_ you getting in to edit the conf?
[05:17] <smackmanic> im below 2 for sure
[05:17] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R ('$user') /media/media
[05:17] <Random832> i'm confused now
[05:17] <smackmanic> im just pressing e when im on grub
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, are you around in a couple hours?
[05:17] <smackmanic> editing it
[05:17] <smackmanic> then pressing b
[05:17] <hylian> smackmanic i am assuming you tried restoring grub?
[05:17] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: at this rate, eys
[05:17] <smackmanic> *yes
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, try variations of root=/dev/sda2
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> rather than root=UUID=asdfasdfasdfas
[05:17] <smackmanic> hylian: nah uh, I can't update or install anything in this shape..
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> step through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
[05:18] <Random832> and try different drives, too - sda5 maybe
[05:18] <Random832> if you don't know
[05:18] <itsux2bu> whats  ubuntu server?  is that with a webpage server built-in?  like taking a ubuntu desktop distro and something like apache server and fusing the 2 together?
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> if it doesn't work by five, give up until I get back :p
[05:18] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R $USER /media/media ,wrong os ^
[05:18] <smackmanic> i tried 1 and 2....im not even messing with the UUIDs
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, if you're still in channel, I'll send you a pm
[05:18] <smackmanic> I will say that it automatically goes back to (hd0,4)
[05:18] <chilli0> DasEi, kay. Wont work right now =P I dont have sudo set up.
[05:18] <DasEi> itsux2bu: it's another flavor of ubu, server-orientated
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> editing it from there isn't permanent
[05:19] <smackmanic> which I'm not sure wth is going on there, i thought it should say 0,0
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, you've been able to boot it though?
[05:19] <itsux2bu> cost money?
[05:19] <smackmanic> cwillu...get those errors and get sent to busybox shell
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> okay
[05:19] <smackmanic> so depends on how ya wanna look at it
[05:19] <DasEi> !who | itsux2bu: nope
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> 0,4 corresponds to /dev/sda5 (a = 0, 4 = 5 (counting from 1 instead of 0)
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> okay, I'll be back in a bit :)
[05:19] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: so mayue 5 then, eh?
[05:20] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, can't hurt to try
[05:20] <DasEi> chilli0: how's that ? see man visudo
[05:20] <smackmanic> maybe 5 shall be our lucky number
[05:20] <smackmanic> hylian: I have a question you could probably answer
[05:20] <chilli0> DasEi, Got it now. But still not happening. I tried sudo mount -a
[05:20] <DasEi> chilli0: how did you edit fstab then ?
[05:20] <smackmanic> it's about the formatting of the boot option
[05:20] <itsux2bu> ubottu, if i download ubuntu server.. can i install apache on it?
[05:20] <chilli0> DasEi,  Logged in as root.
[05:21] <itsux2bu> ubottu oh sry
[05:21] <chilli0> DasEi, Still get , ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument
[05:21] <DasEi> chilli0: shouldn't do it , give regular user sudo-access
[05:22] <chilli0> Yeah I just did.
[05:22] <DasEi> chilli0: paste fstab line again ? ntfs-3g installed ?
[05:22] <smackmanic> bleh I'll wing it, but I swear I'm formatting the option wrong....but maybe not
[05:22] <adalal> hey, I have a weird problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago
[05:22] <smackmanic> brb
[05:22] <hylian> smackmainc i was trying to dig up a bit of code for grub i found this: /sbin/grub-install --recheck /dev/hda. this sometimes helps. what was your question
[05:22] <chilli0> DasEi, I did install ntfs-3g yeah. http://pastebin.com/7kcUprpQ
[05:23] <Anvoid> i upgraded to a newer kernel, 2.6.35, from 2.6.33. now both my monitor can't be detected using the Monitor manager. is there a way to fix this? if not, how could i revert back to my old kernel 2.6.33?
[05:23] <DasEi> chilli0: that's not the line I gave you..
[05:23] <adalal> anvoid, you can select the older kernel in grub
[05:23] <adalal> and then delete it
[05:23] <chilli0> DasEi,  O= Some one else said to change it after  my bad.
[05:24] <adalal> Anvoid: or rather, apt-get delete the new kernel
[05:24] <DasEi> chilli0: /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 0
[05:25] <chilli0> DasEi, Win so far.
[05:25] <chilli0> DasEi, Nop =P Cant open that dir now. ( media/media
[05:25] <Anvoid> adalal: E: Invalid operation delete
[05:26] <adalal> Anvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove
[05:26] <chilli0> Perm's changed owner magicly.
[05:26] <DasEi> chilli0: regular username ?
[05:26] <chilli0> media
[05:26] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R NameHere /media/media
[05:27] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R media  /media/media
[05:27] <chilli0> Yeah that will work. But if I reboot?
[05:27] <adalal> Anvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove <insert kernel image, kernel headers if installed, and all things related to the .35 kernel>
[05:27] <DasEi> chilli0: it stays
[05:27] <DasEi> and automounts
[05:27] <the_fool> hello everyone trying to watch a movie with the family, but I just found out that plugging in speakers to the lap-top doesn't actually do anything, sound still comes through the laptop I did a quick google search, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know a quick fix? thanks.
[05:27] <chilli0> Oh call.
[05:27] <adalal> hey, I have got a problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago
[05:27] <chilli0> Cool *
[05:27] <adalal> the_fool: do you have padevchooser installed?
[05:27] <UltraParadigm> How can I add something to my PATH?
[05:27] <ridin> how do i uninstall fonts
[05:28] <the_fool> adalal, give me one sec I'll check
[05:28] <NemesisD> what is the general command line way to set up a bash script to run at startup
[05:28] <DasEi> the_fool: or try pavucontrol
[05:28] <the_fool> adalal, no I'll install it now
[05:28] <adalal> oh yeah, pavucontrol..
[05:28] <ridin> !fonts
[05:29] <adalal> the_fool: dont worry, just start up pavucontrol.. go to output devices, and choose the headphone port
[05:29] <UltraParadigm> !ubottu PATH
[05:29] <adalal> the_fool: headphone would instanteously work for me to, until the last upgrade
[05:29] <DasEi> NemesisD: either generate a script in /etc/init or call it in rc.local (cronjob another option) depends on desired task
[05:29] <smackmanic> anywho. getting error 23 parsing errors on all sd's...i read earlier on the ubuntu site itself actually that grub might throw these errors and others if it weren't run as root.. DasEi mentioned it'd have to already be root considered im editing it..but i am suspicious
[05:29] <hylian_> sorry running android from virtualbox locked up ubuntu, lol.
[05:29] <UltraParadigm> !ubottu path
[05:30] <smackmanic> it's either I'm formatting the strings wrong, (possible) or grub on boot is not root. I'm not familair with grub, so that could be complete rubbish...
[05:30] <the_fool> adalal, k about to try it, hope it works thanks a bunch :)
[05:30] <hylian_> smackmanic actually i read something on it, i thin the command to allow it to run as root is/was chroot /mnt/drive (drive neing like, sda1, etc) but dont quote me on that
[05:30] <Anvoid> adalal: the kernel i'm removing is the one i'm currently running on. if i remove it, will ubuntu revert back to another version automatically or will my system become unstable?
[05:30] <smackmanic> i might even be into rm -rf this thing but hey can't get to /home to backup anything ! lol
[05:31] <adalal> Anvoid: it will become unstable..
[05:31] <DasEi> smackmanic: one last time: in your current state, initramfs drops you to busybox, so any checks necessary won't work from there, so first find a suitable way to acces the fs on the hd
[05:31] <smackmanic> hylian_...I'll google it
[05:31] <cijuc> anyone having bandwidth limited with usb modem connections
[05:31] <adalal> Anvoid: you need to be on a different kernel (ideally, the one that's working properly)
[05:31] <chilli0> DasEi, Sweet as. That seems to have mounted fine and all good. Only thing now is samba not playing nicely with it. path=/media/media/Movies
[05:31] <cijuc> the modem gives around 200KBps on windows
[05:31] <smackmanic> DasEi: yeah...which is why I said earlier, busybox is not so useful IMO
[05:31] <the_fool> adalal, now there's no sound...
[05:32] <adalal> the_fool: even with the headphones?
[05:32] <cijuc> but on ubuntu lucid, its max is around 54KBps
[05:32] <smackmanic> here's a shell, now go boot in livecd. haha
[05:32] <adalal> the_fool: what are the ports present?
[05:32] <thune3> Anvoid: you have 2.6.32/33 old kernel still installed? also (maybe run "sudo update-grub") if it didn't get automatically run after uninstalling 2.6.36
[05:32] <ThePlaneskeeper> I have a server using a 1GB Compact Flash card as the main HDD, with most of the content for the server (IE: var/ folders) on an external HDD (there is logic to this madness).  The 1GB card has become too small (after 4+ years of exceptional service), so now i have a 4GB card, is it possible to just use a command (on a secondary PC running ubuntu with 2 card readers) to transfer everything to the new card, without doing a 
[05:32] <UltraParadigm> Is there a command to show/modify the $PATH?
[05:33] <the_fool> adalal, analog headphone and analog otput
[05:33] <the_fool> output*
[05:33] <adalal> do you get sound on the headphones in output?
[05:33] <hylian_> smackmanic anything i can do from here, besides wave my magic wand? i feel for you man, having been in the little or no resources without a paddle boat before.
[05:33] <adalal> the_fool: do you get sound on the headphone on the output port?
[05:34] <DasEi> chilli0: you speak about smb.conf ?
[05:34] <the_fool> adalal, no before I would get sound through laptop even when speakers are plugged in. now I picked analog headphones and when speaker is plugged in I get no sound at all, don't know if this is a step in the right or wrong direction : /
[05:34] <smackmanic> hylian_: bleh I'm just googling this root grub stuff...I had a big suspicious that i needed to do root myself
[05:34] <chilli0> DasEi, This is the part of the file for samba. http://pastebin.com/VzAQP323
[05:34] <smackmanic> but i'd be told twice by someone here that of course grub automatically is root.eh
[05:34] <chilli0> DasEi, Yeah I do =O
[05:34] <adalal> the_fool: no no, what I meant is that did you get sound on the headphones and the speakers on the output mode?
[05:34] <hylian_> smackmanic ohh yeah, in order to use chroot, you have to be root, true. he he, oops
[05:35] <adalal> the_fool: or just the speakers, and not the headphones?
[05:35] <the_fool> adalal, oh, just laptop
[05:35] <hylian_> smackmanic but you are not signed in as grub though.
[05:35] <adalal> the_fool: go on the terminal, and go to alsa_mixer
[05:35] <adalal> wait
[05:35] <smackmanic> hylian_: I'm just so unfamiliar with grub...gotta figure out a way to ensure i'm root when editing grub so i can rule out the errors being bogus
[05:36] <hylian_> smackmanic i could request a cd for you, LOL.
[05:36] <DasEi> chilli0: no blanks guest = ...,  and the subdir Movies exist ? not movies or sth ?
[05:36] <adalal> the_fool: hit 'alsamixer' (w/o the quotes)
[05:36] <smackmanic> because that was the first thing I read on ubuntuhowto guide for grub (yes, I read all of this before asking questions.)
[05:36] <adalal> the_fool: and keep pavucontrol up on the side as well
[05:36] <smackmanic> hylian_, nah, I could get a disk..I'm just trying to fix it in less than a month
[05:36] <hylian_> smackmanic so what happens if you try to sudo su?
[05:36] <chilli0> DasEi, Yeah Movies does exist. I want anyone be able to access that so guest = everyone?
[05:36] <smackmanic> well I have not tried sudo or su in grub cmd line
[05:37] <smackmanic> but busybox does have not sudo or su
[05:37] <smackmanic> *does not
[05:37] <the_fool> adalal, ok got both up
[05:37] <smackmanic> it's actually quite a lazybox
[05:37] <adalal> the_fool: what are the levels in the alsamixer?
[05:37] <timon> sudo makes you superuser
[05:37] <timon> su is used to switch user
[05:37] <smackmanic> timon: I am aware
[05:37] <hylian_> smackmanic busybox? i thought that was another distro, arent you trying to fix a ubuntu grub install?
[05:37] <DasEi> chilli0: guest ok = yes   to guest ok=yes      , and         cd && cd /media/media/Movies            (??/home/media/media/media/Movies!!) works ?
[05:37]  * maco thinks sudo should be aliased to simonsays
[05:38] <teage> Cant watch movie DVDs anymore. Im running Lucid and my movie player starts then suddenly stops. Any help would be greatly helpful.
[05:38] <smackmanic> hylian_: busybox is apparrently what comes up when everything fails
[05:38] <timon> So why you asking?
[05:38] <smackmanic> I'm not entirely should how it's  helpful, because even the busybox defenders tell me to get a livecd.
[05:38] <hylian_> smackmanic hmm, interesting.
[05:38] <the_fool> adalal,  master: 90, headphone: 100  pcm: 99  other 3: 0
[05:38] <DasEi> teage: start vlc from trml,  message error output
[05:38] <BentFranklin> On the brand new installed desktop there's a rectangle called Desktop Folder.  I accidentally X'd it away and can't get it back.  But I can still put icons and files on the background window.  So, what doe Desktop Folder do for me and do I need / should I want it back?
[05:38] <digital_nite> exit
[05:39] <smackmanic> but I appreciate ubuntu not including fsck with busybox. must've slipped their minds when they edited it out of the standard busybox package lol
[05:39] <teage> K DasEi
[05:39] <adalal> the_fool: each time you switch the port on pavucontrol, those levels switch as well... I suggest you try and manipulate some of the levels on alsamixer, esp. the headphone, pcm and other
[05:40] <adalal> the_fool: literally configure the volumes for each port
[05:40] <the_fool> adalal, k i'll check it out, thanks a ton for the support :)
[05:40] <chilli0> DasEi,   cd && cd /media/media/Movies            works fine yes. I think its somethign to do with the perms on the files. Because I have another folder that I'm sharing and the same settings work fine.
[05:40] <hylian_> smackmanic uuis mismatches are way more common than i had come to believe. this might be your problem.
[05:40] <smackmanic> I'll be right back. I need to smoke a nasty cigarette so I can concentrate on reading all this grub info
[05:40] <smackmanic> hylian_: before ubuntu i'd never even seen UUIDs used like this..
[05:41] <DasEi> chilli0: so if no security concerns hinder you, chown the whole /media/media to user media again
[05:41] <smackmanic> so i'm completely unfam with how that all works
[05:41] <chilli0> Shall do.
[05:41] <erik14213us> hi
[05:41] <smackmanic> brb
[05:41] <chilli0> DasEi, In progress.
[05:41] <teage> vlc starts right up in terminal yet when i try playing the DVD this is my output,  main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
[05:41] <erik14213us> did ubuntu 10.04 fix the karmaic video problem
[05:41] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:42] <smackmanic> glad i didnt get up from sit just yet
[05:42] <hylian_> smackmanic i prefer them, if you have more than one drive like me, and they are mismatches, ubuntu has a terrible habit of turning a sda1 on one boot to a sdb1 on the next, and then ubuntu says it cant mount sda1 because it doesnt exist. uuid stops this, my personal beast.
[05:42] <erik14213us> i tried 9.10
[05:42] <ridin> ok, the sound settings are gone from the panel, how do i add it back
[05:42] <smackmanic> hylian_: ah
[05:42] <erik14213us> an the screen would go black during start up an go no further
[05:43] <hylian_> !uuid
[05:43] <smackmanic> lemme smoke!!!
[05:43] <smackmanic> ahhhhh
[05:43] <smackmanic> =p
[05:43] <ridin> well, what's the command for the sound
[05:43]  * smackmanic is away for the next 5 to 7 mins
[05:43] <erik14213us> im using computer with intel onboard video
[05:43] <hylian_> smackmanic go have a puff and clear your head
[05:43] <ridin> well, what's the command for the sound panel to appear, gnome-sound-indicator-applet?
[05:44] <erik14213us> does anyone know if the start up problem was fixed
[05:44] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: if you get a black screen after grub, reboot and press the shift key then F6 select the first line and add "i915.modeset=0" to the grub after "quiet splash"
[05:44] <erik14213us> anyone here
[05:45] <DasEi> teage : from vlc forums could be a broken disc, did you try to put the video-ts to desktop and play it directly ?
[05:45] <erik14213us> i thought 10.04 fixed that
[05:45] <Guest373> any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?
[05:46] <erik14213us> i have no idea on editing grub
[05:46] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[05:46] <erik14213us> i thought in 10.04
[05:46] <teage> the disc works fine on my windows machine DasEi. I suspect codecs
[05:46] <erik14213us> the issue would be fixed
[05:46] <DasEi> teage: from the way you asked I assume libdvdcss2 was installed previously, anyway vlc is dvd-able in default
[05:46] <cijuc> where could i get help on net connectivity/bandwidth debugging
[05:47] <erik14213us> its ok
[05:47] <erik14213us> ill reinstall 9.04
[05:47] <DasEi> teage: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:47] <teage> Could be something to with my upgrade too. just recently upgraded from karmic
[05:47] <simbad> Hi after changing the theme color gnome frozed and i had to alt+print+k after that i cannot login to gnome. Im in xterm session now plese help
[05:47] <erik14213us> its sad ubuntu never fixed that issue
[05:48] <Guest373> any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?
[05:48] <chilli0> DasEi,  Almost got It. I can now get into the folder and all after chowing the file ( on the client I can open /Movies and see all of the files) But I dont have any permitions to open the file.
[05:48] <smackmanic> nasty addiction. give me a min to read thru some grub info
[05:49] <erik14213us> i guess ubuntu do stupid
[05:49] <ridin> how do i get the sound icon back in the panel?
[05:49] <DasEi> teage: http://pastebin.com/hrd2pQbt
[05:49] <hylian_> smackmanic i think this is kind of a similar problem, and might help you solve your problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/dropped-into-busybox-shell-after-modifying-install-597774/
[05:49] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: I gave you the work around/fix, if you have any more ubuntu problems state them otherwise please use the off topic channel
[05:49] <administrator_> hello
[05:49] <DasEi> chilli0: user media exist on the remote box ?
[05:50] <erik14213us> ubuntu 9.04 aint for newbies
[05:50] <smackmanic> hylian_: I think I may have read that last nite but I will check it out. by the way 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.'
[05:50] <hylian_> erik14213us hey man are you having trouble editing your grub file?
[05:50] <erik14213us> 10.04 aint for newbies
[05:50] <smackmanic> would this mean my second partition is actually hd0,1...?
[05:50] <erik14213us> yes im newbie to all this
[05:51] <DasEi> teage: sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu libdvdcss2
[05:51] <chilli0> DasEi, On the client?
[05:51] <DasEi> chilli0: yes
[05:51] <hylian_> erik14213us linux is not for newbies. but thats why this chat exists, and there are so many forums, so that your status of newbie quickly vanishes.
[05:51] <chilli0> No.
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: so create it , sudo adduser media
[05:52] <erik14213us> i just thought the issue would be fixed
[05:52] <erik14213us> in new releases
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: a more dirty way is to make the files world-readable
[05:52] <chilli0> DasEi,  I don't want to have to do that. I am doing this whole thing for a lot of clients , windows , ubuntu , and mac clients.
[05:52] <chilli0> DasEi,  That way sounds best.
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: your coice
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> ridin, assuming 10.04 - right click / add to panel / indicator applet
[05:53] <hylian_> erik14213us here is a nice help guide for making additions to grub: http://www.ehow.com/how_2251661_edit-grub-menu-ubuntu.html
[05:53] <chilli0> DasEi, How can I do the second option?
[05:53] <smackmanic> hylian_ 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.' would mean my 2nd partition is hd0,1..or am i reading that wrong
[05:53] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chmod 777 /media/media/Movies/someFile.avi
[05:53] <chilli0> for each and every file?
[05:53] <smackmanic> currently its set to 0,4...that may have been me or it may be a bug or it may be correct
[05:53] <chilli0> Nooooot going to happen =P ( over 400 files there)
[05:54] <erik14213us> ok
[05:54] <ridin> ZykoticK9, there mail icon is there, so it seems i already have the indicator applet
[05:54] <h2oup> hey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers
[05:54] <chilli0> DasEi, Wouldn't I just have to change the perm's of guest? Because I'm logging in as guest via samba.
[05:54] <erik14213us> is ubuntu going to fix this
[05:54] <erik14213us> in later releases
[05:54] <smackmanic> erik14213us: ;)
[05:54] <magnesium> Is there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?
[05:54] <hylian_> smackmanic i think thats right.
[05:55] <simbad> my gnome-seesion uses 100% of cpu and doesent start the desktop. can someone help me please
[05:55] <DasEi> chilli0: keep in mind this is a security risk, you can also do it for all
[05:55] <cjs> chilli0 try chmod 777 *.avi
[05:55] <smackmanic> erik14213us: I'm sure compiz will be improved greatly for sure. but my guess for you, not anytime soon
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> ridin, if you see mail that is correct.  did you try to uninstall pulse audio or something?  how did you loose it?
[05:55] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/media/Movies/
[05:55] <hylian_> erik14213us i dont know, but you can report this as a bug, although it might already exist as a bug...
[05:55] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i don't know
[05:55] <smackmanic> hylian_: coincidentally, -this- is reported as bug...and was moved over to questions
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> ridin, is audio working?
[05:56] <erik14213us> it seems there programmers are to stupid to fix it
[05:56] <erik14213us> sorry
[05:56] <chilli0> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/schoolassignmentavi': Operation not supported
[05:56] <jfcaron> If I have a tar.gz (or tar.bz2) archive, is there a way to "untar" it while leaving the files inside compressed with gz (or bz2)?
[05:56] <ridin> ZykoticK9, yep perfectly
[05:56] <hylian_> erik14213us it may be that by fixing your bug they open a whole other can of worms, i don't know.
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, if that is on a FAT/NTFS it won't understand linux permissions.
[05:57] <chilli0> It's NTFS however its mounted under ntfs-3g
[05:57] <MaRk-I> hylian_: stop feeding the troll
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> hmm - this driving me nutes
[05:57] <erik14213us> so linux themn aint for older hardware
[05:57] <erik14213us> ubuntu i meant
[05:57] <Derragon> jfcaron, Considering that the .tar.gz is an archive, you have to decompress the whole thing. If there are compresed files within that, it should not uncompress them automatically.
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> ridin, does "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" show as installed?
[05:57] <hylian_> smackmanic have you ever seen ubuntu's #1 bug? :) it's ms windows. they say the fix is to install ubuntu ;)
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> any ideas?
[05:57] <picard1421> anyone know anything about pam face authentication im having a problem wiith the KDM plugin???
[05:57] <smackmanic> hylian_: grant you this, ubuntu over windows ANY day
[05:57] <erik14213us> if u got to in an edit grub
[05:57] <fbencosme> hi
[05:57] <DasEi> chilli0: no, once samba let's you acces and list the dir, these are the local permissions then, errm smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 777
[05:58] <hylian_> Mark-I who is thr troll, im just trying to be friendly/helpfull, sorry
[05:58] <jfcaron> Derragon: So I'll have to tar -xzf the archive, then gzip the individual files after that?
[05:58] <smackmanic> even though ubuntu completely screws me over on audio....in ways that it has control over, not an issue of needing to catch up
[05:58] <smackmanic> i still dig it
[05:58] <fbencosme> I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[05:58] <sweetpi> chilli0: 777 is world _writable_, you know this?
[05:58] <chilli0> sweetpi, Yes.
[05:58] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i see "Installed: (none)" so i assume i don't have it
[05:58] <Derragon> jfcaron, That seems right, yes. The compressed files have just been put into an archive so you don't have to download them all separately, most likely.
[05:58] <hylian_> smackmanic i had to use 8.04 till 2 months ago. no support for my ati x1300. i finally went nividia.
[05:58] <picard1421> anybody know anyhting about pam face authentication
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> ridin, install it then ;)
[05:59] <chilli0> DasEi,  sudo smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 777     create Perm dened
[05:59] <smackmanic> hylian_: right...i just made the jump from 8.04..ALTHOUGH grub is actually listing it as 8.04 still..
[05:59] <jfcaron> Derragon: Ok thanks.
[05:59] <Derragon> s
[05:59] <fbencosme> somebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[05:59] <Derragon> jfcaron, No problem.
[05:59] <smackmanic> will worry about that when i get there lol
[06:00] <Derragon> smackmanic, Updating Ubuntu only updates the actual files, not the entry listed in the GRUB Bootloader.
[06:00] <fbencosme> somebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[06:00] <picard1421> how do you messsage someone in IRC
[06:00] <Derragon> smackmanic, Running grub-update should fix that, though.
[06:00] <h2oup> hey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers but not windows
[06:00] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?
[06:00] <ridin> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d4adH2CA
[06:00] <toolbear> picard1421: "/msg <nickname> ..."
[06:00] <hylian_> derragon smackmanic is stuck in busybox because it wont boot fully. grub errors.
[06:01] <DasEi> chilli0: got to restart samba ofter (saved) changes of it's conf.. I'm  off in some time now, smb.conf is self explanatory, and has better and safer ways, too, also see
[06:01] <DasEi> !samba
[06:01] <magnesium> Is there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> ridin, looks like you have a broken package.  try running "sudo apt-get -f install" and see if it helps.
[06:01] <smackmanic> heh
[06:01] <DasEi> chilli0: I wouldn't recommend SWAT, as it tends to complicate things
[06:01] <chilli0> Ohok.
[06:02] <hylian_> smackmanic thats why if it's at all significant (more than one release) i do a fresh install. to many bugs in gapped distro updates
[06:02] <smackmanic> well, Derragon, that is usual info I was wondering, thanks
[06:02] <Derragon> hylian, What I'm thinking is that GRUB is still trying to load the old kernel, etc. He'd have to update GRUB with all of the information for the current version of Ubuntu, or do a fres reinstall.
[06:02] <smackmanic> hylian_, my other...ubuntu...updates so nicely
[06:02] <ridin> ZykoticK9, just sudo apt-get -f install?
[06:02] <MaRk-I> hylian_: hey dont worry, just that we offered help and instead of trying they just rant and cry
[06:02] <smackmanic> =(
[06:02] <timon> anyone here familiar with the use of awk command.
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> ridin, yup "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:02] <toolbear> say, would someone be able to offer their interpretation of this (chroot problem) http://paste.linuxassist.net/215387 ?
[06:03] <hylian_> MaRk-I: understood, thanx.
[06:03] <smackmanic> what Im thinking is I have 3 different forum posts with the same fix that doesnt require updating grub just yet
[06:03] <chilli0> DasEi,  So basicly I have to change the perms of the files to 777?
[06:03] <smackmanic> however grub update is manual in ubuntu, so even so, i would update..reboot..grub needs to be updated but grub won't boot anything...so that actually makes no sense to me
[06:03] <magnesium> no one here uses RAID?
[06:04] <toolbear> magnesium: no, who'd bother with that?
[06:04] <smackmanic> right now I'm just trying to collect what I need for the next dive.... i guesss hd0,4 needds to be hd0,1
[06:04] <magnesium> toolbear:  Well me, I'm setting up a server for my department.
[06:04] <smackmanic> now i just need to figure out how to make absolutely sure im root using grub so that I'll know the error msgs arent bogus
[06:04] <smackmanic> all about ruling things out
[06:04] <ridin> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/MTSDm5zL
[06:04] <magnesium> Planning on installing Ubuntu Server to a 15,000 rpm SCSI drive
[06:04] <hylian_> smackmanic this is totally not the right way to fix this, but, can you uninstall via apt-get and reinstall grub?
[06:05] <magnesium> and then setting up a RAID 5 array with 4 250 GB drives
[06:05] <Derragon> smackmanic, You should have some form of GRUB's emergency command-line called grub-rescue. Do you get anything like that?
[06:05] <smackmanic> hylian_ not without livecd/usb
[06:05] <toolbear> magnesium: ah, thanks. i've always wondered why people used raid
[06:05] <smackmanic> unless im mistaken
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> ridin, doesn't show any broken packages!  try "sudo apt-get install indicator-sound" again
[06:05] <smackmanic> Derragon, you're the first person who's  mentioned that to me
[06:06] <Speiros> I don't seem to be able to initialise a twin pack cd game on my system.  I am using Ubuntu 10.0.4, and don't know how to install once the prompt comes for the second cd.
[06:06] <hylian_> smackmanic i think Derragon is onto something
[06:06] <smackmanic> im willing to give it a go before i start randomly trying to fix teh boot options again
[06:06] <Derragon> smackmanic, I'm not sure if your GRUB was updated to GRUB2, so, you might or might not have grub-rescue. It's a command line built into GRUB if it fails.
[06:06] <magnesium> toolbear: Yeah, It's going to be for ftp and lamp, so I'm letting the OS run from the 15000 rpm drive and then people can put all their crap on the RAID array.
[06:06] <ridin> ZykoticK9: indicator-applet is already the newest version.
[06:06] <smackmanic> grub is updated manually in ubuntu
[06:06] <smackmanic> the updates do not update grub
[06:07] <fangcheng> a
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> ridin, indicator-applet or indicator-sound?
[06:07] <Derragon> smackmanic, Considering that you are unable to boot, I would assume that GRUB still has a way to fix itself. Or, you can reinstall GRUB to the hard drive via the Live USB/CD.
[06:07] <fangcheng> hello
[06:07] <smackmanic> so I don't know what ver exactly I have, but I'm positive it's not 2
[06:07] <ridin> ZykoticK9, the sound icon that comes with indicator applet
[06:07] <hylian_> i love how all the grub fixes listed online assume you have a ubuntu cd lying around.
[06:07] <Derragon> smackmanic, The GRUB installer is built onto all Ubuntu distributions (as far as I know), so you should be able to just reinstall GRUB via that CD/USB.
[06:07] <smackmanic> hylian_: yah like busybox is so helpful too
[06:07] <tripelb> the daily show videos quit working.  chrome audio keeps ditching. what a keen system. the project that never ends.
[06:07] <jerald> hello guys.. can you help me how can I change my screen resolution to 1920×1200
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> ridin, i thought you said indicator-sound wasn't installed on your system.
[06:08] <magnesium> so no one else here has a RAID array?
[06:08] <dustin> waitt!!
[06:08] <tripelb> jrald I've been trying to get help on that for weeks
[06:08] <dustin>  do do nothin
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> ridin, "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" should show an installed version
[06:08] <Speiros> hylian: What system do you know of that doesn't require it like so?
[06:08] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i said the sound-icon wasn't appearing when i added the indicator applet
[06:08] <smackmanic> Derragon, so basically the older grub doesnt have the emergency/rescue line
[06:08] <vhyzi> a
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> ridin, "Installed: 0.2.3-0ubuntu1"
[06:08] <dustin> recover line when you reboot?
[06:08] <Derragon> smackmanic, As far as I know, no. However since you are online I assume you are able to make a live CD/USB.
[06:08] <hylian_> how do you fix grub without a live cd?
[06:09] <MaRk-I> !raid
[06:09] <jerald> tripelb,  hahaha.. so any luck?
[06:09] <Derragon> hylian_, unless you have another version of Ubuntu or something installed on the same computer, as far as I know... you can't.
[06:09] <ridin> ZykoticK9:   Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.2.3-0ubuntu1
[06:09] <Lym> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick is really confusing, im doing the bottom part where you do it all manually and it just says "Next, you open up the ISO file and extract the files in casper directory. The size (and possibly manifest) are needed if you want to install from the USB drive otherwise the install will error out." but doesn't specify where to put the files, what they mean necessarily by extracting,
[06:09] <Lym> etc
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> ridin, right it's NOT installed on your system - just install it.
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> ridin, good luck.
[06:09] <smackmanic> Derragon: you'd be wrong but I understand the assumption. I would also assume it for someone else.
[06:10] <chilli0> DasEi, How can I samba to give guest access to read , write , list , delete and everything?
[06:10] <magnesium> thx MaRk-I
[06:10] <ridin> ZykoticK9, it says i have broken packages just like the first pastebin, i mean exactly
[06:10] <smackmanic> the issue is that i have at least 3 posts I've found that list the same fix
[06:10] <jerald> did anyone already know how to change screen reslolution
[06:10] <hylian_> Derragon thanks. thats too bad. smackmanic doesnt have a live cd.
[06:10] <MaRk-I> Lym: why dont you try with unetbootin instead?
[06:10] <aaaa> hi all
[06:10] <smackmanic> I believe I'm just doing it wrong
[06:10] <aaaa> chown -R myusername folder
[06:10] <aaaa> it says permsision denied
[06:10] <aaaa> why?
[06:10] <smackmanic> so I need to figure grub out basically.....guess we're gonna go with hd0,1 instead of 0,4
[06:10] <MaRk-I> magnesium: yw and sorry I dont use raid :P
[06:10] <Derragon> smackmanic, Have you considered putting the hard drive containing the affected installation into another computer and fixing it fmo th
[06:11] <BentFranklin> what is the apt command to show all packages I have already installed?
[06:11] <smackmanic> ........
[06:11] <jerald> guys.. I want a 1920×1200 resolution in my netbook
[06:11] <Derragon> smackmanic, Damn this netbook... fixing it from a computer you are able to boot to?
[06:11] <bazhang> BentFranklin, dpkg -l
[06:11] <aaaa> hello?
[06:11] <Lym> MaRk-I, i dont know what that is and the connection im on is PAINFULLY slow
[06:11] <smackmanic> Derragon: if i had another machine around here....
[06:11] <magnesium> MaRk-I:  Yeah most people don't :P I've gotten used to emptyness when asking about it
[06:11] <smackmanic> I'd hook up the ethernet cable
[06:11] <dustin> smackmanic, do you have flash drivers?
[06:11] <smackmanic> and download the liveusb.
[06:11] <smackmanic> heh
[06:11] <MaRk-I> Lym: but you already have the .iso dont you?
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> ridin, can you install libido-0.1-0
[06:11] <giov> What do I need to install into a basic KUbuntu system to make & make install a wifi driver, regarding Kernel source? - anyone have a url with info on that? thanks
[06:12] <smackmanic> so no live, no testy on other machine
[06:12] <Derragon> smackmanic, I am confused... how are you online?
[06:12] <hylian_> smackmanic, i think you have grub, not grub 2. you should boot into grub rescue, not busybox...
[06:12] <Lym> MaRk-I, yes
[06:12] <smackmanic> just grub boot editing
[06:12] <MaRk-I> !unetbootin | Lym
[06:12] <dustin>  usb flash drives?
[06:12] <smackmanic> windows, i have a partition on this machine
[06:12] <Speiros> Is there a chat page that is more specific to my needs?
[06:12] <ridin> ZykoticK9: libido-0.1-0 is already the newest version. libido-0.1-0 set to manually installed.
[06:12] <Mr_Sonoma> giov: you building from source code? if so sudo apt-get install buildessential
[06:12] <antonio_> hey all
[06:12] <bazhang> giov, unlikely you will need to compile it; at worst you would need to install the linux-backports-modules
[06:12] <smackmanic> Derragon: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html 2nd to last post is the fix
[06:13] <Derragon> smackmanic, Install Linux on your machine via Wubi installer, then use that linux install (which is virtual) to fix GRUB on that machine./
[06:13] <magnesium> hey antonio_
[06:13] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?
[06:13] <MaRk-I> Lym: you're on windows at the moment?
[06:13] <Mr_Sonoma> !hi | antonio_
[06:13] <smackmanic> I'm jsut trying to figure out what boot option I'm messing up...and also if grub is actually in root
[06:13] <giov> Mr_Sonoma: Iḿ following the instructins here:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=244215 , and
[06:13] <cozone1952> hi could someone tell me how to put in the password in SU comand when ido i get permission denied  help please
[06:13] <Lym> MaRk-I, no im using 9.10
[06:13] <antonio_> I'm trying to make a backup of some folders on my lappy...to an ext hd.  Some files copied over, but a majority of them didn't.  I think it has something to do with the permissions on the drive.  I've tried a sudo naut to change the permissions of the drive...but its a no go
[06:13] <hylian_> smackmanic can you get into windows? this is quite backwards, but with the ubuntu image and virtualbox, you can actually repair some things. ive done it before
[06:13] <smackmanic> Derragon: I don't have the space on here otherwise I'd get the liveusb on here.
[06:13] <bazhang> giov, thats for fedora
[06:13] <giov> and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455649
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> ridin, sorry man - i'm not sure what's up with your system, but it looks like it has something to do with that libido...  whatever that is.  sorry man, i have no idea - hope someone else has something for ya ;)  good luck man.
[06:13] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i did xfce4-volumed which i have but nothing seemed to happen
[06:13] <smackmanic> I think there is a misunderstanding
[06:14] <smackmanic> I have a usb stick that could be used. I -dont- have the space.
[06:14] <Mr_Sonoma> cozone1952: use sudo, there is no root
[06:14] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i know there's a command to hide/show the icon, but i can't seem to remember it
[06:14] <smackmanic> and literally cannot uninstall enough to clear out
[06:14] <MaRk-I> Lym: just d/l the linux version  make it executable http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <Mr_Sonoma> !sudo | cozone1952
[06:14] <Derragon> smackmanic, Man... I really don't see how you got yourself into that situation lol. But now I realize that, since GRUB is just pointing itself to the wrong partition/HDD. xD\
[06:14] <ridin> ZykoticK9, but thanks anyways :p
[06:14] <cozone1952> ok thanks
[06:14] <ridin> hmm, brb
[06:14] <antonio_> anyone have any idea how I can change the permissions on this ext drive?
[06:14] <smackmanic> Derragon: yah... so it's a guessing game... do you know how I go root with grub?
[06:14] <MaRk-I> Lym: actually they have a .deb just download it
[06:15] <hylian_> why is menu.lst blank? i wanted to edit my grub, but it's blank?
[06:15] <tik> sudo chmod -R user:user *
[06:15] <smackmanic> i have a window open reading about grub and its prolly there but i have all this scrollback to read too
[06:15] <bazhang> hylian_, what version of ubuntu
[06:15] <Derragon> smackmanic, GRUB isn't attached to Ubuntu, so you don't need to be root. All you do is have to do is set the root.
[06:15] <hylian_> bazhang 10,04
[06:15] <bazhang> hylian_, its not there. check the grub2 wiki
[06:15] <Derragon> smackmanic, Which is, as far as I know, either your second or third partition. /dev/sda2 (or 3)
[06:15] <bazhang> !grub2 | hylian_
[06:16] <smackmanic> Derragon: okay. well, basically i read that if its not, then the error msgs I get can be bogus
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, i'm not sure if this is going to help you or not BUT: you don't change permissions on drives, you change them on filesystem/mount points.
[06:16] <smackmanic> so I don't know which ones are bogus yet
[06:16] <hylian_> bazhang, thanks, i guess thinkgs change faster than im usual on this os, will do ;)
[06:16] <dustin> smackmanic,do you have a copy of the iso? and which one is it 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:16] <smackmanic> which makes the guessing game useless
[06:16] <antonio_> zykotick9: can you tell me how to do that?
[06:16] <smackmanic> dustin, no iso talks, please. heh
[06:16] <cozone1952> thanks Mr_sonoma
[06:16] <smackmanic> lemme read the scrollback
[06:16] <smackmanic> my head is spinning
[06:16] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, you can try setting whatever has 'root=' in it to 'root=/dev/sda2 or 3. At this point, it's a guessing game.
[06:16] <aaaa> Derragon:
[06:17] <aaaa> hwo do i change chown?
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, where is it mounted?  type "mount" in a terminal if you aren't sure.  and are you sure it's EXT and not VFAT/NTFS?
[06:17] <aaaa> i can't do that
[06:17] <aaaa> permission denied
[06:17] <tik> did you sudo first?
[06:17] <minhthong> how to install open office?
[06:17] <Derragon> aaaa, He's not in Ubuntu. He's trying to boot into Ubuntu, which means he doesn't need to have permission.
[06:17] <hylian_> aaaa, change chown? do you mean how do i use chown to change permissions?
[06:17] <antonio_> it might not be ext zykotick9:
[06:17] <bazhang> mint, which version of ubuntu
[06:17] <minhthong> I have download openoffice already. But i don't know how tu install it
[06:18] <tik> sudo chown -R user:user *
[06:18] <Derragon> minhthing, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org\
[06:18] <bazhang> err sorry mint minhthong which version of ubuntu
[06:18] <aaaa> drwxrwsr-x  18 areshkin gekcogrp     879 Jun 19 19:11 pubs_src
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, "mount" would show you.  if it's not ext i can't help...
[06:18] <tik> where user:user is your login
[06:18] <aaaa> hey hylian_  Derragon
[06:18] <Derragon> minhthing, Without the slash of course.
[06:18] <minhthong> thanks
[06:18] <MaRk-I> minhthong: go to software center, search openoffice, click install
[06:18] <aaaa> there are three set of "xxx"xxx"xxx
[06:18] <smackmanic> Derragon: okay..so..ubuntu was installed second...so we're gonna go with hd0,1 I believe?
[06:18] <aaaa> what does the last one mean?
[06:18] <antonio_> zykotick9: if it wasn't ext would I have been able to add stuff to the drive at all?
[06:18] <tik> everyone can read write and excute
[06:18] <Derragon> smackmanic, /dev/sda1. Ubuntu doesn't work like Windows in that sense.
[06:19] <smackmanic> now...with that being ..uhh my head hurts. could someone find me an example of the boot?
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, yes...
[06:19] <Mr_Sonoma> minhthong: sudo apt-get install openoffice
[06:19] <smackmanic> Derragon, okay, so I WOULD erase HD
[06:19] <antonio_> zykotick9: its a vfat
[06:19] <hylian_> smackmanic not neccessarily, i have 2 hard drives, with multiple partitions, non of which are hd0. all of which are sda, sdb.
[06:19] <Firstgear> anybody know how to align left the title bar text on window frames??
[06:19] <Firstgear> in Gnome
[06:19] <cozone1952> thanks everyone
[06:19] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, no. Changing the root thing is just changing where GRUB will look to grab the boot information.
[06:19] <tik> hylian_: that is because they are SCSI and not IDE no?
[06:19] <dustin> is there a lunix that will recover my data, if i cant boot up?
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sorry i can't help with that.  good luck.
[06:19] <smackmanic> now im a bit more confused
[06:19] <smackmanic> sorry guys I haven't slept in a little over 48 hrs
[06:20] <smackmanic> running low on brain energy
[06:20] <hylian_> tik actually one is sata and one is ata.
[06:20] <antonio_> zykotick9: just you...or is this something that can't be done?
[06:20] <johnconfey> ........
[06:20] <tik> dustin: any livecd.. i recommend DSL
[06:20] <aaaa> Derragon:
[06:20] <hasek79> how do you get the dvd player to work so i can paly dvd movies?
[06:20] <chilli0> Can some one please help me before I kill my self. This stupid samba has retarded perms. I have set mask to 777 but still I can frking open the files./
[06:20] <smackmanic> I do know for sure that it was SD something before it got effed
[06:20] <tik> thats what i ment sata not SCSI
[06:20] <Derragon> smackmanic, As far as I know, when you updated Ubuntu, the GRUB got a little bugged and is looking to the wrong place to boot up from. Changing root= will make GRUB boot from where you tell it to. Kinda' like with the Windows XP bootloader's thing.
[06:20] <bazhang> !dvd > hasek79
[06:20] <smackmanic> so sd2 would be most likely for a second partition?
[06:20] <Mr_Sonoma> hasek79: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[06:20] <dustin> tik thanks going to check it out
[06:21] <bazhang> Mr_Sonoma, he needs medibuntu for that
[06:21] <Derragon> smackmanic, /dev/sda2 or something should be it, yes. I'm positive it's /dev/sd something.
[06:21] <hylian_> tik, actually, for some strange reason ubuntu refers to them as scsi in several places, although non of them are, i dont try and figure out ubuntu any more, i just go with the flow
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, VFAT is microsoft - i don't help with MS compatibility issues (i don't use any MS myself).  VFAT cannot use any linux permissions at all, and the permissions on the drive are determined by the mount command used.  Best of luck.
[06:21] <Mr_Sonoma> bazhang: DOH! forgot that
[06:21] <antonio_> hmm....
[06:21] <bazhang> the !dvd has it though
[06:21] <antonio_> this stinks
[06:21] <tik> hahahah
[06:22] <smackmanic> Derragon: I strongly believe it's 2 or 5, and im leaning towards to but for whatever reason it lists hd0,4 right now. not sure if that was me or a bug or it's correct
[06:22] <antonio_> does anyone have any idea how to change permissions on a vfat formatted drive with ubuntu?
[06:22] <hylian_> anyone have any idea on why android on virtualbox would make ubuntu (the host) hang?
[06:22] <smackmanic> and someone said hd 4 would be sd 4
[06:22] <smackmanic> *5
[06:22] <sweetpi> chilli0: you want a samba share that allows anyone to add/remove files?
[06:22] <smackmanic> but i believe it's 2. 2 sounds more fam (I dont use this machine a lot)
[06:22] <bazhang> antonio_, vfat has no permissions
[06:22] <smackmanic> okay...so....i would edit the hd line? sorry I think I asked this a sec ago....
[06:22] <chilli0> sweetpi, That's what I did say.
[06:23] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, since you're still in Windows, it's going to show it how Windows shows it. Unless you have already pressed e to get into where you need to be, it's not going to show you how GRUB shows it.
[06:23] <smackmanic> otherwise it looks like i'd have two root lines. but I'm not sure
[06:23] <antonio_> bazhang: so am I kind of screwed then?
[06:23] <bazhang> antonio_, care to recap? I missed the earlier bit
[06:23] <smackmanic> Derragon: i've been regularly restarting it and going into edit
[06:23] <sweetpi> chilli0: just making sure, i havent been paying attention
[06:23] <antonio_> well
[06:23] <chilli0> sweetpi, Ok , so you know how?
[06:23] <chilli0> I have set the mask to 777.
[06:23] <sweetpi> chilli0: yes
[06:23] <minhthong> how can i have the help of Ubuntu Vietnam?
[06:23] <smackmanic> Derragon: suspisious that it's returning bogus errors because it's set root
[06:23] <chilli0> =D
[06:24] <smackmanic> so.......okay, gottta try to condense this now
[06:24] <antonio_> I'm trying to make a backup of certain folders (home etc and usr) because this lappy is totally wrecked (screen cracked)...
[06:24] <bazhang> minhthong, /join #ubuntu-vn
[06:24] <MaRk-I> !vn | minhthong
[06:24] <antonio_> I used luckbackup to try to backup the stuff...was getting errors..some of them about chown...etc
[06:24] <sweetpi> chilli0: pastebin your smb.conf, and the permissions that are on the directory you want to share
[06:24] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well... I'd help, but I do need to get going right now. Sorry.
[06:24] <aaaa> hello??
[06:24] <aaaa> anyone here?
[06:24] <smackmanic> haha..perfect timing
[06:24] <chilli0> How can I show the perms from cli?
[06:24] <smackmanic> Derragon: appreciate the piece about the numbers not being updated tho
[06:24] <smackmanic> was worried
[06:25] <hasek79> aslo how do i make myself the owner or the system
[06:25] <hylian_> smackmanic "SCSI or SATA or USB drives will be designated "sda", "sdb", "sdc" and so on." although my eide (ata) is listed as sdb1.
[06:25] <Derragon> smackmanic, No kidding... I'm working on my netbook right now with its install, adding some things and such.
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, "ls -l" that's an L ;)
[06:25] <hasek79> i am the admin but im not the owner
[06:25] <sweetpi> chilli0: ls -ald pathtodirectory
[06:25] <smackmanic> hylian_ positive it's sda....and almost as positive it's 2
[06:25] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i got the sound icon to appear!
[06:25] <chilli0> sweetpi, smb config http://pastebin.com/He2e8MGS
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> ridin, what was it?
[06:26] <Derragon> smackmanic, But, best of luck to you. Hope you get it working.
[06:26] <smackmanic> so..anyway...how do I set the root again? I'm assuming I go into the grub commandline
[06:26] <smackmanic> Derragon: I will. one way or another. rm -rf peace bro
[06:26] <ridin> alt + f2 gnome-volume-control-applet
[06:26] <Derragon> smackmanic, Entering the edit part of GRUB via pressing 'e' during boot. Should be able to edit it from there.
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> ridin, that's the old version... just sayin'
[06:26] <smackmanic> what was the command again?
[06:26] <antonio_> bazhang: any idea how I can actually backup everything I need...my backup drive is a vfat
[06:26] <smackmanic> sorry I know you already answered..so did hylian_
[06:26] <ridin> ZykoticK9: :(
[06:26] <smackmanic> info overload
[06:27] <chilli0> sweetpi,  drwxrwxrwx 1 media root 81920 2010-07-28 23:20  , /media/media/Movies drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-07-31 03:38 /home/media/Music
[06:27] <smackmanic> setting the root is going to be the most important part heh
[06:27] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, you should be getting something that shows you all of the entries or something... I don't know, I never got into it until I was already using GRUB2. Sorry.\
[06:27] <dustin> can anyone tell me whats wrong with smackmanic, computer?
[06:27] <chilli0> Music shares works fine, the other one doesnt.
[06:27] <ridin> ZykoticK9, it's default on start-up, so...
[06:27] <aaaa> hey dude
[06:27] <skumara> i need to know whats the different with ubuntu 32bit and 64bit. I got AMD turion 64x2 in my laptop. Why in the ubuntu download page 64bit in not recommended for daily desktop usage?
[06:27] <redvil> has anyone here tried recording a video using a webcam in linux?
[06:27] <smackmanic> Derragon: already, well, thats what google is for
[06:27] <smackmanic> dustin: we'll get it figured out, im certain its a guessing game after I set the root =)
[06:28] <Lym> MaRk-I, is it supposed to get stuck at 5% for a while?
[06:28] <antonio_> skumara: someone mentioned to me something along the lines of flash not working too well on 64 bit...
[06:28] <bazhang> antonio_, flash stick or actual usb hdd
[06:28] <Derragon> skumara, Most of the people don't have over 4GB of RAM, which is the maximum about 32-bit systems support. if your laptop has over 4GB of RAM, use 64-bit because it supports it. Bye.
[06:28] <antonio_> 500 gig usb hdd
[06:28] <bazhang> redvil, tried camorama?
[06:28] <bazhang> antonio_, why vfat for that and not ntfs?
[06:28] <redvil> bazhang: thnx..i will look into it
[06:28] <skumara> derragon i have just 4GB RAM
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> skumara, personally i think the "not recommended" on the web site is a bug - and look it's already filed as one ;)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[06:28] <hylian_> smackmanic this should get you to be root, (you just arent chaging the root password): http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[06:29] <antonio_> I think it came formatted like that..never changed it
[06:29] <MaRk-I> Lym: depends on the USB but yes looks like it gets stuck for a bit
[06:29] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:29] <aaaa> you here?
[06:29] <aaaa> i can't do chmod
[06:29] <aaaa> why
[06:29] <redvil> bazhang: it says it only captures still images?
[06:29] <aaaa> tell me dude
[06:29] <bazhang> antonio_, well vfat has file size limitations of 4GB iirc
[06:29] <FloodBot1> aaaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <sweetpi> chilli0: and what are the permissions on a file you cant open?
[06:29] <aaaa> bazhang:
[06:29] <antonio_> ah that I can only xfer 4gbs at a time?
[06:30] <smackmanic> hylian_: thanks hylian_, swear my brain is getting sketchy
[06:30] <hylian_> aaaa you might have to sudo chmod.
[06:30] <aaaa> sweetpi: i can't  "chmod"
[06:30] <aaaa> why hylian_
[06:30] <chilli0> sweetpi,  The whole thing is retarded. On music I can't add files but I can remove.
[06:30] <SwedeMike> !details | aaaa
[06:30] <hasek79> ive tried to add a new folder to my desktop pictures folder and it says i cant b/c im not the owner. how do i make myself the owner???
[06:30] <smackmanic> i have to actually type this url out..or this java bs will crash lol
[06:30] <redvil> anyone here knows a app for making videos with webcam?
[06:30] <bazhang> redvil, perhaps I misread your question; did you wish to record your desktop or capture video through your webcam
[06:30] <antonio_> redvil: try cheese
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> aaaa, what filesystem are you using?  you can't chmod on any windows NTFS/FAT filesystems.
[06:31] <aaaa> chmod: WARNING: can't change pubs_src
[06:31] <aaaa> i'm on linux
[06:31] <aaaa> i can't chmod ZykoticK9
[06:31] <antonio_> redvil: go and download cheese..works great
[06:31] <redvil> bazhang: i wanted to record video using my webcam.
[06:31] <aaaa> pubs_src is a folder
[06:31] <tik> try  sud first
[06:31] <tik> sudo
[06:31] <antonio_> devil: go and download cheese
[06:31] <bazhang> !enter | aaaa
[06:31] <redvil> antonio_: thnx..i will try that one
[06:31] <aaaa> ok bazhang
[06:31] <aaaa> ZykoticK9: any clue?
[06:32] <antonio_> bazhang: you were saying...theres a 4gig limit..is that being only able to xfer 4 gigs at a time..
[06:32] <hylian_> aaaa what they mean is are you chmod'ing on a ntfs, a ext4, etc. are you on ubuntu's drive or are you trying to do this on windows drive?
[06:32] <tik> dud you try sudo chmod a+r dir ?
[06:32] <aaaa> Sorry, user "username" is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/chmod 777 pubs_src' as root on shay.ecn.purdue.edu.
[06:32] <shell-fu> how do i figure out the host name?
[06:32] <antonio_> or a max size on a vfag drive of 4gigs?
[06:32] <aaaa> i'm on linux
[06:32] <aaaa> hylian_:
[06:32] <tik> you can chmod on ntfs...
[06:32] <bazhang> antonio_, I was unclear, 4GB file size not transfer
[06:32] <aaaa> tik what you mean?
[06:32] <antonio_> frick...
[06:32] <hasek79> im guessing no one knows then????
[06:32] <aaaa> i don't own the folder
[06:33] <redvil> antonio_: have u tried CHEESE? does it save video in .avi format?
[06:33] <antonio_> bazhang: so each file can be no bigger than 4gb right?
[06:33] <aaaa> someone has the ownership of that folder
[06:33] <sweetpi> chilli0: so your only problem is you cant add files?
[06:33] <bazhang> antonio_, yep
[06:33] <jc1> Which is better ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04??
[06:33] <hylian_> aaaa what they are asking is not what os you are on, but what format the hard drive is where you have your files saved. is it a windows drive? did you format it when you installed ubuntu?
[06:33] <tik> sudo chmod a+r dir
[06:33] <bazhang> jc1, get the more recent version
[06:33] <aaaa> hey hylian_
[06:33] <bareego> hasek79, chown
[06:33] <aaaa> i am newbie to linux
[06:33] <shell-fu> how do i figure out the host name for a network configuration menu??
[06:33] <aaaa> how do i check?
[06:33] <tik> for all read access
[06:33] <MaRk-I> aaaa: you cant chmod files/folders on a server that isnt yours
[06:33] <chilli0> sweetpi, No. I can't play the movies. Music just cant add new files.
[06:33] <aaaa> it's a server
[06:33] <antonio_> bazhang: do you know of any kind of backup program that will backup everything..and when it comes to a file that is larger than 4 gigs, it will split it up...then rejoin it later?
[06:34] <hasek79> i cant add a folder so i can d/l pics to put in it
[06:34] <smackmanic> jc1: if you're updating have a livecd on hand!!! =p
[06:34] <bazhang> aaaa, please stop with the enter key
[06:34] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:34] <sweetpi> chilli0: what are the permissions on movie file you cant play?
[06:34] <aaaa> only the one who creates the folder can set the permission?
[06:34] <tik> no
[06:34] <chilli0> sweetpi,  Ill see.
[06:34] <tik> root can set it too
[06:34] <aaaa> i don't have root
[06:34] <tik> o
[06:34] <aaaa> except root,who can set it?
[06:34] <MaRk-I> aaaa: that's not ubuntu specific problem, ask your university for permissions (which I doubt they do?)
[06:34] <antonio_> redvil: not sure what format it saves in..check it out....then see if you can export it to a format you can use..or a format that you can change/convert
[06:35] <tik> the owner
[06:35] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:35] <bazhang> antonio_, not sure of your situation; the drive in question can be reformatted?
[06:35] <chilli0> sweetpi,  There is about 300-400 movies. -rw------- 1 root root 1520173056 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignmnet.avi
[06:35] <redvil> antonio_: ok..thanks again
[06:35] <null> Question:  Are there any known issues with the icons in the notifybar/taskbar becoming invisible?  I'm experiencing it regularly on 2 different machines.
[06:35] <hylian_> aaaa sudo makes you root, unless this server isnt yours. in which case if it is yours, your password would do it.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, only root can read that assignment.avi file!
[06:35] <bazhang> hasek79, you should be the owner
[06:35] <sweetpi> chilli0: chmod -R a+r /media/media/Movies
[06:35] <antonio_> bazhang: maybe..got to xfer a ton of things to the new lappy..
[06:35] <jc1> bazhang I used to have the 9.04 but I think the karmic was worse than 9.04 (because I can't change the GDM on karmic and another troubles that I had...)
[06:35] <antonio_> guess I'll try that :(
[06:35] <hasek79> but im not
[06:36] <chilli0> sweetpi, chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/assigmnet.avi': Operation not permitted
[06:36] <bazhang> hasek79, this is not your computer then?
[06:36] <sweetpi> chilli0: ah.. ntfs?
[06:36] <hasek79> but it is
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, use sudo
[06:36] <chilli0> Yeah.
[06:36] <antonio_> bazhang: if I copy everything over to my new lappy...then format the drive...I can put all of the files on there without any kind of problem, right?
[06:36] <hasek79> there is only 1 user on it and its me
[06:36] <sweetpi> chilli0: paste your fstab entry
[06:36] <bazhang> hasek79, are your permissions somehow messed up?
[06:36] <jibis> Bonjour tout le monde
[06:36] <MaRk-I> chilli0: if I'm not mistaken you have to add users to the samba conf... http://www.bunkerhollow.com/blogs/matt/archive/2010/07/17/ubuntu-10-04-samba-file-share-configuration.aspx
[06:36] <hasek79> idk and idk how to fix them
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> !fr | jibis
[06:37] <bazhang> jibis, english here please; french in #ubuntu-fr
[06:37] <jc1> bazhang and potuguese??
[06:37] <hylian_> i know this is dangerous, but i wuld love a linux distro where the end user has permissions to everything automatically. but the it would be called lindows, right?
[06:37] <chilli0> sweetpi,  /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 0
[06:37] <jibis> thank you
[06:37] <bazhang> jc1, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, you can't apply linux permission to ntfs file systems
[06:38] <jc1> bazhang are you using ubuntu 10.04??
[06:38] <sweetpi> chilli0: close anything accessing /media/media and unmount it
[06:38] <bazhang> jc1, yep
[06:38] <chilli0> ZykoticK9, Even If it's mounted the way I have done it?
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, if it's ntfs it won't work!
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, not with chmod
[06:38] <jc1> bazhang is it easy to change the box login??
[06:38] <sweetpi> chilli0: change fstab to say "user,auto,umask=022"
[06:39] <hylian_> chilli0 have you installed ntfs-config?
[06:39] <sweetpi> chilli0: then mount again
[06:39] <bazhang> jc1, the gdm2 greeter? not really, but not an issue as that is on for just a couple of seconds
[06:40] <chilli0> sweetpi, Anyway to force unmount it?
[06:41] <sweetpi> chilli0: yes, but dont. maybe stop samba?
[06:41] <jc1> bazhang I'm installing 9.04 on my pc...
[06:41] <smackmanic> ey hylian...this seems backwards...wants me to set all the boot info correctly before i set the root...?
[06:41] <smackmanic> hylian_: nevermind, missed one sentence
[06:41] <chilli0> Still busy sweetpi
[06:42] <smackmanic> damn, so basically go to recovery mode..
[06:42] <hylian_> smackmanic um, what exactly do you mean? i cant see your current set up, so i wuld suggest currently doing what your gut says to do.
[06:42] <sweetpi> chilli0: lsof | grep /media/media
[06:42] <hylian_> i would love a "my kernel is tainted" t-shirt.
[06:42] <smackmanic> hylian_nah I missed a sentence disregard the statement about it being backwards. or question rather
[06:42] <smackmanic> yes, yes
[06:42] <jc1> bazhang I have the 10.04 but even the live session I tried...but I'll try later
[06:42] <chilli0> sweetpi,  I got 4 entry's , Bash , lsof grep and lsof.
