| pcw | I have a boot problem; normal users have no access to soundcards and devices random daemons not starting up. can any1 help? | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| seidos | pcw, the only thing I can think of, as a starting point, is maybe check the logs in /var/log | 00:23 |
| pcw | seidos:where and what should i look for? I hav plowed through messages dmesg found nothing | 00:41 |
| seidos | pcw, you can search syslog for the word "error". Wait, you said that random daemons are not starting up? Which daemons? | 00:42 |
| pcw | apt-cacher-ng | 00:43 |
| seidos | never heard of it | 00:44 |
| pcw | some software that does caching of downloads from apt servers | 00:44 |
| seidos | yeah, I don't have that process running currently. What version of ubuntu are you running? | 00:44 |
| pcw | lucid | 00:45 |
| pcw | stock kernel and 35-12 doesnot work | 00:45 |
| seidos | I'm running Jaunty with an updated kernel. | 00:45 |
| seidos | 2.6.30, the newer kernels don't work for me either. | 00:46 |
| pcw | at least 35-12 is finally giving me stable error | 00:46 |
| seidos | did your system ever work? | 00:46 |
| pcw | older kernels dont work for me sadly | 00:46 |
| pcw | yes with stock worked 80% of the time | 00:46 |
| Jason1 | how do i find out all the packages that are currently installed? | 00:47 |
| pcw | <Jason1>:dpkg-query -l | 00:48 |
| seidos | pcw, I don't know. I'm already out of ideas. | 00:49 |
| pcw | seidos: 'amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22' | 00:50 |
| pcw | seen this? | 00:50 |
| seidos | pcw, never | 00:50 |
| seidos | pcw, I'm running 32 bit on 64 bit hardware. | 00:50 |
| pcw | think i m gonna just give up on the ubu | 00:51 |
| seidos | pcw, I don't know, maybe you can try running the daemons manually | 00:51 |
| pcw | lucid just plain suck | 00:51 |
| pcw | i can but i just dont want to | 00:51 |
| pcw | i can fix every prob i have manually | 00:52 |
| seidos | perhaps a script will fix the problem then | 00:52 |
| pcw | yes it can | 00:52 |
| pcw | problem is that there seems to be other deeper problems which i do not understand and wishes to figure out | 00:53 |
| seidos | ubuntu isn't perfect. lots of different hardware out there. | 00:53 |
| pcw | sadly intrepid was working very well | 00:53 |
| pcw | lucid is just a big fail | 00:53 |
| seidos | or maybe ubuntu is perfect, but all the proprietary hardware isn't :| | 00:53 |
| pcw | nope | 00:54 |
| pcw | i hav got 3 mach | 00:54 |
| pcw | all got various prob with ubu | 00:54 |
| seidos | GNU/Linux? | 00:54 |
| pcw | lucid to b exact | 00:54 |
| pcw | all went well with intrepid | 00:54 |
| pcw | ubu 9.10 | 00:54 |
| seidos | maybe lucid isn't the right distro for you. | 00:54 |
| pcw | yup | 00:55 |
| seidos | I don't use it | 00:55 |
| pcw | killing now | 00:55 |
| pcw | falling back | 00:55 |
| pcw | thank you very much seidos | 00:55 |
| seidos | good luck pcw | 00:55 |
| Jason1 | how can i find out what users are logged in ssh or otherwise to my server? | 01:09 |
| seidos | Jason1, I think the command "users" might be what you're looking for. | 01:14 |
| geirha | or w or who | 01:15 |
| seidos | ah, who, I had forgotten about that | 01:16 |
| seidos | w is nicest, haven't heard that before, thanks geirha | 01:16 |
| stlsaint | 9.10 is NOT intrepid! | 01:18 |
| phillw | 9.10 was Krazy Koala :p | 01:19 |
| phillw | Karmic :-) | 01:19 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: hello | 01:21 |
| JoeMaverickSett | stlsaint, hello! morning! (it's morning here!) =D | 01:21 |
| Jason1 | seidos: thanks thats why Im in the beginners room! | 01:22 |
| Jason1 | Can someone explain to me what the purpose is of each user when they are created having their own group? | 01:22 |
| === uRock is now known as chlorinator | ||
| chlorinator | Jason1, permissions | 01:25 |
| chlorinator | so you can share files with people in a group without sharing them with others o a system or network | 01:25 |
| stlsaint | chlorinator: why the name change? | 01:27 |
| === stlsaint is now known as hobgoblin2 | ||
| chlorinator | Just got out of the pool and now I smell of chlorine | 01:28 |
| hobgoblin2 | aye | 01:28 |
| hobgoblin2 | opps | 01:28 |
| === hobgoblin2 is now known as stlsaint | ||
| Jason1 | i've just corrupted my passwd file by changing the numbers around. Is there anyway I can tell from the prompt (wiuthout going to the passwd file) what my current userid # is? | 01:29 |
| chlorinator | I shocked it this morning so the chlorine level is very high, but still in the safe zone | 01:29 |
| chlorinator | eek | 01:29 |
| chlorinator | if you are the admin, then you need to have 700 | 01:30 |
| geirha | echo $UID | 01:30 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: enter id | 01:30 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: command: id | 01:30 |
| stlsaint | geirha: aye, your just a command library | 01:31 |
| geirha | :) | 01:31 |
| chlorinator | I just aced my Intro to UNIX/Linux class, yet I am lost with some of the permission stuff as far as administering it. | 01:32 |
| === chlorinator is now known as uRock | ||
| stlsaint | uRock: where are you from and what class is this? | 01:33 |
| uRock | Las Vegas, it was the basic Intro to UNIX/Linux class | 01:34 |
| stlsaint | uRock: college? | 01:34 |
| uRock | yep | 01:34 |
| stlsaint | nice | 01:34 |
| JoeMaverickSett | stlsaint, you keep asking the questions i wanted to ask! =D | 01:34 |
| uRock | It isn't for my degree, but I felt I could use it | 01:34 |
| * JoeMaverickSett is too slow in typing compared to these IRC Pros. | 01:35 | |
| uRock | 4 people dropped the class because they couldn't handle it | 01:35 |
| uRock | they said they were too used to windows | 01:35 |
| JoeMaverickSett | uRock, you should have a student like me! ;) | 01:36 |
| uRock | lol, I am still a student | 01:36 |
| JoeMaverickSett | hehe =D | 01:36 |
| uRock | the teacher is trying to get me into Linux+, but I have taken a disliking to COMPTIA | 01:37 |
| JoeMaverickSett | why? | 01:37 |
| Jason1 | ok so i have seriously messed things up. I can't save my passwd fie | 01:38 |
| uRock | starting the first of 2011 new certificates have to be renewed every three years | 01:38 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: What do you mean? Does sudo passwd fail? | 01:38 |
| JoeMaverickSett | oh! i am planning to take COMPITA Linux+ | 01:39 |
| uRock | JoeMaverickSett, get certified before the end of the year, so you don't have to retake | 01:39 |
| uRock | I could be wrong, it may be for A+ and Network+ only | 01:40 |
| JoeMaverickSett | uRock, hhmm, alright, thanks for the info. | 01:41 |
| uRock | JoeMaverickSett, http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/renewal.aspx | 01:42 |
| uRock | I think they are only doing it for the money, not because technology is changing | 01:43 |
| Jason1 | aveillux: sudo passwd doesn't fail but I can't save | 01:44 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: I guess I don't understand your problem, since you don't use a "save" command to exit passwd | 01:45 |
| Jason1 | ok... ctrl O doesn't work in nano | 01:45 |
| JoeMaverickSett | uRock, alright. taking a look at those. | 01:45 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: Um no. | 01:45 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: passwd is its own utility. | 01:45 |
| Jason1 | ive been editing the /etc/passwd file | 01:46 |
| Jason1 | i've messed up all the groups and passwords because I thought I could just delete the groups I didn't want to use. | 01:47 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: Why? | 01:47 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: That explains a lot. | 01:47 |
| Jason1 | because im a dumb newbie! | 01:47 |
| paultag | Don't say that in here Jason1 | 01:47 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: Putting yourself down won't get you anywhere | 01:47 |
| paultag | Jason1: no one is dumb. Newbie, perhaps, but this is how you learn. | 01:47 |
| paultag | At least you are learning what /etc/passwd does | 01:47 |
| JoeMaverickSett | Jason1, chill! people will help. as paultag said newbie,yes, but not dumb! | 01:48 |
| stlsaint | uRock: yes that is why i am getting my certs this year ;) | 01:48 |
| stlsaint | uRock: also it pertains to sec+ also :D | 01:49 |
| JoeMaverickSett | stlsaint, for which one would you be getting for? | 01:49 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: all of them! :D | 01:49 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: sec+, n+, A+ then continuing on... | 01:49 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: $250 bucks per test :D | 01:50 |
| JoeMaverickSett | stlsaint, wohoho! i think you are *The Geek* =D go on mate! | 01:50 |
| paultag | stlsaint: dude that's a lot of cash | 01:50 |
| stlsaint | first i will get sec+ as it is the hardest, then n+ | 01:50 |
| paultag | stlsaint: is the US paying for it? | 01:50 |
| stlsaint | paultag: im a baller! =D | 01:50 |
| Jason1 | ok so whats the solution now... I can't get in as root because I turned off root login in ssh | 01:50 |
| paultag | stlsaint: haha | 01:50 |
| stlsaint | paultag: i make it rain on my education!! :D | 01:51 |
| stlsaint | LOL | 01:51 |
| paultag | Jason1: haha, awesome. Try rebooting, and going in through single user mode ( recovery mode ) | 01:51 |
| uRock | I am geting the Cisco CCNA and I think they now have a cert for PC troubleshooting and repair | 01:51 |
| paultag | stlsaint: hahaha | 01:51 |
| paultag | Jason1: that or ctrl + alt + f1 if it gets that far | 01:51 |
| * JoeMaverickSett salutes stlsaint! | 01:51 | |
| aveilleux | Jason1: You don't need root in Ubuntu... sudo does it for you | 01:51 |
| paultag | +1 aveilleux | 01:51 |
| stlsaint | uRock: yep, when its all said and done i will have mcsa,mcse,then some VoIP, Cisco switch expert, amongst others | 01:51 |
| JoeMaverickSett | make that +2, i never knew that! =D | 01:52 |
| paultag | stlsaint: spend some of that on LDAP learnings | 01:52 |
| stlsaint | paultag: i have you for that! :D | 01:52 |
| paultag | stlsaint: stlsaint did I show you my new URL / Blog? | 01:52 |
| stlsaint | paultag: i have a vps with openldap ramping up for kerberos! :D | 01:52 |
| paultag | stlsaint: no way!!! | 01:52 |
| paultag | stlsaint: is it working yet? | 01:52 |
| stlsaint | paultag: yea i sent it in whub channel | 01:52 |
| JoeMaverickSett | are you guys like trying to get all the certs for computer related things? =D | 01:52 |
| stlsaint | paultag: i was reading your resume :D | 01:53 |
| aveilleux | I wish I could afford that many certs | 01:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: whatcha think? | 01:53 |
| Jason1 | single user mode? Im on 10.04 LTS server | 01:53 |
| stlsaint | paultag: simple, niffty | 01:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: thanks :) | 01:53 |
| uRock | The more you pay, the more you can earn | 01:53 |
| paultag | Jason1: Oh shoot. Well that explains it | 01:53 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: well im in the army so i pay for it myself then they reimburse me ;) | 01:53 |
| paultag | Jason1: Can you ssh as yourself? | 01:53 |
| * JoeMaverickSett wished he was stlsaint! =P | 01:53 | |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: Thhhbt | 01:53 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: are you using passwords or keys? | 01:53 |
| Jason1 | when I ssh as myself a different username actually appears | 01:53 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: aawww i love you too! :D | 01:54 |
