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Mahjongghello, what does synchronizing a folder do?01:40
bladernr_duanedesign:  Ok... it did it again, even with writelimit set to 2048.  The constant I seem to be finding is that syncdaemon loses it's connection to the cloud... at least, once I notice that syncdaemon is killing my system, the last debug messages are connection error messages.01:51
Mahjonggwhat is the differenc ebetween storing and sync'ing?01:54
MahjonggDoes syncing keep only the tree structure?02:17
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duanedesignMahjongg: sync means it copies between all your computers02:35
duanedesignMahjongg: so if you delete a file in your Ubuntu One folder on computer A it will also be deleted on Computer B02:36
ChipacaMahjongg: I'm going out right now, but your issue is "interesting". Could you file a bug report?02:38
duanedesignbladernr_: could you attach the latest syncdaemon.log and syncdaemon-exception.log to the bug report. I realize the while log folder is 500MB but a DEBUG log would be helpful02:48
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Naznazhi i got a really sad question: I'm trying to set up Ubuntu One and the installation guide says "click the Add this Computer button." ... but where exactly is this button?09:47
NaznazAnd how can I tell my ubuntu one client my login data?09:55
kermiac_Naznaz: http://bit.ly/caHbOf10:00
Naznazkermiac, wow, thanks a lot10:01
Naznazyes it's working now, thank you10:02
mkarnickigood morning10:04
duanedesignNaznaz: just FYI, the contact sync is currently off for maintenance. You can get the latest on the status of the services at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status10:19
duanedesignmorning mkarnicki10:19
mkarnickimorning duanedesign !10:19
mkarnickihow are things?10:20
duanedesignmkarnicki: good. Waiting for launchpad to build some packages for my PPA10:21
mkarnickiduanedesign: did you solve that pending problem of yours, with spottify I guess.. ? or was it not spottify10:21
mkarnickiduanedesign: great :)10:21
duanedesignmkarnicki: you mean stipple?10:22
Naznazthank you :)10:22
mkarnickiduanedesign: argh, stipple. where did I get that spottify o_O10:22
duanedesignNaznaz: i figured as you are setting things you might notice that :) Hopefully thay will have that back on soon10:23
Naznaz:) yes, thanks10:23
duanedesignNaznaz: also another good link is this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials10:23
duanedesignNaznaz: that will help you get all the wervices set up on your computer10:24
NaznazI was there but didn't see it :) thanks10:24
duanedesignmkarnicki: I struggled with TreeStores in pyGTK. Eventually I ended up just keeping the ListStore but adding a search feature10:25
duanedesignmkarnicki: it was for clicompanion10:25
duanedesignhttp://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=19410:25
mkarnickiduanedesign: oh right, sorry. GTK TreeLists are a headache in C10:26
mkarnickiduanedesign: cool =)10:27
duanedesignmkarnicki: yes i had it working, all excepth the 'remove command' feature. Couldnt figure out how to get the children rows to be iterated over and written to the flat file I use to store the commands.10:35
duanedesignbut it turns out the solution I ended up with, I think, is better10:36
mkarnickiduanedesign: I didn't have to try it out yet, though :<10:43
mkarnickiduanedesign: I could tell you how I iterated over TreeList rows, but in C10:55
mkarnickihowever, you've got the solution already :)10:55
mkarnickibeuno: yo, could you test a lil thing on AndroidU1 for me?10:56
duanedesignmkarnicki: i might take you  up on that some day :)10:57
mkarnickiduanedesign: I'll be happy to help :)10:57
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alex_hi11:48
alex_HELLO!!!!11:52
mkarnickialex_: just ask your question, don't expect everybody will say hi, there's too many of us to say hi at once ;)11:55
alex_oh11:55
alex_sorry11:55
mkarnickialex_: np ;)11:55
alex_will it auto sync my stuff?11:55
mkarnickialex_: will what? Ubuntu One?11:56
mkarnickialex_: what stuff?11:56
mkarnickialex_: Ubuntu One (I presume) let's you synchronize your files among your computers using Ubuntu One11:56
