[00:13] <pcw> I have a boot problem; normal users have no access to soundcards and devices random daemons not starting up. can any1 help?
[00:23] <seidos> pcw, the only thing I can think of, as a starting point, is maybe check the logs in /var/log
[00:41] <pcw> seidos:where and what should i look for? I hav plowed through messages dmesg found nothing
[00:42] <seidos> pcw, you can search syslog for the word "error".  Wait, you said that random daemons are not starting up?  Which daemons?
[00:43] <pcw> apt-cacher-ng
[00:44] <seidos> never heard of it
[00:44] <pcw> some software that does caching of downloads from apt servers
[00:44] <seidos> yeah, I don't have that process running currently.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:45] <pcw> lucid
[00:45] <pcw> stock kernel and 35-12 doesnot work
[00:45] <seidos> I'm running Jaunty with an updated kernel.
[00:46] <seidos> 2.6.30, the newer kernels don't work for me either.
[00:46] <pcw> at least 35-12 is finally giving me stable error
[00:46] <seidos> did your system ever work?
[00:46] <pcw> older kernels dont work for me sadly
[00:46] <pcw> yes with stock worked 80% of the time
[00:47] <Jason1> how do i find out all the packages that are currently installed?
dpkg-query -l
[00:49] <seidos> pcw, I don't know.  I'm already out of ideas.
[00:50] <pcw> seidos: 'amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22'
[00:50] <pcw> seen this?
[00:50] <seidos> pcw, never
[00:50] <seidos> pcw, I'm running 32 bit on 64 bit hardware.
[00:51] <pcw> think i m gonna just give up on the ubu
[00:51] <seidos> pcw, I don't know, maybe you can try running the daemons manually
[00:51] <pcw> lucid just plain suck
[00:51] <pcw> i can but i just dont want to
[00:52] <pcw> i can fix every prob i have manually
[00:52] <seidos> perhaps a script will fix the problem then
[00:52] <pcw> yes it can
[00:53] <pcw> problem is that there seems to be other deeper problems which i do not understand and wishes to figure out
[00:53] <seidos> ubuntu isn't perfect.  lots of different hardware out there.
[00:53] <pcw> sadly intrepid was working very well
[00:53] <pcw> lucid is just a big fail
[00:53] <seidos> or maybe ubuntu is perfect, but all the proprietary hardware isn't :|
[00:54] <pcw> nope
[00:54] <pcw> i hav got 3 mach
[00:54] <pcw> all got various prob with ubu
[00:54] <seidos> GNU/Linux?
[00:54] <pcw> lucid to b exact
[00:54] <pcw> all went well with intrepid
[00:54] <pcw> ubu 9.10
[00:54] <seidos> maybe lucid isn't the right distro for you.
[00:55] <pcw> yup
[00:55] <seidos> I don't use it
[00:55] <pcw> killing now
[00:55] <pcw> falling back
[00:55] <pcw> thank you very much seidos
[00:55] <seidos> good luck pcw
[01:09] <Jason1> how can i find out what users are logged in ssh or otherwise to my server?
[01:14] <seidos> Jason1, I think the command "users" might be what you're looking for.
[01:15] <geirha> or w or who
[01:16] <seidos> ah, who, I had forgotten about that
[01:16] <seidos> w is nicest, haven't heard that before, thanks geirha
[01:18] <stlsaint> 9.10 is NOT intrepid!
[01:19] <phillw> 9.10 was Krazy Koala :p
[01:19] <phillw> Karmic :-)
[01:21] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: hello
[01:21] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, hello! morning! (it's morning here!) =D
[01:22] <Jason1> seidos:  thanks thats why Im in the beginners room!
[01:22] <Jason1> Can someone explain to me what the purpose is of each user when they are created having their own group?
[01:25] <chlorinator> Jason1, permissions
[01:25] <chlorinator> so you can share files with people in a group without sharing them with others o a system or network
[01:27] <stlsaint> chlorinator: why the name change?
[01:28] <chlorinator> Just got out of the pool and now I smell of chlorine
[01:28] <hobgoblin2> aye
[01:28] <hobgoblin2> opps
[01:29] <Jason1> i've just corrupted my passwd file by changing the numbers around.  Is there anyway I can tell from the prompt (wiuthout going to the passwd file) what my current userid # is?
[01:29] <chlorinator> I shocked it this morning so the chlorine level is very high, but still in the safe zone
[01:29] <chlorinator> eek
[01:30] <chlorinator> if you are the admin, then you need to have 700
[01:30] <geirha> echo $UID
[01:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: enter id
[01:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: command: id
[01:31] <stlsaint> geirha: aye, your just a command library
[01:31] <geirha> :)
[01:32] <chlorinator> I just aced my Intro to UNIX/Linux class, yet I am lost with some of the permission stuff as far as administering it.
[01:33] <stlsaint> uRock: where are you from and what class is this?
[01:34] <uRock> Las Vegas, it was the basic Intro to UNIX/Linux class
[01:34] <stlsaint> uRock: college?
[01:34] <uRock> yep
[01:34] <stlsaint> nice
[01:34] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, you keep asking the questions i wanted to ask! =D
[01:34] <uRock> It isn't for my degree, but I felt I could use it
[01:35]  * JoeMaverickSett is too slow in typing compared to these IRC Pros.
[01:35] <uRock> 4 people dropped the class because they couldn't handle it
[01:35] <uRock> they said they were too used to windows
[01:36] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, you should have a student like me! ;)
[01:36] <uRock> lol, I am still a student
[01:36] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe =D
[01:37] <uRock> the teacher is trying to get me into Linux+, but I have taken a disliking to COMPTIA
[01:37] <JoeMaverickSett> why?
[01:38] <Jason1> ok so i have seriously messed things up.  I can't save my passwd fie
[01:38] <uRock> starting the first of 2011 new certificates have to be renewed every three years
[01:38] <aveilleux> Jason1: What do you mean? Does sudo passwd fail?
[01:39] <JoeMaverickSett> oh! i am planning to take COMPITA Linux+
[01:39] <uRock> JoeMaverickSett, get certified before the end of the year, so you don't have to retake
[01:40] <uRock> I could be wrong, it may be for A+ and Network+ only
[01:41] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, hhmm, alright, thanks for the info.
[01:42] <uRock> JoeMaverickSett, http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/renewal.aspx
[01:43] <uRock> I think they are only doing it for the money, not because technology is changing
[01:44] <Jason1> aveillux: sudo passwd doesn't fail but I can't save
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: I guess I don't understand your problem, since you don't use a "save" command to exit passwd
[01:45] <Jason1> ok...  ctrl O doesn't work in nano
[01:45] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, alright. taking a look at those.
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: Um no.
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: passwd is its own utility.
[01:46] <Jason1> ive been editing the /etc/passwd file
[01:47] <Jason1> i've messed up all the groups and passwords because I thought I could just delete the groups I didn't want to use.
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: Why?
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: That explains a lot.
[01:47] <Jason1> because im a dumb newbie!
[01:47] <paultag> Don't say that in here Jason1
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: Putting yourself down won't get you anywhere
[01:47] <paultag> Jason1: no one is dumb. Newbie, perhaps, but this is how you learn.
[01:47] <paultag> At least you are learning what /etc/passwd does
[01:48] <JoeMaverickSett> Jason1, chill! people will help. as paultag said newbie,yes, but not dumb!
[01:48] <stlsaint> uRock: yes that is why i am getting my certs this year ;)
[01:49] <stlsaint> uRock: also it pertains to sec+ also :D
[01:49] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, for which one would you be getting for?
[01:49] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: all of them! :D
[01:49] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: sec+, n+, A+ then continuing on...
[01:50] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: $250 bucks per test :D
[01:50] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, wohoho! i think you are *The Geek* =D go on mate!
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: dude that's a lot of cash
[01:50] <stlsaint> first i will get sec+ as it is the hardest, then n+
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: is the US paying for it?
[01:50] <stlsaint> paultag: im a baller! =D
[01:50] <Jason1> ok so whats the solution  now... I can't get in as root because I turned off root login in ssh
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: haha
[01:51] <stlsaint> paultag: i make it rain on my education!! :D
[01:51] <stlsaint> LOL
[01:51] <paultag> Jason1: haha, awesome. Try rebooting, and going in through single user mode ( recovery mode )
[01:51] <uRock> I am geting the Cisco CCNA and I think they now have a cert for PC troubleshooting and repair
[01:51] <paultag> stlsaint: hahaha
[01:51] <paultag> Jason1: that or ctrl + alt + f1 if it gets that far
[01:51]  * JoeMaverickSett salutes stlsaint!
[01:51] <aveilleux> Jason1: You don't need root in Ubuntu... sudo does it for you
[01:51] <paultag> +1 aveilleux
[01:51] <stlsaint> uRock: yep, when its all said and done i will have mcsa,mcse,then some VoIP, Cisco switch expert, amongst others
[01:52] <JoeMaverickSett> make that +2, i never knew that! =D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: spend some of that on LDAP learnings
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: i have you for that! :D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: stlsaint did I show you my new URL / Blog?
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: i have a vps with openldap ramping up for kerberos! :D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: no way!!!
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: is it working yet?
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: yea i sent it in whub channel
[01:52] <JoeMaverickSett> are you guys like trying to get all the certs for computer related things? =D
[01:53] <stlsaint> paultag: i was reading your resume :D
[01:53] <aveilleux> I wish I could afford that many certs
[01:53] <paultag> stlsaint: whatcha think?
[01:53] <Jason1> single user mode?  Im on 10.04 LTS server
[01:53] <stlsaint> paultag: simple, niffty
[01:53] <paultag> stlsaint: thanks :)
[01:53] <uRock> The more you pay, the more you can earn
[01:53] <paultag> Jason1: Oh shoot. Well that explains it
[01:53] <stlsaint> aveilleux: well im in the army so i pay for it myself then they reimburse me ;)
[01:53] <paultag> Jason1: Can you ssh as yourself?
[01:53]  * JoeMaverickSett wished he was stlsaint! =P
[01:53] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Thhhbt
[01:53] <stlsaint> Jason1: are you using passwords or keys?
[01:53] <Jason1> when I ssh as myself a different username actually appears
[01:54] <stlsaint> aveilleux: aawww i love you too! :D
[01:54] <uRock> can Jason1 use vi to alter the passwd file?