| uRock | can Jason1 use vi to alter the passwd file? | 01:54 |
| paultag | Jason1: try using -l | 01:54 |
| aveilleux | uRock: He was using nano | 01:54 |
| paultag | Jason1: ssh server -l jason | 01:54 |
| uRock | k | 01:54 |
| stlsaint | uRock: thats not the issue | 01:54 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: ;) | 01:54 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: what command are you using to ssh in? | 01:55 |
| JoeMaverickSett | stlsaint, how do you even study for all those? you must have lot's of space in your head! 500GB @7200RPM? =P | 01:56 |
| uRock | stlsaint, for the ms certs, did you take classes or just read, practice, then test? | 01:56 |
| Jason1 | im using putty on a windows desktop to ssh in | 01:56 |
| stlsaint | JoeMaverickSett: hehe, naw i have the entire mcsa course that i took in college a few months back on my ipod | 01:56 |
| uRock | with reititon everything starts to sink in | 01:57 |
| stlsaint | uRock: ^^ | 01:57 |
| Jason1 | vi is way to intense for me | 01:57 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: what user? | 01:57 |
| Jason1 | right now Im in as myself | 01:57 |
| * JoeMaverickSett got nothing to say about stlsaint! | 01:57 | |
| Jason1 | id # 1002 | 01:57 |
| stlsaint | the army also paid for me to take the mcsa course :D | 01:57 |
| paultag | woo | 01:57 |
| uRock | gotta love VA | 01:58 |
| stlsaint | uRock: YEP | 01:58 |
| uRock | pays my bills when I am in school | 01:58 |
| uRock | darn summer break | 01:58 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: what does your prompt say for the user? | 01:58 |
| Jason1 | i get this error if I try to make changes HELP : loglevel(0-9) reBoot Crash terminate-all-tasks(E) memory-full-oom-kill(F) kill-all-t asks(I) thaw-filesystems(J) saK show-backtrace-all-active-cpus(L) show-memory-usage(M) nice-all-RT-t asks(N) show-registers(P) show-all-timers(Q) unRaw Sync show-task-states(T) Unmount show-blocked-tas | 01:58 |
| paultag | dude hell yes | 01:58 |
| Jason1 | jason@myserver | 01:59 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: does sudo -i command work? | 01:59 |
| paultag | Jason1: do you have physical access to the machine? | 01:59 |
| stlsaint | if anybody needs mcsa/sec+ notes let me know...i love to share from what the intructors gave me | 01:59 |
| Jason1 | not exactly physical access but I can get into it. | 02:00 |
| paultag | stlsaint: thanks, I might :) | 02:00 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: sudo -i | 02:00 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: does that work? | 02:00 |
| paultag | Jason1: is it a virtual machine? | 02:00 |
| Jason1 | sudo: unknown uid: 1002 | 02:00 |
| Jason1 | yes | 02:00 |
| paultag | haha w00t, called it | 02:00 |
| stlsaint | paultag: genious showoff :P | 02:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: OK. So, let's hack into this biznatch, as the kids today like to say | 02:01 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: does su work? | 02:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: so that HELP error is if you try and ssh in? | 02:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: or are you already on the box | 02:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: do you know the root password? | 02:01 |
| Jason1 | im already nano on passwd | 02:01 |
| * stlsaint fades to background..... | 02:01 | |
| paultag | Jason1: well that file is fucked anyway, I'm guessing | 02:01 |
| stlsaint | lol | 02:01 |
| paultag | stlsaint: naw, take point | 02:01 |
| Jason1 | I do know the root passwd but don't i need to enable it in the sshd_config? | 02:02 |
| stlsaint | paultag: fsck() no | 02:02 |
| paultag | stlsaint: I'll watch, I need to clean the kitch :) | 02:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: try ctrl + x, n, sudo - | 02:02 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: SSH is something else. No | 02:02 |
| stlsaint | paultag: NO...i dont know what you were going to do | 02:02 |
| paultag | stlsaint: >:) | 02:02 |
| paultag | wait | 02:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: su - | 02:02 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: You /can/ enable root in Ubuntu, but there's really no need | 02:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: not sudo, sudo won't work because of the passwords | 02:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: that will be the root pw, not user local pw | 02:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: you should be able to gainroot if you know it | 02:03 |
| aveilleux | paultag, Jason1: to get root in Ubuntu (if sudo -i is unsuccessful) you can sudo su | 02:03 |
| paultag | aveilleux: sudo will fail, the sudo'ers group is blasted if it failed | 02:03 |
| aveilleux | paultag, Jason1: That way you don't actually enable the root account | 02:03 |
| paultag | aveilleux: I think he already has it enabled | 02:03 |
| aveilleux | paultag: D8 | 02:03 |
| paultag | yeah | 02:03 |
| Jason1 | im at my prompt. What do I need to do again? Im not following | 02:03 |
| paultag | Jason1: su - | 02:03 |
| paultag | Jason1: that will be your root password | 02:03 |
| Jason1 | su: Cannot determine your user name. | 02:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: if you did not enable the root account, you might be fscked. | 02:04 |
| paultag | Oh shucks | 02:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: su -m root | 02:04 |
| stlsaint | oh noes | 02:04 |
| Jason1 | same: su: Cannot determine your user name. | 02:04 |
| paultag | Gah. | 02:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: do you have gcc installed? | 02:04 |
| Jason1 | don't know what it is so probbaly not | 02:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: OK, I'd use this time to get all data off that machine and re-install | 02:05 |
| Jason1 | I can get in as another user who has sudo. I can try that. | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | it maybe on a default server install | 02:05 |
| paultag | Jason1: It's OK. It might be blasted as well, if you lost sudoers group it should not work | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: oh heck yea get in that way | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | oh | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | thats true | 02:05 |
| paultag | but try | 02:05 |
| paultag | stlsaint: could be spot on | 02:05 |
| Jason1 | im in as root as another user! whewww! | 02:05 |
| paultag | wooo!! | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | sweet | 02:05 |
| paultag | Jason1: congrats :) | 02:05 |
| paultag | stlsaint: you rock :) | 02:05 |
| Jason1 | (didn't like the reinstall option) | 02:06 |
| paultag | stlsaint: +1 paultag point | 02:06 |
| paultag | Jason1: why is that? | 02:06 |
| stlsaint | W00T!! | 02:06 |
| paultag | Jason1: I've reinstalled more times then I can count :) | 02:06 |
| Jason1 | i already have clients running on the system | 02:06 |
| stlsaint | pfft, i just reinstalled yesterday :D | 02:06 |
| paultag | Jason1: oh shucks | 02:06 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: aye, fix that sudoers group man | 02:06 |
| paultag | Jason1: are they getting to it by IP or CNAME ? | 02:06 |
| Jason1 | im way out ahead of myself at the moment trying to catch up! | 02:06 |
| * stlsaint loves conky | 02:07 | |
| Jason1 | dns manager points them to their folder with virtual host | 02:07 |
| paultag | Jason1: you could bring up another Vitural Server, install it, then rysnc the data on the two | 02:07 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: can you fix your groups with this root user? | 02:07 |
| paultag | Jason1: then switch the CNAME for the domain, and then bring down the first after two hours or so | 02:07 |
| paultag | because that login file is fscked up from the looks of it | 02:08 |
| stlsaint | paultag: they are logged on as root right now | 02:08 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: right?? ^ | 02:08 |
| aveilleux | For the room: http://www.zazzle.com/root_access_tshirt-235683678517126274 (I know the syntax is a little off, but I had to dumb it down a little) | 02:08 |
| drubin | Moral of the story *never* *ever* edit /etc/passwd manually. | 02:08 |
| paultag | _+1 aveilleux | 02:09 |
| paultag | +10000000 drubin | 02:09 |
| Jason1 | i can probably fix the users im not sure. Im using a virtual terminal at the moment, rather than actually ssh into the system | 02:09 |
| Jason1 | lesson learned | 02:09 |
| paultag | Jason1: yup. That's all that counts | 02:09 |
| paultag | Jason1: consider a re-wipe | 02:09 |
| paultag | Jason1: you might have lost a lot of groups etc | 02:09 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: 35 bucks for that!?!? ROBBERY!! :P | 02:09 |
| Jason1 | well there were 3 uers I edited and 3 groups i deleted. Can I put them back in from the prompt? | 02:10 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: It's the lowest price I could set D: | 02:10 |
| drubin | Jason1: Learning is more important then any thing else :) | 02:10 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: oh | 02:10 |
| paultag | drubin: did you see my new domain? | 02:10 |
| paultag | Jason1: not without knowing what they were | 02:10 |
| paultag | Jason1: you don't take notes, perchance? | 02:10 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: Inverted colors is something in the range of $20 | 02:10 |
| drubin | paultag: I even viewed it. you mades me enables javascripts ;) | 02:10 |
| Jason1 | well I do know what they were. They were friends login ids. | 02:10 |
| paultag | drubin: hahahaha | 02:10 |
| * uRock The best way to learn is the hard way. | 02:10 | |
| paultag | drubin: suck it up, it's 2010 | 02:11 |
| Jason1 | true! | 02:11 |
| aveilleux | paultag +1 | 02:11 |
| drubin | paultag: Hey never been rickrolled or any thing with my anti javascript policies :) | 02:11 |
| aveilleux | drubin: None of the rickrolls work on Opera ;) | 02:11 |
| * drubin views page source before enabling javascripts | 02:11 | |
| Jason1 | i know all the id numbers and the reality is I can do without all of them if we can just get mine working. my id # is 2002 | 02:11 |
| paultag | drubin: haha | 02:12 |
| drubin | omw 3:30am and next doors alarm is going off ;/ | 02:12 |
| Jason1 | so is it possible to repair the passwd file using command prompts instead of editing the file? | 02:13 |
| drubin | Jason1: Repair possibly not. | 02:13 |
| uRock | lol, I just watched my neighbor's kids kill a bouncing room and it was only up for 30 minutes | 02:13 |
| stlsaint | lol | 02:14 |
| drubin | Jason1: If you have broken your passwd file I would suggest a reinstall. | 02:14 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: aye | 02:14 |
| aveilleux | I concur with drubin and stlsaint | 02:14 |
| Jason1 | even though Im root at the moment? | 02:14 |
| drubin | Jason1: unless you know *excatly* what changed | 02:14 |
| Jason1 | I believe I do. | 02:15 |
| drubin | Jason1: Next leasson is backup and restores ;-p | 02:15 |
| uRock | Jason1, back it up before making changes in the future | 02:15 |
| Jason1 | haha | 02:15 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: *.old will save your life | 02:15 |
| Jason1 | if I can delete the two users and edit me from id 1003 to 1002 that should be all i need | 02:16 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: sudo cp corg.conf xorg.conf.old has saved my butt so many times | 02:16 |
