[01:40] <Mahjongg> hello, what does synchronizing a folder do?
[01:51] <bladernr_> duanedesign:  Ok... it did it again, even with writelimit set to 2048.  The constant I seem to be finding is that syncdaemon loses it's connection to the cloud... at least, once I notice that syncdaemon is killing my system, the last debug messages are connection error messages.
[01:54] <Mahjongg> what is the differenc ebetween storing and sync'ing?
[02:17] <Mahjongg> Does syncing keep only the tree structure?
[02:35] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: sync means it copies between all your computers
[02:36] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: so if you delete a file in your Ubuntu One folder on computer A it will also be deleted on Computer B
[02:38] <Chipaca> Mahjongg: I'm going out right now, but your issue is "interesting". Could you file a bug report?
[02:48] <duanedesign> bladernr_: could you attach the latest syncdaemon.log and syncdaemon-exception.log to the bug report. I realize the while log folder is 500MB but a DEBUG log would be helpful
[09:47] <Naznaz> hi i got a really sad question: I'm trying to set up Ubuntu One and the installation guide says "click the Add this Computer button." ... but where exactly is this button?
[09:55] <Naznaz> And how can I tell my ubuntu one client my login data?
[10:00] <kermiac_> Naznaz: http://bit.ly/caHbOf
[10:01] <Naznaz> kermiac, wow, thanks a lot
[10:02] <Naznaz> yes it's working now, thank you
[10:04] <mkarnicki> good morning
[10:19] <duanedesign> Naznaz: just FYI, the contact sync is currently off for maintenance. You can get the latest on the status of the services at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[10:19] <duanedesign> morning mkarnicki
[10:19] <mkarnicki> morning duanedesign !
[10:20] <mkarnicki> how are things?
[10:21] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: good. Waiting for launchpad to build some packages for my PPA
[10:21] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: did you solve that pending problem of yours, with spottify I guess.. ? or was it not spottify
[10:21] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: great :)
[10:22] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: you mean stipple?
[10:22] <Naznaz> thank you :)
[10:22] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: argh, stipple. where did I get that spottify o_O
[10:23] <duanedesign> Naznaz: i figured as you are setting things you might notice that :) Hopefully thay will have that back on soon
[10:23] <Naznaz> :) yes, thanks
[10:23] <duanedesign> Naznaz: also another good link is this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials
[10:24] <duanedesign> Naznaz: that will help you get all the wervices set up on your computer
[10:24] <Naznaz> I was there but didn't see it :) thanks
[10:25] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: I struggled with TreeStores in pyGTK. Eventually I ended up just keeping the ListStore but adding a search feature
[10:25] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: it was for clicompanion
[10:25] <duanedesign> http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=194
[10:26] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: oh right, sorry. GTK TreeLists are a headache in C
[10:27] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: cool =)
[10:35] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: yes i had it working, all excepth the 'remove command' feature. Couldnt figure out how to get the children rows to be iterated over and written to the flat file I use to store the commands.
[10:36] <duanedesign> but it turns out the solution I ended up with, I think, is better
[10:43] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I didn't have to try it out yet, though :<
[10:55] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I could tell you how I iterated over TreeList rows, but in C
[10:55] <mkarnicki> however, you've got the solution already :)
[10:56] <mkarnicki> beuno: yo, could you test a lil thing on AndroidU1 for me?
[10:57] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: i might take you  up on that some day :)
[10:57] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I'll be happy to help :)
[11:48] <alex_> hi
[11:52] <alex_> HELLO!!!!
[11:55] <mkarnicki> alex_: just ask your question, don't expect everybody will say hi, there's too many of us to say hi at once ;)
[11:55] <alex_> oh
[11:55] <alex_> sorry
[11:55] <mkarnicki> alex_: np ;)
[11:55] <alex_> will it auto sync my stuff?
[11:56] <mkarnicki> alex_: will what? Ubuntu One?
[11:56] <mkarnicki> alex_: what stuff?
[11:56] <mkarnicki> alex_: Ubuntu One (I presume) let's you synchronize your files among your computers using Ubuntu One
[11:57] <mkarnicki> alex_: and yes, it does that automatically, whenever you have connection availible.
