[05:58] <jmsthing678> Hello everyone
[10:21] <thorwil> day of the mailing list membership reminders
[11:27] <Spironox> any one here
[11:27] <vish> Spironox: no
[11:28] <vish> thorwil: hmm? reminders?
[11:28] <Spironox> hehe sorry to budge in i am noob but got some work done with artworks
[11:30] <vish> Spironox: not disturbing anything here , we rarely chat here ;)
[11:45] <Spironox> so what do people do here jsut log and duck
[11:46] <MDC1> Spironox: i'm just here to look at pretty screenshots of new artwork ;)
[11:50] <Spironox> where did u find them ...
[11:51] <Spironox> chow gtg now
[11:57] <thorwil> vish: the mailing list memberships reminder mails from mailman lists. the way i notice it's the 1st of a month ;)
[12:00]  * thorwil hits the road
[17:42] <thorwil> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/ubuntu-chicago-loco-t-shirt/
[18:10] <vish> thorwil: the second one is neat!  did making the "ubuntu" same size as chicago loco not work out?
[18:20] <Equiet> Hi thorwil. I like the idea, but not so much the layout. What about something like http://stelmaria.equiet.operaunite.com/file_sharing/content/chicago_loco_inline-cof.svg ?
[18:35] <thorwil> vish: it did work, but put emphasis on "ubuntu"
[18:39] <vish> thorwil: hmm , yeah , then maybe move it away , something like what Equiet has done.. it seems unbalanced right now..
[18:39] <thorwil> Equiet: it should be suitable for vinyl transfer on t-shirts. the maximal printing area is 15 x 15 inches. parts smaller than 1/8 inch are a problem. that means that text has to be rather large
[18:40] <Equiet> Ah, t-shirts... That's not my area.
[18:41] <vish> thorwil: or maybe just drop ubuntu.. we have the logo, "chicago loco" should be sufficient
[18:42] <thorwil> vish: funny how i thought about dropping the CoF, but not leaving "ubuntu" out :)
[18:42] <vish> lol! :)
[18:43] <vish> thorwil: the second one i like more because of what you had done with the logo and the curved edge on the top
[18:46] <thorwil> vish: initially i tried placing it more in the middle, but then it becomes part of the pictures and will likely be interpreted to be the moon. would need a reflection. tried that, became too busy and kinda silly. so corner placement and the rounded edge to set it apart a bit more--anti-moon-feature :)
[18:49] <vish> hehe , drawing a reflection for the logo would have been funny ;p
[18:49] <thorwil> http://s684.photobucket.com/albums/vv203/techsx2/Chicago%20LoCo/
[18:50] <Equiet> Btw, enlarging "CHICAGO LOCO" by 1 more row works too. http://stelmaria.equiet.operaunite.com/file_sharing/content/chicago_loco_inline-cof-larger.svg
[18:52] <thorwil> Equiet: you first edit was fine (for another medium), but now you destroy the impression of a reflection
[18:53] <darkmatter> http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/9527/screenshotom.png
[18:53] <thorwil> Equiet: the empty cells right below CHICAGO LOCO are unfortunate
[18:55] <thorwil> darkmatter: what's up with > arrow after "icons"?
[18:58] <darkmatter> thorwil. that would be a bug with the pathbar methinks. I haven't played around with the back/forward ends of it yet
[18:59] <thorwil> darkmatter: the lack of distractions makes a detail like that stand out ;)
[19:00] <darkmatter> i dun like the network icon I ripped. gonna have to make a new one (well, ripped is stron, the theme is gpl :P)
[19:00] <darkmatter> thorwil: aye
[19:00] <darkmatter> also need moar better back/forward on the toolbars
[19:02] <darkmatter> thorwil: hmmm... should I change the "!" on x.png to a red "x"?
