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MIH1406Hi, I want to get pot (po template) files for KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.601:52
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solifugus_Can anyone here me?03:15
ElenchI can see what you type03:16
ElenchIs that close enough?03:16
solifugus_This Quassel won't join #php and won't give me any error or response of any kind when I try..03:16
Elenchtry joining ##php03:16
solifugus_It also pauses sometimes.. I wasn't sure if it was working..03:16
solifugus_ok..let me try03:16
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solifugus_I do have a ##overflow channel.. but /topic just returns unknown.. lots of people there..  but nobody saying anything.. yet03:17
solifugus_nobody responded to my question asking if that's the php channel03:18
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Elench##overflow is where you get redirected when a channel is full03:18
ElenchIt isn't03:19
solifugus_ah.. that's why they are all speechless then03:19
ElenchAnd they all ended up there trying to get somewhere else03:19
ElenchIt's a general catch-all for overflow03:19
solifugus_yep.. if i delete it and try to rejoin #php, that overflow #pops up..... a place to collect all us losers, I guess..03:21
ElenchJust bad luck, not a personal judgement03:21
solifugus_I need help on how to create an odbc connection to the virtuoso database in php..03:22
solifugus_google hasn't been helpful03:22
ElenchThat looked grammatical03:22
ElenchBut i have no idea what you just said, sorry03:23
solifugus_:)03:23
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espadan7Hello all I was wondering if anyone install the PAM Face Authentication, and if anyone has got it working right yet on Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid lynx?03:55
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usuario_13109205:15
wastrelhi05:18
winmutt__i have eth0 configured for static in /etc/network/interfaces yet it keeps coming up with dhclient running, anyone know how to stop it05:37
pawanhi05:47
pawanhow to go to this directory ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers/05:47
alexicd <directory path>05:47
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers/05:49
pawanbash: cd: /home/pawan/.kde4/share/wallpapers/: No such file or directory05:49
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$05:49
alexican you cd ~/.kde405:50
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd ~/.kde405:51
pawanbash: cd: /home/pawan/.kde4: No such file or directory05:51
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$05:51
alexithis means that you don't have the ~/.kde4 directory05:52
pawanthen05:53
pawani am using kubuntu desktop05:53
pawanon ubuntu05:53
alexiwhat are you trying to do?05:53
alexithere is a /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers folder05:54
alexitry cd  /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers05:55
alexithen "ls"05:55
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd  /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers05:55
pawanbash: cd: /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers: No such file or directory05:55
alexithere is no colon after "cd"05:56
alexithis works for me.05:57
pawanwhere are wallpapers stored in kubuntu05:58
aleximine are in /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers06:00
alexitry installing some wallpaper packages.06:00
[RUS]Hello! I need help. I can't running program from Alt+F2 dialog (krunner) as a different user. (sorry for my english)06:01
[RUS]kde 4.3.5 (release 0)06:03
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Mike223Can anyone here help me get my wireless working?06:06
[RUS]bug 205229     The "run as different user" option doesn't work06:22
picard1421hey.. where can i get hte oxygen theme for logging iN>??06:41
picard1421hey what KDE version is ubuntu 10.04??06:48
well_laid_lawnfrom the topic   FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ  :]06:49
pawanhi06:56
pawanhow to add compiz to start automatically06:56
euphorialJeez. I accidentally removed the application launcher from here and I do not know how to put it back.06:56