[11:57] <alex_> ok thanks
[11:57] <alex_> :)
[11:58] <mkarnicki> alex_: np :) you might want to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne
[11:58] <mkarnicki> alex_: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials
[11:58] <alex_> ok thanks
[11:58] <mkarnicki> you're welcome
[11:58] <alex_> im off now then
[11:58] <alex_> thanks
[11:58] <mkarnicki> np
[12:34] <Mahjongg> Chipaca, my issue?
[12:35] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: he might of been talking about  bladernr_ issue
[12:35] <Mahjongg> oh, all right
[12:36] <duanedesign> if so Chipaca bladernr_ is suffering from bug 568453
[12:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 568453 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "[lucid beta2] Ubuntuone-syncdaemon using enormous amounts of ram (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568453
[12:36] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: everything running ok with you?
[12:39] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, I wasn't aware that if sync feature was not used, if a file is deleted from ubuntuone folder on PC A that the same file on PC B was not deleted. So for a full directory synchronization I have to put files in ubuntuone folder and choose synchronize on ubuntuone?
[12:40] <Mahjongg> I cannot see the sync on ubuntuone option in the context menu for a folder in UbuntoOne folder, though
[12:44] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: all folders in the Ubuntu ONe folder are automatically syncronized
[12:44] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: you can set any folder in your $Home to sync with Ubuntu OnE
[12:44] <Mahjongg> without copying it on the cloud?
[12:44] <duanedesign> these are called User Designated Folders (UDF)
[12:45] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: Ubuntu One autonatically copies the files to the cloud and to your other computers on your Ubuntu One account
[12:46] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: if you right-click a folder and select 'Sync With Ubuntu One' it will sync to the cloud and then to your other computers
[12:47] <Mahjongg> so if I'd like to sync a file myFile on all of my computers I can either put it in U1 folder or keep its path unchanged and choose sync on U1?
[12:47] <Mahjongg> that's the only difference?
[12:49] <Mahjongg> ?
[12:53] <duanedesign> a folder yes, not a file
[12:54] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: you can sync any folder in your Home directory
[12:54] <duanedesign> but yes you can either put it in U1 folder or make it a UDF by right-clicking and selecting sync with U1
[12:55] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, I see. Then now please help my actualy problem. I have erroneously chosen to make a very private folder UDF
[12:55] <Mahjongg> and it is a very large folder
[12:55] <Mahjongg> larger than 2GB which I have
[12:56] <Mahjongg> now I can see it's directory structure on the cloud website
[12:56] <Mahjongg> I do not see the files though
[12:56] <Mahjongg> I'd like to make sure that no copy of those files exist anywhere else than my current PC
[12:57] <Mahjongg> I see a recycle icon and an exclamation mark on those files and folders
[12:57] <Mahjongg> currently...
[13:01] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: so you would like to unsync it and delete it
[13:01] <duanedesign> delete it from the cloud
[13:01] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, can I unsync it before initial sync finishes?
[13:02] <Mahjongg> because I believe it might still be copying files to cloud or my other PCs which are on
[13:02] <duanedesign> Mahjongg:
[13:02] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: open a Terminal
[13:03] <duanedesign> and run the command:   u1sdtool --list-folders
[13:03] <duanedesign> note the ID that is used by new UDF(User Designated Folder)
[13:04] <duanedesign> look like this:
[13:04] <duanedesign>   id=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b1 subscribed=True path=/home/duanedesign/Photos
[13:04] <duanedesign> then run the command:
[13:04] <duanedesign> u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=$ID
[13:05] <duanedesign> where $ID is the ID from the previous command
[13:05] <duanedesign> so using the example i posted from my computer it would be: u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=7f21890b-dafb-40c5-ba97-60959c2335b1
[13:07] <Mahjongg> Folder list:
[13:07] <Mahjongg>   id=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f subscribed= path=/home/user/Teaching
[13:07] <Mahjongg> it is still listed though
[13:07] <Mahjongg> just not TRUE
[13:07] <Mahjongg> after doing unsubscribe I mean...