[01:54] <paultag> Jason1: try using -l
[01:54] <aveilleux> uRock: He was using nano
[01:54] <paultag> Jason1: ssh server -l jason
[01:54] <uRock> k
[01:54] <stlsaint> uRock: thats not the issue
[01:54] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: ;)
[01:55] <stlsaint> Jason1: what command are you using to ssh in?
[01:56] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, how do you even study for all those? you must have lot's of space in your head! 500GB @7200RPM? =P
[01:56] <uRock> stlsaint, for the ms certs, did you take classes or just read, practice, then test?
[01:56] <Jason1> im using putty on a windows desktop to ssh in
[01:56] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: hehe, naw i have the entire mcsa course that i took in college a few months back on my ipod
[01:57] <uRock> with reititon everything starts to sink in
[01:57] <stlsaint> uRock: ^^
[01:57] <Jason1> vi is way to intense for me
[01:57] <stlsaint> Jason1: what user?
[01:57] <Jason1> right now Im in as myself
[01:57]  * JoeMaverickSett got nothing to say about stlsaint!
[01:57] <Jason1> id # 1002
[01:57] <stlsaint> the army also paid for me to take the mcsa course :D
[01:57] <paultag> woo
[01:58] <uRock> gotta love VA
[01:58] <stlsaint> uRock: YEP
[01:58] <uRock> pays my bills when I am in school
[01:58] <uRock> darn summer break
[01:58] <stlsaint> Jason1: what does your prompt say for the user?
[01:58] <Jason1> i get this error if I try to make changes HELP : loglevel(0-9) reBoot Crash terminate-all-tasks(E) memory-full-oom-kill(F) kill-all-t asks(I) thaw-filesystems(J) saK show-backtrace-all-active-cpus(L) show-memory-usage(M) nice-all-RT-t asks(N) show-registers(P) show-all-timers(Q) unRaw Sync show-task-states(T) Unmount show-blocked-tas
[01:58] <paultag> dude hell yes
[01:59] <Jason1> jason@myserver
[01:59] <stlsaint> Jason1: does sudo -i command work?
[01:59] <paultag> Jason1: do you have physical access to the machine?
[01:59] <stlsaint> if anybody needs mcsa/sec+ notes let me know...i love to share from what the intructors gave me
[02:00] <Jason1> not exactly physical access but I can get into it.
[02:00] <paultag> stlsaint: thanks, I might :)
[02:00] <stlsaint> Jason1: sudo -i
[02:00] <stlsaint> Jason1: does that work?
[02:00] <paultag> Jason1: is it a virtual machine?
[02:00] <Jason1> sudo: unknown uid: 1002
[02:00] <Jason1> yes
[02:00] <paultag> haha w00t, called it
[02:01] <stlsaint> paultag: genious showoff :P
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: OK. So, let's hack into this biznatch, as the kids today like to say
[02:01] <stlsaint> Jason1: does su work?
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: so that HELP error is if you try and ssh in?
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: or are you already on the box
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: do you know the root password?
[02:01] <Jason1> im already nano on passwd
[02:01]  * stlsaint fades to background.....
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: well that file is fucked anyway, I'm guessing
[02:01] <stlsaint> lol
[02:01] <paultag> stlsaint: naw, take point
[02:02] <Jason1> I do know the root passwd but don't i need to enable it in the sshd_config?
[02:02] <stlsaint> paultag: fsck() no
[02:02] <paultag> stlsaint: I'll watch, I need to clean the kitch :)
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: try ctrl + x, n, sudo -
[02:02] <aveilleux> Jason1: SSH is something else. No
[02:02] <stlsaint> paultag: NO...i dont know what you were going to do
[02:02] <paultag> stlsaint: >:)
[02:02] <paultag> wait
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: su -
[02:02] <aveilleux> Jason1: You /can/ enable root in Ubuntu, but there's really no need
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: not sudo, sudo won't work because of the passwords
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: that will be the root pw, not user local pw
[02:03] <paultag> Jason1: you should be able to gainroot if you know it
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag, Jason1: to get root in Ubuntu (if sudo -i is unsuccessful) you can sudo su
[02:03] <paultag> aveilleux: sudo will fail, the sudo'ers group is blasted if it failed
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag, Jason1: That way you don't actually enable the root account
[02:03] <paultag> aveilleux: I think he already has it enabled
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag: D8
[02:03] <paultag> yeah
[02:03] <Jason1> im at my prompt.  What do I need to do again?  Im not following
[02:03] <paultag> Jason1: su -
[02:03] <paultag> Jason1: that will be your root password
[02:04] <Jason1> su: Cannot determine your user name.
[02:04] <paultag> Jason1: if you did not enable the root account, you might be fscked.
[02:04] <paultag> Oh shucks
[02:04] <paultag> Jason1: su -m root
[02:04] <stlsaint> oh noes
[02:04] <Jason1> same: su: Cannot determine your user name.
[02:04] <paultag> Gah.
[02:04] <paultag> Jason1: do you have gcc installed?
[02:04] <Jason1> don't know what it is so probbaly not
[02:05] <paultag> Jason1: OK, I'd use this time to get all data off that machine and re-install
[02:05] <Jason1> I can get in as another user who has sudo.  I can try that.
[02:05] <stlsaint> it maybe on a default server install
[02:05] <paultag> Jason1: It's OK. It might be blasted as well, if you lost sudoers group it should not work
[02:05] <stlsaint> Jason1: oh heck yea get in that way
[02:05] <stlsaint> oh
[02:05] <stlsaint> thats true
[02:05] <paultag> but try
[02:05] <paultag> stlsaint: could be spot on
[02:05] <Jason1> im in as root as another user!  whewww!
[02:05] <paultag> wooo!!
[02:05] <stlsaint> sweet
[02:05] <paultag> Jason1: congrats :)
[02:05] <paultag> stlsaint: you rock :)
[02:06] <Jason1> (didn't like the reinstall option)
[02:06] <paultag> stlsaint: +1 paultag point
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: why is that?
[02:06] <stlsaint> W00T!!
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: I've reinstalled more times then I can count :)
[02:06] <Jason1> i already have clients running on the system
[02:06] <stlsaint> pfft, i just reinstalled yesterday :D
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: oh shucks
[02:06] <stlsaint> Jason1: aye, fix that sudoers group man
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: are they getting to it by IP or CNAME ?
[02:06] <Jason1> im way out ahead of myself at the moment trying to catch up!
[02:07]  * stlsaint loves conky
[02:07] <Jason1> dns manager points them to their folder with virtual host
[02:07] <paultag> Jason1: you could bring up another Vitural Server, install it, then rysnc the data on the two
[02:07] <stlsaint> Jason1: can you fix your groups with this root user?
[02:07] <paultag> Jason1: then switch the CNAME for the domain, and then bring down the first after two hours or so
[02:08] <paultag> because that login file is fscked up from the looks of it
[02:08] <stlsaint> paultag: they are logged on as root right now
[02:08] <stlsaint> Jason1: right?? ^
[02:08] <aveilleux> For the room: http://www.zazzle.com/root_access_tshirt-235683678517126274  (I know the syntax is a little off, but I had to dumb it down a little)
[02:08] <drubin> Moral of the story *never* *ever* edit /etc/passwd manually.
[02:09] <paultag> _+1 aveilleux
[02:09] <paultag> +10000000 drubin
[02:09] <Jason1> i can probably fix the users im not sure.  Im using a virtual terminal at the moment, rather than actually ssh into the system
[02:09] <Jason1> lesson learned
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: yup. That's all that counts
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: consider a re-wipe
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: you might have lost a lot of groups etc
[02:09] <stlsaint> aveilleux: 35 bucks for that!?!? ROBBERY!! :P
[02:10] <Jason1> well there were 3 uers I edited and 3 groups i deleted.  Can I put them back in from the prompt?
[02:10] <aveilleux> stlsaint: It's the lowest price I could set D:
[02:10] <drubin> Jason1: Learning is more important then any thing else :)
[02:10] <stlsaint> aveilleux: oh
[02:10] <paultag> drubin: did you see my new domain?
[02:10] <paultag> Jason1: not without knowing what they were
[02:10] <paultag> Jason1: you don't take notes, perchance?
[02:10] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Inverted colors is something in the range of $20
[02:10] <drubin> paultag: I even viewed it. you mades me enables javascripts ;)
[02:10] <Jason1> well I do know what they were.  They were friends login ids.
[02:10] <paultag> drubin: hahahaha
[02:10]  * uRock The best way to learn is the hard way.
[02:11] <paultag> drubin: suck it up, it's 2010
[02:11] <Jason1> true!
[02:11] <aveilleux> paultag +1
[02:11] <drubin> paultag: Hey never been rickrolled or any thing with my anti javascript policies :)
[02:11] <aveilleux> drubin: None of the rickrolls work on Opera ;)
[02:11]  * drubin views page source before enabling javascripts
[02:11] <Jason1> i know all the id numbers and the reality is I can do without all of them if we can just get mine working.  my id # is 2002
[02:12] <paultag> drubin: haha
[02:12] <drubin> omw 3:30am and next doors alarm is going off ;/
[02:13] <Jason1> so is it possible to repair the passwd file using command prompts instead of editing the file?
[02:13] <drubin> Jason1: Repair possibly not.
[02:13] <uRock> lol, I just watched my neighbor's kids kill a bouncing room and it was only up for 30 minutes
[02:14] <stlsaint> lol
[02:14] <drubin> Jason1: If you have broken your passwd file I would suggest a reinstall.
[02:14] <stlsaint> Jason1: aye
[02:14] <aveilleux> I concur with drubin and stlsaint
[02:14] <Jason1> even though Im root at the moment?
[02:14] <drubin> Jason1: unless you know *excatly* what changed
[02:15] <Jason1> I believe I do.
[02:15] <drubin> Jason1: Next leasson is backup and restores ;-p
[02:15] <uRock> Jason1, back it up before making changes in the future
[02:15] <Jason1> haha
[02:15] <aveilleux> Jason1: *.old will save your life
[02:16] <Jason1> if I can delete the two users and edit me from id 1003 to 1002 that should be all i need
[02:16] <aveilleux> Jason1: sudo cp corg.conf xorg.conf.old has saved my butt so many times
[02:16] <Jason1> (this is called denial phase)
[02:16] <uRock> lool
[02:16] <uRock> lol
[02:17] <Jason1> but seriously, your saying its not possible even though I know the users and groups i edited?
[02:17] <aveilleux> Jason1: It's possible, but very difficult
[02:17] <drubin> Jason1: the way linux internally stores UIDs might be different
[02:18] <Jason1> or if I delete all the applicable users and just create a new one for myself
[02:18] <Jason1> ?
