[01:52] <MIH1406> Hi, I want to get pot (po template) files for KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6
[03:15] <solifugus_> Can anyone here me?
[03:16] <Elench> I can see what you type
[03:16] <Elench> Is that close enough?
[03:16] <solifugus_> This Quassel won't join #php and won't give me any error or response of any kind when I try..
[03:16] <Elench> try joining ##php
[03:16] <solifugus_> It also pauses sometimes.. I wasn't sure if it was working..
[03:16] <solifugus_> ok..let me try
[03:17] <solifugus_> I do have a ##overflow channel.. but /topic just returns unknown.. lots of people there..  but nobody saying anything.. yet
[03:18] <solifugus_> nobody responded to my question asking if that's the php channel
[03:18] <Elench> ##overflow is where you get redirected when a channel is full
[03:19] <Elench> It isn't
[03:19] <solifugus_> ah.. that's why they are all speechless then
[03:19] <Elench> And they all ended up there trying to get somewhere else
[03:19] <Elench> It's a general catch-all for overflow
[03:21] <solifugus_> yep.. if i delete it and try to rejoin #php, that overflow #pops up..... a place to collect all us losers, I guess..
[03:21] <Elench> Just bad luck, not a personal judgement
[03:22] <solifugus_> I need help on how to create an odbc connection to the virtuoso database in php..
[03:22] <solifugus_> google hasn't been helpful
[03:22] <Elench> That looked grammatical
[03:23] <Elench> But i have no idea what you just said, sorry
[03:23] <solifugus_> :)
[03:55] <espadan7> Hello all I was wondering if anyone install the PAM Face Authentication, and if anyone has got it working right yet on Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid lynx?
[05:15] <usuario_> 131092
[05:18] <wastrel> hi
[05:37] <winmutt__> i have eth0 configured for static in /etc/network/interfaces yet it keeps coming up with dhclient running, anyone know how to stop it
[05:47] <pawan> hi
[05:47] <pawan> how to go to this directory ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers/
[05:47] <alexi> cd <directory path>
[05:49] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers/
[05:49] <pawan> bash: cd: /home/pawan/.kde4/share/wallpapers/: No such file or directory
[05:49] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$
[05:50] <alexi> can you cd ~/.kde4
[05:51] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd ~/.kde4
[05:51] <pawan> bash: cd: /home/pawan/.kde4: No such file or directory
[05:51] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$
[05:52] <alexi> this means that you don't have the ~/.kde4 directory
[05:53] <pawan> then
[05:53] <pawan> i am using kubuntu desktop
[05:53] <pawan> on ubuntu
[05:53] <alexi> what are you trying to do?
[05:54] <alexi> there is a /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers folder
[05:55] <alexi> try cd  /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers
[05:55] <alexi> then "ls"
[05:55] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd  /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers
[05:55] <pawan> bash: cd: /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers: No such file or directory
[05:56] <alexi> there is no colon after "cd"
[05:57] <alexi> this works for me.
[05:58] <pawan> where are wallpapers stored in kubuntu
[06:00] <alexi> mine are in /usr/share/kde4/wallpapers
[06:00] <alexi> try installing some wallpaper packages.
[06:01] <[RUS]> Hello! I need help. I can't running program from Alt+F2 dialog (krunner) as a different user. (sorry for my english)
[06:03] <[RUS]> kde 4.3.5 (release 0)
[06:06] <Mike223> Can anyone here help me get my wireless working?
[06:22] <[RUS]> bug 205229     The "run as different user" option doesn't work
[06:41] <picard1421> hey.. where can i get hte oxygen theme for logging iN>??
[06:48] <picard1421> hey what KDE version is ubuntu 10.04??
[06:49] <well_laid_lawn> from the topic   FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ  :]
[06:56] <pawan> hi
[06:56] <pawan> how to add compiz to start automatically
[06:56] <euphorial> Jeez. I accidentally removed the application launcher from here and I do not know how to put it back.