| Jason1 | (this is called denial phase) | 02:16 |
| uRock | lool | 02:16 |
| uRock | lol | 02:16 |
| Jason1 | but seriously, your saying its not possible even though I know the users and groups i edited? | 02:17 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: It's possible, but very difficult | 02:17 |
| drubin | Jason1: the way linux internally stores UIDs might be different | 02:17 |
| Jason1 | or if I delete all the applicable users and just create a new one for myself | 02:18 |
| Jason1 | ? | 02:18 |
| Jason1 | (from root) | 02:18 |
| drubin | Jason1: You could try that but you might have issues later on. | 02:18 |
| drubin | Jason1: So like we all said make backups. | 02:18 |
| drubin | Jason1: but yes you can try it only after you have backups :) if it doesn't work reinstall with backups | 02:19 |
| drubin | any how I need to get going. | 02:19 |
| Jason1 | ok.. im ready for the lesson on backups now! | 02:19 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: Before doing anything to a system file, sudo cp XX XX.old | 02:20 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: Where XX is the name of the file | 02:20 |
| Jason1 | ok | 02:20 |
| paultag | hey drubin, got a few secs? | 02:21 |
| paultag | drubin: I need some py help :) | 02:23 |
| Jason1 | ok so how do I get the backups to put back later. FTP? | 02:25 |
| Jason1 | i can't get on | 02:26 |
| paultag | Jason1: use rsync with a failover server if it's production | 02:26 |
| aveilleux | Jason1: What? Just sudo mv XX.old XX | 02:26 |
| aveilleux | That'll overwite the broken copy with the backup | 02:26 |
| aveilleux | Just leave it in the same dir | 02:26 |
| Jason1 | what is rsync? | 02:27 |
| paultag | Jason1: it will let you sync two directories over the network | 02:27 |
| paultag | Jason1: so sync mirror two installs, and then switch over the DNS entry | 02:27 |
| paultag | Jason1: I do this all the time in the datacenter I manage | 02:28 |
| paultag | old hardware upgrades etc | 02:28 |
| Jason1 | ah.. ok.. RIght now I only have the one server and it is taking up everything on the virtual host | 02:29 |
| paultag | Jason1: but it's virtual | 02:29 |
| paultag | add another vmachine | 02:29 |
| paultag | or do you not have ownership of the server? | 02:29 |
| Jason1 | im using linnode | 02:30 |
| Jason1 | I can reduce the size of the current install and then create a second if thats what your getting at, since right now it fills up all of my alloted space | 02:31 |
| paultag | Ah, no, can't do that with linode | 02:31 |
| paultag | Jason1: might be able to do that | 02:32 |
| pleia2 | can only have one running at a time, so you'd have to sync via an intermediary | 02:32 |
| paultag | +1 pleia2 | 02:33 |
| paultag | and that also entails downtime | 02:33 |
| Jason1 | so i need to setup 3? | 02:34 |
| Jason1 | my brain is fried at this point! | 02:35 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: do you have another machine you can use? | 02:36 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: to maybe use for syncing? | 02:36 |
| Jason1 | when you say machine what do you mean? | 02:38 |
| stlsaint | computer | 02:38 |
| Jason1 | im sitting at my desktop. Its a windows platform. there is the server itself which is on linnode | 02:38 |
| stlsaint | hrm | 02:38 |
| stlsaint | shucks | 02:38 |
| Jason1 | linnode will allow me to reduce the size of the current install. I could cut it in half. | 02:39 |
| Jason1 | then I would be able to setup a second install. I just don't know how to get the files back and forth between the two. | 02:39 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: can you ssh into that server using a form of gui? | 02:40 |
| Jason1 | the second (to be the newly created one)??? | 02:41 |
| stlsaint | no, | 02:41 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: like in linux you can connect to the server using nautilus | 02:41 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: is there something in windows that you have to do that? | 02:42 |
| Jason1 | yes its called puTTY. I use that to SSH into the server | 02:42 |
| Jason1 | that opens up my shell | 02:42 |
| paultag | try WinSCP | 02:42 |
| Jason1 | i have winSCP as well for ftp | 02:42 |
| paultag | Jason1: that's SFTP | 02:43 |
| paultag | Jason1: it's FTP over SSH | 02:43 |
| Jason1 | ok | 02:43 |
| paultag | ( a.k.a. scp ) | 02:43 |
| paultag | stlsaint: he can get data thru the pipe :) | 02:43 |
| Jason1 | winSCP doesn't work because I can't login | 02:43 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: pull that data from your sever to your windows system | 02:43 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: reformat then put back | 02:44 |
| paultag | Jason1: if you can putty you should be able to login | 02:44 |
| paultag | Jason1: it uses ssh to xfer, so if you can ssh in, you can scp over | 02:44 |
| Jason1 | i can't get into the server right now with winSCP | 02:44 |
| paultag | Jason1: how do you get in via PuTTY ? | 02:44 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: you can winscp but you can ssh?? | 02:44 |
| Jason1 | i can ssh but not winscp | 02:45 |
| stlsaint | :| | 02:45 |
| paultag | Jason1: just *try* for me, I know how this works on a low level | 02:45 |
| Jason1 | oh wait.. actually.. Ive nbever closed my session because I didn't want that to be gameover | 02:45 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: yes please try it | 02:45 |
| Jason1 | server refuses key | 02:45 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: your going through same port correct? | 02:46 |
| paultag | Jason1: does it not fall back on pw auth? | 02:46 |
| Jason1 | i have it turned off in sshd_config | 02:46 |
| paultag | Jason1: swap that over while you are root | 02:46 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: +1 on paultag's suggestion since you are having issues with keys atm | 02:46 |
| JoeMaverickSett | QUESTION: "if i want to apply for Seeking Mentor in here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth/Structure. i just go edit the page, right?" | 02:49 |
| paultag | Jason1: I don't know why you are asking in here :) | 02:50 |
| paultag | not you Jason1 | 02:50 |
| paultag | Jason1: you have a real issue | 02:50 |
| paultag | you JoeMaverickSett :) | 02:50 |
| paultag | darn tab complete | 02:50 |
| JoeMaverickSett | paultag, failed! =D | 02:50 |
| JoeMaverickSett | it seems to be the only way anyways! :) | 02:51 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: I'd ask in #Ubuntu-youth | 02:51 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: no one in here is qualified to answer that besides zkriesse | 02:51 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: so I'd ask him in that team's channel | 02:51 |
| JoeMaverickSett | alright paultag. won't disturb you no more. | 02:52 |
| JoeMaverickSett | :D | 02:52 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: you're not disturbing, just trying to route you somewhere to get an answer | 02:52 |
| * JoeMaverickSett goes off to #ubuntu-youth | 02:52 | |
| JoeMaverickSett | paultag, hehe! i've re-routed! ;) | 02:52 |
| paultag | :) | 02:52 |
| Jason1 | what comnand will let me read a file without editing? | 02:53 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: cat | 02:53 |
| paultag | Jason1: cat | 02:53 |
| paultag | <3 stlsaint | 02:53 |
| Jason1 | thx | 02:53 |
| stlsaint | paultag: cat <file> | 02:53 |
| paultag | Jason1: if it's long, less | 02:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: less <file> | 02:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: boom. headshot | 02:53 |
| stlsaint | fsck() | 02:53 |
| uRock | or more | 02:53 |
| uRock | "more" | 02:53 |
| paultag | uRock: less is more | 02:53 |
| paultag | uRock: :P | 02:53 |
| uRock | si | 02:53 |
| paultag | uRock: if it's long you can't go back up with more, so that always gives me sadsies | 02:54 |
| Jason1 | whatd the modifier to view it page by page? | 02:54 |
| uRock | does less do the same thing? | 02:54 |
| paultag | Jason1: | less, or less <file> | 02:54 |
| stlsaint | brb | 02:55 |
| * uRock Going where I have never gone before. Installing Arch in VBox. | 02:59 | |
| paultag | uRock: those arch guys are amazing | 03:00 |
| paultag | uRock: They have my utmost respect | 03:00 |
| Jason1 | permit root login is YES password authentication is yes | 03:00 |
| paultag | uRock: they've done some really cool stuff with the distro, and it's cool seeing what they come up with | 03:00 |
| Jason1 | I can't get in though via winSCP with my password | 03:00 |
| Jason1 | (for root) | 03:00 |
| paultag | Jason1: do you know the root password? | 03:00 |
| Jason1 | yes | 03:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: did you set it manually? | 03:01 |
| Jason1 | yes | 03:01 |
| uRock | I am sure to break it, lol | 03:01 |
| paultag | OK | 03:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: try PuTTY with root | 03:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: does that work? | 03:01 |
| paultag | Jason1: avoid using a PK | 03:01 |
| paultag | uRock: we all do at one point or another | 03:01 |
| Jason1 | im in without the password because of the key.. | 03:01 |
| paultag | uRock: as my 7th grade english teacher told me "Fail with dignity" | 03:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: Try removing the key | 03:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: Just try a raw ssh login | 03:02 |
| paultag | Jason1: if that does not work that needs to be addressed | 03:02 |
| paultag | uRock: I tried installing arch the other day | 03:03 |
| paultag | uRock: the kernel is the same as 10.04's, bad news for paultag :( | 03:03 |
| Jason1 | access denied even though im entering the correct passwrod | 03:03 |
| paultag | Jason1: then you have a bigger issue to address ;) | 03:03 |
| uRock | that bites | 03:04 |
| uRock | I haven't had any problems with it, yet | 03:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: can you still login as you? | 03:04 |
| paultag | Jason1: if so, either the root pw is wrong or remote logins are disabled | 03:04 |
| Jason1 | where is the setting for remote login? | 03:05 |
| paultag | Jason1: in the global ssh config | 03:06 |
| paultag | /etc/ssh/ssh_config I think | 03:06 |
| paultag | or something | 03:06 |
| paultag | might be PAM | 03:06 |
| paultag | I've never had to enable root ( for good reason ) | 03:06 |
| IdleOne | why would anyone want to enable root | 03:07 |
| IdleOne | root is over rated | 03:07 |
| paultag | IdleOne: +1 | 03:07 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I'm with you, friend | 03:07 |
| paultag | IdleOne: also, how are ya? | 03:07 |
| IdleOne | Doing ok here and you ? | 03:08 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I'm well. Got my new blog and domain all set :D | 03:08 |
| IdleOne | cool | 03:08 |
| * IdleOne is watching Rocky | 03:10 | |
| paultag | haha wich one IdleOne ? | 03:11 |
| IdleOne | the first one | 03:11 |
| Jason1 | looked and didn't see anything I can winSCP with a key at the moment into root | 03:11 |
| paultag | Jason1: make a tarball with the stuff you need to backup | 03:11 |
| IdleOne | paultag: I have seen it a gazabaillionmillion times | 03:12 |
| paultag | Jason1: then chown it to the user you can scp with | 03:12 |
| paultag | Jason1: then send dump the archive back | 03:12 |
| paultag | IdleOne: haha aye | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | you know what I haven't seen in a long time, Scarface! | 03:12 |
