[00:09] <doctormo> paultag: wifi on the bus, if I were on a dataplan I wouldn't have to share with the youtube yokels.
[00:11] <paultag> doctormo: it can't be worse then 3G
[00:11]  * pleia2 chuckles at "youtube yokels"
[00:11] <doctormo> paultag: Never had it so can't tell, it waivers between 16 and 3kbs though.
[00:12] <paultag> doctormo: still doing better then dialup over cell
[00:12] <pleia2> there is a guy who comes to one of the lugs around here and doesn't have internet at home, he: 1) complains that all public wifi is slow 2) admits to torrenting the whole time he's on public wifi because he doesn't have a tv either
[00:12]  * pleia2 headdesk
[00:12] <paultag> doh!!!
[00:12] <paultag> pleia2: PA or out west?
[00:12] <pleia2> out west
[00:12] <pleia2> you know berkeley people, buncha nutters :)
[00:13] <paultag> aye aye
[00:16] <paultag> doctormo: fight back! Listen to youtube yourself! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBoOb2WafM
[00:17] <paultag> doctormo: more! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[00:20] <paultag> first one is awesome, second is great too
[01:05] <doctormo> pleia2: Your friend sounds like he should set of a media anarchist collective.
[03:11] <doctormo> paultag: Arrived, just in case I disappear before I arrive tomorrow :-)
[03:12] <paultag> doctormo: yuppers :)
[03:12] <paultag> doctormo: say hi to my buddies, will ya?
[03:13] <doctormo> paultag, czajkowski: I've hacked out a basic blog entry linker for the loco website while I was on the bus. The idea is to give a space for people who run events to do one of two things. Link to the blog or wiki page where their event's report is, or write a short amount in the entry it's self.
[03:14] <paultag> doctormo: is this a long-winded plot to not do team reports?
[03:14] <doctormo> It's not pushed or committed yet, I'm playing with how to make it smooth to use and easy to tie to what ever people are using. I guess it would appear sort of like a simple planet but tied to event entries in the loco directory.
[03:15] <paultag> doctormo: I think it's a good idea, but it's duplicate work, the team reports do that :/
[03:15] <doctormo> paultag: How can it be? I'm not my loco's contact any more. Actually it's what I said I would do.
[03:15] <paultag> doctormo: and the team reports are Ubuntu std, so we can't change on the LoCo level, we'd have to change on the Ubuntu community level
[03:15] <paultag> doctormo: Aye, I know
[03:16] <paultag> doctormo: just beware spending time on something that will be outside the workflow :(
[03:16] <doctormo> Well we can discuss the ins and outs of the politics if you want. I was thinking more of technical thought right now.
[03:16] <pleia2> paultag: people really do hate writing team reports :\
[03:17] <pleia2> nhandler has been the champion of it for quite some time, it's gotten better but as soon as you stop nudging people they stop doing it
[03:17] <paultag> pleia2: yeah I know
[03:17] <paultag> pleia2: I am baddddd-d at doing them
[03:17] <pleia2> I think any solution to facilitate them is worth trying
[03:18] <paultag> mm
[03:22] <doctormo> paultag, czajkowski: what is currently the data flow for reports?
[03:22] <paultag> doctormo: it's outlined on the wiki
[03:23] <doctormo> I mean all of it, from loco contact to mark's report book. you seemed to be saying that we couldn't change any part of it because it's a chain of things.
[03:23] <paultag> doctormo: check the wiki, or ask nhandler. I don't know the setup well
[03:23] <paultag> and that's why it's nice :)
[03:23] <doctormo> paultag: what is?
[03:24] <paultag> what is what?
[03:24] <paultag> my last sentince? the object of my last sentince, the setup, witch is a reference to my last sentince about reports
[03:24] <paultag> which *
[03:25] <paultag> darn, I need sleep
[03:42]  * nigelb yawns
[03:42] <nigelb> pleia2: people are lazy or forget about team reports
[03:42] <nigelb> duanedesign: thanks.  It was risky and I just gave it a shot
[03:43] <nigelb> doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports
[03:44] <paultag> Anyone know autotools?
[03:44] <paultag> I've got quite frustrated with it. Considered writting my own build system out of spite
[03:45] <nigelb> lol @ 'out of spite'
[03:45] <doctormo> paultag: The best thing to do is have a week of sleep with the autotools manual under your pillow.
[03:45] <paultag> doctormo: learning by osmosis I guess
[03:56] <duanedesign> nigelb: heh, i know that feeling. Glad it turned out well
[03:58] <duanedesign> nigelb: we have combined the OKlahoma LoCo and Tulsa LUG monthly meetings. There started to be months were no one showed up. The Tulsa lUG has a solid group that shows up every month so it works out nice.
[03:58] <paultag> duanedesign: I miss Old_Solder
[03:59] <duanedesign> paultag: heh, i am suprised he has not resurfaced
[03:59] <paultag> duanedesign: I called his house and got in touch with him
[03:59] <duanedesign> i remember that
[03:59] <paultag> duanedesign: this was for the UBT Reunion nhandler and I had planned
[04:00] <paultag> duanedesign: Yeah, I'm bummed. I even had CK willing to send him a new computer
[04:00] <paultag> duanedesign: because his broked
[04:00] <duanedesign> paultag: i cant imagine contributing as much as he did and not ever wanting to get involved again when things got better
[04:00] <paultag> +1 duanedesign. I think it was a planned exit
[04:01] <paultag> duanedesign: I don't think he expected my call. It's OK, live and let live, but I think he is trying to stay out
[04:06] <duanedesign> paultag: yeah, i am sure he has his reasons
[04:07] <paultag> duanedesign: Aye. Best not pry.