[06:57] <euphorial> Can someone please tell me?
[06:57] <euphorial> And yes I know I am an idiot. :P
[07:03] <wastrel> application launcher what now?
[07:04] <wastrel> you mean the K menu?
[07:06] <pawan> hi
[07:06] <pawan> hi
[07:23] <euphorial> wastrel, yes
[07:23] <euphorial> k menu
[07:23] <euphorial> I thought I was removing "favorites"
[07:23] <euphorial> and I removed the whole freaking K menu
[07:23] <wastrel> well if you right-click on the panel
[07:24] <wastrel> you can add widgets
[07:24] <euphorial> ok there's two of em
[07:24]  * euphorial slaps self
[07:24] <euphorial> can't believe I didn't remember it was there
[07:25] <wastrel> <3
[07:25] <euphorial> damn it
[07:25] <euphorial> it added it all the way to the right
[07:25] <euphorial> haha
[07:26] <euphorial> ok
[07:26] <euphorial> I got it
[07:26] <euphorial> thanks <3
[07:26] <wastrel> yay
[07:26] <euphorial> ;]
[09:45] <tony_> irc
[13:32] <scott__> How do I set up my system to "build kernal modules"? (using Kubuntu 10.4 x64)
[13:40] <ubuntu> umair ullah
[13:50] <cenciu> hi
[13:51] <cenciu> who can find out for me which is the audio driver for an hp pavilion ze5400 .please
[15:00] <root7> الوو
[15:01] <root9> الو
[15:01] <root9> الوو
[15:01] <Misterio> !english | root9
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[16:09] <Mr-B> mmmm
[16:09] <Mr-B> so this is Kubuntu! huh
[16:10] <James147> !hi | Mr-B
[16:10] <Mr-B> Hi James147
[16:11] <Mr-B> does anyone know what is the best browser for Kubuntu?
[16:12] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  that all depends.
[16:12] <James147> !best | Mr-B
[16:12] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  more to the point, it all depends on your preferences
[16:13] <Dan_L> You can get some good thoughts in #kubuntu-offtopic as well
[16:13] <slow-motion> hi
[16:14] <Mr-B> oh Thank you, but actually the Mozilla can't establish a connection to the most of regular servers..
[16:14] <Mr-B> tho i havent changed any settings in it, it simply says ' Unable to connect '
[16:14] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  that doesn't sound right.
[16:15] <Dan_L> You are using a recently downloaded Kubuntu?  Ie v 10p4?
[16:15] <Mr-B> yes, the latest
[16:16] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  And it only does that with 'some' web pages, not all?
[16:16] <Mr-B> Dan_L: Exactly!
[16:19] <Dan_L> How did you install firefox?
[16:20] <Mr-B> I didnt install it, it was installed by default with the system
[16:21] <James147> Mr-B: it shouldn't be installed by default on kubuntu... (although there is a installer for it in the menus by default)
[16:22] <Mr-B> does it come with Ubuntu ?
[16:22] <James147> Mr-B: ubuntu yes
[16:22] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  but it should still work without much tweaking in kubuntu
[16:23] <Dan_L> try going to the same sites with konqueror.  see what happens.
[16:23] <Mr-B> ok I will, just a min
[16:23] <James147> Yeah, it should just work... have you tryed other browsers? Do they ahve the same problem?
[16:23] <Mr-B> No, I havent tried any other browsers so far
[16:24] <Mr-B> hey! it worked with Konqueror!
[16:24] <glaucous_> It seems like my Grub list is kind of not up to date. How do I make Grub reload it or something?
[16:24] <Mr-B> Tahnk you guys so much!
[16:24] <Mr-B> thank*
[16:25] <James147> glaucous_: grub2? if so run "sudo update-grub"
[16:26] <javali> oi
[16:26] <javali> nikiti ?
[16:27] <glaucous_> James147: thanks, it seems like it worked. However I don't think I have Grub2, it says version 1.98
[16:28] <James147> glaucous_: that is grub2 :)
[16:28] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  that, in and of it self, is not a fix.  Let's try to figure out what's wrong with firefox.