[06:43]  * smackmanic breathes
[06:43] <smackmanic> so recov mode...then guessing game
[06:43] <hylian_> smackmanic how do you emote in irc? i just type
[06:43] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok, you have a shell in the directory. cd /
[06:43] <smackmanic> type /me
[06:43] <chilli0> sweetpi, Done =P
[06:43] <smackmanic> followed by the txt
[06:44] <bazhang> jc1, issue with live cd you could try the alternate cd
[06:44] <chilli0> okay remounted. sweetpi
[06:44] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok check permission on file again
[06:44]  * hylian_ is crossing his fingers for smackmanic
[06:44] <smackmanic> hylian_ my concern now here is....the fix says to edit the root= entry....my root= entry is the one with hd0,4 right now...am i actually erasing the hd part out and replacing it with /dev/sda2 (or whatever mine might be) ?
[06:44] <chilli0> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1520173056 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignment.avi
[06:45] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok now you should be able to play the movie
[06:45] <smackmanic> or do I have two root=lines....i didnt quite grasp it earlier when D explained
[06:45] <chilli0> I shall see.
[06:45] <chilli0> Gotta restart samba.
[06:46] <hylian_> smackmanic yes. i think for two reasons, one, 8.04 is grub, 10.04 is grub2. and secondly, ubuntu probably didnt label it hdo,4. as a matter of fact i know it didnt. if anything, ubuntu would have named hd0,4 to hd5.
[06:46] <jc1> bazhang I use to save the image on DVD and when I need to install I create a pendrive boot...
[06:46] <chilli0> sweetpi, Thanks so much. Now should I be able to add new files there also?
[06:46] <smackmanic> im gonna give it a go
[06:46] <hylian_> smackmanic, or sda5, 1 etc, if this is a sata drive
[06:46] <mifadir> hi
[06:47] <smackmanic> hylian_, I recall it being sda something...but
[06:47] <mifadir> if ubuntu's configured like router must i use direct cable or corossover
[06:47] <mifadir> ?
[06:47] <mifadir> ?
[06:47] <FloodBot1> mifadir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <smackmanic> windows could tell me yah? under sys info maybe
[06:47] <smackmanic> i wanna be sure
[06:47] <smackmanic> ill check sys info out now...
[06:47] <hylian_> smackmanic that sounds right. my drives are sda1 and sdb2 respectively, b being my slave
[06:47] <mifadir> any one know answer?
[06:47] <bareego> chilli0, don't think so
[06:48] <chilli0> sweetpi, That's almost all perfect. If I add a new folder with a file it in. It doesn't work. It sets the permitions to owner nobody.
[06:48] <hylian_> mifadir how are you configuring ubuntu as a router? did you mean a firewall?
[06:48] <jc1> mifadir...no
[06:48] <mifadir> forwarding
[06:48] <sweetpi> chilli0: one sec i forget the umask
[06:49] <mifadir> router does not mear firewall?
[06:50] <jc1> mifadir depends...at first do you have any other pc running with another OS?
[06:50] <hylian_> mifadir router's and firewall's are not the same thing. a router dishes out net to other machines, a firewall blocks dangerous ports. most routers have a built in software firewall.
[06:50] <sweetpi> chilli0: oh, i think its 000 for world write
[06:50] <chilli0> sweetpi, So get rid of umask=025 or what ever it is?
[06:50] <smackmanic> this is useful info if you can convert it for me
[06:50] <sweetpi> chilli0: i forgot umask takes away permissions
[06:51] <mifadir> i know that hylian
[06:51] <sweetpi> chilli0: just change to umask=000
[06:51] <smackmanic> in sys info, my linux partition is disk 0 partion 1
[06:51] <smackmanic> *partition
[06:51] <hylian_> smackmainc sda1 sounds right. sda is a sata drive, 1st partition. sdb1 is the slave, first partition.
[06:51] <jerald> I'm still looking for 1920×1200 resolution
[06:51] <jerald> still no luck..
[06:52] <sweetpi> chilli0: make sure to remount
[06:52] <smackmanic> hylian_: appreciate it, hopefully i wont have anymore more questions about this tonite..we'll see in a few
[06:52] <smackmanic> brb
[06:52] <hylian_> crossing the fingers for ya man
[06:52] <chilli0> sweetpi, Restarting now ( the whole server )
[06:52] <smackmanic> ;)
[06:53] <hylian_> mifadir ohh, sorry. maybe i dont undertsand the question...?
[06:53] <sweetpi> chilli0: you only needed to umount/mount
[06:53] <jerald> How can I see what's my mac address of my laptop?
[06:53] <SwedeMike> jerald: ifconfig shows that.
[06:54] <robbiethe1st> Question: I have a 640GB drive, one of three in my machine. I have three partitions on each of them. Recently, the second drive, /dev/sdb stopped showing partitions. I see /dev/sda1-3, but not /dev/sdb1-3
[06:54] <robbiethe1st> /dev/sdb exists, and I can see the partitions with fdisk -l or gparted, but...
[06:54] <jc1> mifadir you use to have a crossover connection between two pc's??
[06:54] <jerald> SwedeMike, I did try it shows command 'tpconfig'
[06:54] <SwedeMike> jerald: no, "ifconfig".
[06:55] <theDom> can someone help me fix the problem where eclipse crashes on startup on 10.04?
[06:55] <bareego> mifadir, for port forwarding you need to enable port forwarding and enable masquerading... you can do it easy if you want with a package called guidedog
[06:55] <jerald> SwedeMike, got it.. thanks..
[06:55] <TheSarge> I have to use Jockey-gtk to uninstall and reinstall my wireless driver just to activate it everytime I reboot, is there any easier way to activate the driver at boot time?
[06:55] <TheSarge> modprobe or something?
[06:56] <sweetpi> TheSarge: echo "drivername" >> /etc/modules
[06:56] <jerald> it shows many number i got inet addr, mask, inet6 and fe96 so which is which?
[06:56] <hylian_> TheSarge could this be because your wireless connection is unencrypted and therefore not trusted? (not a wireless user so i am shooting from the hip on this one)
[06:57] <TheSarge> sweetpi: How can I tell what the drivername is?
[06:57] <chilli0> sweetpi, Yeah I know , But I prefer to restart because then I can make sure it still all works.
[06:57] <jerald> SwedeMike, I got too many numbers.. so which is which here is my mac address?
[06:57] <sweetpi> TheSarge: lshw -C network
[06:58] <bareego> jerald, the one after HWaddr
[06:58] <hylian_> sweetpi lshw isnt automatically installed with ubuntu...
[06:58] <cjae> isnt google earth under partners repo?
[06:59] <jerald> bareego, thanks got ti.. link encap:ethernet HW 00:.... this is my mac address right?
[06:59] <hylian_> cjae i had to use this site to get it: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[06:59] <bareego> jerald, the bit after HW yeah
[06:59] <TheSarge> sweetpi: What it says under product? Thats the driver name?
[06:59] <sweetpi> hylian_: it is.. depended by ubuntu-standard
[06:59] <jerald> bareego, thanks..
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: you should see driver:
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: easier way: lsmod | grep mac80211
[07:00] <hylian_> cjae did you see my post?
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: paste the output
[07:01] <chilli0> sweetpi, And not every thing works =S
[07:01] <sweetpi> chilli0: whats not working?
[07:01] <TheSarge> sweetpi: No output..
[07:01] <SwedeMike> jerald: it's on the first line.
[07:01] <sweetpi> TheSarge: then your wireless isnt up
[07:01] <TheSarge> sweetpi: and there is no driver: in the other output
[07:02] <cjae> brb
[07:02] <TheSarge> sweetpi: I am using wireless to talk to you right now lmao
[07:02] <chilli0> sweetpi, hehe my bad. I knocked out the usb to the external.
[07:02] <sweetpi> TheSarge: you did "lsmod | grep mac80211"?
[07:02] <chilli0> sweetpi, Thanks so much. I gotta go now =P
[07:02] <TheSarge> Want an SS with the wireless icon in the corner and my terminal showing no output for that command lol?
[07:02] <TheSarge> sweetpi: yes lol
[07:03] <sweetpi> TheSarge: .. doesnt make sense. try "lshw -C network | grep driver"
[07:04] <minhthong> how do i install file .deb to?
[07:04] <jerald> SwedeMike,  i got two of them eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:7b:15:d6   and eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:73:96:3c:fa
[07:05] <SwedeMike> jerald: yes, they are both your mac addresses on each network port.
[07:05] <smackmanic> haha hylian ran!
[07:06] <TheSarge> sweetpi: there is no driver line in either device.. I am uploading the SS 1 sec
[07:06] <sweetpi> TheSarge: lspci | grep net
[07:06] <TheSarge> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21cdwr8&s=3
[07:06] <zewb> awwww skeet skeet motherfucker
[07:06] <minhthong> every one please help me to install stardic?
[07:07] <zewb> awww skeet skeet god damn
[07:07] <sweetpi> !language | zewb
[07:07] <somethinginteres> hi all, I have configured NVIDIA X Server Settings in Ubuntu such that I can use my tv as a second monitor (TwinView) but despite having my PC monitor set as primary and TV as secondary certain programs and dialog boxes appear on the TV instead of the PC monitor. Any advice?
[07:07] <sweetpi> TheSarge: i see 2 drivers listed there
[07:07] <asdfasdfasdf> hello i have an encrypted file and its corresponing key, when i double click it seahorse opens, asks me for the passphrase and then decrypts the file but if i double click the file again it decrypts it again! without asking me the passphrase so anyone using this pc could decrypt my files without knowing the passphrase, how can i prevent seahorse to remember my password?
[07:07] <TheSarge> sweetpi: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[07:07] <TheSarge> where?
[07:08] <sweetpi> TheSarge: wl1 and r8169
[07:08] <jerald> SwedeMike, thanks.
[07:08] <bareego> he got pci and wireless
[07:09] <sweetpi> TheSarge: wl1 is what your looking for
[07:09] <TheSarge> Where are you seeing this?
[07:09] <TheSarge> w|1 is the name of a driver?
[07:09] <sweetpi> TheSarge: in your screenshot
[07:09] <TheSarge> Where?
[07:09] <sweetpi> lol
[07:10] <sweetpi> the output of lshw -C network
[07:10] <TheSarge> It doesnt say the word driver I greped it twice
[07:10] <sweetpi> it does
[07:11] <blink> hi. sound not working for me! what to do?
[07:11] <TheSarge> anyways waht was that echo command?
[07:11] <sweetpi> TheSarge: echo "wl1" >> /etc/modules
[07:12] <mayank> hey
[07:12] <sweetpi> TheSarge: hang on a sec though. never heard of a driver like that
[07:12] <TheSarge> lmao ya
[07:12] <TheSarge> I had to do some weird ass shit to get this driver working
[07:12] <mayank> @sweetpi  ; can u help me wid a prob
[07:12] <TheSarge> I already ran the commsnf
[07:12] <Suit_Of_Sables> oh woe is me! I need help making taking my OSX install DVD .dmg file and putting it onto my iPod so that I can boot from it. I'm dual booting on my macbook and borked the OSX partition which had rEFIt that I used to boot into linux! I am currently running off a live CD.
[07:12] <sweetpi> TheSarge: well see if it works then
[07:12] <mayank> @sarge : <TheSarg
[07:13] <Suit_Of_Sables> I have done this before in OSX but I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu's disc utility
[07:13] <TheSarge> just reboot?
[07:13] <asdfasdfasdf> hmm i discovered something it says im currently not running any agent to remember passphrases in PGP but clearly they are being remembered. what can i do?
[07:13] <sweetpi> !ask | mayank
[07:13] <mayank> @sarge : need a help in a problem
[07:13] <quakemack> Hello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?
[07:13] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: is gpg-agent running?
[07:13] <TheSarge> sweetpi: Just restart?
[07:13] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, how do I change what folder is my Desktop Folder in Ubuntu? For some reason, it changed it so my Home folder is my Desktop folder
[07:13] <sweetpi> TheSarge: yes
[07:13] <mayank> @sweetpi :  i m new user of linux (ubuntu) and i installed software update , on my beta version
[07:13] <smackmanic> in the grub commandline..i type kernal name-ver-info-etc then it should attempt to load it right
[07:13] <mayank> but now i wanna reverse it but i see it on my boot screen
[07:14] <smackmanic> *kernel
[07:14] <mayank> n in updated version
[07:14] <mayank> shutdown doesnt worjk
[07:14] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, yes its in my processes list.
[07:14] <mayank> nor from terminal
[07:14] <quakemack> Hello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?
[07:14] <sweetpi> mayank: you mean you updated your kernel and you cant shutdown?
[07:14] <mayank> so how do i uninstal it
[07:14] <mayank> ya
[07:15] <mayank> it hangs up
[07:15] <mayank>  n power reamains on
[07:15] <smackmanic> actually, im basically just asking if kernel load then boot in grub, im running out of options
[07:15] <thune3> !ask | quakemack
[07:15] <sweetpi> mayank: how are you trying to shutdown?
[07:15] <mayank> both gui as well terminal
[07:15] <pawan> hi
[07:15] <mayank> both dont work
[07:15] <quakemack> thank you
[07:15] <pawan> how to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:16] <iceroot> pawan: 9.04 - 9.10 - 10.04
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: well you could go into grub and select an older kernel
[07:16] <iceroot> !upgrade | pawan
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: what computer?
[07:16] <mayank> hw do i go about dat
[07:16] <pawan> no directly from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:16] <quakemack> !ask after i format my usb drive, and put ubuntu  on there for install, what do i do after that? do i reboot and boot from my usb drive?
[07:16] <mayank> p4
[07:16] <iceroot> pawan: not supported
[07:16] <drew3> Quick Question: Gnome-Panel is acting weird       Gvim-xxxxx-session.vim  <---should there be 7 different files in ~/gnome/panel2.d  ?
[07:16] <pawan> then
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: restart the computer and press esc while booting
[07:17] <bareego> quakemack, yeah, you might have to change the boot order in your bios
[07:17] <quakemack> thank you!
[07:17] <mayank> i ws hopin of permanent solution
[07:17] <bareego> quakemack, or press some button to bring up a boot meny
[07:17] <bareego> menyu
[07:17] <Suit_Of_Sables> does anyone know how to make an iPod into a bootable install disc from a .dmg file in ubuntu's disc utility?
[07:17] <XrK66> Hey friends
[07:17] <quakemack> !ask if i install ubuntu on a bran new harddrive with a new format, will this alocate all of the install drive for ubuntu. ? this is what i am trying to do.
[07:17] <mayank> @sweetpi : is d solution permannent
[07:17] <sweetpi> mayank: check forums for your specific motherboard and see if anyone else has this issue
[07:18] <Flannel> quakemack: By default it will, yes.
[07:18] <mayank> i think many peop ve
[07:18] <quakemack> ! thank you !!! you guys rock!
[07:18] <sweetpi> mayank: no its just a temporary test
[07:18] <XrK66> Install the backtrack is very cool
[07:18] <XrK66> Install the backtrack is very cool
[07:18] <mayank> bt linux hasnt been able 2 solve it
[07:18] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, i would like to deactivate the remember passphrashe feature, so  I have to manually re-enter passphrase to perform any action. i checked and the process gpg-agent is currently running despite that app telling me its not. any clue?
[07:18] <XrK66> I'm in the pentest leader
[07:18] <pawan> if i have 8.04
[07:18] <pawan> and want to upgrade to 10.04
[07:18] <sweetpi> mayank: what motherboard is it?
[07:18] <pawan> is it possible
[07:19] <iceroot> pawan: that can done directly
[07:19] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: kill it
[07:19] <mayank> @sweetpi dunno bout it
[07:19] <pawan> ok
[07:19] <XrK66> everbody use backtrack?
[07:19] <mayank> pc s at home n i never use it
[07:19] <iceroot> !backtrack | XrK66
[07:19] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, you mean after finsihing performing actions? because i think seahorse would restart it everytime. though ill test.
[07:19] <mayank> dunno hw 2 chk in ubuntu
[07:19] <mayank> windows mein it ws simple
[07:19] <iceroot> mayank: what?
[07:20] <sweetpi> mayank: no idea..
[07:20] <mayank> chk ur motherboard
[07:20] <iceroot> mayank: use normal english please
[07:20] <cellofellow> !u | mayank
[07:20] <mayank> your - ur
[07:21] <XrK66> Hey
[07:21] <spidy> mhm
[07:21] <spidy> :)
[07:21] <iceroot> mayank: again, use nnormal english please
[07:21] <mayank> oks
[07:21] <mayank> :p
[07:21] <cellofellow> It's not like you're typing out SMS on a number pad, you have a full-size keyboard and this is IRC where we talk in full sentences with real words.
[07:21] <mayank> does anyone know how to downgrade a version
[07:21] <XrK66> can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?
[07:22] <iceroot> mayank: not supported
[07:22] <XrK66> can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?
[07:22] <mayank> @iceroot : wat
[07:22] <cellofellow> downgrading is complicated and not recommended.
[07:22] <mayank> is not supported
[07:22] <iceroot> !downgrade | mayank
[07:22] <Flannel> mayank: What do you mean downgrade?  Which version?
[07:22] <sweetpi> !help | XrK66
[07:23] <mayank> i had 9.10 until i had software updates installed
[07:23] <sweetpi> wrong one
[07:23] <XrK66> can only enter the chat who uses ubuntu?
[07:23] <Firstgear> is there a gnome editor in Linux?
[07:23] <Flannel> XrK66: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support, if you're looking for a social channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is where you can go (and no, you don't have to use Ubuntu)
[07:23] <iceroot> XrK66: no, this channel is free for everyone
[07:23] <cellofellow> Firstgear: gnome editor?
[07:23] <iceroot> XrK66: but only used for technical ubuntu support
[07:23] <XrK66> ok, tranks iceroot
[07:24] <mayank> what if i go n install old ubuntu again
[07:24] <mayank> so no updates would be there
[07:24] <iceroot> mayank: why? what is the current problem?
[07:24] <Firstgear> cellofellow: yes that allows editing of themes
[07:24] <mayank> yes hangs wen i shutdown
[07:24] <Jibadeeha> tasksel is dangerous - i won't be using that ever again after it uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and all dependencies without even so much as confirmation dialog
[07:24] <iceroot> !who | mayank
[07:24] <mayank> power off never happens
[07:25] <sweetpi> iceroot: he says he cant shutdown after a kernel update
[07:25] <iceroot> mayank: any errors? acpi enabled in bios?
[07:25] <mayank> @iceroot : i am new kindly elaborate on last point
[07:25] <mayank> thank you
[07:25] <cellofellow> Firstgear: oh. Themes in gnome are a bit of a hodgepodge of metacity themes, gtk themes, and icon sets. There's no GUI editors for metacity and gtk themes afaik, just use a text editor and gimp. Icon sets, those are generally made with inkscape I think.
[07:25] <cellofellow> Firstgear: browse around gnome-look.org if you want some themes.
[07:26] <astropirate> what is the proper way to read/write to the /proc/[PID]/mem interface? when ever i open it up it's empty
[07:26] <Firstgear> cellofellow: thanks
[07:27] <vinnie> Heyo
[07:27] <vinnie> Can anyone help me with my disk issues in ubtunu? I'm trying to ditch MACOSX
[07:28] <vinnie> Macbook Pro 7.1
[07:28] <chris_osx> vinnie: why?
[07:28] <vinnie>  Timing cached reads:   3036 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1519.34 MB/sec
[07:28] <vinnie>  Timing buffered disk reads:   24 MB in  3.20 seconds =   7.49 MB/sec
[07:28] <vinnie> @chris_osx MAMP is frustrating for development
[07:28] <vinnie> I'd rather have something close to our production enviroment
[07:29] <SwedeMike> !details | vinnie
[07:29] <vinnie> @ubotuu you got it
[07:30] <chris_osx> vinnie: ubottu is a bot
[07:30] <vinnie> lol
[07:30] <astropirate> !details | SwedeMike
[07:30] <astropirate> hmm what do you know.. it is a bot
[07:30] <vinnie> I am running ubuntu 10.4 I have a Macbook Pro 7.1
[07:30] <vinnie> 00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0d85 (rev a2)
[07:31] <vinnie> My disk performance is terrible
[07:31] <vinnie> Anyone able to chime in on how to remedy this?
[07:31] <erik14213us> can grub be edited from gnome
[07:31] <TheSarge> Anyone here tried the hexxeh Chromium OS build?
[07:32] <erik14213us> or has to be done guring start up
[07:32] <bareego> vinnie, if you feel adventurous you could play a bit with hdparm
[07:32] <MHB_> hi all
[07:33] <MHB_> i have ubuntu 10.4 and i need proxy braker
[07:33] <Suit_Of_Sables> argh! ubuntu disc utility cannot format to hfs+! how the heck can I make my iPod into a bootable OSX install DVD from linux!?
[07:33] <vinnie> bareego from what I've read umda6 is already enabled.
[07:33] <vinnie> Any other tricks?
[07:33] <vinnie> I have a fresh backup of the other partition so I am ready to go nuts.
[07:33] <SwedeMike> vinnie: you could try 10.10 alpha and see if that kernel works better. There are some bug reports on launchpad you could explore as well.
[07:34] <vinnie> Amazing if an alpha kernel would be better.
[07:34] <vinnie> Can't I run whatever kernel I want? this is linux
[07:35] <MHB_> how to upgrade ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10
[07:35] <TheSarge> I How do you check md5 sums? Sorry for being a noob!
[07:36] <vinnie>  Timing buffered disk reads:   24 MB in  3.10 seconds =   7.73 MB/sec
[07:36] <cast> TheSarge: md5sum file
[07:36] <vinnie> I'm pretty sure that's pathetic right?
[07:36] <TheSarge> cast I just have the md5 value?
[07:36] <cast> vinnie: fairly.
[07:36] <cast> TheSarge: and?
[07:37] <TheSarge> cast: oh that was a command lol
[07:37] <SwedeMike> MHB_: sudo update-manager -d
[07:37] <sweetpi> !info hfsprogs | Suit_Of_Sables
[07:37] <chris_osx> do you think the latest stable vanilla kernel would run on ubuntu without problems?
[07:37] <cast> vinnie: yeah, you can. you dont even have to run linux
[07:37] <vinnie> cast: hah I know I don't, but I want to
[07:37] <chris_osx> that was @all
[07:38] <vinnie> Thinking I should just go buy a 600buck shit box
[07:38] <efuse> hey
[07:38] <efuse> stupid question here
[07:38] <cast> they all are, don't worry
[07:38] <efuse> how do i make it so when i hold down the middle mouse, i scroll
[07:38] <efuse> like how it works in windows.
[07:38] <vinnie> Frustating a 2 thousand dollar comp won't from an open source system properly
[07:38] <efuse> biggest complaint i have so far
[07:39] <cast> vinnie: one does have to be careful to buy decent hardware
[07:39] <vinnie> cast: I would think the hardward in my brand new mbp is good no?
[07:39] <efuse> vinnie, stop crying
[07:39] <thune3> vinnie: it would be interesting to see the line in output of "mount" that corresponds to your 'slow drive'
[07:39] <efuse> cast, do you know how to do what i want to do with the mouse?
[07:40] <vinnie> efuse: :p
[07:40] <cast> maybe it is, or maybe its crap. it might be crap because it might need weird drivers
[07:40] <MHB_> is after the upgrade i need to install all app agin
[07:40] <cast> efuse: nope.
[07:40] <efuse> damn
[07:40] <efuse> this is very similar to what i am use to
[07:40] <efuse> fuckin around in freebsd, etc
[07:40] <XrK66> Do you now any channels on backtrack?
[07:41] <efuse> #backtrack-linux
[07:41] <XrK66> i dont found it
[07:41] <efuse> official channel, script kiddie
[07:41] <XrK66> ok
[07:41] <XrK66> tranks
[07:41] <efuse> np
[07:41] <chris_osx> what is backtrack?
[07:41] <Suit_Of_Sables> sweetpi: I don't understand? is that a package that will allow for hfs support in ubuntu?
[07:41] <efuse> linux distro for script kiddies
[07:41] <MHB_> how to chang my hostname
[07:41] <chris_osx> efuse: omg
[07:42] <sweetpi> Suit_Of_Sables: it will allow you to format and check for errors
[07:42] <MaRk-I> !hostname | MHB_
[07:42] <jonaskoelker> Question  :   I downloaded ubuntu.iso and want to put it on a USB stick under _debian_.  How do I go about this?
[07:43] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: unetbootin
[07:43] <smackmanic> what is the cor
[07:43] <smackmanic> oops
[07:43] <vinnie> thune3: [    2.179213] EXT4-fs (sda3): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[07:43] <smackmanic> what is the correct way to load the kernel from the grub cmd line?
[07:43] <cast> smackmanic: heh. with the kernel command
[07:43] <cast> smackmanic: then the boot command
[07:44] <smackmanic> cast, haha..yah....yah
[07:44] <smackmanic> i mean... i got the ver info, but...would it be kernel-ubuntu-linux
[07:44] <smackmanic> or what....ive never loaded it from a cmdline before myself
[07:44] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: thanks, I'll try that.  I think it oughta' be on the install page; to whom do I suggest that?  bugs.ubuntu.com?
[07:45] <cast> smackmanic: to complicate things you may have a initrd, too
[07:45] <smackmanic> oh please no more complications...im almost dead
[07:45] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: ubuntu has one implemented, havent tried it tho, I prefer unetbootin
[07:45] <cast> read the grub manual, grub is neat
[07:46] <smackmanic> ive been reading it on and off the past 3 hrs
[07:46] <smackmanic> trying diff things
[07:46] <somethinginteres> Does Ubuntu support SSD hard drives?
[07:46] <smackmanic> im just trying to figure out the correct um...syntax i guess
[07:46] <cast> somethinginteres: yes.
[07:46] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: what I mean is, the install page says "do you want to create a USB stick on ( ) Windows ( ) Mac ( ) Ubuntu", I think it should say "( ) other linux" too
[07:46] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: ... with a step-by-step guide, even
[07:46] <smackmanic> actually, cast, will uname -a work in grub?
[07:46] <cast> no.
[07:47] <smackmanic> eff.
[07:47] <vinnie> thune3: ?
[07:47] <cast> whatever do you think it would tell you
[07:47] <cjae> no sound on youtube? 64 bit
[07:47] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: that's not a bug then..... suggest a feature?
[07:47] <cast> cjae: flash sucks. don't use it.
[07:47] <smackmanic> idk my brain is going dead from all this
[07:47] <somethinginteres> cast: thanks, looking at buying one.. didn't want to go ahead with it if Ubuntu couldn't utilise it
[07:47] <smackmanic> i just wanna try to load kernel and boot now, one last thing tonight
[07:47] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: fair enough; that's still at bugs.ubuntu.com?  Do they have a special section for "ubuntu.com web site"?
[07:47] <sweetpi> smackmanic: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-<version> root=<your_root_dev>; initrd /boot/initrd-<version>; boot
[07:47] <smackmanic> if i cant get this working tomorrow......
[07:47] <vinnie> cjae: flash does suck.
[07:48] <smackmanic> hm
[07:48] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[07:48] <cast> somethinginteres: the operating system doesn't even know, it just turns up as a block device
[07:48] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: do they ever listen to that?
[07:48] <cast> somethinginteres: erm, as any other sata drive does
[07:49] <Suit_Of_Sables> sweetpi: sorry to bother you again, but do you know if hfsprogs is in a repo? I can't seem to find it
[07:49] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: if enough people vote... I mean you think they'll implement something for just 1 person?
[07:49] <sweetpi> !info hfsprogs > Suit_Of_Sables
[07:49] <cjae> cast: yeah I see there is html5 for youtube but cant seem to figure out how to use it
[07:49] <jonaskoelker> MaRk-I: if it's in the bug tracker and they think it's a good idea, yeah
[07:49] <geraudk2000> hello
[07:50] <KL-7> Hi, I need some advice. I need download manager for ubuntu with pause/resume ability witch allows to browse ftp servers. Smth like reget delux on Win.
[07:50] <sweetpi> !info hfsprogs
[07:50] <cast> cjae: i googled for html5 youtube
[07:50] <sweetpi> Suit_Of_Sables: its in universe
[07:50] <smackmanic> sweetpi, could you use that as an exact command for me, 2.6.24-28-generic /dev/sda1 as it would be actually typed?
[07:50] <cjae> cast: and that join and part button or what
[07:50] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: then create an account submit your idea and have people vote on it
[07:50] <smackmanic> my head is killing me
[07:50] <cast> KL-7: lftp could do that, but likely, too advanced for what you're looking for
[07:50] <somethinginteres> cast: righto. I have zero idea on hardware so I figured it paid to check just in case. :) Thanks.
[07:51] <cast> somethinginteres: might want to check up on something called trim ;)
[07:51] <cjae> so I have login music but no youtube sound
[07:51] <sweetpi> smackmanic: for real?
[07:51] <cast> somethinginteres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
[07:51] <MaRk-I> jonaskoelker: go to Number 2   see what it says:   http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[07:51] <cjae> got it pcm
[07:52] <RedSonja> Hello All.
[07:52] <smackmanic> sweetpi: i havent had any sleep...im trying to get this right, have to reboot everytime...been working on this for the past 48 hrs
[07:52] <RedSonja> I need some halp.
[07:52] <smackmanic> it's overwhelming me
[07:52] <RedSonja> Plz?
[07:52] <smackmanic> so i wanna try this one last thing tonite before I call it in
[07:52] <sweetpi> smackmanic: smackmanic: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-28-generic root=/dev/sda1; initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.24-28-generic; boot
[07:52] <smackmanic> sweetpi: thanks, reallllllllly appreciate that
[07:52] <sweetpi> smackmanic: get rid of the semi-colons, its 3 entries
[07:53] <smackmanic> ah 3 sep commands
[07:53] <efuse> hey
[07:53] <efuse> how do i join a windows workgroup
[07:53] <efuse> so i can see my shares
[07:53] <MaRk-I> !ask | RedSonja
[07:53] <KL-7> cast, it doesn't have gui interface, does it? For this purpose I'd like to have smth with gui...
[07:54] <bareego> efuse I found dolphin seems to work the easiest for browsing workgroups
[07:54] <cast> KL-7: no, no it does not :)
[07:54] <cast> all the best apps dont use guis!
[07:54] <bareego> cast next you tell him to use smbclient or what ?
[07:54] <bareego> lol
[07:55] <smackmanic> brb
[07:55] <sweetpi> whats wrong with smbclient.. hmph
[07:55] <cast> nah, i avoid windows file sharing protocols
[07:55] <bareego> sweetpi, it's not "clicky"
[07:56] <sweetpi> bah, i dont even have a mouse
[07:56] <somethinginteres> cast: will do.
[07:56] <giov> What am I missing, when make for a wifi driver gives:  "/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." ?
[07:56] <bareego> hey, I do like to ssh into my server and see what screen is doing, too
[07:56] <KL-7> cast, I know, but as long as I use gnome I'd like to have some gui =)
[07:56] <chris_osx> sweetpi, you have a trackpad :-)
[07:56] <sweetpi> chris_osx: sshhh
[07:57] <MaRk-I> giov: did you install build-essentials and kernel headers?
[07:58] <giov> What am I missing, when make for a wifi driver gives:  "/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." ??
[07:58] <TheSarge> wtf I have downloaded this tar.gz from 3 sources and a torrent and it keeps erroring in the unrar/gzip?
[07:59] <sweetpi> !repeat | giov
[07:59] <giov> MaRk-I: b-e yes, not kernel headers
[08:00] <sinurge> hi, big issue, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a  freeze post nw time sync
[08:00] <TheSarge> I was outta disk space lmao
[08:00] <cast> TheSarge: there is no unrar. its a tarball.
[08:00] <TheSarge> cast: Ya thats what I meant lol
[08:02] <giov> MaRk-I: linux-headers-386 ?
[08:02] <MaRk-I> giov: do "uname -ar"   and install the matching kernel header
[08:03] <giov> MaRk-I: thanks
[08:03] <MaRk-I> giov: yw
[08:04] <MaRk-I> giov: this might work:   sudo apt-get -y install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:04] <Blue1> is there a reason, why the battery icon in the netbook remix, doesn't display the remaining power left, like it did in 9.10?
[08:05] <Archana> Is it possible to buy a laptop from dell with integrated webcam and with 10.04 installed ?
[08:05] <ttt--> hi, i get weird errors 'read only file system' all of a sudden!
[08:05] <ikonia> Archana: look on the dell website
[08:05] <MaRk-I> Archana: check their website
[08:06] <ttt--> suddenly i cant write to my hard disk. what could be causing this?
[08:06] <Archana> ikonia, ok
[08:06] <Archana> MaRk-I, ok
[08:06] <bareego> ttt--, odd, had that as well yesterday
[08:06] <bareego> had to reboot and run check on disk
[08:06] <sinurge> repeating again, i dw the 10.10 alpha 2 64bit..it boots up but if you click "try ubuntu" it goes to a freeze with a X mouse pointer or "install ubuntu" and it goes to a  freeze post nw time sync
[08:07] <ttt--> bareego, did you run fsck? or how did you fix it?
[08:07] <MaRk-I> !maverick | sinurge
[08:07] <chris_osx> is it a good idea to install a vanilla kernel?
[08:07] <iceroot> chris_osx: why you need a newer kernel?
[08:07] <Archana> ikonia, only 9.04 on netbook/laptop and without integ webcam :(
[08:08] <chris_osx> iceroot: i just would try out the latest stable kernel from kernel.org
[08:08] <Archana> ikonia, do you know any other like dell which has 10.04 and with integrated webcam ?
[08:08] <iceroot> chris_osx: then do it and find out yourself if it is a good idea
[08:08] <chris_osx> lol
[08:08] <sinurge> whats the command to check what kernal version am running now
[08:08] <ikonia> Archana: no
[08:08] <iceroot> sinurge: uname -a
[08:08] <MaRk-I> Archana: check system76 website
[08:09] <iceroot> sinurge: uname -r
[08:09] <TheSarge> Archana: I Just got a 1564 Inspirion and my webcam doesnt work yet :(
[08:09] <skumara> when i play avi files in VLC i got no sound. but i can play mp3 in amorok got sound. help?
[08:09] <chris_osx> iceroot: i did that with gentoo linux a few years ago and it worked without any problems
[08:09] <Archana> TheSarge, Good luck .
[08:09] <iceroot> chris_osx: its not easy to answer if it is a good idea, so its up to your opinion
[08:09] <sinurge> oh yeah thanks tried uname -a
[08:09] <Archana> MaRk-I, Ok. I am checking it
[08:09] <TheSarge> lol
[08:09] <TheSarge> But its so fat! lol
[08:09] <iceroot> chris_osx: as i said, find out yourself
[08:10] <TheSarge> fast!
[08:10] <bareego> ttt--, it did by itself when I rebooted
[08:10] <ttt--> bareego,  can you remember what you did to fix it? just run fsck?
[08:10] <TheSarge> Just getting the wireless to work is a bear
[08:10] <bareego> ttt--, I rebooted and fsck ran and fixed it
[08:10] <chris_osx> iceroot: ok. i just didn't know if there are certain reasons why on ubuntu you shouldn't try it
[08:11] <TheSarge> Wasnt dell preinstalling these things with Ubuntu, wtf doesnt everything just work?
[08:11] <iceroot> chris_osx: ubuntu related kernel-patches
[08:11] <MaRk-I> !fsck | ttt--
[08:11] <TheSarge> I heard MS paid Dell lots to drop outta Dellbuntu
[08:11] <ttt--> ok. i'll try that, thanks
[08:12] <ikonia> TheSarge: that's nothing to do with this channel
[08:12] <iceroot> chris_osx: i am running 2.6.34 fine on ubuntu but i dont wat to say, yes its always a good idea to run vanilla kernel
[08:12] <chris_osx> iceroot: where can i find out what ubuntu patched into the kernel?
[08:12] <TheSarge> Well it is but its off topic sorry :(
[08:12] <ikonia> chris_osx: the kernel soource package contains the ubuntu patches
[08:12] <iceroot> chris_osx: have a look at lauchpad for the patches applied to the source-package
[08:13] <chris_osx> iceroot: ok thanks
[08:13] <smackmanic> loaded kernel,init, booot, bleh.../dev/sda1/ does not exist..so i figured..maybe i got it wrong (didnt think so but tried) sda2...same thing
[08:13] <ikonia> smackmanic: is this ubuntu 10.04 ?
[08:13] <iceroot> ikonia: the source package doesnt contain the patches imo, they are applied while building and not part of the source-package
[08:13] <smackmanic> in busybox ls /dev i dont see ANYthing remotely close to that, however im not sure if i should
[08:13] <seidos> does sudo aptitude show packagename show the actual size of the package?
[08:14] <smackmanic> ikonia, yes
[08:14] <ikonia> iceroot: they are in the source package and refernced from the deb control file
[08:14] <smackmanic> just updated around 2 days ago, havent been able to boot up ubuntu since
[08:14] <ikonia> smackmanic: then disks should be referenced by uuid not, not /dev/sda why did you change it  from uuid ?
[08:14] <iceroot> ikonia: thanks for the info
[08:14] <smackmanic> ikonia: because there is some sort of bug that won't recognize  the uuid
[08:14] <smackmanic> hence im trying alt ways to get into ubuntu atm
[08:15] <ikonia> smackmanic: no there isn't
[08:15] <smackmanic> yes, there is
[08:15] <ikonia> smackmanic: ubuntu recognises the uuid just fine
[08:15] <ikonia> smackmanic: why don't you explain th eproblem
[08:15] <ikonia> the
[08:15] <smackmanic> lol ubuntu does not...
[08:15] <smackmanic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html
[08:15] <ikonia> smackmanic: explain the problem
[08:16] <smackmanic> identical problem, however i cant get that fix to work
[08:16] <ikonia> smackmanic: you get the dropping to shell error ?
[08:16] <smackmanic> yep
[08:16] <smackmanic> please tell me you know something about it
[08:16] <smackmanic> other than 'use livecd' cause i dont have a way to do that anytime soon
[08:16] <ikonia> smackmanic: first, was this a 9.04 to -> 10.04 install
[08:17] <smackmanic> 8.04 to 10.04
[08:17] <ikonia> smackmanic: , ok good, so you're using grub1
[08:17] <smackmanic> yeah
[08:18] <tik> hi
[08:18] <ikonia> smackmanic: boot from the livecd, run "sudo blkid" and verify the uuid's against the one used in /boot/grub/menu.lst on your boot directory on your ubuntu install (make sure not the live cd's file system)
[08:19] <smackmanic> =/
[08:19] <sweetpi> hehe.. "other than 'use livecd'"
[08:19] <smackmanic> fml
[08:19] <smackmanic> im sooooooooooo fried
[08:19] <tik> take a break
[08:19] <ikonia> smackmanic: sorry, when you said "other than use the livecd" does that mean you don't have a livecd
[08:20] <smackmanic> ikonia: at the moment i can't get one. not enough space (believe i tried to clear everything)
[08:20] <ikonia> smackmanic: ok, tell me about your system, how many disks, how many partitions ?
[08:20] <smackmanic> one harddrive...linux/windows dual boot
[08:20] <Suit_Of_Sables> does anyone know how to 'restore' a volume from a .dmg file in ubuntu? Do i need to convert it to an ISO?
[08:20] <smackmanic> im currently in windows
[08:20] <pawan> hi
[08:20] <MaRk-I> smackmanic: can you boot from an earlier kernel?
[08:20] <ikonia> smackmanic: how many partitions ?
[08:21] <pawan> can i upgrade from 8.04 64 bit lts to 10.04 32 bit
[08:21] <ikonia> pawan: no
[08:21] <pawan> then
[08:21] <ikonia> pawan: you can't change 64->32 or 32->64
[08:21] <smackmanic> ikonia, i wanna say 3...windows, linux...and whatever you'd call the other...sorry, newbie
[08:21] <ikonia> smackmanic: swap ?
[08:21] <smackmanic> right...i guess we count that
[08:21] <smackmanic> MaRk-I: I'm not sure
[08:21] <ikonia> smackmanic: so including swap 3 ?
[08:22] <smackmanic> yea
[08:22] <smackmanic> including swap 3
[08:22] <ikonia> smackmanic: ok, so was windows on the machine first ?
[08:22] <TheSarge> Which virtualbox package do I need to just install virtualbox? There is so man in apt-cache search virtualbox
[08:22] <smackmanic> yeah
[08:22] <ikonia> smackmanic: ok, you may want to make a note of this
[08:22] <smackmanic> windows was on here first, then ubuntu
[08:22] <smackmanic> ok
[08:22] <TheSarge> virtualbox-ose?
[08:22] <ikonia> smackmanic: boot the machine, you'll get grub
[08:22] <cntrational> how do i make a gparted liveusb
[08:22] <ejv> hello, i had ubuntu installed, then decided to install windows, now grub is gone, and only XP boots, how do I fix ?
[08:23] <ikonia> smackmanic: scroll down to the ubuntu 10.04 kernel using the arrow keys
[08:23] <cntrational> ejv: easiest way is to reinstall ubuntu
[08:23] <ikonia> smackmanic: press "e" when the ubuntu kernel is hilighted
[08:23] <smackmanic> right
[08:23] <ikonia> smackmanic: this will put you into an "edit" mode.
[08:23] <smackmanic> yes...
[08:23] <smackmanic> i've been there for a good 3 hrs...lol
[08:23] <theDom> anyone fix the Eclipse crashing on startup problem in 10.04?
[08:23] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, question...I had a GNOME panel that I made to to the right side of the screen & autohide...now it won't show up again...how can I fix this?
[08:23] <ejv> cntrational: why reinstall ubuntu, can't i just reinstall Grub somehow...
[08:23] <pawan> hello
[08:23] <ikonia> smackmanic: move to where the uuid is referenced, and change it to /dev/sda2 and then enter, then press "b" to boot
[08:24] <cntrational> ejv: hmm wait a second
[08:24] <ikonia> smackmanic: if that doesn't work change it to /dev/sda3
[08:24] <ikonia> smackmanic: the reason I can't be sure is I don't know which is your swap and which is your root file system
[08:24] <smackmanic> what about hd0,1
[08:24] <pawan> pawan here
[08:24] <ikonia> smackmanic: that shoulnd't need changing
[08:25] <efuse> having some random linux fun
[08:25] <smackmanic> ikonia...it might...heh
[08:25] <ikonia> smackmanic: that gives me a hint that your disks should be /dev/sda2 though
[08:25] <ikonia> smackmanic: why would it need changing ?
[08:25] <smackmanic> ikonia, i can actually pull up windows sys info and show which part is which
[08:26] <ikonia> smackmanic: doesn't matter what windows see's it as
[08:26] <ikonia> smackmanic: ubuntu may see it different
[08:26] <smackmanic> no I can tell by the gig space
[08:26] <smackmanic> lol
[08:26] <ikonia> smackmanic: I'm %80 confident it's /dev/sda2 though
[08:26] <TheSarge> can you not run virtualbox on a 64 bit install?
[08:26] <kzmc99> Hello. I am trying to boot a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 install on an older laptop. Windows is installed to HD0 and Ubuntu is installed to HD1, an external hard drive. Upon booting, I enter GRUB rescue and GRUB cannot seem to see HD1 via the ls command. What am I doing wrong?
[08:27] <cntrational> ejv: boot up the ubuntu livecb
[08:27] <pawan> are torrent sites good
[08:27] <smackmanic> ikonia...well...ill go try...this again..
[08:27] <cntrational> ejv: type in "grub-install" (without quotes) into the terminal
[08:27] <ikonia> pawan: what torents sites, for what
[08:27] <cntrational> er
[08:27] <smackmanic> (this is what i've been doing for the past hr or so.)
[08:27] <smackmanic> but brb
[08:27] <pawan> for music
[08:27] <ikonia> smackmanic: you've been using /dev/sda2 ?
[08:27] <cntrational> ejv: sorry, type in "grub-install /dev/hda"
[08:27] <pawan> softwares
[08:27] <ikonia> pawan: that's illegal and offtopic here
[08:28] <pawan> ok
[08:28] <cntrational> ejv: i'm not sure about this, so you might want to get a second opinion from somebody else
[08:28] <smackmanic> ikonia: ill be back in a sec...
[08:28] <pawan> any good sexy sites
[08:29] <ikonia> pawan: stop now
[08:29] <pawan> ok
[08:29] <ikonia> pawan: you've been here before, you know the rules, stop
[08:29] <pawan> sorry
[08:29] <kzmc99> Is it simply not possible for an internal drive's GRUB bootloader to see USB drives?
[08:29] <ikonia> kzmc99: totally possible
[08:29] <pawan> pawan from australia
[08:29] <kzmc99> ikonia: what am I doing wrong? GRUB rescue doesn't even see the usb drive
[08:30] <ikonia> kzmc99: it depends on a lot of things how/if the external drive can be used
[08:30] <ikonia> kzmc99: has the external drive ever booted ubuntu before ?
[08:30] <pawan> hello
[08:30] <kzmc99> ikonia: it's a brand new external drive
[08:30] <ikonia> pawan: you've said that, do you have an ubuntu question
[08:30] <kzmc99> ikonia: freshly partitioned in gparted
[08:31] <ikonia> kzmc99: how did you install ubuntu on it ?
[08:31] <tik> uhm instaling ubuntu on a externa USdrive usually won't work
[08:31] <tik> USB
[08:31] <ikonia> tik: works fine
[08:31] <kzmc99> ikonia: via the livecd, typical install
[08:31] <tik> go into boot menu and try booting off it
[08:32] <tik> not im what I've read
[08:32] <tik> USB ok
[08:32] <ikonia> tik: it depends on the motherboard and how it presents the disk
[08:32] <tik> external, only in 10%
[08:32] <tik> thumbdriers are ok
[08:32] <tik> drives
[08:32] <ikonia> tik: as I said it depends on the motherboard and how / when it presents a disk
[08:32] <tik> ok
[08:32] <kzmc99> tik, ikonia: it's a typical 300gb western digital external. motherboard is outdated laptop
[08:33] <tik> usualy won't ork
[08:33] <tik> work
[08:33] <Archana> !panels | DavidJHeinrich
[08:33] <ikonia> kzmc99: ok, in that situation, I'd bet it won't work as tik suggested
[08:33] <tik> google it if you don't believe me
[08:33] <kzmc99> what's the way to go then?
[08:33] <kzmc99> there's no workaround even?
[08:33] <ikonia> kzmc99: in what respect ?
[08:33] <ikonia> kzmc99: , the motherboard doesn't present the disk in a way that grub can see
[08:33] <tik> di you try booting off of it in the boot menu of your computer?
[08:34] <tik> usually escape
[08:34] <ikonia> kzmc99: does your laptop support booting from usb ?
[08:34] <kzmc99> unfortunately this model doesn't have a boot menu of its own
[08:34] <ikonia> kzmc99: no work around then
[08:34] <tik> why are you installing to a usb drive anyway?
[08:34] <kzmc99> what about with lilo or the windows bootloader? same deal?
[08:34] <cntrational> I've tried using unetbootin to install gparted onto a usb drive, but it gets errors if i try to boot
[08:34] <kzmc99> the laptop hasn't got enough internal drive space for ubuntu
[08:35] <ikonia> kzmc99: can't use the windows boot loader, and lilo will have the same problem
[08:35] <tik> um
[08:35] <tik> hm
[08:36] <MaRk-I> kzmc99: last thing would be if theres a BIOS update for that laptop that'll make it detect usb drives at boot up...  (but that hardly happens)
[08:36] <pawan> hello
[08:36] <ikonia> pawan: you've said that
[08:36] <ikonia> pawan: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no
[08:36] <pawan> yes
[08:36] <ikonia> pawan: please ask it then
[08:36] <kzmc99> mark-i: i'll check
[08:36] <pawan> is 10.04 better than 9.10
[08:37] <ikonia> pawan: just a later release
[08:37] <pawan> where are u from ikonia
[08:37] <ikonia> pawan: that doesn't matter, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only
[08:37] <tik> id instal the server version
[08:37] <milen8204> Hello all, What was the name of the program which i can change my mac address
[08:37] <pawan> ok
[08:37] <tik> what ws his nick
[08:37] <tik> was
[08:37] <shreymech> pawan,  please do not waste time here.. directly ask your question
[08:37] <MaRk-I> kzmc99: if there is an update, make sure it says to upgrade usb detection or something otherwise it would be a waste of time
[08:37] <pawan> ya
[08:38] <tik> kzmc99: id install the ubuntu sever version
[08:38] <pawan> then
[08:38] <tik> bare minimum
[08:38] <ikonia> tik: why would the server version make a difference ?
[08:38] <ikonia> tik: he's still going to want to put a desktop on it
[08:38] <tik> because hes ose on space
[08:38] <tik> low
[08:38] <pawan> anyone from india
[08:38] <ikonia> tik: but if he wants a desktop experience, it will be the same space
[08:38] <kzmc99> it's for someone who has never used linux before, and he's really enthusiastic about giving it a try..so i hate to let him down
[08:38] <tik> then install openbox
[08:39] <ikonia> pawan: is your native language english ?
[08:39] <pawan> yes
[08:39] <pawan> why
[08:39] <kzmc99> i believe he's down to virtually nil hard drive space
[08:39] <jon_> ubuntu linux for retards
[08:39] <ikonia> pawan: then why are you not understanding what I say about the topic of this channel
[08:39] <pawan> ok
[08:39] <tik> heh
[08:39] <tik> ooh sneaky
[08:39] <shreymech> shreymech, this community is not for fun... if you have problem regarding Ubu. than ask..
[08:40] <pawan> mann
[08:40] <shreymech> pawan, , this community is not for fun... if you have problem regarding Ubu. than ask..
[08:40] <CrackGuy> does anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?
[08:41] <smackmanic> all the numbers i tried would give one individual error, cant mount...........except sda2, which would actually give me the original error and drop me to busybox
[08:41] <smackmanic> informing that /dev/sda2 does not exist..
[08:41] <poopsmith> can u run osx86 on athlon64bit
[08:41] <pawan> good community
[08:41] <ikonia> poopsmith: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:41] <poopsmith> i know
[08:41] <ikonia> pawan: this will be your final warning
[08:41] <ikonia> poopsmith: then please don't ask in an ubuntu support chanel
[08:42] <shreymech> ikonia, better kick him out
[08:42] <pawan> ok
[08:42] <poopsmith> whats an ubuntu
[08:42] <TheEskimo> !ubuntu | poopsmith
[08:42] <smackmanic> ikonia: what do you think....it's definitely sda2....but....it says it doesnt exist....
[08:43] <poopsmith> how do i ubuntu then
[08:43] <jerald> how to install program using terminal
[08:43] <ikonia> !install | poopsmith
[08:43] <ikonia> smackmanic: just walking through your sitution in my head
[08:43] <ikonia> jerald: apt-get
[08:43] <jerald> ikonia, sample program like skype how to?
[08:44] <ikonia> !skype | jerald
[08:44] <smackmanic> ok...ikonia...if we can rollback.... to my earlier version.....if it's fairly safe and clean....i might be interested in doing that...i am going to take a 5 min breather
[08:44] <sabot> So I have a 2gb sd card I installed ubuntu on. Yet I only have 512 available space. Why? Can I change this to the full 2gb?
[08:44] <smackmanic> be back in a few mins
[08:44] <poopsmith> jerald: sudo apt-get install skype
[08:44] <jerald> poopsmith, thanks
[08:44] <TheEskimo> sabot: the os takes up space you know.
[08:45] <sabot> :S geez, ubuntu really takes up 1.5 gbs?
[08:45] <CrackGuy> does anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?
[08:45] <TheEskimo> sabot: however, you should still check with a partitioning tool to make sure you have all the space you can. But yeah, it takes up 1.5 gigs easily.
[08:45] <Furtano> i cant find my phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) 4
[08:45] <sabot> Im going puppy linux then :/
[08:45] <ikonia> sabot: ok, bye
[08:45] <TheEskimo> Though it can be varied some. But yes, for a thinner distro puppy is a good idea. Look at DSL
[08:46] <TheEskimo> (damn small linux)
[08:46] <sabot> I tried dsl at first, had problems. well see. thanks for answering
[08:47] <tik> question: does anyone know a watermarking program for ater marking videos in linux (not images)
[08:47] <pawan> hi
[08:47] <TheEskimo> good luck sabot
[08:47] <poopsmith> is there a version of ubuntu that comes preloaded 2 look like osx
[08:47] <daniel_tree> how can I check all the sensors ( temp , cpu ram..) in cl ?
[08:47] <ikonia> pawan: no
[08:47] <ikonia> poopsmith: no
[08:47] <tik> poopsmith: uhm 10.4 is a osx/ win mx
[08:47] <astropirate> i have a problem with the look and feel since i have moved to KDE from GNOME for some reason alot of the "non-kde" applications are keeping their look and feel from gnome and aren't matching the current theme
[08:47] <astropirate> what could be causing t his?
[08:47] <shreymech> anybody .. how to setup a DSL wifi connection .. i have a username and pass. provided by service provider.. i m using 10.04
[08:48] <sweetpi> !sensors | daniel_tree
[08:48] <TheEskimo> !offtopic | shreymech
[08:48] <tik> shreymech: uhm user and pass ae set on the route not by the service provider
[08:49] <ManDay> I got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?
[08:49] <shreymech> tik,  in a DSL connection we have been given a username and pass..
[08:49] <tik> herbmonk: he just said he is using 10.04 on a dsl connection not damn small linux ;)
[08:49] <poopsmith> non of the software in ubuntu studio works.. why
[08:49] <tik> er
[08:49] <tik> TheEskimo:
[08:49] <tik> i ma
[08:49] <tik> mean
[08:49] <FloodBot1> tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <TheEskimo> tik?
[08:49] <tik> soz, can't type
[08:49] <tik> hes on topic
[08:50] <TheEskimo> Yeah. I thought he was asking for isp support type stuff (setting up the modem) for a sec, not interfacing with it on an ubuntu box.
[08:50] <tik> he wats help setting up his dslconnection in 10.04
[08:50] <TheEskimo> My mistake
[08:50] <tik> ;)
[08:50] <TheEskimo> Thanks tik for catching me :)
[08:50] <seidos> I have a directory in ~/ that I can't delete.  I get this error:  rm: missing operand
[08:50] <poopsmith> none of the software in ubuntu studio works.. why
[08:50] <ziposk> who ziposk
[08:50] <TheEskimo> seidos: What is the exact command you use?
[08:51] <tik> Sedated: try rm -rf but be sure you want to remove it
[08:51] <seidos> TheEskimo, I've tried rm -r ##C and sudo rm -r ##C
[08:51] <ManDay> I got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?
[08:52] <TheEskimo> seidos:##c? is that the name of the directory?
[08:52] <smackmanic> back
[08:52] <herbmonk> tik: ??
[08:52] <seidos> TheEskimo, yes
[08:52] <smackmanic> ikonia: so...do you think a rollback would be fine
[08:52] <TheEskimo> Does # need to be escaped?
[08:52] <smackmanic> it seems maybe the least complicated path...but i've never rolled back
[08:53] <Furtano> i cant find my phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) 4
[08:53] <sweetpi> TheEskimo: yes, else its a comment
[08:53] <tik> sorry
[08:53] <tik> whatsup? lemme scroll back
[08:53] <seidos> TheEskimo, you mean using a \?
[08:53] <TheEskimo> seidos: one sec while I test
[08:53] <seidos> TheEskimo, heh, depends what you mean by "pound"
[08:53]  * seidos wants to escape a poundage
[08:54] <tik> ManDay: its no named 64 or 32?
[08:54] <TheEskimo> seidos: rm -rf \#\#c
[08:54] <seidos> TheEskimo, rm -r \##C worked, thank you.
[08:54] <hasenj> how can I search for packages from the command line without `aptitude`? I'm used to doing aptitude search
[08:54] <dustin> i need to get blakberry software running using wine, any help please?
[08:54] <seidos> I have no idea how that directory got there
[08:54] <TheEskimo> Glad to hear seidos
[08:54] <tik> Furtano: lsudo updatedb and then locate phomyadn I think it installs to /var/www and you have to my it to /var/www
[08:55] <tik> ersudo udatedb
[08:55] <tik> ca't type
[08:55] <tik> sudo updatedb
[08:55] <poopsmith> is it possible to run windows inside of  ubuntu like how ucan on windows with the virtualbox seamless type mode
[08:55] <tik> dustin: if you have a higher end computer try using virtal box
[08:55] <ikonia> smackmanic: a roll back is not possible
[08:55] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, poke poke
[08:55] <ikonia> poopsmith: only in a virtual environment
[08:55] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: heh...still trying.
[08:55] <cwillu_at_work> there's some timing :/
[08:56] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, check your pm's
[08:56] <smackmanic> ikoniaz: really?
[08:56] <TheEskimo> poopsmith: Yes. You can use virtualbox to do it
[08:56] <smackmanic> ok
[08:56] <ikonia> smackmanic: yes
[08:56] <smackmanic> wow
[08:56] <sirninja> If I were to set up ssh tunneling over the internet what would be the safest practices to do?
[08:56] <ManDay> I got a LIVE image on a thumb-drive - how can I see from the files whether it is 64 or 32 b?
[08:56] <ManDay> Any one?
[08:57] <sirninja> manday: do you have the iso you burned?
[08:57] <ManDay> no
[08:57] <ManDay> sirninja:
[08:57] <ikonia> ManDay: are you booting from the live image ?
[08:57] <MaRk-I> ManDay: just run the live image and do lsb_release -a
[08:57] <ikonia> ManDay: run "file" against a binary on i
[08:57] <ikonia> it
[08:57] <ManDay> ikonia: right
[08:57] <daniel_tree> ubottu, sensors command in my case shows only 2 temps( cpu's)
[08:58] <ManDay> ikonia: thanks :)
[08:58] <sirninja> what would be the safest method to enable remote ssh login from the internet but only by me?
[08:59] <tik> sirninja: change the port and restrict ip's in iptables
[08:59] <TheEskimo> tik: that isn't all
[08:59] <TheEskimo> One sec
[08:59] <ikonia> sirninja: enable ssh keys only and make sure you are the only one with a key, tie it down with iptables to your ip address, use hosts.allow to only allow your ip address
[08:59] <llutz> sirninja: use AllowedUsers in sshd.config
[09:00] <TheEskimo> sirninja: Yes. Use public/private key auth. Not passwords
[09:00] <Frijolie> I think I just goofed something up. I ran a 'sudo rm -r /usr/share/fonts/truetype'. what's the installation package to get ttf's back?
[09:00] <tik> Frijolie: hehe
[09:00] <sirninja> I don't know if the ip I'll be accessing it from will always be the same though
[09:00] <Frijolie> tik, yeah I wasn't thinking...
[09:01] <sirninja> is it possible to make it block an ip after so many failed attempts? of course running on a nonstandard port would stop 99% of people from trying to begin with wouldn't it?
[09:01] <tik> sirninja: add a range
[09:01] <tik> and check log regularly
[09:01] <tik> yes install fail2ban
[09:01] <llutz> sirninja: look at fail2ban or denyhosts
[09:02] <sirninja> ok. Thanks. Hopefully that will be enough. :D
[09:02] <poopsmith> does ubuntu have a hosts file
[09:02] <WaltzingAlong> poopsmith: yes
[09:02] <Name141> Is there 3D support for the Radeon 4670?
[09:02] <efuse> don't buy ati cards.
[09:02] <Name141> efuse: 4670 ate the 9500GT
[09:02] <tik> Frijolie: idk.. look into uhm apt-file or maybe thy are on thelivecd an you can cp them?
[09:02] <TheEskimo> Name141: There are offical ati drivers from ati. They are proprietary
[09:03] <poopsmith> efuse: atis crappy hardware or nvidias horible drivers.. its win lose
[09:03] <TheEskimo> Name141: I think they do support all current hd cards since the hd 2xxx
[09:03] <Frijolie> tik, what's the default font for ubuntu?
[09:03] <tik> no idea
[09:03] <tik> i've never messed with fonts
[09:03] <Name141> TheEskimo: Should I even attempt to move over to Ubuntu running my games on Wine?
[09:04] <sirninja> I really don't have to worry about accidentally being blocked by fail2ban if I only use keys and not passwords do I?
[09:04] <TheEskimo> Name141: It depends on which games.
[09:04] <Name141> (through steam)
[09:04] <Suit_Of_Sables> I converted an OSX install DVD dmg to a linux mountable img file. anyone know how I could slap that sucker on an iPod to boot from it?
[09:04] <TheEskimo> Name141: Steam games... Work... A little. not very well though. It is really hit and run. With a bit of effort they can be playable, but not as good as windows.
[09:04] <poopsmith> lol wat
[09:04] <Name141> TheEskimo: Portal, HL1-HL2:EP2, Star Wars Shadows of the empire, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Unreal - UT3 Black
[09:05] <Furtano> browser can't find /phpmyadmin site, installed phpmyadmin on my vserver (ubuntu 9.04 w. apache) ! why?