| paultag | Hahaha, aye!!!! Me neither! | 03:12 |
| paultag | God, I used to love that movie | 03:13 |
| paultag | same with Top Gun | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | lol such a stupid movie but I love it too lol | 03:13 |
| paultag | hell yeah IdleOne | 03:13 |
| seidos | I recently watched Devil's Advocate and Dark Knight Returns. | 03:13 |
| paultag | Oh noesss | 03:13 |
| paultag | Never seen Devil's Advocate, but the Dark Knight Returns rocks my socks | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | Devil's advocate is ehh | 03:13 |
| Jason1 | im root in winSCP at the moment so I don't think I need to chown | 03:13 |
| Jason1 | ? | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | not a classic | 03:13 |
| seidos | I was in my car the other day, and came up with an answer to why Joker's question "Why so serious?" | 03:14 |
| paultag | Jason1: oh, then you can copy over. Get to backing up! | 03:14 |
| paultag | seidos: hahaha, oh? | 03:14 |
| paultag | IdleOne: Too bad :( | 03:14 |
| Jason1 | already started | 03:14 |
| IdleOne | seidos has me curious to this answer | 03:14 |
| seidos | answer: because life can suck. | 03:14 |
| IdleOne | haha | 03:15 |
| seidos | but that just made me ask "why so happy?" | 03:15 |
| seidos | that one was a little trickier. Especially for the Joker. You can't say because life is good. I think the answer is because "boy's don't cry" | 03:15 |
| Jason1 | id like to make my srv file a tarball. whats the best way to do that? | 03:15 |
| IdleOne | If someone with a face like the Joker asks you "Why so serious?" the answer should be "Wouldn't you be serious if someone like you asked you that?" | 03:15 |
| seidos | Jason1, ermmm tar -xvvf file.tar file.srv | 03:16 |
| paultag | Jason1: tar -zcvf | 03:16 |
| paultag | +1 seidos | 03:16 |
| seidos | ah, dang it, I'm wrong | 03:16 |
| seidos | I did x, that's extract | 03:16 |
| seidos | Jason1, don't listen to me, listen to paultag, or better yet, man tar | 03:17 |
| seidos | I always have to type man tar because i forget the syntax | 03:17 |
| seidos | +2 paultag | 03:17 |
| paultag | :) | 03:17 |
| seidos | IdleOne, good point. Especially if he's carrying that full auto glock or whatever it was. | 03:17 |
| duanedesign | seidos: i have a function you can add to your bashrc where you just type ex to extract archives | 03:18 |
| seidos | duanedesign, do you use it? | 03:19 |
| stlsaint | duanedesign: of course you would! pffty | 03:19 |
| stlsaint | duanedesign: whats the difference between your function and a alias? | 03:19 |
| duanedesign | http://paste.ubuntu.com/471687/ | 03:20 |
| duanedesign | just add that to your .bashrc | 03:20 |
| IdleOne | alias ex='tar -xvvf' | 03:21 |
| IdleOne | then ex file.tar in terminal | 03:21 |
| stlsaint | IdleOne: your gonna need a bit more than that my friend :D | 03:21 |
| IdleOne | probably | 03:21 |
| stlsaint | hehe, its cool | 03:22 |
| duanedesign | IdleOne: yes that would work. But the function determines the extension then uses the appropriatte command | 03:22 |
| Jason1 | im at the top level. I want to tar the whole srv file | 03:22 |
| duanedesign | pretty neat | 03:22 |
| Jason1 | tar -zcvf /srv | 03:22 |
| Jason1 | isn't working | 03:22 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: cause your trying to tar a dirctory | 03:22 |
| IdleOne | Jason1: full path | 03:22 |
| IdleOne | never mind me | 03:22 |
| IdleOne | I know nothing about all this computer stuffs | 03:22 |
| seidos | don't you also need to specify the name of the tar file? | 03:23 |
| IdleOne | :) | 03:23 |
| stlsaint | yes | 03:23 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: the syntax is: tar -zcvf file.tar file.<whatever> | 03:24 |
| Jason1 | but it can only be a file, not a directory? | 03:24 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: as suggested earlier you should read the tar manual | 03:24 |
| IdleOne | duanedesign: thanks for the ex function | 03:26 |
| Jason1 | yes I have been looking at it. Im still trying to process them as they have been difficult for me to follow. | 03:28 |
| stlsaint | IdleOne: where you from? | 03:28 |
| IdleOne | Montreal Canada | 03:28 |
| stlsaint | oh ok | 03:28 |
| seidos | Jason1, there are some syntax examples near the end of the file. | 03:28 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I've been there once | 03:29 |
| duanedesign | IdleOne: it is one of my favorites. | 03:29 |
| IdleOne | for UDS | 03:29 |
| IdleOne | paultag: ^^ | 03:29 |
| paultag | IdleOne: nope :) -- tourist | 03:29 |
| IdleOne | ahh cool | 03:29 |
| paultag | IdleOne: wish it was for UDS :) | 03:29 |
| Jason1 | there are. but it doesn't actually say anywhere that you can't use it on a folder | 03:29 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/ | 03:30 |
| IdleOne | paultag: 11.10 is going to be in Belgium right? | 03:30 |
| stlsaint | Jason1: that help? | 03:30 |
| Jason1 | well that was easy i had the folder and name swapped! | 03:30 |
| paultag | IdleOne: this past one 10.04 was belgium, I thought | 03:31 |
| IdleOne | hmm | 03:31 |
| stlsaint | What average user can afford to just up and go way the hell to belgium!!?!!?!? | 03:31 |
| stlsaint | makes me mad!! | 03:31 |
| paultag | IdleOne: yeah -- brussels | 03:31 |
| IdleOne | I am going to try to go to that one | 03:31 |
| paultag | IdleOne: Hurm, might need a time machine | 03:31 |
| paultag | IdleOne: 11.10 I don't think is planned yet, but I could be wrong | 03:32 |
| paultag | IdleOne: 10.10 is in FL | 03:32 |
| paultag | ( USA ) | 03:32 |
| IdleOne | oh so 11.04 is Belgium | 03:32 |
| stlsaint | W00T!! | 03:32 |
| IdleOne | I can't go to Florida | 03:32 |
| IdleOne | :( | 03:32 |
| paultag | IdleOne: is it? | 03:33 |
| paultag | IdleOne: why not? | 03:33 |
| stlsaint | IdleOne: and i cant go to belgium so hhmmm! :P | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | last time I was there I beat up Mickey and now I am not welcome | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | lol | 03:33 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I can tell I already like you | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | haha | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | actually it's because of immigration reasons | 03:34 |
| IdleOne | which I am working on getting fixed | 03:34 |
| paultag | Ah | 03:34 |
| stlsaint | IdleOne: can you go to arizona? | 03:34 |
| IdleOne | but yeah FLA is out | 03:34 |
| paultag | HahahA!! | 03:34 |
| stlsaint | paultag: ;) | 03:34 |
| IdleOne | stlsaint: I know a few ppl who can get me into Arizona | 03:34 |
| paultag | stlsaint: darn rednecks | 03:34 |
| IdleOne | you got 10G? | 03:34 |
| paultag | stlsaint: I feel bad you have to live with 'em | 03:34 |
| stlsaint | LOL...nope your on your own buddy! | 03:35 |
| IdleOne | haha | 03:35 |
| stlsaint | paultag: hehe | 03:35 |
| IdleOne | Well in any case, Florida is out for now | 03:35 |
| paultag | aye | 03:35 |
| IdleOne | Belgium I think would be a blast. I speak French fluently | 03:36 |
| paultag | Oh wow | 03:36 |
| paultag | I want one in Germany | 03:36 |
| paultag | IdleOne: of course, Canada, duh | 03:36 |
| * paultag dur | 03:36 | |
| IdleOne | Majority of Canadians don't speak French | 03:36 |
| paultag | That shocks me | 03:36 |
| paultag | French-Canadian, it's what I think of when I think Canada | 03:37 |
| paultag | that and "Eh?" | 03:37 |
| IdleOne | Quebec and a few small towns near Winnipeg, New Brunswick there are pockets of French speakers also | 03:37 |
| paultag | Anywho, I wana go to Germany for a UDS | 03:38 |
| paultag | I'd love to sharpen up on my German | 03:38 |
| IdleOne | never liked the German language | 03:39 |
| IdleOne | to rough | 03:40 |
| paultag | Bah | 03:40 |
| * IdleOne speaks French, Italian and Spanish | 03:40 | |
| paultag | English is a Germanic language | 03:40 |
| * IdleOne is a lover :P | 03:40 | |
| paultag | German is a romantic language | 03:40 |
| IdleOne | hahaha | 03:40 |
| paultag | ICHKK LIEBIE DICCHHHH | 03:40 |
| IdleOne | remember the CoC! | 03:41 |
| IdleOne | lol | 03:41 |
| paultag | Hahaha, That means "I love you" | 03:41 |
| paultag | spelled how it sounds | 03:41 |
| paultag | IdleOne: ^ | 03:42 |
| IdleOne | German is not known for it's romance | 03:42 |
| paultag | you've clearly never seen a picture of a German chick | 03:42 |
| paultag | :P | 03:42 |
| paultag | *cough* anyway | 03:43 |
| IdleOne | I didn't say nothing about the people in germany | 03:43 |
| IdleOne | just the language | 03:43 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 03:43 |
| IdleOne | Rocky and Apollo are about to beat each other up | 03:44 |
| * IdleOne will be back :P | 03:44 | |
| paultag | Hells yes | 03:44 |
| stlsaint | hey any of you smart people know why when a broswer window is opened it also opens up 4 TCP connections? | 03:48 |
| zkriesse | Nada... | 03:49 |
| zkriesse | what browser? | 03:49 |
| stlsaint | chrome | 03:49 |
| paultag | yeah stlsaint | 03:49 |
| zkriesse | Hmm | 03:49 |
| paultag | stlsaint: it's called pipelining | 03:49 |
| zkriesse | paultag: What's that? | 03:49 |
| paultag | stlsaint: it does more then one request on more then one session to load things in parralell | 03:49 |
| stlsaint | im not following ya | 03:50 |
| * stlsaint is gonna take b12 injections to lower my headaches! :D | 03:50 | |
| paultag | zkriesse: OK, so network transmission protocols cap how much you can throw down one pipe. Since you can't send more through the pipe, get more pipes | 03:50 |
| paultag | stlsaint: :) | 03:50 |
| zkriesse | Ok | 03:50 |
| zkriesse | So it'll open more pipes | 03:50 |
| paultag | zkriesse: so when you load page.html, and it has img1, img2 and img3 | 03:51 |
| seidos | so pipelining is done to increase bandwidth? | 03:51 |
| paultag | zkriesse: it will load page.html, and load images on different pipes | 03:51 |
| paultag | seidos: through-put | 03:51 |
| stlsaint | ooooohhhhhh | 03:51 |
| === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 | ||
| * seidos looks up through-put | 03:51 | |
| paultag | seidos: throughput is how it's usually spelled | 03:51 |
| stlsaint | yea when i load google it opens 4 connections | 03:51 |
| paultag | seidos: but it looks scarry, so I break it apart | 03:52 |
| paultag | seidos: makes sense :) | 03:52 |
| paultag | seidos: it also keeps them active via a persistant HTML protocol | 03:52 |
| paultag | you stlsaint | 03:52 |
| paultag | not you seidos sorry | 03:52 |
| paultag | stlsaint: so that it does not have to establish every time it does an AJAX call | 03:52 |
| paultag | ( which is most of the time with google ) | 03:52 |
| seidos | ah, essentially synonymous to digital bandwidth consumption | 03:52 |
| paultag | seidos: yeah, it's how well you can use the bandwidth | 03:53 |
| stlsaint | paultag: crap, facebook opens 15 connections | 03:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: yup, sounds right | 03:53 |
| stlsaint | paultag: i gotcha, thanks for that quick lesson, i can stop bugging out now :D | 03:53 |
| paultag | stlsaint: sure thing | 03:53 |
| stlsaint | l8er folks | 03:53 |
| paultag | l8r sk8r | 03:53 |
| robbmunson | facebook opens up 15 connections? that doesnt sound right...... | 03:54 |
| robbmunson | oh well.... | 03:54 |
| seidos | does firefox use pipelining? | 03:55 |
| paultag | robbmunson: yeah it does :) | 03:55 |
| paultag | seidos: yeah | 03:55 |