euphorialCan someone please tell me?06:57
euphorialAnd yes I know I am an idiot. :P06:57
wastrelapplication launcher what now?07:03
wastrelyou mean the K menu?07:04
pawanhi07:06
pawanhi07:06
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euphorialwastrel, yes07:23
euphorialk menu07:23
euphorialI thought I was removing "favorites"07:23
euphorialand I removed the whole freaking K menu07:23
wastrelwell if you right-click on the panel07:23
wastrelyou can add widgets07:24
euphorialok there's two of em07:24
* euphorial slaps self07:24
euphorialcan't believe I didn't remember it was there07:24
wastrel<307:25
euphorialdamn it07:25
euphorialit added it all the way to the right07:25
euphorialhaha07:25
euphorialok07:26
euphorialI got it07:26
euphorialthanks <307:26
wastrelyay07:26
euphorial;]07:26
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scott__How do I set up my system to "build kernal modules"? (using Kubuntu 10.4 x64)13:32
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ubuntuumair ullah13:40
cenciuhi13:50
cenciuwho can find out for me which is the audio driver for an hp pavilion ze5400 .please13:51
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Misterio!english | root915:01
ubotturoot9: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat15:01
BluesKajHowdy15:45
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Mr-Bmmmm16:09
Mr-Bso this is Kubuntu! huh16:09
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James147!hi | Mr-B16:10
ubottuMr-B: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:10
Mr-BHi James14716:10
Mr-Bdoes anyone know what is the best browser for Kubuntu?16:11
Dan_LMr-B:  that all depends.16:12
James147!best | Mr-B16:12
ubottuMr-B: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:12
Dan_LMr-B:  more to the point, it all depends on your preferences16:12
Dan_LYou can get some good thoughts in #kubuntu-offtopic as well16:13
slow-motionhi16:13
Mr-Boh Thank you, but actually the Mozilla can't establish a connection to the most of regular servers..16:14
Mr-Btho i havent changed any settings in it, it simply says ' Unable to connect '16:14
Dan_LMr-B:  that doesn't sound right.16:14
Dan_LYou are using a recently downloaded Kubuntu?  Ie v 10p4?16:15
Mr-Byes, the latest16:15
Dan_LMr-B:  And it only does that with 'some' web pages, not all?16:16
Mr-BDan_L: Exactly!16:16
Dan_LHow did you install firefox?16:19
Mr-BI didnt install it, it was installed by default with the system16:20
James147Mr-B: it shouldn't be installed by default on kubuntu... (although there is a installer for it in the menus by default)16:21
Mr-Bdoes it come with Ubuntu ?16:22
James147Mr-B: ubuntu yes16:22
Dan_LMr-B:  but it should still work without much tweaking in kubuntu16:22
Dan_Ltry going to the same sites with konqueror.  see what happens.16:23
Mr-Bok I will, just a min16:23
James147Yeah, it should just work... have you tryed other browsers? Do they ahve the same problem?16:23
Mr-BNo, I havent tried any other browsers so far16:23
Mr-Bhey! it worked with Konqueror!16:24
glaucous_It seems like my Grub list is kind of not up to date. How do I make Grub reload it or something?16:24
Mr-BTahnk you guys so much!16:24
Mr-Bthank*16:24
James147glaucous_: grub2? if so run "sudo update-grub"16:25
javalioi16:26
javalinikiti ?16:26
glaucous_James147: thanks, it seems like it worked. However I don't think I have Grub2, it says version 1.9816:27
James147glaucous_: that is grub2 :)16:28
Dan_LMr-B:  that, in and of it self, is not a fix.  Let's try to figure out what's wrong with firefox.16:28
glaucous_James147: Great. Now that I looked closer it actually says "GRand Unitifed... version 2"16:29
Mr-BDan_L:  Ok.16:30
Dan_Lwhat sites don't work with it?16:30
Dan_LJust give me an example or two16:30
Mr-Bwww.kw.zain.com -- it never works with that one16:32
Mr-Blike it keeps loading for ages and then it says ' Unable to load website '16:33
Mr-Band Network Error.16:33
Dan_LIt definitely loads slow for me.  But it loads.16:35
Mr-BDo you think i have to change something in the browser preferences? like Unselecting - Use System Proxy?16:36