[09:05] <sweetpi> !piracy | Suit_Of_Sables
[09:05] <TheEskimo> Name141: Crysis. never
[09:05] <sirninja> furtano: I'm pretty sure it's case sensitive. make sure you have the right case
[09:05] <TheEskimo> Name141: The source games yes, the rest no. And still, not well
[09:05] <WaltzingAlong> Furtano: check the apache log
[09:05] <poopsmith> lol source games run beter inside virtual box with 3d support turned on than through wine
[09:05] <poopsmith> true story
[09:06] <Suit_Of_Sables> sweetpi: This is not piracy!!! I'm on a macbook! explain to me how you can by one of these overpriced turds WITHOUT paying for the OS?!
[09:06] <Name141> TheEskimo: Looks like I'll be doing DirectX9.0C gaming then.  I'm not buying Windows7
[09:06] <TheEskimo> Name141: If gaming is important to you than ubuntu just won't work that well. You can still duel boot if oyu like
[09:06] <iceman_3233> hello
[09:06] <tik> you can get 10 with tinyvista :(
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> Suit_Of_Sables: nonetheless, not ubuntu related.
[09:07] <timon> Apart from cksum is there any other command to do the checksumming of files. I need to do the checksumming of original and downloaded files and do a comparison test between the two. Any ideas??
[09:07] <poopsmith> namee141: wo said u have 2 buy it?
[09:07] <Suit_Of_Sables> WaltzingAlong: I need to get OSX installed again so I can have rEFIt so i can boot into UBUNTU
[09:07] <iceman_3233> Vuze is not working on 10.10?
[09:07] <poopsmith> name141: who said u have 2 buy it?
[09:07] <tik> not a warez channel
[09:07] <sweetpi> Suit_Of_Sables: you were already told this in ##linux. and it is piracy when you download a tarball with a dmg of macosx in it
[09:07] <tik> you are gnna get bnned
[09:07] <Name141> poopsmith: No comment.
[09:07] <poopsmith> i wasnt suggesting that
[09:07] <tik> hehe
[09:08] <tik> md5sum ?
[09:08] <poopsmith> ill admit it superbar rocks
[09:08] <tlarson> whats the command to tell which package a given file came from?
[09:08] <Name141> poopsmith: Well it'd be off topic to ask if "anybody's got a license they aren't using on their 3 pack"
[09:08] <Name141> so I can't.
[09:08] <cwillu_at_work> tlarson, dpkg-query -S /file/name I believe
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> apt-file ?
[09:08] <tik> cwillu_at_work: you work nights?
[09:08] <Suit_Of_Sables> you could just say you don't know, which would be more honest. bottom line is I paid for the damn software
[09:08] <tik> good tip
[09:09] <cwillu_at_work> tik, I don't sleep
[09:09] <blunder> heh
[09:09] <tik> me either :P
[09:09]  * blunder relates
[09:09] <ndevastator> can anyone tell me how to add a program to the open with menu ?
[09:09] <tlarson> cwillu_at_work, ty
[09:09] <tik> "Main Menu" ndevastator
[09:09] <tik> Syste Pref
[09:10] <ndevastator> tik, no i dont want to add it to a menu... i want to add it to the open with options for a file
[09:10] <ndevastator> tik, for example i want to add gPHPEdit to the open with menu when u right click on a php file
[09:11] <tik> oooh
[09:11] <tik> hold on
[09:11]  * poopsmith passes gas
[09:11] <blunder> oh noes
[09:12] <guest1> properties - the 3 tab "open with"
[09:12] <poopsmith> why cant netbook remix be more like jolicloud
[09:12] <RenardGrey> Hello. I use thunderbird and an gmail account with pop protocole. When I get the mails, they are removed on gmail server from the incoming directory, but are move to the dustbin directory. How to remove the mail automatically after getting thenm on thunderbird?
[09:13] <poopsmith> empathy is ur friend
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> RenardGrey: might need to configure that on the gmail side
[09:13] <tik> ndevastator: right click the file you want to ope with gPHPEdit and then "open with another application" and make sureremember is checked
[09:13] <TechNiZo> hello
[09:13] <sweetpi> poopsmith: do you have a real question, or are you here to troll all night?
[09:13] <TheEskimo> !hi | TechNiZo
[09:13] <poopsmith> sweetpi: ouch
[09:14] <RenardGrey> WaltzingAlong: I have already done it, but it doesn't work
[09:14] <ndevastator> tik,  it only allows you to select from a predetermined list.... and gPHPEdit isnt in that list
[09:14] <tik> uhm 1sec
[09:14] <s4> my system fails to starts and leave me on grub> prompt
[09:14] <tik> "use custom command"
[09:14] <tik> its prob in /bin or /usr/bin
[09:15] <tik> s4: are you dual booing?
[09:15] <tik> booting
[09:15] <ManDay> What is the diff between "Safely Remove Drive" and "Eject" ?
[09:15] <s4> i am using using ubuntu 10.04lts with dual booting
[09:15] <TheEskimo> ManDay: Essentially no difference I think.
[09:15] <tik> ManDay: non really
[09:15] <s4> tik yes
[09:15] <tik> s4: thats why
[09:15] <ManDay> TheEskimo: well then, great to have the choice...
[09:15] <TheEskimo> Indeed :)
[09:16] <s4> what should i do now to rectify now is this the problem of the grub
[09:16] <tik> i cant realy go into detail becaue i dont do itmyself
[09:16] <ndevastator> for those who tried to help u can get ubuntu tweak
[09:16] <ndevastator> i just found it
[09:16] <tik> but lok into modding grub via google
[09:16] <ndevastator> it allows u to make new options in that list
[09:16] <poopsmith> whats better for hd porn ubuntu or linux
[09:16] <bazhang> poopsmith, stop that
[09:16] <poopsmith> k
[09:16] <ndevastator> ubuntu is linux so i suppose both
[09:16] <tik> poopsmith: uhm xfs ;)
[09:17] <tik> thats filesystem though
[09:17] <bazhang> !guidelines > poopsmith
[09:17] <yessir_turan> ubottu: You're boring
[09:19] <poopsmith> i just installed my usb on my ubuntus and the memory keeps erroring on the samoflange. how 2 fix?
[09:19] <tik>  /gnore poopsmith
[09:19] <tik>  /ignore
[09:19] <tik> :P
[09:19] <bazhang> poopsmith, that makes zero sense
[09:19] <poopsmith> its a legit question
[09:19] <tik> it isnt even English
[09:19] <bazhang> poopsmith, rephrase then
[09:20] <tik> usb what
[09:20] <poopsmith> the doohickie on the downflops not working with the kindle i plugged in
[09:20] <mtw> one hour later...after installing ubuntu:
[09:20] <guest1> poopsmith
[09:20] <guest1> http://fungraph.ru/graph/prosmotr-porno-v-operacionnyh-sistemah
[09:20] <mtw> http://imgur.com/BIESO.jpg
[09:20] <poopsmith> guest1, tk
[09:21] <mtw> that went pretty smoothly
[09:21] <Sacho> mtw: VM?
[09:21] <poopsmith> guest1, lol
[09:21] <mtw> nah, native
[09:22] <TheEskimo> mtw: I am impressed. Very pretty
[09:22] <mtw> :)
[09:23] <poopsmith> starcraft II on linux f'in boss
[09:23] <poopsmith> nice
[09:23] <bazhang> !ot > poopsmith
[09:23] <s4> if in ubuntu some program hangs then i have to restart the system is there any way to closee the non responding running program. it really annoys when you try to run mplayer and play a movie and it haangs and no mousse click responds niether the keyboard responds. something like in window i run task manager and close the non responding applicatiooon
[09:23] <ndevastator> ok i have found how to manually alter that list
[09:24] <TheEskimo> s4: run xkill and click on it. If that fails run kill -9 pid
[09:24] <ndevastator> its located at /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[09:24] <guest1> poopsmith, http://fungraph.ru/graph/funkcionalnost-os (the graph in the right side is "watching videos")
[09:24] <guest1> functionality - Games - Graphics and Video - Crack and Develop - Watching Porn
[09:24] <TheEskimo> s4: You can run xkill by hitting alt+F2 and then typing xkill. You can find the pid by running ps -Aux | grep -i program name and then using that with kill.
[09:25] <s4> theeskimo mouse and keyboard also becomes non responding
[09:25] <bazhang> guest1, that is not appropriate for here nor on topic. please stop
[09:25] <s4> then what
[09:25] <ndevastator> okay how would i go about finding a files execution line
[09:25] <guest1> it s ok
[09:25] <TheEskimo> s4: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1
[09:25] <bazhang> guest1, no its not
[09:25] <ManDay> mtw: I see someone likes high-quality unbiased reports...
[09:25] <oddtod> hey guys does Gnome have the ability to have differnet wall papers on different windows?
[09:25] <ManDay> :p
[09:25] <ManDay> oddtod: i think yes
[09:25] <oddtod> or 'spaces'?
[09:25] <TheEskimo> s4: That should take you into a shell. From there you can start and stop your desktop environment or anything else causing problems
[09:25] <ManDay> I recall having seen such an option somewhere oddtod
[09:25] <froud> Hi, anyone know how to make wvdial auto connect on startup
[09:26] <tik> ndevastator: eh?
[09:26] <ennui> has anyone had experience with usb-creator? having trouble finding documentation for it. I installed the package from the repos but 'usb-creator' does not seem to be the command
[09:26] <TheEskimo> froud: You can add commands to the /etc/init.d/ directory to have them run on startup.
[09:26] <tik> poopsmith: starcraft II on linux?
[09:26] <poopsmith> nobody is talking to me on #ubuntu-offtopic feels like highschool all over again
[09:27] <thune3> ndevastator: i just found out you can right click on a file icon, select properties, tab "open with" and select add button. Radio button chooses default.
[09:27] <poopsmith> tik, yes picture posted abaove
[09:27] <froud> TheEskimo: okay going to see
[09:28] <poopsmith> tik, mtw posted this http://imgur.com/BIESO.jpg
[09:28] <tik> oh
[09:28] <ikonia> poopsmith: try to keep this to ubuntu support discussion please,
[09:28] <ikonia> poopsmith: maybe take the gaming talk/screenshots to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:29] <sinurge> oddtod: yes possible, http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu
[09:29] <HeTaL> poopsmith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdv1Um243Z8&playnext=1&videos=VdepuaerYeg
[09:29] <ikonia> HeTaL: did you not see what I said about the topic of the channel ?
[09:29] <HeTaL> Sorry ikonia
[09:29] <HeTaL> Posted before I read on.
[09:29] <sometux> \0
[09:29] <HeTaL> Won't happen again.
[09:29] <gq_> Hello
[09:29] <ikonia> HeTaL: thanks
[09:30]  * bintut waves.. gtg now.. thanks..
[09:30] <ndevastator> ok does anyone know how to add a blank file template ?
[09:31] <poopsmith> hetal, gentoos slogan should be
[09:31] <poopsmith> "get some"
[09:31] <gq_> who come from china!!??
[09:32] <thune3> ndevastator: "blank file template" doesn't evoke any meaning for me, could you elaborate.
[09:32] <bazhang> !cn | gq_
[09:32] <Gup> ennui, 'dpkg-query -L usb-creator' should show you the files the package contains and give you a clue to the command name.
[09:32] <guest1>  ndevastator http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/nautilus.html
[09:32] <ndevastator> thune3, when u right click and choose blank file.. theres a greyed out option for a template... how might i add one
[09:32] <Gup> ennui, assuming the package was called usb-creator
[09:33] <ennui> Gup: I found it, it was usb-creator-gtk :/ thanks for helping :)
[09:34] <guest1> ndevastator maybe this? http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/gosnautilus-templates-docs.html.en
[09:34] <gabriele> hi
[09:34] <jae_> yo
[09:35] <CrackGuy> does anyone how can i setup a hotmail email account on empathy?
[09:35] <gabriele> can I ask something?
[09:35] <baradrian> hello
[09:35] <jae_> sure
[09:35] <tik> brb
[09:35] <TheEskimo> !ask | gabriele
[09:35] <milen8204> Hi all, How i can change icons to my starters and where i can find icons ?
[09:36] <gabriele> I have a problem during the boot of Lubuntu
[09:36] <jae_> ok
[09:36] <jae_> what is that problem?
[09:36] <gabriele> During the first boot, I have a crash
[09:36] <ndevastator> guest1, that was it ty
[09:36] <jae_> and...
[09:36] <gabriele> if I reboot
[09:36] <TheEskimo> gabriele: Please put all the details together in one message so we can more easily tell what the problem is
[09:36] <mtw> http://i.imgur.com/pFHJI.jpg
[09:36] <mtw> yeahhhh
[09:37] <jae_> yes please.
[09:37] <oCean_> !who | jae_
[09:37] <oCean_> mtw: what is your question?
[09:37] <gabriele> if I reboot LUBUNTU  start normally
[09:37] <mtw> nothing at the moment
[09:37] <mtw> just experimenting with linux and shit
[09:37] <gabriele> what?
[09:37] <oCean_> mtw: don't use that language here
[09:37] <oCean_> mtw: also, don't use this channel for such postings
[09:37] <jae_> >gabriele so first boot crashes but starts okay on reboot
[09:37] <mtw> ocean
[09:37] <mtw> you aren't an op
[09:38] <mtw> so how about you go fuck yourself
[09:38] <gabriele> yes
[09:38] <FloodBot1> mtw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <KE1HA> Does anyone know of the Maverick 10.10 RC's include fixes for the Black Screen issues on Intel 855 boxes ?
[09:38] <mtw> see how that works
[09:38] <bazhang> mtw, does not matter stop it
[09:38] <jae_> >mtw lol
[09:39] <jae_> >gabriele  r u dual booting?
[09:39] <Gogu> Hi, My Lucid Lynx is seriously down. Wireless drivers gone, not able to run liveCD. hw can i repair ? pl help
[09:39] <TheEskimo> gabriele: Can you give more details? Do you have a log indicating why the crash happened or more info about it?
[09:40] <TheEskimo> Gogu: how can you not run the live cd?
[09:40] <tik> Gogu: why can't you run alivecd?
[09:40] <arunkumar413> hi,i cant boot ubuntu after installing fedora 13
[09:40] <TheEskimo> arunkumar413: That is probably a problem with grub, yes?
[09:40] <tik> arunkumar413: edit your grub settings :P idk sorry
[09:41] <Gogu> TheEskimo, Tik, I can only see the contents of the CD. the autorun is not working
[09:41] <erUSUL> arunkumar413: if you installed fedora's grub you have to add ubuntu to it. ask in a fedora channel how is the best method
[09:41] <TheEskimo> gogu: You need to boot from it. Restart your computer and choose it as your boot device
[09:41] <arunkumar413> tik: plz help me how to edit the grub settings
[09:42] <Alinon> is there a good chan here to go chat in about general hardware discussion?
[09:42] <Gogu> THeEskimo i tried that many times thru restarting, it is not booting from CD. but is booting normally
[09:42] <oCean_> Alinon: there is ##hardware channel
[09:42] <froud> TheEskimo: thank you very much it worked added script with wvdial 2>/tmp/wvdial.messages & and it works a treat but you must update-rc.d wvdial-connect defaults
[09:42] <Alinon> oCean: thanks i'll try that
[09:42] <TheEskimo> Gogu: Go to your boot setup.
[09:43] <TheEskimo> Gogu: it is an option in the bios
[09:43] <arunkumar413> erUSUL: ya,its fedora's grub
[09:43] <TheEskimo> froud: Very glad I could be a help. :)
[09:43] <Gogu> TheEskimo How?  I am beginner
[09:43] <dooglus> hi guys.  hope you can help me.  this ubuntu 10.04 laptop suddenly started going very slow.  how can I speed it up again?
[09:44] <TheEskimo> Gogu: When you start up there should be a message saying "Press x for setup" or similar. For example f2, f12, or delete. When you hit that key you will be taken to the bios setup screen. Here you need to find a 'Boot order' option and raise the cd-rom option to above the harddrive one. After that hit f10 to exit and save and try again
[09:44] <gabriele> TheEskimo I haven't a great experience in Linux, I see that during theboot Lubuntu crash,if I try to reboot Linux restart
[09:44] <tik> gogu: whn you turn on your computer hit escape usally and go into the oot menu and selete your cd-rom drive
[09:44] <ikonia> last popp
[09:44] <ikonia> oops
[09:44] <oddtod> does anyone notice significant system efficiency when they turn on bridge network adapter for a vbox?
[09:45] <sirwallis> hello all
[09:45] <TheEskimo> gabriele: I'm sorry, without a logfile or more information I can't help. I don't know what could be wrong from that.
[09:45] <TheEskimo> !hi | sirwallis
[09:45] <gabriele> TheEskimo
[09:45] <Gogu> TheEskimo I did not get tht prompt. I wil try again. Pl give me few miins
[09:45] <AshDragon> faq: what does LTS stand for?
[09:45] <sirwallis> im looking for help
[09:45] <red2kic> oddtod: Not really. I noticed my system is efficient when I purged Windows for Ubuntu. :)
[09:45] <gabriele> Where I can find a log FILE?
[09:45] <tik> AshDragon: long tem support
[09:45] <red2kic> AshDragon: Long Term Support.
[09:45] <tik> term
[09:45] <AshDragon> ty (:
[09:45] <ikonia> gabriele: a log file for what
[09:46] <TheEskimo> Gogu: You can try the keys I suggested if you like. It is likely one of the function keys or delete or tab.
[09:46] <sirwallis> with a netbook realtek wifi driver
[09:46] <red2kic> !lts | AshDragon :)
[09:46] <gabriele> for more information on the boot problem
[09:46] <dooglus> hi guys.  hope you can help me.  this ubuntu 10.04 laptop suddenly started going very slow.  how can I speed it up again?
[09:46] <tik> TheEskimo: on allthe computers i have worked on its ben escape
[09:46] <AshDragon> thanks ^^
[09:46] <TheEskimo> gogu: Try escape, yes. I forgot to mention that one. Thank you tik :)
[09:46] <oddtod> red2kic: yeah still certain apps are needed can't leave the beast completely. everything pales in comparison
[09:47] <gabriele> TheEskimo where I can find alog file
[09:47] <TheEskimo> tik: I am biased by my experience with gigabyte mobos where it is delete usually
[09:47] <oddtod> rad2kic: compared to photoshop that is
[09:47] <tik> hehe
[09:47] <tik> I fix alot of computers
[09:47] <TheEskimo> gabriele: /var/logs
[09:47] <Gogu> TheEskimo It did not work. i tried Escape. Few lines about bios came
[09:47] <TheEskimo> tik: I defer you your experience
[09:47] <gabriele> and then?
[09:47] <TheEskimo> Gogu: Can you navigate options there? is there a boot order?
[09:47] <tik> hehe
[09:48] <tik> im off too ed
[09:48] <tik> bed rather
[09:48] <TheEskimo> gabriele: If you can find the error that would be useful. To be honest I think someone else should help you. I'm not sure I know enough about what's happening with your system to help.
[09:48] <Gogu> TheEskimo No. it is running grub after that
[09:48] <TheEskimo> gogu: what computer do you have?
[09:48] <tik> never got my question answered... oh wel
[09:48] <tik> been fun
[09:48] <sandking> hi
[09:48] <sandking> i launched lxde environment by curiosity and now i login back into to gnome to realize that my file/ app associations are gone (avi, mp3s)
[09:48] <TheEskimo> Gogu: Do you know the model/etc?
[09:48] <TheEskimo> tik: what was your question?
[09:49] <Gogu> TheEskimo Compaq C700
[09:49] <sandking> and when i want to select preffered app i don't see any :/
[09:49] <tik> just a program that does watermarks for videos console or gui
[09:49] <gabriele> TheEskimo I find the file bootstrap.log can it help you?
[09:49] <tik> gues ill just install vbox and do it in windows
[09:49] <TheEskimo> gabriele: I think i'm over my head.
[09:49] <tik> Gogu: 1 secod
[09:49] <Gogu> TheEskimo sure
[09:50] <tik> I think you might have to see the boot order in bios and have your cd-rom be the first option
[09:50] <TheEskimo> gogu: try the f1 key
[09:50] <RandyRKelly> Should I be on sp3 before loading 10.4?
[09:50] <TheEskimo> gogu: or the f10 key
[09:50] <Gogu> TheEskimo will try now
[09:50] <tik> RandyRKelly: doesnt matte
[09:50] <tik> r
[09:50] <Gogu> TheEskimo ok
[09:50] <RandyRKelly> Well I'm having freezing issues
[09:51] <RandyRKelly> Mouse r nothing would
[09:51] <TheEskimo> Gogu: Actually, you can just press both (not just once, contune to press them until the bios setup screen appears or grub appears) and not have to know which it is exactly.
[09:51] <tik> did you burn at a slow speed and check your cd-rom and the md5sum ?
[09:51] <RandyRKelly> Yes I did
[09:51] <RandyRKelly> Maybe bad?
[09:52] <tik> maybe
[09:52] <tik> I burnt to a cd-r twice and i was bad each tie I had to use a dvd at slow speeds
[09:52] <tik> cause the cdr would freeze up ubuntu and cause crashes
[09:52] <tik> I dropped into console and sw I/O errors
[09:52] <TheEskimo> RandyRKelly: You can usually verify after burning
[09:52] <tik> saw
[09:52] <tik> yeah
[09:53] <RandyRKelly> Mmmmm well I don't have any DVD disk
[09:53] <tik> I did afterwards and it had 1 rror
[09:53] <tik> just makesure you burn at the slow speed pos.
[09:53] <RandyRKelly> How I.verify
[09:53] <tik> uhm
[09:53] <tik> when it boots up hit f6 i think it was
[09:53] <tik> and then choose verify cd
[09:53] <RandyRKelly> Ok
[09:53] <TheEskimo> RandyRKelly: It depends what program. It is an option some programs have. Also, you can test the cd on boot through the interface instead of install
[09:54] <RandyRKelly> Cook
[09:54] <mExIoUs> hi all, linux n00b here, i have built an ubuntu 10.0 server and recently added some packages and since then i keep getting this message as it hangs at startup "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" can somone please help to fix?
[09:54] <RandyRKelly> Oook
[09:54] <st__> hi is 10.04.1 out yet?
[09:54] <Gogu> TheEskimo I got into BIOS set up. I found booting with CD-Rom is already enabled and listed first. Then grub ran.
[09:54] <tik> don't think so
[09:54] <tik> I am not updating until 10.10 ayway :P
[09:55] <Rosbuntu> hey my ubuntu 10.04 goes black sometimes and never come back untill i restart by pressing the CPU reset Button.. how to solve this problem tell me
[09:55] <TheEskimo> Gogu: That is interesting. You are sure it was above booting with harddrive?
[09:55] <tik> Gogu: if you have 2 cd-rom drives make sure its in the op one
[09:55] <tik> top
[09:55] <TheEskimo> Gogu: yes. If you have more than 1 cd rom drive to try it in the other one
[09:55] <Gogu> TheEskimo I only have one CD driive
[09:56] <tik> hmm
[09:56] <tik> and you can't get into "boot menu" ?
[09:56] <tik> but you can get into bios?
[09:56] <abhijit> hello!!! Its raining here!!! Mansoon! :D
[09:57] <TheEskimo> gogu: you should go to boot > boot device prioriety > . What does it show?
[09:57] <Gogu> TheEskimo wil try again to see
[09:58] <TheEskimo> Thank you gogu: Also, you are certian it is a bootable ubuntu disk?
[09:59] <tik> Gogu: If your Presario is like mine F10 right after you turn on the computer will start in the BIOS screen. You then use the arrow key to move from Main to Boot. You then use the arrow key to select the CD drive then you use the + key to move the CD drive to the top of the list. F10 will then save your changes to the BIOS it will then Boot from the CD drive
[09:59] <TheEskimo> tik: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=bph07110&product=3466273&printable=yes#N1898
[09:59] <blink> i have a broken package error. what can i do?
[09:59] <TheEskimo> tik: that is for his computer I believe
[09:59] <tik> so is what I just posted
[09:59] <tik> :P
[10:00] <TheEskimo> tik: you are correct of course.
[10:00] <Gogu> TheEskimo Tik, I find USB Floppy is on top followed by CD drive in the Boot ORder list.
[10:00] <tik> TheEskimo: i like you.
[10:00] <tik> Gogu: put cd drive irst
[10:00] <TheEskimo> gogu: for our peace of mind can you raise cd to the top?
[10:00] <tik> haha
[10:01] <mExIoUs> wandering if somone could please help i am getting this error "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" and the system hangs at boot. am running ubuntu server 10.0
[10:01] <tik> mExIoUs: whatdid you install?
[10:01] <Gogu> TheEskimo Tik, I did
[10:01] <TheEskimo> gogu: you hit f10 and saved?
[10:01] <tik> does it boot from livecd now?
[10:01] <mExIoUs> installed mythtv backend was the most recent
[10:01] <Gogu> TheEskimo yes
[10:02] <mExIoUs> it has been working fine, just today decided to do this to me
[10:02] <tik> remove it and reboot and see if it helps
[10:02] <TheEskimo> Gogu: Now if it does not boot from the live cd we must bring into question the cd. Does it boot from it?
[10:02] <Gogu> TheEskimo it is not booting from CD
[10:03] <tik> hmmm
[10:03] <TheEskimo> Gogu: do you have another computer you can test the disk on to make sure it can boot? I suspect it is faulty
[10:03] <TheEskimo> Better yet, have you used it before and how long ago?
[10:03] <mExIoUs> tik: how do i remove it i cant even get it to boot, it just hangs with that error
[10:04] <nickjohnson> Can anyone suggest why ivman might've stopped detecting when I insert a DVD after I upgraded to 10.4?
[10:04] <Gogu> TheEskimo Will try and get back
[10:04] <TheEskimo> mExIoUs: You should be able to use the recovery option in grub, yes?
[10:04] <TheEskimo> Gogu: okay. Best of luck.
[10:04] <mExIoUs> i can boot from the cd and access recovery
[10:05] <nickjohnson> Or how I can debug hal events?
[10:06] <mExIoUs> the other recent thing i did was configure eth0 from webmin for static ip rather than dhcp as it has been using
[10:06] <tik> TheEskimo: you really hav your work cut out for you in here :P
[10:06] <erUSUL> !webmin
[10:06] <tik> mExIoUs: that might be the problem
[10:06] <TheEskimo> tik: back. was afk for a sec
[10:07] <tik> TheEskimo: didn't notice
[10:07] <mExIoUs> aahha ok, so is there some way i can get the system too boot lol and fix the problem that has been caused
[10:07] <ManDay> Where do I put commands which are supposed to be executed right after the booting has finished?!
[10:07] <ManDay> in /etc/init/ ?
[10:07] <tik> um
[10:08] <tik> you add a script to init/d yes
[10:08] <TheEskimo> ManDay /etc/init.d/
[10:08] <tik> init.d
[10:08] <rav014> is it possible to change the login screen?
[10:08] <TheEskimo> rav014: Yes
[10:08] <ManDay> but that would be SystemV init not the new grandiose upstrart, eh?
[10:08] <ManDay> and then id also have to supply a complete script, eh?
[10:08] <tik> ManDay: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[10:08] <mExIoUs> ok, so boot from the install cd and access recovery and then edit init.d
[10:09] <ManDay> tik: I DONT want to add a startup script - just a SINGLE command
[10:09] <ManDay> no daemon
[10:09] <tik> i know
[10:09] <ManDay> nothing like that, a SIMPLE PLAIN command
[10:09] <llutz> ManDay: /etc/rc.local
[10:09] <tik> #1/bin/bash
[10:09] <tik> #!
[10:09] <tik> sudo ls
[10:09] <TheEskimo> mExIoUs: /etc/init.d/networking might need to be edited to fix it
[10:09] <tik> thats al a script is
[10:09] <ManDay> llutz: fair enough
[10:09] <erUSUL> ManDay: /etc/rc.local just before the "exit 0" line
[10:09] <mExIoUs> thanks tik
[10:09] <ManDay> erUSUL: equally fair
[10:09] <ManDay> thanks
[10:09] <llutz> ManDay: should work with upstart too
[10:10] <tik> either way.. meg :)
[10:10] <tik> meh
[10:10] <ManDay> can someone tell me what all the rc....d things are? I think this was all SystemV ?!ß
[10:10] <ManDay> why is it in ubuntu?
[10:10] <ManDay> tik thanks :P
[10:10] <tik> np
[10:11] <ncurses> hey guys... im a noob on this irc thing and of course on ubuntu...i do have a question... what do you guys recommend on using firewall on ubuntu? im currently using firestarter but i want a little more versatile and of functionsmuch more like i do have control on everything and lot
[10:11] <ncurses> of functions...
[10:11] <Kwpolska> ncurses: do not use firewall.
[10:12] <TheEskimo> ncurses: You can use many things. iptables if needed. But you don't raelly need one usually
[10:12] <ncurses> @Kwpolska why?
[10:12] <ncurses> because ubuntu is safe when used on internet?
[10:13] <llutz> ncurses: just make sure that no unwanted services are running and the needed things are well configured and kept actual
[10:13] <Kwpolska> ncurses: on irc we do use Kwpolska: rather than @Kwpolska.
[10:14] <Kwpolska> @ is reserved for ops, but not used when hilighting someone.
[10:14] <ncurses> @TheEskimo sorry im not used on iptables... i was using freebsd on most servers. but whoa... i love ubuntu on my laptop...
[10:14] <TheEskimo> ncurses: It is a good tool to get used to. Good luck!
[10:14] <red2kic> Kwpolska: Sometimes people use @Kwpolska (as... to Kwpolska or at Kwpolska)
[10:14] <poopsmith> boobs
[10:15] <ncurses> =)
[10:15] <Kwpolska> red2kic: But this shall not be used. Just sounds bad with @ at non-ops.
[10:15] <red2kic> Kwpolska: It all depends on how the newcomers see the client.
[10:15] <ncurses> oopps sorry for the @... =)
[10:16] <red2kic> ncurses: You can use tabs. Try type "red2" then press tab.
[10:16] <ncurses> im using xchat
[10:16] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what rcS.d is and why we have 6 rc.d directories although ubuntu doesnt know runlevels?!
[10:16] <ncurses> thanks for that... i guess im really a newbie on these irc client thing
[10:17] <ncurses> :)
[10:17] <ManDay> ncurses: you only need to know one thing about irc
[10:17] <RandyRKelly> Were can I get 9.10
[10:17] <ManDay> its is evil
[10:17] <iceroot> ManDay: for compatibility, rcS.d is holding the (S)tart scripts
[10:17] <ncurses> ManDay, lol
[10:17] <ManDay> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=download+ubuntu+9.10&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[10:17] <ManDay> @ RandyRKelly
[10:17] <RandyRKelly> Thank
[10:18] <ManDay> yw
[10:18] <ManDay> iceroot: what compatibility?
[10:18] <iceroot> ManDay: to packages like apache and so on
[10:18] <ManDay> for packages which are not packed for ubuntu or what? iceroot
[10:18] <iceroot> ManDay: so you dont have to patch all packages because the go into different run-level-directorys
[10:18] <ManDay> hm
[10:19] <ManDay> and natively rcS.d is executed for every Runlevel?
[10:19] <iceroot> ManDay: also its part of LSB
[10:19] <ManDay> as if ubuntu cared
[10:19] <iceroot> ManDay: you want to flame?
[10:19] <ManDay> no just kidding
[10:19] <ManDay> sorry
[10:20] <rav014> man i cant change the login screen
[10:21] <rav014> ive downloaded lots of login screen
[10:21] <rav014> but still i cant
[10:21] <oCean_> rav014: see here http://somedom.com/?p=21
[10:21] <TheEskimo> rav014: There are many tutorials on ubuntuforums too if you would like to look there.
[10:23] <cjae> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found    fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdh1
[10:23] <cjae> ntfs progs?
[10:23] <rav014> oCean: TheEskimo: thanks
[10:24] <ngirard> Hi all. How can I switch from openjdk java to Sun java ?
[10:24] <ngirard> (both are already installed)
[10:24] <ke_> 大家好
[10:25] <oCean_> !cn | ke_
[10:25] <ncurses> hey guys one more noob question from me... i am used on freebsd make install clean cmd when installing packages on cmd line. my problems is does ubuntu automatically fetch and shows me what to install?it's just that if i want to install, for example apache w/ ssl, etc on ubuntu or any linux i need to know the exact addon's so that i can install it??? am i missing something? by the way, im talking about using the server install. well if theres GUI i know
[10:25] <ncurses> its not that hard.
[10:25] <llutz> ngirard: sudo update-alternatives
[10:25] <ke_> i am sorry
[10:25] <Rosbuntu> hey i hav installed vlc player and emesene in my ubuntu where can i get those installer files in ubuntu becoz i wanna copy then for the next install..
[10:25] <tomasz> jest ktoś z Polski
[10:25] <oCean_> !pl | tomasz
[10:26] <ke_p> goodbye
[10:26] <ngirard> llutz: oh yeah, that's right, thanks
[10:26] <tomasz> dzięki
[10:26] <RandyRKelly> Ok which version install I need for my alienware laptop. I want 9.10
[10:26] <erUSUL> ncurses: use aptitude curses gui. or the various commands for searching showing package info
[10:27] <guest1> rosbuntu maybe it's better to have /home folder on a separate partition to save the preferences for the next install
[10:27] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: why not 10.04?
[10:27] <Rosbuntu> guest1 actually i install them by terminal .. so can i have those installer file in my pc?
[10:27] <ncurses> erUSUL, thanks ill try that... =)
[10:27] <RandyRKelly> Having issues with it right now jaso
[10:28] <erUSUL> !info apache2
[10:28] <guest1> rosubuntu deb?
[10:28] <ibrahim> I have hp - dv6 1045ee I need a modem driver for this laptop, ubutnu 10.04
[10:28] <RandyRKelly> Ill go back to it jasonwryan
[10:28] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: I'd always stick with the current release, unless it was _really_ broken for you...
[10:29] <RandyRKelly> It iis 910 was great
[10:29] <guest1> rosubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118264
[10:29] <cjae> so fsck /dev/sdh1  and fsck.ntfs not found
[10:29] <RandyRKelly> Just a bug but may be a bad dl jasonwryan
[10:29] <iceman_3233> Synaptic Vuze 4.3. Any way to add it to source? Running 10.10  2.6.35-12-generic.
[10:30] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: what sort of issues?
[10:30] <iceman_3233> To 4.4?
[10:30] <erUSUL> cjae: install ntfsprogs but ... to check a ntfs partition is better to use the windows tools
[10:30] <RandyRKelly> Which version u think I need for my alien jasonwryan
[10:30] <guest1> rosubuntu RUSubuntu?
[10:30] <RandyRKelly> It freezes after a few and want install drivers r nothin
[10:30] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: Like I said, I'd go with 10.04...
[10:30] <cjae> erUSUL: says its installed
[10:30] <ibrahim> I am having problems with 10.04
[10:31] <cjae> erUSUL: no product key
[10:31] <ibrahim> I am having problems with 10.04 random freezing !! a lot of it
[10:31] <RandyRKelly> I'm on 10:4 but can't use ill downgrade and re upgrade
[10:32] <gafoorgk> can anyone help me setting up a live audio streaming server
[10:32] <erUSUL> cjae: ntfsprogs has ntfsfix is the closest thing to a fsck linux have afaik
[10:33] <ncurses> gafoorgk, theres a sorftware for it
[10:34] <ncurses> you just need to install LAMP first and install the addon software
[10:34] <RandyRKelly> jasonwryan: what u think
[10:34] <cjae> erUSUL: hmmm, kde partition manager has a check that seems to be working, wonder why fsck will not load
[10:35] <ncurses> try jinxora
[10:35] <ncurses> jinzora*
[10:35] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: you need to say what the problem is... otherwise I am just guessing
[10:35] <RandyRKelly> I.did day already
[10:36] <leenuks> i have an issue. a couple of weeks ago i tried burning a multi-session dvd+r by dragging files on top of it, selecting "burn", and checking the multi-session box in the properties menu. now i'm looking and "properties" doesn't have that option anymore. any clue why?
[10:36] <ncurses> leenuks, try launching the application using the cmd line
[10:36] <ncurses> and using su -
[10:37] <RandyRKelly> My issue is I can't install my driver for widow modem. Will freeze. After five min. Acanthus use key oars r mouse
[10:37] <RandyRKelly> Can't
[10:37] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: as far as I can see, you said you can't use it - not _why_ you can't...
[10:37] <leenuks> ncurses, i didn't use any app.
[10:37] <Migi32> hey everyone. I didn't know what channel to ask, but does anyone know software to print labels (you know, with barcodes etc) on pre-cut 50-labels-on-1-page paper?
[10:38] <chrislabeard> Hey guys are there any good guides to install phpmyadmin?
[10:38] <RandyRKelly> Yeah it freezes and can't go online
[10:38] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: OK: you can't install a driver for a windows modem?
[10:38] <ncurses> leenuks, just a cmdline? well try
[10:38] <ibrahim> chrislabeard: What os Are you using ?
[10:38] <RandyRKelly> I'm new to this
[10:38] <ncurses> to change previliege
[10:38] <chrislabeard> Linux
[10:38] <RandyRKelly> No like I said freezes
[10:38] <Kwpolska> chrislabeard: use the package named phpmyadmin
[10:39] <oCean_> chrislabeard: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin should be enough (if you did the LAMP packages already)
[10:39] <Kwpolska> ibrahim: this is #ubuntu, so...
[10:39] <guest> chrislabeard search youtube video
[10:39] <RandyRKelly> So I wanna downgrade to what I know works
[10:39] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: why do you need a windows modem?
[10:39] <tik> oCean_: nah it installs to /etc
[10:39] <RandyRKelly> Then upgrade
[10:39] <chrislabeard> alright
[10:39] <tik> you have to move it to /var/www
[10:39] <ibrahim> chrislabeard: from synaptic package manager choose phpmyadmin mark and install
[10:39] <ncurses> ibrahim, =) ubuntu...
[10:39] <oCean_> tik: "have to" ?
[10:39] <RandyRKelly> I have a microsoft wireless card
[10:39] <tik> how else can you access it
[10:40] <tik> I cp'd it myself
[10:40] <oCean_> tik: don't talk nonsense
[10:40] <tik> haha
[10:40] <jasonwryan> RandyRKelly: I'm sorry to hear that :)
[10:40] <tik> pcean: you will see
[10:40] <RandyRKelly> I'm using droid ass wifi source
[10:40] <RandyRKelly> So I think my disk has a error
[10:40] <tik> RandyRKelly: did you reboot and check it?
[10:41] <tik> ot usually says how many errors
[10:41] <RandyRKelly> How can I install via usb ?
[10:41] <tik> there is no questin
[10:41] <tik> ok
[10:41] <tik> simple
[10:41] <FloodBot1> tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <RandyRKelly> Well I'm pdating the windows side right now
[10:41] <RandyRKelly> Do I need the disk in
[10:41] <ibrahim> ncurses: yes I am using ubutnu
[10:41] <tik> download the iso and use usb creator or whaever it is to create a bootable USB dive :)
[10:41] <RandyRKelly> Tik
[10:41] <tik> from the livcd
[10:41] <ncurses> ibrahim, great
[10:42] <tik> oh
[10:42] <bareego> maybe slightly offtopic, does anyone know if mplayer packages for older versions have been updated with x264 support ?
[10:42] <Rosbuntu> i am using ubuntu and going back to windows
[10:42] <Rosbuntu> LoL becoz i have some problem in ubuntu
[10:42] <Rosbuntu> :(
[10:42] <tik> hmmm
[10:42] <oCean_> tik: stop hitting enter all the time, try to form complete sentences
[10:42] <tik> sorry habit
[10:42] <ncurses> RandyRKelly, try to use unetbootin
[10:42] <RandyRKelly> Who ever uses fredaro?
[10:43] <RandyRKelly> ? Ncurse
[10:43] <tik> Randy: best bet if to boot off the liveCD and use usb startup creator
[10:43] <RandyRKelly> Ok
[10:43] <tik> after dl'ing the iso
[10:43] <RandyRKelly> Once the window side finish
[10:43] <guest> rosubuntu: you will return -- believe it
[10:43] <ncurses> if you use usb to boot any linux try unetbootin
[10:43] <ibrahim> ncurses: are you using the new lucid ? 10.04 ?
[10:44] <tik> ncurses: ubuntu makes a progr just for that purpose
[10:44] <yariv> Can any one explain to me why 10.04 is slow sluggish lately with all the updates?
[10:44] <tik> "startup disk creator" under sytem admin.
[10:44] <ibrahim> yariv: the update manager is causing many problems !!
[10:44] <ncurses> ibrahim, nope the 9.10 but im currently upgrading to 10.xx and gives me a hell of time downloading it...
[10:44] <oCean_> ibrahim: what?
[10:45] <clint-> dang
[10:45] <ibrahim> ncurses: I am having many problems with it.
[10:45] <oCean_> yariv: I run 10.04, latest updates. Still as snappy as it ever was
[10:45] <clint-> 1395! :P
[10:45] <oCean_> clint-: is that a question?
[10:45] <yariv> yeah, it caused my system to become unstable and freeze for a couple of seconds every few minutes
[10:45] <ibrahim> oCean_: the update manager in 10.04 is causing problems failed always.
[10:45] <ncurses> tik, ooops as i said im a noob on ubuntu... =)
[10:45] <camille> bj
[10:45] <ibrahim> yariv: yes me too.
[10:46] <oCean_> ibrahim: generally no problems, so don't tell nonsense in the channel
[10:46] <ibrahim> oCean_: okay,, I want to solve my problems :(
[10:46] <ncurses> ibrahim, what system are you using? probably its not supported? lol
[10:47] <daniel_tree> flash quality is not really good..even in HD...(watching youtube) ..and the sound misses something...I mean..they work...are satisfying..but there is something missing..I know my machine can do better...dono if it's a problem..or this is just the way it is..on opensuse I had better audio quality..and video too...maybe I didnt setup right...any ideas ???
[10:47] <ncurses> i mean some...
[10:47] <ibrahim> ncurses: I am using 10.04 Lucid Lynx,, gave up windows a year ago
[10:47] <hasenj> I was experimenting with a bunch of window managers
[10:47] <hasenj> and one of them caused me to lose my systray icons
[10:47] <hasenj> any way to restore that?
[10:47] <hasenj> without logging out?
[10:47] <mExIoUs> ok well had a break now i am back to it, have managed to boot a recovery console so i can edit stuff. what should be the next step? still getting this error networking main process (631) terminated with status 1
[10:48] <clint-> later all! have an awesome weekend!
[10:48] <ncurses> oh i see... so its wokring fine on 9.10 but sluggish on 10.xx?
[10:48] <trijntje> Hi all, is there a way to make a backup of all my hotmail-emails without sending them to another acount? Just put te emails in some sort of archive on my pc?
[10:48] <tik> hasenj: yes but I don't kow the command to display
[10:48] <tik> maybe ocean migt
[10:48]  * clint- is going to sleep like a geeko
[10:48] <tik> might*
[10:49] <RandyRKelly> Gonna make another disk
[10:49] <ibrahim> ncurses: 9.10 Karmic was great with me, but now I am having some problems and still trying to solve because I will not be using windows anymore
[10:49] <Migi32> hey does anyone know open source software to print labels (with barcodes) on paper?
[10:49] <tik> ill scrollz up and see ifI can find it 1 sec
[10:49] <daniel_tree> trijntje, use evolution or thunderbird...and save them to an archive
[10:49] <ibrahim> ncurses: some problems after upgrading to 10.4
[10:49] <xsaiddx> hello guys jst got fesh install of lubuntu but i dont have the the lubuntu repo
[10:49] <xsaiddx> can someone link me to some wiki to do it
[10:50] <tik> no, to much scroll
[10:50] <hasenj> interesting, all I had to do was add the systray to the panel! (xfce)
[10:50] <ibrahim> xsaiddx: what is ubuntu repo ?
[10:50] <ncurses> ibrahim, have you tried looking for event logs? or even dmsg?
[10:50] <trijntje> daniel_tree, isnt it impossible to connect to a hotmail account without using the web interface?
[10:50] <ibrahim> ncurses: No !
[10:50] <tik> yes, they enabled POP3
[10:50] <oCean_> Migi32: there is glabels and kbarcode in the repositories (never used either of them, though)
[10:51] <tik> er trijntje
[10:51] <daniel_tree> trijntje, it is ....use mozilla thunderbird...to manage your emails
[10:51] <ibrahim> ncurses:  how to do this ?
[10:51] <xsaiddx> ibrahim, salam i have main resticted ,partner,main
[10:51] <xsaiddx> but not the launpad/lubuntu one
[10:51] <Migi32> ok thanks oCean_ I'll check em out
[10:51] <daniel_tree> trijntje, for hotmail the pop3 is "pop3.live.com" and the smtp is "smtp.live.com"
[10:51] <ibrahim> xsaiddx: Ah okay sorry I can't help.
[10:52] <CppIsWeird> every time i go to a new webpage, i get about a 30 second lag. any time i go to that page afterwards, everything is instant. i've changed my dns servers to three different servers (isp, 4.4.4.4, and opendns) all with the same result.
[10:52] <CppIsWeird> i should say domain instead of webpage
[10:52] <trijntje> daniel_tree, tik, thanks a lot, I alway thought that was impossible!
[10:52] <xsaiddx> ibrahim, its ok shokran : )
[10:52] <ibrahim> oCean_: can you help with nvidia drivers please ?
[10:52] <ncurses> ibrahim, try digging for /var/logs and issue dmesg on the prompt
[10:53] <daniel_tree> trijntje, with yahoo you have to have yahoo plus to do that...but for hotmail..works :)
[10:53] <oCean_> ibrahim: If I could, I would. I have no experience in using nvidia hardware whatsoever
[10:53] <trijntje> CppIsWeird, maybe its ipv6 related? That solved a similar problem for me with firefox
[10:53] <ncurses> CppIsWeird, your internet connection is your problem
[10:53] <ibrahim> oCean_: it's okay thnx anyway , this is the issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532847
[10:54] <ncurses> BRB guys...
[10:54] <ibrahim> ncurses: what should I do with all this information ?
[10:54] <mExIoUs> can anyone help please wtih this error "networking main process (631) terminated with status 1" system just halts after boot with this error kinda lost >.<
[10:55] <daniel_tree> can anyone help me improve the video quality ?
[10:56] <oCean_> ibrahim: what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current output?
[10:56] <ibrahim> oCean_: dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current ..... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[10:56] <oCean_> ibrahim: start with sudo
[10:56] <ibrahim> oCean_: sorry i dont know what does it mean.
[10:57] <ibrahim> oCean_: ah okay
[10:57] <oCean_> ibrahim: start the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ...'
[10:58] <ibrahim> oCean_: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nvidia-current is broken or not fully installed
[10:58] <chrislabeard> When setting permissions on a directory who does it need to be owned by for the server to write to it?
[10:59] <oCean_> ibrahim: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"
[11:00] <ibrahim> oCean_: i have to use them serperated right ? first :  "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current" and second "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"
[11:00] <oCean_> chrislabeard: should be owned by the user running that specific process. (for example apache webserver runs user www-data)
[11:00] <oCean_> ibrahim: no, it's one single command
[11:01] <oCean_> ibrahim: but you *coud* separate them, up to you
[11:01] <oCean_> could
[11:01] <chrislabeard> oCean_: The directory says its owned by my admin user name "beard' but it still won't allow the server to write to it when trying to install
[11:01] <oCean_> chrislabeard: what install are we talking about?
[11:02] <chrislabeard> oCean_: Well its wordpress
[11:02] <ibrahim> oCean_: after using them serperated i got this for the first one now i using both at the same time E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:02] <oCean_> chrislabeard: wp is installed through webserver, so the directory where you want to install wp (e.g. /var/www/wordpress) should be owned by www-data, since apache runs under that user
[11:03] <chrislabeard> Alright
[11:03] <chrislabeard> What group would that be
[11:03] <oCean_> ibrahim: nvm, then the combined commands won't work either
[11:03] <oCean_> chrislabeard: same
[11:03] <ibrahim> oCean_: the same result after using both ! still getting the error message yes
[11:04] <oCean_> ibrahim: is that single line all of the error message, or is there more? If it is multiple lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[11:05] <ibrahim> oCean_: done . please visit http://paste.ubuntu.com/471421/
[11:07] <chrislabeard> oCean_: is this wrong ? - chown -R www-data wwmcd
[11:07] <chrislabeard> It keeps saying --- chown: www-data: Invalid argument
[11:08] <NeverCast> chrislabeard, what are you trying to do?
[11:08] <chrislabeard> NeverCast: I'm trying to use this for a test server so I need to be able to upload directories and allow my server to write to them.
[11:08] <oCean_> chrislabeard: should be ok if wwmcd is your wp directory, I would do: "chown -R www-data:www-data wpdir/"
[11:08] <NeverCast> chrislabeard, try chown -R www-data; chown -R wwmcd
[11:09] <NeverCast> oCean_, wait what? educate me?
[11:09] <NeverCast> Oh wait
[11:09] <NeverCast> never mind
[11:09] <NeverCast> lol.
[11:09] <NeverCast> worked it otu
[11:09] <FloodBot1> NeverCast: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <tyler82> hi
[11:09] <tik> hi
[11:09] <tyler82> i need some help
[11:09] <tyler82> i am beginner in ubuntu 10.04
[11:09] <oracle_> ?
[11:09] <chrislabeard> Keeps telling me invalid argument
[11:09] <oracle_> ok,go on
[11:10] <oCean_> ibrahim: problem is in the "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error" line. And I really don't know how to get rid of that
[11:10] <oCean_> oracle_: what is your question?
[11:10] <tyler82> i have installed weather forecast program form synaptic
[11:10] <chrislabeard> oCean_ can I not go and change the username for the apache user?
[11:10] <tyler82> but i don't know how need to run?
[11:10] <phong_> Help me, my sound doesn't work
[11:10] <phong_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1541943
[11:11] <tik> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data wwmcd
[11:11] <aa__> hello everyone
[11:11] <chrislabeard> Still not working
[11:11] <oracle_> hello
[11:11] <chrislabeard> invalid argument
[11:11] <oCean_> chrislabeard: better not. There is a apache module which will let you run various vhosts under various users, that's a bit complicated. After the chown as I showed, it should work.
[11:11] <aa__> im having awfull issues dual booting ubuntu and windows (any version) could anyone help me out?
[11:11] <tik> what user need read and write access?
[11:11] <oCean_> chrislabeard: what does "lsb_release -a" output?
[11:11] <Xonnie316> hey everyone
[11:11] <Shine-neko> Habou :p
[11:11] <Xonnie316> nice to find a Ubuntu chat room
[11:12] <ibrahim> oCean_: thank you anyway :) i will see what i can do
[11:12] <erUSUL> aa__: if you do not describe that "awfull issues" you wont get any help
[11:12] <Shine-neko> Dites comment on fait pour reparer une patition corrompu en ext3
[11:12] <erUSUL> !ask | aa__
[11:12] <oCean_> Xonnie316: this is technical support only. Social chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <tik> Xonnie316: not much cheat here.. mostly questions
[11:12] <tik> chat
[11:12] <erUSUL> !fr | Shine-neko
[11:12] <aa__> mmmm noone?
[11:12] <Xonnie316> I've got 2 issues I wish I can get help please
[11:12] <erUSUL> !ask | Xonnie316
[11:12] <oCean_> ibrahim: ok. That line that I showed you is your issue, so you should search for a solution for that.. (just a hint)
[11:13] <ibrahim> oCean_: can that link describe my problem ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/471421/
[11:13] <chrislabeard> oCean_: Just a second
[11:13] <Xonnie316> Hey guys,
[11:13] <Xonnie316> I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my Samsung LCD TV.
[11:13] <Xonnie316> I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound
[11:13] <Xonnie316> I've changed it to every sound device:
[11:13] <Xonnie316> Analog Stereo Input
[11:13] <FloodBot1> Xonnie316: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <guest> aa_ ?
[11:13] <aa__> i'm having problems dual booting ubuntu 10.04 with any version of windows
[11:13] <oCean_> ibrahim: yes, you can update your forumpost by referring to this pastebin output
[11:14] <guest> aa_ what kind of problems?
[11:15] <aa__> i'm unable to mount myntfs partition
[11:15] <tik> aa: which did you install first? :)
[11:15] <aa__> windows then ubuntu
[11:15] <Xonnie316> Hey guys, I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my SAMSUNG LCD TV. I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound, then I've chosen each and every option. It still won't come up with any audio.
[11:15] <Xonnie316> Any suggestions please?
[11:15] <aa__> i can't say for sure what the problem is
[11:15] <aa__> since after intrepid ibex i stopped dual booting lol
[11:15] <tik> aa:sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdsomething /mount
[11:15] <aa__> only ubuntu so i really can't say
[11:15] <aa__> yes that works
[11:15] <aa__> i try either that or ntfs-config
[11:15] <tyler82> how can i run widget plasma forecast program in ubuntu?
[11:16] <aa__> but after that if i try to boot my vista partition
[11:16] <aa__> it just won't boot
[11:16] <aa__> it will go to vista loading
[11:16] <tyler82> i've installed form symbian
[11:16] <aa__> and restart
[11:16] <FloodBot1> aa__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <tik> try installingwindows first
[11:16] <tik> idk couln' say
[11:16] <oCean_> chrislabeard: I asked because "invalid argument" is not a chown error msg from ubuntu. It would say "no such user"
[11:16] <aa__> i did install windows first
[11:16] <gafoorgk> anyone can help me with setting up a live audio streaming linux server ?!
[11:16] <chrislabeard> oCean_: Yeah I lied I'm not in ubuntu
[11:16] <tik> yeah but you overwrote with the boot loader\
[11:17] <aa__> uh?
[11:17] <oCean_> chrislabeard: I figured as much. Good luck
[11:17] <chrislabeard> thanks anyways
[11:17] <tik> when you installed ubuntu
[11:17] <Xonnie316> Hey guys, I'm very new to Linux and most especially Ubuntu. I've recently installed Ubuntu and I've been experiencing no audio on my Asus ION mini PC... I use an HDMI cable to connect to my SAMSUNG LCD TV. I've went to System -> Preferences -> Sound, then I've chosen each and every option. It still won't come up with any audio.
[11:17] <aa__> to be honest i let the installer do everything, i tried like hundreds of times now lol both with desktop and alternate install
[11:17] <aa__> so it would kinda work
[11:18] <tik> google for untu +dual booting +windows
[11:18] <aa__> tried but yet nothing seems to fix my issue
[11:18] <tik> ubuntu
[11:18] <oCean_> tik: don't tell people to go google
[11:18] <aa__> rofl
[11:18] <tik> im not googling fo him
[11:18] <aa__> thats lovely
[11:18] <aa__> but google wouldn't help me i been googling since lucid came out
[11:19] <oCean_> tik: in that case don't start offering help?
[11:19] <aa__> is anyone else able to help me out?
[11:19] <oCean_> aa__: you're very welcome to ask your quesions here. There are not always answers readily available. Just have some patience and try again later.
[11:19] <aa__> of course im not rushing
[11:20] <Xonnie316> are you guys busy at the moment ?
[11:21] <TheBlop> hello im trying to install ubuntu for the first time "currently running livecd" but the HD i wanna install to is missing during the installation process it is how ever shown under "places" any idea what to do?
[11:21] <oCean_> Xonnie316: it's all volunteers here, so we cannot really tell if anyone is available with knowledge of your issue..
[11:22] <Xonnie316> Totally understand
[11:22] <Xonnie316> I've got another issue at the moment
[11:23] <guest> TheBlop because of win programs like Partition Magic
[11:23] <yessir_turan> Hi, I'm on ubunutu 10.04lts.
[11:23] <yessir_turan> Can someone please tell me how to access exchange 2007 using evolution>
[11:23] <Guest20036>  /join #blarg
[11:23] <Xonnie316> I have an Asus ION mini pc, in which I use as an HTPC running XBMC. Its connected to my Samsung LCD TV. And basically since I've installed Ubuntu the past 2 weeks, the screen resolution for some reason isn't right.. Its 2 inches out of the picture on each side… I've went into System -> Administration -> nVidia X Server Settings. But for some reason it would still stay out of the screen… I've also went to System -> Administration
[11:23] <Xonnie316>  -> Hardware Drivers, in which I've uninstalled and re-installed the nVidia Driver. But it would still stay the same…. I've also noticed before Ubuntu loads up it takes a long time to bring up the desktop and it shows an error "nforce2_smbus 0000:00:03.2: error probing SMB1"
[11:24] <tik> did  you run the nvidia conigure app, Xonnie316
[11:24] <tik> oh yes
[11:25] <Xonnie316> tik: I don't think so...
[11:25] <Xonnie316> tik: Do you mean going through Terminal ?
[11:25] <tik> no
[11:25] <TheBlop> nut running windows on any drives :) and i found the solution apparently the dmraid packages is messing with 10.04 to see all my drives :)
[11:25] <tik> you covered it in your post
[11:25] <tik> nvidia x server settings
[11:26] <Xonnie316> yeah i've went through there but not quite sure if I have to do any modifications
[11:26] <Xonnie316> tik: because I only changed screen resolutions basically
[11:27] <guest> TheBlop: when I was making partitions with Acronis then Live CD didn't see HD so I turned everything back with Acronis and made everything with Live CD Gparted
[11:27] <Singo> Xonnie316: Changed the resolution to 1080p?
[11:27] <Xonnie316> Singo: I'll give it a shot lets see
[11:27] <Singo> 1920x1080
[11:28] <abhijit> hellp
[11:28] <abhijit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391
[11:28] <Singo> Xonnie316: Make the position Absolute also
[11:28] <TheBlop> guest1 thanks for the tip, i am going to get started on my installation now! bye
[11:28] <Xonnie316> Singo: it is on 1920 x 1080 ........
[11:28] <Xonnie316> thats how it is at the moment
[11:28] <Xonnie316> and its still having an 2 inches on each side which is not visible
[11:29] <Singo> Setting with the TV maybe? (though I'm sure you've checked that)
[11:29] <Xonnie316> The TV automatically picks it up and adjusts it to 1920 x 1080 ...
[11:30] <Singo> As does mine
[11:30] <Xonnie316> Its strange coz previously I had windows xp and it automatically picks up the screen resolution, and adjusts fine
[11:30] <Xonnie316> then i partitioned and made ubuntu, and its not exactly the whole screen
[11:30] <dark_neo> Is there anyone here who could help me enable remote desktop via terminal?
[11:31] <Singo> Sorry Xonnie316... I'm not sure then :-/
[11:31] <tik> never had any experiance with it sorry
[11:31] <raidel> what is the best screen recorder for xubuntu 10.4
[11:32] <Xonnie316> I know mate its a tricky one ....
[11:33] <raidel> screen cast for xubuntu 10.04 please help meee
[11:34] <jasonwryan> raidel: recordmydesktop
[11:34] <raidel> it dont work
[11:35] <bazhang> !work | raidel
[11:35] <Singo> ^^ lol
[11:36] <no_thanks> Would you guys be able to help me solve my little problem
[11:36] <raidel> like when you try to record and uploud it you youtube it look crap
[11:37] <cast> no_thanks is from the bottom of the world
[11:37] <no_thanks> I've just installed Ubuntu but whenever I load it and log in the login screen disapears but nothing loads and I'm left looking at a background
[11:37] <bazhang> !screencast | raidel try some others
[11:37] <no_thanks> Good old New Zealand!
[11:37] <cast> or the top, depending on your astralplane
[11:37] <Xonnie316> Hi guys I've got another questions, I've got 1 hard drive which is partitioned. 1/2 is windows xp and the other half Ubuntu. Now each time I try boot up it picks up Ubuntu first, is there a way I could change it back to Windows XP ??
[11:37] <no_thanks> how did you know that O.o?
[11:37] <raidel> tanks for your help
[11:37] <cast> Xonnie316: sure, edit your grub config to change the default
[11:39] <no_thanks> it's weird because I can ctrl alt del and bring up the menu but nothing else is on the screen it's as if the dekstop never loaded
[11:39] <Xonnie316> cast: How do I do that exactly ?
[11:39] <Xonnie316> cast: could you please guide me?
[11:39] <raidel> thanks stanbul work
[11:40] <cast> Xonnie316: i could, but i have funner things to do. you open grubs config file in a text editor and change the 'default' line
[11:40] <Lekensteyn> Hi
[11:41] <Xonnie316> Thanks cast, I'll just google it and have save you time for some funner things to do ....
[11:41] <Lekensteyn> Can someone help me with bash?