| paultag | seidos: check in about:config for under the hood | 03:55 |
| paultag | robbmunson: it has to do about that much activly for AJAX | 03:55 |
| paultag | robbmunson: and one pipe per persistant ajax wait | 03:55 |
| paultag | sounds good to me | 03:55 |
| seidos | it looks like pipelining is set to false | 03:56 |
| paultag | seidos: humm, it might just enable pipes for JS only and not do that with image loading | 03:56 |
| paultag | seidos: set it to true and cap it at 15 or so | 03:56 |
| seidos | all right, done | 03:57 |
| paultag | :) | 03:57 |
| seidos | man, I should've majored in computer science, there is no way I'm going to learn all this stuff | 03:58 |
| zkriesse | hello nomnex | 03:58 |
| IdleOne | paultag: turns out Rocky lost the fight | 03:58 |
| paultag | IdleOne: haha, oh noes | 03:58 |
| paultag | seidos: :P | 03:58 |
| IdleOne | Rocky 2 is next, will see what happens :) | 03:59 |
| paultag | Report back! | 03:59 |
| IdleOne | will do. I might have to blog about this | 04:00 |
| Jason1 | paultag: thanks for all your help! | 04:12 |
| paultag | Jason1: sure :) | 04:12 |
| paultag | Jason1: best of luck restoring! | 04:12 |
| Jason1 | Im uploading back to a clean server now | 04:12 |
| paultag | :D | 04:13 |
| Jason1 | does this look correct?? tar -xvf /srv srv.tar.gz | 04:19 |
| Jason1 | that will unpack the file into the /srv directory? | 04:19 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, you need -C to specify a directory to unpack | 04:19 |
| Jason1 | tar -xvfC /srv srv.tar.gz ? | 04:20 |
| bodhizazen | tar xvf -C /srv srv.tar.gz | 04:20 |
| paultag | Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv .. | 04:20 |
| paultag | hey bodhizazen | 04:20 |
| bodhizazen | yes, see man tar | 04:20 |
| bodhizazen | paultag, you are too slow | 04:20 |
| bodhizazen | Just finished dinner - Thai food - Pumpkin and coconut curry w/ tofu - yum yum | 04:21 |
| paultag | bodhizazen: woo! :) | 04:21 |
| bodhizazen | Tomorrow - Skiing | 04:21 |
| Jason1 | what part of the world? | 04:21 |
| bodhizazen | Mt Hood - Oregon | 04:22 |
| bodhizazen | This internet connection sucks | 04:22 |
| bodhizazen | http://www.timberlinelodge.com/ | 04:23 |
| bodhizazen | wb pedro3005 | 04:23 |
| pedro3005 | hello bodhizazen | 04:23 |
| robbmunson | wellllll hellooooooooooo there bodhi =D | 04:23 |
| Jason1 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now ??? | 04:25 |
| paultag | Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv/ /path/to/archive.tar.gz | 04:25 |
| paultag | Jason1: what's the error? | 04:26 |
| seidos | Jason1, are you trying to extract a file or create one? | 04:26 |
| Jason1 | extract | 04:26 |
| paultag | seidos: his old file from the broked server | 04:26 |
| seidos | paultag, so -C /srv/ extracts it to that directory? | 04:27 |
| paultag | seidos: yessir | 04:27 |
| bodhizazen | seidos, yes, but ... | 04:27 |
| paultag | Jason1: might need a sudo or change order | 04:27 |
| bodhizazen | you may need to use sudo | 04:27 |
| paultag | Jason1: or mk the dir | 04:27 |
| paultag | bodhizazen: too slow :) | 04:27 |
| bodhizazen | you could extract it in $HOME and move it | 04:27 |
| paultag | that's what i'd do | 04:27 |
| Jason1 | tar: -C: Cannot open: No such file or directory | 04:31 |
| Jason1 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 04:31 |
| Jason1 | tar: Child returned status 2 | 04:31 |
| Jason1 | tar: srvfile.tar.gz: Not found in archive | 04:31 |
| Jason1 | tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors | 04:31 |
| paultag | Jason1: sudo mkdir /srv | 04:32 |
| paultag | Jason1: and re-run | 04:32 |
| Jason1 | the folder /srv already exists | 04:32 |
| paultag | Jason1: sudo tar -zxvf ..... | 04:33 |
| paultag | Jason1: try that. run sudo !! | 04:33 |
| Jason1 | im logged in as root | 04:34 |
| paultag | Jason1: what command did you run? | 04:35 |
| seidos | when I was logged in as a root, back in the day, my friends here on irc told me that was a bad idea. | 04:35 |
| paultag | seidos: +1 | 04:35 |
| paultag | still is | 04:35 |
| Jason1 | funny.. let me logout and turn off root... brb | 04:35 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, cd into the directory that has the tar ball or use the full path | 04:36 |
| bodhizazen | seidos, logging into X as root is not good, su - , sudo -i , or logging in to a console or ssh is "OK" | 04:36 |
| Jason1 | user add jason | 04:37 |
| Jason1 | (no space) | 04:37 |
| bodhizazen | So I have been on a health kick - lost 30 Lbs , hiked 6 miles + 1,000 ft elevation in 2 hours | 04:38 |
| seidos | bodhizazen, that's what I hear. I never really got into why, figured it was just easier to take everyone's word for it. | 04:38 |
| paultag | fsck() darn bodhizazen. I need to work out | 04:38 |
| paultag | bodhizazen: I just hit 220 @ 6'. I'm pissed. | 04:38 |
| paultag | This is the worst i've been in a long time | 04:38 |
| seidos | I've been doing jumping jacks, push ups, hindu squats. I walked a bunch for the jog I briefly had, but not 6 miles, that's crazy. I probably walked two, but I'm not sure, I wasn't counting. | 04:38 |
| bodhizazen | My blood pressure is way down and my resting pulse is 55 | 04:39 |
| robbmunson | ill be back later, gotta go straighten out the crooked boards that are my kids..... | 04:39 |
| seidos | robbmunson, good luck | 04:39 |
| robbmunson | seidos: thanks, I will need it....LOL | 04:39 |
| seidos | my resting pulse is 80. I've never seen it less than that. | 04:40 |
| seidos | I'm not sure how exercise reduces resting pulse, but I hear that it does. | 04:41 |
| seidos | I heard Lance Armstrong's resting pulse was like 40 or something | 04:41 |
| paultag | Yeah and Michal Jackson's is 0 | 04:42 |
| paultag | seems like lower could cause issues | 04:42 |
| seidos | may he rest in peace | 04:42 |
| bodhizazen | LOL paultag | 04:43 |
| seidos | paultag, yeah, I think you have a point. There is probably an optimal range. | 04:43 |
| * seidos didn't think of that | 04:43 | |
| robbmunson | .......back.......(when I said later, i didnt mean like hours, lol.) | 04:43 |
| paultag | :) | 04:43 |
| seidos | robbmunson, wb | 04:43 |
| seidos | heh, maybe the optimal range is 0, I hate to be overly realistic but that's where everyone seems to be headed | 04:44 |
| robbmunson | the sudden shock factor of a door flinging open and daddy sayin "you kids better shut up and get to bed" does the trick.....they were in the next room over. | 04:44 |
| seidos | s/range/value | 04:44 |
| robbmunson | seidos: I agree....thats got to be it. | 04:45 |
| paultag | seidos: hum hahaha | 04:45 |
| Jason1 | where do I put my public key I just generated? | 04:45 |
| paultag | Jason1: upload to a keyserver | 04:45 |
| robbmunson | Jason1: upload it to a.....^ | 04:45 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, public key goes on server | 04:45 |
| paultag | robbmunson: continue :) | 04:45 |
| Jason1 | i know.. which folder? | 04:45 |
| paultag | I need to do some work right quick | 04:45 |
| paultag | /bbl | 04:45 |
| TJ__ | Hi all | 04:46 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, ssh-copy-id | 04:46 |
| bodhizazen | http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-copy-id | 04:46 |
| bodhizazen | 'lo tdn | 04:46 |
| * bodhizazen tab_fail | 04:46 | |
| Jason1 | im on a windows machine using putty to get to my server | 04:47 |
| bodhizazen | 'lo TJ__ | 04:47 |
| bodhizazen | Oh, copy the key to ~/.ssh | 04:47 |
| bodhizazen | cat key_name > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys | 04:47 |
| TJ__ | I have a problem. My main ubuntu partition is locked and I'm unable to log into it, because I'm getting an error - The configuration defaults for Gnome Power Manager have not been installed correctly | 04:47 |
| TJ__ | I've figured out that the partition is likely full | 04:48 |
| TJ__ | but I'm unable to remove anything or access the home folder to recover the files I need before I can wipe/reinstall or fix anything | 04:48 |
| bodhizazen | Take out the trash TJ__ | 04:48 |
| bodhizazen | Boot to recovery mode | 04:48 |
| === ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse | ||
| TJ__ | It still wouldn't let me log in | 04:48 |
| bodhizazen | When you boot to recovery mode, you are logged in as root | 04:49 |
| TJ__ | I'll go try that again | 04:49 |
| TJ__ | brb | 04:49 |
| bodhizazen | If that fails, you will need to boot a live CD, mount your Ubuntu partition, and clean it up | 04:49 |
| TJ__ | Well I had some success mounting the partition, in an attempt to unlock the encrypted home folder, but am unable to clear any space to login that way either...is there a command I'm missing to remove a file/directory to clear up a bit of space? | 04:50 |
| TJ__ | Or should I just try recover mode again first? | 04:50 |
| bodhizazen | If home is encrypted you are in for some hurt =) | 04:51 |
| IdleOne | paultag: Rocky just got fired from the meat plant :( | 04:51 |
| IdleOne | very sad situation | 04:52 |
| paultag | IdleOne: oh noe | 04:52 |
| paultag | IdleOne: how will he ever recover?! | 04:52 |
| IdleOne | looks like he is going against his doctors advice | 04:53 |
| IdleOne | he's going to fight! | 04:54 |
| IdleOne | SPOILER! | 04:54 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 04:54 |
| paultag | Oh shoot! | 04:54 |
| robbmunson | My ubuntu server cd just came in the mail =D | 04:55 |
| IdleOne | yay for free cd's | 04:55 |
| robbmunson | yay for being lazy. Good thing it wasnt something I absolutely needed right now. | 04:56 |
| IdleOne | So i need to make a hackergotchi | 04:57 |
| IdleOne | First I need a picture of myself | 04:57 |
| robbmunson | Good luck, its tedious.... | 04:57 |
| IdleOne | only tedious if you try to do it perfect | 04:57 |
| IdleOne | but | 04:58 |
| IdleOne | I have a plan | 04:58 |
| robbmunson | im a perfectionist IdleOne... | 04:58 |
| IdleOne | I intend on purposely make it bad | 04:58 |
| IdleOne | :) | 04:58 |
| IdleOne | s/make/making | 04:58 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, poke | 04:59 |
| bodhizazen | tar xvf archive.tar -C /var | 04:59 |
| * zkriesse hugs bodhizazen | 04:59 | |
| bodhizazen | put the -C last | 04:59 |
| JoeMaverickSett | how do i join the beginners team? | 05:01 |
| IdleOne | launchpad | 05:01 |
| IdleOne | and send me $5 | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | joining the team is free | 05:02 |
| JoeMaverickSett | LOL! | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | the 5 bucks is a loan | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | :) | 05:02 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i would go to court for charging me $5. =P | 05:02 |
| bodhizazen | 'lo JoeMaverickSett =) | 05:03 |
| bodhizazen | You are in the right place | 05:03 |
| JoeMaverickSett | haha! | 05:03 |
| * bodhizazen wonders if we have a policy re: membership | 05:04 | |
| IdleOne | JoeMaverickSett: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners | 05:04 |
| JoeMaverickSett | IdleOne, okie. | 05:05 |
| IdleOne | team seems to be restricted | 05:06 |
| IdleOne | I don't see a join link | 05:07 |
| JoeMaverickSett | nvm then. | 05:07 |
| IdleOne | you gave up quick | 05:08 |
| IdleOne | poke zkriesse ^^^ | 05:08 |
| JoeMaverickSett | lol! this channel is enough atm. | 05:08 |
| bodhizazen | JoeMaverickSett, ask paultag | 05:08 |
| JoeMaverickSett | bodhizazen, alrighty. | 05:09 |
| paultag | what? | 05:09 |
| paultag | darn kids pinging me | 05:09 |
| * JoeMaverickSett hides under his laptop! =P | 05:10 | |