[02:18] <Jason1> (from root)
[02:18] <drubin> Jason1: You could try that but you might have issues later on.
[02:18] <drubin> Jason1: So like we all said make backups.
[02:19] <drubin> Jason1: but yes you can try it only after you have backups :) if it doesn't work reinstall with backups
[02:19] <drubin> any how I need to get going.
[02:19] <Jason1> ok.. im ready for the lesson on backups now!
[02:20] <aveilleux> Jason1: Before doing anything to a system file, sudo cp XX XX.old
[02:20] <aveilleux> Jason1: Where XX is the name of the file
[02:20] <Jason1> ok
[02:21] <paultag> hey drubin, got a few secs?
[02:23] <paultag> drubin: I need some py help :)
[02:25] <Jason1> ok so how do I get the backups to put back later.  FTP?
[02:26] <Jason1> i can't get on
[02:26] <paultag> Jason1: use rsync with a failover server if it's production
[02:26] <aveilleux> Jason1: What? Just sudo mv XX.old XX
[02:26] <aveilleux> That'll overwite the broken copy with the backup
[02:26] <aveilleux> Just leave it in the same dir
[02:27] <Jason1> what is rsync?
[02:27] <paultag> Jason1: it will let you sync two directories over the network
[02:27] <paultag> Jason1: so sync mirror two installs, and then switch over the DNS entry
[02:28] <paultag> Jason1: I do this all the time in the datacenter I manage
[02:28] <paultag> old hardware upgrades etc
[02:29] <Jason1> ah..  ok..  RIght now I only have the one server and it is taking up everything on the virtual host
[02:29] <paultag> Jason1: but it's virtual
[02:29] <paultag> add another vmachine
[02:29] <paultag> or do you not have ownership of the server?
[02:30] <Jason1> im using linnode
[02:31] <Jason1> I can reduce the size of the current install and then create a second if thats what your getting at, since right now it fills up all of my alloted space
[02:31] <paultag> Ah, no, can't do that with linode
[02:32] <paultag> Jason1: might be able to do that
[02:32] <pleia2> can only have one running at a time, so you'd have to sync via an intermediary
[02:33] <paultag> +1 pleia2
[02:33] <paultag> and that also entails downtime
[02:34] <Jason1> so i need to setup 3?
[02:35] <Jason1> my brain is fried at this point!
[02:36] <stlsaint> Jason1: do you have another machine you can use?
[02:36] <stlsaint> Jason1: to maybe use for syncing?
[02:38] <Jason1> when you say machine what do you mean?
[02:38] <stlsaint> computer
[02:38] <Jason1> im sitting at my desktop. Its a windows platform.  there is the server itself which is on linnode
[02:38] <stlsaint> hrm
[02:38] <stlsaint> shucks
[02:39] <Jason1> linnode will allow me to reduce the size of the current install.  I could cut it in half.
[02:39] <Jason1> then I would be able to setup a second install.  I just don't know how to get the files back and forth between the two.
[02:40] <stlsaint> Jason1: can you ssh into that server using a form of gui?
[02:41] <Jason1> the second (to be the newly created one)???
[02:41] <stlsaint> no,
[02:41] <stlsaint> Jason1: like in linux you can connect to the server using nautilus
[02:42] <stlsaint> Jason1: is there something in windows that you have to do that?
[02:42] <Jason1> yes its called puTTY.  I use that to SSH into the server
[02:42] <Jason1> that opens up my shell
[02:42] <paultag> try WinSCP
[02:42] <Jason1> i have winSCP as well for ftp
[02:43] <paultag> Jason1: that's SFTP
[02:43] <paultag> Jason1: it's FTP over SSH
[02:43] <Jason1> ok
[02:43] <paultag> ( a.k.a. scp )
[02:43] <paultag> stlsaint: he can get data thru the pipe :)
[02:43] <Jason1> winSCP doesn't work because I can't login
[02:43] <stlsaint> Jason1: pull that data from your sever to your windows system
[02:44] <stlsaint> Jason1: reformat then put back
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: if you can putty you should be able to login
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: it uses ssh to xfer, so if you can ssh in, you can scp over
[02:44] <Jason1> i can't get into the server right now with winSCP
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: how do you get in via PuTTY ?
[02:44] <stlsaint> Jason1: you can winscp but you can ssh??
[02:45] <Jason1> i can ssh but not winscp
[02:45] <stlsaint> :|
[02:45] <paultag> Jason1: just *try* for me, I know how this works on a low level
[02:45] <Jason1> oh wait..  actually..  Ive nbever closed my session because I didn't want that to be gameover
[02:45] <stlsaint> Jason1: yes please try it
[02:45] <Jason1> server refuses key
[02:46] <stlsaint> Jason1: your going through same port correct?
[02:46] <paultag> Jason1: does it not fall back on pw auth?
[02:46] <Jason1> i have it turned off in sshd_config
[02:46] <paultag> Jason1: swap that over while you are root
[02:46] <stlsaint> Jason1: +1 on paultag's suggestion since you are having issues with keys atm
[02:49] <JoeMaverickSett> QUESTION: "if i want to apply for Seeking Mentor in here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth/Structure. i just go edit the page, right?"
[02:50] <paultag> Jason1: I don't know why you are asking in here :)
[02:50] <paultag> not you Jason1
[02:50] <paultag> Jason1: you have a real issue
[02:50] <paultag> you JoeMaverickSett :)
[02:50] <paultag> darn tab complete
[02:50] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, failed! =D
[02:51] <JoeMaverickSett> it seems to be the only way anyways! :)
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: I'd ask in #Ubuntu-youth
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: no one in here is qualified to answer that besides zkriesse
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: so I'd ask him in that team's channel
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> alright paultag. won't disturb you no more.
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[02:52] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: you're not disturbing, just trying to route you somewhere to get an answer
[02:52]  * JoeMaverickSett goes off to #ubuntu-youth
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, hehe! i've re-routed! ;)
[02:52] <paultag> :)
[02:53] <Jason1> what comnand will let me read a file without editing?
[02:53] <stlsaint> Jason1: cat
[02:53] <paultag> Jason1: cat
[02:53] <paultag> <3 stlsaint
[02:53] <Jason1> thx
[02:53] <stlsaint> paultag: cat <file>
[02:53] <paultag> Jason1: if it's long, less
[02:53] <paultag> stlsaint: less <file>
[02:53] <paultag> stlsaint: boom. headshot
[02:53] <stlsaint> fsck()
[02:53] <uRock> or more
[02:53] <uRock> "more"
[02:53] <paultag> uRock: less is more
[02:53] <paultag> uRock: :P
[02:53] <uRock> si
[02:54] <paultag> uRock: if it's long you can't go back up with more, so that always gives me sadsies
[02:54] <Jason1> whatd the modifier to view it page by page?
[02:54] <uRock> does less do the same thing?
[02:54] <paultag> Jason1: | less, or less <file>
[02:55] <stlsaint> brb
[02:59]  * uRock Going where I have never gone before. Installing Arch in VBox.
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: those arch guys are amazing
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: They have my utmost respect
[03:00] <Jason1> permit root login is YES password authentication is yes
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: they've done some really cool stuff with the distro, and it's cool seeing what they come up with
[03:00] <Jason1> I can't get in though via winSCP with my password
[03:00] <Jason1> (for root)
[03:00] <paultag> Jason1: do you know the root password?
[03:01] <Jason1> yes
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: did you set it manually?
[03:01] <Jason1> yes
[03:01] <uRock> I am sure to break it, lol
[03:01] <paultag> OK
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: try PuTTY with root
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: does that work?
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: avoid using a PK
[03:01] <paultag> uRock: we all do at one point or another
[03:01] <Jason1> im in without the password because of the key..
[03:02] <paultag> uRock: as my 7th grade english teacher told me "Fail with dignity"
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: Try removing the key
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: Just try a raw ssh login
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: if that does not work that needs to be addressed
[03:03] <paultag> uRock: I tried installing arch the other day
[03:03] <paultag> uRock: the kernel is the same as 10.04's, bad news for paultag :(
[03:03] <Jason1> access denied even though im entering the correct passwrod
[03:03] <paultag> Jason1: then you have a bigger issue to address ;)
[03:04] <uRock> that bites
[03:04] <uRock> I haven't had any problems with it, yet
[03:04] <paultag> Jason1: can you still login as you?
[03:04] <paultag> Jason1: if so, either the root pw is wrong or remote logins are disabled
[03:05] <Jason1> where is the setting for remote login?
[03:06] <paultag> Jason1: in the global ssh config
[03:06] <paultag>  /etc/ssh/ssh_config I think
[03:06] <paultag> or something
[03:06] <paultag> might be PAM
[03:06] <paultag> I've never had to enable root ( for good reason )
[03:07] <IdleOne> why would anyone want to enable root
[03:07] <IdleOne> root is over rated
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: +1
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: I'm with you, friend
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: also, how are ya?
[03:08] <IdleOne> Doing ok here and you ?
[03:08] <paultag> IdleOne: I'm well. Got my new blog and domain all set :D
[03:08] <IdleOne> cool
[03:10]  * IdleOne is watching Rocky
[03:11] <paultag> haha wich one IdleOne ?
[03:11] <IdleOne> the first one
[03:11] <Jason1> looked and didn't see anything I can winSCP with a key at the moment into root
[03:11] <paultag> Jason1: make a tarball with the stuff you need to backup
[03:12] <IdleOne> paultag: I have seen it a gazabaillionmillion times
[03:12] <paultag> Jason1: then chown it to the user you can scp with
[03:12] <paultag> Jason1: then send dump the archive back
[03:12] <paultag> IdleOne: haha aye
[03:12] <IdleOne> you know what I haven't seen in a long time, Scarface!
[03:12] <paultag> Hahaha, aye!!!! Me neither!
[03:13] <paultag> God, I used to love that movie
[03:13] <paultag> same with Top Gun
[03:13] <IdleOne> lol such a stupid movie but I love it too lol
[03:13] <paultag> hell yeah IdleOne
[03:13] <seidos> I recently watched Devil's Advocate and Dark Knight Returns.
[03:13] <paultag> Oh noesss
[03:13] <paultag> Never seen Devil's Advocate, but the Dark Knight Returns rocks my socks
[03:13] <IdleOne> Devil's advocate is ehh
[03:13] <Jason1> im root in winSCP at the moment so I don't think I need to chown
[03:13] <Jason1> ?
