Mahjongg | hello, what does synchronizing a folder do? | 01:40 |
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bladernr_ | duanedesign: Ok... it did it again, even with writelimit set to 2048. The constant I seem to be finding is that syncdaemon loses it's connection to the cloud... at least, once I notice that syncdaemon is killing my system, the last debug messages are connection error messages. | 01:51 |
Mahjongg | what is the differenc ebetween storing and sync'ing? | 01:54 |
Mahjongg | Does syncing keep only the tree structure? | 02:17 |
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duanedesign | Mahjongg: sync means it copies between all your computers | 02:35 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: so if you delete a file in your Ubuntu One folder on computer A it will also be deleted on Computer B | 02:36 |
Chipaca | Mahjongg: I'm going out right now, but your issue is "interesting". Could you file a bug report? | 02:38 |
duanedesign | bladernr_: could you attach the latest syncdaemon.log and syncdaemon-exception.log to the bug report. I realize the while log folder is 500MB but a DEBUG log would be helpful | 02:48 |
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Naznaz | hi i got a really sad question: I'm trying to set up Ubuntu One and the installation guide says "click the Add this Computer button." ... but where exactly is this button? | 09:47 |
Naznaz | And how can I tell my ubuntu one client my login data? | 09:55 |
kermiac_ | Naznaz: http://bit.ly/caHbOf | 10:00 |
Naznaz | kermiac, wow, thanks a lot | 10:01 |
Naznaz | yes it's working now, thank you | 10:02 |
mkarnicki | good morning | 10:04 |
duanedesign | Naznaz: just FYI, the contact sync is currently off for maintenance. You can get the latest on the status of the services at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status | 10:19 |
duanedesign | morning mkarnicki | 10:19 |
mkarnicki | morning duanedesign ! | 10:19 |
mkarnicki | how are things? | 10:20 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: good. Waiting for launchpad to build some packages for my PPA | 10:21 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: did you solve that pending problem of yours, with spottify I guess.. ? or was it not spottify | 10:21 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: great :) | 10:21 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: you mean stipple? | 10:22 |
Naznaz | thank you :) | 10:22 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: argh, stipple. where did I get that spottify o_O | 10:22 |
duanedesign | Naznaz: i figured as you are setting things you might notice that :) Hopefully thay will have that back on soon | 10:23 |
Naznaz | :) yes, thanks | 10:23 |
duanedesign | Naznaz: also another good link is this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials | 10:23 |
duanedesign | Naznaz: that will help you get all the wervices set up on your computer | 10:24 |
Naznaz | I was there but didn't see it :) thanks | 10:24 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: I struggled with TreeStores in pyGTK. Eventually I ended up just keeping the ListStore but adding a search feature | 10:25 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: it was for clicompanion | 10:25 |
duanedesign | http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=194 | 10:25 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: oh right, sorry. GTK TreeLists are a headache in C | 10:26 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: cool =) | 10:27 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: yes i had it working, all excepth the 'remove command' feature. Couldnt figure out how to get the children rows to be iterated over and written to the flat file I use to store the commands. | 10:35 |
duanedesign | but it turns out the solution I ended up with, I think, is better | 10:36 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: I didn't have to try it out yet, though :< | 10:43 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: I could tell you how I iterated over TreeList rows, but in C | 10:55 |
mkarnicki | however, you've got the solution already :) | 10:55 |
mkarnicki | beuno: yo, could you test a lil thing on AndroidU1 for me? | 10:56 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: i might take you up on that some day :) | 10:57 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: I'll be happy to help :) | 10:57 |
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alex_ | hi | 11:48 |
alex_ | HELLO!!!! | 11:52 |
mkarnicki | alex_: just ask your question, don't expect everybody will say hi, there's too many of us to say hi at once ;) | 11:55 |
alex_ | oh | 11:55 |
alex_ | sorry | 11:55 |
mkarnicki | alex_: np ;) | 11:55 |
alex_ | will it auto sync my stuff? | 11:55 |
mkarnicki | alex_: will what? Ubuntu One? | 11:56 |