[11:41] <ibrahim> ubottu: can you help me regarding this issue please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532847
[11:42] <Lekensteyn> I just want to put './somename*.txt' into a variable
[11:42] <Lekensteyn> but it expands to all files in the folder
[11:42] <tik> ibrahim: ill look
[11:43] <tik> in console tye sud apt-get remove vidia-current --purge && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:43] <tik> er
[11:43] <tik> typod
[11:43] <ibrahim> ubottu: thnx in advance
[11:43] <tik> in console tye sud apt-get remove nvidia-current --purge && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:44] <tik> sudo*
[11:44] <ibrahim> tik: thank you.
[11:44] <ibrahim> tik: ok
[11:44] <tik> then reboot ;
[11:44] <tik> ;)
[11:44] <Lekensteyn> tik
[11:44] <Lekensteyn> could you help me? :)
[11:45] <Lekensteyn> I just want to put './name*.txt' in a bash variable, but it expands to all files matching ./name*.txt in the folder
[11:45] <tik> whats ./*.txt
[11:45] <tik> ~/.name*.txt ?
[11:45] <Lekensteyn> I've some files in a file, named like dump-1-2.txt
[11:45] <tik> ooo
[11:46] <Lekensteyn> i might change that to something like name-1-2-date.txt
[11:46] <Lekensteyn> so for flexibility
[11:46] <Lekensteyn> I've put that into a variable
[11:46] <Lekensteyn> it's used for sed
[11:46] <ibrahim> tik:  did not work :( this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/471430/
[11:46] <Lekensteyn> like sed 's/replace/by/g' -i $FILES
[11:46] <cerrie> hello all ... does anyone know of a way to use the iPhone as a webcam on Ubuntu? It can be done on windows but requires drivers only available on windows :O(
[11:47] <tik> why not just do it in GUI with hardwre?
[11:47] <fml-ish> can anyone help me?
[11:47] <bareego> !ask | fml-ish
[11:47] <tik> System / Administration / Hardware Drivers
[11:47] <fml-ish> ops sorry
[11:48] <fml-ish> i am trying to dual boot windows xp with ubuntu (any) lucid lynx but apparently i can't access my xp partition nor it will start, with fedora it worked just fine but now i can't use it
[11:48] <alex_> hi
[11:49] <cerrie> Also if anyone knows of a better suited channel for my questions please say :O)
[11:49] <ibrahim> bareego: can you help me regarding this issue please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532847
[11:49] <alex_> i cant get evolution working with hotmail
[11:49] <tik> fml-ish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[11:50] <ciphersson> Cerrie did you try wine?
[11:50] <fml-ish> tik: thank you i'll give it a look
[11:50] <tik> brahim@ibrahim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-curren typod
[11:50] <Lekensteyn> alex, what error are you getting?
[11:50] <tik> try brahim@ibrahim-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current
 no i did not.. but not a bad idea ! many thanks
[11:50] <ciphersson> worth a shit
[11:50] <alex_> it says it cant connect to the servers
[11:50] <ciphersson> ooops
[11:50] <ciphersson> shot*
[11:51] <FloodBot1> ciphersson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <ciphersson> lol
[11:51] <alex_> i've tried everything
[11:51] <fml-ish> tik: my problem is not listed in there apparently, any other way?
[11:51] <Lekensteyn> What server have you entered?
[11:51] <alex_> pop3.live.com
[11:52] <tik> fml-ish: what does hardware update tell you?
[11:52] <tik> er
[11:52] <tik> hardware drivers
[11:52] <ibrahim> tik: got the same error !!! after using this  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current && sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current
[11:52] <fml-ish> hardware drivers tells me nothing O_O, well except that my nvidia card needs proprietary drivers
[11:52] <fml-ish> which i installed
[11:52] <tik> did you active and reboot?
[11:52] <thune3> Lekensteyn: when i export TEST="*", the variable is actually set to * (env | grep TEST). of course if if use it in a command (echo $TEST) it gets expanded for that command
[11:53] <fml-ish> tik: yes but, do i need drivers to mount a ntfs partition?
[11:53] <Lekensteyn> alex, try the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[11:53] <tik> im confused
[11:53] <alex_> thanks lekensteyn
[11:53] <tik> fml: what wa your original problem?
[11:53] <xsaiddx> hello
[11:53] <xsaiddx> my home is mounted on mtab but not on fstab how can i fix this
[11:54] <tik> fml: the dual booting? or nvidia
[11:54] <fml-ish> tik: i installed windows xp and ubuntu lucid lynx but from ubuntu i cant access my ntfs partition which i need to be accessed
[11:54] <tik> ok
[11:54] <tik> did you read that guide Iposed?
[11:54] <fml-ish> tik : nvidia never been my problem, i said i switched to ubuntu due to fedora's shouting about proprietary software
[11:54] <fml-ish> tik: yes
[11:54] <fml-ish> tik : i followed every step so far
[11:55] <Lekensteyn> xsaiddx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[11:55] <cast> fml-ish: just so i have this right...you switch to ubuntu because it supports proprietary software?
[11:55] <tik> which did you install first
[11:55] <xsaiddx> Lekensteyn, ok tnx
[11:55] <xsaiddx> ill give it a ead
[11:56] <tik> fml-ish: which did you install first ubntu or windows
[11:56] <fml-ish> cast: i switch to ubuntu because it supports my nvidia graphic card drivers without moaning me like fedora does
[11:56] <fml-ish> tik:  windows xp then ubuntu
[11:56] <alket> Is there any software that I can edit masive songs Genre ? Not rythmbox because I don't want to mess my library
[11:56] <drygrain> hm
[11:57] <tik> and which boots
[11:57] <fml-ish> tik: if i force ntfs mount with gparted or ntfs config xp won't mount again, so just ubuntu will
[11:58] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone using Amavisd with Ubunbu 10.10 ? Seems broken
[11:58] <fml-ish> tik: sounds like (paradox) mounting ntfs partition from ubuntu breaks windows O_O
[11:59] <tik> hmm
[11:59] <tik> do ou umount it before reboot?
[11:59] <tik> you
[11:59] <fml-ish> yes
[11:59]  * cast finds life much easier when you avoid proprietary garbage
[11:59] <fml-ish> but isn't that pointless? shouldnt it unmount anyways
[11:59] <tik> yeah
[11:59] <tik> just asking
[12:00] <fml-ish> cast: ok but nouveau doesnt support my card
[12:00] <__AJ> hey guys
[12:00] <__AJ> got a doubt
[12:00] <__AJ> i'm usin a high end laptop
[12:00] <tik> why would you moun with gparted or ntfs config anyway
[12:00] <cast> fml-ish: life is also much easier without crap hardware :)
[12:00] <__AJ> nd i've got ubuntu 10.04
[12:00] <fml-ish> cast: kk i'll write it down
[12:00] <tik> mount*
[12:00] <cast> indeed.
[12:00] <fml-ish> tik: because i can't see the partition in any othe rway
[12:00] <__AJ> how can i utilise my graphic card
[12:01] <__AJ> to its fullest capacity
[12:01] <__AJ> ?
[12:01] <tik> fml-ish: make a note of the /dev/sd whatever for your windows partition
[12:01] <fml-ish> cast: nvidia 8200m G 1GB isnt that crappy tho
[12:01] <fml-ish> tik: what do you mean?
[12:01] <cast> evidently it is if you need to screw around with drivers
[12:02] <ibrahim> I have a problem with nvidia broken package http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532847
[12:02] <tik> do you know what /dev/sd? or hd? your windows partition is on?
[12:02] <fml-ish> tik: sda1
[12:02] <zongo_> Hi Guys, I am trying to configure a PPP connection with 3G usb modem with a static IP address
[12:02] <tik> ok do do this in terminal
[12:02] <fml-ish> cast: that i know only intel cards wouldn't need proprietary drivers
[12:02] <fml-ish> tik: im not on ubuntu now tho =/
[12:02] <tik> sudo mkdir /cdrive
[12:02] <Smashcat> __AJ depends on your graphic card. How do you know it's not already being used "at its fullest capacity"?
[12:02] <zongo_> was wondering if any of you knew the which .conf file would I need to modify
[12:03] <zongo_> in order to have a static IPv4 address
[12:03] <cast> not just intel.
[12:03] <cast> ati and nvidia, too, can run with free drivers
[12:03] <tik> write this down then
[12:03] <tik> sudo mkdir /cdrive
[12:03] <fml-ish> cast: rofl
[12:03] <fml-ish> tik: did it but why? =o
[12:03] <tik> sudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /cdrive
[12:04] <tik> then your windows partition will be in /cdrive
[12:04] <fml-ish> tik: LOL i seen 2 Ds like cddrive
[12:04] <fml-ish> tik: yes yes got u
[12:04] <tik> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /cdrive
[12:04] <fml-ish> tik: tried that too, windows xp wont mount after
[12:04] <tik> wat do you man won't mount
[12:05] <tik> mean
[12:05] <fml-ish> tik: ugh, sleepy i meant it wont boot
[12:05] <fml-ish> tik: sorry for that , been up all night trying to figure out my problem
[12:05] <tik> heh
[12:05] <austin> anyone know an easy way to edit app menu in xubuntu...
[12:06] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, what is your problem again?
[12:06] <tik> what do you man won't boot? you can't select it?
[12:06] <tik> it tries too boot
[12:06] <tik> ?
[12:06] <mkanyicy> austin, what app?
[12:06] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: dual booting ubuntu lucid lynx and windows xp
[12:06] <fml-ish> tik: if i boot windows xp it will go to loading screen and reset my pc
[12:06] <tik> mkanyicy: after he mounts his ntfs partition in ububntu and rebootswindows will not boot
[12:06] <fml-ish> tik: im happy without windows but now is needed ...... sadly -.-
[12:06] <titus> PATHAFRICA2
[12:06] <Smashcat> Anyone know a good alternative to Amavisd-new for postfix? Current version just sits there at 100% cpu load, hanging and losing mail.
[12:06] <tik> fml-ish: yu can look intoother options
[12:06] <austin> i said app for short... the applications menu... i want to remove some programs that are showen
[12:06] <fml-ish> tik: like?
[12:07] <tik> if you have a higher en computer
[12:07] <tik> VM's
[12:07] <fml-ish> tik: my computer is good only to smash people faces
[12:07] <fml-ish> tik: i thought about that it won't be a good choice
[12:07] <tik> why not?
[12:07] <tik> here PM
[12:07] <fml-ish> tik: my cpu would die lol
[12:07] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, did the dual boot ever worked fine in the past?
[12:08] <tik> not so
[12:08] <fml-ish> mkanyicy : first try on this pc but on others i experienced successfull dual boot
[12:08] <raven> ffmpeg command for normalisation?
[12:09] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: a note, successfull dual boot until jaunty
[12:09] <fml-ish> then never tried again
[12:09] <blargg> I installed vsftpd and changed the config file. How do I restart vsftpd so that the new settings take effect?
[12:09] <Tall> Why can not I install BROffice?
[12:10] <blargg> I've tried /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart, which tells me to use the service or restart utility. service vsftpd restart gives some error about Rejected send message.
[12:10] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, so if I understand you correctly. You say the dual boot works until you boot into ubuntu AND then mount the windows partition (ntfs) in ubuntu?
[12:10] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: can i make it simple? my english isnt that great
[12:11] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, yes please.
[12:11] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: 1 i install windows 2 i install ubuntu  3 i realize i can't see my ntfs partition 4 i force its mount 5 i access my partition and just say hi 6 i unmount 7 i restart my computer 8 i choose windows xp from grub 9 my pc restarts with no errors or such
[12:11] <mkanyicy> blargg, what is vsftpd ?
[12:11] <Singo> blargg: sudo restart vsftpd
[12:12] <blargg> Singo, thanks, that worked.
[12:12] <oCean_> Tall: broffice is just a re-branding of openoffice.org right?
[12:12] <thune3> Tall: do you get an error trying to install "broffice.org" package from the universe repository?
[12:12] <blargg> mkanyicy,  very secure FTP daemon
[12:12] <Singo> :-)
[12:12] <Tall> yes
[12:12] <oCean_> !info broffice
[12:13] <raven> ffmpeg command for normalisation?
[12:13] <oCean_> !info broffice.org
[12:13] <blargg> OK, so the "rejected send message" was due to not having high enough privilege. Noted.
[12:13] <oCean_> Tall: what happens when you try to install? Error message?
[12:13] <guest> broffice OVER openoffice?
[12:13] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, when you did step 4 & 5 did you see your windows files?
[12:13] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: yes  it was all regular to be honest
[12:14] <oCean_> guest: it's a trademark issue, broffice is a rebranding
[12:14] <Tall> whait
[12:14] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, can you pastebin your menu.lst file pluts the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and that of 'sudo blkid'
[12:15] <Tall> $ tar xzvf nome da versão baixada .tar.gz
[12:15] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: no, or better yes i could but it would be useless since now im not on ubuntu
[12:15] <Tall>     $ cd nome do arquivo gerado após a descompactação
[12:15] <Tall>     $ cd DEBS
[12:15] <oCean_> Tall: are you using ubuntu? What version?
[12:15] <oCean_> Tall: don't paste here
[12:16] <Tall> Ubunti 10.4
[12:16] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, you are on windows now?
[12:16] <Tall> Ubuntu 10.4
[12:16] <oCean_> Tall: in that case 'sudo apt-get install broffice.org' should do the trick
[12:16] <kyubutsu> !br | Tall
[12:17] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: open suse =/
[12:17] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, on another machine or still this machine?
[12:17] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: still this
[12:18] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, so you are tripple booting?
[12:18] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: dual, i removed ubuntu
[12:18] <Tall> thanks
[12:18] <oCean_> Tall: you're welcome!
[12:18] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: thinking of an installation problem or such, thought that surely redoing from a fresh install with all instructions willl do fine
[12:18] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, well I rest my case
[12:19] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: which means?
[12:19] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, I mean how can this channel help you when you dont even have ubuntu?
[12:19] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: i been doing alot of trying if you have suggestions i can tell you if that worked to me
[12:19] <raidel> ubuntu or xubuntu ?????
[12:21] <kk9822> hi i want to know how to install xulrunner-2.0 for updating firefox
[12:21] <kk9822> can any one help me
[12:22] <kk9822> when i run on synaptic it gives some error
[12:22] <kk9822> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xulrunner-2.0/xulrunner-2.0_2.0~b3~hg20100728r48280+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~lucid_i386.deb
[12:22] <kk9822>   404  Not Found
[12:22] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: should i install ubuntu and come back? possibly Xubuntu due to the fact that i lack i386 ubuntu (and im focusing on 32 bit now)
[12:22] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, yes
[12:23] <kk9822> what is this pl help me
[12:23] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: ouch lol, will this channel be fine with xubuntu? it seems to be a common problem in any version
[12:24] <mkanyicy> fml-ish, yes
[12:24] <fml-ish> mkanyicy: thank you very much, hope to find you on when ill be back (it will be long sigh lol)
[12:24] <bihari> welcome back Dr_Willis
[12:26] <tiq> hello. how do I restart the window manager? the top and bottom taskbars don't respond anymore
[12:26] <oCean_> !resetpanels | tiq, you might want to try this:
[12:26] <tik> brb
[12:27] <tiq> that did it, thanks oCean_
[12:27] <oCean_> tik: no need to announce away/afk/brb
[12:27] <oCean_> tiq: yay :)
[12:27] <kk9822> hi oCean
[12:28] <bihari> welcome back abhinav_singh
[12:28] <kk9822> pl help me with my prob
[12:28] <thune3> kk9822: maybe try running "apt-get update" and try again. I think you just caught that ppa in a transitional state the last time you updated
[12:28] <oCean_> kk9822: seems to be problem with that ppa. However, I don't use it
[12:29] <dustin_> hi
[12:30] <Singo> Hi
[12:30] <dustin_> i need to fix my blackbeery software and tether with it using wine
[12:31] <dustin_> help pleas!
[12:31] <oCean_> dustin_: wine support in #winehq
[12:31] <dustin_> ok they didnt help me
[12:31] <dustin_> just gave me a few web sites and said good luck
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> dustin_:  thats proberly all we can do also. Unless anyone in this chhanel has happened to do the exact same thing..
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> dustin_:  you may want to check the ubuntu forums also.
[12:34] <Euthanatos> projectM 2.0 has been out for over a year now will 10.10 include it or is there a reason it wasn't bothered with in lucid?
[12:35] <oCean_> Euthanatos: packages.ubuntu.com does not show any packages 'projectm' for maverick. Further 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel
[12:36] <Euthanatos> thanks
[12:36] <dustin_> i did it all , and  i got a few things but i dont know how to "compile,or command line, or how to read this stuff of doc, i got most of what i need ,( i think) but i need someone to help me go through it
[12:36] <keitherz> can anyone help me with building wine from source?
[12:37] <ikonia> keitherz: why do you want to ?
[12:37] <keitherz> i get configure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system.
[12:37] <keitherz> OpenGL and Direct3D won't be supported.
[12:37] <keitherz> hmm acceptex patch
[12:37] <bazhang> dustin_, installed build-essential yet? what do you need to compile? most packages are in the software repositories and obviate the need for compiling
[12:38] <dustin_> keitherz, hey if you can make tehthering possible for my blackberry , the world would be more moible, and lappy happy
[12:39] <kk9822> thanks it worked
[12:39] <ikonia> keitherz: why do you think you need to recompile wine to fix that
[12:39] <keitherz> dustin_, tehthering just got possible on that samsung thing btw
[12:39] <kk9822> thanks thune3
[12:39] <dustin_> bazhang, i did, but it didnt  get me there to the bottom line,
[12:39] <keitherz> because thats the way to enable acceptex?
[12:40] <ikonia> keitherz: WARNING: No OpenGL library
[12:40] <bazhang> dustin_, what are talking about; give a clear explanation please
[12:40] <ikonia> keitherz: put the openGL libraries on the system
[12:40] <dustin_> keitherz, samsung what?
[12:40] <skumara> can we run KDE designed program like kmymoney in gnome desktop and vise versa?
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> skumara: yes
[12:40] <guest> gnu_cach
[12:40] <keitherz> ikonia, already is
[12:40] <tik> ikonia: you figure it out?
[12:40] <skumara> thanks
[12:41] <kk9822> bye
[12:41] <om26er> !resetpanel
[12:41] <tik> keitherz: what kinda of video card do you have does it support openGL?
[12:41] <ikonia> tik: fiture what out, sorry
[12:41] <ikonia> keitherz: you're using wine out of the ubuntu repos right ?
[12:41] <WaltzingAlong> skumara: also might be interested in gnucash
[12:41] <keitherz> dustin_, samsung vibrant
[12:42] <ikonia> keitherz: what chipset is that ?
[12:42] <kamyshovyy> Подскажите пож. как называется предшественник емпати?
[12:42] <keitherz> ikonia, nope, uhm from wine hacks.git
[12:42] <tik> ikonia: sorry t you mixed up with someone else
[12:42] <ikonia> keitherz: ok, so that version is not supported here
[12:42] <keitherz> tik, i have ati raddeon hd series 3600 (hd3650
[12:42] <bazhang> !ru | kamyshovyy
[12:42] <skumara> twaltzingAlong tried gnucash many times, but i keep lost in it. some cant understand the account structure!!! kmymoney was easier.
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> !ru | kamyshovyy
[12:42] <ikonia> keitherz: so how that's built is nothing to do with us
[12:42] <keitherz> just asking for support
[12:43] <dustin_> ok i need to send this computer im irc with you guys with  internet,aka tethering with a black blackberry 8130 , using wine for the desktop software, .. you must use the software to tether
[12:43] <ikonia> keitherz: just telling you, it's not supported here
[12:43] <ikonia> keitherz: contact the package maintainer for support
[12:43] <keitherz> ok so if i try getting from repos and get the same error would you help me then
[12:43] <ikonia> keitherz: you won't get that error from the version from the repos,
[12:43] <bazhang> dustin_, and you were directed to #winehq several times
[12:43] <keitherz> ok let me try
[12:43] <ikonia> keitherz: however I'm not aware what dependencies that external system changes, so I can't support your machine any more
[12:44] <tik> playonlinux is prety elite
[12:44] <MaRk-I> dustin_: only way to tether it is via bluetooth
[12:44] <dustin_> keitherz,bazhang, i went to it  2 times
[12:44] <ikonia> MaRk-I: blackbrrys don't work properly on linux/bluetooth
[12:44] <dustin_> already
[12:44] <soreau> keitherz: What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ?
[12:44] <keitherz> http://hackaday.com/2010/07/30/tethering-the-samsung-vibrant-without-rooting/
[12:44] <dustin_> blue tooth?
[12:44] <ikonia> MaRk-I: they have a propriatary stack for bluetooth and usb connection, it's quite annoying
[12:44] <keitherz> dustin_,
[12:44] <bazhang> dustin_, then be patient. that is the channel to resolve it in
[12:45] <c3l> how does ubuntu start X, what files and in what order is runned?
[12:45] <ikonia> c3l: it's launched as a dependency for gdm/kdm (login manager)
[12:45] <keitherz> soreau, OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
[12:45] <aeon-ltd> c3l: .xsession if your using a login manager
[12:45] <keitherz> soreau, and in glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering is on
[12:46] <MaRk-I> ikonia: i've never used a blackberry... http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476009
[12:46] <soreau> keitherz: I guess its a wine issue then since your drivers seem to be working
[12:46] <ikonia> MaRk-I: they are the devil on linux
[12:46] <dustin_> bazhang,i am trying, i just got a deadline to make , and send this computer on the other side of iowa
[12:46] <MaRk-I> ikonia: thanks to RIM heh
[12:46] <keitherz> soreau, i thinkgs theres just and issue with the ./configure it cant seem to find the libraries
[12:47] <keitherz> anyone knows whos the package maintainer of wine in the official ubuntu repo?
[12:47] <kamyshovyy> гм! тест
[12:47] <ikonia> keitherz: why ?
[12:47] <Misterio> !english | kamyshovyy
[12:48] <keitherz> ikonia, what do you mean why?
[12:48] <ikonia> keitherz: why do you need the package maintainer in the ubuntu repos
[12:48] <keitherz> ah
[12:48] <keitherz> just need help?
[12:48] <keitherz> nah maybe ill just wait for someone on winehw
[12:49] <ikonia> keitherz: help with what ?
[12:49] <c3l> keitherz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/wine1.2
[12:50] <ikonia> keitherz: what are you struggling with ?
[12:50] <ikonia> keitherz: contacting the wine maintainer for help with your wine problem is not a good idea, as you are not using the ubuntu packages
[12:50] <soreau> keitherz: So you are trying to compile wine? If its complaining at configure time, that means you are missing build dependencies
[12:50] <ikonia> keitherz: you need to contact the maintainer of the repo you are using
[12:51] <guest> kamyshovyy ubuntu-ru
[12:51] <saymoo> hello :)
[12:54] <Sary> Hello Ubuntu ;)
[12:54] <aeon-ltd> Sary: 'sup
[12:55] <gtm> list
[12:55] <saymoo> re:
[12:56] <Sary> Maverick Meerkat Countdown Counter 1.1  - http://bit.ly/cZpNZw
[12:56] <Sary> aeon-ltd, Thats whats up ;) .. Oh we
[12:56] <guest> Sary: nice love to ubuntu
[12:58] <Sary> guest: ;) thats love and more in the Air
[12:58] <guest> downloading script
[12:58] <Sary> Please Spread Maverick Meerkat Countdown Counter 1.1  - http://bit.ly/cZpNZw
[12:59] <oCean_> Sary: stop spamming!
[12:59] <valentina> hi,i have a problem making the dvd player work,can i ask somebody for help?
[12:59] <Sary> guest: nice move
[12:59] <_johnny> from freebsd i'm used to using "geli", can anyone tell me if there's a similar tool for ubuntu? (i've tried googling)
[12:59] <psycho_oreos> !ops Sary spamming
[12:59] <Sary> oCean_ what spam !
[12:59] <psycho_oreos> !ops | Sary is spamming and offtopic
[13:00] <gtm_> hi guys, can someone help me configuring my webcam? (ALi Corp. 0402:5602 and ubuntu 10.04)
[13:00] <oCean_> Sary: the link to the app, that has nothing to do with technical support
[13:00] <guest> Sary: is it your script?
[13:00] <oCean_> psycho_oreos: that's a bit overkill don't you think?
[13:00] <psycho_oreos> !op | Sary is spamming and offtopic
[13:00] <bazhang> Sary, keep it on topic and dont paste things here
[13:00] <bazhang> psycho_oreos, no need to repeat
[13:00] <guest> oCean_ ok we folllow the rules
[13:00] <Grozzy> Hi! Is it possible to copy the home-folder, reinstalling ubuntu and put back the old home-folder?
[13:00] <psycho_oreos> oCean_, though he did repeat advertisement twice
[13:01] <Sary> oCean_, I 'm only exuding positive energy
[13:01] <oCean_> psycho_oreos: as it states, "use in emergencies only"
[13:01] <_johnny> Grozzy: assuming you have access to it (not encrypted, with unknown key) then yes
[13:01] <psycho_oreos> bazhang, apologies, I'm lagging
[13:01] <saymoo> ok enough, reported, let the judges descide
[13:01] <bazhang> Sary, its not on topic, so please stop
[13:01] <saymoo> back ontopic :)
[13:01] <oCean_> Sary: we've got enough of that in this channel :)
[13:01] <gtm_>  can someone help me configuring my webcam? (ALi Corp. 0402:5602 and ubuntu 10.04)
[13:01] <Sary> And no , it's not my script
[13:01] <Sary> Easy  guys
[13:01] <Jin16> hey
[13:02] <Grozzy> _johnny, what if the home is on a searated partition, and when I'm reinstalling, I merge all partitoins in to one, will it change something?
[13:02] <Jin16> I have a problem
[13:02] <aeon-ltd> !ask | Jin16
[13:02] <oCean_> Jin16: try to keep (detailed) description in one single line
[13:02] <psycho_oreos> oCean_, meh :) preventative measure
[13:03] <jun_> ho
[13:03] <c3l> what file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?
[13:03] <_johnny> Grozzy: you should move the home folder do a different location. like a external usb flash drive or similar (something you will not be touching with your reinstall/format/partitioning), then move it back after reinstall
[13:03] <Jin16> okay...
[13:03] <oCean_> !cn | jun_
[13:05] <Grozzy> _johnny, yes ofcourse, but it is allright to just replace to new home folder with the old home folder when the reinstall is finished?
[13:05] <Grozzy> sorry, bad english..
[13:05] <Jin16> my problem is how do I uninstal ubuntu
[13:05] <WaltzingAlong> Jin16: how did you install it? what do you want instead?
[13:06] <c3l> Jin16: format the partiiton ubuntu is insatlled on
[13:06] <_johnny> Grozzy: the content of the home folder yes (and the whole thing if the username is the same)
[13:07] <Grozzy> _johnny, okey thanks! :)
[13:07] <Jin16> I have instal it from a cd, where there was/ are windows on too
[13:07] <Jin16> the my pc there are windows on
[13:07] <_johnny> Grozzy: the reason i mentioned the paranthesis (), was in case your current homedir is /home/Grozzy and when you reinstall you have no user called Grozzy :) but assuming you'll use the same username, then no problem
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> Jin16: so seems like you could just boot into ms windows already. do that instead of ubuntu. from within ms windows you could format the partition containing ubuntu, as suggested by c3l
[13:08] <hasek79> is there a comand to change me (the only user on the computer) to the owner????????
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> hasek79: chown
[13:09] <saymoo> !dk | Jin16
[13:09] <Grozzy> _johnny, I will reinstall my dad's Ubuntu because he have messed it up pretty much, will all installed programs be gone? Not a big problem but just wondering..
[13:09] <gos> Hi , as I could to run desktop effects lubuntu, because I have installed nvidia 195 and does not work
[13:09] <hasek79> then what?
[13:09] <hasek79> do i just put in chown?
[13:09] <gos> the compiz fusion too
[13:09] <Sary> Okay , i got this issue for days now ..
[13:09] <Sary> (zenity:5122): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "equinox",
[13:10] <WaltzingAlong> hasek79: man chown;  sudo chown hasek79 file1;
[13:10] <tik> Grozzy: yes
[13:10] <bareego> gos, tried to install the drivers from the manufacturers website ?
[13:10] <_johnny> Grozzy: if you only backup the homedir then only the stuff in the homedir will be saved. i'm not sure which folder the programs will be installed in, but probably not the homedir, no. most apps have dependencies too, so reinstalling the apps would be the best idea (and of course, back up any personal data he has in relations to the apps)
[13:11] <aeon-ltd> _johnny: /usr/bin
[13:11] <_johnny> aeon-ltd: i doubt the bins can just be copied over and run, but potentially yes
[13:11] <c3l> what file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?
[13:12] <aeon-ltd> _johnny: Grozzy is better off building a list of apps rather than migrate
[13:12] <gos> bareego , the effects also operate in the environment lxde?
[13:12] <_johnny> aeon-ltd: wasn't that what i said? :)
[13:13] <aeon-ltd> _johnny: soz didn't read the whole conversation
[13:13] <Jin16> okay but how do I do that
[13:14] <_johnny> np. well, that was the idea i was going for anyway, hehe
[13:14] <saymoo> Jin16: type /join #ubuntu-dk
[13:14] <Jin16> there is no one on there
[13:14] <_johnny> can anyone tell me if md-crypt (for ubuntu) is a good alternative to freebsd's GELI (GEOM)?
[13:15] <_johnny> saymoo: why are you forcing him to join that chan? he's speaking english
[13:15] <gos>  in the lxde  environment I've never been able to use desktop effects
[13:15] <saymoo> _johnny: because his first questions here, where poor english, and Jin16 is danish
[13:15] <saymoo> in*
[13:16] <_johnny> Jin16: try asking the question to me in pm. I'm danish too
[13:17] <MaRk-I> Jin16: if you're dual booting, windows and linux, just get your windows installation cd and fix the MBR that'll delete the grub, then from windows you can delete the linux partition... if you dont know how to restore/fix MBR go to #windows for help
[13:17] <gos> someone has got to use the desktop effects in lubuntu?
[13:18] <ibrahim> Jin16: I don't know what exactly is your problem but why don't you use virtual box instead of dual booting
[13:18] <bareego> gos, not sure
[13:18] <bareego> gos, I just use lxde
[13:18] <abhijit> gos, try in #lubuntu
[13:19] <raven> how to mount a lvm automatically?
[13:20] <abhijit> i am going to reinstall ubuntu. anyway to get back up of my updates?
[13:20] <Neo--> how do I un-revert things I reverted? if I do revert -r (some higher revision number) I get an error that that revision is not in branch, but if I do a fresh branch I get branch with that higher revision number...
[13:20] <WaltzingAlong> abhijit: save files in /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:20] <gos> lubuntu is very good but has many limitations with your desktop
[13:20] <zongo_> hey Guys, anyone has managed to make wvdial work in 10.04 ?
[13:21] <abhijit> WaltzingAlong, already done that using aptoncd. but that only aps ? i want update too?
[13:21] <WaltzingAlong> abhijit: updates are just new packages, so you just need the most recent packages
[13:22] <abhijit> WaltzingAlong, I am talking about system updates.
[13:22] <gos> I think lubuntu lxde is  not ready to use desktop magical effects
[13:22] <WaltzingAlong> so was i
[13:22] <eliezer> anyonw with wireshark experience pleaase PM
[13:23] <abhijit> WaltzingAlong, okki
[13:23] <abhijit> gos, I never talkd to you
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> lxde is sort of counter to 'magical desktop effects' :)
[13:24] <hishki> kharkhodeti
[13:24] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: more specifically openbox
[13:24] <Putr> hi! I used samba to connect to a win7 computer... it worked fine, but today it all of a sudden does not work anymore (the connection ubuntu->win times out, other way is fine)
[13:24] <Putr> what could be the culprit?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Putr:  you are refering to windows 'shares' ?
[13:25] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 any help???
[13:25] <shadeslayer> hey everyone
[13:25] <kyxzme> how to enable TUN/TAP on 10.04?
[13:25] <Putr> Dr_Willis: i connect: smb:\\computer_name\
[13:25] <Putr> i dont know how you call them :D
[13:26] <Putr> / not \\ :D
[13:26] <shadeslayer> apparently i installed nvidia-current via apt-get but it doesnt install the modules on account of missing kernel source
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Putr:  try using the ip# instead of the name
[13:27] <Putr> win to win (\\computer_name) works fine, win to ubuntu works fine, just ubuntu to win does not
[13:27] <Putr> Dr_Willis: Ok i'll try that
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Putr:  'smb' = samba = how windows does 'shares'
[13:27] <dbc_> 这是什么？
[13:27] <bazhang> !cn | dbc_
[13:28] <Putr> Dr_Willis: Your a genious :D
[13:28] <Draknek> How can I control the mounted drives shown in the Places menu? I have one drive there which I want ignored and one drive which is not there and I would like it to be.
[13:28] <gos> Dr willis ,then it is impossible to use desktop effects with lubuntu ?
[13:28] <sixth> is there a ubuntu netbook channel?
[13:28] <Putr> Dr_Willis: it works
[13:28] <gos> sure?
[13:28] <Putr> I owe you one
[13:28] <bazhang> sixth, nope
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> kyxzme: modprobe tun
[13:29] <ciphersson> I herd on a podcast that fedora has nvidia 3d beta support... any one know how I can get that running on ubuntu ?
[13:29] <c3l> what file would be the correct place to put xset foo etc?
[13:29] <kyxzme> WaltzingAlong, not found
[13:29] <bazhang> gos, its possible sure
[13:29] <kyxzme> already tried
[13:29] <bazhang> gos, if your card supports it
[13:29] <bazhang> !ccsm > gos
[13:30] <WaltzingAlong> kyxzme: seems like it was supported here out of the box
[13:30] <soreau> c3l: $HOME/.bashrc
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  what are you wanting to set exactly?
[13:31] <ciphersson> so I pressed alt f2 and typed    free the fish   but now I want to kill the fish
[13:32] <tik> huh
[13:32] <mitchell> hi all.  a question.  i finallly installed the b43 driver for my broadcom wireless chip on my netbook.  so finally i can connect to the internet.  but bootup still gets stuck on the establishing PCI-wireless-bridge-b43 line.  Now it is impossible for me to wake up the computer from Hibernate because it can't get past this line.  What else do I need to do?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Some fishy easter egg in gnome.. i recall.. no ide ahow to turn it off. :0
[13:33] <gos> yes with gnome no problem with lubuntu lxde many problems
[13:33] <gos> I have installed the compiz fusion with lucid and desktop effects work, with lucid lubuntu not work
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> gos:  compiz would replace the window manager that lubuntu/lxde is using.
[13:33] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ping
[13:34] <tik> ciphersson: nowthere is fish floating around my desktop :P
[13:35] <ciphersson> :-) haha I I can't get it to go away
[13:35] <daniel_tree> after while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?
[13:35] <gos> i only  know the compiz fusion does not work in lxde
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> ciphersson:  log out/back in
[13:35] <ghoulsblade> hi all, ubuntu 10.04 here, how can i change the violet background image of the login/gdm dialog to something else ? couldn't find anything that works in menu and wiki so far =)
[13:36] <soreau> gos: Can you pastebin the output of compiz --replace from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> gos:  you would set up your Desktop session to run 'compuiz' instead of openbox. and you would have the effects
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu is using openbox right? I never can rember
[13:36] <soreau> oh yes
[13:36] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: *compiz
[13:36] <daniel_tree> after while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure aht the --replace stuff will work properly with every window maanger. it may not work with openbox.
[13:37] <soreau> gos: To set compiz as the default window manager in lxde, go to preferences->desktop-session-settings->advanced tab->Window Manager field and change openbox to compiz
[13:37] <daniel_tree> I would really like to hear your opinion on that
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> I cant really understand why one would use lubuntu + compiz either. :)
[13:37] <tik> ciphersson: You can get rid of Wanda by pressing ALT+F2, then “pkill gnome-panel”
[13:37] <tik> Your panel will disappear for a few seconds and then reload itself. Sometimes it takes more than a few seconds, so be patient.
[13:38] <MaRk-I> ciphersson: just kill the panel
[13:38] <tik> pretty elite
[13:38] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I dont see why it wouldnt unless ubuntu patched openbox to misbehave :P
[13:38] <ciphersson> lulz
[13:38] <tik> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/09/a-few-gnome-easter-eggs/
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  not all window managers support that 'replace'  feature.  at least ive seen many in the past that dont.
[13:38] <soreau> Dr_Willis: yea me neither
[13:39] <tik> gegls from outer space
[13:39] <tik> hehe
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  its possible  openbox now supports it.
[13:39] <soreau> Might as well use standalone compiz
[13:39] <daniel_tree> after while the system is up...I get this error: error updating sensor temp1/temp2/cpu/...and when that happens the system freezes for moments...while I am typing I am experiencing it..any ideas why that happens..and how to fix it ?
[13:39] <gos> dr willis : this the reporte: Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators
[13:39] <gos> Found no decorator to start
[13:39] <gos> gos@gos-laptop:~$ Advertencia del gestor de ventanas: Ocurrió un error al cargar el tema «Clearlooks»: Falló al encontrar un archivo válido para el temaClearlooks
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> !repeat > daniel_tree
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  compiz + panel + the file manager.. basically is lubuntu desktop last i checked. :)
[13:40] <ballbag> compiz is great
[13:40] <daniel_tree> ubottu,  :(
[13:40] <ciphersson> aint compiz rewritin in c++ for the 10.10 release?
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> gos:  perhaps you need to install emerald, or gtk-decorator
[13:40] <Daekdroom> ciphersson, not for the 10.10 release
[13:41] <raven> lvm mount: "is not a valid block device"
[13:41] <Daekdroom> ciphersson, compiz is independent from ubuntu development and its version 0.9 will not ship within 10.10
[13:41] <gos> drwillis: os@gos-laptop:~$ compiz --replace
[13:41] <gos> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'ccp'
[13:41] <gos> Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators
[13:41] <gos> Found no decorator to start
[13:41] <bazhang> gos, pastebin it not here
[13:41] <tik> ravn: are you trying to mount a cd?
[13:41] <bazhang> !paste > gos
[13:41] <raven> tik no
[13:41] <gos> drwillis, ok  will be gtk-decorator
[13:41] <tik> raven: what is your mount command?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> gos:  compiz uses 'decorators' to define what widgits  and titlebar to use. As i said you MAY need to install emerald or that gtk-decorator.
[13:42] <raven> tik  mount /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> gos:  you may want to install/run 'fusion-icon' also it lets you manage compiz
[13:42] <soreau> gos: Pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep compiz
[13:42] <tik> what's lv0 ?
[13:42] <young001> how to install fedora theme on my ubuntu?
[13:42] <aeon-ltd> gos: if your going to use compiz standalone, unless you really like lxpanel and ldm, you could just simplify it by using startx and xinitrc + a independent panel of choice
[13:42] <raven> tik lvm"device"name
[13:43] <c3l> Dr_Willis: things like xset r rate , xset m etc. those are reset after logout
[13:43] <tik> ive never heard o it
[13:43] <tik> of
[13:43] <tik> what type of filesystem i it?
[13:43] <raven> tik ext3
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  you could always make a script thats auto ran by the gnome auto-starting features
[13:43] <tik> ok
[13:43] <tik> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home
[13:43] <tik> does that work?
[13:44] <raven> tik no same error
[13:44] <tik> weird
[13:45] <kb3ien> i've just installed vnc server as a daemon in netd.conf as per http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/vncserver.html . now i can vncviewer into my box and get prompted for a login NICE. but if a 'switch user' from gnom the login page lets me know i'm still logged in with arunning desktop "currently logged in" vnc sessions cannot resume that session. Can a make the box multi-headed (vncserver heads) and also multi-session ac
[13:45] <kb3ien>  those heads?
[13:45] <FloodBot1> kb3ien: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <eliezer> does anyone know how to make wireshark capture,,please pm me
[13:45] <soreau> Dr_Willis: He doesnt have compiz isntalled completely
[13:45] <soreau> He does not need fusion-icon
[13:45] <soreau> gos: You need to make sure to install at least the following: compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins emerald compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 python-compizconfig
[13:46] <Stefanos90> γεια σας.. ξερει κανεις αν υπαρχει αυτο σε pdf? http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python_el:Περιεχόμενα
[13:46] <bazhang> !gr | Stefanos90
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[13:47] <Error404NotFound> creating a system for people to fix, what are other non-harming (e.g. serious data loss) methods to destroy your system beside: http://pastebin.com/1tJN5h9F
[13:47] <giorgio> ciao
[13:47] <bazhang> Stefanos90, /join #ubuntu-gr  this is english only
[13:47] <raven> tik?
[13:47] <bazhang> !it | giorgio
[13:48] <tik> i don't understand your /dev
[13:48] <tik> why is it that l stuff
[13:48] <raven> tik i gave it the name
[13:48] <tik> ive never seen lv0
[13:48] <tik> its usually sd0
[13:48] <tik> sda1
[13:48] <tik> xt
[13:48] <tik> ect.
[13:48] <FloodBot1> tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <tik> sorry
[13:49] <antonio_> hey all
[13:49] <rileyp> i have 2 instances of irexexc running one as root and one as my user name dad
[13:49] <tik> raven: why
[13:49] <tik> you did something wrong
[13:49] <raven> tik it was mounted
[13:49] <rileyp> how can i stop the root instance Im using mythbuntu 10.04
[13:49] <raven> but after reboot it is not possible to mount it
[13:49] <tik> what do  you mean
[13:50] <antonio_> I need to reformat my extern 500 gig harddrive to xfer some large backups from this lappy (ubuntu) to my new lappy...
[13:50] <antonio_> should I format it as ext or ntfs?
[13:50] <bazhang> antonio_, use gparted live cd
[13:50] <tik> depends if you want to use it in windows or not
[13:50] <antonio_> what?
[13:50] <bazhang> antonio_, shared with windows? ntfs then
[13:50] <tik> bazhang: no need
[13:50] <Misterio> antonio_: Then ext4
[13:50] <antonio_> why gparted?
[13:50] <tik> its external he can unmont it
[13:51] <Misterio> if you are NOT going to share with windows
[13:51] <bazhang> ah right missed that
[13:51] <antonio_> I'm using with it win
[13:51] <antonio_> so ntfs then?
[13:51] <tik> yes ntfs
[13:51] <bazhang> antonio_, ntfs then
[13:51] <antonio_> ok...
[13:51] <Misterio> antonio_: If you are using with WIndows, ntfs
[13:51] <antonio_> now
[13:51] <antonio_> how do I format my hd on ubuntu?
[13:51] <tik> heh
[13:51] <abhijit> nu 1 help. :'(
[13:51] <tik> gparter is a good util.
[13:51] <Misterio> !gparted | antonio_
[13:51] <raven> tik?
[13:51] <tik> gparted
[13:52] <tik> raven: I have no idea
[13:52] <tik> it should be named /dev/sda1 or somethin
[13:52] <tik> how did you rename it?
[13:52] <rileyp> i have 2 instances of irexexc running one as root and one as my user name dad
[13:52] <rileyp> how can i stop the root instance Im using mythbuntu 10.04
[13:53] <lungan> Having som anoying sound, like a big beeep when i for example press ctrl+f and write a word in firefox thats not on the site, or if I press backspace in chatwindow when already at start?
[13:53] <tik> ps - aux |grep iexecx
[13:53] <aeon-ltd> rileyp: kill it via 'sudo killall irexec'
[13:53] <tik> no dont killall
[13:53] <rileyp> yes but when I do a reboot same problem will exist
[13:53] <tik> jus kill the PID ofthe oneyou want to kill
[13:53] <aeon-ltd> rileyp: soz just 'kill'
[13:53] <tik> and leave the other one runing
[13:54] <vivek243> hi everyone...!!!
[13:54] <WaltzingAlong> !seen everyone
[13:55] <antonio_> I just ran gparted..can't see my 500 gig ext hd in there
[13:55] <rileyp> so I need to edit  whatever is starting the root irxec instance
[13:55] <antonio_> never mind, found it :D
[13:55] <rileyp> what would sart the root insatnce of irxec in mythbuntu
[13:55] <rileyp> *start
[13:55] <arunkumar413> hi friends i cannot boot 10.4  after installing fedora 13
[13:55] <WaltzingAlong> antonio_: need to pick the drive out of the list. otherwise the main area shows just partitions from the selected drive
[13:55] <tik> uhm crontab init.d rc.local ?
[13:56] <tik> WaltzingAlong: good advice he got it though ;)
[13:56] <Gnea> arunkumar413: why install fedora?
[13:56] <dinooooo> I have a problem. I installed ubuntu on a hard drive with a windows system, and I gave ubuntu too little disc space, how do I enlarge this?
[13:56] <tik> arunkumar413: read up on recovering grub2 you need a ubuntu livecd to do it
[13:57] <aeon-ltd> dinooooo: using a livecd like gparted to manage partitions
[13:57] <vivek243> dinooooo u can ues disk management
[13:57] <kosaidpo> hello guys i installed lampp usin tasksel so where's my htdocs ? tnx
[13:57] <raven> tik lvcreate tells me "homelvm is not active" - what could that mean?
[13:57] <tik> i have no idea nout lv
[13:57] <tik> about
[13:57] <tik> r how to mount it sory
[13:58] <iceroot> kosaidpo: /var/www/
[13:58] <nanodano> kosaidopo try try /var/www
[13:58] <eliezer> do i need driver to capture packets ?
[13:58] <WaltzingAlong> kosaidpo: could also check the configuration file for apache. /etc/apache2/ ...
[13:58] <vivek243> hey nanodano what are u talking about??
[13:59] <vivek243> nanodano i also need help on running php programs..
[13:59] <nanodano> eliezer you dont need special drivers if your network card can handle promiscious mode
[14:00] <nanodano> viveck243 what is your trouble with php
[14:00] <arunkumar413> cant boot 10.4 after installling fedora 13
[14:00] <nanodano> eliezer are you using a specific program?
[14:00] <Gnea> !ask | arunkumar413
[14:00] <eliezer> i try wireshark
[14:00] <vivek243> nanodano it is giving me error as 404 not found..
[14:00] <Gnea> arunkumar413: so what?
[14:00] <raven> LVM what does "inactive volume group" ?
[14:00] <eliezer> i cant manage to make ir work
[14:00] <eliezer> i want capture
[14:00] <eliezer> any recomendations
[14:01] <nanodano> eliezer wireless or ethernet
[14:01] <eliezer> ethernet
[14:01] <nanodano> vivek243 are you using apache?
[14:01] <eliezer> both
[14:01] <eliezer> wireless too
[14:01] <vivek243> nanodano how to chek it?
[14:01] <eliezer> mainly wireless
[14:01] <nanodano> eliezer have you set your wifi to montior mode
[14:01] <vivek243> nanodano can u be more specific?
[14:01] <eliezer> how ?
[14:01] <nanodano> vivek243 did you set up your web server yourself?
[14:02] <nanodano> eliezer look into aircrack-ng suite there is a tool called airmon-ng which will put your wifi into monitor mode
[14:02] <arunkumar413> Gnea:i want to boot 10.4 also
[14:02] <vivek243> nanodano what is web server?
[14:02] <raven> LVM what does "inactive volume group" ?
[14:02] <eliezer> just install that
[14:02] <nanodano> vivek243 what are you trying to do with php?
[14:02] <KL-7> Hi. How can I hide all app/places/system menus under one parent menu? I'd like to have only one icon for this menus in gnome panel
[14:02] <nanodano> vivek243 if you dont know what a web server is do you know what a 404 error is
[14:02] <vivek243> nanodano i am a student..
[14:02] <eliezer> is that in terminal
[14:03] <vivek243> nanodano there is php programming in our syllabus..
[14:03] <aeon-ltd> KL-7: right click on the panel, go on edit panel you can remove the menus and add the icon menu
[14:03] <nanodano> try channel #php
[14:03] <vivek243> nanodano in our college we use Fedora 8...but at home i have desktop edition of Ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[14:03] <raven> LVM what does "inactive volume group" ?
[14:04] <abhijit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 help
[14:04] <Gnea> arunkumar413: then you need to not overwrite stuff
[14:04] <mkanyicy> vivek243, how can we help you?
[14:04] <tik> I installed wine version 1. but I am getting wie 1.1.42?
[14:04] <tik> wine*
[14:04] <vivek243> nanodano i have internet connection...i use mozilla fire fox..
[14:05] <aeon-ltd> tik: that is version 1
[14:05] <tik> im aiming for 1.2
[14:05] <KL-7> aeon-ltd, I think this settings allow only edit submenus. And I want to move all three menu in parent menu and place this menu in my gnome-panel... It's hard to explain =(
[14:05] <mkanyicy> vivek243, what do you want to do?
[14:05] <tik> aeon-ltd: sudo apt-get install wine1.2 ? right?
[14:05] <aeon-ltd> KL-7: you can remove the old menu and add the collective menu on gnome panel
[14:06] <vivek243> mkanyicy i want to work php programs on my pc
[14:06] <arunkumar413> Gnea: i made the necessary changes inthe menu.lst file but still i cant boot the 10.4
[14:06] <aeon-ltd> tik: it won't work unless you using a PPA that has wine 1.2
[14:06] <nanodano> vivek243: if you want to make your first php program go to terminal make a file called test.php
[14:06] <smmalmansoori> i want to program a small feature in ubuntu and submit it, where can i ask about ubuntu development?
[14:06] <coz_> abhijit,  mm  how did you install and then .subsequentyly un-install kde??
[14:06] <nanodano> vivek243 in there write this:  <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[14:06] <eliezer> ok i installed aircrack from sofware center
[14:06] <tik> uh
[14:06] <eliezer> how i run the airmong
[14:06] <tik> it worked
[14:06] <tik> I installed it
[14:06] <nanodano> vivek243: chmod +x text.php
[14:06] <vivek243> nanodano where to store it?
[14:06] <arunkumar413> Gnea: the boot error i get is 13
[14:06] <eliezer> please pm if posible
[14:06] <abhijit>  coz_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and --||-- remove kubuntu-desktop
[14:06] <KL-7> aeon-ltd, ty, I'll try it
[14:06] <nanodano> vivek243: then type php test.php
[14:06] <eliezer> anyone
[14:06] <nanodano> vivek243: it doesnt matter
[14:07] <abhijit> !pm > eliezer
[14:07] <nanodano> vivek243 you can do this on command line
[14:07] <eliezer> i dont mind
[14:07] <iceroot> nanodano: dont forget the shebang
[14:07] <vivek243> nanodano ok.
[14:07] <nanodano> iceroot: the shebang is only necessary if you want to run it as ./test.php
[14:07] <mkanyicy> vivek243, so what is stopping you?
[14:07] <nanodano> if you just run: php test.php you are telling itt o use PHP
[14:07] <FishFace> Looking for some live streaming webcam to run directly off the PC. Anyone have a good suggestion? No thank you to Camstream though.
[14:07] <iceroot> nanodano: and chmod +x is only necesaary if you use ./test.php :)
[14:07] <mkanyicy> vivek243, do you want to use apache web server as well?
[14:08] <vivek243> nanodano we want to make web pages..
[14:08] <nanodano> you're right iceroot ;)
[14:08] <coz_> abhijit,  ok that should have uninstalled most everything  without issue...however...in the past when doing this myself it generally messed things up for me as well... you reinstall kubuntu desktop ...see if it fixes these issues...then uninstall it again with  sudo apt-get autoremove  kubuntu-desktop
[14:08] <vivek243> mkanyicy 404 not found.
[14:08] <eliezer> whats the comand to see my wireless card in terminal
[14:08] <eliezer> is a lsm something
[14:08] <eliezer> i forgot
[14:08] <nanodano> vivek243 well then the only difference is that you store it in your WWW root usually /var/ww
[14:08] <tik> tik@tik-laptop:~$ wine --version
[14:08] <tik> wine-1.1.42
[14:08] <mkanyicy> vivek243, what about the 404 error?
[14:08] <tik> lspci i think
[14:08] <abhijit> coz_, just few min before i installed kde again. but it is not solving the problem.
[14:08] <eliezer> need to check to see if i can get it in monitor mode
[14:09] <aeon-ltd> eliezer: or ifconfig
[14:09] <KL-7> aeon-ltd, I've found what I was looking for. It's standard main menu applet. =)
[14:09] <vivek243> nanodano can u guide me in PM?
[14:09] <nanodano> iwconfig is wireless config
[14:09] <aeon-ltd> KL-7: good :)
[14:09] <vivek243> nanodano please?
[14:09] <coz_> abhijit,  mm  ok ... not sure of what else i could offer ... did you try reinstalling this codelite?
[14:09] <antonio_> for some reason I can't select NTFS in gparted for this drive?
[14:09] <abhijit> coz_, yes
[14:09] <tik> aeon-ltd: i remved wine1.2 and reinstalled it and im still getting version 1.1.42 :(
[14:09] <nanodano> vivek243 there are plenty of guides on how to make your first php page
[14:09] <raven> LVM what does "inactive volume group" ?
[14:10] <Gnea> arunkumar413: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282545
[14:10] <Audible> so i have a problem, my drive accidentally got formatted
[14:10] <eliezer> it was a lsm something to view info about mi wireles card
[14:10] <eliezer> in terminal
[14:10] <Audible> anyone know a good recovery tool ?
[14:10] <abhijit> coz_, so only one option remain i.e. to fresh install ubuntu?
[14:10] <iceroot> !recover | Audible
[14:10] <aeon-ltd> tik: its not officially out yet https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.2
[14:10] <mkanyicy> antonio_, what do you want to achieve?
[14:10] <coz_> abhijit,  if it comes down to it... and  you have to reinstall... let me suggest downloading and burning the minimal install cd and choose  edubuntu-desktop...this offers the advantage of both gnome and kde libraries and applications and is far faster than either ubuntu or kubuntu..somehow
[14:10] <Guest9929> anybody got advice on editing this : mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“newrootpassword”) where user=’root’;
[14:10] <abhijit> coz_, ok
[14:11] <vivek243> nanodano  see i know what php program is..but my problem is that while i entered the path in my terminal i get 404 not found error..
[14:11] <antonio_> mkanyicy: I need to backup a ton of stuff from this lappy to the new lappy
[14:11] <aeon-ltd> tik: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[14:11] <antonio_> I need ntfs as some of the files are bigger than 4gigs..
[14:11] <Mike_Flip79> Hi agian I ve got Lucid Lynx Netbook up and running on my acer aspire 5000 but cant get the wireless working. possible reasons are the hardware button on the front that switches wlan on/off isnt supported and/or the B43xx needs ndiswrap which I cant DL cuz my wireless isnt working yet
[14:11] <Mike_Flip79> any advice?
[14:11] <aeon-ltd> tik: then do this --> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[14:11] <abhijit> !fixgrub | arunkumar413 see this
[14:11] <coz_> abhijit,  I have made a permanent switch to Edubuntu  installed via minial cd... it has some applicatoins you might want to remove afterwards  but overall it functions far better
[14:11] <mkanyicy> antonio_, then why are you using gparted?
[14:11] <antonio_> to format the drive as ntfs
[14:11] <USGIshimura> lol
[14:12] <abhijit> coz_, ok. thanks
[14:12] <Guest9929> yeah it may be jusy my syntax but im getting this error : mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“newrootpassword”) where user=’root’;
[14:12] <MaRk-I> Mike_Flip79: connect the pc with ethernet do updates and it will offer to install drivers
[14:12] <mkanyicy> antonio_, but you will lose data then unless you first resize the partition
[14:12] <arunkumar413> abhijit: actually i have 3 distributions on my system. i can boot fedora and 9.04 but not 10.4
[14:12] <Guest9929> mysql> update user set password=PASSWORD(“xxxxxx”) where user=’root’;     do i modify just the xxx part
[14:12] <antonio_> mkanyicy: I've already backed the stuff up
[14:13] <abhijit> arunkumar413, tell me the sequence you installed those os
[14:13] <iceroot> Guest9929: update database.user also see #mysql
[14:13] <arunkumar413> 10.4 on sda2 and 9.04 on sda5
[14:13] <eliezer> command to see my wireles card specs in terminal,,lsm something i forgot,,can someone please
[14:13] <arunkumar413> abhijit: first 9.04>10.4>fedora 13
[14:13] <Guest9929> iceroot, do i run that from the mysql command line
[14:14] <Gnea> arunkumar413: well, heh, you're going to need one grub to "rule them all"
[14:14] <abhijit> arunkumar413, you tried in fedora channel?
[14:14] <sometux> eliezer, lsmod
[14:14] <mkanyicy> antonio_, then on gparted make sure that all the partitions higher then the one you want to modify have been unmounted
[14:14] <antonio_> ?
[14:14] <arunkumar413> abhijit: yes
[14:14] <abhijit> arunkumar413, what they say?
[14:14] <iceroot> Guest9929: why not using mysqladmin?
[14:14] <eliezer> is anotherone
[14:14] <eliezer> just like it
[14:14] <Gnea> arunkumar413: can you still boot with a livecd and fix grub that way?
[14:15] <arunkumar413> abhijit: they said to try in #ubuntu
[14:15] <abhijit> arunkumar413, see what Gnea is asking
[14:15] <Gnea> abhijit: heh, they said try here - because we have better support
[14:15] <eliezer> give me a bunch or info about my Pc
[14:15] <soreau> abhijit: Can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep wx ?
[14:15] <eliezer> cards etc
[14:15] <abhijit> Gnea, :D
[14:15] <raven> LVM "inactive volume group" ???
[14:15] <vol7ron> what does this mean? pgadmin3: relocation error: pgadmin3: symbol _ZN21wxMemoryFSHandlerBase19AddFileWithMimeTypeERK8wxStringPKvmS2_, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 with link time reference
[14:15] <mkanyicy> antonio_, are you using live CD?
[14:15] <abhijit> soreau, ok
[14:15] <eliezer> it look like that one
[14:15] <antonio_> no
[14:15] <antonio_> I'm on my ubuntu box right now
[14:16] <MaRk-I> arunkumar413: fedora uses grub, lucid uses grub2, better create a chainload for lucid so it will load it's own grub
[14:16] <antonio_> using gparted to format the ext hd thats hooked up it it
[14:16] <arunkumar413> abhijit: now the boot loader is fedora's.i've made some changes to the menu.lst.It boots 9.04.but not 10.4
[14:16] <mkanyicy> antonio_, that might be the prob
[14:16] <tik> aeon-ltd: tik@tik-laptop:~$ wine --version
[14:16] <tik> wine-1.2
[14:16] <abhijit> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/471462/
[14:16] <tik> heh
[14:16] <mkanyicy> are you changing a format of an old partition to NTFS
[14:16] <aeon-ltd> tik: it worked?
[14:16] <tik> i had to add anther ppa
[14:16] <antonio_> yeah
[14:16] <Gnea> arunkumar413: if fedora was the last distro that you installed, you should be able to boot the 10.04 livecd and make it so that 10.04's grub is the 'master grub', if you understand my meaning, and that should detect and boot all 3 linux
[14:16] <tik> and install the gecko version
[14:16] <abhijit> arunkumar413, another our friend 'Gnea' is asking something to you.
[14:17] <vol7ron> i didn't have problems with pgadmin before?
[14:17] <antonio_> I have my extern usb hd...hooked up now...I want to format it as ntfs
[14:17] <tik> :(
[14:17] <mkanyicy> antonio_, I recommend you boot on liveCD
[14:17] <mkanyicy> antonio_, or else unmount the partition first
[14:17] <antonio_> unmount the usb one?
[14:17] <abhijit> soreau, here is my problem in detail: http://is.gd/dULw3
[14:18] <mkanyicy> antonio_, regardless
[14:18] <soreau> abhijit: Have you tried removing and reinstalling those two packages?
[14:18] <mkanyicy> antonio_, you must not partition a mounted partition
[14:18] <tik> aeon-ltd: oh well my joystick still doesnt work
[14:18] <abhijit> soreau, yes tried with purgre too. but no success.
[14:18] <arunkumar413> Gnea: what are the commands after booting from the 10.4 live cd
[14:18] <antonio_> whys that?
[14:18] <antonio_> what happens if you do?
[14:19] <tik> arunkumar413: to do what
[14:19] <mkanyicy> antonio_, that is not safe
[14:19] <USGIshimura> antonio__well for starters GParted shouldn't be able to even partition something that is mounted
[14:19] <soreau> abhijit: Have you built any packages from source yourself?
[14:19] <kosaidpo> guys ive installed lampp with tasksel but when im done icudnt find it on /opt
[14:19] <abhijit> soreau, no. all from repo
[14:19] <kosaidpo> any idea where this lampp is hidden
[14:19] <arunkumar413> tik: to make the 10.4 grub as the master grub
[14:20] <Gnea> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[14:20] <arunkumar413> abhijit: i also included the chainlodaer of 10.4 in fedoras menu.lst but still cant boot
[14:20] <abhijit> arunkumar413, i dunno anything about chainloader.