[03:13] <IdleOne> not a classic
[03:14] <seidos> I was in my car the other day, and came up with an answer to why Joker's question "Why so serious?"
[03:14] <paultag> Jason1: oh, then you can copy over. Get to backing up!
[03:14] <paultag> seidos: hahaha, oh?
[03:14] <paultag> IdleOne: Too bad :(
[03:14] <Jason1> already started
[03:14] <IdleOne> seidos has me curious to this answer
[03:14] <seidos> answer: because life can suck.
[03:15] <IdleOne> haha
[03:15] <seidos> but that just made me ask "why so happy?"
[03:15] <seidos> that one was a little trickier.  Especially for the Joker.  You can't say because life is good.  I think the answer is because "boy's don't cry"
[03:15] <Jason1> id like to make my srv file a tarball.  whats the best way to do that?
[03:15] <IdleOne> If someone with a face like the Joker asks you "Why so serious?" the answer should be "Wouldn't you be serious if someone like you asked you that?"
[03:16] <seidos> Jason1,  ermmm tar -xvvf file.tar file.srv
[03:16] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zcvf
[03:16] <paultag> +1 seidos
[03:16] <seidos> ah, dang it, I'm wrong
[03:16] <seidos> I did x, that's extract
[03:17] <seidos> Jason1, don't listen to me, listen to paultag,  or better yet, man tar
[03:17] <seidos> I always have to type man tar because i forget the syntax
[03:17] <seidos> +2 paultag
[03:17] <paultag> :)
[03:17] <seidos> IdleOne, good point.  Especially if he's carrying that full auto glock or whatever it was.
[03:18] <duanedesign> seidos: i have a function you can add to your bashrc where you just type ex to extract archives
[03:19] <seidos> duanedesign, do you use it?
[03:19] <stlsaint> duanedesign: of course you would! pffty
[03:19] <stlsaint> duanedesign: whats the difference between your function and a alias?
[03:20] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471687/
[03:20] <duanedesign> just add that to your .bashrc
[03:21] <IdleOne> alias ex='tar -xvvf'
[03:21] <IdleOne> then ex file.tar in terminal
[03:21] <stlsaint> IdleOne: your gonna need a bit more than that my friend :D
[03:21] <IdleOne> probably
[03:22] <stlsaint> hehe, its cool
[03:22] <duanedesign> IdleOne: yes that would work. But the function determines the extension then uses the appropriatte command
[03:22] <Jason1> im at the top level.  I want to tar the whole srv file
[03:22] <duanedesign> pretty neat
[03:22] <Jason1>   tar -zcvf /srv
[03:22] <Jason1> isn't working
[03:22] <stlsaint> Jason1: cause your trying to tar a dirctory
[03:22] <IdleOne> Jason1: full path
[03:22] <IdleOne> never mind me
[03:22] <IdleOne> I know nothing about all this computer stuffs
[03:23] <seidos> don't you also need to specify the name of the tar file?
[03:23] <IdleOne> :)
[03:23] <stlsaint> yes
[03:24] <stlsaint> Jason1: the syntax is: tar -zcvf file.tar file.<whatever>
[03:24] <Jason1> but it can only be a file, not a directory?
[03:24] <stlsaint> Jason1: as suggested earlier you should read the tar manual
[03:26] <IdleOne> duanedesign: thanks for the ex function
[03:28] <Jason1> yes I have been looking at it.  Im still trying to process them as they have been difficult for me to follow.
[03:28] <stlsaint> IdleOne: where you from?
[03:28] <IdleOne> Montreal Canada
[03:28] <stlsaint> oh ok
[03:28] <seidos> Jason1, there are some syntax examples near the end of the file.
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: I've been there once
[03:29] <duanedesign> IdleOne: it is one of my favorites.
[03:29] <IdleOne> for UDS
[03:29] <IdleOne> paultag: ^^
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: nope :) -- tourist
[03:29] <IdleOne> ahh cool
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: wish it was for UDS :)
[03:29] <Jason1> there are.  but  it doesn't actually say anywhere that you can't use it on a folder
[03:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/
[03:30] <IdleOne> paultag: 11.10 is going to be in Belgium right?
[03:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: that help?
[03:30] <Jason1> well that was easy  i had the folder and name swapped!
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: this past one 10.04 was belgium, I thought
[03:31] <IdleOne> hmm
[03:31] <stlsaint> What average user can afford to just up and go way the hell to belgium!!?!!?!?
[03:31] <stlsaint> makes me mad!!
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: yeah -- brussels
[03:31] <IdleOne> I am going to try to go to that one
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: Hurm, might need a time machine
[03:32] <paultag> IdleOne: 11.10 I don't think is planned yet, but I could be wrong
[03:32] <paultag> IdleOne: 10.10 is in FL
[03:32] <paultag> ( USA )
[03:32] <IdleOne> oh so 11.04 is Belgium
[03:32] <stlsaint> W00T!!
[03:32] <IdleOne> I can't go to Florida
[03:32] <IdleOne> :(
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: is it?
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: why not?
[03:33] <stlsaint> IdleOne: and i cant go to belgium so hhmmm! :P
[03:33] <IdleOne> last time I was there I beat up Mickey and now I am not welcome
[03:33] <IdleOne> lol
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: I can tell I already like you
[03:33] <IdleOne> haha
[03:34] <IdleOne> actually it's because of immigration reasons
[03:34] <IdleOne> which I am working on getting fixed
[03:34] <paultag> Ah
[03:34] <stlsaint> IdleOne: can you go to arizona?
[03:34] <IdleOne> but yeah FLA is out
[03:34] <paultag> HahahA!!
[03:34] <stlsaint> paultag: ;)
[03:34] <IdleOne> stlsaint: I know a few ppl who can get me into Arizona
[03:34] <paultag> stlsaint: darn rednecks
[03:34] <IdleOne> you got 10G?
[03:34] <paultag> stlsaint: I feel bad you have to live with 'em
[03:35] <stlsaint> LOL...nope your on your own buddy!
[03:35] <IdleOne> haha
[03:35] <stlsaint> paultag: hehe
[03:35] <IdleOne> Well in any case, Florida is out for now
[03:35] <paultag> aye
[03:36] <IdleOne> Belgium I think would be a blast. I speak French fluently
[03:36] <paultag> Oh wow
[03:36] <paultag> I want one in Germany
[03:36] <paultag> IdleOne: of course, Canada, duh
[03:36]  * paultag dur
[03:36] <IdleOne> Majority of Canadians don't speak French
[03:36] <paultag> That shocks me
[03:37] <paultag> French-Canadian, it's what I think of when I think Canada
[03:37] <paultag> that and "Eh?"
[03:37] <IdleOne> Quebec and a few small towns near Winnipeg, New Brunswick there are pockets of French speakers also
[03:38] <paultag> Anywho, I wana go to Germany for a UDS
[03:38] <paultag> I'd love to sharpen up on my German
[03:39] <IdleOne> never liked the German language
[03:40] <IdleOne> to rough
[03:40] <paultag> Bah
[03:40]  * IdleOne speaks French, Italian and Spanish
[03:40] <paultag> English is a Germanic language
[03:40]  * IdleOne is a lover :P
[03:40] <paultag> German is a romantic language
[03:40] <IdleOne> hahaha
[03:40] <paultag> ICHKK LIEBIE DICCHHHH
[03:41] <IdleOne> remember the CoC!
[03:41] <IdleOne> lol
[03:41] <paultag> Hahaha, That means "I love you"
[03:41] <paultag> spelled how it sounds
[03:42] <paultag> IdleOne: ^
[03:42] <IdleOne> German is not known for it's romance
[03:42] <paultag> you've clearly never seen a picture of a German chick
[03:42] <paultag> :P
[03:43] <paultag> *cough* anyway
[03:43] <IdleOne> I didn't say nothing about the people in germany
[03:43] <IdleOne> just the language
[03:43] <IdleOne> hehe
[03:44] <IdleOne> Rocky and Apollo are about to beat each other up
[03:44]  * IdleOne will be back :P
[03:44] <paultag> Hells yes
[03:48] <stlsaint> hey any of you smart people know why when a broswer window is opened it also opens up 4 TCP connections?
[03:49] <zkriesse> Nada...
[03:49] <zkriesse> what browser?
[03:49] <stlsaint> chrome
[03:49] <paultag> yeah stlsaint
[03:49] <zkriesse> Hmm
[03:49] <paultag> stlsaint: it's called pipelining
[03:49] <zkriesse> paultag: What's that?
[03:49] <paultag> stlsaint: it does more then one request on more then one session to load things in parralell
[03:50] <stlsaint> im not following ya
[03:50]  * stlsaint is gonna take b12 injections to lower my headaches! :D
[03:50] <paultag> zkriesse: OK, so network transmission protocols cap how much you can throw down one pipe. Since you can't send more through the pipe, get more pipes
[03:50] <paultag> stlsaint: :)
[03:50] <zkriesse> Ok
[03:50] <zkriesse> So it'll open more pipes
[03:51] <paultag> zkriesse: so when you load page.html, and it has img1, img2 and img3
[03:51] <seidos> so pipelining is done to increase bandwidth?
[03:51] <paultag> zkriesse: it will load page.html, and load images on different pipes
[03:51] <paultag> seidos: through-put
[03:51] <stlsaint> ooooohhhhhh
[03:51]  * seidos looks up through-put
[03:51] <paultag> seidos: throughput is how it's usually spelled
[03:51] <stlsaint> yea when i load google it opens 4 connections
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: but it looks scarry, so I break it apart
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: makes sense :)
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: it also keeps them active via a persistant HTML protocol
[03:52] <paultag> you stlsaint
[03:52] <paultag> not you seidos sorry
[03:52] <paultag> stlsaint: so that it does not have to establish every time it does an AJAX call
[03:52] <paultag> ( which is most of the time with google )
[03:52] <seidos> ah, essentially synonymous to digital bandwidth consumption
[03:53] <paultag> seidos: yeah, it's how well you can use the bandwidth
[03:53] <stlsaint> paultag: crap, facebook opens 15 connections
[03:53] <paultag> stlsaint: yup, sounds right
[03:53] <stlsaint> paultag: i gotcha, thanks for that quick lesson, i can stop bugging out now :D
[03:53] <paultag> stlsaint: sure thing
[03:53] <stlsaint> l8er folks
[03:53] <paultag> l8r sk8r
[03:54] <robbmunson> facebook opens up 15 connections? that doesnt sound right......