| Jason1 | i just did useradd -g sudo jason but I don't have a home folder | 05:10 |
| Jason1 | am i supposed to make that mysefl? | 05:10 |
| paultag | Jason1: sudo adduser | 05:10 |
| IdleOne | JoeMaverickSett: don't be scared of paultag, his bark is way worse then his bite | 05:10 |
| JoeMaverickSett | lol! | 05:10 |
| Jason1 | i was root when I made it | 05:11 |
| IdleOne | Jason1: you enabled a root account in Ubuntu? | 05:11 |
| paultag | IdleOne: way to ruin my fun | 05:11 |
| IdleOne | paultag: I didn't tell him that you actually do bite lol | 05:11 |
| paultag | :P | 05:12 |
| JoeMaverickSett | haha! | 05:12 |
| JoeMaverickSett | paultag, IdleOne was telling me about the ubuntu-beginners-team on launchpad. says it's restricted. | 05:12 |
| Jason1 | im logged in as root so I can create the user accounts | 05:13 |
| JoeMaverickSett | could i join that? | 05:13 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: You need to become a member | 05:14 |
| paultag | JoeMaverickSett: There is a membership process outlined on the wiki | 05:14 |
| JoeMaverickSett | paultag, okie. taking a look at it now. | 05:14 |
| IdleOne | Jason1: Ubuntu does not have a root account to log into, that means you enabled the root account. WHY? | 05:15 |
| bodhizazen | paultag, you like my new avatar ? | 05:16 |
| bodhizazen | http://ubuntuforums.org/customavatars/avatar89054_118.gif | 05:16 |
| paultag | bodhizazen: that's awesome as hell | 05:16 |
| paultag | bodhizazen: kick some ass :) | 05:16 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, did you see my last message ? | 05:17 |
| Jason1 | ok im logged in as me now but sudo su to root | 05:18 |
| bodhizazen | re: tar ? | 05:18 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, sudo -i | 05:18 |
| bodhizazen | lol | 05:18 |
| bodhizazen | then | 05:18 |
| IdleOne | The thing is, being in the beginners channel asking about adding a user account and then stating you are logged in as root. IS exactly why root is locked by default. | 05:18 |
| Jason1 | im running 10.04 lts server | 05:18 |
| bodhizazen | tar xvf archive.tar -C /var | 05:18 |
| Jason1 | root is disabled | 05:20 |
| Jason1 | im in here to learn. If Im doing something that isn't smart let me know. | 05:25 |
| Jason1 | just typing in commands doesn't mean I actually understand what it is doing., | 05:26 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, were you able to extract the archive to /var ? | 05:30 |
| bodhizazen | and sudo -i is preferred to sudo su | 05:30 |
| Jason1 | I was not because I caught flack for being logged in as root. So I've been trying to "properly" setup a sudo user and then do it. | 05:34 |
| Jason1 | i did useradd -g sudo jason | 05:34 |
| Jason1 | there is no home directory though | 05:34 |
| Jason1 | (for jason) | 05:34 |
| Dextralus | Ha! :D I got the wireless working on my samsung n220 | 05:35 |
| Jason1 | i turned off root from the sshd_config file and am now on "jason" with sudo su | 05:35 |
| bodhizazen | how did you add your user ? | 05:36 |
| Jason1 | useradd jason | 05:38 |
| bodhizazen | Jason1, use adduser next time | 05:43 |
| bodhizazen | adduser Jason | 05:43 |
| bodhizazen | that will make a /home for you | 05:43 |
| bodhizazen | ttfn | 05:47 |
| bodhizazen | my internet connection sucks | 05:47 |
| JoeMaverickSett | even if i have a mentor in Ubuntu Youth, i still need to find a mentor in Ubuntu Beginners Team, is that right? | 05:55 |
| slidinghorn | JoeMaverickSett, I believe that's the case | 06:18 |
| JoeMaverickSett | slidinghorn, alright. thanks. | 06:19 |
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| === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn | ||
| homeero | hi.. i used to have wubi installed for ubuntu 10.04, but i deleted it and installed in a new partition.. however i did "dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt" | 07:05 |
| homeero | that gave me a text file with all the packages i had installed | 07:05 |
| homeero | so i ran another command to make apt-get to install all of them.. but the terminal says it is going to uninstall "grub-pc" so can i uninstall it and then reinstall it.. or is it unnecesary | 07:06 |
| homeero | ... did i explained myself? | 07:07 |
| hobgoblin | homeero: yes you did explain yourself, I'd not be letting it remove grub-pc | 07:21 |
| hobgoblin | but you could as you say reinstall it afterwards - or just remove it from the text file | 07:22 |
| homeero | so.. i tried removing the "grub-pc uninstall" part from the text file but it will want to remove it anyways | 07:22 |
| homeero | i guess ill just reinstall it afterwards | 07:22 |
| homeero | Thanks hobgoblin | 07:23 |
| hobgoblin | personally I prefer to just install what I need - a large proportion of anything on the list will be installed anyway and it's easy to miss something | 07:24 |
| homeero | i would do that but i messed around with the packages and stuff and i liked the apps i had installed.. and im sure ill end up forgetting something so ill just mass install everything i had earlier | 07:26 |
| hobgoblin | lol - well I have a list of the things I need to install - so it is a oneliner anyway - the most important thing to have in my opinion are any configs you have edited and if you have a copy of /home then you have user specific confs for apps that need them | 07:27 |
| homeero | actually i tried backing up /home.. but i couldnt.. but anyways i can re-configure all the apps | 07:30 |
| hobgoblin | homeero: all you need to do is copy /home/user/whatever - needs to be in the same name though I suspect | 07:32 |
| homeero | ok.. so ill install about 2 Gb of packages.. wish me luck.. | 07:32 |
| homeero | cya and thak you | 07:32 |
| homeero | ohh nvm i already trashed the wubi instalation.. | 07:33 |
| homeero | cyaa | 07:33 |
| zkriesse | Hell yeah bodhi...kick ass | 08:31 |
| === kermiac_ is now known as k | ||
| === k is now known as kermiac | ||
| Fanshawe | how do I edit the default program a file is opened with? 'Preferred applications' is no help here. | 11:06 |
| JoeMaverickSett | Fanshawe, right click >> Properties >> Open With, how about that? or is it the same as what you are saying? | 11:09 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: right click on file concerned, choose: open with other application, and ensure you tick the check box is always wanted | 11:09 |
| * JoeMaverickSett also agrees with suprengr! | 11:09 | |
| Fanshawe | Thank you. That worked for individual files, but I'm trying to do this for a folder where there is no 'properties' tab. | 11:10 |
| Fanshawe | I sometimes open entire folders (albums) in a media player that's no longer installed. | 11:10 |
| Fanshawe | Nautilus is still the default program, but the uninstalled one is stuck in the context menu, | 11:11 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: thought about creating a playlist in the media player concerned? | 11:12 |
| Fanshawe | that's what I normally would do, yeah | 11:13 |
| Fanshawe | But I just used that as another way of opening albums | 11:14 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: what about open folder, selecting all files and ~THEN~ choosing open with... | 11:15 |
| Fanshawe | that would've worked too, yes, but then I didn't think my media player would be irreversibly listed in Nautilus' context menu | 11:18 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: why not? | 11:19 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: is the real problem that you have an uninstalled app still showing in context menu? | 11:20 |
| Fanshawe | yes | 11:23 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: reinstall it ,then do what you need to, then uninstall it. perhaps ;) | 11:24 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: if still a no-go after that... maybe try #ubuntu ?? | 11:26 |
| suprengr | Fanshawe: tried Configuration Editor? | 11:47 |
| geirha | Fanshawe: Do you get any output when you run this in a terminal? grep x-directory ~/.local/share/applications/mime* | 11:56 |
| stlsaint | man that sucks | 14:47 |
| Jason3 | Can someone help me figure out in the /etc/hosts file, when I am trying to setup a FQDN the third coloumn is what the machine thinks it is called? For localhost its pretty opbvious. but if I have just set my machine name to "gatorade" does it go X.X.X.X www.mymachine.com gatorade? | 15:24 |
| paultag | Jason3: 64.251.17.50 Seraphiel.Whube.com Seraphiel | 15:24 |
| paultag | Jason3: that's a line from one of my servers | 15:24 |
| paultag | Jason3: caps kinda suck, but you can ignore that | 15:25 |
| paultag | I set it up a while ago | 15:25 |
| geirha | The format is explained in ''man hosts'' | 15:33 |
| paultag | +1 geirha | 15:33 |
| Jason3 | still getting a problem "sudo: unable to resolve host gatorade" after I do sudo -i | 16:14 |
| hobgoblin | Jason3: check this thread out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361 | 16:17 |
| Jason3 | still getting the error. Im sure though it has to do with the config file | 16:22 |
| Jason3 | err.. hosts | 16:22 |
| Jason3 | 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost | 16:23 |
| Jason3 | x.x.x.x mywebsite.com gatorade | 16:23 |
| aveilleux | Jason3: Is x.x.x.x actually in your hosts file? | 16:24 |
| Jason3 | hahah no.. i removed the numbers | 16:26 |
| aveilleux | Jason3: Just checking | 16:26 |
| Jason3 | no prob | 16:27 |
| Jason3 | argh! fixed it! didn't type in the #s correctly | 16:30 |
| aveilleux | Ahhh. | 16:31 |
| hobgoblin | so it was the file then ;) | 16:31 |
| Jason3 | it was user error! =) | 16:49 |
| aveilleux | Jason3: There's a term for that... PEBKAC | 16:50 |
| aveilleux | Jason3: Though addmitedly that's a term usually reserved for plebs | 16:51 |
| hobgoblin | or anyone else :) | 16:51 |
| hobgoblin | don't try and tell me you never succumbed to pebkac aveilleux :) | 16:52 |
| aveilleux | hobgoblin: NUH UH I'M A COMPYOOTER GOD | 16:52 |
| isiah | I need a copy of starcraft 2, but dont want to pay 60 bucks for it | 16:52 |
| aveilleux | isiah: Wait a few months for it to go down in price | 16:52 |
| isiah | do you think they will trade me for a pint of blood? | 16:52 |
| isiah | slightly used | 16:53 |
| isiah | all those koreans are getting good at the game as we speak | 16:54 |
| isiah | by the time I get a copy they will be much more powerful | 16:55 |
| hobgoblin | never ceases to amaze me you lot sell blood :) | 16:55 |
| isiah | I actually heard they dont pay for blood anymore | 16:56 |
| isiah | or organs | 16:56 |
| hobgoblin | supposed to be giving a pint of mine next week I think | 16:56 |
| isiah | I cant do that | 16:58 |
| isiah | honestly I am terrified of needles | 16:59 |
| aveilleux | isiah: The koreans have been good at SC2 since the alpha release | 16:59 |
| isiah | everyday they get better | 16:59 |
| isiah | and I become more of a newb | 17:00 |
| hobgoblin | isiah: you would not have liked the last blood test I ahd then - 4 goes trying to get blood from a wrist artery - in the end I fainted - it hurt ... | 17:00 |
| isiah | I got into a car accident a few years back, and they had to run a line of pain killers into me. The guy took a look at my arm before he started and screamed "quick get the intern". According to him I have like the best possible veins for this and could be a great drug addict, so they wanted the intern to practice on me | 17:02 |
| hobgoblin | lol | 17:03 |