[14:20] <soreau> abhijit: Have you tried running ldconfig ?
[14:21] <abhijit> soreau, no
[14:21] <abhijit> soreau, i dunno what is it
[14:21] <MaRk-I> arunkumar413: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1370041&postcount=4
[14:21] <soreau> abhijit: sudo ldconfig
[14:21] <MaRk-I> like I said fedora uses grub legacy, ubuntu grub 2
[14:21] <abhijit> soreau, can you wait 2 mins?
[14:21] <rooisto47> hi everybody
[14:21] <vol7ron> is there a bugs channel?
[14:21] <soreau> abhijit: nope
[14:21] <abhijit> soreau, i need to switch to admin accou t for doing sudo things
[14:22] <rooisto47> does anyone set evolution for an @ymail.com account ?
[14:22] <abhijit> soreau, i am in my standard accunt not having sudo previledges
[14:22] <Gnea> !bugs | vol7ron
[14:22] <soreau> abhijit: That sounds really wrong
[14:22] <guest> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:22] <soreau> abhijit: You should never login as root. ever.
[14:22] <coz_> abhijit,   yes that does sound wrong
[14:22] <abhijit> soreau, hmm. may i switch then?
[14:23] <soreau> abhijit: now you probably have permission issues all over the place
[14:23] <abhijit> soreau, coz_ hey i am not talking about root. i am talking abotu administrator account. having sudo priviledges.
[14:23] <spooky> rooisto47: Try reading "Setting up UK ymail.com accounts for POP access in Evolution" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=895632
[14:23] <coz_> abhijit,  the default user account should already have sudo
[14:23] <abhijit> soreau, coz_ this is my standard account.
[14:23] <abhijit> coz_, yes right. and this is not my default account.
[14:23] <coz_> abhijit,  I see
[14:24] <rooisto47> spooky, thx i'll look it
[14:24] <abhijit> soreau, what to do? will you please wait?
[14:24] <spooky> !help
[14:24] <spooky> Can anyone use ubottu?
[14:24] <coz_> abhijit, do what you need to get into that account  to test
[14:25] <abhijit> !bot | spooky yes
[14:25] <spooky> abhijit: thanks!
[14:25] <abhijit> coz_, soreau is guiding me to solve that issue. nwo we need to do some comamnds with 'sudo......'
[14:26] <joiner> Hi
[14:26] <joiner> I use wine
[14:27] <joiner> and i want to run Chess FX
[14:27] <bazhang> !appdb | joiner
[14:27] <bazhang> joiner /join #winehq
[14:28] <joiner> outch!
[14:28] <coz_> joiner,   where you type for us to see here just type  /join #winehq
[14:28] <joiner> i know, i know
[14:29] <abhijit> soreau, atleast can you just post instruction to my forum question so that i can follow it afterwards when i go to admin account?
[14:30] <ronnie> Hi People, Im having issues booting Lucid over the network, using the same method used to boot Hardy, please help :(
[14:30] <ronnie> I have posted about it ont he forum but have had no reply
[14:30] <ronnie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9649581#post9649581
[14:31] <rooisto47> spooky, didn't work either, I've an authentication error
[14:31] <aeon-ltd> ronnie: check BIOS
[14:31] <andrew_332> anybody know how to setup mysql for zoneminder?
[14:31] <coz_> ronnie,  if no one can help here  you can also try the ##linux channel.... they may be able to help
[14:31] <rooisto47> spooky, and really don't see where is it, it's all correct my login and passwd
[14:32] <ronnie> aeon-ltd: It isnt Bios. Ive tried this on several machiens inc Virtualbox if you read forum~
[14:32] <spooky> are you using username@ymail as the username?
[14:33] <rooisto47> spooky, yes
[14:33] <spooky> try it without ymail.com?
[14:33] <rooisto47> ok
[14:33] <zrbecker> When you install something from source and your use --prefix /usr/local/program do you just delete that directory to "uninstall" the program?
[14:33] <raven> LVM "inactive volume group" ???
[14:34] <rooisto47> spooky, same error
[14:35] <R33D3M33R> Hi, anybody using empathy here?
[14:35] <USGIshimura> yep
[14:35] <andrew332> i cant get the web interface of zoneminder running, i think its my mysql settings, anyone able to help?
[14:36] <USGIshimura> R33D3M33r: how can I help
[14:36] <econdudeawesome> Hey y'all. Got a bit of a recurring problem I can't seem to figure out. When my computer boots, GDM doesn't come up and I have to log in through the command line. Usually not a problem, but it'd be nice if I could get GDM working right. I believe the problem lies with the NVidia driver, or something. Anyone have any idea?
[14:36] <tdn> How do I disable gnome-key-ring?
[14:36] <raven> LVM "inactive volume group" ???
[14:36] <R33D3M33R> well, I'm testing it, but it almost froze when I entered this channel, with 90% CPU usage :(
[14:36] <expack> I'm trying to get ati-driver-installer-10-7-x86.x86_64.run to execute because it will allow my ATI Radeon HD 5770 to run on Ubuntu.
[14:36] <expack> However, it won't execute
[14:36] <sameh_saeed> how can i connect myself to the internet . i am using vmware, and linux backtrack. plz give me any hint
[14:37] <USGIshimura> can't connect to internet using VMware that easily sameh
[14:37] <USGIshimura> R33DM33R: that's very odd
[14:37] <R33D3M33R> I know... the window manager said if I want to kill it, but i let it run and it works now
[14:38] <sameh_saeed> USGIshimura why not ? i am using the same vmware to connect ubunto, windows XP, and windows 2008 server
[14:38] <R33D3M33R> but it took more than 15 seconds for this channel to load
[14:38] <USGIshimura> sameh_saeed: it's not that easy
[14:39] <sameh_saeed> any suggestions ?
[14:39] <econdudeawesome> Hey y'all. Got a bit of a recurring problem I can't seem to figure out. When my computer boots, GDM doesn't come up and I have to log in through the command line. Usually not a problem, but it'd be nice if I could get GDM working right. I believe the problem lies with the NVidia driver, or something. Anyone have any idea? Perhaps the timing is off in grub?
[14:39] <tik> aeon-ltd: compiling mame 1.3 :P
[14:39] <tik> GDM?
[14:40] <aeon-ltd> tik: gnome desktop manager, the login manager for gnome
[14:40] <tik> oh ok
[14:40] <k0ral> does anyone know how to get write permission to debugfs partition ?
[14:40] <expack> OK let's try this again: I'm trying to get ati-driver-installer-10-7-x86.x86_64.run to execute because it will allow my ATI Radeon HD 5770 to run on Ubuntu. However, it won't execute by either double-clicking on it or by installing or opening it through the terminal.
[14:41] <k0ral> I mean : even as root, I cannot modify any file
[14:41] <tik> k0ral: is it mount in read only mount t in rw
[14:41] <R33D3M33R> expack: chmod it to +x
[14:41] <econdudeawesome> Any idea? Google seems pretty sparse on the subject ;-)
[14:41] <aeon-ltd> k0ral: encrypted?
[14:41] <k0ral> tik: I tried "-o rw" but it doesn't work, and nothing is encrypted
[14:41] <tik> econdudeawesome: did it work befor you installed the  nvidia drivers?
[14:42] <k0ral> aeon-ltd: nothing is encrypted
[14:42] <pyTopher> I've been using Ubuntu for a while now and I've noticed that after updating my grub has another Ubuntu choice with a different Linux version number, is there a way to get the ones with a lower version number not to show up?
[14:42] <monsoon> hi. can anyone point out tools to use to manage/monitor bandwidth usage of servers and PCs in a very small office network? i am looking at monitoring 5-6 webservers and about 6-8 other PCs on a small office network
[14:42] <ballbag> expack https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[14:42] <aeon-ltd> k0ral: mounted?
[14:42] <R33D3M33R> pyTopher: yes, unistall the older kernels in software center
[14:42] <econdudeawesome> tik I believe so--I install the system, works great, upgrade everything and add everything in (including the driver) and then the problem starts
[14:42] <raven> LVM "inactive volume group" ???
[14:43] <pyTopher> ok, thanks
[14:43] <monsoon> pyTopher: You will have to edit the config file. What i do is edit a file called /boot/grub/grub.cfg but there might be easier options
[14:43] <tik> i'd remove the nvidia-currert or w/e it is
[14:43] <tik> and start over.. rerun hardware update
[14:43] <ohir> monsoon: no, he need to remove old software, he is not about to use it
[14:43] <k0ral> aeon-ltd: what do you mean ?
[14:43] <econdudeawesome> tik I've had to reinstall the system a few times this week because of screwing up another partition (and deleting the partition install... I advise against doing that). Every time the same issue occurred
[14:43] <tik> "hardware drivers"
[14:43] <Q_Continuum> 10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?
[14:43] <ohir> pyTopher: use R33D3M33R advice
[14:44] <econdudeawesome> tik I'm pretty sure it's grub, but that's out of my element
[14:44] <k0ral> aeon-ltd: I mounted it by "mount -t debugfs -o rw none /sys/kernel/debug" as root
[14:44] <monsoon> ohir: no. what if the current kernel doesnt work properly? he would have nothing to revert to. but you can edit the grub.cfg to have 2 working kernels, and remove all those memtest ones. that's what i do
[14:44] <jeb_> hello
[14:44] <tik> econdudeawesome: same
[14:44] <windows7> ubuntu sucks
[14:44] <Dreaming> 终于我回来了
[14:45] <jeb_> I have some bad behaviour on my xubuntu machine
[14:45] <windows7> ubuntu ccrashes
[14:45] <abhijit> hwo to report bug against libwx?
[14:45] <econdudeawesome> well I just updated the kernel too, I'll restart and see if that doesn't fix it
[14:45] <Dreaming> 不是密码记错了，是名字错了
[14:45] <tik> ecanto: okz
[14:45] <monsoon> Dreaming: is that japanese or korean?
[14:45] <USGIshimura> it's Asian
[14:45] <monsoon> asian, lol
[14:45] <raven> LVM how to ACTIVATE an INACTIVE volume group?
[14:45] <pyTopher> ohir: I will
[14:45] <abhijit> !en | Dreaming
[14:45] <jeb_> I use evince to open pdf files. now since a while, the window that apears when starting evince has exactly the size of my screen, but the top left corner is located in the middle of the screen
[14:45] <tik> raven: heh
[14:46] <Dreaming> sorry, this is chinese :-(
[14:46] <ohir> monsoon: he already has new kernel working. If someone is enough linux-proficient to get back to older kernel one will not ask such question.
[14:46] <jeb_> therefore I's mostly out of screen. I can resize the window, but each new pdf file I open resets the position and size
[14:46] <USGIshimura> Asian*
[14:46] <jeb_> can I change that behaviour somewhere (e.g. window manager)?
[14:46] <k0sh> i want named (bind) to use hosts file before asking other dns'es, currently i have it cacheing mode that auto passes requests to other dns'es, any ideas how to do it?
[14:46] <monsoon> Dreaming: okay
[14:46] <tik> raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall might help
[14:47] <monsoon> ohir: if someone is NOT linux proficient, then they will need the older kernel to go back to in teh grub menu if the new kernel doesnt work
[14:47] <bazhang> !cn | Dreaming
[14:47] <R33D3M33R> omg, how can i disable the autoscroll in empathy? its awful :(
[14:47] <tik> raven: i think  you did something wrong
[14:48] <raven> it worked until the reboot
[14:48] <tik> screwed up fstab
[14:48] <monsoon> but mostly all kernels that are released work :)
[14:48] <tik> skip the part about creating
[14:48] <tik> and focus on fstab
[14:48] <USGIshimura> I'm going to join the chinese help
[14:48] <USGIshimura> since I can't speak chinese
[14:49] <raven> tik vgchange -a y activated it
[14:49] <bazhang> USGIshimura, excuse me?
[14:49] <monsoon> .. that doesnt make any sense
[14:49] <USGIshimura> bored, lol
[14:49] <ballbag> i can speak chinese... won ton soup and all that...
[14:49] <atol> irc.freenode.net
[14:49] <bazhang> USGIshimura, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:49] <atol> oups
[14:49] <tik> raven: sweet
[14:49] <atol> connect
[14:49] <bazhang> atol, you are here already
[14:49] <monsoon> atol: sure are connected, bro
[14:49] <tik> I know nothing about it :P
[14:50] <ballbag> shuldnt have said anything... coulda had passwords then...
[14:50] <Dreaming> thank you ubuttu
[14:50] <abhijit> hwo to report bug against libwx?
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> abhijit: launchpad.
[14:50] <tik> raven: so everything works? :P
[14:50] <raven> how to execute scripts at startup?
[14:50] <Dreaming> thank you bazhang
[14:50] <abhijit> aeon-ltd, hmm
[14:51] <monsoon> !bugzilla
[14:51] <bazhang> Dreaming, welcome
[14:51] <raven> tik yes now it works again but only manually
[14:51] <andrewax> Hi
[14:51] <bazhang> !bugs > abhijit
[14:51] <monsoon> oh. that's how it works
[14:51] <aeon-ltd> abhijit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[14:51] <tik> ravn: qrite up a quoick bash script andadd it to init.d
[14:51] <abhijit> bazhang, ok
[14:51] <andrewax> Do you noticed what Caps lock led doesn't works at console mode in Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:52] <raven> tik where is init.d?
[14:52] <tik> uhm /etc/init.d
[14:52] <aeon-ltd> andrewax: yes it does, it may be just your keyboard
[14:52] <monsoon> andrewax: it works fine. my password has caps locks usage in it
[14:52] <tik> it has start up scripts
[14:52] <tik> or you could add it to rc.local
[14:53] <raven> and where to add it in init.d?
[14:53] <tik> you dont
[14:53] <tik> you create a bash script first
[14:53] <Q_Continuum> 10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?
[14:53] <tik> and put the file in that dir
[14:53] <tik> cause it runs as root
[14:53] <topher_> R33D33M3R: thanks for the help
[14:54] <tik> bash scripts work  like this: 1st line #!bin/bash 2nd line commands you would normallytype
[14:54] <tik> ect
[14:54] <R33D3M33R> topher_: no problem
[14:54] <tik> each command gets a seperate line
[14:55] <tik> if you type the commands im PMI will tell you how to make it
[14:55] <kishajos> Üdv.
[14:56] <noahir> Have ubuntu something like daemons ?
[14:56] <noahir> where i can add program
[14:56] <noahir> and when system got restart
[14:56] <noahir> it will start at boot
[14:56] <FloodBot1> noahir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <tik> noahir: init.d
[14:56] <mkanyicy> noahir, /etc/init.d
[14:56] <noahir> what there ?
[14:56] <noahir> conf ?
[14:56] <noahir> isnt there
[14:56] <tik> you have to create a script
[14:57] <soreau> abhijit: Were you able to try it?
[14:57] <noahir> tor is default ?
[14:57] <noahir> ok
[14:57] <noahir> semms like is
[14:57] <tik> econdudeawesome: any luck?
[14:57] <raven> tik script file is now : "#!bin/bash ///////////////   vgchange -a y && mount -t ext3 /dev/homelvm/lv0 /home"
[14:57] <abhijit> soreau, now i am in admin account. now i have submiting bugs against that two 'wx' libraries.
[14:57] <tik> raven: ok
[14:57] <tik> whats the //////
[14:57] <red2kic> raven: vgchange -ay :)
[14:58] <econdudeawesome> tik, and for the log, to fix the issue I update my kernel, rebooted, ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and sudo update-grub
[14:58] <jeb_> just want to check back: have you guys not seen my question or does currently noone know the answer?
[14:58] <tik> and each command goes on a seperate line
[14:58] <econdudeawesome> tik I may have those commands backwars--let me check
[14:58] <mkanyicy> raven, is the -t option for mount still needed?
[14:58] <raven> tik ok
[14:58] <econdudeawesome> tik no thats right
[14:58] <raven> mkanyicy, not really
[14:58] <tik> econdudeawesome: sweet.. props
[14:58] <econdudeawesome> tik it worked for the moment, we'll see if it's a permanent fix
[14:59] <tik> im sure it is
[14:59] <econdudeawesome> I think the issue was the un-updated kernel with the nvidia driver
[14:59] <tik> zzzz stll compiling
[14:59] <tik> mine worked fine :P
[14:59] <econdudeawesome> tik adios!
[14:59] <tik> later
[14:59] <raven> tik so you mean new line at &&?
[14:59] <tik> no && is fine
[14:59] <tik> new line = when you wold hit enter in console
[14:59] <tik> would
[15:00] <raven> tik ok how to enter it in init.d now?
[15:00] <tik> update-rc.d scriptname defualts
[15:00] <tik> er
[15:00] <tik> defults
[15:00] <tik> er
[15:00] <FloodBot1> tik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <tik> defaults
[15:01] <tik> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:01] <Utrinqueparatus> i have no keyboard and mouse connected is there a way to enable remote desktop?
[15:01] <raven> tik?
[15:02] <UberN00b> hey there i tried installing checkgmail and i got that output "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)" mmm nay thoughts on that ?
[15:03] <Agiofws> hello
[15:03] <ZykoticK9> UberN00b, close any Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Cetner windows, then try again.
[15:03] <Agiofws> would it be wise to to paste this source list into ubuntu 10.4 sources list http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/  ?
[15:03] <ZykoticK9> UberN00b, or install using sudo?
[15:03] <Agiofws> where can i find the right analogy ?
[15:04] <UberN00b> Zykotick9 thatnks, sudo worked :)
[15:05] <ZykoticK9> Agiofws, do NOT paste that sources list!  it's for dapper so very old.
[15:05] <amateur> it's too many people....
[15:05] <Agiofws> ZykoticK9,   where can i find the right  one please ?
[15:05] <tik> hi
[15:05] <Agiofws> do i just change the dapper to the right word ?
[15:05] <amateur> tik: hello~
[15:06] <tik> raven: sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[15:06] <tik> just change the scriptname
[15:06] <raven> tik ok... i now entered it to boot
[15:07] <tik> ok
[15:07] <tik> it will run on next reboot
[15:07] <dshbusiness> Hello everyone. Please help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:07] <Agiofws> http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/   where can i find the right sources list ? for ubuntu 10.4 ?
[15:07] <wildlappy> how do I stop my screen dimming when not touched for about 5 mins, trying to watch a film on the lappy (running netbook remix)
[15:07] <ZykoticK9> Agiofws, i wouldn't, i doubt you will need those repos now (but i could be wrong, I don't use any of that software), but I'd guess it's all in the default repo, just try all the "apt-get install stuff" lines.  good luck
[15:07] <Agiofws> ok
[15:07] <tik> Agiofws: cracking WEP is lame
[15:08] <dshbusiness> At first I installed ubuntu 10.04
[15:08] <dshbusiness> I encrpted my /home
[15:08] <tik> pay for your internet access
[15:08] <dshbusiness> However, now, when I reinstalled OS. I just can't visit my home
[15:08] <dshbusiness> Can someone tell me how to deal with this situation?
[15:09] <ikonia> dshbusiness: you will have lost your encyption key with the install
[15:09] <tik> dshbusiness: better off doing a fresh install
[15:09] <dshbusiness> But now, How can I rescue my data?
[15:10] <ikonia> dshbusiness: you've lost your encyption key
[15:10] <tik> gl trying :(
[15:10] <Utrinqueparatus> is there a gconf command for removing password required for remote desktop?
[15:10] <Monkey_Dust> folx, I'm using irssi and need to know the ubuntu chatnet for the config file
[15:10] <tik> Utrinqueparatus: pretty secure...
[15:11] <ZykoticK9> dshbusiness, :o  i hope you didn't have anything important in your home directory.  best of luck man, i think you'll need it.  (i "doubt," but certainly don't "know" for sure, you'll get anything back)
[15:11] <dshbusiness> ikonia: Can I rescue my data on /home? They are important.
[15:11] <Utrinqueparatus> its only a 2 minute solution
[15:11] <ikonia> dshbusiness: I don't know/believe how to as you'll have lost your encyption key
[15:11] <Utrinqueparatus> i will be disabling remote dekstop straight after
[15:11] <tik> so why not just use the passwd?
[15:11] <Utrinqueparatus> i have no keyboard or mouse and need to change something in gui
[15:11] <Utrinqueparatus> cos i cant remember what i set it as
[15:11] <ohir> dshbusiness: unless you have your home partition backuped bit by bit (with dd) you have lost this data
[15:12] <ikonia> tik: they key will have changed, can he simpley use a password without the key that was used ?
[15:12] <tik> maybe
[15:12] <tik> idk
[15:12] <ohir> dshbusiness: encryption is exactly for that - so anyone, including you, can not acces data if one has no key
[15:12] <dshbusiness> ikonia: Thanks.
[15:12] <tik> i never encrypt
[15:12] <spooky> dshbusiness: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[15:12] <lungan> Having som anoying sound, like a big beeep when i for example press ctrl+f and write a word in firefox thats not on the site, or if I press backspace in chatwindow when already at start?
[15:13] <ballbag> utrinqueparatus, afaik all auth stuff is policykit and you need to edit xml files
[15:13] <nullkuhl> what is the name of the latest ubuntu's distro ?
[15:14] <soreau> ! lucid | nullkuhl
[15:14] <jrib> nullkuhl: ubuntu is the name of the latest ubuntu distro... the latest release is lucid lynx
[15:14] <tik> shower time
[15:14] <tik> bbl
[15:15] <abhijit> hmm
[15:15] <adityag> i want to remove TCP/IP stack from my kernel & reinstall it. Any solutions?
[15:15] <oCean_> tik: there is no need to announce away/afk/showertime
[15:15] <jrib> adityag: out of curiousity, why do you want to do that?
[15:15] <dshbusiness> ohir: I think I know the password if I have set it.
[15:15] <tik> ocean relax
[15:16] <oCean_> tik: ?
[15:16] <jrib> tik: he's just letting you know for the future
[15:16] <dshbusiness> ohir: but what should I do?
[15:16] <ohir> dshbusiness: so you have a key :)
[15:16] <tik> oh ok
[15:16] <tik> it wa an amsg
[15:16] <tik> was
[15:16] <adityag> jrib: its an assignment given to us in college
[15:17] <jrib> adityag: k
[15:17] <ohir> dshbusiness: follow HOWTO you have been given. (Manual mount)
[15:17] <jrib> !kernel > adityag
[15:17] <ballbag> why would one person going for a shower affect another's life?..
[15:17] <adityag> jrib: any solutions... ok'
[15:17] <ikonia> ballbag: that's nothing to do with ubuntu, please drop it
[15:17] <ikonia> !topic > ballbag
[15:17] <dshbusiness> ohir: Thanks, I will try it.
[15:18] <mrkiko> Hi all! I noticed that the ubuntu kernels can find partitions based on UUID while my own ones don't. Where can i find the adequatepatch? (if there is one)
[15:18] <ballbag> jeez, you cant even state the obvious without being bitched at...
[15:18] <jrib> !kernel > mrkiko
[15:18] <ikonia> ballbag: drop it
[15:19] <dshbusiness> ohir: well... Something is different... When I created that partition, my system is ubuntu. But now, it is fedora. Must I install a ubuntu again?
[15:20] <ballbag> ikonia is a mini hitler
[15:20] <ohir> dshbusiness: I do not know fedora enough to give you answer. In theory they should use same techniqe as ubuntu does.
[15:21] <dshbusiness> ohir: Thank you. Let me try.
[15:21] <terry> Any cd/dvd image creating software for ubuntu?
[15:21] <ohir> dshbusiness: find similar HOWTO in fedora docs and compare by self.
[15:22] <bazhang> terry, k9copy
[15:22] <terry> Does it mount images?
[15:22] <dshbusiness> ohir: OK
[15:22] <oCean_> terry: mount? or burn
[15:22] <terry> Mount!
[15:22] <ikonia> terry: you manually mount images
[15:23] <bazhang> !iso > terry
[15:23] <ixbidie> join #beagle
[15:23] <ZykoticK9> terry, the iso command bazhang just sent "should" work on any linux
[15:24] <ikonia_is_a_cock> the joys of dhcp...
[15:24] <Agiofws> apt-get install linux-headers  why wont 10.04  accept that command
[15:24] <terry> How to make an iso file?
[15:24] <nordle> Hi there, just used the usb-creator-gtk as have  pc without cdrom drive.  However, when booting the usb stick, it stops at "SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian  boot:"  Has anyone tried this?
[15:24] <edbian> Agiofws, What is it saying?
[15:24] <terry> With what software?
[15:25] <kishajos> hi everyone:)
[15:25] <Agiofws> it says something about  linux headers specific  package
[15:25] <ikonia> terry: mkisofs
[15:25] <oCean_> terry: mkisofs
[15:25] <Agiofws> edbian,  ?
[15:25] <kishajos> how can i see the room list ?
[15:25] <edbian> Agiofws, What's the error exactly.  Can you pastebin it?
[15:25] <ikonia> kishajos: depends on your client
[15:26] <erUSUL> Agiofws: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »  ?
[15:26] <ixbidie> such einfach deine kernelnummer :P
[15:26] <edbian> try /USERLIST
[15:26] <cannonball> I seeking help with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error.. Please, Thanks
[15:26] <edbian> cannonball, What are you trying to do that is giving that error?
[15:26] <kishajos> re
[15:27] <edbian> cannonball, does /dev/sda1 show up in the output of sudo fdisk -l
[15:27] <cannonball> boot
[15:27] <edbian> ??
[15:27] <kishajos> so i'm using Xchat Gnome:)
[15:27] <Agiofws> erUSUL,   thank you
[15:27] <ixbidie> there should be a number on the bottom left
[15:27] <edbian> cannonball, Oh, you're moved your partitions around?  You probably need to boot a live CD and edit your /etc/fstab.
[15:27] <ixbidie> with the number of users
[15:27] <oCean_> !who | ixbidie
[15:28] <ixbidie> !tab
[15:28] <ixbidie> ...
[15:28] <Utrinqueparatus> typ utri then press tab
[15:28] <mrkiko> ok
[15:29] <mrkiko> but I can't understand where ubuntu specific patches are... :)
[15:30] <kishajos> !tab
[15:30] <kishajos> Is there anyone who play games on Linux?:)
[15:30] <soreau> kishajos: sure
[15:30] <ixbidie> kishajos, sure :P
[15:31] <kishajos> I want to play Counter-Strike, or something like that
[15:31] <ixbidie> kishajos, for that, u have to emulate windows.
[15:31] <arc01> kishajos, you'd probably first need Wine and then install CS
[15:31] <kishajos> but CS is only for Win
[15:31] <ixbidie> kishajos, Wine emulates windows and than it's no prob
[15:32] <soreau> ! games | kishajos
[15:32] <ixbidie> kishajos, http://www.winehq.org/
[15:32] <kishajos> Ooh, and it doesn't will be very slow?
[15:32] <arc01> ixbidie, true. however there's no guarantee after all that it'll run. (warcraft didnt for me :( )
[15:32] <spooky> kishajos: I play WoW on Ubuntu using wine...plays just fine!
[15:32] <kishajos> Thank you for the links:D
[15:32] <kishajos> and the helps
[15:32] <kishajos> :)
[15:32] <geirha> kishajos: http://appdb.winehq.org/  counter strike: source is listed under top 10 platinum. That's good news ;)
[15:33] <kishajos> i will watch these links
[15:33] <ixbidie> kishajos, Yeah, Wow is the only game i tried witth wine, but it
[15:33] <ixbidie> ..s no garantue ..
[15:33] <nchand> I had better performance playing WoW under wine actually
[15:33] <kishajos> oh:)
[15:33] <nchand> than in windows
[15:33] <spooky> I have to play it in Windows-mode though :-x
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> may i ask , why i cant extract xampp-linux-1.7.3a.tar.gz completely. it always return these errors
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> lampp/var/perl/
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> lampp/var/perl/cpan/
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> lampp/var/perl/cpanplus/
[15:33] <dark-PrincE> lampp/RELEASENOTES
[15:33] <FloodBot1> dark-PrincE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <pyTopher> nordle: I just used usb-creator-gtk with a linux mint iso and it booted fine on my spare computer, maybe try remaking the usb
[15:34] <spooky> dark-PrincE: Sound slike the archive is corrupt
[15:34] <bazhang> !xampp > dark-PrincE
[15:34] <spooky> re-download
[15:34] <Traveler7> Hi! How can I use my pendrive from ubuntu? /var/log/messages shows the new usb device, but after the usb-storage don't show the partitions.
[15:35] <roydude> Hey folks,  I've outgrown 2TB disks... I want to cluster disks together, but I want expandability that Raid 5 doesn't offer (stuck to identical disk sizes).  Anyone have any tips?  Besides the Drobo?  I'm thinking of a DYI box.
[15:35] <ixbidie> Traveler7, whats a pendrive?
[15:35] <sam8> ixbidie pendrive alias usb drive
[15:35] <nordle> pyTopher:  Thats exactly what I'm trying, ie mint :)   I think its a perms thing.  Did yours create the files using user:group from your install rather than root:root etc  As it wont see casper/vmlinux  but its there.  And I can't change the perms back.
[15:35] <pippo_> we
[15:35] <pippo_> we
[15:35] <pippo_> we
[15:35] <pippo_> we
[15:35] <FloodBot1> pippo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <erUSUL> roydude: lvm ?
[15:36] <nchand> roydude: LVM?
[15:36] <roydude> Googling LVM
[15:36] <kishajos> And what do you think of PlayOnLinux? It seems like Wine
[15:36] <Utrinqueparatus> its a rip of cedega
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <dark-PrincE> spooky ; i have redownloaded it four times
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <rkenned> Anyone have any idea why a wifi card wouldn't work in Pinguy (based on Ubuntu 10.04), but it would work fine in Ubuntu 10.04 while using the same driver?
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <oCean_> pippo_: stop please
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <dark-PrincE> and it always return the same error
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <pippo_> WE
[15:36] <nchand> kishajos: Just use wine, all these other places that charge are just using a wine base anyway
[15:36] <edbian> rkenned, Perhaps the driver has been updated...
[15:37] <ixbidie> Traveler7, have a look on /dev
[15:37] <kishajos> okay, thanks nchand
[15:37] <kishajos> I will install it :)
[15:37] <pyTopher> nordle: it made the files with my user permissions, did you use sudo?
[15:37] <kishajos> Sorry for my bad english, but i'm only 14 years old:D
[15:37] <roydude> erUSUL: nchand:  does it features redundancy?  in case a drive fails that I can swap drives?
[15:37] <rkenned> I'll take a look, I think its the exact same version number on the drivers though
[15:37] <nchand> kishajos: get wintricks as well, just google the steps, super easy
[15:37] <Traveler7> ixbidie: Simple usb-stick. Should be recognized as sd device.
[15:37] <tik> any ideas on how to get a joystick working in wine?
[15:38] <ixbidie> Traveler7, with what program du u try do access?
[15:38] <oCean_> Traveler7: immediately after plugin, what does 'dmesg' output?
[15:38] <erUSUL> roydude: lvm has different "modes" some of them mapt to raid modes ( stripping; mirror etc ... )
[15:38] <dark-PrincE> may i ask , why i cant extract xampp-linux-1.7.3a.tar.gz completely. it always return these errors
[15:39] <nchand> roydude: I've just used lvm on top of raids for work
[15:39] <dark-PrincE> gzip stdin ; invalid compresoon data - crc error
[15:39] <jrib> dark-PrincE: don't use xampp...
[15:39] <bazhang> !xampp | dark-PrincE
[15:39] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, Why do u want to use xampp?
[15:39] <nordle> pyTopher:  I did not  sudo, I got my user perms too.....weird.  I will  try again.  Maybe try Fat16 not Fat32.....clutching at straws.  It's a 1GB stick and linuxmint 9 lxde is circa 570mb.
[15:39] <jrib> !lamp > dark-PrincE
[15:39] <oCean_> dark-PrincE: no you cannot ask here
[15:39] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, lol, mass attack on dark-prince :P
[15:40] <dark-PrincE> owh , okay. im sorry
[15:40] <dark-PrincE> no no , doont attack me. im new here
[15:40] <dark-PrincE> :)
[15:40] <dark-PrincE> so i dont know
[15:40]  * hamitron fluffles dark-PrincE
[15:40] <janos> some people can helpme with grub ubuntu10.04
[15:40] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, not ment evil, but as u can see nobody here likes to use XAMPP :P
[15:40] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, And on GNU/Linux u really don'tr have to
[15:40] <abhijit> !ask | janos
[15:41] <ixbidie> janos, What do u need?
[15:41] <dark-PrincE> ixbidie : have any replacement for xampp?
[15:41] <bodom> Hello,
[15:41] <bodom> I'm trying to set up NIS server but service NIS start hangs on startup. I'm following this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[15:41] <dark-PrincE> i kinda need it
[15:41] <jrib> dark-PrincE: the bot just gave it to you, at least two times
[15:41] <oCean_> dark-PrincE: read the message
[15:41] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, mysql-server, apache2, proftp
[15:42] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, and LAMP :PÜ
[15:42] <pyTopher> nordle: you said it wont find casper/vmlinux?  the file I have  is casper/vmlinuz
[15:42] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean: The kernel can not recognize it. /var/log/messages shows ehci messages, "new speed USB device,. ..".
[15:42] <ixbidie> dark-PrincE, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP
[15:42] <dark-PrincE> oh , i see then. thanks ixbidie
[15:43] <raven> tik tnx for your help
[15:43] <raven> tik its working again ;)
[15:43] <Xaifas> sshd_config edited/ hosts_allow edited/ iptables flushed/ no firewall / port is open/ sshd is running/ YET i get connection time out when i try to connect. Any ideas?
[15:43] <Xaifas> for openssh server that is
[15:43] <ManDay> After installing Ubuntu and partitioning with Ubuntu I get     FATA ERROR: Bad primary partition X: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder     on all my disks - Did ubuntu screw my disks??!
[15:43] <nordle> pyTopher:  Thanks for checking, sorry, typo on my part.  Did you tell usb-creator-gtk to "discard changes" or "allocate xxxmb to changes"?  I'm trying again with discard.
[15:44] <jrib> Xaifas: router?
[15:44] <ixbidie> Traveler7, ignoring that fact, just try to mount per console manualy
[15:44] <CAPcap> alright so ive been having a lot of problems with my panels recently. is this a common problem with 10.04? maybe its just my old computer? or maybe my panels have some corrupted files? they load incorrectly the majority of the time. sometimes its just like a little white bar - something that doesnt effect function, but sometimes the applets load in the wrong spot, dont load at all, load with the wrong settings, or load on top of another
[15:44] <CAPcap> so that i cant get to the one under it.
[15:45] <Xaifas> Hm, what exactly should I tweak on my router, need to do forwarding?
[15:45] <ixbidie> Traveler7, often, it return messages much more useful to u
[15:45] <jrib> Xaifas: for one, yeah.  Can you connect locally?
[15:45] <Xaifas> locally yes
[15:45] <jrib> Xaifas: "ssh localhost" i mean
[15:45] <pyTopher> nordle: no those options were greyed out
[15:45] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean: Curious, that now it recognizes the pendrive..., Usually after bootup it doesn't work.
[15:45] <bodom> anybody?
[15:46] <Xaifas> from any other box I can't, guess i'll look into forwarding
[15:46] <oCean_> Traveler7: weird.. maybe the re-connect solved the issue
[15:46] <ManDay> After installing Ubuntu and partitioning with Ubuntu I get     FATA ERROR: Bad primary partition X: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder     on all my disks - Did ubuntu screw my disks??!
[15:46] <ManDay> does it work for you?
[15:46] <grkblood> what is a video editing tool that i can use to slow down certain frames of a video files
[15:46] <jrib> Xaifas: yes, if there's a router in between, you need to forward to the server
[15:46] <grkblood> file*
[15:46] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean: When it works, /var/log/messages seems the partitions, and nautilus opens the drive automatically. After bootup (when doesn't work) it knows the usb device, but not the partitions, etc.
[15:47] <ixbidie> Traveler7, i hate runtime system cahcnges -.-
[15:47] <dark-PrincE> grkblood : avidemux maybe?
[15:48] <grkblood> dark-PrincE, i dont think avidemux can do that
[15:48] <wedwo> in synaptic, what's the difference between *Remove and *Remove Completely?
[15:48] <CAPcap> wedwo remove completely removes all associated configuration files
[15:49] <CAPcap> wedwo and i believe it also removes all associated files that no other program is dependent on.
[15:49] <nordle> pyTopher:  greyed out.  wtf.  I luv computers :)    damnit, same result.   I even used gparted to destroy and start again.  AND told usb-creator-gtk to "erase the disk".  The files are there, the boot loader is on the stick, it loads syslinux.  It just wont see the kernel image "Could  not find kernel image: casper/vmlinuz"
[15:49] <wedwo> CAPcap, so *Remove doesn't remove dependencies?
[15:50] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean_: I hate it too. I don't know, why is this. Maybe uhci driver gets to work later. Is it required?
[15:50]  * guampa can't believe he has been using pidgin instead of kvirc all this time for irc'ing
[15:50] <CAPcap> wedwo, remove just removes that one item. and possibly anything that will break if you remove it
[15:50] <CAPcap> that second bit im not sure about
[15:50] <wedwo> CAPcap, Gotit, thanks muchly
[15:50] <oCean_> Traveler7: I really have no clue, sorry.
[15:51] <nordle> pyTopher: I know the linuxmint lxde cd ISO is ok too because I've booted it under VirtualBox.
[15:51] <CAPcap> wedwo youbetcha
[15:51] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean_: I try a reboot, maybe I will have more data. It's really weird.. Thanx the help.
[15:51] <olskolirc> quit
[15:52] <CAPcap> alright so ive been having a lot of problems with my panels recently. is this a common problem with 10.04? maybe its just my old computer? or maybe my panels have some corrupted files? they load incorrectly the majority of the time. sometimes its just like a little white bar - something that doesnt effect function, but sometimes the applets load in the wrong spot, dont load at all, load with the wrong settings, or load on top of another
[15:52] <CAPcap> so that i cant get to the one under it.
[15:52] <pyTopher> nordle: i'm stumped.  I'm new to Linux and i've been trying lots of different distros
[15:52] <pyTopher> nordle: sorry I couldn't help
[15:53] <nchand> bodom: it hangs when you start it from /etc/init.d?
[15:53] <gNewPower> Hi, sometimes in 10.04 X goes fails.  What is the easiest way to restart it from the CLI. Thanks.
[15:53] <guampa> CAPcap: hae you tried resetting gpanels config?
[15:53] <CAPcap> guampa, how do i do that?
[15:53] <ringtenniswm8> Hey ho :)
[15:53] <nordle> pyTopher:  Cheers mate, appreciate the replies, at least I know it _should_ work.  I'll keep trying.  I'll also try other distros and maybe on another PC just in case its something freaky.
[15:54] <bodom> nchand: yes, hangs on "Binding to YP server..."
[15:55] <pyTopher> nordle: good luck
[15:56] <guampa> capcap: try this in a terminal "rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel"
[15:56] <nchand> bodom: and does it work when your server normally starts? Or does it hang there also?
[15:57] <bodom> nchand: do you mean on reboot?
[15:57] <nchand> bodom: correct
[15:57] <bodom> nchand: no, it does the same
[15:58] <skumara> !paste skumara
[15:58] <nchand> bodom: it sounds very similar to an issue someone was talking about not long ago, im trying to find info mate.
[15:59] <bodom> nchand: ty
[16:00] <cannonball> anyone able to help me with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error? please, thanks
[16:01] <Traveler7> Hi! I captured the /var/log/messages: http://pastebin.org/436210 That's all, when I plug-in my pendrive into the up-to-date ubuntu desktop.
[16:01] <skumara> just now ubuntu did not detect my wireless and bradband. I some how fixed the wireless. see pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/471495/  now how to fix my broadband?
[16:02] <hamitron> nothing wrong with pidgin ;)
[16:02] <oCean_> Traveler7: I plugged an usbkey in, and saw that usb_storage gets loaded. That's the one not loaded at boottime. Try adding usb_storage in /etc/modules
[16:02] <martianixor> Audio suddenly stopped, where to look?
[16:02] <martianixor> what info is needed?
[16:03] <cannonball> anyone able to help me with a /dev/sda1 does not exist error? please, thanks
[16:03] <Mike_Flip79> anyone know a good virus scanner that can scan my winxp partition
[16:04] <hamitron> clamav
[16:04] <IdleOne> !clamav
[16:04] <IdleOne> !virus
[16:04] <martianixor> snd-ac97xx is loaded ... lspci -vvvv lists the audio devices
[16:04] <iceman_> hello
[16:04] <c3l> how can I find y computers external IP without logging in?
[16:04] <MisterK85> Hi everyone. I have a stack of movies (.avi/.mpg) and I'm trying to make them smaller (they're around 700MB each and I want them around 350-400MB), any ideas on what I should use?
[16:04] <picard1421> hey, ok so im having a problem... sometimes when i bootup and login.. i get the promting to do face authenticatino.. Other times when i boot up,, i dont get any prompts and X crashes and goes to CLI???
[16:04] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/NW0nHvSz
[16:05] <martianixor> tried to restart alsa using alsa-utils restart/reload/reset
[16:05] <Traveler7> oCean_: I've tried to load it by hand, and it worked.
[16:05] <picard1421> that is my KDM config file... and like i said sometimes it works fine.. sometimes it doesnt at all... is there something im doing wrong???
[16:05] <skumara> hi. my hwawei modem was working last week. now it is not working anymore. ?
[16:05] <oCean_> Traveler7: adding to /etc/modules will load it at boottime. Then it should be available after (re)boot
[16:05] <Traveler7> oCean_: Don't you know, what loaded the module sometimes? During runtime!
[16:05] <martianixor> thanks anyway
[16:06] <ixbidie> Traveler7, Maybe nautilus itself ... :P
[16:06] <iceman_> hi
[16:06] <th_> hi all
[16:06] <c3l> how can I find y computers IP without logging in?
[16:06] <vbnm> hi
[16:06] <tik> ifconfig
[16:07] <vbnm> mn
[16:07] <tik> or some screenlets widgets
[16:07] <vbnm> rough
[16:07] <th_> im doing dual screen with ati. everything works perfect. should I use xinerama or atis own system?
[16:07] <Traveler7> ixibide: I think when I plug-in a pendrive, the kernel identifies it as an usb device, after it loads the appropriate drive (i.e. usb-storage), after nautilus recognizes this...
[16:07] <Traveler7> ixibide, oCean: I only don't know, why doesn't usb-storage loaded automatically?
[16:08] <picard1421> ???
[16:08] <oCean_> Traveler7: I don't know either. Add 'usb_storage' to /etc/modules should fix the problem
[16:08] <ixbidie> Traveler7, oCean_: How can i add a usb storrage by hand in the /etc/modules?
[16:08] <martianixor> syslog is full of pulseaudio
[16:09] <nchand> bodom: Try http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=118023 as a start. There was more to it, but I can't seem to locate the link
[16:09] <Traveler7> ixibide, oCean_: If I put usb-storage to /etc/modules; will it cause some extra careful during upgrades?
[16:09] <oCean_> ixbidie: Traveler7 it's just a plain text file
[16:09] <ixbidie> Traveler7, oCean_: Just -> cat >> /etc/modules?
[16:09] <oCean_> Traveler7: it's usb_storage (underscore!)
[16:09] <oCean_> ixbidie: edit the file in your favorite texteditor (vi, nano, gedit)
[16:09] <bodom> nchand: the link doesn't open :(
[16:09] <ixbidie> oCean_, ah, okay got it
[16:09] <th_> is the Transmission the best torrent client for a linux?
[16:09] <ixbidie> oCean_, joe M(
[16:09] <notme> c3l: what do you mean?
[16:10] <Traveler7> ixibide, oCean_: echo "usb-storage" >> /etc/modules :) Will an upgrade owerwrite the file?
[16:10] <oCean_> th_ there is no 'best'
[16:10] <IdleOne> !best | th_
[16:10] <nchand> bodom: check Debian bugs 118023
[16:10] <janos> some people can help with the busybox problem "!alert /deV/uu-id does not exist!"
[16:10] <ixbidie> Traveler7, Don't know, just edit it wit htexteditor :P
[16:10] <oCean_> Traveler7: mind you: it is usb_storage *underscore* !!
[16:10] <picard1421> also whats the difference between making a flashdrive a LIVE CD or making it a Bootable harddrive??? im not sure which direction to go?
[16:10] <th_> oCean_ ubottu I have faced some bugs.
[16:10] <c3l> notme: my computer is not where I am, and I want to connect to it via SSH, to do that I need its IP, and I dont want to give my login credentials to the person at the computer
[16:11] <k0sh> http://ubuntuone.com/p/BBk/ \o/ ubuntu is so awesome i cant stop having fun with it :)
[16:11] <Traveler7> oCean_: I don't think it matters that - or _ ,but thanks the info, I'll use this.
[16:11] <skumara> when i lsusb i can see my modem but i dont see modem in connection list. why?
[16:11] <vbnm> vlc from where
[16:11] <Mike_Flip79> I heard clam av has a low hitrate from Apachez @ ##security
[16:12] <vbnm> nchand hiiiii
[16:12] <vbnm> #wikipedia
[16:12] <nchand> bodom: probably not a fix, but should get you started in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more help, I just remember seeing it not long back
[16:12] <notme> c3l: is it in you lan? or over wan
[16:12] <vbnm> hi
[16:12] <FloodBot1> vbnm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <bodom> nchand: I'm checking it, ty for help
[16:12] <Tniffoc> Why would I be getting invalid mount option while trying to mount an NTFS file system via the GUI
[16:12] <Tniffoc> ?
[16:12] <th_> k0sh, where the hell do you live?
[16:12] <k0sh> th_: poland :)
[16:13] <oCean_> th_ please mind your language here
[16:13] <th_> k0sh, okay... it gets dark pretty early
[16:13] <th_> oCean_, what do you mean?
[16:14] <Tniffoc> oCean_, Quite honestly, hell is fairly widely accepted. Other curses I could understand but that could be a bit excessive
[16:14] <ixbidie> th_: he means "hell" i guess :PÜ
[16:14] <IdleOne> th_: Please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like chatting, #ubuntu is for support discussion
[16:14] <th_> okay okay :(
[16:14] <IdleOne> thank you
[16:14] <oCean_> Tniffoc: that is besides the point. Also, not up for discussion in this channel.
[16:15] <Traveler7> ixbidie, oCean_: Thanks the help! I do a reboot to test it.
[16:16] <th_> actually I have one Q not answered: I have a dual screen setup with ATI video card. Should I use the xinerama or not? It works perfectly at both ways
[16:16] <IdleOne> th_: if it aint broke....
[16:17] <c3l> notme: I have another computer which I do have acces to, which is located on lan with th other computer, so I do have both lan and wan (if I knew the ip) access
[16:17] <picard1421> so guys wahts the advantage of booting a LiveCD vs.. booting up like installing it like a harddrive for a usb drive??
[16:17] <Tniffoc> picard1421, hard drive install is faster and it has a filesyste
[16:17] <Tniffoc> m
[16:18] <picard1421> even on USB drive?
[16:18] <ixbidie> picard1421, much faster?
[16:18] <Tniffoc> picard1421, especially on a USB drive.
[16:18] <picard1421> how would i go about setting up a filesystem/ harddrive setup on a usb drive
[16:18] <th_> IdleOne, yes thats wise. xinerama is running now but i hate running inappropriate apps
[16:18] <magicianlord> picard1421: yes, hard drive or solid state drive is faster than usb. although, it is possible to install ubuntu to usb. i have ran it.
[16:18] <notme> c3l: i just ask you if it's in your lan because then you can know it's ip by using a netscanner
[16:18] <Tniffoc> picard1421, well you would just mount your filesystem of choice on boot
[16:18] <Tniffoc> or chroot it
[16:18] <_pg_> !mintsupport
[16:18] <kishajos> hello again
[16:19] <kishajos> i've got a problem
[16:19] <kishajos> I installed Wine
[16:19] <magicianlord> picard1421: you install to the usb drive, then select advanced during the boot loader screen and select /dev/sdb, to install boot loader to the drive instead
[16:19] <Tniffoc> kishajos, theres your issue. ;D
[16:19] <th_> btw Internet told me that Gnome should support 2 different wallpapers for 2 screens. But I cant figure out how :S
[16:19] <ixbidie> kishajos, what went wrong?
[16:19] <kishajos> I Can't open any file with Wine
[16:19] <Tniffoc> mondragon, your name sounds familiar. Where do you live?
[16:19] <kishajos> I get a Wrong message
[16:19] <kishajos> i tried Steam installer
[16:20] <kishajos> and i tried the CD
[16:20] <ixbidie> kishajos, Did u configured Wine ?
[16:20] <kishajos> no
[16:20] <c3l> notme: tell me more! :)
[16:20] <Tniffoc> kishajos, Try running notepad.exe first. And make sure to check WineHQ before running more complex programs
[16:20] <picard1421> hmm
[16:20] <picard1421> wont it give me an option for GRUB bootloader?
[16:21] <th_> Internet told me that Gnome should support 2 different wallpapers for 2 screens. But I cant figure out how :S
[16:21] <Tniffoc> picard1421, Ubuntu automatically uses GRUB2 as its bootlaoder when you install
[16:21] <nordle> pyTopher:  joy :)  Tried a diferent ISO and it worked.  I went back to check the iso and while its called "i386", the properties say AMD64.  So looks like the iso is the wrong one.
[16:21] <notme> c3l: just install nmap, menawhile figure out your own ip and netmask, with those you can determine the netblock to scan
[16:21] <picard1421> so when its installing grub or partitioning HD's
[16:21] <picard1421> where is this secret menu
[16:21] <Tniffoc> picard1421, What secret menu...
[16:21] <notme> c3l: then you scan the netblock looking for the tcp port you want, which i assume is 22
[16:21] <pyTopher> nordle: hooray!
[16:21] <picard1421> what am i Configing to make the USB drive bootable
[16:21] <kishajos> Notepad works
[16:21] <Doonz> hey guys can someone point me to a how-to on how to use multiple byobu sessions together
[16:22] <kishajos> :D
[16:22] <magicianlord> picard1421: after the installer finishes, it will ask you to confirm where to install the boot loader
[16:22] <picard1421> ok..
[16:22] <magicianlord> you should select advanced
[16:22] <magicianlord> then select the usb drive, not the local hard drive of your machien
[16:23] <picard1421> so when its asking about the GRUB
[16:23] <magicianlord> be aware that installing to a usb drive will normally take a long time
[16:23] <magicianlord> yes, GRUB
[16:23] <picard1421> how about booting off hte usb drive?  i understand install will be a pain?
[16:23] <vivek243> hellow everyone....
[16:23] <picard1421> actual use off usb drive
[16:23] <magicianlord> the install is not a pain. you just have to put the boot loader on the usb drive instead
[16:23] <vivek243> happy friendship day..
[16:24] <skumara> what is ttyusb0 command for?
[16:24] <c3l> notme: is netmask this: Mask:255.255.240.0 ?
[16:24] <magicianlord> booting off it, you have to select to boot from a usb drive while your computer boots. this is usually done by pressing a function key, like F10 to bring up a menu that allows you to boot from the local hard drive, from cd, or usb, etc.
[16:24] <notme> yes
[16:24] <grzesag> Hi I am ruuning web server on my ubuntu server. How I can see if someone is connected to my box please?
[16:24] <adityag> i am installing adobe flash builder on 10.04& the installation requires eclipse root folder. i cant locate the root folder. can any one help me pls
[16:24] <rlankfo> grzesag: connected via http?
[16:25] <notme> c3l, "ip r" gives the best output
[16:25] <vivek243> adityag do u have eclipse?
[16:25] <grzesag> rlankfo: yes or in generall
[16:25] <rlankfo> grzesag: netstat -a | more
[16:25] <adityag> vivek243: i just installed from synaptic
[16:25] <vivek243> ok start it..
[16:25] <c3l> notme: oh thanks
[16:25] <adityag> started
[16:26] <vivek243> adityag u will get the option to locate the workspace folder...
[16:26] <notme> c3l: it'l pray some like "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/mmm"
[16:26] <adityag>  vivek243: yes, but i need a root folder, thats a local user folder'
[16:26] <bodom> nchand: solved! I've missed to run /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m
[16:27] <notme> just write down that string (look for the line where "dev" is your net device that's connected to the network)
[16:27] <vivek243> adityag ok...i got ur point..
[16:27] <adityag> vivek243: i have to install flash builder as a plugin in Eclipse.
[16:27] <vivek243> adityag sorry but ii have no solution....so sorry..
[16:28] <adityag> i am installing adobe flash builder on 10.04 as a pulgin in Eclipse & the installation requires eclipse root folder. i cant locate the root folder. can any one help me pls
[16:28] <guest> sudo bash  ?
[16:29] <jpds> guest: sudo -i
[16:29] <notme> c3l: how did it went?
[16:29] <vivek243> adityag locate to /var/cache/apt/archive
[16:29] <vivek243> adityag i think it will do.
[16:29] <cannonball> can anyone help me with a "/dev/sda1 does not exist" error please, thanks
[16:30] <magicianlord> cannonball: what
[16:30] <dshbusiness> ohir: I have mount my /home successfully. Thank you very much!
[16:30] <cannonball> thats what I get when trying to boot ubuntu
[16:30] <guest> adityag: find eclipse /
[16:31] <magicianlord> cannonball: reinstall grub to /dev/sda using live cd
[16:31] <Fernandos> hi
[16:31] <Fernandos> ubuntu asks me for the wifi password altough it is correct. I can't go online with wifi. Why???
[16:31] <th_> Fernandos, wrong pass?
[16:32] <rsvp> is having grub on a separate partition REALLY necessary? if so what are the advantages?
[16:32] <Fernandos> no it's absolutely correct
[16:32] <Fernandos> I triple checked that
[16:32] <th_> is the encryption correct?
[16:32] <c3l> notme: im getting two lines of that kind: 83.226.xxx.x/20 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 83.226.secret.xx  metric 1 and 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
[16:32] <Fernandos> th_: yes I can only choose WPA+WPA2 anyway
[16:33] <Fernandos> it works in windows with the same settings
[16:33] <deathkitten> hey, this is offtopic but no one's answering in other channels and I really need some help with this, I figured this might actually be not too bad a place to ask since a lot of open source and possibly EFF supporters here... I've had a DMCA sent to me abusively to try intimidate and would like to discuss it with someone, anyone know if there's an IRC server/chan for for www.chillingeffects.org related stuff at all?
[16:33] <notme> c3l: don't worry about the second one, it's been setup by avahi-daemon for its autodiscovery mechanism
[16:33] <rww> ubottu: ot | deathkitten
[16:33] <th_> Fernandos, maybe try to disable the whole password thing and try if it works
[16:34] <notme> c3l: copy the other one exactly in its form, in the clipboard
[16:34] <keystr0k> Anyone here using duplicity. I want to delete old backups that are local, not no a server... just need verification on this...
[16:34] <Fernandos> th_: are you saying I shall open my wifi network to others?
[16:34] <c3l> notme: okay, but the thing is that the computers arent getting local ips, im getting static ips for each computer from my isp. I dont have a router, only a swich
[16:34] <th_> Fernandos, yes for a while?
[16:34] <cannonball> can anyone help me get ubuntu to boot
[16:34] <rlankfo> Fernandos: temporarily
[16:35] <rlankfo> Fernandos: what NIC do you have
[16:35] <MarkSS> Why do most installers need admin privileges?
[16:35] <notme> c3l: but your isp doesn't matter, as the comps are in the same lan... at least that's what i understood
[16:35] <rlankfo> MarkSS: for example?
[16:35] <MarkSS> .bin
[16:35] <MarkSS> oops
[16:35] <Fernandos> rlankfo: how do I find that out?
[16:35] <MarkSS> I mean...
[16:35] <c3l> notme: you mean the '83.226.144.0/20' part?
[16:35] <MarkSS> Wait...does .bin need admin privileges?  I read somewhere never
[16:35] <notme> yes
[16:35] <b4nnd1t> Cannonball: what happens when you try to boot?
[16:35] <c3l> notme: correcy, but theyre not getting a local ip, but they are on lan
[16:36] <dshbusiness> How can I see the empty space of my u-disk via command line?
[16:36] <rlankfo> Fernandos: you could open up the machine and look at the card.. lspci might give you some info
[16:36] <notme> c3l: got it, another way (if this doesn't work) it's to sniff a little onyour lan traffic
[16:36] <ncurses> c3l, i  think that\s because you are connected to the modem and the modem broadcasts your static ip's
[16:36] <rlankfo> Fernandos: if you are dual booting you could use something like pcwizard in windwos
[16:36] <notme> c3l: have you installed nmap already?
[16:36] <ixbidie> dshbusiness, df
[16:36] <Fernandos> rlankfo: Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 1000 Series
[16:36] <MarkSS> I read recently on Ubuntu forums that most installers tend to need admin privileges and I am wondering why.
[16:37] <notme> ncurses: i don't follow
[16:37] <dshbusiness> ixbidie: Thanks!
[16:37] <c3l> notme: yap, got nmap
[16:37] <ixbidie> dshbusiness, np
[16:37] <guest> dshbusiness: df -h
[16:37] <spooky> Marine_: Might not actually admin, but might require sudo as an extra step to prevent users from carelessly installing malicious stuff...like Microsoft's UAC
[16:37] <spooky> That was for MarkSS...sorry
[16:38] <martianixor> OK
[16:38] <rww> MarkSS: Umm, because they want to write to directories that aren't owned by the user, like /usr/loca/bin/ or /opt/ ?
[16:38] <MarkSS> Ah!  That makes sense
[16:38] <Fernandos> rlankfo: does that help?
[16:39] <Fernandos> rlankfo: I don't know why I can't connect with wifi :(
[16:39] <rlankfo> Fernandos: i had a similar problem that was specific to a broadcom NIC, so doesn't appear you are having the same problem
[16:39] <notme> c3l: minute
[16:39] <Fernandos> maybe maybe not.. I don't know
[16:39] <Fernandos> rlankfo: how did you fix it?
[16:39] <meLon> I had public key authentication on my computer working.  I login as another local user to perform a couple of tasks.  It was working perfectly and then I played around and ultimately changed the permissions of the other user's home directory.  Now I am being prompted with a password.  I'm not 100% sure that it's a permission issue, as I believe you get an ERROR when trying to login and the keys have bad permissions, but I am looking for the s
[16:39] <meLon> olution.  Thanks
[16:39] <MarkSS> .bin installation of Google Earth's Linux installs to those directories with or without admin access though
[16:40] <rlankfo> Fernandos: ndiswrapper
[16:40] <martianixor> ubottu: answered
[16:40] <rww> MarkSS: Presumably, if it doesn't require admin access, it's installing to somewhere in your home directory
[16:40] <Fernandos> rlankfo: would you say I should install ndiswrapper ?
[16:40] <MarkSS> Are admin access and sudo access the same thing?
[16:40] <Fernandos> or are there known problems with my card?
[16:41] <rww> MarkSS: running a command with sudo would give it root or admin access, yes
[16:41] <ncurses> meLon, try usinf root and change the home directory ownership
[16:41] <rlankfo> Fernandos: i would find out the exact card you have and check the forums
[16:41] <meLon> Ty ncurses.  I will give that a try.  Going to re-submit my key first
[16:41] <guest> MarkSS: sudоеrs generally are included in admin group
[16:41] <notme> c3l: run nmap -p22 <pastehereyouraddy/netmask>
[16:41] <rlankfo> Fernandos: ndiswrapper is a major p in the a as well, chances are it's not a compatability issue with your card so it probably won't help you
[16:42] <guest> MarkSS:  man sudo_root
[16:42] <MarkSS> So, all directories outside of the home folder require admin/root access then?
[16:43] <guest> yes
[16:43] <c3l> notme: thanks
[16:43] <guest> that's right
[16:43] <magicianlord> what is the point of using uuids in fstab vs sda?
[16:43] <rlankfo> MarkSS: not necessarily, all directories have a permission mask and are owned by a particular user/group
[16:43] <ncurses> MarkSS,  not all
[16:43] <Maletor> Can anybody help m solve this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277834-30-boot-error#t1912394
[16:43] <ncurses> they can be owned by other user/group as well
[16:44] <MarkSS> you just lost me
[16:44] <duffydack> magicianlord, so can be moved without editing fstab?