[16:29] <glaucous_> James147: Great. Now that I looked closer it actually says "GRand Unitifed... version 2"
[16:30] <Mr-B> Dan_L:  Ok.
[16:30] <Dan_L> what sites don't work with it?
[16:30] <Dan_L> Just give me an example or two
[16:32] <Mr-B> www.kw.zain.com -- it never works with that one
[16:33] <Mr-B> like it keeps loading for ages and then it says ' Unable to load website '
[16:33] <Mr-B> and Network Error.
[16:35] <Dan_L> It definitely loads slow for me.  But it loads.
[16:36] <Mr-B> Do you think i have to change something in the browser preferences? like Unselecting - Use System Proxy?
[16:38] <Dan_L> Mr-B:  that would be a good place to start.
[16:38] <Dan_L> But still
[16:40] <Mr-B> It works properly with most of sites right now, except for Kw.Zain.com
[16:41] <Mr-B> I mean it didnt work with Facebook, but now it does load the entire site properly
[16:41] <Dan_L> I notice that kw.zain.com is an ISP.  Do you use them?
[16:42] <Mr-B> I work for Zain, but it's not my ISP
[16:53] <BluesKaj> Mr-B, try chromium or google-chrome, they work fine as well
[17:02] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:39] <glaucous> In Autostart, is it possible to delay running a command? For instance I'd like to start a program 20-30 seconds after boot.
[17:40] <VesPeace-> glaucous: mmm
[17:40] <VesPeace-> what command
[17:40] <glaucous> VesPeace-: jackd server
[17:40] <James147> glaucous: creat
[17:40] <VesPeace-> maybe pkilll jackd && sleep 10 && jackd
[17:41] <James147> glaucous: add "sleep 30;" to the start of the command
[17:41] <glaucous> sleep 30 && jackd? James147, VesPeace-
[17:41] <VesPeace-> that should work
[17:42] <glaucous> VesPeace-: James147: sleep 30 &&, and sleep 30; both work
[17:42] <glaucous> thanks
[17:43] <VesPeace-> :)
[17:58] <Khaotic> brb upgrading ram
[18:45] <tntc> I'm trying to watch video over sftp/fish, but Kaffiene doesn't seem to know what to do with a video that's not local.  I keep getting a "no input plugin for MRL sftp://<hostname>/<file>" or "fish://<hostname>/<file>", but when I copy <file> to the local machine, it plays fine.
[18:46] <tntc> Is there a way around this?
[18:46] <tntc> I mean, what the heck is the point of KIO slaves if the only KDE programs they work in are file managers?
[18:49] <casey> dont want sleep monde in 10.4 how to turn it off
[19:13] <vbgunz> reddit is down. what do I do now?
[19:13] <vbgunz> must google what to do
[19:17] <JustinTheTerribl> I have no sound please help
[20:49] <brian> Hello
[20:50] <Sleepwlker> Whatsup guys?
[21:24] <MichealH> How do you install themes in Kubuntu?
[21:26] <James147> MichealH: depends on waht themes you are talking about
[21:26] <MichealH> The window buttons and decoration
[21:26] <MichealH> Also the Qt theme
[21:27] <MichealH> James147, ^^
[21:30] <James147> MichealH: find one you like on kde-look.org... it should tell you how to install it
[21:30] <MichealH> Okay
[21:30] <MichealH> I was asking for a generic way
[21:30] <MichealH> Is there a genericway
[21:35] <MichealH> James147, A theme i sawon KED look doesnt provide instrustions :S
[21:38] <Sleepwlker> You guys know what needs to be developed
[21:38] <Sleepwlker> A Kubuntu like Mobile operating system
[21:38] <Sleepwlker> That would be legit
[21:39] <MichealH> I found out you usally install them by ./configure make then make install
[21:41] <Sleepwlker> Also, we need some freedom toasters in the U.S.