| isiah | I think that was the moment I became terrified of needles | 17:04 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 17:04 |
| isiah | has someone written a tutorial on running starcraft2 through wine yet? | 17:05 |
| hobgoblin | no idea - it's a game so I ignore it | 17:09 |
| aveilleux | isiah: I don't think it's been done yet | 17:09 |
| hobgoblin | I would say hi st33med - but I don't think I will | 17:09 |
| st33med | :( | 17:09 |
| * st33med sits in a corner and cries | 17:09 | |
| hobgoblin | oh | 17:09 |
| hobgoblin | :( | 17:09 |
| hobgoblin | hi st3 :) | 17:09 |
| st33med | MEANIE! | 17:09 |
| st33med | Hi :) | 17:10 |
| hobgoblin | tab fail | 17:10 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 17:10 |
| isiah | the only two reasons I keep windows around is netflix and video games | 17:10 |
| hobgoblin | the only windows I have now is an old win2k install disc and some glassy things in the walls | 17:11 |
| isiah | I would like to mess around with apple stuff | 17:11 |
| hobgoblin | isiah: I'd like an orchard and a house to go with it | 17:13 |
| JoeMaverickSett | how do i get back my OpenPGP key, if i reinstalled my pc? | 17:13 |
| isiah | I have that already | 17:13 |
| isiah | but only two apple trees so far | 17:14 |
| isiah | JoeMaverickSett: you lost your public or private key? | 17:17 |
| JoeMaverickSett | isiah, no i was thinking what if i had to reinstall the whole pc. how would i recover then? | 17:17 |
| JoeMaverickSett | no keys lost yet. | 17:17 |
| isiah | basically you should export your public key to one of those databases | 17:18 |
| isiah | and your private key can be exported locally to say your desktop, where you can copy it to like a memory stick | 17:18 |
| JoeMaverickSett | if i had signed the CoC, that means that my public key is on the server, right? | 17:19 |
| isiah | check the server | 17:19 |
| isiah | just go there and search fro yourself | 17:19 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i've signed it. =D | 17:19 |
| isiah | I did that once and found that over the years I have made like 50 keys | 17:19 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: No, that's just the public key. Your private key is not on the server. | 17:19 |
| JoeMaverickSett | oh! | 17:20 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: I'm not on Linux right now, but I think it should be on file in ~/.ssh somewhere | 17:20 |
| isiah | honestly, I know a lot of people who just include there public key in there email signature | 17:20 |
| JoeMaverickSett | the private key? aveilleux. | 17:20 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Yes, I think it's in there. I'd have to reboot to Ubuntu to check, though. | 17:21 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Let me do that now. | 17:21 |
| isiah | hehee, you really should encrypt your private key | 17:21 |
| JoeMaverickSett | aveilleux, don't do it just for me. | 17:22 |
| JoeMaverickSett | =D | 17:22 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Don't worry, I've got three computers :3 | 17:22 |
| JoeMaverickSett | aveilleux, wow! =D | 17:22 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Just gotta boot up one of my other ones | 17:22 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Well, seven if you count the server and the three computers in my closet | 17:23 |
| * JoeMaverickSett salutes aveilleux. | 17:23 | |
| JoeMaverickSett | =) | 17:23 |
| isiah | I only got 3 comps | 17:23 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Wait nooo that's RSA, not PGP | 17:24 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i just did install xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu, then when i wanted to convert back to Ubuntu, i think i sort of first removed xubuntu-desktop first. so, i'm thinking i might need a re-installation. | 17:24 |
| isiah | I wonder what encryption algorithms Batman uses? | 17:24 |
| JoeMaverickSett | =( | 17:24 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: No, you just need to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 17:25 |
| JoeMaverickSett | then? next step? aveilleux. | 17:25 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: That's all you need to do, assuming you have a functioning command-line system | 17:25 |
| JoeMaverickSett | now i'm kinda like on xubuntu, i just did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version" | 17:26 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: At the login screen, look at the bottom (after selecting your username). In the "Sessions" dropdown menu, select "GNOME". | 17:27 |
| JoeMaverickSett | eh, that is possible. but then the splash screen? | 17:27 |
| JoeMaverickSett | it's still Xubuntu. =D | 17:27 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i tried sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash. but no go. | 17:28 |
| JoeMaverickSett | or my command is wrong? | 17:28 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't use usplash anymore, it uses ssssssomething else I don't remember the name of. | 17:28 |
| IdleOne | plymouth | 17:29 |
| aveilleux | IdleOne +1 | 17:29 |
| JoeMaverickSett | aveilleux, oh! i'm such a newbie. | 17:29 |
| JoeMaverickSett | so, how do i remove that? | 17:29 |
| JoeMaverickSett | sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth? =P | 17:30 |
| IdleOne | JoeMaverickSett: look for something like xubuntu artwork plymouth or some such | 17:30 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html Maybe? | 17:30 |
| IdleOne | !puregnome | 17:30 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'puregnome' not found | 17:30 |
| JoeMaverickSett | hehe! "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth" is no go. =) | 17:30 |
| paultag | you can't ever really remove plymouth | 17:31 |
| paultag | it's built into the kernel, dawg | 17:31 |
| paultag | you can remove splash from grub | 17:31 |
| paultag | but it's still "there" | 17:31 |
| aveilleux | JoeMaverickSett: http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-change-plymouth-themes-initial-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-10-04 This might be more like what you're looking for | 17:31 |
| IdleOne | he is not removing plymouth but the artwork file that plymouth uses | 17:31 |
| JoeMaverickSett | hehe! i don't quite understand it yet. still learning. | 17:31 |
| IdleOne | !purexfce | 17:32 |
| ubot2 | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 17:32 |
| hobgoblin | last time I used on of aysiu's puredesktop things it went wrong | 17:32 |
| aveilleux | IdleOne, he doesn't want XFCE. He wants to revert back to GNOME. | 17:32 |
| JoeMaverickSett | ah! nope, i want to remove all Xfce. and have back all Gnome. | 17:32 |
| JoeMaverickSett | yeah. that's the case. | 17:32 |
| hobgoblin | then there is a pure gnome one too | 17:32 |
| IdleOne | aveilleux: yeah I am trying to find the correct package name | 17:33 |
| aveilleux | IdleOne, JoeMaverickSett: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome | 17:33 |
| IdleOne | that's the one | 17:33 |
| hobgoblin | JoeMaverickSett: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ is a good resource to bookmark fullstop | 17:33 |
| IdleOne | xubuntu-plymouth-theme | 17:34 |
| JoeMaverickSett | trying that now. yeah i'm going to "Read It Later" bookmark. hobgoblin. | 17:34 |
| IdleOne | remove that and log out then back in and should see the ubuntu splash | 17:34 |
| hobgoblin | the only thing missing from there now is a dualboot page - he changed it to wubi | 17:34 |
| IdleOne | or run the entire command just to make sure | 17:35 |
| JoeMaverickSett | after that should i do sudo /etc/init.d/dmg restart ? | 17:35 |
| JoeMaverickSett | or is it the right command? | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | alt-sysrq-k | 17:35 |
| JoeMaverickSett | oh! | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | or ctrl-alt-del if you enabled it | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | !dontzap | 17:35 |
| ubot2 | To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap | 17:35 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i think the former one will work. | 17:36 |
| IdleOne | err ctrl-alt-backspace | 17:36 |
| JoeMaverickSett | brb! | 17:39 |
| IdleOne | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome | 17:43 |
| shahan | Happy Friendship Day to all | 17:44 |
| shahan | :) | 17:44 |
| hobgoblin | hi shahan | 17:44 |
| === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 | ||
| shahan | hobgoblin: hello... happy friendship day | 17:44 |
| hobgoblin | IdleOne: someone copied it over then :) | 17:44 |
| JoeMaverickSett | i'm back and alive! =D | 17:44 |
| IdleOne | hobgoblin: I did | 17:45 |
| hobgoblin | or a ghost in the ether JoeMaverickSett :) | 17:45 |
| IdleOne | JoeMaverickSett: so everything is good now? | 17:45 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | heya shahan. Long time no see | 17:45 |
| JoeMaverickSett | =D | 17:45 |
| hobgoblin | IdleOne: good one | 17:45 |
| JoeMaverickSett | yeah, except that i lost my pidgin, xchat and virtualbox. =D | 17:45 |
| JoeMaverickSett | had to reinstall. | 17:45 |
| shahan | IAmNotThatGuy: ya... I was out of internet... And was doing for a website design | 17:45 |
| IdleOne | not to bad | 17:45 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | cool shahan | 17:46 |
| JoeMaverickSett | btw, thanks for helping this MOTU-wannabe-noob! =D | 17:46 |
| shahan | IAmNotThatGuy: nice to meet you | 17:46 |
| shahan | Just 5 mins ago, while I was starting the PC, a message appeared in a BLACK screen and its hang | 17:46 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | shahan: IAmNotThatGuy | 17:47 |
| shahan | (Process:325): GLib-warning ** : getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0) | 17:47 |
| shahan | Then I restart the PC (ctrl+alt+delete), I have backed the Desktop. Why this has been appeared? Is my PC going to be crashed? | 17:47 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | Hmm..graphics library file is showing an error...... | 17:48 |
| jagan185 | HI everyone. | 17:48 |
| JoeMaverickSett | Yo! wad up? jagan185. | 17:49 |
| hobgoblin | good whatever time it is there to you jagan185 | 17:49 |
| jagan185 | If I wanted to migrate from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 with a new installation, can save my settings, applications etc.... | 17:49 |
| hobgoblin | you should be able to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - backup, I'd also make sure to remove all 3rd party repos and do an install of ubuntu-desktop | 17:51 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | shahan: It seems It is a bug http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443231&page=3 | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | !separatehome | 17:52 |
| ubot2 | Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome | 17:52 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | thats the thread where people discussed about that | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | another useful link from them crazy kittehs | 17:52 |
| hobgoblin | IdleOne: another one I've used :) | 17:54 |
| IdleOne | me too | 17:54 |
| IdleOne | haven't looked back since lol | 17:54 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 17:54 |
| IdleOne | /home is a beautiful thing | 17:54 |
| hobgoblin | I think I had that site as a home page when I started :) | 17:55 |
| IdleOne | my home page is #ubuntu | 17:55 |
| paultag | I just wrote a hello world app in c | 17:55 |
