[00:04] apachelogger: please advise on how to merge changelog of kdegames [00:04] ill then upload it to ppa [00:05] apart from that kdegames is doen [00:05] *done [01:38] Hi, I want to get pot (po template) files for KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6 [01:52] Hi, I want to get pot (po template) files for KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6 [03:07] blah, new libapt-pkg breaks ABI and makes libqapt throw deprecation errors :( [03:07] new beta for the ubuntu font looks nice [03:07] less blurry, more sharp [03:19] maco: seen http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/2010/07/plasma-nm-modem-sony-md300-and-more.html ? === stalcup is now known as v === v is now known as they [03:38] shadeslayer: I was talking about akonadi 1.4 which is not yet uploaded from what I have seen [03:39] crimsun: something about the pluseaudio-start-kde script things for which a report exists that is fixed in maverick but urgently needs SRUing in lucid because it essentially renders the phonon configuration module useless if used on a pulse setup [03:39] Nightrose: we'll see about stuttgart :S [03:40] shadeslayer: for merging 2 unreleased changlogs, just add the old changes to the new entry and remove the old entry (if necessary add changer identification such as [ Harald Sitter ]\n * Did break things) [03:41] JontheEchidna: gotta love libapt :S [03:56] Quintasan, shadeslayer: please make sure the states in the wiki are correct [03:56] * apachelogger goes off to bed o/ [04:14] apachelogger: ugh, may as well roll in fixes for a few others, too. sigh. === they is now known as stalcup [04:59] What's the release day for 4.5.0? [04:59] We need to decide if we're going to try and get it in before Alpha 3? [06:44] ScottK: according to kde.org, its set for the 19th. [06:44] jussi: That seems pretty far off. Thanks. [06:44] err [06:44] 14th [06:44] 4th [06:44] cripes I cant type [06:44] o read: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Release_Schedule [06:45] * jussi cries [06:46] ScottK: so 4th. [10:58] crimsun: :) [10:58] * apachelogger leaves a cookie on crimsun's desk [11:07] ScottK: we can upload a bit before to make it more suited for our freezes [11:07] we did that a couple of times already [11:07] not the best thing to do with a final release though (from a drumm roll POV) [11:11] eheheh [11:12] Quintasan: kdelibs got a wrong version no [11:16] debian/patches/security_01_CVE-2009-2702.diff [11:16] ? [11:16] KDE KSSL in kdelibs 3.5.4, 4.2.4, and 4.3 does not properly handle a '\0' character in a domain name in the Subject Alternative Name field of an X.509 certificate, which allows man-in-the-middle attackers to spoof arbitrary SSL servers via a crafted certificate issued by a legitimate Certification Authority, a related issue to CVE-2009-2408. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2702) [11:16] eh? [11:17] from the description I gather that the patch is pointless now [11:17] yet it remains [11:17] yet it applies [11:17] so either KDE did other stuff to fix the issue or there is something very wrong [11:25] Quintasan: kdepimlibs also needs to be merged [11:56] [akonadi] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100801105641-zm3vn9hk56p4ljqf * debian/changelog New upstream release. [12:09] hmmm so weird [12:09] :O [12:09] apachelogger: ssup? [12:09] is Qt 4.7 really still on beta2? [12:10] apparently my quassel core account disconnected :S [12:10] apachelogger: dude.. how do i merge kdegames changelog [12:10] you make it one [12:10] [04:41:34] shadeslayer: for merging 2 unreleased changlogs, just add the old changes to the new entry and remove the old entry (if necessary add changer identification such as [ Harald Sitter ]\n * Did break things) [12:11] hmm ok... [12:11] ohm [12:11] * apachelogger is wondering if we should publish 4.5.0 to lucid and claim it stable even though Qt 4.7b2 is used [12:14] apachelogger: do you see a quit message from me? ( in the logs ) [12:15] because i cant..... [12:15] shadeslayer: ping timeout [12:15] hmm... jefferai ^ [12:15] although a lot of people had a ping timeout around the same time [12:15] but how come it didnt re connect :P [12:16] yeah, all people on jefferai's core went into timeout ^^ [12:16] lol [12:18] apachelogger: so changelog looks like http://pastebin.com/UnfYw5nY [12:18] did we release 4.4.95 kdegames? [12:18] oh dear qwebkit needs a backport -.