Dan_LMr-B:  that would be a good place to start.16:38
Dan_LBut still16:38
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Mr-BIt works properly with most of sites right now, except for Kw.Zain.com16:40
Mr-BI mean it didnt work with Facebook, but now it does load the entire site properly16:41
Dan_LI notice that kw.zain.com is an ISP.  Do you use them?16:41
Mr-BI work for Zain, but it's not my ISP16:42
BluesKajMr-B, try chromium or google-chrome, they work fine as well16:53
BluesKajBBL17:02
glaucousIn Autostart, is it possible to delay running a command? For instance I'd like to start a program 20-30 seconds after boot.17:39
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VesPeace-glaucous: mmm17:40
VesPeace-what command17:40
glaucousVesPeace-: jackd server17:40
James147glaucous: creat17:40
VesPeace-maybe pkilll jackd && sleep 10 && jackd17:40
James147glaucous: add "sleep 30;" to the start of the command17:41
glaucoussleep 30 && jackd? James147, VesPeace-17:41
VesPeace-that should work17:41
glaucousVesPeace-: James147: sleep 30 &&, and sleep 30; both work17:42
glaucousthanks17:42
VesPeace-:)17:43
Khaoticbrb upgrading ram17:58
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tntcI'm trying to watch video over sftp/fish, but Kaffiene doesn't seem to know what to do with a video that's not local.  I keep getting a "no input plugin for MRL sftp://<hostname>/<file>" or "fish://<hostname>/<file>", but when I copy <file> to the local machine, it plays fine.18:45
tntcIs there a way around this?18:46
tntcI mean, what the heck is the point of KIO slaves if the only KDE programs they work in are file managers?18:46
caseydont want sleep monde in 10.4 how to turn it off18:49
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vbgunzreddit is down. what do I do now?19:13
vbgunzmust google what to do19:13
JustinTheTerriblI have no sound please help19:17
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brianHello20:49
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SleepwlkerWhatsup guys?20:50
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MichealHHow do you install themes in Kubuntu?21:24
James147MichealH: depends on waht themes you are talking about21:26
MichealHThe window buttons and decoration21:26
MichealHAlso the Qt theme21:26
MichealHJames147, ^^21:27
James147MichealH: find one you like on kde-look.org... it should tell you how to install it21:30
MichealHOkay21:30
MichealHI was asking for a generic way21:30
MichealHIs there a genericway21:30
MichealHJames147, A theme i sawon KED look doesnt provide instrustions :S21:35
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SleepwlkerYou guys know what needs to be developed21:38
SleepwlkerA Kubuntu like Mobile operating system21:38
SleepwlkerThat would be legit21:38
MichealHI found out you usally install them by ./configure make then make install21:39
SleepwlkerAlso, we need some freedom toasters in the U.S.21:41
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SleepwlkerWhy is this iRC so inactive? Sadface.21:44
MichealHSleepwlker, You mean :(21:45
DarthFrogWhy?  Because many folks have it open but are actually out flying kites or enjoying the weekend.21:45
MichealHDarthFrog, Im not21:45
DarthFrogOr playing Starcraft 2. :-)21:45
SleepwlkerLol21:45
MichealHI have a holiday21:45
SleepwlkerDoes SC2 work on WINE?21:45
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DarthFrogMichealH: It's a long weekend up here in Canuckistan.21:45
SleepwlkerYou mean Canadia21:46
DarthFrogSleepwlker: From what I learned yesterday, yes it does.21:46
MichealHDoyou installthemes by .configure , make then make install?21:46
MichealH*./configure21:46
DarthFrogSleepwlker: www.winehq.org has an AppDB that covers it.21:46
SleepwlkerThats pretty sweet21:46
SleepwlkerThat adds another major game that can work on Linux21:47
Sleepwlkerbut how well does it run?21:47
SleepwlkerI only have 512 MB of RAM21:47
SleepwlkerI was able to get WoW started on WINE21:47
MichealHCan anyone answer my Question21:47
Sleepwlkerbut it was ridiculously slow21:47
Sleepwlkerlike 1 FPS lol21:47
MichealHSleepwlker, I would get 1FP2S21:47
MichealH(1 Frame per 2 seconds)21:47