| IdleOne | I don't need to bookmark, the bot does it for me | 17:55 |
| paultag | anyone wana see? | 17:55 |
| IdleOne | lol | 17:55 |
| paultag | http://pastebin.com/K6A6ANqi <-- just done | 17:55 |
| paultag | What? Don't believe me? Compile it! | 17:56 |
| hobgoblin | IdleOne: I only go there to see how much better the grass is on the other side | 17:56 |
| hobgoblin | IdleOne: my home page is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87 | 17:56 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 17:56 |
| jagan185 | Thanks ubot2. | 17:57 |
| hobgoblin | paultag: I always believe you ... | 17:57 |
| paultag | :) | 17:57 |
| paultag | Because it's flippen sweet | 17:57 |
| hobgoblin | and did you look that band up? | 17:57 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | OMG paultag. Is that needed to write that much biggy?? ?_? | 17:57 |
| jagan185 | What about the customisations, panels, docks? | 17:57 |
| paultag | hobgoblin: yes, and I loved them for sure | 17:57 |
| paultag | hobgoblin: I forgot their name though | 17:57 |
| hobgoblin | excellent | 17:57 |
| paultag | IAmNotThatGuy: I'm never one to take the easy route | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | I was never big on the forums | 17:57 |
| paultag | hobgoblin: what was their name again? | 17:58 |
| hobgoblin | stars of the lid | 17:58 |
| paultag | IdleOne: let me know if it compiles :3 | 17:58 |
| paultag | AH YES! | 17:58 |
| paultag | thanks hobgoblin :D | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | why would I want to compile that lol | 17:58 |
| drubin | paultag: wtf | 17:58 |
| paultag | IdleOne: because I wrote it lovingly | 17:58 |
| paultag | drubin: it works! | 17:58 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | paultag: do one thing, swim back to USA,then start walking towards Boston | 17:58 |
| paultag | a few -Wall errors | 17:58 |
| paultag | but totally worth it | 17:58 |
| paultag | IAmNotThatGuy: :) | 17:58 |
| drubin | paultag: what does it do? | 17:59 |
| paultag | tag@wintermute:~/TrashFolder/bfc$ ./test | 17:59 |
| paultag | Hello World! | 17:59 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | paultag: c'mon man you said "I'm never one to take the easy route" then take that | 17:59 |
| paultag | drubin: the most kickassists hello world in C ever | 17:59 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | :P | 17:59 |
| drubin | paultag: Ok it was worth it | 17:59 |
| paultag | IAmNotThatGuy: Pfft | 17:59 |
| paultag | drubin: It's pretty rad :) | 17:59 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | lol | 18:00 |
| paultag | drubin: I'm saving that for the next time I see a "How do I do hello world in c?" | 18:00 |
| drubin | geirha: How do you compile it? | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | paultag: can you script me a coffee cup that auto refills? | 18:00 |
| drubin | paultag: ^ gcc or soemthing else | 18:00 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I wish :/ | 18:00 |
| paultag | drubin: gcc works | 18:00 |
| paultag | drubin: a few -Wall warnings, but nothing to worry about | 18:01 |
| paultag | drubin: it's whining about how I use pointers. Pfft. | 18:01 |
| paultag | I could fix the return warning | 18:01 |
| paultag | but I don't really care | 18:01 |
| recognizer | hi, anybody have problem with the mouse cursor? It doesnt appear in the session start | 18:01 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | paultag: tweeted your program :D | 18:02 |
| paultag | thanks IAmNotThatGuy :D | 18:02 |
| drubin | wtf why does it compile to a.out | 18:02 |
| paultag | drubin: gcc -o test test.c | 18:02 |
| IdleOne | ok teach me | 18:03 |
| IdleOne | how do I compile that? | 18:03 |
| drubin | paultag: over it it works and is awezosme | 18:03 |
| paultag | IdleOne: that command I just posted to drubin | 18:03 |
| paultag | drubin: thanks :D | 18:03 |
| paultag | IdleOne: where test.c is the text in that pastebin | 18:03 |
| IdleOne | hmm all that did was put a new icon on my Desktop | 18:04 |
| paultag | IdleOne: hurm? | 18:04 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | in your home folder IdleOne | 18:05 |
| paultag | IdleOne: cd ~ | 18:05 |
| paultag | IdleOne: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi | 18:05 |
| paultag | IdleOne: mv raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi test.c | 18:05 |
| IdleOne | yeah I got the file, renamed to .c | 18:05 |
| paultag | IdleOne: gcc -o test test.c | 18:05 |
| paultag | IdleOne: ./test | 18:05 |
| drubin | paultag: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi -O test.c | 18:06 |
| paultag | <3 drubin | 18:06 |
| paultag | that's the one | 18:06 |
| drubin | I have had to wget some pretty DODGY urls and bash doesn't like renaming them P:) | 18:06 |
| IdleOne | Dude seriously! I was expecting to see fireworks or some cool stuff happen, like maybe it could pretend to delete /home or something lol | 18:06 |
| paultag | hahaha | 18:06 |
| drubin | when you have & and ? and = in file names | 18:06 |
| drubin | IdleOne: that is the most verbose hello world ever | 18:07 |
| paultag | IdleOne: not with that code. That's the biggest crapfest I've ever done | 18:07 |
| drubin | it is awesome | 18:07 |
| paultag | it rocks | 18:07 |
| paultag | it uses an array + a single pointer to do it | 18:07 |
| paultag | it's kinda like a turing machine | 18:07 |
| paultag | the "tape" has a max size but meh | 18:08 |
| paultag | it's just hello worl | 18:08 |
| paultag | d | 18:08 |
| IdleOne | paultag: In case you were wondering, Rocky went on to fight Mr. T and also some big Russian dude and won | 18:09 |
| IdleOne | Apollo is now dead :( | 18:09 |
| drubin | OMG I met Mr T on thursday night | 18:09 |
| Jason3 | I'm getting a pop-up to download the index.php file after installing php rather than it opening the page in my webbrowser. | 18:09 |
| Jason3 | ?? | 18:09 |
| IdleOne | drubin: did he pity you? | 18:09 |
| drubin | nah it was a friend, but his credit card had Mr T on it | 18:10 |
| drubin | it was awesome | 18:10 |
| IdleOne | lol | 18:10 |
| paultag | IdleOne: Ohnoes!! | 18:11 |
| paultag | drubin: haha no frak | 18:11 |
| paultag | IdleOne: dude I lol'd so hard last night | 18:11 |
| paultag | IdleOne: I got the memo on my phone and just loved it | 18:11 |
| Jason3 | bump | 18:18 |
| Jason3 | nvmd it was the browsers cache not getting updated | 18:21 |
| isiah | nerd music break!!!! | 18:33 |
| isiah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0 | 18:33 |
| IdleOne | paultag: ") | 18:41 |
| Jason3 | anyone know of a good post on the best way to backup my server (10.04)? | 18:54 |
| hobgoblin | Jason3: a start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC a search engine http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/ | 19:01 |
| === slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] | ||
| isiah | hey anyone around with skype? | 19:34 |
| zkriesse | I am isiah | 19:34 |
| zkriesse | What is the issue | 19:34 |
| isiah | I just got it and would like to test it | 19:34 |
| isiah | would you mind? | 19:34 |
| zkriesse | Sure not a problem | 19:34 |
| isiah | ok what is your skype number? | 19:34 |
| Jason3 | what does this mean for tar -v verbosely list files processed ? | 19:40 |
| isiah | you want to know what happens when you type in "tar -v"? | 19:41 |
| Jason3 | well i want to know what verbosely list files processed means. So kind of. | 19:41 |
| isiah | what did man say? | 19:42 |
| Jason3 | verbosely list files processed | 19:42 |
| isiah | my guess would be to show you every file as it upacks | 19:42 |
| isiah | I might have a tar ball around to test it | 19:42 |
| isiah | brb....testing | 19:42 |
| Jason3 | thx | 19:43 |
| Jason3 | I have a medium sized file but it has a TON of files in it to unpack. | 19:43 |
| isiah | ok it seems to do whatever else it was going to do, plus it lists all the files in the terminal | 19:47 |
| Jason3 | ok thanks! | 19:47 |
| isiah | so, I guess that could have some use | 19:47 |
| isiah | not sure what exactly | 19:48 |
| Jason3 | sudo tar -xf -C /srv srv.tar.gz | 19:48 |
| Jason3 | what did i do wrong here? | 19:48 |
| isiah | what are you trying to do? | 19:48 |
| Jason3 | unpack the srv.tar.gz file into the /srv directory | 19:48 |
| isiah | sudo mv srv.tar.gz && tar zxf srv.tar.gz | 19:49 |
| isiah | try that | 19:49 |
| isiah | let me know if it works | 19:50 |
| Jason3 | i don't get it. move the file, but not to anywhere? | 19:51 |
| isiah | agh | 19:52 |
| isiah | sudo mv srv.tar.gz /srv && tar zxf srv.tar.gz | 19:52 |
| isiah | sorry | 19:52 |
| Jason3 | no | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | Cannot open: No such file or directory | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | tar: Child returned status 2 | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors | 19:54 |
| isiah | ok move the file | 19:54 |
| isiah | then do the tar thing | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | into /srv? | 19:54 |
| isiah | yes | 19:54 |
| Jason3 | done | 19:54 |
| isiah | now | 19:54 |
| isiah | sudo tar zxf srv.tar.gz | 19:55 |
| isiah | internet blow up? | 19:56 |
| Jason3 | ok that worked. it is one dirctory off. are there any options i need to mv the whole folder and all the files into another or will sudo mv work? | 19:56 |
| isiah | so now you got a /srv/srv directory? | 19:57 |
| isiah | full of files? | 19:57 |
| Jason3 | heheh yeah | 19:57 |
| Jason3 | actually I only really need to move one of the folders and have it overwrite if there are files with the same names | 19:58 |
| isiah | I dont remember | 19:58 |
| Jason3 | dir -all | 19:58 |
| Jason3 | errr. wrong window sorrt! | 19:58 |
| isiah | try this | 19:59 |
| isiah | sudo mv -r /srv/srv /srv | 19:59 |
| Jason3 | mv: invalid option -- 'r' | 20:00 |
| isiah | agh | 20:00 |
| isiah | I dont know | 20:00 |
| Jason3 | man page -f? | 20:01 |
| isiah | can you move it manually? | 20:01 |
| Jason3 | umm... how do you undo a rm -r? | 20:05 |
| isiah | you dont | 20:05 |
| pedro3005 | you don't | 20:05 |
| isiah | its gone forever | 20:05 |
| Jason3 | funny! thank goodness for backups! | 20:05 |
| pedro3005 | Well, technically, a file recovery program *could* be able to recover it | 20:05 |
| pedro3005 | but it's never certain | 20:05 |
| isiah | cast into the 7th circle of digital hell | 20:05 |
| Jason3 | be back in 4 minutes! ;( | 20:07 |
| Jason3 | how do I turn it off so that browsers don't list the files in a folder if it goes there and there is no index file? | 20:16 |
| geirha | Jason3: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html | 20:32 |
| isiah | that is not dead which can eternal lie yet with strange aeons even death may die | 21:51 |
| uRock | and then? | 21:52 |
| paultag | only then can you start living | 21:53 |
| isiah | i write that when the room gets boring | 21:54 |
| alt1231 | anyone give help installing linux side by side with vista on raid0? | 22:19 |
| alt1231 | which linux dist best to sue for it and setup details | 22:19 |
| === ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse | ||
| isiah | i start my new job tomorrow | 23:15 |
| lukjad | isiah Very nice, what is it? | 23:38 |
| isiah | electrical engineer in-charge of electrical safety | 23:38 |
| lukjad | Niiice | 23:38 |
| lukjad | Congrats isiah ! | 23:38 |
| isiah | thank you | 23:39 |
| === paultag_ is now known as paultag | ||
| zkriesse | Hello Dextralus | 23:58 |
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