[03:54] <robbmunson> oh well....
[03:55] <seidos> does firefox use pipelining?
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: yeah it does :)
[03:55] <paultag> seidos: yeah
[03:55] <paultag> seidos: check in about:config for under the hood
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: it has to do about that much activly for AJAX
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: and one pipe per persistant ajax wait
[03:55] <paultag> sounds good to me
[03:56] <seidos> it looks like pipelining is set to false
[03:56] <paultag> seidos: humm, it might just enable pipes for JS only and not do that with image loading
[03:56] <paultag> seidos: set it to true and cap it at 15 or so
[03:57] <seidos> all right, done
[03:57] <paultag> :)
[03:58] <seidos> man, I should've majored in computer science, there is no way I'm going to learn all this stuff
[03:58] <zkriesse> hello nomnex
[03:58] <IdleOne> paultag: turns out Rocky lost the fight
[03:58] <paultag> IdleOne: haha, oh noes
[03:58] <paultag> seidos: :P
[03:59] <IdleOne> Rocky 2 is next, will see what happens :)
[03:59] <paultag> Report back!
[04:00] <IdleOne> will do. I might have to blog about this
[04:12] <Jason1> paultag: thanks for all your help!
[04:12] <paultag> Jason1: sure :)
[04:12] <paultag> Jason1: best of luck restoring!
[04:12] <Jason1> Im uploading back to a clean server now
[04:13] <paultag> :D
[04:19] <Jason1> does this look correct??   tar -xvf /srv srv.tar.gz
[04:19] <Jason1> that will unpack the file into the /srv directory?
[04:19] <bodhizazen> Jason1, you need -C to specify a directory to unpack
[04:20] <Jason1> tar -xvfC /srv srv.tar.gz  ?
[04:20] <bodhizazen> tar xvf -C /srv srv.tar.gz
[04:20] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv ..
[04:20] <paultag> hey bodhizazen
[04:20] <bodhizazen> yes, see man tar
[04:20] <bodhizazen> paultag, you are too slow
[04:21] <bodhizazen> Just finished dinner - Thai food - Pumpkin and coconut curry w/ tofu - yum yum
[04:21] <paultag> bodhizazen: woo! :)
[04:21] <bodhizazen> Tomorrow - Skiing
[04:21] <Jason1> what part of the world?
[04:22] <bodhizazen> Mt Hood - Oregon
[04:22] <bodhizazen> This internet connection sucks
[04:23] <bodhizazen> http://www.timberlinelodge.com/
[04:23] <bodhizazen> wb pedro3005
[04:23] <pedro3005> hello bodhizazen
[04:23] <robbmunson> wellllll hellooooooooooo there bodhi =D
[04:25] <Jason1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now  ???
[04:25] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv/ /path/to/archive.tar.gz
[04:26] <paultag> Jason1: what's the error?
[04:26] <seidos> Jason1, are you trying to extract a file or create one?
[04:26] <Jason1> extract
[04:26] <paultag> seidos: his old file from the broked server
[04:27] <seidos> paultag, so -C /srv/ extracts it to that directory?
[04:27] <paultag> seidos: yessir
[04:27] <bodhizazen> seidos, yes, but ...
[04:27] <paultag> Jason1: might need a sudo or change order
[04:27] <bodhizazen> you may need to use sudo
[04:27] <paultag> Jason1: or mk the dir
[04:27] <paultag> bodhizazen: too slow :)
[04:27] <bodhizazen> you could extract it in $HOME and move it
[04:27] <paultag> that's what i'd do
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: -C: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: srvfile.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[04:32] <paultag> Jason1: sudo mkdir /srv
[04:32] <paultag> Jason1: and re-run
[04:32] <Jason1> the folder /srv already exists
[04:33] <paultag> Jason1: sudo tar -zxvf .....
[04:33] <paultag> Jason1: try that. run sudo !!
[04:34] <Jason1> im logged in as root
[04:35] <paultag> Jason1: what command did you run?
[04:35] <seidos> when I was logged in as a root, back in the day, my friends here on irc told me that was a bad idea.
[04:35] <paultag> seidos: +1
[04:35] <paultag> still is
[04:35] <Jason1> funny..  let me logout and turn off root...  brb
[04:36] <bodhizazen> Jason1, cd into the directory that has the tar ball or use the full path
[04:36] <bodhizazen> seidos, logging into X as root is not good, su - , sudo -i , or logging in to a console or ssh is "OK"
[04:37] <Jason1> user add jason
[04:37] <Jason1> (no space)
[04:38] <bodhizazen> So I have been on a health kick - lost 30 Lbs , hiked 6 miles + 1,000 ft elevation in 2 hours
[04:38] <seidos> bodhizazen, that's what I hear.  I never really got into why, figured it was just easier to take everyone's word for it.
[04:38] <paultag> fsck() darn bodhizazen. I need to work out
[04:38] <paultag> bodhizazen: I just hit 220 @ 6'. I'm pissed.
[04:38] <paultag> This is the worst i've been in a long time
[04:38] <seidos> I've been doing jumping jacks, push ups, hindu squats.  I walked a bunch for the jog I briefly had, but not 6 miles, that's crazy.  I probably walked two, but I'm not sure, I wasn't counting.
[04:39] <bodhizazen> My blood pressure is way down and my resting pulse is 55
[04:39] <robbmunson> ill be back later, gotta go straighten out the crooked boards that are my kids.....
[04:39] <seidos> robbmunson, good luck
[04:39] <robbmunson> seidos: thanks, I will need it....LOL
[04:40] <seidos> my resting pulse is 80.  I've never seen it less than that.
[04:41] <seidos> I'm not sure how exercise reduces resting pulse, but I hear that it does.
[04:41] <seidos> I heard Lance Armstrong's resting pulse was like 40 or something
[04:42] <paultag> Yeah and Michal Jackson's is 0
[04:42] <paultag> seems like lower could cause issues
[04:42] <seidos> may he rest in peace
[04:43] <bodhizazen> LOL paultag
[04:43] <seidos> paultag, yeah, I think you have a point.  There is probably an optimal range.
[04:43]  * seidos didn't think of that
[04:43] <robbmunson> .......back.......(when I said later, i didnt mean like hours, lol.)
[04:43] <paultag> :)
[04:43] <seidos> robbmunson, wb
[04:44] <seidos> heh, maybe the optimal range is 0, I hate to be overly realistic but that's where everyone seems to be headed
[04:44] <robbmunson> the sudden shock factor of a door flinging open and daddy sayin "you kids better shut up and get to bed" does the trick.....they were in the next room over.
[04:44] <seidos> s/range/value
[04:45] <robbmunson> seidos: I agree....thats got to be it.
[04:45] <paultag> seidos: hum hahaha
[04:45] <Jason1> where do I put my public key I just generated?
[04:45] <paultag> Jason1: upload to a keyserver
[04:45] <robbmunson> Jason1: upload it to a.....^
[04:45] <bodhizazen> Jason1, public key goes on server
[04:45] <paultag> robbmunson: continue :)
[04:45] <Jason1> i know.. which folder?
[04:45] <paultag> I need to do some work right quick
[04:45] <paultag>  /bbl
[04:46] <TJ__> Hi all
[04:46] <bodhizazen> Jason1, ssh-copy-id
[04:46] <bodhizazen> http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-copy-id
[04:46] <bodhizazen> 'lo tdn
[04:46]  * bodhizazen tab_fail
[04:47] <Jason1> im on a windows machine using putty to get to my server
[04:47] <bodhizazen> 'lo TJ__
[04:47] <bodhizazen> Oh, copy the key to ~/.ssh
[04:47] <bodhizazen> cat key_name > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[04:47] <TJ__> I have a problem. My main ubuntu partition is locked and I'm unable to log into it, because I'm getting an error - The configuration defaults for Gnome Power Manager have not been installed correctly
[04:48] <TJ__> I've figured out that the partition is likely full
[04:48] <TJ__> but I'm unable to remove anything or access the home folder to recover the files I need before I can wipe/reinstall or fix anything
[04:48] <bodhizazen> Take out the trash TJ__
[04:48] <bodhizazen> Boot to recovery mode
[04:48] <TJ__> It still wouldn't let me log in
[04:49] <bodhizazen> When you boot to recovery mode, you are logged in as root
[04:49] <TJ__> I'll go try that again
[04:49] <TJ__> brb
[04:49] <bodhizazen> If that fails, you will need to boot a live CD, mount your Ubuntu partition, and clean it up
[04:50] <TJ__> Well I had some success mounting the partition, in an attempt to unlock the encrypted home folder, but am unable to clear any space to login that way either...is there a command I'm missing to remove a file/directory to clear up a bit of space?
[04:50] <TJ__> Or should I just try recover mode again first?
[04:51] <bodhizazen> If home is encrypted you are in for some hurt =)
[04:51] <IdleOne> paultag: Rocky just got fired from the meat plant :(
[04:52] <IdleOne> very sad situation
[04:52] <paultag> IdleOne: oh noe
[04:52] <paultag> IdleOne: how will he ever recover?!
[04:53] <IdleOne> looks like he is going against his doctors advice
[04:54] <IdleOne> he's going to fight!
[04:54] <IdleOne> SPOILER!
[04:54] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:54] <paultag> Oh shoot!
[04:55] <robbmunson> My ubuntu server cd just came in the mail =D
[04:55] <IdleOne> yay for free cd's
[04:56] <robbmunson> yay for being lazy.  Good thing it wasnt something I absolutely needed right now.
[04:57] <IdleOne> So i need to make a hackergotchi
[04:57] <IdleOne> First I need a picture of myself
[04:57] <robbmunson> Good luck, its tedious....
[04:57] <IdleOne> only tedious if you try to do it perfect
[04:58] <IdleOne> but
[04:58] <IdleOne> I have a plan
[04:58] <robbmunson> im a perfectionist IdleOne...
[04:58] <IdleOne> I intend on purposely make it bad
[04:58] <IdleOne> :)
[04:58] <IdleOne> s/make/making
[04:59] <bodhizazen> Jason1, poke
[04:59] <bodhizazen> tar xvf archive.tar -C /var
[04:59]  * zkriesse hugs bodhizazen 
[04:59] <bodhizazen> put the -C last
[05:01] <JoeMaverickSett> how do i join the beginners team?
[05:01] <IdleOne> launchpad
[05:02] <IdleOne> and send me $5
[05:02] <IdleOne> joining the team is free
[05:02] <JoeMaverickSett> LOL!