[19:03] <thorwil> darkmatter: what does it mean? my guess for th "!" would be no (write) permissions. "x" is tied to close/delete
[19:04] <darkmatter> thorwil: the x in the tray as is is for disconnect type stuff. the "!" is mainly on messages. and x.png is a dropbox error message
[19:07] <thorwil> darkmatter: try replacing the downward arrow with the !, i think it's too much detail for such a tiny thing
[19:08] <darkmatter> I'm just trying to decide. mute/disconnect/network error all use an "x", so in that context it would make sense, but the x.png is when dropbox syncing fails. so, yeah
[19:08] <darkmatter> thorwil: good idea. it's also more consistent with the other states
[19:08] <thorwil> darkmatter: a change to a traffic sign shape (with the down arrow) could be an option. http://www.bridgelock.com/images/Traffic_sign.jpg
[19:09] <darkmatter> hmmm... that may work. I think there is a tray one for gtk-warning I could edit
[19:14] <vish> darkmatter:  "!" can mean attention , which is better for a disconnect icon...
[19:15] <vish> there are already too many "x" in icons.. metacity close , close button , delete icon..
[19:15] <darkmatter> vish: making two alts atm, then I'll screenie
[19:32] <darkmatter> vish: thorwil: http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1100/screenshotrtm.png
[19:33] <darkmatter> I think I should kill the dash on the traffic sign though (top part of the broken arrow)
[19:33] <thorwil> darkmatter: the top part of your down-arrow clashes with the traffic sign shape
[19:33] <thorwil> yeah
[19:34] <darkmatter> thowil: but anyway. traffic sign or box with "!"?
[19:36] <thorwil> darkmatter: depends on whether you can make the arrow work in the /\ shape
[19:36] <darkmatter> I'll revise it in a sec. must make coffee :D
[19:43] <thorwil> chicago nobuntu edition: http://tinyurl.com/2darnbk
[21:51]  * darkmatter decides etched monochrome for normal states that turn to fully rendered icons when delivering messages :O
[21:58] <darkmatter> coz_: ^ or in more detail, etched in neutral monochrom-ish tray items (un-boring monochrome) that turn to "stuck on top (slight shadow border on the underside) fully rendered version when requiring attention. that way it's more distinct than little grey/black/tan blobs ;)
[21:58] <darkmatter> coz_: and good afternoon to you good sir
[21:59] <coz_> darkmatter,  :) hey guy how are you today :)
[22:01] <darkmatter> coz_: goes well if I do say so. just had a huge tstorm that cooled crap off
[22:01] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh?
[22:01] <coz_> darkmatter,   thats good
[22:01] <darkmatter> coz_: and yourself?
[22:01] <coz_> darkmatter,  I am ok..thanks :)
[22:03] <darkmatter> good good
[22:04] <darkmatter> coz_: ya like my panel-tay-crap-thingy icon idea? will take a bit to execute properly, since talking apps vary so much from idle ones, so consistency in style will be tricky
[22:05] <coz_> darkmatter,  sounds cool :)
[22:07] <darkmatter> coz_: like, greyscale a stamp for messaging and etch it in. and have it pop up (either flush or slightly above the panel) and fully colorize on a new mail, etc etc. every icon will need its own work, since some items (like system crap) tend not to change state as often, or don't really require many speaking states
[22:11] <coz_> darkmatter,   for sure... doing as many icons as this may take will be a pain :)
[22:13] <darkmatter> coz_: well, we have two standard styles. technicolor blobs and monochromatic blobs, and both have the same effect of making one rub their eyes. so I thought "meeting in the middle" might prove to be a decent compromise (plus noone else does it ;))
[22:13] <coz_> darkmatter,  i agree... so this is somewhat neutral grey?
[22:15] <darkmatter> coz_: yes. basically the icons will be fully rendered but desaturated and etched in. they'll "surface" from their depressed state and re-saturate for speaking states (messages/errors/etc)
[22:15] <coz_> cool :)
[22:16] <darkmatter> I haven't started yet. but did a few quick pencil sketches (I dropped the standard tray for a mono one and was equally confused :P)
[22:16] <coz_> :)
[22:18] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy... I dont mean to cut this short... I must have ate something that is not agreeing with me :(   I will try to get back in a while... I think I am going to lay down