SleepwlkerLol21:48
SleepwlkerHow much RAM you got?21:48
Sleepwlker256?21:48
MichealH1.5 GB21:48
SleepwlkerShitty GFX card then?21:48
SleepwlkerOr wut?21:48
MichealHYes21:48
SleepwlkerMy GFX card is like21:48
MichealHSiS Mirage 3 Graphics21:48
Sleepwlker~6 years old21:48
DarthFrogUmm, guys, there's no point in playing a demanding 3D game on a machine that isn't set up for gaming. :-)21:48
FloodBotK3Sleepwlker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:48
SleepwlkerOh yes there is21:48
SleepwlkerBecause it's Linux21:48
Sleepwlkerand Linux needs to be > Windows21:49
DarthFrogIf you say so.21:49
MichealHWindows Rox!21:49
* MichealH hides21:49
SleepwlkerAnd Windows > Shit > Mass Murderers > Mac21:49
SleepwlkerTherefore Linux > Mac21:49
DarthFrogNo one OS will be the best in everything.  Keep in mind, it's a tool, not a religious choice.21:49
SleepwlkerEh21:49
SleepwlkerFor now21:49
SleepwlkerBut I think in the future21:50
SleepwlkerWe will see a new distro of linux21:50
Sleepwlkergeared towards gaming21:50
FloodBotK3Sleepwlker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:50
MichealHOMG!Flood21:50
SleepwlkerLol, the floodbot really hates me21:50
DarthFrogNo, it doesn't.21:50
DarthFrogLike Jessica Rabbit, it's just coded that way. :-)21:50
MichealHSleepwlker, Do I install themes by ./configure make then make install?21:50
MichealHIn a terminal21:51
Sleepwlker<FloodBotK3> Sleepwlker: Please don't flood.  Next time I will format your hard drive.21:51
DarthFrogMichealH: Download the theme and read the README file.21:51
SleepwlkerI've never installed a theme21:51
MichealHOh21:51
SleepwlkerI just used the default ones that came with my distro21:51
MichealHBut is that the generic way?21:51
MichealHOxygen looks *rubbish*21:51
Sleepwlkerhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+themes+on+kubuntu21:52
MichealHSleepwlker, OMG~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:52
SleepwlkerWut?21:52
MichealHOOOOOOOMMMMMGGGGG!21:52
MichealH You google saeched for me?21:53
Sleepwlkerohyeah21:53
MichealHlolololololololololololollolololololollo21:53
DarthFrogWell, we're discouraged from telling you to Google it yourself. :-)21:53
DarthFrogUndt zo I tend to not respond to questions that are easily answered by a Google search.21:53
SleepwlkerYeah21:54
SleepwlkerBut we do have to answer them every now and then21:54
Sleepwlkerotherwise we might scare away potential new users21:54
Sleepwlkerand we don't want to do that, now do we21:54
DarthFrogGenerally by doing the Google search for them.21:54
SleepwlkerPretty much lol21:54
SleepwlkerBut we all gotta start somewhere21:54
Sleepwlkerand sometimes it does help to have a more experienced user translate some of the more advanced instructions for us21:55
SleepwlkerI'm pretty new to Linux myself21:55
MichealHSleepwlker, You solved it (Sota!)21:55
DarthFrogI'm of two minds about that.  I'll toe the Canonical/Ubuntu party line.  But I'm not sure that anyone who's not willing to do the least amount of work should be running Linux.21:55
SleepwlkerGot it abouta  month ago, so I'm not really that pro yet21:55
MichealHSleepwlker, I have has 1 year of GNOME and I want to try KDE for 1 year ish21:55
DarthFrogSleepwlker: Yeah, but you're coming along nicely. :-)21:55
SleepwlkerNow that I think about it21:56
SleepwlkerMy theme is pretty bland21:56
Sleepwlkermaybe I should get http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plumbum+%28+QtCurve+%29?content=12802021:56
Sleepwlkerthat looks pretty legit21:56
DarthFrogMichealH: KDE will allow you to do much more than GNOME will but you don't have to do anything if the defaults are OK for you.21:56
MichealHSleepwlker, I found an answer21:56
SleepwlkerSee, google does have the answer to all of life's problems21:57
MichealHEven 42! ;)21:57
DarthFrogBoth GNOME and KDE will run each others apps.21:57
MichealH:D Horay!21:57
DarthFrogSo the choice between GNOME and KDE truly is nothing more than personal choice.  Except that Ubuntu enhancements tend to be GNOME only.  KDE is somewhat of the red-headed stepchild of Ubuntu.21:58
DarthFrogUnfortunately.21:58
MichealHThe thing driving me away from KDE is its lack of Themeability21:59