[21:44] <Sleepwlker> Why is this iRC so inactive? Sadface.
[21:45] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, You mean :(
[21:45] <DarthFrog> Why?  Because many folks have it open but are actually out flying kites or enjoying the weekend.
[21:45] <MichealH> DarthFrog, Im not
[21:45] <DarthFrog> Or playing Starcraft 2. :-)
[21:45] <Sleepwlker> Lol
[21:45] <MichealH> I have a holiday
[21:45] <Sleepwlker> Does SC2 work on WINE?
[21:45] <DarthFrog> MichealH: It's a long weekend up here in Canuckistan.
[21:46] <Sleepwlker> You mean Canadia
[21:46] <DarthFrog> Sleepwlker: From what I learned yesterday, yes it does.
[21:46] <MichealH> Doyou installthemes by .configure , make then make install?
[21:46] <MichealH> *./configure
[21:46] <DarthFrog> Sleepwlker: www.winehq.org has an AppDB that covers it.
[21:46] <Sleepwlker> Thats pretty sweet
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> That adds another major game that can work on Linux
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> but how well does it run?
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> I only have 512 MB of RAM
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> I was able to get WoW started on WINE
[21:47] <MichealH> Can anyone answer my Question
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> but it was ridiculously slow
[21:47] <Sleepwlker> like 1 FPS lol
[21:47] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, I would get 1FP2S
[21:47] <MichealH> (1 Frame per 2 seconds)
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> Lol
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> How much RAM you got?
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> 256?
[21:48] <MichealH> 1.5 GB
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> Shitty GFX card then?
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> Or wut?
[21:48] <MichealH> Yes
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> My GFX card is like
[21:48] <MichealH> SiS Mirage 3 Graphics
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> ~6 years old
[21:48] <DarthFrog> Umm, guys, there's no point in playing a demanding 3D game on a machine that isn't set up for gaming. :-)
[21:48] <FloodBotK3> Sleepwlker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> Oh yes there is
[21:48] <Sleepwlker> Because it's Linux
[21:49] <Sleepwlker> and Linux needs to be > Windows
[21:49] <DarthFrog> If you say so.
[21:49] <MichealH> Windows Rox!
[21:49]  * MichealH hides
[21:49] <Sleepwlker> And Windows > Shit > Mass Murderers > Mac
[21:49] <Sleepwlker> Therefore Linux > Mac
[21:49] <DarthFrog> No one OS will be the best in everything.  Keep in mind, it's a tool, not a religious choice.
[21:49] <Sleepwlker> Eh
[21:49] <Sleepwlker> For now
[21:50] <Sleepwlker> But I think in the future
[21:50] <Sleepwlker> We will see a new distro of linux
[21:50] <Sleepwlker> geared towards gaming
[21:50] <FloodBotK3> Sleepwlker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <MichealH> OMG!Flood
[21:50] <Sleepwlker> Lol, the floodbot really hates me
[21:50] <DarthFrog> No, it doesn't.
[21:50] <DarthFrog> Like Jessica Rabbit, it's just coded that way. :-)
[21:50] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, Do I install themes by ./configure make then make install?
[21:51] <MichealH> In a terminal
 Sleepwlker: Please don't flood.  Next time I will format your hard drive.
[21:51] <DarthFrog> MichealH: Download the theme and read the README file.
[21:51] <Sleepwlker> I've never installed a theme
[21:51] <MichealH> Oh
[21:51] <Sleepwlker> I just used the default ones that came with my distro
[21:51] <MichealH> But is that the generic way?
[21:51] <MichealH> Oxygen looks *rubbish*
[21:52] <Sleepwlker> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+themes+on+kubuntu
[21:52] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, OMG~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:52] <Sleepwlker> Wut?
[21:52] <MichealH> OOOOOOOMMMMMGGGGG!
[21:53] <MichealH>  You google saeched for me?