[05:02] <IdleOne> the 5 bucks is a loan
[05:02] <IdleOne> :)
[05:02] <JoeMaverickSett> i would go to court for charging me $5. =P
[05:03] <bodhizazen> 'lo JoeMaverickSett =)
[05:03] <bodhizazen> You are in the right place
[05:03] <JoeMaverickSett> haha!
[05:04]  * bodhizazen wonders if we have a policy re: membership
[05:04] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners
[05:05] <JoeMaverickSett> IdleOne, okie.
[05:06] <IdleOne> team seems to be restricted
[05:07] <IdleOne> I don't see a join link
[05:07] <JoeMaverickSett> nvm then.
[05:08] <IdleOne> you gave up quick
[05:08] <IdleOne> poke zkriesse ^^^
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> lol! this channel is enough atm.
[05:08] <bodhizazen> JoeMaverickSett, ask paultag
[05:09] <JoeMaverickSett> bodhizazen, alrighty.
[05:09] <paultag> what?
[05:09] <paultag> darn kids pinging me
[05:10]  * JoeMaverickSett hides  under his laptop! =P
[05:10] <Jason1> i just did useradd -g sudo jason but I don't have a home folder
[05:10] <Jason1> am i supposed to make that mysefl?
[05:10] <paultag> Jason1: sudo adduser
[05:10] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: don't be scared of paultag, his bark is way worse then his bite
[05:10] <JoeMaverickSett> lol!
[05:11] <Jason1> i was root when I made it
[05:11] <IdleOne> Jason1: you enabled a root account in Ubuntu?
[05:11] <paultag> IdleOne: way to ruin my fun
[05:11] <IdleOne> paultag: I didn't tell him that you actually do bite lol
[05:12] <paultag> :P
[05:12] <JoeMaverickSett> haha!
[05:12] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, IdleOne was telling me about the ubuntu-beginners-team on launchpad. says it's restricted.
[05:13] <Jason1> im logged in as root so I can create the user accounts
[05:13] <JoeMaverickSett> could i join that?
[05:14] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: You need to become a member
[05:14] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: There is a membership process outlined on the wiki
[05:14] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, okie. taking a look at it now.
[05:15] <IdleOne> Jason1: Ubuntu does not have a root account to log into, that means you enabled the root account. WHY?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> paultag, you like my new avatar ?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/customavatars/avatar89054_118.gif
[05:16] <paultag> bodhizazen: that's awesome as hell
[05:16] <paultag> bodhizazen: kick some ass :)
[05:17] <bodhizazen> Jason1, did you see my last message ?
[05:18] <Jason1> ok im logged in as me now but sudo su to root
[05:18] <bodhizazen> re: tar ?
[05:18] <bodhizazen> Jason1, sudo -i
[05:18] <bodhizazen> lol
[05:18] <bodhizazen> then
[05:18] <IdleOne> The thing is, being in the beginners channel asking about adding a user account and then stating you are logged in as root. IS exactly why root is locked by default.
[05:18] <Jason1> im running 10.04 lts server
[05:18] <bodhizazen> tar xvf archive.tar -C /var
[05:20] <Jason1> root is disabled
[05:25] <Jason1> im in here  to learn.  If Im doing something that isn't smart let me know.
[05:26] <Jason1> just typing in commands doesn't mean I actually understand what it is doing.,
[05:30] <bodhizazen> Jason1, were you able to extract the archive to /var ?
[05:30] <bodhizazen> and sudo -i is preferred to sudo su
[05:34] <Jason1> I was not because I caught flack for being logged in as root.  So I've been trying to "properly" setup a sudo user and then do it.
[05:34] <Jason1> i did useradd -g sudo jason
[05:34] <Jason1> there is no home directory though
[05:34] <Jason1> (for jason)
[05:35] <Dextralus> Ha! :D I got the wireless working on my samsung n220
[05:35] <Jason1> i turned off root from the sshd_config file and am now on "jason" with sudo su
[05:36] <bodhizazen> how did you add your user ?
[05:38] <Jason1> useradd jason
[05:43] <bodhizazen> Jason1, use adduser next time
[05:43] <bodhizazen> adduser Jason
[05:43] <bodhizazen> that will make a /home for you
[05:47] <bodhizazen> ttfn
[05:47] <bodhizazen> my internet connection sucks
[05:55] <JoeMaverickSett> even if i have a mentor in Ubuntu Youth, i still need to find a mentor in Ubuntu Beginners Team, is that right?
[06:18] <slidinghorn> JoeMaverickSett, I believe that's the case
[06:19] <JoeMaverickSett> slidinghorn, alright. thanks.
[07:05] <homeero> hi.. i used to have wubi installed for ubuntu 10.04, but i deleted it and installed in a new partition.. however i did "dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt"
[07:05] <homeero> that gave me a text file with all the packages i had installed
[07:06] <homeero> so i ran another command to make apt-get to install all of them.. but the terminal says it is going to uninstall "grub-pc" so can i uninstall it and then reinstall it.. or is it unnecesary
[07:07] <homeero> ... did i explained myself?
[07:21] <hobgoblin> homeero: yes you did explain yourself, I'd not be letting it remove grub-pc
[07:22] <hobgoblin> but you could as you say reinstall it afterwards - or just remove it from the text file
[07:22] <homeero> so.. i tried removing the "grub-pc      uninstall" part from the text file but it will want to remove it anyways
[07:22] <homeero> i guess ill just reinstall it afterwards
[07:23] <homeero> Thanks hobgoblin
[07:24] <hobgoblin> personally I prefer to just install what I need - a large proportion of anything on the list will be installed anyway and it's easy to miss something
[07:26] <homeero> i would do that but i messed around with the packages and stuff and i liked the apps i had installed.. and im sure ill end up forgetting something so ill just mass install everything i had earlier
[07:27] <hobgoblin> lol - well I have a list of the things I need to install - so it is a oneliner anyway - the most important thing to have in my opinion are any configs you have edited and if you have a copy of /home then you have user specific confs for apps that need them
[07:30] <homeero> actually i tried backing up /home.. but i couldnt.. but anyways i can re-configure all the apps
[07:32] <hobgoblin> homeero: all you need to do is copy /home/user/whatever - needs to be in the same name though I suspect
[07:32] <homeero> ok.. so ill install about 2 Gb of packages.. wish me luck..
[07:32] <homeero> cya and thak you
[07:33] <homeero> ohh nvm i already trashed the wubi instalation..
[07:33] <homeero> cyaa
[08:31] <zkriesse> Hell yeah bodhi...kick ass
[11:06] <Fanshawe> how do I edit the default program a file is opened with? 'Preferred applications' is no help here.
[11:09] <JoeMaverickSett> Fanshawe, right click >> Properties >> Open With, how about that? or is it the same as what you are saying?
[11:09] <suprengr> Fanshawe: right click on file concerned, choose: open with other application, and ensure you tick the check box is always wanted
[11:09]  * JoeMaverickSett also agrees with suprengr!
[11:10] <Fanshawe> Thank you. That worked for individual files, but I'm trying to do this for a folder where there is no 'properties' tab.
[11:10] <Fanshawe> I sometimes open entire folders (albums) in a media player that's no longer installed.
[11:11] <Fanshawe> Nautilus is still the default program, but the uninstalled one is stuck in the context menu,
[11:12] <suprengr> Fanshawe: thought about creating a playlist in the media player concerned?
[11:13] <Fanshawe> that's what I normally would do, yeah
[11:14] <Fanshawe> But I just used that as another way of opening albums
[11:15] <suprengr> Fanshawe: what about open folder, selecting all files and ~THEN~ choosing open with...
[11:18] <Fanshawe> that would've worked too, yes, but then I didn't think my media player would be irreversibly listed in Nautilus' context menu
[11:19] <suprengr> Fanshawe: why not?
[11:20] <suprengr> Fanshawe: is the real problem that you have an uninstalled app still showing in context menu?
[11:23] <Fanshawe> yes
[11:24] <suprengr> Fanshawe: reinstall it ,then do what you need to, then uninstall it. perhaps ;)
[11:26] <suprengr> Fanshawe: if still a no-go after that... maybe try #ubuntu ??
[11:47] <suprengr> Fanshawe: tried Configuration Editor?
[11:56] <geirha> Fanshawe: Do you get any output when you run this in a terminal?  grep x-directory ~/.local/share/applications/mime*
[14:47] <stlsaint> man that sucks
[15:24] <Jason3> Can someone help me figure out in the /etc/hosts file, when I am trying to setup a FQDN the third coloumn is what the machine thinks it is called?    For localhost its pretty opbvious.  but if I have just set my machine name to "gatorade" does it go X.X.X.X www.mymachine.com gatorade?
[15:24] <paultag> Jason3: 64.251.17.50 Seraphiel.Whube.com  Seraphiel
[15:24] <paultag> Jason3: that's a line from one of my servers
[15:25] <paultag> Jason3: caps kinda suck, but you can ignore that
[15:25] <paultag> I set it up a while ago
[15:33] <geirha> The format is explained in ''man hosts''
[15:33] <paultag> +1 geirha
[16:14] <Jason3> still getting a problem "sudo: unable to resolve host gatorade" after I do sudo -i
[16:17] <hobgoblin> Jason3: check this thread out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[16:22] <Jason3> still getting the error.  Im sure though it has to do with the config file
[16:22] <Jason3> err..  hosts
[16:23] <Jason3> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[16:23] <Jason3> x.x.x.x mywebsite.com gatorade
[16:24] <aveilleux> Jason3: Is x.x.x.x actually in your hosts file?
[16:26] <Jason3> hahah  no..  i removed the numbers
[16:26] <aveilleux> Jason3: Just checking
[16:27] <Jason3> no prob
[16:30] <Jason3> argh!   fixed it!  didn't type in the #s correctly
[16:31] <aveilleux> Ahhh.
[16:31] <hobgoblin> so it was the file then ;)
[16:49] <Jason3> it was user error!  =)
[16:50] <aveilleux> Jason3: There's a term for that... PEBKAC
[16:51] <aveilleux> Jason3: Though addmitedly that's a term usually reserved for plebs
[16:51] <hobgoblin> or anyone else :)
[16:52] <hobgoblin> don't try and tell me you never succumbed to pebkac aveilleux :)
[16:52] <aveilleux> hobgoblin: NUH UH I'M A COMPYOOTER GOD
[16:52] <isiah> I need a copy of starcraft 2, but dont want to pay 60 bucks for it
[16:52] <aveilleux> isiah: Wait a few months for it to go down in price
[16:52] <isiah> do you think they will trade me for a pint of blood?