mkarnickialex_: and yes, it does that automatically, whenever you have connection availible.11:57
alex_ok thanks11:57
alex_:)11:57
mkarnickialex_: np :) you might want to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne11:58
mkarnickialex_: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials11:58
alex_ok thanks11:58
mkarnickiyou're welcome11:58
alex_im off now then11:58
alex_thanks11:58
mkarnickinp11:58
MahjonggChipaca, my issue?12:34
duanedesignMahjongg: he might of been talking about  bladernr_ issue12:35
Mahjonggoh, all right12:35
duanedesignif so Chipaca bladernr_ is suffering from bug 56845312:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 568453 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "[lucid beta2] Ubuntuone-syncdaemon using enormous amounts of ram (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56845312:36
duanedesignMahjongg: everything running ok with you?12:36
Mahjonggduanedesign, I wasn't aware that if sync feature was not used, if a file is deleted from ubuntuone folder on PC A that the same file on PC B was not deleted. So for a full directory synchronization I have to put files in ubuntuone folder and choose synchronize on ubuntuone?12:39
MahjonggI cannot see the sync on ubuntuone option in the context menu for a folder in UbuntoOne folder, though12:40
duanedesignMahjongg: all folders in the Ubuntu ONe folder are automatically syncronized12:44
duanedesignMahjongg: you can set any folder in your $Home to sync with Ubuntu OnE12:44
Mahjonggwithout copying it on the cloud?12:44
duanedesignthese are called User Designated Folders (UDF)12:44
duanedesignMahjongg: Ubuntu One autonatically copies the files to the cloud and to your other computers on your Ubuntu One account12:45
duanedesignMahjongg: if you right-click a folder and select 'Sync With Ubuntu One' it will sync to the cloud and then to your other computers12:46
Mahjonggso if I'd like to sync a file myFile on all of my computers I can either put it in U1 folder or keep its path unchanged and choose sync on U1?12:47
Mahjonggthat's the only difference?12:47
Mahjongg?12:49
duanedesigna folder yes, not a file12:53
duanedesignMahjongg: you can sync any folder in your Home directory12:54
duanedesignbut yes you can either put it in U1 folder or make it a UDF by right-clicking and selecting sync with U112:54
Mahjonggduanedesign, I see. Then now please help my actualy problem. I have erroneously chosen to make a very private folder UDF12:55
Mahjonggand it is a very large folder12:55
Mahjongglarger than 2GB which I have12:55
Mahjonggnow I can see it's directory structure on the cloud website12:56
MahjonggI do not see the files though12:56
MahjonggI'd like to make sure that no copy of those files exist anywhere else than my current PC12:56
MahjonggI see a recycle icon and an exclamation mark on those files and folders12:57
Mahjonggcurrently...12:57
duanedesignMahjongg: so you would like to unsync it and delete it13:01
duanedesigndelete it from the cloud13:01
Mahjonggduanedesign, can I unsync it before initial sync finishes?13:01
Mahjonggbecause I believe it might still be copying files to cloud or my other PCs which are on13:02
duanedesignMahjongg:13:02
duanedesignMahjongg: open a Terminal13:02
duanedesignand run the command:   u1sdtool --list-folders13:03
duanedesignnote the ID that is used by new UDF(User Designated Folder)13:03
duanedesignlook like this:13:04
duanedesign  id=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b1 subscribed=True path=/home/duanedesign/Photos13:04
duanedesignthen run the command:13:04
duanedesignu1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=$ID13:04
duanedesignwhere $ID is the ID from the previous command13:05
duanedesignso using the example i posted from my computer it would be: u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b113:05
MahjonggFolder list:13:07
Mahjongg  id=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f subscribed= path=/home/user/Teaching13:07
Mahjonggit is still listed though13:07
Mahjonggjust not TRUE13:07
Mahjonggafter doing unsubscribe I mean...13:07
duanedesignthat is correct13:07