[21:53] <Sleepwlker> ohyeah
[21:53] <MichealH> lolololololololololololollolololololollo
[21:53] <DarthFrog> Well, we're discouraged from telling you to Google it yourself. :-)
[21:53] <DarthFrog> Undt zo I tend to not respond to questions that are easily answered by a Google search.
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> Yeah
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> But we do have to answer them every now and then
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> otherwise we might scare away potential new users
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> and we don't want to do that, now do we
[21:54] <DarthFrog> Generally by doing the Google search for them.
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> Pretty much lol
[21:54] <Sleepwlker> But we all gotta start somewhere
[21:55] <Sleepwlker> and sometimes it does help to have a more experienced user translate some of the more advanced instructions for us
[21:55] <Sleepwlker> I'm pretty new to Linux myself
[21:55] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, You solved it (Sota!)
[21:55] <DarthFrog> I'm of two minds about that.  I'll toe the Canonical/Ubuntu party line.  But I'm not sure that anyone who's not willing to do the least amount of work should be running Linux.
[21:55] <Sleepwlker> Got it abouta  month ago, so I'm not really that pro yet
[21:55] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, I have has 1 year of GNOME and I want to try KDE for 1 year ish
[21:55] <DarthFrog> Sleepwlker: Yeah, but you're coming along nicely. :-)
[21:56] <Sleepwlker> Now that I think about it
[21:56] <Sleepwlker> My theme is pretty bland
[21:56] <Sleepwlker> maybe I should get http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plumbum+%28+QtCurve+%29?content=128020
[21:56] <Sleepwlker> that looks pretty legit
[21:56] <DarthFrog> MichealH: KDE will allow you to do much more than GNOME will but you don't have to do anything if the defaults are OK for you.
[21:56] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, I found an answer
[21:57] <Sleepwlker> See, google does have the answer to all of life's problems
[21:57] <MichealH> Even 42! ;)
[21:57] <DarthFrog> Both GNOME and KDE will run each others apps.
[21:57] <MichealH> :D Horay!
[21:58] <DarthFrog> So the choice between GNOME and KDE truly is nothing more than personal choice.  Except that Ubuntu enhancements tend to be GNOME only.  KDE is somewhat of the red-headed stepchild of Ubuntu.
[21:58] <DarthFrog> Unfortunately.
[21:59] <MichealH> The thing driving me away from KDE is its lack of Themeability
[21:59] <MichealH> I dontlike running something ugly
[21:59] <MichealH> EVAR!
[21:59] <DarthFrog> Which doesn't matter to me.  I've been running KDE since v. 1, before GNOME was even a wet dream of Miguel's.
[21:59] <DarthFrog> MichealH: Lack of themeability?  KDE is themeable up the ying-yang!
[22:00] <DarthFrog> Configurabilty is very much KDE's strong suit.
[22:00] <MichealH> DarthFrog, Well Its lack of Installing themes to newbies
[22:00] <Sleepwlker> What do you want to theme exactly
[22:00] <Sleepwlker> The colorscheme
[22:00] <Sleepwlker> cause that is easy to change
[22:00] <MichealH> If u get what I mean
[22:00] <DarthFrog> MichealH: Have you explored System Settings?
[22:00] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, I did that before
[22:00] <MichealH> DarthFrog, Yes and No
[22:01] <DarthFrog> MichealH: GNOME is very much like HAL in 2001:  I'm sorry, I can't allow you to do that.
[22:01] <DarthFrog> KDE is: OK, Boss, what shall we do now?
[22:01] <MichealH> DarthFrog, I think you are referring to Vista ;)
[22:01] <DarthFrog> I've never run Vista.
[22:01] <MichealH> Lol
[22:02] <MichealH> I have Win 7
[22:02] <MichealH> on Laptop
[22:02] <MichealH> Ubuntu on Desktop
[22:02] <MichealH> Perfect setup :)
[22:02] <DarthFrog> I have Win7 but don't use it.  I use Kubuntu for almost everything.