[13:07] <duanedesign> that is correct
[13:08] <duanedesign> means it is not syncing anymore but the folder still exists on the cloud
[13:08] <Mahjongg> ok, I'll delete them from the cloud
[13:08] <duanedesign> ok you need to do:
[13:08] <duanedesign> u1sdtool --quit
[13:09] <duanedesign> u1sdtool --start
[13:09] <Mahjongg> OK
[13:09] <duanedesign> (in new terminal, since it will not release the terminal right away) - u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID
[13:10] <duanedesign> or if the command --start is finished you can do it  in same terminal
[13:11] <duanedesign> so: u1sdtool --delete-folder=1ef96da5-30e2-4357-a74d-6daf41b9c77f
[13:11] <Mahjongg> --delete-folder does not delte the actual folder but just its reference in U1, right?
[13:11] <duanedesign> it will not delete the folder on your hard drive
[13:11] <Mahjongg> OK
[13:11] <duanedesign> just the folder on the cloud
[13:12] <duanedesign> so you wont see it at https://one.ubuntu.com/files anymore
[13:12] <duanedesign> after the delete command: u1sdtool --connect
[13:12] <Mahjongg> delete is still working...
[13:12] <duanedesign> ok
[13:17] <mkarnicki> ⢁)
[13:17] <mkarnicki> (funkyHat reminded me how to input unicode :D)
[13:22] <Mahjongg> still working...
[13:22] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, can I see the files in UDF folders on cloud website?
[13:24] <Mahjongg> it appears like only the tree structure is shown of UDF folders
[13:24] <Mahjongg> I am trying to understand if that is due to UDF sync has never finished
[13:24] <Mahjongg> or not
[13:31] <mkarnicki> CardinalFang: ping
[13:33] <duanedesign> mayes your UDFs should be visible at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/
[13:33] <duanedesign> Mahjongg:^^
[13:33] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, I just see the folder structure there
[13:33] <Mahjongg> not the files
[13:33] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: if you see the folders and not the files it may still be uploading. It does the metadata first
[13:34] <Mahjongg> OK, then it is possible that my student related files never left my laptop?
[13:36] <duanedesign> yes.
[13:39] <Mahjongg> when u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID finishes do I have to delete files from other PCs as well(if any of the files were copied at all) or does the U1 system takes care of that
[13:43] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, ^^
[13:47] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, still working, do you think it will take that much time? or may be it is hung>
[14:15] <duanedesign> rye: hello
[14:15] <rye> duanedesign, hi!
[14:15] <duanedesign> rye: when doing "Accidentally added an UDF, how to remove it fast"
[14:16] <duanedesign> it is hanging at that point -->u1sdtool --delete-folder=$ID
[14:16] <duanedesign> hh i see
[14:17] <duanedesign> you open a new terminal and run: u1sdtool --connect
[14:17] <Shezif> Hi!
[14:17] <Shezif> How do I connect between ubuntuone contacts and evolution?
[14:17] <duanedesign> Shezif: currently the contact syn is disabled
[14:17] <duanedesign> Shezif: you can get the latest on the status of the services at:
[14:18] <Shezif> And do you know witch time it will be back  ?
[14:18] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[14:18] <Shezif> thanks
[14:18] <duanedesign> Shezif: there are also tutorials to help get it all setup for when it does come back on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials
[14:19] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: can you open a seperate terminal and run the command: u1sdtool --connect
[14:19] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, trying now
[14:20] <Shezif> Is ubuntuone can work under Debian  ?
[14:24] <om26er> where to move bugs related to ubuntu one website?
[14:24] <om26er> which lp project?
[14:25] <Mahjongg> duanedesign, --connect did it, thank you so much
[14:25] <duanedesign> Mahjongg: ok, great
[14:25] <duanedesign> om26er: that would be - ubuntuone-server
[14:26] <duanedesign> Shezif: it could work under Debian. Just not sure how much work it would be
[14:27] <duanedesign> om26er: sorry that is : ubuntuone-servers
[14:27] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+filebug
[14:27] <om26er> duanedesign, yes done. thanks :)
[14:27] <duanedesign> ;)
[14:27] <Shezif> duanedesign, thank you sir :)
[14:28] <duanedesign> Shezif: i think someone is working on that...