[16:53] <isiah> slightly used
[16:54] <isiah> all those koreans are getting good at the game as we speak
[16:55] <isiah> by the time I get a copy they will be much more powerful
[16:55] <hobgoblin> never ceases to amaze me you lot sell blood :)
[16:56] <isiah> I actually heard they dont pay for blood anymore
[16:56] <isiah> or organs
[16:56] <hobgoblin> supposed to be giving a pint of mine next week I think
[16:58] <isiah> I cant do that
[16:59] <isiah> honestly I am terrified of needles
[16:59] <aveilleux> isiah: The koreans have been good at SC2 since the alpha release
[16:59] <isiah> everyday they get better
[17:00] <isiah> and I become more of a newb
[17:00] <hobgoblin> isiah: you would not have liked the last blood test I ahd then - 4 goes trying to get blood from a wrist artery - in the end I fainted - it hurt ...
[17:02] <isiah> I got into a car accident a few years back, and they had to run a line of pain killers into me. The guy took a look at my arm before he started and screamed "quick get the intern". According to him I have like the best possible veins for this and could be a great drug addict, so they wanted the intern to practice on me
[17:03] <hobgoblin> lol
[17:04] <isiah> I think that was the moment I became terrified of needles
[17:04] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:05] <isiah> has someone written a tutorial on running starcraft2 through wine yet?
[17:09] <hobgoblin> no idea - it's a game so I ignore it
[17:09] <aveilleux> isiah: I don't think it's been done yet
[17:09] <hobgoblin> I would say hi st33med - but I don't think I will
[17:09] <st33med> :(
[17:09]  * st33med sits in a corner and cries
[17:09] <hobgoblin> oh
[17:09] <hobgoblin> :(
[17:09] <hobgoblin> hi st3 :)
[17:09] <st33med> MEANIE!
[17:10] <st33med> Hi :)
[17:10] <hobgoblin> tab fail
[17:10] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:10] <isiah> the only two reasons I keep windows around is netflix and video games
[17:11] <hobgoblin> the only windows I have now is an old win2k install disc and some glassy things in the walls
[17:11] <isiah> I would like to mess around with apple stuff
[17:13] <hobgoblin> isiah: I'd like an orchard and a house to go with it
[17:13] <JoeMaverickSett> how do i get back my OpenPGP key, if i reinstalled my pc?
[17:13] <isiah> I have that already
[17:14] <isiah> but only two apple trees so far
[17:17] <isiah> JoeMaverickSett: you lost your public or private key?
[17:17] <JoeMaverickSett> isiah, no i was thinking what if i had to reinstall the whole pc. how would i recover then?
[17:17] <JoeMaverickSett> no keys lost yet.
[17:18] <isiah> basically you should export your public key to one of those databases
[17:18] <isiah> and your private key can be exported locally to say your desktop, where you can copy it to like a memory stick
[17:19] <JoeMaverickSett> if i had signed the CoC, that means that my public key is on the server, right?
[17:19] <isiah> check the server
[17:19] <isiah> just go there and search fro yourself
[17:19] <JoeMaverickSett> i've signed it. =D
[17:19] <isiah> I did that once and found that over the years I have made like 50 keys
[17:19] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: No, that's just the public key. Your private key is not on the server.
[17:20] <JoeMaverickSett> oh!
[17:20] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: I'm not on Linux right now, but I think it should be on file in ~/.ssh somewhere
[17:20] <isiah> honestly, I know a lot of people who just include there public key in there email signature
[17:20] <JoeMaverickSett> the private key? aveilleux.
[17:21] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Yes, I think it's in there. I'd have to reboot to Ubuntu to check, though.
[17:21] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Let me do that now.
[17:21] <isiah> hehee, you really should encrypt your private key
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, don't do it just for me.
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> =D
[17:22] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Don't worry, I've got three computers :3
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, wow! =D
[17:22] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Just gotta boot up one of my other ones
[17:23] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Well, seven if you count the server and the three computers in my closet
[17:23]  * JoeMaverickSett salutes aveilleux.
[17:23] <JoeMaverickSett> =)
[17:23] <isiah> I only got 3 comps
[17:24] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Wait nooo that's RSA, not PGP
[17:24] <JoeMaverickSett> i just did install xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu, then when i wanted to convert back to Ubuntu, i think i sort of first removed xubuntu-desktop first. so, i'm thinking i might need a re-installation.
[17:24] <isiah> I wonder what encryption algorithms Batman uses?
[17:24] <JoeMaverickSett> =(
[17:25] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: No, you just need to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:25] <JoeMaverickSett> then? next step? aveilleux.
[17:25] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: That's all you need to do, assuming you have a functioning command-line system
[17:26] <JoeMaverickSett> now i'm kinda like on xubuntu, i just did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version"
[17:27] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: At the login screen, look at the bottom (after selecting your username). In the "Sessions" dropdown menu, select "GNOME".
[17:27] <JoeMaverickSett> eh, that is possible. but then the splash screen?
[17:27] <JoeMaverickSett> it's still Xubuntu. =D
[17:28] <JoeMaverickSett> i tried sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash. but no go.
[17:28] <JoeMaverickSett> or my command is wrong?
[17:28] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't use usplash anymore, it uses ssssssomething else I don't remember the name of.
[17:29] <IdleOne> plymouth
[17:29] <aveilleux> IdleOne +1
[17:29] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, oh! i'm such a newbie.
[17:29] <JoeMaverickSett> so, how do i remove that?
[17:30] <JoeMaverickSett> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth? =P
[17:30] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: look for something like xubuntu artwork plymouth or some such
[17:30] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html Maybe?
[17:30] <IdleOne> !puregnome
[17:30] <ubot2> Factoid 'puregnome' not found
[17:30] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe! "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth" is no go. =)
[17:31] <paultag> you can't ever really remove plymouth
[17:31] <paultag> it's built into the kernel, dawg
[17:31] <paultag> you can remove splash from grub
[17:31] <paultag> but it's still "there"
[17:31] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-change-plymouth-themes-initial-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-10-04  This might be more like what you're looking for
[17:31] <IdleOne> he is not removing plymouth but the artwork file that plymouth uses
[17:31] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe! i don't quite understand it yet. still learning.
[17:32] <IdleOne> !purexfce
[17:32] <ubot2> If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »
[17:32] <hobgoblin> last time I used on of aysiu's puredesktop things it went wrong
[17:32] <aveilleux> IdleOne, he doesn't want XFCE. He wants to revert back to GNOME.
[17:32] <JoeMaverickSett> ah! nope, i want to remove all Xfce. and have back all Gnome.
[17:32] <JoeMaverickSett> yeah. that's the case.
[17:32] <hobgoblin> then there is a pure gnome one too
[17:33] <IdleOne> aveilleux: yeah I am trying to find the correct package name
[17:33] <aveilleux> IdleOne, JoeMaverickSett: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[17:33] <IdleOne> that's the one
[17:33] <hobgoblin> JoeMaverickSett:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ is a good resource to bookmark fullstop
[17:34] <IdleOne> xubuntu-plymouth-theme
[17:34] <JoeMaverickSett> trying that now. yeah i'm going to "Read It Later" bookmark. hobgoblin.
[17:34] <IdleOne> remove that and log out then back in and should see the ubuntu splash
[17:34] <hobgoblin> the only thing missing from there now is a dualboot page - he changed it to wubi
[17:35] <IdleOne> or run the entire command just to make sure
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> after that should i do sudo /etc/init.d/dmg restart ?
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> or is it the right command?
[17:35] <IdleOne> alt-sysrq-k
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> oh!
[17:35] <IdleOne> or ctrl-alt-del if you enabled it
[17:35] <IdleOne> !dontzap
[17:35] <ubot2> To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[17:36] <JoeMaverickSett> i think the former one will work.
[17:36] <IdleOne> err ctrl-alt-backspace
[17:39] <JoeMaverickSett> brb!
[17:43] <IdleOne> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[17:44] <shahan> Happy Friendship Day to all
[17:44] <shahan> :)
[17:44] <hobgoblin> hi shahan
[17:44] <shahan> hobgoblin: hello... happy friendship day
[17:44] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: someone copied it over then :)
[17:44] <JoeMaverickSett> i'm back and alive! =D
[17:45] <IdleOne> hobgoblin: I did
[17:45] <hobgoblin> or a ghost in the ether JoeMaverickSett :)
[17:45] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: so everything is good now?
[17:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> heya shahan. Long time no see
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> =D
[17:45] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: good one
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> yeah, except that i lost my pidgin, xchat and virtualbox. =D
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> had to reinstall.
[17:45] <shahan> IAmNotThatGuy: ya... I was out of internet... And was doing for a website design
[17:45] <IdleOne> not to bad
[17:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> cool shahan
[17:46] <JoeMaverickSett> btw, thanks for helping this MOTU-wannabe-noob! =D
[17:46] <shahan> IAmNotThatGuy: nice to meet you
[17:46] <shahan> Just 5 mins ago, while I was starting the PC, a message appeared in a BLACK screen and its hang
[17:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> shahan: IAmNotThatGuy
[17:47] <shahan> (Process:325): GLib-warning ** : getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[17:47] <shahan> Then I restart the PC (ctrl+alt+delete), I have backed the Desktop. Why this has been appeared? Is my PC going to be crashed?
[17:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hmm..graphics library file is showing an error......
[17:48] <jagan185> HI everyone.
[17:49] <JoeMaverickSett> Yo! wad up? jagan185.
[17:49] <hobgoblin> good whatever time it is there to you jagan185
[17:49] <jagan185> If I wanted to migrate from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 with a new installation, can save my settings, applications etc....
[17:51] <hobgoblin> you should be able to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - backup, I'd also make sure to remove all 3rd party repos and do an install of ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> shahan: It seems It is a bug http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443231&page=3
[17:52] <IdleOne> !separatehome
[17:52] <ubot2> Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> thats the thread where people discussed about that
[17:52] <IdleOne> another useful link from them crazy kittehs
[17:54] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: another one I've used :)
[17:54] <IdleOne> me too
[17:54] <IdleOne> haven't looked back since lol
[17:54] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:54] <IdleOne> /home is a beautiful thing
[17:55] <hobgoblin> I think I had that site as a home page when I started :)
[17:55] <IdleOne> my home page is #ubuntu
[17:55] <paultag> I just wrote a hello world app in c
[17:55] <IdleOne> I don't need to bookmark, the bot does it for me
[17:55] <paultag> anyone wana see?