[22:03] <Sleepwlker> I have Kubuntu on my desktop
[22:03] <Sleepwlker> and I have a Windows XP 60 GB HardDrive in my closet
[22:03] <Sleepwlker> incase I ever need that shit again
[22:03] <Sleepwlker> plus my Windows XP startup discs
[22:03] <MichealH> lol
[22:03] <MichealH> I think I will love here
[22:04] <pingveno> I have Kubuntu on my laptop, Arch on my home server, and Windows 7 dual booting with the laptop.
[22:04] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, You flooder :O OMG! LOL! ROFL! ROFLMAO!
[22:04] <Sleepwlker> !floodbot
[22:04] <Sleepwlker> D:
[22:05] <MichealH> lol
[22:05] <Aranel> [Newbie Question] My friend needs help about his ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (HP DV6 1144ET) on Kubuntu Lucid. Binary one freezes when watching video, opensource driver works well with videos but worst 3d acceleration. Can any ATi user here help us? :)
[22:07] <DarthFrog> Sleepwlker: Have you read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[22:07] <Sleepwlker> I don't play by the rules
[22:08] <Sleepwlker> But no, I haven't read them
[22:08] <DarthFrog> !coc
[22:09] <Sleepwlker> Awww
[22:09] <Sleepwlker> I don't wanna be respectful
[22:09] <DarthFrog> Aranel: I have an ATI card (5770) and am running the binary drivers.  It works well with video so the issue must be with his card.
[22:10] <DarthFrog> Sleepwlker: What we want and what we have to do, don't always co-incide.  It's all part of growing up and being British. :-)  Even if you're not British!
[22:10] <MichealH> See you
[22:10] <Sleepwlker> D:
[22:10] <Sleepwlker> I don't wanna be British
[22:10] <Sleepwlker> Especially if I have to get one of those funny accents
[22:10] <MichealH> Sleepwlker, Im Brittish
[22:10] <MichealH> Its 10PM here
[22:11] <Sleepwlker> See
[22:11] <MichealH> Its me, A 13 year old signing off for now
[22:11] <Sleepwlker> I hate saying
[22:11] <Sleepwlker> "I'm American"
[22:11] <Sleepwlker> because the United States is not the entirety of America
[22:11] <MichealH> See you
[22:11] <Aranel> DarthFrog: hmm any idea how to fix this problem? Its also broken on Ubuntu too.
[22:12] <DarthFrog> Aranel: Ubuntu & Kubuntu are the same, but for the desktop interface.  The issue will be with his particular card and the driver.
[22:12] <Sleepwlker> Thats another key weakness to Linux
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> the lack of good drivers for commercial products
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> I have a wireless N Adapter made by Engenius
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> but it is not currently supported by Linux
[22:13] <DarthFrog> Aranel: Is there anything logged in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> Only my Wireless G is
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> D:
[22:13] <Aranel> DarthFrog: yeah I know that, but asking him to change his card (which is not 10-years old card) just for starting to use GNU/Linux would be unhelpful.
[22:13] <Aranel> DarthFrog: wait a minute, asking him.
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> Has he tried rebooting the computer?
[22:13] <Sleepwlker> It may seem obvious
[22:14] <Sleepwlker> But many technical problems can be solved by a simple reboot
[22:14] <Sleepwlker> And often it is the last thing you think of
[22:14] <DarthFrog> Aranel: He doesn't have to change his card.  Just change his driver. :-)
[22:14] <Aranel> Sleepwlker: yeah he tried it at least 5 times, with different drivers.
[22:15] <idzi> siemano!
[22:15] <idzi> pomoże mi ktoś krok po kroku wyjebac własnościowe stery ati i zainstalować wolne???!!! KUBUNTU
[22:15] <DarthFrog> Aranel: Which opensource driver has he tried?
[22:15] <DarthFrog> !pl | idzi
[22:16] <Sleepwlker> Idzi
[22:16] <idzi> ???