[14:29] <Shezif> I'm very interesting to upgrade my ubuntuone plane to the 50 GB ... But before I'll do that I'm just what to sure that I can connect to my ubuntuone from my debian
[14:34] <duanedesign> Shezif: you can always get files from the web interface on Non-Ubuntu computers
[14:34] <Shezif> yes//
[15:07] <djan37> hi
[15:07] <djan37> is there a problem with ubuntu one?
[15:13] <mkarnicki> djan37: depends what you're asking about, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[15:13] <duanedesign> djan37: hello
[15:13] <duanedesign> hi mkarnicki
[15:13] <mkarnicki> hi duanedesign :)
[15:14]  * mkarnicki has nice application pickers for picking file for upload to U1
[15:14] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: didnt see you at first. Your nick is the same color as the join/parts in my IRC client
[15:14] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: :D hahah, is that my fault? :D
[15:14] <djan37> "Ubuntu One Preferences" dialog says "disconnected"
[15:15] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: should he try u1sdtool -c ?
[15:15] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: no, it is my nick color script
[15:16] <mkarnicki> djan37: try in concole: u1sdtool --connect
[15:16] <mkarnicki> djan37: and paste here output of u1sdtool --status
[15:16] <djan37> State: ROOT_MISMATCH     connection: With User With Network     description: local and server roots are different     is_connected: False     is_error: True     is_online: False     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[15:16] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: time to fix it, I don't want to be overlooked ^_^ ⢁)
[15:17] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: ^ ROOT_MISMATCH - should he/she remove the device and add it again?
[15:18] <duanedesign> djan37: root mismatch ok
[15:18] <duanedesign> let me openn my notes
[15:19] <djan37> totday, i maded a new account, add my computer again
[15:20] <djan37> i maded a new account because the old one doesn't synchronize
[15:20] <djan37> but now it doesnt still work :)
[15:21] <duanedesign> djan37: ok that might be it
[15:21] <duanedesign> ROOT MISMATCH happens when you have left over metadata from another user
[15:23] <bladernr_> duanedesign:  Just saw your message in the back log... I'm uploading a tarball of the logs directory now (it's gzipped down to about 80MB)
[15:23] <duanedesign> djan37: if you open this file:   gedit ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[15:23] <duanedesign> does it look similar to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36307190/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[15:24] <bladernr_> duanedesign:  I also (during that run) ran the syncdaemon directly from CLI with --debug set and tee'd it to a master log file (that is the one thats a few hundred MB in size), I can add that too if you want, but I was under the impression that the debug logs in the log directory contain the same data in smaller sizes...
[15:24] <duanedesign> bladernr_: ok. I think someone with a more detailed knowledge of syncdaemon is going to look at that report for you
[15:24] <djan37> syncdaemon-exception.log is an empty file
[15:24] <bladernr_> duanedesign:  cool.  thanks for all the help, by the way.
[15:25] <duanedesign> bladernr_: no problem. Hope it gets sorted out quickly
[15:28]  * mkarnicki needs a developer phone; if it goes like that long, I'll kill my battery
[15:28] <duanedesign> djan37: ok you need to follow the FAQ here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/778
[15:30] <duanedesign> The bug report for that issue is  bug 490988
[15:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 490988 in ubuntuone-client "Lot of MakeDir and MakeFile failures because of root mismatch (affects: 9) (dups: 5) (heat: 26)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490988
[15:30] <djan37> ok i follow the FAQ (is it a problem if Bookmarks and Contacts are out of service? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status)
[15:32] <duanedesign> djan37: no the bookmarks and contacts are not affected so much as the file sync in that bug
[15:33] <duanedesign> the information in ~/Ubuntu One  and ~/.local/share/ubuntuone  do not match up with information on the server
[15:33] <duanedesign> it happens sometimes when a new user is created in an old non-cleaned structure
[15:42] <djan37> thanks i think it works again
[15:43] <djan37> the files in ubuntu one folder are checked with a green "V"
[15:43] <djan37> but the "Ubuntu One" folder has no green "V"
[15:47] <djan37> i'll reboot
[15:51] <djan37> after reboot "ubuntu one" folder is synced, thanks :)
[16:06] <duanedesign> djan37:  allright \o/
[22:00] <d3bug> hey... can anyone help me with the ubuntu one setup?
[22:02] <d3bug> nm... got it... :)