[17:55] <IdleOne> lol
[17:55] <paultag> http://pastebin.com/K6A6ANqi <-- just done
[17:56] <paultag> What? Don't believe me? Compile it!
[17:56] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: I only go there to see how much better the grass is on the other side
[17:56] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: my home page is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87
[17:56] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:57] <jagan185> Thanks ubot2.
[17:57] <hobgoblin> paultag: I always believe you ...
[17:57] <paultag> :)
[17:57] <paultag> Because it's flippen sweet
[17:57] <hobgoblin> and did you look that band up?
[17:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> OMG paultag. Is that needed to write that much biggy?? ?_?
[17:57] <jagan185> What about the customisations, panels, docks?
[17:57] <paultag> hobgoblin: yes, and I loved them for sure
[17:57] <paultag> hobgoblin: I forgot their name though
[17:57] <hobgoblin> excellent
[17:57] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: I'm never one to take the easy route
[17:57] <IdleOne> I was never big on the forums
[17:58] <paultag> hobgoblin: what was their name again?
[17:58] <hobgoblin> stars of the lid
[17:58] <paultag> IdleOne: let me know if it compiles :3
[17:58] <paultag> AH YES!
[17:58] <paultag> thanks hobgoblin :D
[17:58] <IdleOne> why would I want to compile that lol
[17:58] <drubin> paultag: wtf
[17:58] <paultag> IdleOne: because I wrote it lovingly
[17:58] <paultag> drubin: it works!
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: do one thing, swim back to USA,then start walking towards Boston
[17:58] <paultag> a few -Wall errors
[17:58] <paultag> but totally worth  it
[17:58] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: :)
[17:59] <drubin> paultag: what does it do?
[17:59] <paultag> tag@wintermute:~/TrashFolder/bfc$ ./test
[17:59] <paultag> Hello World!
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: c'mon man you said "I'm never one to take the easy route" then take that
[17:59] <paultag> drubin: the most kickassists hello world in C ever
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> :P
[17:59] <drubin> paultag: Ok it was worth it
[17:59] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: Pfft
[17:59] <paultag> drubin: It's pretty rad :)
[18:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[18:00] <paultag> drubin: I'm saving that for the next time I see a "How do I do hello world in c?"
[18:00] <drubin> geirha: How do you compile it?
[18:00] <IdleOne> paultag: can you script me a coffee cup that auto refills?
[18:00] <drubin> paultag: ^ gcc or soemthing else
[18:00] <paultag> IdleOne: I wish :/
[18:00] <paultag> drubin: gcc works
[18:01] <paultag> drubin: a few -Wall warnings, but nothing to worry about
[18:01] <paultag> drubin: it's whining about how I use pointers. Pfft.
[18:01] <paultag> I could fix the return warning
[18:01] <paultag> but I don't really care
[18:01] <recognizer> hi, anybody have problem with the  mouse cursor? It doesnt appear in the session start
[18:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: tweeted your program :D
[18:02] <paultag> thanks IAmNotThatGuy :D
[18:02] <drubin> wtf why does it compile to a.out
[18:02] <paultag> drubin: gcc -o test test.c
[18:03] <IdleOne> ok teach me
[18:03] <IdleOne> how do I compile that?
[18:03] <drubin> paultag: over it it works and is awezosme
[18:03] <paultag> IdleOne: that command I just posted to drubin
[18:03] <paultag> drubin: thanks :D
[18:03] <paultag> IdleOne: where test.c is the text in that pastebin
[18:04] <IdleOne> hmm all that did was put a new icon on my Desktop
[18:04] <paultag> IdleOne: hurm?
[18:05] <IAmNotThatGuy> in your home folder IdleOne
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: cd ~
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: mv raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi test.c
[18:05] <IdleOne> yeah I got the file, renamed to .c
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: gcc -o test test.c
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: ./test
[18:06] <drubin> paultag: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi -O test.c
[18:06] <paultag> <3 drubin
[18:06] <paultag> that's the one
[18:06] <drubin> I have had to wget some pretty DODGY urls and bash doesn't like renaming them P:)
[18:06] <IdleOne> Dude seriously! I was expecting to see fireworks or some cool stuff happen, like maybe it could pretend to delete /home or something lol
[18:06] <paultag> hahaha
[18:06] <drubin> when you have & and ? and = in file names
[18:07] <drubin> IdleOne: that is the most verbose hello world ever
[18:07] <paultag> IdleOne: not with that code. That's the biggest crapfest I've ever done
[18:07] <drubin> it is awesome
[18:07] <paultag> it rocks
[18:07] <paultag> it uses an array + a single pointer to do it
[18:07] <paultag> it's kinda like a turing machine
[18:08] <paultag> the "tape" has a max size but meh
[18:08] <paultag> it's just hello worl
[18:08] <paultag> d
[18:09] <IdleOne> paultag: In case you were wondering, Rocky went on to fight Mr. T and also some big Russian dude and won
[18:09] <IdleOne> Apollo is now dead :(
[18:09] <drubin> OMG I met Mr T on thursday night
[18:09] <Jason3> I'm getting a pop-up to download the index.php file after installing php rather than it opening the page in my webbrowser.
[18:09] <Jason3> ??
[18:09] <IdleOne> drubin: did he pity you?
[18:10] <drubin> nah it was a friend, but his credit card had Mr T on it
[18:10] <drubin> it was awesome
[18:10] <IdleOne> lol
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne:  Ohnoes!!
[18:11] <paultag> drubin: haha no frak
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne: dude I lol'd so hard last night
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne: I got the memo on my phone and just loved it
[18:18] <Jason3> bump
[18:21] <Jason3> nvmd it was the browsers cache not getting updated
[18:33] <isiah> nerd music break!!!!
[18:33] <isiah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
[18:41] <IdleOne> paultag: ")
[18:54] <Jason3> anyone know of a good post on the best way to backup my server (10.04)?
[19:01] <hobgoblin> Jason3: a start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC a search engine http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/
[19:34] <isiah> hey anyone around with skype?
[19:34] <zkriesse> I am isiah
[19:34] <zkriesse> What is the issue
[19:34] <isiah> I just got it and would like to test it
[19:34] <isiah> would you mind?
[19:34] <zkriesse> Sure not a problem
[19:34] <isiah> ok what is your skype number?
[19:40] <Jason3> what does this mean for tar -v verbosely list files processed ?
[19:41] <isiah> you want to know what happens when you type in "tar -v"?
[19:41] <Jason3> well i want to know what verbosely list files processed means.  So kind of.
[19:42] <isiah> what did man say?
[19:42] <Jason3> verbosely list files processed
[19:42] <isiah> my guess would be to show you every file as it upacks
[19:42] <isiah> I might have a tar ball around to test it
[19:42] <isiah> brb....testing
[19:43] <Jason3> thx
[19:43] <Jason3> I have a medium sized file but it has a TON of files in it to unpack.
[19:47] <isiah> ok it seems to do whatever else it was going to do, plus it lists all the files in the terminal
[19:47] <Jason3> ok thanks!
[19:47] <isiah> so, I guess that could have some use
[19:48] <isiah> not sure what exactly
[19:48] <Jason3> sudo tar -xf -C /srv srv.tar.gz
[19:48] <Jason3> what did i do wrong here?
[19:48] <isiah> what are you trying to do?
[19:48] <Jason3> unpack the srv.tar.gz file into the /srv directory
[19:49] <isiah> sudo mv srv.tar.gz && tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:49] <isiah> try that
[19:50] <isiah> let me know if it works
[19:51] <Jason3> i don't get it.  move the file, but not to anywhere?
[19:52] <isiah> agh
[19:52] <isiah> sudo mv srv.tar.gz /srv && tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:52] <isiah> sorry
[19:54] <Jason3> no
[19:54] <Jason3> Cannot open: No such file or directory
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Child returned status 2
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[19:54] <isiah> ok move the file
[19:54] <isiah> then do the tar thing
[19:54] <Jason3> into /srv?
[19:54] <isiah> yes
[19:54] <Jason3> done
[19:54] <isiah> now
[19:55] <isiah> sudo tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:56] <isiah> internet blow up?
[19:56] <Jason3> ok that worked.  it is one dirctory off.  are there any options i need to mv the whole folder and all the files into another or will sudo mv work?
[19:57] <isiah> so now you got a /srv/srv directory?
[19:57] <isiah> full of files?
[19:57] <Jason3> heheh yeah
[19:58] <Jason3> actually I only really need to move one of the folders and have it overwrite if there are files with the same names
[19:58] <isiah> I dont remember
[19:58] <Jason3> dir -all
[19:58] <Jason3> errr.  wrong window sorrt!
[19:59] <isiah> try this
[19:59] <isiah> sudo mv -r /srv/srv /srv
[20:00] <Jason3> mv: invalid option -- 'r'
[20:00] <isiah> agh
[20:00] <isiah> I dont know
[20:01] <Jason3> man page -f?
[20:01] <isiah> can you move it manually?
[20:05] <Jason3> umm... how do you undo a rm -r?
[20:05] <isiah> you dont
[20:05] <pedro3005> you don't
[20:05] <isiah> its gone forever
[20:05] <Jason3> funny!  thank goodness for backups!
[20:05] <pedro3005> Well, technically, a file recovery program *could* be able to recover it
[20:05] <pedro3005> but it's never certain
[20:05] <isiah> cast into the 7th circle of digital hell
[20:07] <Jason3> be back in 4 minutes!  ;(
[20:16] <Jason3> how do I turn it off so that browsers don't list the files in a folder if it goes there and there is no index file?
[20:32] <geirha> Jason3: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html
[21:51] <isiah> that is not dead which can eternal lie yet with strange aeons even death may die
[21:52] <uRock> and then?
[21:53] <paultag> only then can you start living
[21:54] <isiah> i write that when the room gets boring
[22:19] <alt1231> anyone give help installing linux side by side with vista on raid0?
[22:19] <alt1231> which linux dist best to sue for it and setup details
[23:15] <isiah> i start my new job tomorrow
[23:38] <lukjad> isiah Very nice, what is it?
[23:38] <isiah> electrical engineer in-charge of electrical safety
[23:38] <lukjad> Niiice
[23:38] <lukjad> Congrats isiah !
[23:39] <isiah> thank you
[23:58] <zkriesse> Hello Dextralus