[04:08] <duanedesign>   paultag: no excuses! only one way out of the community! Blood in blood out! :D
[04:10] <paultag> duanedesign: seeing as how there is a gang that calls them self the locos, we should be careful with that
[04:10] <paultag> duanedesign: they are big in OK too IIRC
[04:10] <nigelb> lol
[04:12] <duanedesign> haha.
[04:21] <Pendulum> I'm at a wedding this weekend and 2 different people have come into my hotel room and gone "you have Tux!" and then I've had to pry them away from my Tux
[04:22] <nigelb> haha
[04:23] <Pendulum> yeah
[04:24] <Pendulum> I thought it was going to get more love than i did, but then I caught the bouquet which made my evening far more amusing than planned
[04:24] <nigelb> whooo!
[08:12] <vish> ooh! tabs in gedit are detachable! never noticed that one!
[08:23] <nigelb> vish: what are your plans for global jam?
[08:32] <vish> nigelb: hmm , plans?
[08:32] <vish> nigelb: whats yours ? maybe i can copy :D
[08:37] <nigelb> vish: we're planning for a meetup that day
[08:37] <nigelb> wanna join us?
[08:37] <nigelb> saturday 28th
[08:39] <vish> nigelb: havent been to B'lore in a while.. will think about it.. not sure though :)
[08:46] <nigelb> vish: ok, think of it.  we have a location that can accomodate at least 30 people
[14:05] <sense> GUADEC 2010 Hate/Love Wall pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qense/tags/hatelovewall/
[14:34] <nigelb> sense: whats swith the love for vincent untz?
[14:35] <nigelb> s/swith/with
[14:35] <sense> nigelb: I guess he's the dholbach of GNOME. :P
[14:35] <nigelb> hahaha
[14:35] <nigelb> I particularly like the "people who post +1s" and the +1 immediately after it.
[14:37] <nigelb> lol @ KDE in hate
[14:38] <nigelb> also "LP bug watch for love/hate board is missing"
[14:38] <sense> yeah :)
[14:39] <sense> We need to add a way to watch a bug's status on the Hate/Love Wall in Launchpad.
[14:52] <sense> akgraner: What was the link to the "Ubuntu News Team is looking for you!" thing?
[14:53] <sense> I would like to mail it to someone who helped with 'content creation' on the website during GUADEC, I hope he might be interested.
[14:54] <nigelb> sense: http://akgraner.com/?p=627
[14:54] <sense> nigelb: thanks!
[15:42] <doctormo> Morning paultag, feeling better?
[15:42] <paultag> doctormo: just tired
[15:42] <paultag> doctormo: have not been able to sleep lately
[15:43] <doctormo> paultag: The heat? I didn't get a tremendous amount of sleep last night either.
[15:43] <paultag> Aye
[15:43] <paultag> doctormo: spending my morning on latfh.com
[15:44] <doctormo> spent the morning talking to some debian guys and jcastro
[15:44] <paultag> yup
[17:14] <akgraner> Good Morning :-)
[17:14] <akgraner> afternoon or whatever time of day it is where you all may be :-)
[17:19] <nigelb> Night :D
[17:20] <AlanBell> afternoon akgraner
[17:21] <akgraner> hey!  working Issue 204 of UWN this one is fun! :-)
[17:21] <akgraner> nigelb, have you pulled any LoCo news from this week?
[17:22] <akgraner> nigelb, sorry I should have asked in -news
[17:22] <akgraner> :-/
[17:24] <nigelb> akgraner: I made news.   I'll help pull it now ;)
[17:25] <akgraner> nigelb, see pm :-)
[17:55] <nhandler> Anyone from the Community Council working on a Team Report for July?
[17:56] <nhandler> Or the Technical Board?
[18:16] <pleia2> much of what the CC does is private dispute resolution and answering questions from the community, it'll be pretty rare for us to have something to report
[18:17] <nhandler> pleia2: True, but they do hold meetings (when enough people show up). Even a "Held regular monthly meeting on XXX-XX-XX: No items to discuss" would be nice.
[18:17] <pleia2> perhaps, I'll talk to other CC folks about it for next month
[18:18] <nhandler> Thanks pleia2
[18:30] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks!
[21:56] <doctormo> paultag: Another quiet day
[21:56] <paultag> Sure is
[21:56] <paultag> I'm fixing my netbook... again.
[21:59] <paultag> Decided to try Arch
[21:59] <paultag> ditched it. pacman has some odd syntax. Trying Mint now
[22:02] <paultag> I also have a cool new tactic. I'm keeping an SD card flashed with an OS image and leaving it in
[22:02] <paultag> so if I need to do anything I can just F9 boot off SD
[22:10] <paultag> ditching mint. Grrr.
[22:11] <paultag> same kernel issue as Ubuntu
[22:21] <doctormo> paultag: That's not a surprise though, it's exactly the same kernel.
[22:29] <paultag> doctormo: they have a lot of diversions, so I thought the kernel would be modified as well
[22:44] <paultag> I forgot about the apt "Yes, do as I say!"