[16:44] <Mike_Flip79> Fernandos: you probably have a b43xx router, also check and see if there is a switch or button to turn your card on/off and if that is working
[16:44] <rlankfo> MarkSS: http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/file-permissions_94.html
[16:45] <duffydack> magicianlord, I dont really know any good reason
[16:45] <notme> c3l: np, give it a while and see if it gets you something, if you don't get results, you mostly can solve this by sniffing with tcpdump or wireshark, and get the ip from there (assuming you don't have many machines active in the lan)
[16:45] <Fernandos> Mike_Flip79: I have a FritzBox Phone Wlan 7270
[16:45] <picard1421> where can i install plugins for kdm?
[16:45] <lindsaymobil22> How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but i am curious, i have tried it in Ubuntu but i got an error about intrid.img
[16:45] <RandyRKelly> How long does it take for the first boot of Ubuntu?
[16:45] <cannonball> ok cant boot from live cd. I get  a " unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, and I have checked the cd it good.. anyone help?
[16:46] <cannonball> do I need to edit something in grub to fix this?
[16:46] <magicianlord> cannonball: burn the iso to cd, or use usb-creator to write it to flash
[16:47] <cannonball> yes did that I have a cd that has been check'd it good
[16:47] <cpare> Hello all, hoping for some assistance on changing the size of the font while Ubuntu boots...
[16:47] <cpare> my font is huge :)
[16:47] <lindsaymobil22> How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but i am curious, i have tried it in Ubuntu but i got an error about intrid.img
[16:47] <cannonball> when I do the demo I get the above error
[16:47] <cpare> I just saw the LiveCD has it nice and small now :)
[16:47] <MarkSS> What uses would a normal user have for making directories owned by a particular user/group though?  Not sure if I would ever have a need for that.
[16:47] <c3l> notme: I got about 50 results ;e
[16:47] <rlankfo> MarkSS: read the link
[16:48] <guest> MarkSS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:48] <MarkSS> fine fine
[16:48] <Mike_Flip79> Fernandos: check the forums
[16:48] <wrektjet> hey guys. my RAM is showing at close to 80percent and Im not really doing all that much although I was last night. Is there a way to "release" and RAM that might have gotten tied up in earlier activity?
[16:48] <notme> all they say the port is open? if it says "filtered" or "closed" they arent the one
[16:48] <wrektjet> check that closer to ninety
[16:49] <ncurses> notme,  whats your question?
[16:49] <lindsaymobil22> How would i install Ubuntu with a BTRFS root? i can do it in Fedora but if i try it in Ubuntu i get an error upon boot up about intrid.img, any help?
[16:49] <MarkSS> The bottom portion of my desktop environment cannot be viewed.  I cannot see the trash icon or the windows in the taskbar down there.  Just slightly off the edge of the monitor.  I have to alt+tab to move around.  How do I fix so I can see taskbar?  Monitor autoadjust button not fixing either
[16:50] <notme> ncurses: didn't get what you said about c3l's modem
[16:50] <lindsaymobil22> MarkSS change the scaling on your graphics card or chip
[16:50] <rww> lindsaymobil22: I don't think the current stable version of Ubuntu supports btrfs roots. Ubuntu Maverick does, but it hasn't been released yet.
[16:50] <MarkSS> How do I do that?  Do you mean resolution?
[16:50] <cannonball> ok cant boot from live cd. I get  a " unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, and I have checked the cd it good.. anyone help?
[16:50] <martianixor> wrektjet: where do you get the memory usage reading?
[16:51] <ncurses> BRB guys
[16:51] <lindsaymobil22> MarkSS i only know how to do it in CCC, do you have an ATi video card?
[16:51] <MarkSS> No idea
[16:51] <headkase314> MarkSS: preface what you say with the persons name, like me talking to you: "MarkSS: (text)"  Helps keep everything clear.
[16:51] <c3l> notme: how come I got so many results? I guess it didnt only search on lan, so how do I find the right one most easy?
[16:51] <MarkSS> headkase314: Ok
[16:51] <wrektjet> martianixor, from a desktop applet and from the system monitor
[16:52] <lindsaymobil22> MarkSS you mean you dont know what video card you have?
[16:52] <martianixor> wrektjet: OK, in a terminal, use top
[16:52] <martianixor> wrektjet: see what's eating your RAM under %MEM
[16:52] <notme> c3l: pm
[16:53] <MarkSS> I think Nvidia
[16:53] <MarkSS> Yes, it is Nvidia
[16:53] <lindsaymobil22> MarkSS im not an expert with NVidia sorry :)
[16:53] <headkase314> MarkSS: Have you installed drivers for you nVidia card or are you using the built-in ones that came with Ubuntu?
[16:54] <lindsaymobil22> headkase314 +1
[16:54] <martianixor> wrektjet: top is a command that you can run in a terminal
[16:54] <MarkSS> headkase314: I got the 180 one or whatever.  The recommended one
[16:54] <MarkSS> Everything works fine other than not being able to see the taskbar
[16:54] <itsux2bu> i'm thinking about setting up a LAMP server in VirtualBox with Ubuntu as the L in LAMP.   host OS is Windows Vista.  should the guest OS in my VirtualBox LAMP server be Ubuntu or Ubuntu Server?   and what is Ubuntu LTS  ?
[16:55] <ResQue> i want to see what is going on when i type make install, is there something like verbose where i can see the output in the terminal?
[16:55] <ResQue> \
[16:56] <MarkSS> headkase: I can fix it by going to a more lame resolution, but I hate doing that
[16:56] <wrektjet> martianixor, basically three things are using RAM. firefox xchat python that equals about 1.8 gig yet it shows that over 3 is being used at the moment which i dont understand
[16:56] <Sweets> Is there a way to setup an IRC server with webmin?
[16:56] <MarkSS> headkase: I just want to be able to use my optimal resolution
[16:56] <headkase314> MarkSS: I was hoping the proprietary drivers would help, but you already have them.  I'm Ati so I don't really know where to go from here.. Sorry.
[16:56] <guest> itsux2bu: Ubuntu LAMP on virtual PC Part 1 	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGCyEwk39c
[16:56] <MarkSS> Why Ati?  Is Ati better?
[16:56] <rww> ubottu: webmin
[16:56] <joona> Hi
[16:57] <lindsaymobil22> MarkSS not in linux no, ATi is a disaster in linux
[16:57] <headkase314> MarkSS: Ati or nVidia is preference.  nVidia people claim less problems (I never have problems with Ati) but Ati actively supports an Open-Source driver.  Comes down to personal preference.
[16:57] <joona> Anyone know about Aipitek SlimTablet 600u mouse click lag
[16:57] <martianixor> wrektjet: you're experiencing slowliness in performance?
[16:58] <Sweets> Then is there an easy way to set up an IRC server? I'm new to linux...
[16:59] <picard1421> anyone want to help set this up with me?
[16:59] <wrektjet> martianixor, i was earlier yes. here check this pastebin of the free -m command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471514/
[16:59] <martianixor> OK
[16:59] <itsux2bu> guest, thanks but i am using Oracle's VirtualBox VM not Mivrosoft's Virtual PC product
[16:59] <picard1421> this pam face authenticaiton thing..y.. i get it to work sometimes.. sometimes it will just crash X other times it will work no probxsss
[16:59] <picard1421> also im not seeing the plugin in KDM .. how do install a plugin in KDM
[16:59] <Misterio> Sweets: You need to install ircd, services and configure them
[17:00] <guest> itsux2bu: I'll find it for VirtualBox too
[17:00] <Sweets> I tried apt-get install ircd, but it didn't work...
[17:00] <MengXingHun> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[17:01] <martianixor> wrektjet: not sure put try to stop whatever is using python temporarily if possible
[17:01] <MengXingHun> sudo apt-get install girlfriend
[17:01] <martianixor> hahaha
[17:02] <martianixor> MengXingHun: wouldn't that be vgirlfriend or something?
[17:02] <Misterio> MengXingHun: Do you have any ubuntu support releated question?
[17:02] <guest> itsux2bu:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOsIciWCwY&feature=related Install Ubuntu Server 9.10 in Sun VirtualBox Part 1 of 2 	
[17:02] <MengXingHun> Oh.I'm sry.i can very good play ubuntu ^^^
[17:02] <Monkey_Dust> !ot| MengXingHun
[17:03] <MengXingHun> ok..sry
[17:03] <janos> hi i have a problem my hd is slow to start on boot and system go to initramfs
[17:04] <janos> some people know what i can do for make a good boot?
[17:05] <martianixor> Misterio: don't you agree that it would be nice if some commands like gf or wifey be written which could basically switch the environment to a more girly mode? with pink theme etc?
[17:05] <Sweets> Is there a 1 on 1 support for ubuntu?
[17:05] <abhijit> Sweets, you mean commercial support?
[17:06] <itsux2bu> thx guest, you helped me decide to use ubuntu server, not just ubuntu
[17:06] <Misterio> martianixor: Then I would use always cli, anyways it's offtopic :P
[17:06] <janos> i have problem with grub
[17:06] <martianixor> Misterio: I agree cli is always the best ;-)
[17:06] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone here know about Picard?
[17:06] <uRock> Sweets, hte only way you get that is from a friend or from paying for it
[17:06] <Sweets> K...
[17:07] <DavidJHeinrich> I'm trying to change multiple MD3 tag data in many files, it won't let me to multiple files at once
[17:07] <abhijit> Sweets, http://www.ubuntu.com/support and http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services
[17:07] <uRock> Sweets, you can get great help from ubuntuforums.org you just have to be patient there.
[17:07] <janos> some people can help all my config file is ok but my boot go on !alert /dev/uu-id does not exist because my hd is slow to response
[17:08] <Sweets> Thanks
[17:08] <uRock> janos, there is a setting for the amount of time to give grub to find its stuff, but I don't know where that is
[17:08] <sunson> probably OT here, but would an intra-vlan chatter go via the firewall?
[17:09] <_pg_> in iwconfig how do i switch my laptop to use the usb rather than the onboard?
[17:11] <nikitis> Question Can anyone figure out how to change the default vnc4server port from 5900 to something else?  I've googled it but I'm not getting any clear answers.
[17:12] <gilley> I sure wish they would fix wubi
[17:12] <guest>  DavidJHeinrich: tp://easytag.sourceforge.net/ EasyTAG
[17:13] <guest>  DavidJHeinrich: http://easytag.sourceforge.net/   EasyTAG
[17:13] <th0r> nikitis: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/12152-change-vncserver-port.html
[17:13] <euphorial> I have a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000. So far I have only discovered "Cheese", which in itself is quite cheesy. It has a capture rate of what *seems* to be 5 frames per second (shitty). I've looked around on Google and can't find a real solution. Does anyone have time and the know-how to help me with resources for this problem, please?
[17:14] <DavidJHeinrich> guest: thanks
[17:14] <guest> DavidJHeinrich: believe it will help you
[17:15] <martianixor> wrektjet: any luck?
[17:15] <meLon> I am having trouble with public key authentication.  It was working earlier today, but now it's now.  The only thing I've done that I can imagine would affect this is modification of permissions.  I looked up what the permissions of the files should be, but I'm still stuck.  I am now being prompted to enter my password
[17:16] <wrektjet> martianixor, not so much not totally sure whats running under python. im gonna leave my computer and restart later today. ive been reading about "top"
[17:16] <gilley> when ubuntu is installed with wubi it gives me a "error: cannot find GLDR in all devices error. the fix seems too advanced to complete, by modifying the boot record..:(
[17:16] <roydude> !raid
[17:16] <notme> meLon: SSH?
[17:16] <martianixor> wrektjet: yeah top is very interesting, try htop too
[17:17] <martianixor> wrektjet: ;-) got to go for now, and don't get used to restarting whenever there's a problem
[17:17] <meLon> Yes.  I am connecting to localhost over ssh trying to use public key authentication.  It was working earlier today
[17:17] <meLon> notme ^
[17:17] <cpare> anyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB2
[17:17] <guest> DavidJHeinrich: sudo aptitude install easytag easytag-aac
[17:17] <notme> meLon: what's the error exactly?
[17:17] <meLon> Notme The error is I have to put in my passwords
[17:18] <cpare> anyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB2?
[17:18] <uRock> !pm | janos
[17:18] <gilley> !wubi
[17:19] <yates_> #ubuntu-mythtv
[17:19] <notme> meLon: connec with -v switch, it'll tell you a little more about the issue
[17:19] <notme> s/(connec)/\1t/
[17:19] <roydude> any one have experience with hardware raid?  I'm wondering how ubuntu will warn me of a failing HD?
[17:19] <yates_> how to do i switch to a irc for mythbuntu?
[17:20] <wrektjet> martianixor, thnx
[17:20] <uRock> yates_, click network in upper left, then click chanels
[17:20] <roydude> yates_: /j #mythbuntu
[17:21] <meLon> notme, Thanks for your suggestion.  Here is the output.  http://pastebin.org/436372
[17:23] <cpare> Anyone know how to do the vga=792 trick with GRUB2?
[17:23] <notme> meLon: can you try again with -vv?
[17:24] <Ganymede> does anyone know a way to get nfs-utils 1.2.2 to lucid without upgrading to maverick. lucid's version of NFS kernel server seems to lack IPv6 support (even though IPv6 has been out for like 10 years or something)
[17:24] <wrektjet> crazy: i figured out that my netmonitor screenlet was taking up almost a gig of RAM! crazyness
[17:24] <meLon> notme, updated http://pastebin.org/436378
[17:25] <indietrash> which ubuntu10 versions are released? I see no fluxbuntu or crunchbang based on 10, so I thought I'd ask.
[17:26] <IdleOne> indietrash: neither are supported
[17:26] <indietrash> IdleOne: I know. that's beside my point.
[17:26] <IdleOne> indietrash: no the point is neither are supported
[17:26] <IdleOne> ask in their channels
[17:27] <notme> meLon: ok still doesn't say much, so check ~/.ssh/* have all 0600 permissions, in both machines
[17:27] <notme> or at least in your local machine
[17:27] <indietrash> IdleOne: the point of my question was to harvest information as to which ubuntu10s there are. this include kubutunu xubuntu fluxubuntu blahubuntu. official or not. just asking if anyone knows.
[17:28] <notme> also that you are the owner of everything
[17:28] <IdleOne> indietrash: Ubuntu,Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu
[17:28] <notme> (no everything in the world, just that directory)
[17:28] <IdleOne> those are the official supported versions anything else is offtopic here and not supported
[17:28] <uRock> +1
[17:29] <indietrash> oh I just love #ubuntu. are there any lite versions of ubuntu available? i.e. one that comes with X11 set up and maybe GNOME, but no other crap?
[17:29] <extraclassic> hi, I'm using Ubuntu and trying to do a MySQL query with php, but I keep getting the error Call to undefined function mysql_connect()....I was looking for help since I've configured something wrong
[17:29] <IdleOne> !minimal > indietrash
[17:29] <uRock> !lubuntu > indietrash
[17:30] <indietrash> is lubuntu 10 or just 9
[17:30] <bolverksson999> I am a newbie, going to school for computer networking and internet security trying to learn Backtrack 4
[17:30] <uRock> there is a lubuntu 10.04
[17:30] <bolverksson999> Backtruck has a debian/uUbuntu base
[17:30] <askhader> Hello I am using a wifi USB adapater with ndiswrapper. ndiswrapper -l reports that the device is present (with prper mac address) and the driver is loaded but I still have no wireless device extensions. Why is this?
[17:30] <IdleOne> bolverksson999: #backtrack-linux
[17:30] <yates_> thanks
[17:30] <indietrash> kthnx. I'll look lover them
[17:30] <indietrash> *over
[17:30] <bolverksson999> yes
[17:30] <uRock> bolverksson999, this isn't the channel for Back|Track
[17:30] <bolverksson999> Backtrack is linux
[17:31] <bolverksson999> where is that?
[17:31] <abhijit> !backtrack | bolverksson999
[17:31] <meLon> notme, should .ssh directory itself also have 0600 permissions?
[17:31] <IdleOne> bolverksson999: /join #backtrack-linux
[17:31] <bolverksson999> thankyou
[17:31] <oparia> extraclassic: Look in php.ini for the line with mysql.so, and uncomment it if it's commented
[17:31] <notme> meLon: it would need also x bit, so it should have 0700
[17:31] <_pg_> what is the gcc library and where is it located?
[17:32] <abhijit> _pg_, its c compiler
[17:32] <abhijit> !gcc | _pg_
[17:32] <_pg_> abhijit: vmware tools is asking for it
[17:32] <extraclassic> I've found that line, uncommented it, pointed it to the right place, restarted apache, and it still doesn't work
[17:32] <headkase314> _pg_: (G)NU (C) (C)ompiler.  It is a tool to compile source code into programs.
[17:32] <_pg_> headkase314: is it part of ubuntu by default?
[17:33] <IdleOne> _pg_: install the build-essential package
[17:33] <_pg_> or do i need to go get it from somewhere? the installed cant find the directory
[17:33] <headkase314> _pg_: sudo apt-get install build-essential to get it
[17:33] <notme> meLon: do you have access to the server?
[17:33] <meLon> notme, Yes.  Working on the permissions
[17:33] <_pg_> headkase314: jsut like that? or build-essential gcc
[17:33] <abhijit> !info gcc | _pg_
[17:33] <headkase314> _pg_: but if you install software from source you lose all the benefits of apt-get like the management it does for you, always try to find a package first before compiling from source.
[17:34] <oparia> extraclassic: What about mysqli.so? The next line, usually
[17:34] <itsux2bu> oh.. thats how gcc got its name..  gnu c compiler
[17:34] <_pg_> headkase314: its just in a vm im not too worried about it
[17:34] <itsux2bu> which vm are you using?
[17:34] <extraclassic> I tried using that file too, since I read it was recommended over the other, but no luck
[17:34] <headkase314> _pg_: just build-essential, that pulls in gcc
[17:35] <notme> meLon: chmod 700 ~/.ssh ; chmod -R 600 ~/.ssh/*; chown -R myuser:mygroup ~/.ssh
[17:35] <_pg_> itsux2bu: vmware fusion
[17:35] <_pg_> headkase314: awesome thank you
[17:35] <itsux2bu> oh your on a mac?
[17:35] <_pg_> itsux2bu: yeah
[17:35] <headkase314> _pg_: you're welcome!
[17:35] <oparia> extraclassic: You'll need both together, if I remember correctly
[17:36] <itsux2bu> i'm mr. windows.. my younger brother is a mac fanboy
[17:36] <_pg_> itsux2bu: youll get there ;)
[17:36] <meLon> notme.  .ssh of both homes is 0700.  All files in local .ssh are 0600.   I've deleted my authorized_keys on the server and am about to ssh-copy-id it back on there.
[17:36] <itsux2bu> lol.. my bro tells me that too
[17:36] <temp> k whats up with the bluetooth retardedness in 10.04 i have to use an on screen kbd
[17:37] <notme> ok, but make sure it's called authorized_keys2 with a 2 in the end
[17:37] <shurane> When is ~/bash_login called in Ubuntu?
[17:37] <notme> also in the server, if you have a line AllowUsers you have to put the remote user in there
[17:37] <_pg_> itsux2bu: i dont feel comfortable trying to convert you here but i also hang out in #mac if youre ever curious haha
[17:38] <itsux2bu> _pg_ does vmware charge for fusion?   last offtopic question..
[17:38] <_pg_> itsux2bu: yeah they do
[17:38] <notme> meLon: and reload sshd's cfg
[17:38] <meLon> oh
[17:38] <_pg_> itsux2bu: its supurb though. definately worth it
[17:38] <meLon> notme,  /etc/init.d/sshd restart?
[17:39] <notme> meLon: if you are using lucid you can use "service sshd reload"
[17:40] <notme> meLon: sorry the service is called "ssh" not "sshd"
[17:41] <meLon> notme:  I've restarted and reloaded /etc/init.d/ssh .  I've verified the permissions you've suggested.  I'm still being prompted for my password: http://pastebin.org/436400
[17:43] <casa_> ciao
[17:44] <jvm1> hi. i am changing my system, and just thought i'd transfer my home directory from the old one to the new. the old and the new system are ubuntu 9.10. strangely, on the new system my desktop icons are taken from $HOME instead of $HOME/Desktop. anyone have an idea how to correct that?
[17:45] <opij> is there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?
[17:45] <erUSUL> jvm1: edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:45] <meLon> Giving up on me, notme ? :P
[17:45] <soreau> opij: flash is the hiccup, not ubuntu
[17:45] <jvm1> thanks a lot, erUSUL.
[17:46] <gafir> Does anybody know where to click to burn an audio cd out of a playlist with rhythmbox? Thx
[17:46] <ludovic_> bonjour je recher le canal dun amie sur unboutu chat room
[17:46] <notme> oh, not me!
[17:46] <erUSUL> jvm1: no problem
[17:46] <rww> ubottu: fr | ludovic_
[17:46] <opij> soreau: it doesnt happen when i download the file, and it doesnt happen in windows
[17:46] <notme> i'm googling 4 your issue, hang on :)
[17:47] <headkase314> gafir: You can use Brasero to burn audio cd's.  It is under: Applications > Sound and Video > Basero Disc Burner
[17:47] <ludovic_> thank you very mutch im sorry
[17:47] <headkase314> *brasero
[17:47] <gafir> headkase314: brasero requires me to sudo to launch it, or else it doesn't burn, so I'm sort of looking for a way to do it with rhythmbox
[17:47] <rhalff> hi, how do I select the default ruby version ?
[17:48] <dementor> hy i need to change my video driver  vrom vesa to Savage 4  how can i do theat in new whit linux
[17:48] <rhalff> some tool for that to set the alternative.. hm set alternatives right.. ? :)
[17:48] <opij> is there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?
[17:48] <gafir> headkase314: I'll give it a shot with brasero again, thx
[17:48] <headkase314> gafir: If Brasero requires sudo then there is something misconfigured on your machine for that, I don't know how to approach it but perhaps that should be the support you seek first?
[17:49] <Misterio> gafir: Go to gnome-menu, and remove "gksu" from command in brasero
[17:49] <rhalff> hm ok that's not for ruby
[17:50] <notme> meLon: try running ssh-add
[17:51] <Reemo> Hey guys, I just bought a second graphic card (9400GT nvidia), but it is not recognized by nvidia-settings, while lspci lists the card. Lucid Lynx, NVidia GPU's, Asus P5E Deluxe
[17:51] <gafir> headkase314 Misterio: thx
[17:51] <headkase314> gafir: You're welcome!
[17:51] <opij> is there any way to fix ubuntu's random hiccups when playing flash?
[17:52] <meLon> Hey notme, doesn't this look like it's using the wrong key?  http://pastebin.org/436425
[17:53] <pyTopher> are there programs to upload files onto an iPod?
[17:53] <tototototoyt> hey i want to keep some packages from upgrading, and then run apt-get upgrade, how do i do that?
[17:53] <Reemo> tototototoyt, google apt-pinning
[17:53] <abhijit> !ipod | pyTopher
[17:53] <tototototoyt> Reemo, thanks
[17:54] <Reemo> np
[17:54] <pyTopher> thanks
[17:54] <notme> meLon: the first key i guess it's not the one your using to login, the other one just says "nil", only thing i can think is it is empty or something like that
[17:55] <notme> you can as well just regen the keys, also why you try ssh localhost?
[17:55] <notme> are you trying this on the same machine?
[17:55] <dementor> hy i need to change my video driver  from vesa to Savage 4  how can i do theat i am  new whit linux
[17:55] <nikitis> I need help from somebody who knows VNCServer really well
[17:56] <nikitis> I can't figure out how to change the port and make it work.  Also, I can't seem to connect to VNC before I log into the machine locally.
[17:56] <euphorial> Change login to VNC instead of localhost logins.
[17:57] <mr_hai> i just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network
[17:57] <mr_hai> im sorounded by several open networks all of which in set to auto connect to and none worked
[17:57] <meLon> Hmmm, -vvv says "Not a RSA1 key file".  That's strange
[17:58] <mr_hai> I really would not like to swtich to wicd because it does not handle WEP key index's
[17:59] <notme> meLon: maybe id_rsa is corrupt, or the server's not accepting dsa keys and you got one
[17:59] <ResQue> i just download the source for GnuGP, run ./configure, make and make install all worked find as i download all the dependencies but when i type gpg in the terminal it says not found. any ideas what i did wrong
[17:59] <notme> i'd try ssh-keygen again
[17:59] <mr_hai> I really would not like to swtich to wicd because it does not handle WEP key index's
[17:59] <mr_hai> i just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network
[17:59] <meLon> Okay notme.  What bothers me is that this was working flawlessly earlier
[18:00] <notme> meLon: odd it is
[18:00] <headkase314> ResQue: did you do "sudo make install" or just "make install"? Without sudo the files couldn't be placed into the proper locations.
[18:00] <ResQue> headkase314: yes i did sudo
[18:00] <headkase314> ResQue: Ok, just checking that: someone else will have to help you from here ;)
[18:01] <meLon> Wow.  notme.  I had to set the server's user's directory to 0700.
[18:01] <ResQue> headkase314: thanks :-D
[18:01] <notme> meLon: have you changed something in the server since?
[18:01] <ixbidie> df
[18:01] <notme> toldya :)
[18:03] <mr_hai> i just installed fluxbox on my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and everything worked great except for network manager which for somereason did not connect to any network
[18:03] <om26er> luck ;-)
[18:03] <ResQue> headkase314: i just did a find on my whole root drive, only to find out i install GPG v2, its exe is gpg2 HAHAHAHAHA
[18:04] <meLon> Oh, notme.  It has to do with sshd's StrictMode
[18:04] <meLon> Thanks so much for your help!
[18:04] <ResQue> i should be mad but i am so happy its working, i had loads of trouble with the dependencies, i cant help but laugh now i know its working
[18:04] <mr_hai> !fluxbox
[18:04] <mr_hai> !fluxbox network
[18:05] <notme> meLon: strict modes are Wise
[18:05] <nirvaana69> hi
[18:05] <headkase314> ResQue: you can also enter "apt-cache search gpg | less" to get a list of packages related to that.
[18:05] <headkase314> *in a console
[18:05] <nirvaana69> how do i change themes?
[18:06] <meLon> Yeah, but I'm doing this on localhost and it seems that the strictmode is just to keep users from being able to gain other users priv's.  Since i'm the only user I dont think it will be much of a problem
[18:06] <ResQue> headkase314: thanks i will note that down
[18:06] <nirvaana69> i am new to ubuntu9.04
[18:06] <headkase314> ResQue: You're welcome, and the Q key exits the less viewer ;)
[18:06] <notme> meLon: it's a matter of good habits
[18:07] <nirvaana69> i am new to ubuntu9.04how do i change themes?
[18:07] <headkase314> nirvaana69: Go to System > Preferences > Appearance to change the look and feel
[18:07] <nchand> !SafeType
[18:07] <nirvaana69> thanks!!
[18:08] <headkase314> nirvaana69: You're welcome ;)
[18:08] <casa_> come si camnia canale?
[18:08] <IdleOne> casa_: /join #canale
[18:09] <casa_> grazie caro
[18:09] <IdleOne> prego
[18:09]  * notme learns prego == your welcome in italian
[18:09] <IdleOne> notme: it does :)
[18:10] <notme> great, someday i want to learn italian :)
[18:10] <dries_> How can I assign core affinities in ubuntu?
[18:12] <sobukwe> I am new to perl and experimenting with sockets. When I try to open a socket using sockaddr_in($port,$iaddr), I get this error:
[18:12] <IdleOne> sobukwe: #perl would be a better place to ask
[18:12] <notme> dries_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[18:13] <dries_> thanks notme
[18:13] <notme> np
[18:14] <ninja_sense> can someone help me with my wine install...its completely broke
[18:15] <tle_> Hey all, I'm having an issue with the interface builder Glade. essentially whenever I pick a stock image or button the icon doesn't show up. is there any way around this?
[18:16] <dementor> how to change my  video driver  from vesa to S3 Inc. Savage 4  i am new in linux
[18:18] <UberN00b> hey there, has anyone experienced problems connecting a web cam to skype ?
[18:19] <notme> hey what dya ppl use to backup? (pref gui+cli and based around cli tools)
[18:19] <notme> local backups
[18:19] <IdleOne> !backup
[18:20] <headkase314> notme: My backup is a USB hard-drive.  I usually have it turned off.  When I need to backup something I turn it on, copy to it, and unmount it and turn it off again ;)  Completely manual driven.
[18:22] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[18:22] <tle_> Stock images and buttons aren't showing up in Glade (or the produced GUIs) for me. Anyone know a work around?
[18:22] <notme> headkase314: that way if i mess up i won't have incrementals from where to get back
[18:22] <notme> thx IdleOne
[18:22] <trism> tle_: in the case of buttons, by default in gnome they don't have icons, unless the /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icons key is set
[18:22] <ShapeShifter499> does generating 4024 bit pgp keys take a long time?
[18:22] <trism> tle_: enable it and you will see them in glade
[18:22] <headkase314> notme: There is also Dropbox OR UbuntuOne.  You can save in those folders and have them automatically mirrored to a cloud?
[18:23] <tle_> trism:  ah ok, so its essentially a default theme issue then? Is there a way that I can override this within my application (or even better, Glade)?
[18:24] <queso> Is it easy to change the context menus for nautalus?  When I right-click on a file, usually there are only a couple things I want to do . . no where near the 17 (!) options it gives me.
[18:24] <queso> Ha, when I right-click on a folder, it gives me 20 options.
[18:25] <trism> tle_: you can explicitly set the contents of the button (load the stock icon then attach it to the button), but this is really beyond the scope of this channel
[18:25] <notme> headkase314: kinda don't like the cloud for storage, let alone for my personal stuff. an external disc should be fine, just some way to add incremental
[18:25] <tle_> trism: alright thanks for your help
[18:26] <surfereddie> Enter text here...hello all
[18:26] <konne> konne88
[18:26] <notme> hey there
[18:26] <surfereddie> anybody using nxserver? with a windows client
[18:26] <headkase314> notme: I don't have experience for it but are you looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron ? Basically write a script to incrementally back up and use cron to run it at specific intervals?
[18:27] <IdleOne> notme: grsync may be what you want
[18:27] <notme> headkase314: yeah i'd love to put up a script, but don't have the time atm, will check that IdleOne
[18:28] <UberN00b> does anyone know how i can get skype to recognize my cam
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> UberN00b:  do other apps see it?
[18:29] <headkase314> UberN00b: This may help -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Skype
[18:30] <notme> IdleOne: looks good! ty
[18:30] <IdleOne> notme: sure thing
[18:30] <UberN00b> thanks headkase314 i'll check it
[18:30] <headkase314> UberN00b: You're welcome!
[18:31] <UberN00b> Dr_Willis apps... no but the cam is working in chatroulette
[18:31] <irule> what software do I need to connect to a wireless lan using cli? my X is dead :s
[18:32] <konne> join #httpd
[18:32] <kreme191> could someone help me install a webcam, microsoft cinema, i've tried using wine with little success
[18:33] <vivek243> hi..
[18:33] <xangua> !webcam | kreme191
[18:33] <Sayahey_> hi all
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> irule:  theres several command line tools., iwlist, and iwconfig and others are used.
[18:33] <kreme191> thanx xungua
[18:34] <irule> well I need something that will make it easy because I never understand man pages
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> irule:  perhaps check --> http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2006/12/ubuntu_configur.html  :) if you got a bnrowser handy
[18:34] <irule> there whould be woman pages
[18:34] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I just had my graphics freak out after an update....now, gnome-do is telling me that I need to enable 'composition'...can someone tell me how to do that please?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> irule:  learn the tools and it is easy.  wicd also has a CLI interface I think. not sure about network manager
[18:34] <sunson> I have two servers A and B which are connected via a switch (and to other machines). Now, if we laid a direct cross-over cable from A-to-B and assigned eth1s of each an IP from the same network... 1. will linux prefer the direct wire? and 2. if the wire dies, will it go over the switch?
[18:35] <UberN00b> headkase314 ermmm that doesnt help much
[18:35] <IdleOne> irule: if you can't understand man pages you surely won't get the woman pages.
[18:35] <notme> lol
[18:35] <itsux2bu> does ubuntu have good support for USB devices?
[18:35] <IdleOne> irule: sexism is against the code of conduct, please don't make such comments.
[18:36] <vivek243> Happy Friendship day.........
[18:36] <headkase314> UberN00b: I have to use that to get my webcam working in Skype, basically need the compatibility mode here ;)
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> sunson:  you re connecting 2 pc's  each with 2 NIC's  to each other? one via the lan, one nic via a direct crossover cable? the system will not auto-fallback wiothout some work,
[18:36] <notme> irule: low level program is iwconfig
[18:36] <[thor]> itsux2bu: i have had better support for my usb devices in ubunty than i ever had in *dows
[18:36] <xangua> mikebeecham: open gconf-editor and search fot /apps/metacity/general/metacity_compositing
[18:36] <sunson> Dr_Willis: yes. exactly.
[18:36] <pharasoth> hey everyone
[18:36] <xangua> oh is compositing_manager
[18:37] <sunson> Dr_Willis: i thought there is something called a shortest path algorithm... but maybe I over-wished what it does :P
[18:37] <UberN00b> headkase314, but as far as i understood i have to change a line in a text file ... but the path they gave leads to the options menu in skype
[18:37] <UberN00b> ...no txt there...
[18:37] <[thor]> itsux2bu: no need to install drivers for my camera, or wifi antenna, or even my ancient palmOS device
[18:37] <mikebeecham> xangua: actually mate I just discovered that the drivers corrupted, and I had no visual effects.  It's downloading and installing some drivers I believe.  Not sure what happened with the Update Manager, but something sure freaked out
[18:37] <queso> I found a Nautilus Actions Configuration Tool -- is there a way to edit the already-existing actions?  Or only add actions?
[18:38] <itsux2bu> how does ubuntu know what to do with each device?
[18:38] <bugre> hi guys all ok
[18:38] <xangua> what driver mikebeecham¿ did you add xorg team ppa or something like that¿
[18:38] <pharasoth> does anyone know what version of xorg-server nvidia 71.86.13 is compatible with
[18:38] <mikebeecham> xangua: nope
[18:38] <headkase314> UberN00b: it is done on the command line, the preload functions set up the compatibility mode for skype and then you run skype in that compatibility environment.  It can be a bit confusing especially when you need to create a menu item with the preloads.
[18:38] <sunson> Dr_Willis: I guess its because of ARP discovery claiming the route to nic2 of B to be going via nic2 of A only... unless of course, we login via nic1 and clear off the ARP cache. right?
[18:38] <ikonia> pharasoth: the xserver version is not important
[18:38] <mikebeecham> I've been away on holiday, come back to find that Ubuntu has some updates to do...I set it off and BOOM.
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> sunson:  one of the featuires of network manager i THINK is to do the task. but still programs can get confused if eth's suddendly change.
[18:38] <ikonia> pharasoth: if you read the README in the nvidia packge it will explain it's limitations
[18:38] <roboto3785> Hi all. Recently I've had some trouble keeping my WindowPickerApplet displayed. I've tried using Emerald, and have also added window manager (gnome-wm) to my startup, and still it hides itself on me... 'metacity --replace' will make it reappear but it usually disappears soon there after... any suggestions?
[18:38] <bugre> I'm problem whit
[18:38] <sunson> Dr_Willis: there is no NetworkManager here. this isn't a Desktop. its a 10.04 server.
[18:38] <bugre> smart lan usb
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> sunson:  not sure. this is getting beyond my 'offical' network training. :) Im more of a hands on.
[18:39] <bugre> uw54
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> sunson:  wicd has a command line version. so it can work as a 'network manager' i belive.
[18:39] <headkase314> exit
[18:39] <[thor]> itsux2bu: some sort of voodoo magic, or databases being matched to deviceIDs.. something like that.
[18:39] <UberN00b> headkase314 so how do i do that again ? XD
[18:39] <pharasoth> ok does anyone have nvidia 71.86.13 working and if so what distro are you using
[18:39] <sunson> Dr_Willis: yeah, we no use any funky stuff. just plain ol' /etc/network/interfaces managed via puppet
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> sunson:  theres proberly guides for redundant/failsafe/network type connections
[18:39] <ikonia> pharasoth: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[18:40] <xangua> roboto3785: do you have compiz setting manager installed¿¿
[18:40] <pharasoth> ok does anyone have nvidia 71.86.13 working and if so what version of ubuntu are you using
[18:40] <roboto3785> Yep.
[18:40] <itsux2bu> ok.. so ubuntu has a built-in db of devices and looks it up somehow
[18:40] <ikonia> pharasoth: the nvidia drivers that are shipped as part of the ubuntu hardware drivers tool is what is supported
[18:40] <sunson> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to avoid the switch. we need the switch to talk to others... but A is a web server and B is a DB server. A talks to B too much. but also talks to others...
[18:40] <[thor]> itsux2bu: i lean more toward the voodoo magic myself.
[18:41] <xangua> roboto3785: ten better remove that window applet you use, open compiz settings and go to the window decoration plugin
[18:41] <headkase314> UberN00b: You see where it says "bash -c"?  In a console don't type that instead type everything between the two single quotes.  Then Skype will run and you can test your webcam.  Then if it works you can make the menu item with the bash -c part in it.
[18:41] <pharasoth> yeah but they are not working out for me. There is this graphical glitch around the cursor in opengl apps
[18:41] <itsux2bu> so the usb devices still need drivers but they keep details from the user
[18:41] <xangua> in Comand it says '/usr/bin/compiz-decorator' , replace it with 'emerald --replace'
[18:41] <headkase314> UberN00b: Also in a console type: gstreamer-properties to get some web-cam configuration options to play with.
[18:41] <xangua> roboto3785*
[18:41] <roboto3785> Ok, xanqua, I'll check that out. Thanks :)
[18:41] <pharasoth> i don't need "supported" drivers, i need functional drivers
[18:41] <pe4nut> ...
[18:42] <ikonia> pharasoth: ok, so you'll need to contact nvidia to log a bug. Have you checked your cards supported status with ubuntu package drivers
[18:42] <UberN00b> headkase314 thanks, gime a sec to try it
[18:42] <[thor]> itsux2bu: no, you can probably find all the information you need on the forums.
[18:42] <itguru_> my ppp0 device is all of a sudden coming up as eth1 device? has anyone heard of this before?
[18:42] <xangua> roboto3785: and just restart your session, that should work
[18:42] <[thor]> !usb > itsux2bu
[18:42] <pe4nut> have chinese ?
[18:42] <IdleOne> !cn
[18:43] <pe4nut> I come from china
[18:43] <UberN00b> headkase 314 NICE, it worked .. but would that mean that i have to type this everytime i log in ?
[18:44] <mgraf> ²/wc
[18:44] <mgraf> whoops
[18:44] <mikebeecham> has anyone else experienced nvidia drivers corrupting after a recent update?
[18:44] <pharasoth> !ikonia yeah it is supported..
[18:44] <ikonia> pharasoth: that's a good start, so it maybe worth logging a bug with nvidia
[18:45] <headkase314> UberN00b: If you have Skype set to start everytime you log in (System > Preferences > Startup Applications then you just edit that and in the command to start you put the full "bash -c '..." line.  Then log out and log back in to make sure it's done right.  The hard part is over, you know the command you need now just need to get it into startup applications!
[18:45] <hugo> boa tarde ppl
[18:45] <IdleOne> evening hugo
[18:46] <UberN00b> headkase314 thanks a bunch !!
[18:46] <pharasoth> !ikonia yeah but i'm sure this has been fixed already, ubuntu 8.04 only supports 71.86.04 and the drivers up to 71.86.13
[18:46] <headkase314> UberN00b: You're very welcome!  I love it when it works out! ;)
[18:46] <IdleOne> pharasoth: please don't use ! before your sentences it is going to trigger the bot every time
[18:46] <hugo> Does anyone talk Portuguese?
[18:46] <nimbiotics> hello. Im having problems with compiz since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04. As soon as I select the "Reflection" effect my system crashes. Last time, I had to login in safe mode and unmark it but now, i cannot see any of the efects, more specifically the cube. is there any way i can reset all values? What can I do? TIA!
[18:46] <IdleOne> !br | hugo
[18:47] <pharasoth> oh i thought that was how to directed a message to someone
[18:47] <vivek243> ubottu does we have marathi community??
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  the ccsm tool has a 'reset alll to defaults' button. or you could delete the compiz config files
[18:47] <IdleOne> pharasoth: just type the persons name you are talking to and they will be highlighted
[18:47] <pionar> hi everyone, running lucid.  every five minutes or so, gwibber pops up the broadcast accounts settings window.  anyone know what's up with this?
[18:47] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: Thansk
[18:47] <bugre> wath comands for ffmpeg?
[18:47] <pharasoth> so no one here has nvidia 71.86.13 functional at all in any ubuntu version
[18:47] <abhijit> vivek243, I am marathi. there is indian channel. and there is marathi translations group on laucnhapd
[18:47] <kushalsejwal> hello everyone, bought a brand new laptop today. I always have xp dual booted with ubuntu, but for my laptop I just want Ubuntu, so please tell me how to ideally do the partitions
[18:47] <pharasoth> IdleOne ok thanks i was misled by someone
[18:48] <IdleOne> pharasoth: no worries :)
[18:48] <abhijit> !in | vivek243
[18:48] <ikonia> pharasoth: most people use the supported versions
[18:48] <vivek243> abhijit where i can find it?
[18:48] <pe4nut> hi ,
[18:48] <vivek243> ubottu thanks..
[18:48] <abhijit> vivek243, find what?
[18:48] <[thor]> hi pe4nut
[18:48] <abhijit> !bot | vivek243
[18:48] <pharasoth> ikonia yeah i would love to if i could fix this one issue, but it seems im the only one who has experienced it
[18:49] <pe4nut> i come from china
[18:49] <[thor]> pe4nut: are you looking for help? or to talk?
[18:49] <pharasoth> ikonia ive tried disabling composite and enable HWCursor and all sorts of things
[18:49] <pe4nut> thanks
[18:49] <ikonia> pharasoth: best thing is to log the bug with nvidia
[18:49] <pharasoth> anyone know a way to disable silken cursor?
[18:49] <vivek243> abhijit indian channel?
[18:49] <storf> does anyone has some aids on ossv4 with asus xonar stx?
[18:50] <abhijit> vivek243, type /j #ubuntu-in
[18:50] <IdleOne> vivek243: type /join #ubuntu-in
[18:50] <ikonia> storf: please try to explain your problem clearly?
[18:50] <storf> Wel
[18:50] <storf> I can't use ever yamplifier on the card
[18:50] <storf> every
[18:50] <storf> so I need aids
[18:50] <ikonia> storf: what version of ubuntu are you using
[18:51] <storf> lts
[18:51] <ikonia> storf: which one
[18:51] <storf> latest
[18:51] <tensorpudding> 10.04 lts?
[18:51] <storf> yeah thats it
[18:51] <pharasoth> does ubuntu 7.10 have a restricted drivers manager?
[18:51] <ikonia> storf: please show me the output of "uname -a" in this window
[18:51] <storf> wasnt it the lynxy lucid ?
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> Its like puling teeth to get answers from question makers.. some times in here. :)
[18:51] <storf> ikonia: you dont believe me?
[18:51] <ikonia> storf: please show me the output of "uname -a" in this window
[18:51] <bock> anyone have problems with built in sd card reader not importing images correctly (distorted/ pixelated)
[18:51] <xangua> pharasoth: 7.10 is unsupported
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> pharasoth:  thats almost 3 yrs old. I suggest upgradeing.
[18:52] <IdleOne> pharasoth: 7.10 is EOL you may want to update to a newer version
[18:52] <queso> Help appreciated here: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9661796 Thanks
[18:52] <storf> ikonia: Linux computer 2.6.32-22-server #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 20:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:52] <pharasoth> nvidia's oldest legacy driver is unsupported after 8.04
[18:52] <ikonia> storf: what is your machines hostname
[18:52] <nikitis> I need help setting up VNCServer with a changed port.  I have completely screwed up my vnc install.  I have files from some guides that probably may be interfering with correct setups.  I need someone to hold my hand and help me fix this.
[18:53] <pharasoth> all i need this box for is fluxus with hardware enabled opengl
[18:53] <storf> computer
[18:53] <storf> cant you read ?
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: so explain the problem you're having
[18:53] <storf> are you trolling me ikonia ? I just told you
[18:53] <storf> and you ask useless hostname questions
[18:53] <storf> !admin
[18:53] <storf> !op
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: no, you didn't make sense with your question, so please try to explain it a little clearer
[18:53] <gnomefreak> ?
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: can I help ?
[18:53] <storf> yes
[18:54] <storf> kick ikonia
[18:54] <IdleOne> storf: please stop
[18:54] <gnomefreak> ikonia: feel free to take this one :)
[18:54] <ikonia> storf: please stop being silly, please explain your question clearly
[18:54] <storf> ok
[18:54] <storf> one sec
[18:54] <bock> IM having problems with viewing jpeg pics from my built in sd card reader. anyone know how to fix this?
[18:54] <bullgard4> '~$ ls -al /tmp/.ICE-unix; total 16; ... ; srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255, ...' What does the file access permission 's' (first position) mean?
[18:55] <pharasoth> is anyone familiar with the cause of a graphical glitch around my cursor in opengl with nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.04 lts??
[18:55] <ikonia> bullgard4: setuid
[18:55] <storf> ikonia: I cant use all amps on the card
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  i belive you could always give the port/options on teh command line and they will override any config file ssttings.
[18:55] <ikonia> pharasoth: you're not using the supported drivers, you'll need to take that up with nvidia
[18:55] <tensorpudding> anyone know how to cull non-existent files from banshee's database?
[18:55] <storf> I have ubuntu, believe me
[18:55] <ikonia> storf: all amps ?
[18:55] <rynne> hi everyone im relitivly new to using ubuntu this isnt my first time using it but this time i want to really understand how everything  works like the file structure of it and really how to run linux to its full potential
[18:55] <pharasoth> no i AM using the supported drivers
[18:55] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to setup vnc to load on boot before login, it's a vmware server guest.
[18:55] <storf> ikonia: not all amps
[18:55] <ikonia> pharasoth: oh, you're using the drivers from the hardware drivers package
[18:55] <anomaly> rynne get a copy of Rute and the Ubuntu 10.04 book.. both online and free
[18:55] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: but I've fouled it up big time
[18:55] <ikonia> storf: what do you mean all "amps"
[18:56] <storf> ikonia: I cant use the headphone amp
[18:56] <ikonia> storf: ok, the sound card
[18:56] <storf> am-pli-fier
[18:56] <pharasoth> ikonia yeah i am fresh install
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  you could do that from rc.local   or just ssh into the box and run it as needed.
[18:56] <daniele> welcom
[18:56] <rynne> anomaly thanx
[18:56] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: i'd prefer to not have to ssh first
[18:56] <storf> ikonia: are you sure you arent the one thats being silly? I asked about a xonar stx with ossv4, what would you think it is?
[18:56] <tensorpudding> anyone use banshee and know how to prune non-existent files from its library? rescanning doesn't seem to get rid of the dead files
[18:56] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: I plan on accessing it via my cell phone
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  there might be some info ouit ion doing it via upstart. but ive not done that job in ages.  rc.local can do it also, if you want it running as a specific user.
[18:57] <daniele> ciao .lista film
[18:57] <ikonia> storf: I don't know what an xonar stx is, and I don't know what osssv4 is, hence asking you to explain the problem
[18:57] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for your help.
[18:57] <storf> ossv4 is like version 4 of the open sound system or something like that
[18:57] <IdleOne> !attitude > storf
[18:57] <ikonia> storf: yes, I'm just reading now
[18:57] <storf> why are you admin here if you dont know linux
[18:57] <storf> ok thanks
[18:57] <jpds> storf: Does anyone?
[18:57] <danieldd> Hello. I know its not exactly the right place but I can't find anywhere else to ask this: Anyone knows where can I find a Java support chat?
[18:57] <storf> dont mind my english
[18:58] <kreme191> I just installed a webcam, the video works, but the audio is not working in skype. when i type "ls /dev/audio*" into terminal there is one extra audio device when the camera is plugged in then when it is not, i think ubuntu recognizes it, but i cannot find it in the skype options, is there another way to test it
[18:58] <eyoung101> Question:  I am a helper by nature, I want to install Ubuntu alongside Gentoo.  Gentoo uses GRUB2 and is already installed, and I see ubuntu uses GRUB2, so how do I install 10.04 into seperate partition without wiping out my current grub>
[18:58] <storf> IdleOne: what is your problem, are you from germany?
[18:58] <jordantbro> Anyone had the issue where items in a gnone desktop panel don't remember their position between reboots?  On 10.04.
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> danieldd:  #java perhaps?
[18:58] <ikonia> storf: I'm pretty confident with linux thanks, but your questions are just nonsense words, hence why I need clarification on your issue
[18:58] <gnomefreak> storf: please stop now.
[18:58] <storf> wtf
[18:58] <gnomefreak> storf: please stop now.
[18:58] <storf> ikonia:
[18:58] <danieldd> its an invite-only channel and I don't have an invitation
[18:58] <eyoung101> make tthat GRUB1 for gentoo
[18:59] <ikonia> eyoung101: the way ubuntu uses grub2 is not a useful layout with other dual booting distro combinations
[18:59] <pionar> eyoung101, when run the installation, you can choose to have ubuntu share the system with gentoo.  It'll take care of everything
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> danieldd:  MOST likely its a 'regiestered nick only' channel.
[18:59] <storf> ikonia: www.opensound.com OSS never heard of it?
[18:59] <ikonia> storf: yes, I'm aware of open sound
[18:59] <pharasoth> ikonia knowing that my cursor glitching is only in opengl apps, is it possible that using a different display manager could solve this?
[18:59] <IdleOne> storf: conform to our guidelines or I will remove you permanently. Thank you.
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  ubuntu can proberlyhande booting booth os's.
[18:59] <danieldd> Dr_Willis: Oh, Thank you, I'll try to register and check it again, I am a bit new at all this IRC stuff. Thank you.
[18:59] <storf> IdleOne: I dont understand the problem thank you and confirmed
[18:59] <ikonia> pharasoth: that's not a bad suggestion, I don't think it will work, but its certainly worth a look
[18:59] <Tux414> Hi all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ. My microphone does not work. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[19:00] <storf> not everyone can speak the best english IdleOne, kicking without warning is a bit harsh
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Tux414:  i would check the forums - Often they have specific tips for problems like that.
[19:00] <pharasoth> ikonia ive tried different window managers but that didn't work
[19:00] <eyoung101> do i need to choose install in mbr or into root /
[19:00] <josephseraos> Hi there.. Could you help me, please? How do I change the HOSTNAME's computer
[19:00] <Tux414> Dr_willis: I tried
[19:00] <josephseraos> sorry, Computer's HOSTNAME
[19:00] <storf> ikonia: so can you help me with getting the card t owork with oss? with ALSA I get static noise
[19:00] <bugre>  I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list
[19:00] <ikonia> eyoung101: grub goes on the mbr
[19:00] <oCean_> josephseraos: Change /etc/hostname
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  i always put grub2 on my mbr.  Its normally smart enough to see/setup other disrtos.. iof course since you are a gentoo user. adding a propper entry to the grub2 menus shouldent be too hard for you. :)
[19:01] <xangua> storf: then try a channel with your native language
[19:01] <pionar> Tux414, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes has a fix
[19:01] <storf> ikonia: oss4 that is not the deprecated oss
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !oss
[19:01] <storf> xangua: please be a bit more supportive
[19:01] <ikonia> storf: I'm aware of oss4 I'm just looking at the status in ubuntu's repo's now
[19:01] <bugre> danieldd: I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list
[19:01] <storf> thanks ikonia
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[19:01] <IdleOne> storf: I did not remove you due to your English. I removed because of yuor bad attitude towards the helpers in this channel
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> bugre, really?  ctrl+s bring up Network List on my xchat
[19:02] <eyoung101> yes but Gentoo uses Grub 1 not grub 2
[19:02] <ikonia> storf:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[19:02] <ikonia> storf: have you checked the supported status of your card
[19:02] <Tux414> pionar: I will check it
[19:02] <bugre> sorry, its ok
[19:02] <Tux414> thanks
[19:02] <storf> IdleOne: I meant that maybe you mis understood what I meant
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  it dosent matter.. ubuntu and tye system will be using Grub2 to boot both os's - you wont want to let gentoo do any 'grub' work at all.
[19:02] <ikonia> storf: it does suggest not all cards have full support
[19:02] <bugre> ask error
[19:02] <storf> IdleOne: dont have to be so hard
[19:03] <kreme191> could someone help me get my microphone on my webcam working
[19:03] <magicianlord> kreme191: alsamixer -c0
[19:03] <storf> ikonia: yes but the alsa support is really ad
[19:03] <storf> bad
[19:03] <xangua> kreme191: did you check your sound settings¿¿
[19:03] <storf> alsa sucks basicly
[19:03] <FloodBot1> storf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <IdleOne> storf: My nationality has nothing to do with anything. You asking me if I am German was just your trollish way of saying I am being a nazi.
[19:03] <magicianlord> alsa is scratchy and shuts off
[19:03] <kreme191> xangue: how do i do that
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, so long as all goes as planned (it doesn't always ;)  grub2 should be able to automatically find both ubuntu & gentoo kernels for booting, and grub1 will no longer be required.  best of luck.
[19:03] <magicianlord> can ubuntu fix alsa please?
[19:04] <kreme191> xangue: i checked them on skype but it did not recognized the camera, yet the video works
[19:04] <storf> IdleOne: what?
[19:04] <storf> where are you talking about?
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: I understand alsa may not be your thing, but check the status of your card's support in oss4
[19:04] <IdleOne> I am done with you storf. I hope you can get the help you need.
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: it doesn't appear that oss4 is actually packaged into the ubuntu repos
[19:04] <xangua> magicianlord: ubuntu uses pulseaudio by defaul
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  sounds like an alsa bug. You did check the forums/bug reports? for your speicifc card and alsa?
[19:04] <bugre> Alt+ w, arrow down, enter = chanel list
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: it seems that 3rd parties package/maintain oss4 for ubuntu
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> !info oss4-base
[19:04] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: good spot, looks like the docs are out of date
[19:05] <gnomefreak> thats new
[19:05] <bullgard4> What is the function of the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix/ ? It includes a file  'srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255' which designates the PID of my GNOME session. Does »ICE« stand for »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  yep. the docs are a bit old..
[19:05] <bugre> click in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat
[19:05] <xangua> kreme191: use Tab to complete names, clic in the little sound icon>preferences
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> xangua, ubuntu uses pulseaudio which uses alsa for low level sound support.  just sayin'
[19:05] <storf> IdleOne: yes ikonia helped me perfectly. I dont see why you bully new people like this. You dont have to be elitist or something
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  i had to double check. I got so many extra ppa's installed. :)
[19:05] <raven> how to display foldersize with ls?
[19:05] <storf> ikonia: thanks for the help
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> raven:  use 'du
[19:05] <storf> i'll try to patch it
[19:05] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: yeah, I found a PPA too, saw nothing in main
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> raven:  or df.
[19:05] <storf> I found some pointers ikonia
[19:05] <kreme191> xangue: i'm in sound preferences and and when i test the device there is nothing
 click in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat
[19:06] <storf> ikonia: I read here that I might have to patch my PCI ID
[19:06] <ikonia> storf: doubtful, but if you think it will help
[19:06] <raven> Dr_Willis, only the size of all file of one single folder
[19:06] <xcthulhu> Hi!  I
[19:06] <eyoung101> so I should let ubuntu handle the booting, as such do i need to put ubuntus kernel and image in my gentoo boot partition?  hda1= windows, ditching 4 ubuntu hda2=/boot hda3=/ hda4=swap
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> raven:  not sure on what you mean.. but du has dozens of options
[19:06] <xcthulhu> I'm trying to wite a daemon that moves a *.tsv file every time one gets dumped into a folder
[19:07] <storf> ikonia: yes it is because my card is not in the driver or ssomething, but the driver should support it
[19:07] <raven> Dr_Willis, du always runs every folder
[19:07] <storf> the normal xonar is in it
[19:07] <xcthulhu> I'm wondering if anybody knows something that already does this
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  use of /boot/ partitions are a bit 'old skool' these days.
[19:07] <ikonia> eyoung101: you're going to have a mass ammount of problems, as gentoo's updates will want to update menu.lst, on the gentoo disk, and ubuntu will want to use grub2 in /etc on the ubuntu disk, neither will be aware of each other
[19:07] <storf> thank you ikonia
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, ehhh.  i wouldn't want to comment on your rather complex setup.  you might want to ask in the gentoo irc channel for advice as well.  good luck man.
[19:07] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: they used to work for dual boot situations, but with ubuntu's grub2 layout, it's a real pain now
[19:07] <Dr_Willis>  du -hs bin/
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> 13Mbin/
[19:07] <ohir> raven: man du. du -sh /top/path to get summary size
[19:08] <raven> Dr_Willis, ohir that's it tnx
[19:08] <eyoung101> is there a way i can make ubuntu use grub 1?
[19:08] <lathan> hi, i had a question, if someone could offer some insight
[19:08] <ikonia> eyoung101: sure, look at the grub-legacy package
[19:08] <ohir> raven: any command you have on terminal has its manual
[19:09] <ohir> raven: man command will give you quick insight into
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> It pays to read the man pages.. :) or command --help
[19:09] <guydoingstuff> having trouble with grub2 and booting.  In a live cd session and fdisk -l is not seeing one of my HDs
[19:09] <raven> ohir du not ;)
[19:09] <kreme191> xangue: fixed it, thanx
[19:09] <xangua> sudo apt-get install grub eyoung101
[19:09] <xangua> i don't know if that removes grub2 package or if you have to do something else
[19:10] <xangua> kreme191: better use Tab to auto-complete names
[19:10] <guydoingstuff> cant install grub to a drive i cant find
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  what are you going to gain by using grub1 on both os's ?
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> guydoingstuff, grub2 is separate from hd detection.  if "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't list your device you might want to have a look through "dmesg" and see what the kernel is saying (if anything) about your HDs.  Is the HD seen in BIOS?
[19:10] <xcthulhu> Hmm... well, just in case someone ever runs across a log of this IRC chat through google or something, the answer to my question is that I want to use "watch"
[19:10] <kreme191> xangue: what do u mean auto complete names
[19:10] <guydoingstuff> HD is seen in bios
[19:11] <eyoung101> can i get that during the install?  if i use grub 1 i can chainload ubuntu from Gentoo
[19:11] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, can you find the related device in /dev?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  you can proberly chainload with grub2 also.. or let grub2 handle the whold booting prlcess and not chainload.
[19:11] <guydoingstuff> i see it, should be dev/sda
[19:11] <guydoingstuff> dont really know what to do with it there though
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> grub2 manages to see all the other disrtos on my systems. which can cause issues. It added meny entries for the USB hard drive isntalls  las ttimne
[19:12] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, do you have a /dev/sda1 or 2
[19:13] <lathan> so, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[19:13] <eyoung101> i understand what i can and cant do with grub 2 but i have issues b/c im using an old school setup as mentioned earlier
[19:13] <guydoingstuff> youre right.  I do not see it.  sdb2-5 are there... I only see sda with no numbers following it
[19:13] <josephseraos> oCean_, To change, do I need restart pc?
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, there are some advanced grub options during an install (sorry not familiar with exactly what is there, other then install to different location) but i doubt grub1 is available... at that point.  perhaps selecting not to install grub might be an option?
[19:13] <Kungfood> hello all
[19:13] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, something happened to you partition table then
[19:14] <oCean_> josephseraos: you can set is for now using the hostname command (hostname mynewhostname). Editing /etc/hostname will make it persistent at reboots
[19:14] <guydoingstuff> reinstall?
[19:14] <Kungfood> ultimate *nix nub here, having issues with ubuntu netbook
[19:14] <om26er> Kungfood, explain
[19:14] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, can you remember how the disk was patitioned ?
[19:14] <nimbiotics> How do I delete the compiz config files? TIA!
[19:15] <lathan> can anyone help with my question?