MichealHI dontlike running something ugly21:59
MichealHEVAR!21:59
DarthFrogWhich doesn't matter to me.  I've been running KDE since v. 1, before GNOME was even a wet dream of Miguel's.21:59
DarthFrogMichealH: Lack of themeability?  KDE is themeable up the ying-yang!21:59
DarthFrogConfigurabilty is very much KDE's strong suit.22:00
MichealHDarthFrog, Well Its lack of Installing themes to newbies22:00
SleepwlkerWhat do you want to theme exactly22:00
SleepwlkerThe colorscheme22:00
Sleepwlkercause that is easy to change22:00
MichealHIf u get what I mean22:00
DarthFrogMichealH: Have you explored System Settings?22:00
MichealHSleepwlker, I did that before22:00
MichealHDarthFrog, Yes and No22:00
DarthFrogMichealH: GNOME is very much like HAL in 2001:  I'm sorry, I can't allow you to do that.22:01
DarthFrogKDE is: OK, Boss, what shall we do now?22:01
MichealHDarthFrog, I think you are referring to Vista ;)22:01
DarthFrogI've never run Vista.22:01
MichealHLol22:01
MichealHI have Win 722:02
MichealHon Laptop22:02
MichealHUbuntu on Desktop22:02
MichealHPerfect setup :)22:02
DarthFrogI have Win7 but don't use it.  I use Kubuntu for almost everything.22:02
SleepwlkerI have Kubuntu on my desktop22:03
Sleepwlkerand I have a Windows XP 60 GB HardDrive in my closet22:03
Sleepwlkerincase I ever need that shit again22:03
Sleepwlkerplus my Windows XP startup discs22:03
MichealHlol22:03
MichealHI think I will love here22:03
pingvenoI have Kubuntu on my laptop, Arch on my home server, and Windows 7 dual booting with the laptop.22:04
MichealHSleepwlker, You flooder :O OMG! LOL! ROFL! ROFLMAO!22:04
Sleepwlker!floodbot22:04
ubottuFloodBot1,2,3, and 4 are all bots, please direct your questions to the channel.22:04
SleepwlkerD:22:04
MichealHlol22:05
Aranel[Newbie Question] My friend needs help about his ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (HP DV6 1144ET) on Kubuntu Lucid. Binary one freezes when watching video, opensource driver works well with videos but worst 3d acceleration. Can any ATi user here help us? :)22:05
DarthFrogSleepwlker: Have you read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?22:07
SleepwlkerI don't play by the rules22:07
SleepwlkerBut no, I haven't read them22:08
DarthFrog!coc22:08
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .22:08
SleepwlkerAwww22:09
SleepwlkerI don't wanna be respectful22:09
DarthFrogAranel: I have an ATI card (5770) and am running the binary drivers.  It works well with video so the issue must be with his card.22:09
DarthFrogSleepwlker: What we want and what we have to do, don't always co-incide.  It's all part of growing up and being British. :-)  Even if you're not British!22:10
MichealHSee you22:10
SleepwlkerD:22:10
SleepwlkerI don't wanna be British22:10
SleepwlkerEspecially if I have to get one of those funny accents22:10
MichealHSleepwlker, Im Brittish22:10
MichealHIts 10PM here22:10
SleepwlkerSee22:11
MichealHIts me, A 13 year old signing off for now22:11
SleepwlkerI hate saying22:11
Sleepwlker"I'm American"22:11
Sleepwlkerbecause the United States is not the entirety of America22:11
MichealHSee you22:11
AranelDarthFrog: hmm any idea how to fix this problem? Its also broken on Ubuntu too.22:11
DarthFrogAranel: Ubuntu & Kubuntu are the same, but for the desktop interface.  The issue will be with his particular card and the driver.22:12
SleepwlkerThats another key weakness to Linux22:12
Sleepwlkerthe lack of good drivers for commercial products22:13
SleepwlkerI have a wireless N Adapter made by Engenius22:13
Sleepwlkerbut it is not currently supported by Linux22:13
DarthFrogAranel: Is there anything logged in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?22:13
SleepwlkerOnly my Wireless G is22:13
SleepwlkerD:22:13
AranelDarthFrog: yeah I know that, but asking him to change his card (which is not 10-years old card) just for starting to use GNU/Linux would be unhelpful.22:13
AranelDarthFrog: wait a minute, asking him.22:13
SleepwlkerHas he tried rebooting the computer?22:13
SleepwlkerIt may seem obvious22:13
SleepwlkerBut many technical problems can be solved by a simple reboot22:14