mkarnicki | alex_: what stuff? | 11:56 |
mkarnicki | alex_: Ubuntu One (I presume) let's you synchronize your files among your computers using Ubuntu One | 11:56 |
mkarnicki | alex_: and yes, it does that automatically, whenever you have connection availible. | 11:57 |
alex_ | ok thanks | 11:57 |
alex_ | :) | 11:57 |
mkarnicki | alex_: np :) you might want to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne | 11:58 |
mkarnicki | alex_: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials | 11:58 |
alex_ | ok thanks | 11:58 |
mkarnicki | you're welcome | 11:58 |
alex_ | im off now then | 11:58 |
alex_ | thanks | 11:58 |
mkarnicki | np | 11:58 |
Mahjongg | Chipaca, my issue? | 12:34 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: he might of been talking about bladernr_ issue | 12:35 |
Mahjongg | oh, all right | 12:35 |
duanedesign | if so Chipaca bladernr_ is suffering from bug 568453 | 12:36 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 568453 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "[lucid beta2] Ubuntuone-syncdaemon using enormous amounts of ram (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568453 | 12:36 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: everything running ok with you? | 12:36 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, I wasn't aware that if sync feature was not used, if a file is deleted from ubuntuone folder on PC A that the same file on PC B was not deleted. So for a full directory synchronization I have to put files in ubuntuone folder and choose synchronize on ubuntuone? | 12:39 |
Mahjongg | I cannot see the sync on ubuntuone option in the context menu for a folder in UbuntoOne folder, though | 12:40 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: all folders in the Ubuntu ONe folder are automatically syncronized | 12:44 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: you can set any folder in your $Home to sync with Ubuntu OnE | 12:44 |
Mahjongg | without copying it on the cloud? | 12:44 |
duanedesign | these are called User Designated Folders (UDF) | 12:44 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: Ubuntu One autonatically copies the files to the cloud and to your other computers on your Ubuntu One account | 12:45 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: if you right-click a folder and select 'Sync With Ubuntu One' it will sync to the cloud and then to your other computers | 12:46 |
Mahjongg | so if I'd like to sync a file myFile on all of my computers I can either put it in U1 folder or keep its path unchanged and choose sync on U1? | 12:47 |
Mahjongg | that's the only difference? | 12:47 |
Mahjongg | ? | 12:49 |
duanedesign | a folder yes, not a file | 12:53 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: you can sync any folder in your Home directory | 12:54 |
duanedesign | but yes you can either put it in U1 folder or make it a UDF by right-clicking and selecting sync with U1 | 12:54 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, I see. Then now please help my actualy problem. I have erroneously chosen to make a very private folder UDF | 12:55 |
Mahjongg | and it is a very large folder | 12:55 |
Mahjongg | larger than 2GB which I have | 12:55 |
Mahjongg | now I can see it's directory structure on the cloud website | 12:56 |
Mahjongg | I do not see the files though | 12:56 |
Mahjongg | I'd like to make sure that no copy of those files exist anywhere else than my current PC | 12:56 |
Mahjongg | I see a recycle icon and an exclamation mark on those files and folders | 12:57 |
Mahjongg | currently... | 12:57 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: so you would like to unsync it and delete it | 13:01 |
duanedesign | delete it from the cloud | 13:01 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, can I unsync it before initial sync finishes? | 13:01 |
Mahjongg | because I believe it might still be copying files to cloud or my other PCs which are on | 13:02 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: | 13:02 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: open a Terminal | 13:02 |
duanedesign | and run the command: u1sdtool --list-folders | 13:03 |
duanedesign | note the ID that is used by new UDF(User Designated Folder) | 13:03 |
duanedesign | look like this: | 13:04 |
duanedesign | id=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b1 subscribed=True path=/home/duanedesign/Photos | 13:04 |
duanedesign | then run the command: | 13:04 |
duanedesign | u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=$ID | 13:04 |
duanedesign | where $ID is the ID from the previous command | 13:05 |
duanedesign | so using the example i posted from my computer it would be: u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b1 | 13:05 |
Mahjongg | Folder list: | 13:07 |
Mahjongg | id=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f subscribed= path=/home/user/Teaching | 13:07 |