duanedesignmeans it is not syncing anymore but the folder still exists on the cloud13:08
Mahjonggok, I'll delete them from the cloud13:08
duanedesignok you need to do:13:08
duanedesignu1sdtool --quit13:08
duanedesignu1sdtool --start13:09
MahjonggOK13:09
duanedesign(in new terminal, since it will not release the terminal right away) - u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID13:09
duanedesignor if the command --start is finished you can do it  in same terminal13:10
duanedesignso: u1sdtool --delete-folder=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f13:11
Mahjongg--delete-folder does not delte the actual folder but just its reference in U1, right?13:11
duanedesignit will not delete the folder on your hard drive13:11
MahjonggOK13:11
duanedesignjust the folder on the cloud13:11
duanedesignso you wont see it at https://one.ubuntu.com/files anymore13:12
duanedesignafter the delete command: u1sdtool --connect13:12
Mahjonggdelete is still working...13:12
duanedesignok13:12
mkarnicki⢁)13:17
mkarnicki(funkyHat reminded me how to input unicode :D)13:17
Mahjonggstill working...13:22
Mahjonggduanedesign, can I see the files in UDF folders on cloud website?13:22
Mahjonggit appears like only the tree structure is shown of UDF folders13:24
MahjonggI am trying to understand if that is due to UDF sync has never finished13:24
Mahjonggor not13:24
mkarnickiCardinalFang: ping13:31
duanedesignmayes your UDFs should be visible at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/13:33
duanedesignMahjongg:^^13:33
Mahjonggduanedesign, I just see the folder structure there13:33
Mahjonggnot the files13:33
duanedesignMahjongg: if you see the folders and not the files it may still be uploading. It does the metadata first13:33
MahjonggOK, then it is possible that my student related files never left my laptop?13:34
duanedesignyes.13:36
Mahjonggwhen u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID finishes do I have to delete files from other PCs as well(if any of the files were copied at all) or does the U1 system takes care of that13:39
Mahjonggduanedesign, ^^13:43
Mahjonggduanedesign, still working, do you think it will take that much time? or may be it is hung>13:47
duanedesignrye: hello14:15
ryeduanedesign, hi!14:15
duanedesignrye: when doing "Accidentally added an UDF, how to remove it fast"14:15
duanedesignit is hanging at that point -->u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID14:16
duanedesignhh i see14:16
duanedesignyou open a new terminal and run: u1sdtool --connect14:17
ShezifHi!14:17
ShezifHow do I connect between ubuntuone contacts and evolution?14:17
duanedesignShezif: currently the contact syn is disabled14:17
duanedesignShezif: you can get the latest on the status of the services at:14:17
ShezifAnd do you know witch time it will be back  ?14:18
duanedesignhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status14:18
Shezifthanks14:18
duanedesignShezif: there are also tutorials to help get it all setup for when it does come back on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials14:18
duanedesignMahjongg: can you open a seperate terminal and run the command: u1sdtool --connect14:19
Mahjonggduanedesign, trying now14:19
ShezifIs ubuntuone can work under Debian  ?14:20
om26erwhere to move bugs related to ubuntu one website?14:24
om26erwhich lp project?14:24
Mahjonggduanedesign, --connect did it, thank you so much14:25
duanedesignMahjongg: ok, great14:25
duanedesignom26er: that would be - ubuntuone-server14:25
duanedesignShezif: it could work under Debian. Just not sure how much work it would be14:26
duanedesignom26er: sorry that is : ubuntuone-servers14:27
duanedesignhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+filebug14:27
om26erduanedesign, yes done. thanks :)14:27
duanedesign;)14:27
Shezifduanedesign, thank you sir :)14:27
duanedesignShezif: i think someone is working on that...14:28
ShezifI'm very interesting to upgrade my ubuntuone plane to the 50 GB ... But before I'll do that I'm just what to sure that I can connect to my ubuntuone from my debian14:29
duanedesignShezif: you can always get files from the web interface on Non-Ubuntu computers14:34