SleepwlkerAnd often it is the last thing you think of22:14
DarthFrogAranel: He doesn't have to change his card.  Just change his driver. :-)22:14
AranelSleepwlker: yeah he tried it at least 5 times, with different drivers.22:14
idzisiemano!22:15
idzipomoże mi ktoś krok po kroku wyjebac własnościowe stery ati i zainstalować wolne???!!! KUBUNTU22:15
DarthFrogAranel: Which opensource driver has he tried?22:15
DarthFrog!pl | idzi22:15
ubottuidzi: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.22:15
SleepwlkerIdzi22:16
idzi???22:16
SleepwlkerI don't speak whatever language it is you are speaking22:16
AranelDarthFrog: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver22:16
SleepwlkerIf you can understand English22:16
idzii can speak english22:16
SleepwlkerMost of the people here speak English22:16
SleepwlkerYay22:17
SleepwlkerThats better lol22:17
AranelDarthFrog: he switched to this from the one released on ATi's website22:17
DarthFrogAranel: has he tried the radeonhd driver?22:17
idzii just wat that someone help me remove ati drivers and help install free drivers22:17
AranelDarthFrog: radeonhd? maybe he didnt..22:17
DarthFrog!ati | idzi22:18
ubottuidzi: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:18
DarthFrogidzi: You can also see the link that Aranel posted above.22:18
AranelDarthFrog: isn't it the same as one released on ATi's website?22:18
idziradeon x120022:18
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AranelDarthFrog: here's the log file: http://pastebin.com/BzaBZ8Ab with lots of (WW) s, warnings i guess.22:20
DarthFrogAranel: no.  the fglrx drivers are the ATI proprietary ones.  the radeon and radeonhd drivers are open source.22:20
DarthFrogAranel: What program is he using to watch videos?22:21
AranelDarthFrog: he tried Kaffeine, VLC, SMPlayer and gnome-player on  Kubuntu and Ubuntu22:21
DarthFrogAranel: he's got problems:  (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work22:21
DarthFrogThat has to be fixed.  Likely his problems will go away when that does.22:22
DarthFrogAranel: Is he running the fglrx drivers from Kubuntu?  or from ATI?22:23
AranelDarthFrog: :) so there's still hope. Now he's running RadeonDriver. But he was using the ATI ones.22:23
AranelDarthFrog: he tried Kubuntu default driver too, video freezes was same.22:23
DarthFrogMy advice is to just run the ones provided by Kubuntu.22:24
DarthFrogDid he have  hardware-accelerated 3D with them?22:24
AranelDarthFrog: yes 3D was working good enough22:24
DarthFrogWell, the current drivers aren't installed properly.22:24
AranelDarthFrog: so you think that he should install again? but which one?22:26
AranelDarthFrog: radeon,radeonhd or ATi?22:26
DarthFrogWhich is more important to him:  video or 3D?  Install the one that provides that.22:26
AranelDarthFrog: He watches lots of videos -mostly anime- so  video is important, but surely he's gonna use it for 3D too.22:27
AranelDarthFrog: so I think both. :P22:27
DarthFrogThen pick the one that provides both. :-)  If it exists. :-)22:27
DarthFrogMy guess is that the official Kubuntu ATI fglrx drivers will be his best bet.22:28
DarthFrogThey work just tickety-boo for me.22:28
AranelDarthFrog: he tried them first, after those video issues I asked him to switch to ATi ones and RadeonDriver.22:31
AranelDarthFrog: anyway thanks for your help :)22:31
DarthFrogAranel: You're welcome.   Though I didn't really help much, sorry.22:31
AranelDarthFrog: Nope you helped us great :)) I think its his fault buying an ATi product, which known as no-go for a Linux computer.22:32
DarthFrogAranel: Right now, I think he's still got some of the old drivers hanging around and interfering.  Which is likely why he has a kernel/driver conflict.22:32
DarthFrogActually, ATI is a very good choice now for Linux.22:33
AranelI think It will be a very good choice in near future, because of its opensource drivers, but it's not good enough for production environments today. at least not this one :)22:34
DarthFrogThat may be true, he may have a bum card.  But it's not universally true.  I have an ATI 5770 card and it runs great in Linux.22:34
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