Mahjongg | it is still listed though | 13:07 |
Mahjongg | just not TRUE | 13:07 |
Mahjongg | after doing unsubscribe I mean... | 13:07 |
duanedesign | that is correct | 13:07 |
duanedesign | means it is not syncing anymore but the folder still exists on the cloud | 13:08 |
Mahjongg | ok, I'll delete them from the cloud | 13:08 |
duanedesign | ok you need to do: | 13:08 |
duanedesign | u1sdtool --quit | 13:08 |
duanedesign | u1sdtool --start | 13:09 |
Mahjongg | OK | 13:09 |
duanedesign | (in new terminal, since it will not release the terminal right away) - u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID | 13:09 |
duanedesign | or if the command --start is finished you can do it in same terminal | 13:10 |
duanedesign | so: u1sdtool --delete-folder=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f | 13:11 |
Mahjongg | --delete-folder does not delte the actual folder but just its reference in U1, right? | 13:11 |
duanedesign | it will not delete the folder on your hard drive | 13:11 |
Mahjongg | OK | 13:11 |
duanedesign | just the folder on the cloud | 13:11 |
duanedesign | so you wont see it at https://one.ubuntu.com/files anymore | 13:12 |
duanedesign | after the delete command: u1sdtool --connect | 13:12 |
Mahjongg | delete is still working... | 13:12 |
duanedesign | ok | 13:12 |
mkarnicki | ⢁) | 13:17 |
mkarnicki | (funkyHat reminded me how to input unicode :D) | 13:17 |
Mahjongg | still working... | 13:22 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, can I see the files in UDF folders on cloud website? | 13:22 |
Mahjongg | it appears like only the tree structure is shown of UDF folders | 13:24 |
Mahjongg | I am trying to understand if that is due to UDF sync has never finished | 13:24 |
Mahjongg | or not | 13:24 |
mkarnicki | CardinalFang: ping | 13:31 |
duanedesign | mayes your UDFs should be visible at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ | 13:33 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg:^^ | 13:33 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, I just see the folder structure there | 13:33 |
Mahjongg | not the files | 13:33 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: if you see the folders and not the files it may still be uploading. It does the metadata first | 13:33 |
Mahjongg | OK, then it is possible that my student related files never left my laptop? | 13:34 |
duanedesign | yes. | 13:36 |
Mahjongg | when u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID finishes do I have to delete files from other PCs as well(if any of the files were copied at all) or does the U1 system takes care of that | 13:39 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, ^^ | 13:43 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, still working, do you think it will take that much time? or may be it is hung> | 13:47 |
duanedesign | rye: hello | 14:15 |
rye | duanedesign, hi! | 14:15 |
duanedesign | rye: when doing "Accidentally added an UDF, how to remove it fast" | 14:15 |
duanedesign | it is hanging at that point -->u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID | 14:16 |
duanedesign | hh i see | 14:16 |
duanedesign | you open a new terminal and run: u1sdtool --connect | 14:17 |
Shezif | Hi! | 14:17 |
Shezif | How do I connect between ubuntuone contacts and evolution? | 14:17 |
duanedesign | Shezif: currently the contact syn is disabled | 14:17 |
duanedesign | Shezif: you can get the latest on the status of the services at: | 14:17 |
Shezif | And do you know witch time it will be back ? | 14:18 |
duanedesign | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status | 14:18 |
Shezif | thanks | 14:18 |
duanedesign | Shezif: there are also tutorials to help get it all setup for when it does come back on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials | 14:18 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: can you open a seperate terminal and run the command: u1sdtool --connect | 14:19 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, trying now | 14:19 |
Shezif | Is ubuntuone can work under Debian ? | 14:20 |
om26er | where to move bugs related to ubuntu one website? | 14:24 |
om26er | which lp project? | 14:24 |
Mahjongg | duanedesign, --connect did it, thank you so much | 14:25 |
duanedesign | Mahjongg: ok, great | 14:25 |
duanedesign | om26er: that would be - ubuntuone-server | 14:25 |
duanedesign | Shezif: it could work under Debian. Just not sure how much work it would be | 14:26 |
duanedesign | om26er: sorry that is : ubuntuone-servers | 14:27 |
duanedesign | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+filebug | 14:27 |
om26er | duanedesign, yes done. thanks :) | 14:27 |
duanedesign | ;) | 14:27 |
Shezif | duanedesign, thank you sir :) | 14:27 |
duanedesign | Shezif: i think someone is working on that... | 14:28 |