[19:15] <Kungfood> i installed 10.04 netbook edition on an old toshiba laptop (just a a place to learn linux, it was a free laptop) i cant seem to get the screen to display correctly, it have a black border and inch or two thick around it\
[19:15] <frenchy> im trying to boot from a live cd and all i get at the bottom there is an icon that looks something like a film strip maybe, its rectangular and a circle with a person in it
[19:16] <frenchy> does anyone know what this means
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> yeah.  it is a 150 hd.  first 80gb are ubuntu 10.04.  40-50gb are ntfs xp sp3.  remaining ext 3 i think
[19:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of the /tmp/.ICE-unix directory? Does "ICE" here mean »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> frenchy, use a serial keyboard and hit any key
[19:16] <Kungfood> i have checked the packages, and the correct package IS installed, for the trident driver
[19:16] <gnomefreak> Kungfood: it is best to use normal installer for laptops. netbook installer for netbooks
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> if it is a usb keyboard it might not recognize keystorkes
[19:17] <frenchy> guydoingstuff, ahh why cant you boot with usb keyboard? just curious
[19:17] <Kungfood> when i go to ch3eck the available resolutions though, 800x600 is the highest it will give me
[19:17] <guydoingstuff> i have no idea
[19:17] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, i'd recommend desktop over NBE if you have the room, NBE is very "limited".  Good luck man.  the screen issue sounds like graphics drivers, "lspci | grep -i vga" to find you video card ;)
[19:17] <lukafulmine> hi
[19:17] <lukafulmine> i want to tell a question
[19:17] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, try this guide
[19:17] <Barnabas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[19:17] <guydoingstuff> usb will work fine once you are in though
[19:17] <Barnabas> Under lost partition
[19:17] <lukafulmine> i have installed mozilla thunderbird i have add 2 mail
[19:17] <Kungfood> ive got the iso for the regualr 10.04, but i wanted to sort this out first, reason being is that when it was an xp machine, it had the same issue until i got the right driver installed
[19:18] <lukafulmine> 1 hotmail and 1 gmail
[19:18] <guntbert> !enter | lukafulmine
[19:18] <josephseraos> oCean_, If I change file /etc/hostname, will it change in hosts too?
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, trident ;)  good luck man.
[19:18] <magicianlord> Kungfood: what issue
[19:18] <guntbert> !hostname | josephseraos
[19:18] <Kungfood> lol yeah
[19:18] <oCean_> josephseraos: nope, you have to change that too
[19:18] <Kungfood> i figure fixing this will teach me a bit about linux :)
[19:19] <lathan> can anyone help with my question? i can type it again if need be
[19:19] <Kungfood> can i msg someone so i wont lose responses in the flood?
[19:19] <lukafulmine> but when i add the second account of gmail appears this answer:"incorrect username or password",but the username and password it's correct what's happened
[19:19] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, i hope the lesson doesn't end up being how poor linux supports Trident graphics chips ;)
[19:19] <guntbert> !pm | Kungfood
[19:19] <gnomefreak> lathan: ask again please
[19:19] <lathan> so, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[19:19] <xangua> lukafulmine: gmail pop or imap¿¿ you first need to go to gmail web and enable one of those
[19:19] <headkase314> lathan: Possible solution.  Install Ubuntu to the hard drive.  Then boot off the SD card and mount the Ubuntu HD.  Then copy the files over and reboot into the Ubuntu HD.
[19:20] <Kungfood> ha, well i have been readin a bit a bout that...i did find a solution that involves editing the xorg.conf file, except that the file does not exist on my system...
[19:20] <xangua> lathan: just coppy your home
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  you can mount the persistantce file  and copy files from it. via the proper 'mount' command
[19:20] <guntbert> Kungfood: you can tell your irc client to not show the joins/parts -- so the screen will not scroll so fast
[19:20] <Kungfood> ok
[19:21] <frenchy> ok unplugging the USB keyboard i still get the icon and when i press enter its just a black screen with a cursor flasshing at the top
[19:21] <lathan> does /home contain all my changes?
[19:21] <twoeightone> My CD/DVD drive doesnt respond anymore after I've installed Ubuntu.  I am dualbooting, so it works just fine in Windows.  Anyone experienced something like this?
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> lathan, this isn't really what you are asking about but it's probably a lot easer to fresh install and simply backup you homedirectory files/settings and use !clone to reinstall apps.  good luck.
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> !clone | lathan
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  /home is where your users files are at.  not sure what you mean about 'changes'
[19:21] <pjc> boas onde posso descarrgar o tema do ubuntu 9.10 (aquele amarelo)
[19:21] <headkase314> lathan: All your settings are in /home some of them are hidden by having a . before the file name
[19:21] <mikebeecham> I wonder if anyone can explain this to me....I just did an update, which seemed to have corrupted my video drivers.  I could not enable desktop effects and the only way I could repair the damage was to revert back to Nvidia drivers 173 - Can anyone help me understand why?
[19:22] <guntbert> !pt | pjc
[19:22] <lathan> by changes, i meant my installed programs and such
[19:22] <pjc> ok
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  the perisstant save file has all the 'changes' -  your USERS setings will be in the /home dir on that pereisant file.
[19:23] <frenchy> guydoingstuff, unplugging the usb and using serial does the same thing
[19:23] <Kungfood> so if i know that i have the trident package installed, but i still see no xorg.conf file..what do i do?
[19:23] <lathan> okay, thanks everyone. i'll try it out later today
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> lathan:   if you want to reinstall all the same apps. use that 'clone' factoid info.  then copuy the files from the persisnats /home/ to your actual home.
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  X auto configures for the most part these day. No xorg.conf needed for most people
[19:23] <gnomefreak> guntbert: please use !bleh > nick instead of |
[19:24] <magicianlord> when you install xorg and nouveau at the same time, do you absolutely need to configure xorg.conf or is this optional for a single screen setup with native resolution?
[19:24] <lathan> okay, thanks
[19:24] <guydoingstuff> frenchy, then it must be tied to bios.  WHen I get that icon you described, I have to either wait a minute for the installer session to kick in or use a serial keyboard
[19:24] <alexander_> err... ebook reader and calibre wont open an ebook... it's just blank i guess
[19:24] <josephseraos> guntbert, When I set hostname, do I need restart pc?
[19:24] <Kungfood> is it possible to make an xorg.conf for just the purpose of configuring for this driver?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  somnthing is not clear.. xorg uses nouveau, for nvidia cards..   and you dont need a xorg.conf normally these days
[19:24] <zack1> I just installed 10.04 on a new hard drive i got for my laptop. Upon booting I recieve this error "error:out of disk." and i have a prompt that says "grob rescue>" is there something wrong with the harddrive or grub?
[19:24] <axisys> how do take a snapshot or memory of your system in linux? is solaris you run uadmin 5 0 to panic it and that saves the memory/kernel and dump into a disk
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  you could make one if yiou wanted to
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  my nvidia-settings tool makes one with a few settings in it for my systems.
[19:25] <guntbert> josephseraos: I would say no need for restarting
[19:25] <alexander_> the only reason i installed linux was to /open this ebook and it wont work/ can anyone possibly help?
[19:26] <Kungfood> i guess i will go ahead and reinstall with desktop, then try and tackle this again
[19:26] <gnomefreak> alexander_: you would have to aska  question before anyone can think about helping you
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> alexander_:  theres ebook readers for windows I imagine.. but if it has some sort of DRM/protection on the ebook.. well.. that limits what you can do
[19:26] <alexander_> yeah... basically ebook reader and calibre don't open it
[19:26] <alexander_> and the barnes and noble program crashes
[19:26] <frenchy> guydoingstuff it goes away then i just get a black screenw ith a blinking cursor
[19:26] <gnomefreak> ah i missed his question
[19:27] <magicianlord> Dr_Willis: so i can install nouveau and not configure anything?
[19:27] <gnomefreak> magicianlord: it is installed for you
[19:27] <zack1> after installing 10.04 on a new hard drive for my laptop, I recieve this error "error:out of disk." upon booting. i have a prompt that says "grub rescue>" I'm at a loss as to what to do. I was also having problems installing xp as well. Is it the hard drive?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  nouveau is imnstalled by default I thought. My nvidia cards DONT work right with it.. and it does seem to be the default
[19:27] <gnomefreak> magicianlord: install the nvidia drivers from jockey-gtk
[19:27] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: it is but no 3D support
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak:  it barely works with 2d on my box. :) has a lot of other issues also.
[19:28] <lopek> i installed 'libircclient' library from ubuntu repository, tried to compile some example code and received this: http://pastebin.com/9pHzmKcx
[19:29] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: it does and always will. nididia doesnt really "support"(lack of better word) it
[19:29] <alexander_> i'm just going to call barnes and noble n try to get my money back
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> alexander_:  good luck with that.
[19:29] <alexander_> yeah fat chance eh
[19:29] <Barnabas> lopek, you need the development files to with your library
[19:29] <NemesisD> how to i get a startup script to run at boot (without using some gui tool to do so)
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> One of the many reasons i dont do 'e-books;'
[19:29] <Barnabas> they are also in the repository
[19:29] <josephseraos> guntbert, When I changed hostname, My pc continues with old hosname
[19:30] <gnomefreak> restart than
[19:30] <lopek> Barnabas well, i've installed libbircclient-dev
[19:30] <lopek> hmm
[19:30] <headkase314> alexander_: Regarding DRM -> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/
[19:31] <alexander_> thanks headkase314 i'll take down the url
[19:31] <Barnabas> lopek, then the sourcecode is not compatible with the version of your library
[19:31] <sharif> Hello
[19:31] <sharif> How to open terminal as admin ?
[19:31] <zack1> Upon booting I get the an "error: out of disk." message. What does this indicate?
[19:31] <bastid_raZor> sharif: in a terminal type: sudo -i
[19:31] <guntbert> josephseraos: you mean the prompt in the terminal? like joseph@oldhost ? just try to open a new terminal window
[19:31] <headkase314> alexander_: You're welcome, it's an offshoot of GNU philosophy -> http://www.gnu.org/  GNU is a big part of Linux and Ubuntu
[19:31] <gnomefreak> lopek: did you try sudo apt-get build-deps <packagename>
[19:32] <nikitis> Does vmware server automatically use port 5900 for remote connections?
[19:32] <Netsan> hey guys, have some question
[19:32] <gnomefreak> Netsan: ask it please
[19:32] <Netsan> some friend of my bought some netbook that ubuntu was install on him from start.
[19:32] <Netsan> from default i mean,
[19:32] <guntbert> sharif: you usually don't do/need that
[19:32] <Netsan> and the user is: user, but he dont know the password
[19:32] <tensorpudding> does ubuntu come with an MTA?
[19:32] <Netsan> any idea?
[19:32] <lopek> gnomefreak i didn't, i'm not really in compilation ;)
[19:32] <gnomefreak> Netsan: please keep it on 1 line
[19:32] <Netsan> sorry.
[19:33] <magicianlord> Netsan: just reinstall it
[19:33] <josephseraos> guntbert, well, when I open a new terminal, it was change, but on LAN, my pc didn't change
[19:33] <WetWired_ALUG2> Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.
[19:33] <Netsan> magicianlord: no other idea?
[19:33] <gnomefreak> Netsan: it will be easier to reinstall
[19:33] <gnomefreak> Netsan: ask the seller of it
[19:33] <Netsan> i know, but he dont know how to do it
[19:33] <magicianlord> Netsan: maybe it's 'user' or none. or you can boot into it from a live flash stick and add another user
[19:33] <mikebeecham> ...and does anyone know how to root a 2.2 rom on the Galaxy?
[19:33] <gnomefreak> what he used but he should have never sold it without giveing a password
[19:34] <sharif> How to go to filesystem in terminal ?
[19:34] <gnomefreak> sharif: what dir are you looking for
[19:34] <sharif> var directory
[19:34] <psycho_oreos> cd /var
[19:34] <gnomefreak> sharif: you start in $HOME
[19:34] <guntbert> josephseraos: that part "but on LAN, my pc didn't change" was not clear for me, what did you try?
[19:34] <moesian> Hello I'm trying to run a command in my maya bin directory called mayapy. I get the following when I try to execute it: "mayapy: command not found". I can see the command there. How would I go about resolving this?
[19:34] <magicianlord> Netsan: can you do it for him
[19:35] <WetWired_ALUG2> Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> moesian, it might not be in $PATH
[19:35] <sharif> to write $home
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  the command has a : in its name? that dosent seem right.
[19:35] <ilovefairuz> moesian: ./mayapy
[19:35] <Barnabas> moesian, chmod o+x mayapy perhaps
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  or is it in the current directory?  (im missreading i think)
[19:35] <josephseraos> a local web
[19:35] <josephseraos> LAN
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  the 'current directory' is not in the default path. thats why you need the ./command syntax
[19:36] <josephseraos> guntbert, Local Area Network
[19:36] <ilovefairuz> moesian: that's if you're in the directory of the command, if you're not, type the full path, like /opt/maya/bin/mayapy
[19:36] <guntbert> josephseraos: yes :-), but how did you try to reach your pc over the LAN?
[19:37] <lopek> gnomefreak i've tried, no difference
[19:37] <moesian> Dr_Willis: ./mayapy worked thankyou, I was in the directory
[19:37] <josephseraos> guntbert, on a windows station
[19:37] <TechMiX> Hi all! is there a way to find out what is playing on rhythmbox right now?! i mean maybe it's stored in a file or smthing
[19:37] <josephseraos> guntbert, I put \\myNewHost
[19:38] <josephseraos> guntbert, Then I can't connect, but with \\oldHostName I got it
[19:38] <kushalsejwal> I have a brand new laptop 320GB , want to install ubuntu in it, no dual boot with windows! How to do the ideal paritioning? (also how many primary and logical paritioN?)
[19:39] <chrissharp123> !partitioning | kushalsejwal
[19:39] <josephseraos> guntbert, understand?
[19:40] <guntbert> josephseraos: ah I see .. you windows machine doesn't know about the new name - windows networking is (for me) a rather complicated thing - try to restart your ubuntu machine (as you said earlier) - that could help
[19:40] <sharif> How to set permissions on var/www files ?
[19:40] <bquadra> hi
[19:40] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: you can get it through a dbus call
[19:41] <TechMiX> ilovefairuz: could you explain more?
[19:42] <josephseraos> guntbert, OK.. I'll try restart to see. Would be great don't need to restart, right?
[19:42] <harmandeep> hi Guys
[19:42] <harmandeep>  need help with VMware Workstation with windows Guests on a Linux Host ...
[19:42] <harmandeep> on UBUNTU Host
[19:42] <sharif> Is this correct : chmod -R 660 /var/www/folder/
[19:42] <harmandeep> problem is regarding plugging USB Devices IN and OUT of VM
[19:42] <harmandeep> I am able to PLUG-IN USB Devices in Windows Guest without any problem , but when i DISCONNECT those devices , they don't work on Linux HOST
[19:43] <harmandeep> what you need to do is to not DISCONNECT those devices physically, but to use the DISCONNECT button to make it visible back on linux HOST
[19:43] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: many application provide a cross-application accessible interface called dbus, through which you can call code of another application, rythembox providesa dbus interface to make other application capable of communicating with it, this is an example of using it for pidgin http://blog.viamentis.com/articles/tag/pidin-rhythmbox-dbus-ipc/
[19:43] <Barnabas> sharif, you probably do not want the same permissions on directories and folders
[19:43] <headkase314> TechMix: enter: "rhythmbox-client --print-playing" at a console without the quotes
[19:44] <guntbert> josephseraos: yes it would be great, but that is not a problem of ubuntu but of the "master browser" not updating its data
[19:44] <Barnabas> sharif, find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; will find all directories and set them to something reasonable
[19:44] <theclaw> Hi. I'm using a encrypted root filesystem, it's been encrypted by the ubuntu installed. Is there any documentation on how I have to set up a new hard disk so that ubuntu can boot from it?
[19:45] <theclaw> *by the ubuntu installer
[19:45] <Barnabas> for files  find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[19:45] <TechMiX> ilovefairuz: thank you very much, usefull info. didnt notice dbus at all.
[19:45] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: you're welcome
[19:45] <TechMiX> headkase314: seems easy! thank you
[19:46] <dummy> Hello. Could you please tell me where VLC expects the channels.conf file?
[19:46] <sharif> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:46] <headkase314> TechMix: You're welcome!  That command would be useful for scripts.. ;)
[19:47] <sharif> Barnabas, find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:50] <sharif> im not sure why
[19:50] <Flecha> Does anyone hows a software for energy management of a group of computers? Something that, installed in the server, will shutdown the machines that are not been used.
[19:50] <Flecha> knows*
[19:50] <kb3ien> any idea how to make my X sessions persistant accross heads?
[19:51] <kb3ien> i'd like to be able to change user A to B on head1 and then login as A again on head2 and reattach the same session.
[19:52] <Barnabas> sharif the \; in the end is very important
[19:52] <hspaans> Flecha: check the power management settings in GNOME
[19:53] <guydoingstuff> having an issue with a lost partition.  following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost%20Partition
[19:54] <guydoingstuff> fdisk does not see drive.  BIOS does.  guide does not work because drive is not seen in live session
[19:54] <Flecha> hspaans, but I would like to use a neural network for this. So on some moments it would leave more machines on, because those moments use to have more people
[19:56] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, have you been fiddeling with the partition table, or has this come about by itself ? It could be a disk error. And then you would be better of making a dump of the disk to a file
[19:57] <josephseraos> guntbert, the "hostname" command didn't change the hostname
[19:57] <kishajos> is there anyone who plays or played CSS on Ubuntu?
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> Barnabas, everything is backedup.  I fiddle with the machine alot.  advanced newb class?  underlying issue was something with grub2
[19:57] <guntbert> josephseraos: did you edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts ?
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> NOw I can reinstall
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> i cant I mean
[19:58] <josephseraos> guntbert, no, I didn't
[19:58] <livingdaylight> what is the command line to install something with wine, please?
[19:58] <guydoingstuff> why would bios see the HD and ubuntu does not?
[19:58] <llutz> livingdaylight: wine foo.exe
[19:58] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, the first thing is to determine if there is anything important on the disk you need
[19:58] <livingdaylight> llutz, cheers
[19:58] <guntbert> josephseraos: you should have - ubottu told you about it
[19:58] <Barnabas> if not reinstall
[19:58] <guntbert> !hostname > josephseraos
[19:58] <frenchy> is it possible to use nvidia drivers on a livecd?
[19:59] <josephseraos> guntbert, I thought the hostname command would do it
[19:59] <HeadAche> hello. would anyone be able to help with (livecd) install to a ssd (shell, fdisk)?
[19:59] <romanrishafk> has anyone successfully set up ubuntu to act as a media extender to the xbox360
[19:59] <romanrishafk> other than just music
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> i can reinstall.  Nothing important that cant be accessed somewhere else. I love backintime app.
[20:00] <guntbert> josephseraos: no, that was only temporary, please follow the advice from ubottu
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> Now I cant reinstall.  I doesnt see the drive
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> bios does
[20:00] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, you should test the disk then
[20:00] <arek> helo..
[20:01] <headkase314> romanrishafk: I have, using uShare.  uShare is in the Ubuntu repositories.  It needs to be run in a console when you need it with: "ushare -t -x".  It is picky about the file formats for video, xvid/mp3 works well for the format.
[20:01] <Barnabas> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<disk> THIS WILL WHIPE THE DISC CLEAN
[20:01] <abhijit> any help regarding my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391
[20:01] <guydoingstuff> take it out and put it in an external HD case...?
[20:01] <romanrishafk> headkase314: and this is compatible w/ 360
[20:01] <josephseraos> guntbert, Oh.. I didn't pay atention
[20:01] <josephseraos> :-)
[20:01] <Barnabas> And it will take a while
[20:02] <guntbert> josephseraos: :)
[20:02] <headkase314> romanrishafk: It is compatible with 360 when you use the "-x" command option.  It does NOT transcode the file formats though so your source files have to be in a format that the 360 accepts.
[20:03] <sharif> how also to make the files and directories to be chomd
[20:03] <romanrishafk> headkase314: thanks for the info
[20:03] <anomaly> any recommendations for text to speech on linux?
[20:03] <nikitis> I like seriously need help with VNC!    I can't find anything useful on this subject.  I want to connect via vnc to my vmware guest ubuntu on port 5904.  Why can't I do this without first logging into gnome?  It won't let me do it before I log into gnome.
[20:03] <raven> CP how to skip existing files
[20:04] <guydoingstuff> thanks barnabas
[20:05] <raven> CP how to skip existing files
[20:05] <headkase314> romanrishafk: you're welcome, there is also: http://www.getdeb.net/software/Fuppes Fuppes from GetDeb but I have no experience with that!
[20:06] <Mike_Flip> where would I find the inf file for the b43xx driver on an acer aspire 5000?
[20:06] <kanito> que tal
[20:06] <Barnabas> romanrishafk, I successfully use mediatomb
[20:06] <Barnabas> FreeBSD -> ubuntu and DNLA enabled tv
[20:07] <kanito> alguien por ah
[20:07] <czr_> hi all. is anyone aware of a backup-program that was designed for remote storage with encryption (when one doesn't trust the remote storage provider like S3 or similar)
[20:07] <tensorpudding> !es | kanito
[20:08] <kanito> ok
[20:08] <daniele> buona sera..è la prima volta che uso x chat
[20:08] <daniele> vorrei sapere per scaricare i film dove devo andare
[20:09] <HeadAche> need installation help (fdisk / alignment). if you can help, please let me know.
[20:09] <nikitis> How does one setup a remote login nowadays with 10.04?  Since xdmcp has been obliterated?
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: NX?
[20:10] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: what is that?
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> HeadAche: pastebin fdisk -l
[20:10] <josephseraos> guntbert, I got it
[20:10] <josephseraos> guntbert,  thank you
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
[20:11] <guntbert> josephseraos: you're welcome :-)
[20:11] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: So is VNC like obsolete?
[20:11] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: not but a lot less efficient
[20:12] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, whats better than vnc?
[20:12] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: is there a way to connect via your android phone through NX?
[20:12] <KrisKo> RealOpty: try nxserver
[20:12] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: very compressed
[20:12] <RealOpty> how come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?
[20:12] <ilovefairuz> !it | daniele
[20:12] <RealOpty> nice
[20:13] <abhijit> how can i make cairo dock only start at startup in gnome session and not in kde session?
[20:13] <RealOpty> might i add im using nvidia drivers
[20:14] <josephseraos> guntbert, Hey, I sent you a private message. Could you answer me, please?
[20:14] <kushalsejwal> I want to make a separate partition to put my data like music, video etc into it so that it get backup and won't get erased in future clean install. What should I di?
[20:15] <daniele> grazie...
[20:15] <th_> I have a dual screen setup. I was wondering if its possible to expand menu bar to second screen
[20:15] <ilovefairuz> czr_: deja-dup
[20:15] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, you can have your separate /home
[20:15] <RealOpty> KrisKo, hmmm so nomachine is great for VNC? seems to be kinda a little too much just for remote desktop
[20:16] <dadawg> can anyone help me with a samba problem?
[20:16] <dadawg> when I run the findsmb command nothing appears
[20:16] <hazard> With this installation, I thought I'd try using more defaults, so I stuck with the Transmission torrent client that was installed "out of the box" so to speak.
[20:16] <hazard> ANybody happen to know how to get Transmission reporting stats to the trackers?
[20:16] <czr_> ilovefairuz, can it be automated via cron without requiring a graphical login or X at all?
[20:17] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: nomachine is not VNC, but similar in purpose though not identical, it's more like remote GDM logins
[20:17] <RealOpty> ah
[20:17] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, I have bought a new laptop today 320 GB please guide me what should be the ideal paritions?
[20:17] <ilovefairuz> czr_: it's a GUI application, if you want something scriptable, try rsync or scp
[20:18] <nikitis> i'm trying to get some kind of remote login working.
[20:18] <nikitis> i'm having no luck
[20:18] <frenchy> does anyone here have an nvidia card and are using tvout/component out?
[20:18] <nikitis> this NX seems to have to download and compile from svn
[20:18] <abhijit> !pm | kushalsejwal
[20:18] <czr_> ilovefairuz, neither rsync nor scp work for this, but I foudn out that deja-dup uses duplicity under the hoods and it looks like more what I'm looking for. thanks for the hint.
[20:18] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, okay :(
[20:19] <dadawg> nvm apparently I had to use "Connect to Server"
[20:19] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, i will tell you. but i dont have any solid reason for that scheme. better you ask someone else or decide yourself.
[20:19] <ilovefairuz> !paste > HeadAche
[20:19] <josephseraos> guntbert, Ok. You was great! Tnaks a lot! See you
[20:19] <guntbert> josephseraos: have a nice time
[20:20] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, please share, I will then decide for myself :)
[20:20] <ResQue> i am following a tutorial on how to use pgp, i understand how to encrypt messages, but i would like to know how i can sign the message i send, so the receiver knows its from me
[20:20] <ResQue> do i just sign the file after its encrypted
[20:21] <ResQue> detach0sign?
[20:21] <tensorpudding> ResQue: are you using gpg from the command line, or from in a program?
[20:21] <ResQue> detach-sign*
[20:21] <ResQue> tensorpudding: command line
[20:21] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, the simplest is using all disk for '/'. thats the easient to install and maintain too. another one is having your /home on different partition. now it may be renge in 40-50gb as per your need. i generally need 70gb. remaining you can assing to /
[20:21] <daniele> server film
[20:21] <tensorpudding> gpg --sign is used for signing
[20:22] <evud> Hello. I have ubuntu 9.1 with Eclipse installed on it. I updated all the packages and now whenever I open Eclipse it crashes, any ideas what to do?
[20:22] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, this might help you though the article seems old: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/apcs03.html
[20:22] <tensorpudding> evud: try opening eclipse from inside a terminal and pastebin the error message
[20:23] <kushalsejwal> abhijit: okay
[20:23] <ResQue> tensorpudding: i see, so i can sign a message to prove its form me, or sign a public key in my db to prove its legit. is that right?
[20:23] <evud> tensorpudding: here is the message http://vargof.pastebin.com/0YYs52Nt and here is the file with more information about the error http://vargof.pastebin.com/3Ei8Ng1D
[20:23] <subcool> Hey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails
[20:23] <tensorpudding> ResQue: yes
[20:24] <ResQue> tensorpudding: thank i was getting a little confused, with it being used for more than one task, but it makes sense now signing  thank you
[20:25] <guydoingstuff> @barnabas.  I think it is a bad HD.  I popped it out and tried getting the liove session to see it as an external hd.  it did not work
[20:25] <HeadAche> Install help needed (fdisk, aligning). need many aspirin. :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471586/
[20:25] <RealOpty> so whats the main reason to use nomachine?
[20:27] <tensorpudding> evud: i'm afraid i don't really know, it looks to me like a bug with xulrunner?
[20:30] <ResQue> what is a quick way of searching for a string within a man file
[20:30] <ResQue> so man gpg for example, i want to look for the string "a"
[20:30] <jpds> ResQue: "/a"
[20:31] <nisstyre65> Researcher: man gpg | grep "a"
[20:31] <nisstyre65> uh
[20:31] <nisstyre65> ResQue
[20:31] <ResQue> jpds: thank you,
[20:31] <ResQue> nisstyre65: thanks
[20:32] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor
[20:32] <nisstyre65> ResQue: the | pipes the output of man to the input of grep
[20:33] <Chopinn> can ubuntu 64 bit run 32 bit programs? like windows?
[20:33] <evud> tensorpudding: he, i removed xulrunner(I don't know what that even is) and Eclipse now works just fine! Thank you
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> HeadAche: did you paste?
[20:33] <jeiam> hello (:
[20:33] <jeiam> may i ask a question?
[20:33] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> Chopinn: mostly, yes
[20:33] <tensorpudding> I think xulrunner is what firefox uses for something, but I'm not sure what.
[20:33] <ridin> Chopinn, yes
[20:34] <_hunter_> Chopinn: but not all of them
[20:34] <tensorpudding> !ask | jeiam
[20:34] <TeslaTony> Chopinn: Yes. There are a handfull of programs that might give you a headache, but I've run into very, very few
[20:34] <josephseraos> jeiam, you did :)
[20:34] <josephseraos> jeiam, Other?
[20:34] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:34] <jeiam> as a it department administrator, i have been considering switching my business to linux for a long time
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: xulrunner is mozilla's runtime and rendering engine, more like a JVM for java
[20:35] <tensorpudding> Hmm, so removing it would most likely cause firefox to no longer function
[20:35] <ResQue> i am trying to find just the letter "a" on its own in a man file, but i keep coming back with every word that contains an a, how can i search for just "a" or "-a" on its own
[20:36] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: depends on what version you have installed, but if something requires it, it will prompt you before removal
[20:36] <jpds> ResQue: "/ a "
[20:36] <jeiam> i have now switched all the computers in the business to run linux ubuntu
[20:36] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:36] <tensorpudding> I'm only saying this in regard to evud's issue with eclipse
[20:36] <ResQue> jpds: haha i really should have thought that one through . thank you
[20:36] <jeiam> however, i'd like to set the computers up to use the exact same software as before
[20:37] <tensorpudding> jeiam: the same software as before you switched to linux?
[20:37] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:37] <jeiam> tensorpudding: yes
[20:37] <guntbert> !repeat > joee
[20:37] <tensorpudding> jeiam: what did you switch from?
[20:37] <Chief> #javabeats.FM
[20:37] <joee> !eatshit > guntbert
[20:38] <jeiam> tensorpudding: windows xp sp3. i would like to set the computers up to run microsoft office 2003 and internet explorer 8
[20:38] <tensorpudding> jeiam: if you switched from some version of Windows, you're not going to be able to use all of it, probably only a small portion
[20:38] <jeiam> how can i do this?
[20:38] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: eclipse requires xulrunner to render web content inside itself (like its welcome screen and web previews)
[20:38] <jpds> jeiam: You'd have to use Wine to run those, or just use alternatives like OpenOffice and Firefox.
[20:38] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I believe Crossover will support Office 2003
[20:39] <ResQue> Thank you so much people, i dont think moving to linux would have been so easy if it wasnt for all the help people in this channel give for free. it can be very stressful sometimes, and talking to people who have done it before really helps. So THANK YOU to anyone how offers help for free in here.
[20:39] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It mgiht also run in Wine, but that's less certain.
[20:39] <ilovefairuz> jelam: but openoffice is very smiliar, free, and runs on windows, mac and gnu/linux
[20:39] <jpds> Office 2007 works fine under Wine 1.2.
[20:39] <tensorpudding> jeiam: CrossOver is not free though.
[20:39] <jeiam> jpds: unfortunately, alternatives to microsoft internet explorer 8 will not be justifiable, as our corporate intranet requires internet explore
[20:39] <jpds> jeiam: Ew.
[20:39] <nite> sup
[20:40] <jeiam> does microsoft develope an internet explorer for linux?
[20:40] <nite> why would you ever want to use it..  firefox always.
[20:40] <ResQue> jeiam: can you not just run ie with wine, or even terminal servies
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> jelam: get someone from google to talk to them about chrome and their Chrome Frame for IE
[20:40] <k00giez> jeiam:  you can run it through wine
[20:40] <red> jeiam: no :P
[20:40] <headkase314> jeiiam: I vouch for Crossover Linux.  It runs Microsoft Office almost perfectly.  Crossover is a paid app and unless there is a specific reason you can't work around by using OpenOffice then you should really consider the Open alternatives.
[20:40] <jpds> nite: You joined to late to see why.
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> k00giez: no, not IE8
[20:41] <nite> it happens
[20:41] <k00giez> hi ilovefairuz really
[20:41] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It's unfortunate, but IE8 isn't supported in Wine or CrossOver
[20:41] <ResQue> jeiam: or run ie on windows inside a vm like sun virtualbox
[20:41] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I believe that IE7 is though
[20:41] <jeiam> does openoffice support the same functionality as microsoft office? does it support doc and xls?
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> jelam: using free/open source alternatives will cost less, be more manageable in the long term
[20:41] <nite> I've attempted to conform IE7 to Wine..  no luck, but it is possible
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - yes
[20:42] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It supports doc and xls, not sure about docx
[20:42] <red> openoffice is an awful awful suite
[20:42] <red> it works, but is not nearly at the level of ms office :p
[20:42] <jeiam> docx support is a must
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - but open office can't open microsoft data base
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> jelam: yes it does, please download a copy and conduct a feasibility test for your corporate
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - docx support too ;]
[20:42] <headkase314> jeiam: It will read practically most files you receive and you can "save as.." to Microsoft Office formats but sometimes there are small errors in the layout of the documents you send to others.
[20:42] <ResQue> tensorpudding: i think it opens docx, but will not save it, in the offical release
[20:42] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It will not support everything that Office 2003 supports, you might have to give it a try and see yourself.
[20:42] <red> and foremost, the openoffice powerpoint equivalent is .. no words to describe it
[20:42] <wilton> #sexo
[20:43] <HeadAche> need install help (livecd/fdisk/aligning). sadly in a bit over my head.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471590/
[20:43] <jeiam> docx support is good news - unfortunately it is an absolute imperative that it supports everything that microsoft office supports
[20:43] <jeiam> does openoffice support presentations?
[20:43] <ilovefairuz> jelam: you may also use the free web-based office suit from mircosoft to open any problematic documents
[20:43] <_hunter_> emm, yes ? :P
[20:43] <erUSUL> jeiam: yes
[20:44] <_hunter_> just like i said
[20:44] <_hunter_> open office only don't support mdb
[20:44] <jeiam> okay, i will look into both of these suggestions - thank you all very much!
[20:44] <headkase314> jeiam: Since you're already on Linux you should already have OpenOffice installed.  Do some tests?  Try to open some documents you already have and see the results?
[20:44] <_hunter_> mdb = microsoft data base (access)
[20:44] <abhijit> _hunter_, what is mdb?
[20:44] <tensorpudding> jeiam: If Office support is paramount, and you have licenses for 2003 that you bought and paid for, it would probably be best to purchase CrossOver and use Office through that.
[20:44] <abhijit> _hunter_, ok
[20:44] <_hunter_> abhijit, no problem
[20:44] <ilovefairuz> jelam: also check http://office.microsoft.com/
[20:44] <nite> openoffice comes embedded already, most of the time..  but either way, easily doomed into your distro use.
[20:45] <jeiam> headkase314: i am on my home computer right now, but tomorrow i will look into openoffice support
[20:45] <subcool> Hey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails
[20:45] <subcool> lil help- my boot is kinda messed up
[20:45] <jeiam> from what you have all said, it sounds like a decent replacement for the microsoft suite
[20:45] <erUSUL> jeiam: all this info can be gathered in the oo.org website
[20:45] <Tux414> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my mic doesn't work at all. I have tried gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and it isn't helping much.
[20:46] <jeiam> erUSUL: thank you very much for your help :)
[20:46] <jeiam> okay, as for my second problem with internet explorer, does microsoft release an internet explorer for linux?
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> !sound | Tux414
[20:46] <_hunter_> no,
[20:47] <nite> use firefox..
[20:47] <nite> lol
[20:47] <_hunter_> jeiam...
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> !who | _hunter_, nite
[20:47] <jeiam> _hunter_ yes?_
[20:47] <headkase314> jeiam: Microsoft does not generally support Linux for reasons stemming from their business model.  There is no Internet Explorer on Linux.
[20:47] <_hunter_> !jeiam it's a heresy :P
[20:47] <madhu_> hi
[20:47] <tensorpudding> i believe they once did release an IE for Unix-likes
[20:48] <tensorpudding> that was ages ago though
[20:48] <tensorpudding> Ah, IE5 was the last version supported on Unix
[20:48] <jeiam> headkase314 _hunter_: so there is no way of running internet explorer on ubuntu?
[20:48] <_hunter_> !jeiam no
[20:48] <tensorpudding> jeiam: IE6 will run in Wine and CrossOver
[20:48] <abhijit> !ot
[20:48] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Newer versions are not going to work
[20:48] <madhu_> i have a problem with pppoe  , it alway show modem hangup
[20:48] <madhu_> plz suggest me what to do
[20:48] <headkase314> jeiam: As stated I'm pretty sure Crossover will run up to IE7 but for IE8 no.
[20:48] <jeiam> tensorpudding: my business requires internet explorer 8
[20:48] <_hunter_> !jeiam but you have other, like firefox, google chrome, opera
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> jelam: google releases a very good web browser for windows, mac and gnu/linux, it can be even used as the "engine" for existing IE installations, giving you the advantage of having the same IE interface but using a modern, very secure browser
[20:49] <tensorpudding> jeiam: There is an IE emulation mode in Google Chrome I think.
[20:49] <tensorpudding> Or was that Firefox that had that IE mode
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: it's called, Chrome Frame
[20:49] <_hunter_> i think that was firefox
[20:49] <_hunter_> i don't see it in chrome
[20:49] <jeiam> i'm not sure if any of these suggestions are feasible - my business develops websites for the internet explorer browser
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: _hunter_: firefox has an IE Tab, it's a different thing
[20:49] <tensorpudding> It was an extension
[20:49] <Tux414> I tried other forums and I tried on ubuntu website and had no luck
[20:49] <ResQue> why does one need to use ie anyway, i mean it reads data in an opensource format? what do you have that needs I.E?
[20:50] <Tux414> I had some help in ubuntu women but still having no luck
[20:50] <tensorpudding> ResQue: corporate intranet software requires IE, is what jeiam said
[20:50] <jeiam> ResQue: my business develops websites for internet explorer.
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> jelam: unless they use very specific technologies, like activex, using a different modern browser, won't be a problem at all
[20:50] <ResQue> tensorpudding: did he mention the software, 80% of the time i have had problems i just changed the refer head in firefox and it worked fine
[20:50] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: we require that our clients do not use a different browser :(
[20:50] <mawst> Netflix uses activex.
[20:50] <mawst> :/
[20:51] <tensorpudding> In this world with Mac and Linux and mobile devices, requiring people to use IE is just ridiculous
[20:51] <erUSUL> ^
[20:51] <ResQue> ^
[20:51] <erUSUL> hear hear
[20:52] <TeslaTony> In this world with Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, etc. it's silly to require IE
[20:52] <wildeja> Hi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks
[20:52] <jeiam> tensorpudding: other browsers are not in high enough demand for our company to develop for them. there is an ie for mac, i am to understand? also, mobile devices have ie mobile.
[20:52] <erUSUL> not to mantion you must follow standars... and IE is *not* a standar
[20:52] <ResQue> with html 5 and the iphone i think we will be seeing a lot less of activex and flash, i hope so anyway
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> jelam: then you'll end having to tear your web interface and rebuilt it at  some point n the future, supporting popular modern browsers is a lot easier now than before
[20:52] <TeslaTony> Screw the operating systems. You have to deal with all those browsers regardless of your platform
[20:52] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Which mobile devices use IE mobile? Surely no iPhone or Android phone or Blackberry?
[20:52] <headkase314> jeiam: Your requirements are "locking-in" to Microsoft technologies.  Open alternatives take more work but generally give you more control - if that is a priority for you - over your own information.
[20:53] <tensorpudding> jeiam: IE for Mac hasn't been supported in years.
[20:53] <Tux43> My internet connection information speed says unknown or  1mbps does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:53] <jeiam> headkase314: microsoft technology is a standard in the workplace, which is why we require it :/
[20:53] <_hunter_> so why you install ubuntu?
[20:53] <jeiam> i was unaware that ubuntu lacked support for microsoft technology before i installed it
[20:54] <phaer> jeiam: Why do you just support ie? Most things should be quite easy in cross-browser dev nowadays.
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> jelam: most modern browsers just use one of two engines, gecko and webkit, so they work in a very very close manner
[20:54] <ResQue> jeiam: Hold on MS isnt the standard in the work place, its the standard in your work place
[20:54] <nite> VM Widows and use Office
[20:54] <jeiam> phaer: most of the sites we create often do not display correctly in sites other than ie...
[20:54] <tensorpudding> Virtualization probably isn't an option for underpowered office computers
[20:55] <nite> true...  underpower is such a depressing contept.. I love my beast..
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> jelam: than you have incompetent web developers
[20:55] <jeiam> ResQue: and other workplaces besides.
[20:55] <koios> hi all
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> jelam: professional web developers keep compatibility in mind at all times
[20:55] <nite> I often forget my VMs require such taxing on my processors..
[20:55] <phaer> jeiam: Well then its a problem of your sites. It should be possible for any company to accept web standards and create a few workarounds for old browsers like ie 6.
[20:55] <sweetpi> ilovefairuz: amen
[20:55] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: i'm not allowed to comment on the skill of my web developers ;)
[20:55] <scribawf> firefox3.5 bundled w/ubuntu 10.04 fails/crashes to start what do I do?
[20:55] <headkase314> jeiam: You need to re-think your situation very carefully.  Open is a very sound position, proprietary technologies are the opposite of that.  You need a top to bottom evaluation of your priorities.  Google "Open Source vs. Proprietary" to get some reading materal.
[20:55] <koios> does anyone know a website indicating speed up of of Lucid at boot time ?
[20:56] <headkase314> *material
[20:56] <ResQue> jeiam: i admit that a lot of work places use windows, but its not the standard every where, and 90% of windows network will be reliant on a linux kernal somewhere in there inferstructure
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: no need to comment, it's obvious
[20:56] <phaer> scribawf: Try to start it from a terminal and look at the output.
[20:56] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I'm sure you're not solely responsible for your businesses decisions, and we're not trying to denigrate your business, but if you wish to only support Microsoft's software, you should definitely stick to Windows, because no other OS is able to
[20:56] <High_Priest> hi ppl, I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[20:56] <padhu> I want small games to play in ubuntu 10.04. please list out. Don't point playdeb.
[20:56] <phaer> scribawf: If you do not understand it, paste it on a pastebin site and put the link in here ;)
[20:56] <kyubutsu> take it to offtopic, folk
[20:56] <scribawf> phaer: OK will give it a try tu
[20:56] <ResQue> padhu: not so much a small game, but look for savage 2
[20:56] <HeadAche> would very much like help with install. sadly in over my head (livecd/fdisk/aligning).  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471596/
[20:57] <nite> Micro$oft true facts..  proprietary..
[20:57] <padhu>  ResQue: sure
[20:57] <nite> hence..  OPEN SOURCE floats my thoughts...
[20:57] <wildeja> Hi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks
[20:57] <ResQue> padhu: its a very very additive game, works on mac, windows and linux nativly and is a mix between an RTS and a FPS
[20:57] <ResQue> padhu: and its free, there is a pro version but only for clans and scoreboards and stuff
[20:58] <phaer> padhu: Frogatto! Its a nice jump and run
[20:58] <padhu> ResQue: apt-get ?
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: specify the name of the application
[20:58] <phaer> padhu: Or maybe OpenTyrian its a retro aracde shooter
[20:58] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Battle Tanks
[20:58] <ResQue> padhu: no you will need to download it, they dont have a repo so apt-get will not work, you can download the binary from
[20:58] <nite> <<<<  OpenSuse, Mint 8 & 9, BT4...  choose your weapon..
[20:58] <nite> apt-get...  to got get..  etc..
[20:58] <nite> go*
[20:59] <ResQue> padhu: http://www.savage2.com/en/main.php
[20:59] <padhu> ResQue: thank you
[20:59] <ResQue> padhu: i will give you a game later if you like, i got work todo now
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: sudo apt-get install btanks
[20:59] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is ndiswrapper ?
[20:59] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, I downloaded the latest version v0.98 but now realise i dont have a clue to get it working
[21:00] <BiggFREE> Is it right written ?
[21:00] <nite> ndiswrapper provides setup possibilities for your wiress NICs
[21:00] <padhu> ResQue: sure, it is for childrens 10 year old
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: ubuntu has the most recent version, use the command i've given you
[21:00] <erUSUL> wildeja: it seems to be a mod for warcraft iii you need the game installed ( dunno if it works in wine)
[21:00] <BiggFREE> nite ... ty
[21:00] <nite> normally is the only way of getting your wireless to recognize in any of the Ubuntu distros
[21:00] <erUSUL> wildeja: either way no very ontopic here
[21:00] <ResQue> padhu: also if you have any ideas for simple games let me know, i run a small amature games dev team. and we are focusing on 2d cross platform games at the moment
[21:00] <jeiam> i would love to switch entirely to non-proprietary software, but at the moment my business explicitly requires internet explorer :/
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: it's a wrapper to use windows wireless drivers on gnu/linux
[21:01] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:01] <erUSUL> jeiam: then stay on windows. join ##windows
[21:01] <stukad> hey, anyone tryed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ (10.10) ?
[21:01] <wildeja> erUSUL, Not talking about warcraft, must be mix up, i asked about installing program to ubuntu
[21:01] <ResQue> jeiam: i think you need to run internet explorer then haha
[21:01] <jeiam> so until non-proprietary software is the norm, i'm afraid i must stick to my companies wishes
[21:01] <padhu>  ResQue: ok
[21:01] <nite> Jeiam, I understand and it's unfortunate..  so, keep your head in the opensource game and your work status in the Micro-shit areas..  it'll get better sooner or later..
[21:01] <wildeja> erUSUL, sorry
[21:01] <headkase314> jeiam: That is called being "locked-in" and generally puts your business at a disadvantage as you are not Free to choose the best technology rather you must align with your proprietary vendor.
[21:01] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is the right name ?  apt-get did not find it.
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: you'll gain a lot more than what you'll lose in the short term
[21:02] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:02] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:02] <jeiam> headkase314: is there anyway to deal with the locked-in situation?
[21:02] <nikitis> I'm so pissed off.  Why is it so hard to get a vnc server to run on boot, and log into it and get a gnome login screen??    Can someone please for the love of all that is holy, help me out with this?
[21:02] <erUSUL> wildeja: this ? http://btanks.net/v2/ then read.... i quote « n Battle Tanks you have to buy tanks, weapons and equipment to destroy the enemy base. The map requires Warcraft III The Frozen Throne. Here you can download the latest version. »
[21:02] <kyubutsu> !offtopic | jeiam
[21:02] <Tux414> jeiam: What kind of problems are you having with firefox on Ubuntu?
[21:02] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is the right name ? apt-get did not find it.
[21:02] <tensorpudding> nikitis: have you looked into xdmcp?
[21:02] <jeiam> kyubutsu: i am not off-topic, as this is a specific ubuntu-related question.
[21:02] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:03] <wildeja> sorry hadn't a clue
[21:03] <nikitis> tensorpudding: YES, and it's broken in 10.04
[21:03] <jeiam> tux414: my business requires internet explorer :/
[21:03] <headkase314> jeiam: Research and go through the one-time pain to move to technology that is Open and Free.  See: http://www.gnu.org/ as a primer on Free and research what you particularly need from there.
[21:03] <tensorpudding> nikitis: broken?
[21:03] <nite> ... is on BT4 at the moment..  so much better..
[21:03] <stukad> whats the difference with 10.10 alpha 1, alpha 2 and the daily build?
[21:03] <nikitis> tensorpudding: yes as in code has changed, no longer supported,  doesn't work
[21:03] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: setup  pilot test experiment with only a small group of employees (convert them completely to gnu/llinux) and see how things go,
[21:03] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:03] <Pici> !maverick | vershan stukad
[21:04] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: this is a good idea that i think i'll put to test :)
[21:04] <kyubutsu> jeiam: how is your business requiring internet explorer ubuntu specific.. take it to #offtopic
[21:04] <nite> Jeiam, i'd love to be a fly on the wall when you run the test piloting for your emps on linux..
[21:04] <shurane> Is there a smaller ubuntu channel? I find it hard to get questions answered here, since it's so large.
[21:04] <HeadAche> are you guys sure you arent getting trolled  by the micro$oft questioning?  ...it sure seems like it to me
[21:04] <wildeja> Thanks all, sorry again for the misunderstanding, gnite
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: and if you encounter any problems with gnu/linux software, come here and ask
[21:04] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: in the meantime, is there a way i can move the rest of my business back to windows and internet explorer?
[21:04] <scribawf> bundled firefox 3.6 fails to start in ubuntu lucid w/this output from terminal Attempting to load libmoonloaderxpi
[21:04] <scribawf> Segmentation fault   what this mean?
[21:04] <nikitis> tensorpudding: so how else can I get a vnc server to load on boot, connect to it and get a gnome login?
[21:04] <ResQue> padhu: before i forget if you are looking for an mmo there is dofus
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:05] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Reinstall windows and the software you had on the machines.
[21:05] <red> shurane: you could try your local ubuntu channel
[21:05] <Tux414> jeiam: Any web page that can be viewed on IE can be viewed on other web broswers. In fact Internet Explorer 8 which is the latest verison doesn't support html 5.  Is there a specific reason why you have to use internet explorer?
[21:05] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I hope you kept backups?
[21:05] <ResQue> padhu: its a bit of a strange game and written in flash, but i head it works ok on linux very strage type of game play
[21:05] <red> usually #ubuntu-xx
[21:05] <jeiam> tensorpudding: the machines had oem copies of windows - is there a way of restoring this without having to purchase new licenses?
[21:05] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: ty
[21:05] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: back up your data, reinstall, restore backups, etc, pretty typical process
[21:06] <nikitis> So nobody here connects their boxes to vnc without first logging into gnome?
[21:06] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?
[21:06] <sweetpi> jeiam: ##windows
[21:06] <Tux414> jeiam: Which version of windows did you have?
[21:06] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: we don't take backups of workstations - only the file and network servers
[21:06] <kyubutsu> Tux414: stop feeding the troll
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Tux414
[21:06] <kyubutsu> we need an op really
[21:06] <jeiam> jeiam: microsoft windows xp with service pack 3
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: we can't help you if you don't keep backups
[21:07] <shurane> red: cool, thanks
[21:07] <sinurge> whatz a zsync file
[21:07] <Pici> jeiam: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[21:07] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: i see - is there a way i can restore the copies of windows WITHOUT backups? ://
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: we don't offer windows support
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: please stick to ubuntu-related questions
[21:07] <jeiam> Pici: i am trying to move my business to ubuntu, and i am enquiring for ubuntu-related help :-)
[21:08] <RealOpty> how come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?
[21:08] <ResQue> you could use a linux boot disk to repair you hardisk, or to recover a currupt partiion very easly
[21:08] <Q_Continuum> 10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?
[21:08] <Pici> jeiam: It looks like you're asking about Windows.
[21:08] <nikitis> Anyone?
[21:09] <jeiam> Pici: i am asking about *moving away from* windows.
[21:09] <headkase314> jeiam: Please consider contacting Canonical directly.  They have business support options that may suit you.  Without knowledge you can trawl a lot but Canonical will actually be able to assist you in a meaningful manner.
[21:09] <nite> windows YUCK
[21:09] <ResQue> i done that 100s of times just search ubuntu data recovery
[21:09] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:09] <Pici> jeiam: So what *exactly* is the question.
[21:09] <jeiam> headkase314: thank you very much :-) i will try this - are canonical likely to be able to help me set up internet explorer on linux?
[21:10] <koios> hi guys, how can I speed up boot time of my 10.4?
[21:10] <ilovefairuz> Pici: it's already answered, don't bother
[21:10] <jeiam> Pici: i have moved my business to linux, but we require internet explorer on all of our machines.
[21:10] <headkase314> jeiam: I am beginning to doubt your sincerity as that question has already been answered.
[21:10] <jeiam> headkase314: ?
[21:11] <ResQue> Hahahahaha
[21:11] <ResQue> :-D
[21:11] <kyubutsu> there are other questions to be answered, let us move on.. tired of this windows chat
[21:11] <Pici> jeiam: I don't believe  that any current version of IE will work on Linux (i.e. with WINE).  Your only other option would possible be crossover office or virtualization.
[21:11] <High_Priest> yessir_turan, like mine
[21:11] <High_Priest> "yes"
[21:11] <High_Priest> and its about ubuntu :)
[21:11] <jeiam> Pici: okay - thank you very much for your help :-)
[21:11] <Pici> jeiam: I don't know anything about crossover office, so you're on your own there.
[21:11] <koios> yep
[21:12] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:13] <jeiam> High_Priest: create the file. xorg.conf has not been created by default for several releases now.
[21:13] <High_Priest> this is the first time I'm using ubuntu
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: switch to run level 3 and run: Xorg -configure
[21:14] <nite> High_Priest:  and you'll never go back to the dark side of micro$oft...  good choice..  but I would suggest OpenSuse or Mint also..
[21:15] <red__> hi any one know how i get send a text free from my pc
[21:15] <High_Priest> nite, actually I was using slackware for years, and had winblows on my laptop, but got sick and tired of it so I thought of trying some other more friendly distro on my laptop
[21:15] <kyubutsu> High_Priest: have you checked system>preference>mouse
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> !ot | red__, search google
[21:16] <High_Priest> kyubutsu, yes, but nothing interesting there
[21:16] <High_Priest> will Xorg -configure ask me all the details or it will create the config with current options?
[21:17] <High_Priest> and also
[21:17] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?
[21:17] <stukad> anyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: no, it will generate an xorg.conf with default configuration
[21:18] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, gr8, thanks
[21:18] <Pici> !paste | red
[21:18] <yodaddy> does anyone know how to install silverlight threw the wine application?
[21:18] <edbian> Is there a setting for what opens in a new tab in firefox?
[21:19] <guntbert> nite: please keep to ubuntu support in your comments
[21:19] <nikitis> Question:  When I added x11vnc to /etc/rc.local and rebooted after setting the execution bit.  Why won't x11vnc not let me connect?
[21:19] <headkase314> youdaddy: The Linux alternative to SilverLight is MoonLight http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Have you explored that?
[21:19] <nite> oh relax
[21:20] <blitzo> thumbdrive: need to make a file system: gparted and fidsk won't write a partition table.  it's not mounted.  what am i doing wrong?
[21:20] <stukad> !TRIM
[21:20] <ilovefairuz> edbian: no, edit > preferences, but there are addons that add more options like an opera-like speed dial
[21:21] <edbian> ilovefairuz, Ok thanks.
[21:21] <nikitis> Where did all the smart people go?
[21:21] <blitzo> how to make a file system on a thumbdrive?
[21:21] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What are advantages of changing RUNLEVEL ?
[21:22] <stukad> anyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?
[21:22] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: keeping activity to a minimal
[21:22] <phaer> blitzo: mke2fs /dev/<thumbdrive device> will make an ext2 fs.
[21:22] <jpds> stukad: I don't think it's enabled in the Lucid kernel.
[21:22] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?
[21:22] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Thanks a lot
[21:23] <blitzo> phaer, don't i have to partition it?
[21:23] <kyubutsu> !runlevel | BiggFREE
[21:23] <joona> Hey, is it possible to make a standalone program (.i386?) from a source coed?
[21:23] <BiggFREE> kyubutsu: Thanks
[21:23] <phaer> blitzo: Not necessarily. But you can do that either with (c)fdisk /dev/<thumb> on the command line or System -> Administration -> Disk Utility
[21:24] <padhu> any network usage recorder in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:24] <wisey> i've noticed that some pc's have two cpu sockets on one motherboard, with each socket running a multi-core cpu. What is the advantage of doing this?
[21:24] <madjoe> hey guys, can anyone help me to remove the old flashplayer and install a new one in my Chrome?
[21:24] <nite> quick question..  what would someone recommend as a prime portscanner for Linux?  I've had issues with some..
[21:24] <Utrinqueparatus> why doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?
[21:24] <coz_> joona,  many times  compiling  the source code withouth installing it makes an executable that ca be run
[21:24] <edbian> nite, nmap
[21:24] <jpds> nite: nmap
[21:25] <nite> nmap works, sometimes..  don't know why it fails so often.. looking for an alternative option..
[21:25] <joona> coz_:okay, so I'm quite a beginner when it comes to source codes, would you have time to explain more to me e.g. how to
[21:25] <jpds> nite: How does it fail?
[21:25] <coz_> joona,  alot depends on how the developer designed it however./..in "general""  to compile it is   ./configure  then run make
[21:25] <joona> okay
[21:25] <nite> corrupt sourcing..  and inability to read.. but only sometimes...
[21:25] <nite> so, alternative?
[21:25] <nikitis> I'm seriously gonna cry.  I've been on this problem for 6 hours.  Can someone work with me to figure out how to get a VNC Server to load on boot and allow me to connect to it without first logging into gnome?
[21:25] <nite> just to compare to..
[21:26] <blitzo> lsof gives an error "WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/dd/.gvfs" there is no such file or directory - what does it mean?
[21:26] <coz_> joona,   at that point the executable should have been made  and it can be run  with ./nameofapplication   when you cd into the source package after having run both ./confgure and  make
[21:26] <headkase314> joona: See -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[21:26] <jpds> nikitis: You mean like XDMCP?
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: kyubutsu: that's correct, must've mixed it with another distro
[21:26] <coz_> joona,  otherwise a    "sudo make install"  would be run to actually install the application onto the system
[21:26] <joona> coz_: okay, I'll try. Thank you!
[21:26] <jimbo_> When I use "Preferences -> Monitors" to activate and rotate my monitors, how can I find out what commands Gnome is using to do that?  It's xrandr I assume, but I need the full commands.
[21:26] <nikitis> jpds: How can I get xdmcp to work on ubuntu 10.04?
[21:27] <jimbo_> nikitis: sure I can probably help with that, gimme a bit.
[21:27] <coz_> joona,  whichever application...look for a  "INSTALL"  or "README"  file located inside
[21:27] <coz_> joona,   read both of those
[21:27] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, how to switch to runlevel 3? telinit 3 or init 3 does not work
[21:27] <blitzo> hi coz_, can you let the ciaro-dock folks know that their new anti-spam filter prevents me from posting altogether?  i can no longer participate in testing at all and have given up.
[21:27] <jimbo_> nikitis: I've had good success with xtightvncserver in the past.
[21:27] <jpds> nikitis: You can't. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/408417
[21:27] <padhu> why compiz cube top & bottom will not show ubuntu LOGO?, It shows only blak colour
[21:27] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: ignore the switching
[21:27] <coz_> blitzo,  really???
[21:27] <coz_> blitzo,   let me check
[21:27] <phaer> jimbo_: Read the source code. But the easy solution would be to read man xrandr for everything you'll need.
[21:27] <blitzo> coz_ all my posts have been rejected
[21:27] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, yes, but Xorg -configure reports that X is already running
[21:28] <padhu> solid*
[21:28] <jimbo_> phaer: I know enough about xrandr, just want to cheat and use gnome's computed values, which are ideal.
[21:28] <coz_> blitzo,   ok join the #cairo-dock channel   matttbe is there now
[21:28] <sirninja> how can I improve compiz performance if I all I really want from it is the expo plugin?
[21:28] <panax3> how can I togger the file path name on a print in open office?
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: alt + ctrl + f2, sudo service gdm stop, sudo Xorg -configure
[21:28] <panax3> toggel that is
[21:29] <headkase314> padhu: Enable Cube Deformation and Reflection.  You can set the top and bottom images in that plugin
[21:29] <nikitis> jpds: Hey, this has to be supported.  You can't just drop remoting into a linux distribution?  That's part of what Linux is about
[21:29] <lathan> i have a question that I asked earlier, but not sure how to do it. i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[21:30] <jimbo_> phaer: actually I suppose `xrandr -q` shopuld give me everything I need after gnome sets things up, huh?
[21:30] <padhu> headkase314: how can i install it? apt-get ?
[21:30] <aronaliaga> hola
[21:30] <aronaliaga> no me funciona el chat español
[21:30] <aronaliaga> alguien me hecho una mano?
[21:31] <Flannel> aronaliaga: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:31] <aronaliaga> alguien habla español?
[21:31] <ZachK_> !Spanish | aronaliaga
[21:31] <headkase314> padhu: It is in "CompizConfig Settings Manager" in synaptic search for that, I don't know the actual package name, also in synaptic install the extras package too.  Then it all appears under System > Preferences.
[21:31] <aronaliaga> hola
[21:31] <aronaliaga> alguien habla mi idioma?
[21:31] <midar> i, pero no aqui
[21:31] <aronaliaga> no me funciona el chat en español
[21:32] <Cheval_Boiteux> Hi everybody, I'd like to know how to restore the mbr of my windows
[21:32] <aronaliaga> esq no me funciona
[21:32] <guntbert> !es | aronaliaga
[21:32] <headkase314> padhu: Synaptic is under System > Administration
[21:32] <Nname> aronaliaga,
[21:32] <padhu> headkase314: I installed it, ok, i will try it
[21:32] <Nname> entra en #ubuntu-es
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> aronaliaga: Escribe: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:32] <Nname> este canal es solo ingles
[21:32] <aronaliaga> joder
[21:32] <aronaliaga> pues tu hablas
[21:32] <headkase314> padhu: good, every setting for compiz is there!
[21:32] <aronaliaga> muy bien español
[21:32] <aronaliaga> q te cuesta
[21:33] <FloodBot1> aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <Nname> xD
[21:33] <aronaliaga> esq parece racismo
[21:33] <aronaliaga> si no me funciona
[21:33] <Nname> es que en este canal solo se puede hablar en ingles
[21:33] <aronaliaga> q mas
[21:33] <aronaliaga> da'
[21:33] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: Do you mean the MBR install by windows?
[21:33] <FloodBot1> aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <padhu> ok, thanks....
[21:33] <qnikst> hello, can you paste output of commands `uname -i` and `uname -a` please
[21:33] <qnikst> ?
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> aronaliaga: either talk in english or leave
[21:33] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, yes because GRUB deleted it
[21:34] <Cheval_Boiteux> and I can't boot on windows7 any more
[21:34] <lathan> can anyone help with my question?