Shezifyes//14:34
djan37hi15:07
djan37is there a problem with ubuntu one?15:07
mkarnickidjan37: depends what you're asking about, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status15:13
duanedesigndjan37: hello15:13
duanedesignhi mkarnicki15:13
mkarnickihi duanedesign :)15:13
* mkarnicki has nice application pickers for picking file for upload to U115:14
duanedesignmkarnicki: didnt see you at first. Your nick is the same color as the join/parts in my IRC client15:14
mkarnickiduanedesign: :D hahah, is that my fault? :D15:14
djan37"Ubuntu One Preferences" dialog says "disconnected"15:14
mkarnickiduanedesign: should he try u1sdtool -c ?15:15
duanedesignmkarnicki: no, it is my nick color script15:15
mkarnickidjan37: try in concole: u1sdtool --connect15:16
mkarnickidjan37: and paste here output of u1sdtool --status15:16
djan37State: ROOT_MISMATCH     connection: With User With Network     description: local and server roots are different     is_connected: False     is_error: True     is_online: False     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH15:16
mkarnickiduanedesign: time to fix it, I don't want to be overlooked ^_^ ⢁)15:16
mkarnickiduanedesign: ^ ROOT_MISMATCH - should he/she remove the device and add it again?15:17
duanedesigndjan37: root mismatch ok15:18
duanedesignlet me openn my notes15:18
djan37totday, i maded a new account, add my computer again15:19
djan37i maded a new account because the old one doesn't synchronize15:20
djan37but now it doesnt still work :)15:20
duanedesigndjan37: ok that might be it15:21
duanedesignROOT MISMATCH happens when you have left over metadata from another user15:21
bladernr_duanedesign:  Just saw your message in the back log... I'm uploading a tarball of the logs directory now (it's gzipped down to about 80MB)15:23
duanedesigndjan37: if you open this file:   gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log15:23
duanedesigndoes it look similar to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36307190/syncdaemon-exceptions.log15:23
bladernr_duanedesign:  I also (during that run) ran the syncdaemon directly from CLI with --debug set and tee'd it to a master log file (that is the one thats a few hundred MB in size), I can add that too if you want, but I was under the impression that the debug logs in the log directory contain the same data in smaller sizes...15:24
duanedesignbladernr_: ok. I think someone with a more detailed knowledge of syncdaemon is going to look at that report for you15:24
djan37syncdaemon-exception.log is an empty file15:24
bladernr_duanedesign:  cool.  thanks for all the help, by the way.15:24
duanedesignbladernr_: no problem. Hope it gets sorted out quickly15:25
* mkarnicki needs a developer phone; if it goes like that long, I'll kill my battery15:28
duanedesigndjan37: ok you need to follow the FAQ here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/77815:28
duanedesignThe bug report for that issue is  bug 49098815:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 490988 in ubuntuone-client "Lot of MakeDir and MakeFile failures because of root mismatch (affects: 9) (dups: 5) (heat: 26)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49098815:30
djan37ok i follow the FAQ (is it a problem if Bookmarks and Contacts are out of service? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status)15:30
duanedesigndjan37: no the bookmarks and contacts are not affected so much as the file sync in that bug15:32
duanedesignthe information in ~/Ubuntu One  and ~/.local/share/ubuntuone  do not match up with information on the server15:33
duanedesignit happens sometimes when a new user is created in an old non-cleaned structure15:33
djan37thanks i think it works again15:42
djan37the files in ubuntu one folder are checked with a green "V"15:43
djan37but the "Ubuntu One" folder has no green "V"15:43
djan37i'll reboot15:47
djan37after reboot "ubuntu one" folder is synced, thanks :)15:51
duanedesigndjan37:  allright \o/16:06
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d3bughey... can anyone help me with the ubuntu one setup?22:00
d3bugnm... got it... :)22:02

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