Shezif | I'm very interesting to upgrade my ubuntuone plane to the 50 GB ... But before I'll do that I'm just what to sure that I can connect to my ubuntuone from my debian | 14:29 |
duanedesign | Shezif: you can always get files from the web interface on Non-Ubuntu computers | 14:34 |
Shezif | yes// | 14:34 |
djan37 | hi | 15:07 |
djan37 | is there a problem with ubuntu one? | 15:07 |
mkarnicki | djan37: depends what you're asking about, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status | 15:13 |
duanedesign | djan37: hello | 15:13 |
duanedesign | hi mkarnicki | 15:13 |
mkarnicki | hi duanedesign :) | 15:13 |
* mkarnicki has nice application pickers for picking file for upload to U1 | 15:14 | |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: didnt see you at first. Your nick is the same color as the join/parts in my IRC client | 15:14 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: :D hahah, is that my fault? :D | 15:14 |
djan37 | "Ubuntu One Preferences" dialog says "disconnected" | 15:14 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: should he try u1sdtool -c ? | 15:15 |
duanedesign | mkarnicki: no, it is my nick color script | 15:15 |
mkarnicki | djan37: try in concole: u1sdtool --connect | 15:16 |
mkarnicki | djan37: and paste here output of u1sdtool --status | 15:16 |
djan37 | State: ROOT_MISMATCH connection: With User With Network description: local and server roots are different is_connected: False is_error: True is_online: False queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH | 15:16 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: time to fix it, I don't want to be overlooked ^_^ ⢁) | 15:16 |
mkarnicki | duanedesign: ^ ROOT_MISMATCH - should he/she remove the device and add it again? | 15:17 |
duanedesign | djan37: root mismatch ok | 15:18 |
duanedesign | let me openn my notes | 15:18 |
djan37 | totday, i maded a new account, add my computer again | 15:19 |
djan37 | i maded a new account because the old one doesn't synchronize | 15:20 |
djan37 | but now it doesnt still work :) | 15:20 |
duanedesign | djan37: ok that might be it | 15:21 |
duanedesign | ROOT MISMATCH happens when you have left over metadata from another user | 15:21 |
bladernr_ | duanedesign: Just saw your message in the back log... I'm uploading a tarball of the logs directory now (it's gzipped down to about 80MB) | 15:23 |
duanedesign | djan37: if you open this file: gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log | 15:23 |
duanedesign | does it look similar to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36307190/syncdaemon-exceptions.log | 15:23 |
bladernr_ | duanedesign: I also (during that run) ran the syncdaemon directly from CLI with --debug set and tee'd it to a master log file (that is the one thats a few hundred MB in size), I can add that too if you want, but I was under the impression that the debug logs in the log directory contain the same data in smaller sizes... | 15:24 |
duanedesign | bladernr_: ok. I think someone with a more detailed knowledge of syncdaemon is going to look at that report for you | 15:24 |
djan37 | syncdaemon-exception.log is an empty file | 15:24 |
bladernr_ | duanedesign: cool. thanks for all the help, by the way. | 15:24 |
duanedesign | bladernr_: no problem. Hope it gets sorted out quickly | 15:25 |
* mkarnicki needs a developer phone; if it goes like that long, I'll kill my battery | 15:28 | |
duanedesign | djan37: ok you need to follow the FAQ here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/778 | 15:28 |
duanedesign | The bug report for that issue is bug 490988 | 15:30 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490988 in ubuntuone-client "Lot of MakeDir and MakeFile failures because of root mismatch (affects: 9) (dups: 5) (heat: 26)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490988 | 15:30 |
djan37 | ok i follow the FAQ (is it a problem if Bookmarks and Contacts are out of service? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status) | 15:30 |
duanedesign | djan37: no the bookmarks and contacts are not affected so much as the file sync in that bug | 15:32 |
duanedesign | the information in ~/Ubuntu One and ~/.local/share/ubuntuone do not match up with information on the server | 15:33 |
duanedesign | it happens sometimes when a new user is created in an old non-cleaned structure | 15:33 |
djan37 | thanks i think it works again | 15:42 |
djan37 | the files in ubuntu one folder are checked with a green "V" | 15:43 |
djan37 | but the "Ubuntu One" folder has no green "V" | 15:43 |
djan37 | i'll reboot | 15:47 |
djan37 | after reboot "ubuntu one" folder is synced, thanks :) | 15:51 |
duanedesign | djan37: allright \o/ | 16:06 |
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d3bug | hey... can anyone help me with the ubuntu one setup? | 22:00 |
d3bug | nm... got it... :) | 22:02 |
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