[22:16] <Sleepwlker> I don't speak whatever language it is you are speaking
[22:16] <Aranel> DarthFrog: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:16] <Sleepwlker> If you can understand English
[22:16] <idzi> i can speak english
[22:16] <Sleepwlker> Most of the people here speak English
[22:17] <Sleepwlker> Yay
[22:17] <Sleepwlker> Thats better lol
[22:17] <Aranel> DarthFrog: he switched to this from the one released on ATi's website
[22:17] <DarthFrog> Aranel: has he tried the radeonhd driver?
[22:17] <idzi> i just wat that someone help me remove ati drivers and help install free drivers
[22:17] <Aranel> DarthFrog: radeonhd? maybe he didnt..
[22:18] <DarthFrog> !ati | idzi
[22:18] <DarthFrog> idzi: You can also see the link that Aranel posted above.
[22:18] <Aranel> DarthFrog: isn't it the same as one released on ATi's website?
[22:18] <idzi> radeon x1200
[22:19] <Sleepwlker> !floodbot | DarthFrog
[22:19] <Sleepwlker> !google
[22:20] <Aranel> DarthFrog: here's the log file: http://pastebin.com/BzaBZ8Ab with lots of (WW) s, warnings i guess.
[22:20] <DarthFrog> Aranel: no.  the fglrx drivers are the ATI proprietary ones.  the radeon and radeonhd drivers are open source.
[22:21] <DarthFrog> Aranel: What program is he using to watch videos?
[22:21] <Aranel> DarthFrog: he tried Kaffeine, VLC, SMPlayer and gnome-player on  Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[22:21] <DarthFrog> Aranel: he's got problems:  (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[22:22] <DarthFrog> That has to be fixed.  Likely his problems will go away when that does.
[22:23] <DarthFrog> Aranel: Is he running the fglrx drivers from Kubuntu?  or from ATI?
[22:23] <Aranel> DarthFrog: :) so there's still hope. Now he's running RadeonDriver. But he was using the ATI ones.
[22:23] <Aranel> DarthFrog: he tried Kubuntu default driver too, video freezes was same.
[22:24] <DarthFrog> My advice is to just run the ones provided by Kubuntu.
[22:24] <DarthFrog> Did he have  hardware-accelerated 3D with them?
[22:24] <Aranel> DarthFrog: yes 3D was working good enough
[22:24] <DarthFrog> Well, the current drivers aren't installed properly.
[22:26] <Aranel> DarthFrog: so you think that he should install again? but which one?
[22:26] <Aranel> DarthFrog: radeon,radeonhd or ATi?
[22:26] <DarthFrog> Which is more important to him:  video or 3D?  Install the one that provides that.
[22:27] <Aranel> DarthFrog: He watches lots of videos -mostly anime- so  video is important, but surely he's gonna use it for 3D too.
[22:27] <Aranel> DarthFrog: so I think both. :P
[22:27] <DarthFrog> Then pick the one that provides both. :-)  If it exists. :-)
[22:28] <DarthFrog> My guess is that the official Kubuntu ATI fglrx drivers will be his best bet.
[22:28] <DarthFrog> They work just tickety-boo for me.
[22:31] <Aranel> DarthFrog: he tried them first, after those video issues I asked him to switch to ATi ones and RadeonDriver.
[22:31] <Aranel> DarthFrog: anyway thanks for your help :)
[22:31] <DarthFrog> Aranel: You're welcome.   Though I didn't really help much, sorry.
[22:32] <Aranel> DarthFrog: Nope you helped us great :)) I think its his fault buying an ATi product, which known as no-go for a Linux computer.
[22:32] <DarthFrog> Aranel: Right now, I think he's still got some of the old drivers hanging around and interfering.  Which is likely why he has a kernel/driver conflict.
[22:33] <DarthFrog> Actually, ATI is a very good choice now for Linux.
[22:34] <Aranel> I think It will be a very good choice in near future, because of its opensource drivers, but it's not good enough for production environments today. at least not this one :)
[22:34] <DarthFrog> That may be true, he may have a bum card.  But it's not universally true.  I have an ATI 5770 card and it runs great in Linux.