- [12:19] shadeslayer: no, that is why the entry said UNRELEASED [12:19] and it is also the reason the should be merged [12:19] ok then.. i think that is all good [12:22] heh.. while uploading via SFTP to ninja ppa, i dont get the amount of data uploaded [12:23] apachelogger: dude... how can you do this :P [12:23] /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk:7: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or directory [12:28] shadeslayer: what? [12:29] missing build dep on quilt for akonadi lucid [12:29] or thats what i think it is [12:29] looks like it [12:29] a bit creepy though [12:29] yeah ... [12:30] * apachelogger hates the cdbs [12:30] clearly I should have testbuilt [12:31] is that a general remark with lucid backports though? [12:31] we should mention that if so... [12:31] on the wiki page [12:32] so, should I conduct real live upgrade testing ^^ [12:37] god damn [12:38] Please. how do I block WoW from my network T_T [12:38] apachelogger: is everything done? [12:39] kdelibs got state ppa-bzr(not yet) [12:39] whatever that means [12:39] plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets [12:39] that means shadeslayer is to push the chages [12:39] plasma-addons got state ppa-bzr (w8 on edu) [12:39] without aspell [12:39] yeah ill do that after i upload kdegames [12:39] shadeslayer: I will do that [12:39] ohohohoh [12:39] apachelogger: I have retried the build yesterday [12:39] * apachelogger still needs to resync pkg-kde-tools with KDE [12:40] what is with kdeartwork? [12:40] apachelogger: do we keep a different branch for lucid packaging? [12:40] btw all of the stuff is built on older qt, we need rebuild with Qt lex uploaded [12:40] Quintasan: nope [12:40] Quintasan: no, but we really should [12:40] apachelogger: kdelibs failed [12:40] Quintasan: supposedly I need to come up with a new set of batscripts [12:40] what!! [12:40] shadeslayer: what's the status of import? [12:40] Quintasan: I noticed, needs more recent backpor to qtwebkit [12:41] Quintasan: lemme poke jelmer.. although i really shouldnt [12:41] Quintasan: you poke him [12:41] so don't do it [12:41] :P [12:41] anyone wanan do the honors of backporting qtwebkit? :P [12:41] shadeslayer: ? :P [12:41] apachelogger: I want the honor of doing pimlibs [12:41] apachelogger: yeah its currently ftbfs.. working on it [12:41] Quintasan: do you have any informatin on kdeartwork [12:41] nope [12:41] right now i need to get my noodles fixed first :P [12:42] and I imagine it is too big for me to upload [12:42] not to mention downloading [12:42] you cannot even download it Oo [12:42] kdegames uploaded [12:42] stalcup: kdeartwork? [12:42] now to work on webkit [12:43] errr [12:43] apachelogger: im working on webkitkde [12:43] apachelogger: that's what you get when you sister is a) older b) shouts all the time c) is nearer to cable d) is still playing WoW [12:43] weekends are nightmare when trying to use internet [12:43] whuz? [12:43] shadeslayer: where is webkitkde? Oo [12:44] Quintasan: ehm [12:44] Quintasan: dude [12:44] Quintasan: you are an IT geek [12:44] apachelogger: dude.. they had a new release [12:44] about a week back [12:44] the least you should be able is to reroute all your NW traffic through your machine and induce QoS [12:44] and i didnt touch it since [12:45] shadeslayer: well I would appreciate if we could get the job at hand done first before we wonder off to do other things? [12:45] im on for another 45 mins, then have to go out [12:45] well [12:45] me too [12:46] just I am here 30 mins longer ;) [12:47] Launchpad failed to process the upload path '~rohangarg/kubuntu-ninjas/ubuntu': << wth [12:47] oic [12:47] that needs to be ~kubuntu-ninjas [12:49] apachelogger: the problem is [12:49] my router is pretty damn limited [12:49] :/ [12:52] reroute through your machine! [12:53] apachelogger: upgrade on maverick is smooth [12:53] just pleasure hitting "g" in aptitude [12:53] Quintasan: upgade testing should be conducted using apt and/or kpackagekit [12:56] errrr [12:57] Riddell: around? [12:58] * apachelogger loves when kate decides to crash [12:58] Riddell: did you upload kdevplatform from my PPA ? [13:06] Uploading pkg-kde-tools_0.9.2ubuntu10_source.changes: done. [13:06] Successfully uploaded packages [13:07] * apachelogger notes that now kde qml files are processed properly \\o/ [13:07] apachelogger: btw are you backporting qtwebkit? [13:07] no [13:07] or should i [13:07] ok ill do it then [13:15] apachelogger: btw webkitkde is done :P [13:20] apachelogger: you need https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source backported right? [13:20] i have 10 mins to do it :P [13:35] apachelogger: almost [13:38] apachelogger: qtwebkit uploaded [13:44] stalcup: cool [13:44] shadeslayer: please update the wiki [13:44] if you didnt already [13:47] shadeslayer, Quintasan: if you get a second, please check that everything requires akonadistuff >= 1.4 [13:59] JontheEchidna: Hi! [13:59] ximion: hello [13:59] do you have time to look at the oxygen-molecule package agein? [13:59] ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/oxygen-molecule ) [14:01] ximion: I'm actually at a hotel now and will have to get ready to go again in a few minutes, but I'll try to look at it tonight [14:01] JontheEchidna: I finally reached upstream over his e-mail adress (I first only tried it via OpenDesktop), and he clearified the license stuff and gave me some background information about the theme. [14:01] okay. [14:01] I'm sure that some of the other kubuntu guys would be happy to revu :) [14:01] thanks for your work on the package [14:01] JontheEchidna: I'll be on holiday for two weeks starting on wednesday, so I can't look at the package then. [14:02] packaging themes is really easy :-P [14:02] thanks! [14:02] :P [14:03] Btw: Is someone of working on a Qt implementation of the Ubuntu Software center? [14:04] ximion: id like to.. but i dont see any point... [14:04] I plan to start on one for 11.04 after Muon gets a stable release, but I've not started yet [14:04] JontheEchidna: USC based on Muon? [14:05] or from scratch [14:05] I started a project like this a long time ago, but then stopped working on it after Richard Hughes announced a cross-distro way of building a software-center like app. [14:05] love the new homepage [14:06] muesly: agree! it's beautiful! (kudos to the designer) [14:07] now since QApt has been created, it should be easy to create a Qt Software-Center. [14:07] ...if there are any plans, I'd like to help. [14:08] ximion: idle here and you will get to know all our plans :P [14:08] anyways.. im off [14:09] shadeslayer: I'll probably use the MuonMainWindow base class and write a custom GUI off of that [14:09] shadeslayer: I'll wait of courese :-P - bye. [14:09] ximion: I'll keep you in the loop. (But I have to go now too, bye) [14:10] bye. [14:14] could someone please sync gtk2-engines-qtcurve and kde-style-qtcurve from debian? [14:20] debfx: did you file a sync-request? [14:20] once approved, only archive admins can do those syncs [14:21] stalcup: no, but there is a syncpackage script in ubuntu-dev-tools [14:22] which allows anyone with upload privileges to sync [14:22] hrm, must be a newer addition then [14:23] or i've been away far too long :) [14:25] yeah it's only in maverick [14:26] so I take it you are looking at 59.5-1 then? [14:59] stalcup: 59.5-1? [15:11] apachelogger: retried kde4libs for lucid === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [15:19] Quintasan: kde4libs for lucid needs fix0ring [15:20] Quintasan: also can you upload webkitkde from https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental [15:56] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main pkg-kde-tools 0.9.2ubuntu8 