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> !details | lathan
[21:34] <lathan> i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[21:35] <nikitis> jimbo_ you still here?
[21:35] <lathan> basically, i want to take my sd card's live version of UNR and make it a full install on my internal hdd
[21:35] <ResQue> how can i get the gpg key of GnuPG i tryed to gpp --search, but 100s come up for gpg.
[21:35] <ResQue> i want there public key so i can verify there data
[21:35] <iceroot> !usb | lathan
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> lathan: what changes are you trying to transfer, which program?
[21:36] <iceroot> lathan: hm not that whati thought
[21:36] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: I think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828 may help you
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: verify whose data?
[21:37] <lathan> i want to transfer all installed programs, files, etc.
[21:37] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: GnuGP
[21:37] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i downloaded there gpg app and i want to use the gpg.sig file to check its auth and not currupted
[21:37] <Cheval_Boiteux> Thx r4z0rw0lf, I'll tell you if it works
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: but i can find GnuGP public key
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: what happen ?
[21:38] <qnikst> .çôêå
[21:38] <NativeAngels> has anyone here used ubuntu on a sunfire v100
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: nothing everything is fine, i just following a tutorial on how to use it
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: sorry, which app? link ?
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: www.gnupg.org
[21:39] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i am downloading software from www.gnupg.org and i want to there public key
[21:39] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, it doesn't work
[21:39] <Cheval_Boiteux> "couldn't find package ms-sys"
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: http://www.gnupg.org/signature_key.en.html
[21:40] <lathan> so, can anyone help me with transferring my live-persistent sd contents of Ubuntu netbook remix to my internal hdd as a full install, keeping my files and installing programs on the full install
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> lathan: what changes are you trying to transfer?
[21:41] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: thank you, how did you find it, so i know for next time?
[21:41] <slow-motion> hi
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: two clicks on the website ?
[21:41] <ResQue> did you use a key server or just google there domain, i couldnt see anything on there homepage
[21:41] <lathan> installed programs, files and such, like i've installed chromium, media players, yada yada
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> lathan: you could transfer application settings by copy the .* stuff (like the directories) in .config
[21:43] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i see, guess i just missed the link, what link did you click on the homepage first?
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> lathan: i think (and i could be wrong) that the persistence file uses unionfs and so merging it completely is rather very tricky
[21:44] <cablop> how can i reset the keyring?
[21:44] <cablop> it said me one day that the pwd changed and now asks my password all the time :(
[21:44] <shurane> is ~/.bash_login called when you log in?
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: click on "integrity check" and then in "using gpg" there's a link for "signing key" but it's kinda ambiguous
[21:45] <cablop> i don't know
[21:45] <cablop> w
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> cablop: did you change your user password?
[21:45] <cablop> yes i did
[21:45] <lathan> so, there's no way to fully install UNR with the contents of my current live-persistent version of UNR?
[21:45] <cablop> and it's so annoying for some commands like svn...
[21:46] <cablop> ilovefairuz: yes, i did
[21:46] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i see, yes i even read that page to get started and missed it, guess it kind of defeats the point getting the key from the same site you download from but i am only testing it
[21:46] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: thanks
[21:46] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: try installing msys from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ms-sys
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> cablop: http://www.48da.com/2010/01/19/reset-gnome-keyring-password-on-ubuntu.html
[21:47] <grubtrouble> hi, is there a safe way to update grub/ update linux kernel?  i keep getting an unbootable system :(
[21:47] <cablop> thanks ilovefairuz
[21:47] <grubtrouble> i have a double boot windows/ ubuntu but im scared to update
[21:47] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, when I try to repair the boot of windows with its DVD, the OS isn't recognize. So I can't try commands like "Bootrec.exe /Fixmbr". You understand ?
[21:48] <mcnellis> How can I create a link that will go to the actual link's final path?
[21:48] <guntbert> cablop: don't use sudo passwd ... to change the password, instead use the "me" menu, that way the keyring password should stay in sync
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: boot livecd and open a terminal: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[21:48] <n0pz> Having an issue, desktop effects say they cannot enable. I tried activating proprietary drivers but it says, diffrent version of this recommended driver is in use. Lets me activate but then i restart to blinking cursor and have to recover mode reset Xorg.conf.
[21:48] <High_Priest> scroll fixed :)
[21:48] <andrewax> hi
[21:49] <andrewax> That's issue with caps lock was really a bug
[21:49] <lathan> anyone?
[21:49] <cablop> guntbert: where's that me menu?
[21:49] <edbian> n0pz, Check out the compiz check script! http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[21:49] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, http://pastebin.com/Pf0VFyUd
[21:49] <mcnellis> e.g. I have my ~/Documents folder link to ~/Dropbox/Documents but I'd like ~/Documents to essentially redirect to ~/Dropbox/Documents (so my right click menu has the Dropbox features)
[21:49] <n0pz> When i go to nvidia settings it says you are not currently using a nvidia driver please use Xorg -Nvidia to create Xorg.conf then i do it and restart to same blinking cursor/login.
[21:49] <n0pz> edbian okay will do. :)
[21:50] <edbian> n0pz, It's very helpful :)
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: you have two gnu/linux installations? which one is the most recent version ?
[21:50] <cablop> mcnellis: maybe thtough a hardlink
[21:50] <guntbert> cablop: in the right upper corner you find your user name , click on that and select the first entry
[21:50] <andrewax> does mouse works in screen in your Ubuntu installation?
[21:50] <andrewax> In X.Org, it works if I type TERM=xterm
[21:51] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: Yeah I understand, What exactly is wrong with your system? did you install GRUB over the original MBR?
[21:51] <andrewax> but in console, with gpm, not
[21:51] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, i had an ubuntu installed from windows.. but during update it became unbootable.. so i reinstalled froma livecd this time
[21:51] <ilovefairuz> mcnellis:  doesn't work this way
[21:51] <n0pz> edbian I dled and ran it, it said more than one graphics chip detected. Cannot handle that. Aborted.
[21:51] <cablop> guntbert: ah! i've never realized it as my me menu... i thopught that was just an ubuntu one thing
[21:51] <edbian> n0pz, Do you have more than one graphics card installed or something?
[21:51] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: so which one has ubuntu? sd5 or sd7?
[21:51] <andrewax> ilovefairus: do you installed ubuntu with wubi?
[21:52] <n0pz> Its a laptop and I believe it has both Intel & Nvidia graphics. One for saving power and one to run for high performance.
[21:52] <Utrinqueparatus> why doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> andrewax: not at all
[21:52] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, /dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> andrewax: but why ?
[21:52] <surfereddie> Enter text here...hello all
[21:52] <edbian> andrewax, It is possible to install using wubi but that is not a normal install.  The proper way is to use a live CD and create a new partition(s) for ubuntu.
[21:52] <edbian> n0pz, MM sounds very tricky.  I'm not sure what to do.  Never worked with anything like that before!
[21:53] <grubtrouble> i had a wubi too that went wrong :(
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: ok type, in a terminal: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: I know what, if you install Ubuntu inside windows with wubi
[21:53] <surfereddie> anybody using NX server?
[21:53] <edbian> surfereddie, Hi
[21:53] <d9500> lathan, does your computer see the persistent-SD card as simply another /dev/sdX device?
[21:53] <n0pz> edbian That blows. =( lol. Thanks anyways. =)
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: and Ubuntu doesnot boots anymore
[21:53] <mcphail> surfereddie: occasionally
[21:53] <edbian> n0pz, Good luck. Make a forum post. !forums
[21:53] <guntbert> cablop: :-), you can change your password from CLI too -- just type passwd (don't use sudo for this)
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: a simple chkdsk in windows ca solve this problem
[21:53] <edbian> !forums
[21:53] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, it's already mounted. im in it now.. i just fear that when i upgrade grub it will become unbootable again
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: then: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[21:53] <nubix> Hey, someone here who has experience with installing the 10.04 version from an usb drive? I got some trouble because the installation says its not possible to determine the codename for the release.
[21:54] <nubix> it's the alternate install
[21:54] <andrewax> ilovefairus: but if Ubuntu is phisically installed, you can try a fsck or reinstall grub
[21:54] <grubtrouble> im pretty sure updating grub will make it unbootable, since it's in such a weird state now :(
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: make what unbootable?
[21:55] <grubtrouble> my computer
[21:55] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: if ubuntu is installed correctly on sda7, then it will work just fine
[21:55] <mcnellis> cablop: hard link not allowed for a directory it seems. ilovefairuz so it's impossible to get the original path?
[21:55] <surfereddie> anybody know the command to exit the text editor ie.  :sudo ti /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:55] <magicianlord> sda7? why do you have 7 partitions
[21:55] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble:  (and assuming you did BOTH commands)
[21:55] <grubtrouble> i already spend 2 days getting it back to this state
[21:55] <nikitis> cd #gnome
[21:56] <andrewax> surfereddie what text editor?
[21:56] <surfereddie> when you do "sudo ti"
[21:56] <grubtrouble> if i run the update manager and it upgrades grub and kernel, how can i be sure it wont be in a nonbootable state again?
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> mcnellis: the extra features are only for that special directory
[21:56] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?
[21:56] <erUSUL> surfereddie: vi ? press ":q" then enter
[21:56] <r4z0rw0lf> #cbase
[21:56] <andrewax> i never hear about ti
[21:56] <surfereddie> where in the heck do you find that
[21:56] <andrewax> in vi you can type :q!
[21:56] <erUSUL> High_Priest: try; if something depends on it apt will tell you
[21:57] <High_Priest> erUSUL, thanks
[21:57] <mcnellis> ilovefairuz: yes I know, that's why I want to get redirected to the special directory lol
[21:57] <surfereddie> thanks both of you
[21:57] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: to what state? if ubuntu is booting fine now, then what is your problem ?
[21:57] <erUSUL> surfereddie: if you want to save changes you have to do ":wq"
[21:57] <Tall> can you help-me?
[21:57] <erUSUL> surfereddie: in the future use nano. is easier.
[21:57] <joona> Tall: What's your problem?
[21:57] <Tall> channel in Portugueses is #Ubuntu_BR?
[21:57] <grubtrouble> my problem is , when grub updates, it runs scripts and overwrites things... making it unbootable... andi have to spend another 2 days getting it back in order :(\
[21:58] <surfereddie> I'm just trying to get NX server running so I can practice without haveing to switch monitors and keyboards
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> Tall: ubuntu-br
[21:58] <andrewax> surfereddie vi can be very hard for beginners. Neither I dominate it
[21:58] <lathan> so, can anyone tell me what I would need to do in this situation? I have a 2 GB SD card with a Live-Persistent version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 on it. Now, I want to install this on my internal HDD, but I want to transfer all the stuff from my SD version to the full install (as i've installed programs, made changes to the OS, etc.). I would just copy the SD to the HDD completely, but the SD is a "live" version. any ideas anyone?
[21:58] <Tall> great
[21:58] <andrewax> surfereddie you can try nano or mcedit what are more friendly
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: then use the commands i've given you
[21:59] <surfereddie> I nano in the software center?
[21:59] <andrewax> nano alread come installed ;)
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> surfereddie: yes it is
[21:59] <erUSUL> surfereddie: is installed by default
[21:59] <andrewax> yes
[21:59] <surfereddie> andreway, do you use NX server?
[21:59] <andrewax> just type nano
[21:59] <andrewax> no
[21:59] <|grzesag|> Hi I need to set up ssl over http using virtual host?
[21:59] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, what guarantee do i have grub is in an ok state after running that?
[21:59] <andrewax> there is no nano available?
[21:59] <grubtrouble> how can i tell ?
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> !who | andrewax
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> !who | grubtrouble
[22:00] <magicianlord> lathan: copy your home directory files, but reinstall the apps
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: tell what?
[22:00] <lathan> there's no way to avoid reinstalling everything?
[22:00] <magicianlord> !bacon
[22:00] <d9500> lathan, see my earlier message. if the machine sees it as another standard disk drive (that is, a /dev/sdX device) then you may be able to clone it.
[22:00] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, tell me it will give me a boot menu at bootup in stead of a prompt that i dont undersatnd
[22:00] <magicianlord> youhave to write the image
[22:01] <magicianlord> to copy all
[22:01] <Tall> BrOffice waht wireter pps?
[22:01] <lathan> yeah, someone mentioned !clone, but i don't know what that means
[22:01] <magicianlord> you'd have to use clonezilla or something similar
[22:01] <d9500> lathan, are you in the live-persistent sd session now?
[22:01] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 , there you go, you're on your own from now
[22:01] <lathan> i am
[22:01] <Guest81480> !tab
[22:01] <grubtrouble> :(
[22:01] <lathan> i'm booting up gparted right now
[22:02] <frenchy> is there a way to get HD resolutions for an nvidia card without an xorg.conf?
[22:02] <lathan> my internal HDD is sda and my live-persistent sd is sdc
[22:02] <grubtrouble> dont things like grub get tested before they put an update in the update manager? :/  sorry but i have 0 faith left in it running well
[22:03] <d9500> ok, then the machine sees it as a /dev/sdX device, so you're good. you should, I think (never tried it) be able to use clonezilla in disk-to disk mode to clone the SD t a hard drive.
[22:03] <c3l> frenchy: the nvidia controll center doesnt wkrk?
[22:03] <lathan> would that make the HDD version a live install though? and not a full-install?
[22:03] <irvken> what does it mean if you have agreen dot in front of your nick in the nicklist in xchat
[22:03] <gotroot> Hello, I have a Ubuntu Server.  I have installed IRC-Hybrid, it has compiled and installed fine.  However I can't connect to 127.0.0.1.  How come?
[22:04] <surfereddie> mcphail, you just helping out in here?
[22:04] <mcphail> surfereddie: just lurking tbh
[22:04] <Hilikus> gotroot: are you sure the server's running?
[22:04] <d9500> lathan, is the drive itself a live-only? or totally persistent, so that if you install in app when running ubuntu off the SD, then reboot, the app is still there?
[22:04] <mcphail> surfereddie: i was looking out an nxserver howto i wrote a while ago...
[22:04] <gotroot> Hilikus, how do I double check?
[22:04] <nathanhelp> have anyone upgraded from 9:10 to 10.04 overtop of their previous installation? I've heard some people only like installing each version, from a clean install. What are the pro's and cons to each method?
[22:04] <guntbert> irvken: you are op in that channel
[22:05] <Hilikus> gotroot: ps aux | grep serverName
[22:05] <surfereddie> mcphail - thanks I've been trying to figure it out for days
[22:05] <lathan> yes, it is persistent, that is, if i install something, it is still on my SD when i reboot. however, when ubuntu starts up i still click "test ubuntu" and i want to avoid this with a full install
[22:05] <magicianlord> nathanhelp: quicker to do fresh intall and less conflict.
[22:05] <lathan> but at the same time, i want to keep the changes I made to my SD when I install UNR fully to my HDD
[22:05] <nathanhelp> magicianlord :howso?
[22:05] <iksf> fresh installs never go wrong really, and get fresh new better performance etc
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> nathanhelp: clean install will likely give you a lot less problems, upgrade will keep all your existing settings intact, you can copy your home directory though
[22:06] <surfereddie> mcphail - i'd settle for local connection just so I don't have to switch monitor and keyboard
[22:06] <gotroot> Hilikus, I never set a servername.  I can't find the ircd.conf anywhere.  However, from the looks of ps aux, the server isn't running
[22:06] <mcphail> surfereddie: http://pastebin.com/RB4knjuM - it is a bit out of date as you'll see, but uses google's nx stuff
[22:06] <Hilikus> nathanhelp: i usually upgrade. most of the times i have no problems. the advtanges is that i highly customize everything so a fresh install needs customization all over again
[22:06] <Hilikus> gotroot: servername i mean the name of the process
[22:06] <surfereddie> mcphail - have you ever done it?  I'd hate to switch to another product.
[22:06] <nathanhelp> Hilikus, yes that's where I'm leaning too. (customisation)
[22:06] <gotroot> gotroot    380  0.0  0.0   3320   792 pts/1    S+   22:06   0:00 grep --color=auto irc
[22:07] <mcphail> surfereddie: see my paste - that's how i did it
[22:07] <gotroot> I think that's the server?
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: if the process is called IRC-daemon then to grep IRC-daemon
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: no, that's the grep command
[22:07] <mcphail> surfereddie: i'm not using it at present
[22:07] <z0r0> what are alternative methods for installing ubuntu? Is there a way to run it on the same filesystem as my winxp?
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> gotroot: no, that's 'grep' itself
[22:07] <nathanhelp> is there a way to quickly "copy" customisations onto a new fresh install?
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: look at the last column
[22:07] <gotroot> Ahh, sorry :)
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> !install | z0r0
[22:07] <gotroot> Hilikus:  I don't think it's running.
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot:  are you sure the server has irc in its name?
[22:08] <ResQue> goodbye all
[22:08] <lathan> where did my helper go? :-p
[22:08] <ilovefairuz> z0r0: you're probably looking for the wubi method
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot: if it's not running you need to start it using "service"
[22:08] <d9500> lathan, cloning will keep the changes, but i'm guessing that there's something on the persistent sd, some kind of script or program that runs at boot, that generates that "try ubuntu" screen, so clozing wouldn't remove it
[22:08] <d9500> cloning*
[22:08] <gotroot> I'm not sure, I downloaded the server from irc-hybrid.com, done ./configure then sudo make && sudo make install
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot: sudo service irc_whatever start
[22:08] <z0r0> ilovefairuz: Thanks : )
[22:08] <hiexpo> !wubi > z0r0
[22:09] <Hilikus> gotroot: why are you compiling it?? why not get it from the repos?
[22:09] <gotroot> Hilikus: I followed the tutorial on the ubuntu website.
[22:09] <Hilikus> gotroot: what's the name of the server
[22:09] <jrib> gotroot: where exactly?
[22:09] <erUSUL> !wubi > z0r0
[22:09] <c3l> gotroot: when installing programs, allways try the repos first
[22:09] <IdleOne> gotroot: I suggest you read the irc-hybrid documentation
[22:09] <magicianlord> hmm
[22:09] <frenchy> c3l, it doesnt have HD resolutions
[22:10] <surfereddie> mcphail - whoa that looks good.  but the problem I think is something in my server authorization.  I'm to much of a networking noob
[22:10] <erUSUL> z0r0: ooops sorry; did not see the previous one
[22:10] <hiexpo> erUSUL,  ^
[22:10] <surfereddie> mcphail- thanks again peace
[22:10] <lathan> so, what's the difference between full install and live-persistent, aside from the prompt to try/install ubuntu? i tried to do a full install to the 2GB SD, but it said I needed 2.4 GB free and my SD is only 2GB, so somehow the live-persistent, is only 700MB allowing for 1.3 GB of persistence. What makes the full-install so much bigger?
[22:10] <gotroot> Hilikus, jrib, c31, IdleOne:  I read it from the tutorial here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[22:10] <z0r0> erUSUL: no prob.
[22:10] <c3l> frenchy: thats strange, it should have all available resolutions. are you sure your GPU can handle it?
[22:10] <Hilikus> gotroot: use the first method they mentioned, not the second one
[22:10] <IdleOne> gotroot: try /server localhost
[22:11] <hiexpo> live persistant is on an usbdrive   > while a full instakk is on harddrive os
[22:11] <hiexpo> ^install
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  its a trade off of speed and ram ussage.
[22:11] <c3l> lathan: I guess the full one contains all packages unpoacked etc, go for the smaller one if you just want to install
[22:11] <gotroot> IdleOne: It says unable to connect.
[22:11] <Hilikus> gotroot: sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid
[22:11] <gotroot> Hilikus: I will try that now.  Thankyou.
[22:11] <frenchy> c3l, yes it works fine on windows, its going to a rear projection HDTV throught the s-video out
[22:11] <IdleOne> gotroot: then the server is not running
[22:11] <c3l> lathan: it contains all packages, or at least downloads them if any is missing after the install is complete
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  also if you ever try to 'update/upgrade' a live-persis. setup. You will fill up that 1.3gb real real fast
[22:12] <c3l> frenchy: can svideo take hd?
[22:12] <gotroot> Hilikus: Thankyou! :) It works!
[22:12] <c3l> frenchy: im sorry, I dont know much about graphics
[22:12] <lathan> okay, so i guess i will just start over with a full install and just install things again as i need them
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Svideo can not do 'HD' video last i checked. :)
[22:12] <Hilikus> gotroot: if you install from source you don't get all the post-installation configuration and you won't be notified of updates
[22:12] <anon_> In Nautilus, how do I move the tabs to the top?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  a full install may not fit on a 2gb flash. I would suggest a 4 to 8gb at a min
[22:13] <Hilikus> gotroot: always go for packaged installations
[22:13] <gotroot> Hilikus: Thankyou, I will always try the repo's first from now on :)
[22:13] <lathan> Dr_Willis: yeah, my netbook HDD has a 4 GB partition, i will do a full install on that
[22:13] <hiexpo> fulll install is best on an 8 gig
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  a  Hute 4gb! :0 I got 5+GB in just wallpaper and fonts. :)
[22:14] <c3l> gotroot: I must ask, why do you want to run your own irc server? there are pleny of servers, a channel or two would suffice
[22:14] <d9500> lathan, yes, what Dr_Willis said. That's not really a lot of space. You may also want to try something like Lubuntu (base ubuntu install but w/ LXDE instead of Gnome) which is a little smaller
[22:14] <wolfric> can someone check this out for me... go cat /bin/rmdir and ctrl + z half way through and tell me what their terminal looks like
[22:14] <lathan> unfortunately, the OS that comes with an EEEPC 901 is horrible. and i don't have many options with the way they used 2 separate drives...
[22:15] <wolfric> it seems to completely screw up the font. if i just rerun the command it fixes it but until then (even logging in and out) it stays all screwed up
[22:15] <erUSUL> wolfric: that's spected
[22:15] <lathan> how do i refer to someone in the chat (i'm using pidgin)?
[22:15] <wolfric> why does it happen?
[22:15] <c3l> lathan: or just skip the whole DE, use some slim wm and youre fine (if youre used to do some tinkering on your own to make things appear as you want)
[22:16] <wolfric> lathan: usually just like this
[22:16] <erUSUL> wolfric: dumping random binary data in a terminal is a secure way to desconfigure it...
[22:16] <lathan> can I click on someone's name or i type it myself?
[22:16] <Hilikus> lathan: most clients have auto completion, type some keys and press tab
[22:16] <hiexpo> lathan,  just like here
[22:16] <wolfric> erusul: could you do anything malicious with it?
[22:16] <erUSUL> wolfric: the binary data has code/char secuences ( scape codes) that reprogram the terminal emulator
[22:17] <lathan> Hilikus: thanks, that worked
[22:17] <hiexpo> ^ = xchat tab
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  use the 'reset' command to reset the terminal back to normal.. and stop catting 'binaries' to the terminal :)
[22:17] <Hilikus> lathan: np
[22:17] <lathan> c3l: what did you mean by skipping the whole DE (?) and use slim wm?
[22:17] <erUSUL> wolfric: you can type "reset" hit enter when that happens ( there is a key combo too iirc )
[22:17] <wolfric> erusul: anyway to prevent it? other than catting binaries :)
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  its printing binary  to the terminal. so its printing escape codes and other special termional codes.
[22:18] <wolfric> i was just curious if they were all compiled or were any shell scripts
[22:18] <gotroot> Hilikus:  Sorry to bother you again, in the ircd.conf it says to encrypt my password using '/usr/bin/mkpasswd' however that doesn't exist on my system...
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  use the 'file' command on a binary.
[22:18] <erUSUL> wolfric: check with "file" first
[22:18] <Hilikus> gotroot: just type that in a terminal and see if ubuntu suggests a package that contains that bin
[22:18] <Hilikus> gotroot: otherwise, google it
[22:19] <gotroot> Hilikus: Tried that, nothing.  Will google.
[22:19] <wolfric> ah thanks @dr_willis @ erusul :)
[22:19] <Hilikus> gotroot: it worked for me
[22:19] <lathan> i guess c3l is gone. So, for my 4 GB partition on my EEEPC 901. would I be better off with UNR or Lubuntu?
[22:19] <Hilikus> gotroot: hilikus@mazinger:~$ mkpasswd
[22:19] <Hilikus> The program 'mkpasswd' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:20] <erUSUL> wolfric: most people do not realize that xterm and its ilk actually are emulating real hardware... (they are colling emulator for a reason )
[22:20] <Hilikus> gotroot: it suggested the right package
[22:20] <c3l> lathan: gnome and KDE are DE (desktop environments) shipped with loads of packages and stuff, if youre short of space you should consider using a lightweight DE as previously stated, or like me for instance. im using xmonad and trayer. thats all I need, and its slim and powerfull :)
[22:21] <c3l> lathan: how familiar are you with linux and so on?
[22:21] <High_Priest> what audio player do you recommend? I was using amarok before while I was on kde but I'd satisfy with some small nice clean player (playlist/controls)
[22:21] <erUSUL> High_Priest: try the default Rhythmbox;
[22:22] <lathan> c3l: uh, not a lot. i can install things, i'm familiar with partitioning, but i don't stray to far from mainstream OSes as they have the most software available
[22:22] <headkase314> High_Priest: Seconded, Rhythmbox - especially with the radio browser addon from the repositories : 1000's of stations!
[22:22] <c3l> lathan: to someone who is familiar with linux and looking for something really lightweight Id suggest archlinux, it doesnt really "just work", it requires some tinkering
[22:22] <c3l> lathan: okay, 4 gig you say. gimme a sec
[22:23] <headkase314> High_Priest: Rhythmbox comes with some radio functionality but the add on is a different one to give many more stations.
[22:23] <nikitis> On modern 10.04, how does one remotely log into a distribution before having to actually log onto gdm?
[22:23] <lathan> c3l: my only problem with less mainstream distros is usually the software that's available. or rather, fewer programs that can be easily installed. (for instance, ubuntu is usually an option when downloading a program).
[22:23] <c3l> lathan: archlinux has it all
[22:24] <c3l> lathan: check gentoo too
[22:24] <lathan> i wanted to try out chromium os, but i don't have a 64-bit to compile the code
[22:24] <lathan> c3l: thanks, i'll check out those two
[22:24] <c3l> or just 'plain' debian. thats what ubuntu is in the core.
[22:26] <karlo> anyone know any program or command (for terminal) which I can see clipboard history ?
[22:27] <c3l> "Damn Small Linux is a very versatile 50MB mini desktop oriented Linux distribution."
[22:27] <lathan> c3l: so will i have to worry about not being able to do something on archlinux that i could easily do on ubuntu? could i use wine for instance?
[22:27] <headkase314> karlo: Check out Pastie -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/pastie-very-simple-clipboard-manager.html
[22:28] <guampa> greets
[22:28] <karlo> headkase314, ty
[22:29] <headkase314> karlo: You're welcome! ;)
[22:29] <c3l> lathan: yeah, all common packages exists in the repos, and alot less common too. the community is really helpful and they have a great wiki where everything can be found. many of my ubuntu probolems and so often have their solution in arch wiki ;)
[22:29] <zeroklone> #topic
[22:29] <zeroklone> join #topic
[22:29] <c3l> and its light!
[22:29] <lathan> c3l: cool, perhaps i'll check it out later
[22:30] <lathan> c3l: how light are we talking?
[22:30] <c3l> lathan: yeah do that, but it expects you to do most of the work, or at least configure it to do it for you :P
[22:31] <guampa> i've searched a lot but to no avail, my logs are full of "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector XYZ", root fs fills up, the vts are unusable. All this is with an audio cd on
[22:31] <guampa> what on earth is it?
[22:32] <janos> some people know if is possible sand command AT^ to modem USB HSDPA UMTS with network manager
[22:32] <hspaans> guampa: if the disc is clean, then or your drive is broken or drm
[22:33] <c3l> guampa: not sure, but sr0 is your cdrom
[22:33] <guampa> it isn't broken, i can read & write discs and this cd isnt drmed
[22:33] <lathan> well, thanks, everyone, for the input. i'll do some review checking and maybe try a lighter distro.
[22:33] <leGally_Mad> hello
[22:34] <hspaans> guampa: a lot of audio disc have drm on them without saying it on the box
[22:35] <guampa> hspaans: this specific disc has a 1% chance of being drmed, i know sounds nonsensical but it's like that
[22:36] <leGally_Mad> i am using ubuntu with wubuilder. can i install lynx on a system and overwrite wubi's folder on root,to get my settings and desktop environment
[22:37] <Sneebs> Hello!
[22:37] <guampa> i'm kind of forced to have a disc in the drive, been 3 o 4 years that ubuntu throws lots of io errors (other kind) if i don't
[22:38] <guampa> and a data  cd wont do as it starts to index or cache something and spins too much
[22:38] <leGally_Mad> anyone can reppy please
[22:39] <mun> hi
[22:39] <Sneebs> Would someone be able to help me with my version of 9.10 semi-crashing the system every time I try to boot from disk?
[22:40] <guampa> these two probs seem to be the last ones i have in my setup, i really wish i could do something about it
[22:40] <mun> does anyone know how to change the default theme for gnome's menu bar? mine's always blue for some reason.
[22:41] <GreenBerry> My friend gave me some Ubuntu disk to try out, but left no instruction on how to use it. Now I can't get my PC to run it.
[22:41] <mun> I meant the bar where 'Applications', 'Places', etc. are
[22:41] <Sneebs> @mun: does this help? http://www.linuxnov.com/replace-default-gnome-menu-bar-with-gnomenu-applet/
[22:41] <Sneebs> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009092300435OSGNSW
[22:41] <Sneebs> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html
[22:42] <Sneebs> @ GreenBerry: what shows up[ when you stick the disk into the drive?
[22:42] <mun> Sneebs, thanks. i'll try that.
[22:42] <Sneebs> I can't make promises, I just googled it.
[22:42] <Sneebs> ;)
[22:42] <GreenBerry> It's a window
[22:43] <guampa> noone with MCP based laptops has had IO errors?
[22:43] <GreenBerry> "Demo and full installation", "Install inside Windows", and "Learn More"
[22:43] <Sneebs> @GreenBerry: so, you stick the disk into the drive, a window pops up (I assume you're running this on a microsofy/windows system
[22:43] <GreenBerry> I am running Windows XP
[22:44] <Sneebs> Lucky man! I'm running Vista, my main reason for making me want to try linux
[22:44] <Sneebs> Go to My Computer, right clikc on your CD rom drive (you know where that is?) and click explore
[22:44] <excitatory> so I have an hp mini 210 netbook, and i've been following forum posts on how to enable some of the multitouch features of the trackpad.. everything is great except i can't click and drag, or drag and highlight.. any ideas?
[22:44] <GreenBerry> K
[22:45] <Sneebs> I'm gonna assume no one can help me with my quandary, then?
[22:46] <muddtusk> I removed my connection, clock, and shutdown/logout items from a panel.  I restored the clock, but I don't see an option to restore the connection and shutdown button (the shutdown button is offered, but doesn't look the same or have options to customize it).
[22:46] <GreenBerry> Alright, It popped up a bunch of folders and Files
[22:46] <edbian> Sneebs, What is a semi crash?  What disk, the hdd or the cd ??
[22:47] <GreenBerry> I'm unsure what to do with this CD
[22:47] <Sneebs> Semi-crash is a term I'm just parroting from another source. it means that when I try loading the thing from disk, the screeen blinks on & off, the keyboards are sluggishly responsive
[22:47] <morpf> hello everyone
[22:47] <GreenBerry> Lol, that's my pc half the time xD
[22:47] <Sneebs> i.e. keystrokes take upwards of minutes to show up
[22:48] <Sneebs> @greenberry: Okay, then
[22:48] <leGally_Mad> can some one hlep me out please
[22:48] <Sneebs> Could you name any .exe files you see
[22:48] <trism> muddtusk: the network applet shows up in the Notification Area, and the shutdown/logout items are in Indicator Applet Session
[22:48] <edbian> Sneebs, This from the CD or the hdd ??
[22:48] <Sneebs> ie.e their names
[22:48] <Sneebs> \This is from Cd, sorrt
[22:48] <Sneebs> &sorry
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s adante
[22:48] <FloodBot1> Ackbar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s adante adobe
[22:49] <progrock> anyone got a prefered CHM viewer for gnome?
[22:49] <Sneebs> So, Green, and .exe files named
[22:49] <Sneebs> ?
[22:49] <GreenBerry> The only .exe is Umenu
[22:49] <muddtusk> Ah, cheers trism.
[22:49] <AaronM> progrock chmsee
[22:49] <progrock> AaronM: thank you
[22:49] <morpf> please help. trying to install ubuntu 10.4 lts alternate amd64 on an hq compaq 6720s i allways get a black screen after choosing install in the menu. vga=788 and fb=false do not solve the problem. any suggestions?
[22:50] <gbillings> I installed UNR on Ubuntu Desktop and now when ever i maximize a proram the window control bar is hidden. How do i fix this?
[22:50] <Sneebs> HmmmOkay, Green. Anyrhing else?
[22:50] <gbillings> morpf, try here http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/107839-ubuntu-loads-then-goes-blank-screen-bahhh.html
[22:51] <GreenBerry> That's the only .exe
[22:51] <scot> Hey, has USB support in Virtualbox been shutoff in the ubuntu packages?
[22:51] <mroziak> #Mitril
[22:51] <morpf> life cd works without a glitch...
[22:51] <iceroot> scot: yes
[22:51] <morpf> only alternate won't do
[22:51] <Sneebs> What about i other non.exe files
[22:51] <trism> scot: not shut off, not included, you need the proprietary version from the virtualbox website
[22:51] <tensorpudding> scot: The USB support isn't included in the OSE is it?
[22:51] <Sneebs> No files called Readme?
[22:51] <iceroot> scot: only the non-free version has usb support
[22:51] <scot> gah
[22:52] <gbillings> morpf, alright. what is the resolution of your monitor?
[22:52] <GreenBerry> There is not a readme, no.
[22:52] <Sneebs> Okay, Green
[22:52] <scot> Why was it disabled, anyone know?
[22:52] <iceroot> scot: it was never enabled
[22:52] <Sneebs> @gbillings: I think this is the problem I had too
[22:52] <iceroot> scot: #vbox for questions like that
[22:52] <daniel_tree> I have an acer 5930g...ubuntu 10.04..and I am experiencing the same problem as this guys...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9660320
[22:53] <morpf> 1280 x 800
[22:53] <scot> iceroot, well I got it from Ubuntu so...ok, i'll ask over there
[22:53] <Sneebs> Green:: ry the demo & install button on the window which came up.
[22:53] <gbillings> Sneebs: do you know of a solution? i am preparing for a fresh reinstall right now.
[22:53] <GreenBerry> K
[22:53] <uRock> scot, probably a ubuntu dependency issue
[22:53] <GreenBerry> It says I need to reboot my machine
[22:53] <iceroot> scot: there was never a usb-version in the ubuntu-repos
[22:53] <Sneebs> @gbillingsL that's why I came here. I don't know of a solution
[22:53] <Sneebs> Wiat a sec green
[22:54] <Sneebs> Wait..... mrof, this uis version 10.X, right
[22:54] <Sneebs> ?
[22:54] <scot> iceroot, well I never used Vbox from the repositories before, I always got it direct from vbox, I thought it would be better to have managed version
[22:54] <scot> I guess I was wrong
[22:54] <Sneebs> Green, are you using the same comuter to chat with us as you are using to install linux?
[22:54] <iceroot> scot: use the vbox-repo
[22:54] <gbillings> scot: i believe it is the same version in the repo as from the site. i think.
[22:55] <iceroot> gbillings: no
[22:55] <GreenBerry> Yes, I am
[22:55] <uRock> scot, I always load the version from the oracle site
[22:55] <iceroot> gbillings: repo = free, website = nonfree
[22:55] <hspaans> scot: it is a license issue on the side of Sun / Oracle
[22:55] <morpf> gbillings, (forgot to highlight) my resulution is 1280 x 800
[22:55] <Sneebs> Okay, green. This may get odd
[22:55] <gbillings> iceroot: thank you. many thanks haha
[22:55] <Sneebs> @billings & Morpf: When you reboot, select F4 once the INSTALL UBUNTU screen shows up. Then select Safe mod
[22:55] <GreenBerry> Odd how? Dancing monkeys odd?
[22:56] <gbillings> Sneebs: i will try that later. thank you
[22:56] <Sneebs> Walk home alone odd. Nothing necessarily dangerous, but uncomfortable for neophytes
[22:56] <Sneebs> Idieally, you should be able to install. If not
[22:57] <daniel_tree> Typing freezes the screen temporarily :(
[22:57] <scot> wait so the version from ther vbox repo also hasn't USB support?
[22:57] <Sneebs> @gbillings: you nshould be able to install. Otehrwise, you'll run into the rpoblem I get when the machine starts to load, then the text of the command line starts blinking at siezure pace and keystrokes take minutes to register
[22:57] <morpf> gbillings, unfortunately the alternate cd doesn't have this option
[22:57] <GreenBerry> Lol, I just wanted to get support because I know absolutely nothing about Ubuntu <.<
[22:57] <scot> so maybe I need the tarball instead?
[22:57] <Sneebs> @Gtreen
[22:57] <Sneebs> Not big deal. You'll just have to go on your own without a chat.
[22:57] <GreenBerry> Okok
[22:57] <GreenBerry> I'll come back if there's a problem
[22:57] <Sneebs> Sorry, multitasking. Even with caffeinen & ADHD, I still haven't mastered it
[22:58] <Sneebs> Wait, Green
[22:58] <Sneebs> I'll explain
[22:58] <LymeRa1n> Sneebs, what are you talking about. I am slighlty confused. I am havaing a problem as my window control bar is hidden when maximized.
[22:58] <coz_> GreenBerry,  what sort of things would you like to know ?
[22:58] <hspaans> scot: correct, sun/oracle don't have any rights to the usb-code in vbox
[22:58] <|grzesag|> Hi can anyone here help me with ssl and virtual host settings please?
[22:58] <GreenBerry> Anything, really
[22:58] <Sneebs> Leave @lyme: I don;t beleive I was speaking to you or was even aware of your problem. Sorry to confuse you! I was speaking to gbillings & morfph
[22:59] <Sneebs> @greenBerry: Try this
[22:59] <GreenBerry> I know nothing about Ubuntu <.<
[22:59] <trism> scot: no, the version is the vbox repo has everything (usb, vrdp, etc)
[22:59] <Sneebs> Put CD in drivbe
[22:59] <guampa> is it okay to create /etc/modprobe.d/options if it doesn't exist? will it be recongnized or do i have to put options somewhere else?
[22:59] <coz_> |grzesag|,  I cant    but if no one can here you may want to try ##linux channel as well
[22:59] <Sneebs> Press Demo and Install
[22:59] <LymeRa1n> Sneebs, i am gbillings. changed my name
[22:59] <trism> scot: it is added automatically when you install the deb from their site
[22:59] <Sneebs> @Lyme: Oh, sorry
[22:59] <wolfric> anyone know of any good command line text to voice tools?
[22:59] <|grzesag|> coz_: thanks I will try
[22:59] <GreenBerry> K
[23:00] <coz_> GreenBerry,  ok  well...first thing to do is to  use it daily....and since you already know linux can do just about anything...and if somthing comes up and you say..."Wait...I would like to do this "   and you dont know how then ask a question....
[23:00] <GreenBerry> It pops up asking if I want to reboot, reboot now, or reboot. Lol.
[23:00] <Sneebs> @Lyme:I was trying  to help MORPH,. I thought you knew your stuff & were an advisor
[23:00] <Sneebs> Okay, Greenberry, once you click reeboot (reboot now, etc. I think the programmers here were having a lark)
[23:00] <coz_> GreenBerry,  did you just install a driver?
[23:00] <GreenBerry> No.
[23:00] <daniel_tree> can someone pls take a look at this ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9660320..I have the same problem
[23:01] <Sneebs> Green: THe machine will reboot, and you should have a thing come up which says PICK YOUR LANGUAGE, then DO YOU WANT TO: (Install UBUNTU Ver Whatever), Boot from disk, etc
[23:01] <Valer> Hi everybody I got a HUGE PROBLEM
[23:01] <Sneebs> Green: Try Boot From Disk
[23:02] <trism> scot: actually, no sorry, you need to add the repo manually
[23:02] <Sneebs> Then you SHOULD do through a qucik install (it will store the OS on your computer's RAM) and you'll be able to get a feel for it
[23:02] <Valer> I made a DOS command and my partition can't be read by ubuntu
[23:02] <coz_> Valer,  spit it out :)
[23:02] <LymeRa1n> Sneebs, i think we are all confused. OK. i know my stuff and am an experienced ubuntu user and can help people with numerous as i have my fair share of problems. I recenly tried to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix along side Ubuntu Desktop and it damaged my current installation. That was the problem. I very rarely ask question on here put frequently answer them. Thank you.
[23:02] <tensorpudding> Valer: what command
[23:02] <coz_> Valer,  ooooo
[23:02] <Valer> this command is fdisk /mbr
[23:02] <fridgerator> haha
[23:03] <coz_> mm I dont think its' funny
[23:03] <tensorpudding> is that the command which installs something to the MBR
[23:03] <guampa> where do i put options for modules? seems like /etc/modprobe.d/options isnt used anymore in lucid
[23:03] <fridgerator> fdisk /mbr wouldnt make it so ubuntu couldnt read the drive
[23:03] <nqe> how to check why an usb boot 10.04 does not boot from 1 system but does from the other?
[23:03] <Sneebs> Oh, I see Lyme! Sorry! I'm a neophyte, but thin I can advise some folks on afew basic things. Your experience supercedes mine, but I feel I ought to contrubute rather than just come here asking for help
[23:04] <Sneebs> @Green: it should also tell you what version of Ubuntu you're using at some point, which will help you amazingly
[23:04] <LymeRa1n> Sneebs: its fine. everybody gets confused every now and then. it is completley understandable.
[23:05] <Sneebs> Glad we got that cleared up. Sorry, I can't help you LymeRa1n!
[23:06] <daniel_tree> #linux
[23:08] <scot> trism, yeah I knew about the repos....I am not a complete newb :))
[23:09] <scot> thanks for your help BTW
[23:09] <mccartney> hello
[23:10] <scot> I think I got it all running again...I was just shocked when I couldn't find USB support I knew used to be there
[23:10] <scot> Guess that happens when you switch sources for your sourses
[23:10] <mccartney> i dont now
[23:11] <mccartney> im
[23:11] <scot> mccartney, who are you talking to ? :)
[23:12] <mccartney> i dont now
[23:12] <mccartney> im not speak english jaja
[23:13] <scot> Ok thanks guys got USB working with the version from the oracle repo
[23:13] <scot> peace
[23:13] <mccartney> scot are you looser??
[23:13] <Q_Continuum> 10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?
[23:14] <fuentesjr> anyone know how to find all files of type jpg or gif in all the subdirectories?
[23:14] <fuentesjr> i was thinking something like: find . -name "*.(jpg|gif)"
[23:15] <Raptors>  Hey guys
[23:15] <mccartney> im think the english is very hard
[23:15] <Raptors> Does anyone know a good SSH tunnel application for linux?
[23:15] <mccartney> and you???
[23:15] <rmz_> Hm, my left mouse button just stopped working when clicking on menu items in apps :-(
[23:15] <mccartney> loooooooser
[23:15] <kerebrus> Anyone know of a good on the desktop net monitor?
[23:15] <mccartney> ¡¡¡
[23:16] <wolfric> raptors:openssh?
[23:16] <rmz_> hm, left button click only (and always) moves windows
[23:16] <rmz_> weird
[23:16] <Jettsang> ssh tunnel ? u mns ssh -d xxx ?
[23:16] <mccartney> ssh tunel ??
[23:16] <rmz_> weird and annoying ;(
[23:16] <Jettsang> just use ssh and tunnel
[23:16] <mccartney> is there ??
[23:16] <edbian> kerebrus, conky would work but is probably overkill.  There are panel applets that do that and the screenlets package has widgets.
[23:17] <kerebrus> edbian conky is a huge pain for me
[23:17] <edbian> kerebrus, It can be that way :)
[23:17] <mccartney> debian is pain for you?
[23:17] <edbian> kerebrus, Try the panel applets or the screenlets.
[23:17] <edbian> mccartney, Debian is a joy for me :)
[23:17] <mccartney> debian is for loosers
[23:17] <kerebrus> edbian are they light?
[23:18] <edbian> kerebrus, The applets are lighter than the widgets. The widgets are not heavy.
[23:18] <mccartney> how are you to make a sample test on ....
[23:18] <mccartney> on..
[23:19] <mccartney> how speak  there
[23:19] <edbian> kerebrus, Of course that's opinion...
[23:19] <mccartney> of curse is veri nice to use linux
[23:20] <mccartney> aqui no español
[23:20] <edbian> mccartney, I realize you don't speak english well.  Do you have a support question??
[23:21] <kostkon> !es | mccartney
[23:21] <miqueiascordeiro> ola
[23:21] <kerebrus> edbian is there a apt package for applets?
[23:21] <mccartney> aqui fuchi español
[23:21] <edbian> kerebrus, screenlets
[23:22] <edbian> kerebrus, and gdesklets  but screenlets are much prettier
[23:22] <mccartney> i tried to speak
[23:22] <mccartney> sorry
[23:22] <kerebrus> edbian more concerned with functionality then prettyness
[23:23] <mccartney> because you to goo ??
[23:23] <mccartney> dont goo
[23:23] <mccartney> please please
[23:23] <edbian> kerebrus, Try them both.  screenlets is usually preferred.
[23:23] <rmz_> hm, the value of "ctrl" seems to be inverted. When it is pressed it is assumed not to be pressed, otherwise it assumed to be pressed. Weird.
[23:23] <kerebrus> edbian ok thanks
[23:24] <mccartney> is funny the  english if im not know
[23:24] <talntid> Anyone know if there is a way, to automatically delete the oldest files in a directory, if the filesystem begins to fill up?
[23:25] <edbian> talntid, Short of writing your own program no.
[23:25] <edbian> talntid, that is "NO" I don't know of any way.
[23:25] <mccartney> yo to understanding to me please
[23:25] <talntid> edein, right :) I understood
[23:25] <edbian> mccartney, Please stop talking if you don't have a support question.
[23:25] <mccartney> because
[23:26] <mccartney> please
[23:26] <mccartney> you are my friend
[23:26] <mccartney> ok??
[23:26] <mccartney> the americans are the most friends
[23:26] <edbian> What should I do?  I don't want to "<bang>ops"
[23:27] <mccartney> the english is veri hard to tried to speak in the start
[23:28] <edbian> mccartney, Go to the channel you do speak.
[23:28] <edbian> !es
[23:28] <mccartney> but you edbian are my friend american
[23:29] <sparky> any one know how to save an internet axis code one ubuntu 10.4 64bit
[23:29] <edbian> sparky, What is an internet axis code?
[23:29] <mccartney> ubuntu is hard to use
[23:29] <mccartney> but you use windows???
[23:29] <sparky> like off a router for wirless internet
[23:29] <mccartney> its better
[23:29] <edbian> sparky, OOoo, wireless access code
[23:30] <edbian> sparky, Doesn't the applet save it for you?
[23:30] <sparky> edbian: no i have had to put it in every time i connect to it
[23:30] <edbian> sparky, Look at the keyring manager.
[23:30] <quaquaquaqua> I set a keyboard shortcut to the command 'nautilus /home/joe/Dropbox/', and it doesn't seem to be working
[23:31] <mccartney> are you use the wifislax or wifiway???
[23:31] <mccartney> is funny
[23:31] <edbian> !ops mccartney
[23:31] <sparky> edbian; under passwords and encription keys?
[23:32] <edbian> sparky, Ummm, yes?  I'm not on an ubuntu machine right now :/
[23:32] <mccartney> im crac the wep of the next
[23:32] <mccartney> ja
[23:32] <sparky> ebdian; ok now what do i do
[23:32] <mccartney> you dont to use there
[23:33] <mccartney> ?
[23:33] <LjL> mccartney: stop being random please
[23:33] <mccartney> in linux with the suite aircrack
[23:33] <LjL> mccartney: no cracking talk here
[23:33] <mccartney> no???
[23:33] <mccartney> is mad??
[23:33] <wolfric> could anyone give me a hand using festival (pretty simple and hardly program specific issue). I'm trying to go $festival (SayText "message") however it's saying syntax error. However if you run festival and type that in it works
[23:33] <mccartney> because
[23:33] <LjL> no. this channel is about legal Ubuntu support.
[23:34] <edbian> sparky, I have no idea.  I just saw this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535951
[23:34] <mccartney> no is mad if you to use with care
[23:34] <mccartney> if you dont have of money
[23:34] <edbian> mccartney, If you don't have a question then stop talking.
[23:34] <sparky> edbian; ok thanks ill take a look at it
[23:35] <mccartney> im  question for you
[23:35] <LjL> your english isn't very understandable. have you tried #ubuntu-es?
[23:36] <edbian> sparky, Good luck.  It appears to be right under your nose :)
[23:36] <mccartney> my english not is perfect
[23:36] <mccartney> i know
[23:36] <Raptors> is there anything like Bitvise Tunnelier for linux?
[23:36] <edbian> LjL, I sent him !es.  He ignores it.
[23:36] <mccartney> but i want to learn
[23:37] <LjL> mccartney, this is not the right channel to learn enough - try going to ##english or #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <LjL> mccartney: this channel tends to be very busy
[23:37] <mccartney> busy ??? you dont very friend
[23:38] <mccartney> busy only  obama
[23:38] <voidmage> has wine1.3 been packaged anywhere yet?
[23:38] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[23:38] <jimbo_> Okay, so there's no more xorg.conf -- is there a way I can *get* one for my current configuration?  I need to modify it.
[23:39] <ShapeShifter499> how do I sign the Ubuntu code of Conduct?
[23:39] <mccartney> if you use the ubuntu is for a intention???
[23:39] <mccartney> who??
[23:39] <ShapeShifter499> I've got the asc file output but I cannot read its contents
[23:39] <mccartney> the crack?
[23:39] <sparky> edbian; i found it where you sugested and it is saved corectly so hopping its just one of those things that you have to do a few times before your computer knows to save it
[23:39] <d9500> jimbo_, yes, you can create an xorg.conf. you'll need to drop to a command prompt to do it, though, unless you already know all the settings you want to use
[23:39] <mccartney> is better to work for th money
[23:40] <edbian> sparky, You should only have to tell it once. Glad I could help.
[23:40] <jimbo_> d9500: I mean, how can I get an xorg.conf that represents my current video settings, as a starting point?  Creating one entirely from scratch is undesirable
[23:40] <mccartney> now im use the xubuntu and is very nice but
[23:40] <daniel_tree> for intel core 2 duo process which is the best i586 or i686 ?
[23:40] <mccartney> hard
[23:41] <mccartney> is crazy
[23:41] <mccartney> in moments
[23:41] <d9500> jimbo_, ok, write down what i'm about to say,or copy and paste it in your text editor of choice, then print it...b/c when you drop from the point-and-click GUI to a command line environment, you'll lose the IRC window.
[23:41] <edbian> jimbo_, use xorg -configure.  Look at the man page.  Does exactly what you're looking for.
[23:42] <mccartney> the kernel the paquets the terminal the ...
[23:42] <guampa> s/n ratio ++
[23:42] <ibrokegrub> Could someone assist me in updating grub (after i broke it) via my live cd?
[23:43] <edbian> ibrokegrub, Have you booted the live cd already?
[23:43] <mccartney> but the americans are intelligents
[23:43] <d9500> edbian, yes, but he has to be outside of X to do that, and I once made the mistake of telling someone how to stop X without wanring him that he would lose the GUI..so I'm trying not to do that here.
[23:43] <JULinuxUser_> is the linux-headers-ibm-x.x.x-x kernel for all IBM / Intel processors?
[23:43] <ibrokegrub> edbian, yes. i am on it now
[23:43] <JULinuxUser_> Intel core 2 duo in particular
[23:43] <edbian> d9500, Really?  You can't create an xorg.conf file using that command while running X ??
[23:43] <jimbo_> d9500: It's okay, I've been a linux admin for some years.  Just don't mess with X much.
[23:43] <sweetpi> mccartney: what is your native language?
[23:44] <mccartney> catalan
[23:44] <mccartney> of spain
[23:44] <d9500> edbian, if you try while in X, you get a fatal error, server is already active for screen 0" error message
[23:44] <ibrokegrub> edbian, silly me i disabled the os_prober in grub, and now of course i only get a grub console for boot :P
[23:44] <edbian> d9500, I just saw that.  You learn something new everday!
[23:44] <mccartney> but the english is betterç
[23:44] <jimbo_> d9500: edbian: I dont have an `xorg` executable anyway, so what package am I missing?
[23:44] <FiremanEd> !ot | mccartney
[23:44] <mccartney> of curse
[23:45] <asus> anyone could help with bash programming?
[23:45] <mazer> Hello
[23:45] <guampa> asus: what is it?
[23:45] <edbian> ibrokegrub, I don't know how to edit that in grub 2 anymore! :(
[23:45] <edbian> ibrokegrub, I don't think I can help.  I was just going to explain how to reinstall grub to your hdd using a live CD.
[23:45] <JULinuxUser_> am I invisible or does no one know?
[23:45] <edbian> ibrokegrub, on the live CD grub-install --root-dir=/path/to/mounted/fs /dev/sdXY
[23:45] <d9500> jimbo_, in that case, if you're comofortable outside of the GUI, then just hit ctl+alt+f1 to switch to a virtual terminal, then type sudo service gdm stop (and maybe sudo killall X for good measure) then run the command Xorg -configure. It will create the xorg.conf file in /root, so you will need to copy it over to /etc/X11
[23:46] <ibrokegrub> edbian, i know how to edit it, but i am not sure how to update-grub. reinstalling grub kept my botched config
[23:46] <jimbo_> d9500: oh, capital Xorg.  Gotcha,
[23:46] <mccartney> im so happy when im speak english
[23:46] <sweetpi> !ca | mccartney
[23:46] <mccartney> is better that the other
[23:46] <sweetpi> lol
[23:46] <ibrokegrub> edbian, ive already fixed the error i made in /etc/default/grub
[23:46] <jimbo_> d9500: but gnome (or whoever) sets up my displays for me.  If I stop gdm, Xorg -configure doesn't seem likely to give me what I want.
[23:47] <mccartney> catalan is differnt of the canadian
[23:47] <headkase314> I'm in Canada, am I in the wrong channel!?  Silly me! ;)
[23:47] <edbian> ibrokegrub, then you just have to run the command I showed you.
[23:47] <mdxblog> hi
[23:47] <edbian> ibrokegrub, Mount the root partition somewhere in your filesystem. Do you know how to do that??
[23:47] <mccartney> is very different
[23:47] <sweetpi> !andorra | mccartney
[23:47] <mccartney> andorra ???
[23:47] <sweetpi> mccartney: yes i know, i thought it might recognize ca=catalan
[23:47] <ibrokegrub> edbian, mount /dev/devxY  /temp/
[23:47] <mccartney> how this??
[23:47] <mdxblog> i need video converter for ubuntu
[23:48] <magicianlord> vlc
[23:48] <d9500> jimbo_, today's X and desktop environments tend to auto-configure..there still exists the option to use the settings in xorg.conf, though. If you create the file, and the syntax is correct, then I would think X should read the settings from it.
[23:48] <edbian> ibrokegrub, That'll do. You have it mounted?
[23:48] <asus> anybody could help in bash scripting?
[23:48] <mccartney> how ubuntu use sweetpi ??
[23:48] <mccartney> xubuntu kubuntu ??
[23:48] <d9500> jimbo_, for example, I always had to manually make an xorg.conf when i used the nvidia binary driver downloaded from nvidia's website.
[23:49] <edbian> ibrokegrub, What is your hdd?  /dev/sda  ?
[23:49] <claytonwalker> Since I've always felt that Nvidia drivers for older graphics cards break some functionality in Ubuntu, I have decided to try to force screen resolutions. How would I go about doing this? (Xorg Cfg has changed, from what I can tell.
[23:49] <ibrokegrub> edbian,  i had tried that (grub-install --root-dir=/path/to/mounted/fs /dev/sdXY)  but it seemed to have kept the grub config
[23:49] <jimbo_> d9500: back shortly, let's see what I get.
[23:49] <d9500> jimbo_, ok.
[23:49] <guampa> mdxblog: i've installed arista, haven't used it though
[23:49] <edbian> ibrokegrub, (not sure if you need sudo) grub-install --root-directory=/temp /dev/sda
[23:50] <guampa> @asus: what is it?
[23:50] <edbian> ibrokegrub, it's --root-directory not --root-dir, /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 or something.
[23:50] <edbian> ibrokegrub, and you might need root.
[23:50] <edbian> ibrokegrub, It take the configure file found in /boot under the root-directory.
[23:50] <mccartney> how much to years  to take to learn this language
[23:50] <mccartney> ???
[23:50] <mccartney> is hard
[23:50] <edbian> ibrokegrub, This command installs grub to the hdd based on the stuff it finds in the root-directory
[23:51] <edbian> !ops | mccartney
[23:51] <edbian> mccartney, Sorry mccartney, you've been offtopic for a long time.
[23:51] <mccartney> im make to crime ??
[23:51] <magicianlord> does anyone know how to decipher the UUID?
[23:52] <mccartney> not
[23:52] <jpds> mccartney: Para si us plau, el canal castela es #ubuntu-es, i el catala es #ubuntu-cat.
[23:52] <sweetpi> aha cat not ca
[23:52] <mccartney> is boring this channel
[23:52] <jpds> mccartney: It's not suppose to be fun.
[23:52] <jpds> mccartney: We're here to support people.
[23:52] <kyubutsu> stop feeding the troll
[23:53] <jpds> sweetpi: Nothing to do with cats though.
[23:53] <ibrokegrub> edbian, from liveCD/root or from mounted-install/root
[23:53] <mccartney> are you profesional jpds??
[23:53] <mccartney> wowww¿¿¿
[23:53] <edbian> ibrokegrub, From the --root-directory=/some/path
[23:53] <iceroot> mccartney: stop it please
[23:53] <sweetpi> jpds: yes i know hehe, just thought ca was the language code for catalan
[23:54] <edbian> ibrokegrub, It would do the liveCD's root but you gave it that option so it choosed the root of the mounted fs.
[23:54] <Confucius> Hey, guys. How do I change the default trash limit?
[23:55] <Confucius> Cause it's like 10mb right now, it's ridic
[23:55] <Confucius> Less than 10mb... I don't even know
[23:55] <eyoung101> can i install ubuntu without a bootloader?
[23:55] <ibrokegrub> edbian,  hmm, ok tell me if this is nuts.  if i copy the 10_blah files and the grub file to the live cd's virtual file system, and run update-grub on it, will that them put the proper grub back on sda1 ?
[23:55] <Jason1> does anyone know where I can get the default /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?
[23:55] <prunk> google!
[23:55] <prunk> :)
[23:55] <edbian> ibrokegrub, In theory.
[23:56] <jimbo_> whoever I was just talking to, `Xorg -configure` segfaults.  Meh.
[23:56] <edbian> ibrokegrub, But that's the whole point of using --root-directory.  Why don't you do it that way?
[23:56] <d9500> jimbo_, can you pastebin the error?
[23:56] <magicianlord> why is GRUB so difficult to fix? why can't it just be, you boot up with a CD and say, reinstall GRUB in /dev/sda
[23:56] <edbian> ibrokegrub, Also, you don't install grub to /dev/sda1  you install it to /dev/sda  the entire hdd not just 1 partition.
[23:56] <ibrokegrub> edbian,  because doing that seems to grab the grub.cfg that is on it now, and i need to do an update-grub on it to fix it 1st
[23:57] <edbian> ibrokegrub, ahhh, try that then.  I think you can update-grub --some-dir or something too.
[23:57] <bulgaristan> hola
[23:58] <edbian> ibrokegrub, Looking at the man-page there doesn't appear to be an option like that.  Yeah, do update grub and then copy the files.  Good luck with that! :)
[23:58] <bulgaristan> hay jente de spain
[23:58] <jimbo_> d9500: no error, just a backtrace.  Right after loading fbdev successfully, I think fglrx driver's next and that's where it faults.
[23:58] <MaRk-I> !es | bulgaristan
[23:58] <edbian> magicianlord, I don't know.  It is rather awkward though.
[23:59] <claytonwalker> Nevermind, I just found the perfect forum thread online. Didn't exsist too long ago, apparently. Link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1437980
[23:59] <bulgaristan> join ubuntu es
[23:59] <magicianlord> it is awkward
[23:59] <jimbo_> d9500: segfaults at 0x00000000 even which I don't believe I've seen heh