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80] [16:02] stalcup: superseeded [16:02] bu ubuntu10 [16:02] *by [16:02] so refresh sources ;) [16:06] shadeslayer: I belive I told you that my uploading powers are limited to 0 today [16:06] :/ [16:06] why? [16:07] Quintasan: ^ [16:10] Quintasan-- for not uploading my packages to universe [16:12] shadeslayer: WoW Player inhouse [16:12] dude [16:12] universe >>>> WoW [16:12] She is near my ethernet cable [16:12] :< [16:12] anyways.. ive got freeflying to sponsor the upload then :P [16:13] * Quintasan always wanted to do something about it but never got to [16:13] I'll buy a wireless card for my pc [16:15] whee [16:15] freeflying: its built.. can you sponsor it? [16:19] well then... ill see you guys tmmrw [16:31] Any suggestions for a package for bugday? [16:32] ===/name [16:32] BAH [16:33] Anyone seen nixternal? [17:21] DarkwingDuck: nope.. but i do see him tweeting [17:22] txwikinger: hmm.. ill try to come up with something... :) [17:22] ping him then [17:22] txwikinger: KNetworkManager [17:22] :P [17:22] heh [17:26] shadeslayer: yeah, me too.. I'll get this move out of the way then sucker him in for some drinks [19:22] ah! apt-transport-https [19:24] shadeslayer: no I don't think I uploaded kdevplatform from your PPA, I think I synced from Debian [19:29] apachelogger: if translations only get mangled on i386 won't that mean amd64 and whatnot have different .desktop files than i386 and might do things differently? [19:29] ah it's not the mangling, it's the .pot generation only, that's fine [19:33] How did I ever manage to package more than one source during a release before [19:33] I am really out of shape packaging wise [19:35] dual core processor is the secret :) [19:37] Riddell: ive seen your laptop. i dont think dual core existed when you got that thing [19:37] * stalcup throws out his quad core [19:38] so artwork will be ready in two shakes [19:38] and I can start backporting [19:38] quad core might sound useful but can you really work efficiently on four things at once? I'm not convinced I want my computer to do more than I can hold in my head [19:39] ha [19:39] I keep chuckling at people who have these quad-core laptops who attempt to use them unplugged from AC. [19:39] this is a desktop tyvm [19:39] my macbook is a dualcore [19:40] i really like my desktop though, made it myself [19:40] I have six cores in /var/crash. I have six cores! [19:40] AH!!!!! holy [19:40] * stalcup bows [19:41] I'll have to dump the core to get us out of the grips of this black hole [19:41] yeah, I was trying to avoid the blatant ST reference :P [19:42] well, someone had to do it [19:42] true [19:42] i do love dolphin [19:54] hey guys [19:54] how do you like this: http://a.imageshack.us/img687/1636/whatiskubuntu.jpg [19:59] sheytan: frickin awesome [19:59] Riddell: well.. its FTBFS :P [20:00] shadeslayer thank you :) [20:00] what is FTBFS? :D [20:01] Failed to build from source :) [20:01] basically when a package fails to build [20:01] oh, ok :D [20:01] apachelogger: i might do a NMU for webkitkde to debian [20:02] so we can sync/merge that.. although i do believe that it will fail with the dh_install --missing foo [20:02] sheytan: very nice - although i would use english language and username like "kubuntu" in screenshot, also standard theme and background.. my2cents [20:02] make that --fail-missing [20:03] anyone think writing a wizard for mobile broadband in python and just having a button that launches it from knetworkmanager's config tool would be a bad way to do things? parsing xml in c++ seems ... unfriendly [20:03] sheytan: yeah try to keep it as generic as possible :) [20:04] Tscheesy it's still just a mockup, and replacing screenshots is just few minutes. I just put them these couse i had them done :) [20:04] shadeslayer ^^ :D [20:04] sheytan: btw the part in "Ready out of the box" needs some love [20:05] alternatively, is it possible to have a single c++ program where a chunk of it is in python? [20:06] shadeslayer, yep ;) === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose [20:08] maco: eh, not really unfriendly but not as nice as using Python, probably [20:09] maco: and yes, it's possible [20:09] crimsun: well knm is *already* c++ [20:09] http://www.kubuntu.org/community <- links to a german support page which doesn't exist [20:09] but writing a thing that reads xml to do the wizard in c++ is going to suck, so i want to know if i can do the logic for that piece in python [20:10] actually, none of the language support sites seem to work [20:11] muesli: that was reported yesterday on the mailing list [20:14] crimsun: do you have any links i could read on how to do that? [20:16] oh nvm. Riddell just told me about qtxml. so im going to go learn about that and do my first patch with C++ [20:16] * maco looks at knm's current code and whimpers [20:17] muesli: can you post that to kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com? [20:19] shadeslayer: maco just mentioned it was reported there already [20:19] ah ok.. i didnt see that [20:20] yeah seems neversfelde reported it [20:21] mhh [20:21] ah, the loco pages [20:21] yep [20:32] shadeslayer: neversfelde: could one of you two please pastebin me a copy of the ninja ppa dput info? [20:33] pm of course :) [20:34] stalcup: done [20:34] appreciated much! [20:35] :) [20:35] well, hmm [20:35] i tried that already [20:36] works for me [20:36] I've been trying to unborkify my system [20:43] mhh, someone wanted to talk to Debian and upstream about minitube, I cannot remember who it was? :) [20:46] and we still have with plasma-widget-cwp and plasma-widget-customizable-weather cwp twice in the archive, I forgot again to work on it [20:46] someone else wants to do it, I am not available till End of August [20:47] oh noes! [20:49] Riddell: 4.5.0 before or after Alpha 3 freeze? [20:49] after artwork is done, it will be ready [20:50] Riddell: At the release team meeting on Friday, I said we hadn't decided. [20:50] Also got dyfet to start looking at kdebindings on armel. [20:50] AFAIK, no patches yet though. [20:52] the battery applet is gone from default settings :( [20:52] taking brightness osd with it [20:54] yay! finally uploading the last package Riddell [20:54] ScottK: that is the question [20:54] mostly depends if upstream would mind [20:56] ScottK: is Sime aware of the kdebindings failure on ARM? it's in his territory [20:58] what does yellow mean on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging ? [20:59] I would assume "the stack" [20:59] or not [20:59] /me spies kdeedu [21:00] debfx: probably needs something fixed in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js [21:01] oh, it's because I removed the battery from the laptop [21:05] debfx: ah that would be it :) [21:09] Riddell: I don't know about Sime and kdebindings. dyfet indicated it looked more like a sip problem that was blowing up in kdebindings to him. [21:10] I understand NC|Alaska will be NCommander again on Monday, so maybe he'll have suggestions. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:59] I send a mail to Debian and upstream about Minitube, so whoever wanted to do it, it is not necessary anymore [23:05] yay, ppa build on i386: Start 2010-08-04 === solid_liquid is now known as solid_liq [23:08] debfx: :( [23:11] shadeslayer: is there a reason, why we dropped source format 3.0 for choqok? [23:12] and other changes === NC|Alaska is now known as NCommander [23:20] ScottK: I'm back [23:21] ScottK: its NOT a sip problem, its someone broke the special rules handling calling sip on ARM. [23:22] welcome back NCommander, how was Alaska? [23:23] Riddell: lovely. I even got an opportunity to up to the Arctic Circle and jump into the Arctic Ocean [23:26] see, it's not just me that's gets you cold and wet [23:33] Riddell: could you check package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice-l10n is it a merge or sync? [23:34] Riddell: yes, but it has a higher statistical probability of happening while your around [23:41] ari-tczew: probably a synz [23:41] ari-tczew: probably a sync [23:41] yes should be a sync [23:41] ok thanks