[00:09] paultag: wifi on the bus, if I were on a dataplan I wouldn't have to share with the youtube yokels. [00:11] doctormo: it can't be worse then 3G [00:11] * pleia2 chuckles at "youtube yokels" [00:11] paultag: Never had it so can't tell, it waivers between 16 and 3kbs though. [00:12] doctormo: still doing better then dialup over cell [00:12] there is a guy who comes to one of the lugs around here and doesn't have internet at home, he: 1) complains that all public wifi is slow 2) admits to torrenting the whole time he's on public wifi because he doesn't have a tv either [00:12] * pleia2 headdesk [00:12] doh!!! [00:12] pleia2: PA or out west? [00:12] out west [00:12] you know berkeley people, buncha nutters :) [00:13] aye aye [00:16] doctormo: fight back! Listen to youtube yourself! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBoOb2WafM [00:17] doctormo: more! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 [00:20] first one is awesome, second is great too [01:05] pleia2: Your friend sounds like he should set of a media anarchist collective. [03:11] paultag: Arrived, just in case I disappear before I arrive tomorrow :-) [03:12] doctormo: yuppers :) [03:12] doctormo: say hi to my buddies, will ya? [03:13] paultag, czajkowski: I've hacked out a basic blog entry linker for the loco website while I was on the bus. The idea is to give a space for people who run events to do one of two things. Link to the blog or wiki page where their event's report is, or write a short amount in the entry it's self. [03:14] doctormo: is this a long-winded plot to not do team reports? [03:14] It's not pushed or committed yet, I'm playing with how to make it smooth to use and easy to tie to what ever people are using. I guess it would appear sort of like a simple planet but tied to event entries in the loco directory. [03:15] doctormo: I think it's a good idea, but it's duplicate work, the team reports do that :/ [03:15] paultag: How can it be? I'm not my loco's contact any more. Actually it's what I said I would do. [03:15] doctormo: and the team reports are Ubuntu std, so we can't change on the LoCo level, we'd have to change on the Ubuntu community level [03:15] doctormo: Aye, I know [03:16] doctormo: just beware spending time on something that will be outside the workflow :( [03:16] Well we can discuss the ins and outs of the politics if you want. I was thinking more of technical thought right now. [03:16] paultag: people really do hate writing team reports :\ [03:17] nhandler has been the champion of it for quite some time, it's gotten better but as soon as you stop nudging people they stop doing it [03:17] pleia2: yeah I know [03:17] pleia2: I am baddddd-d at doing them [03:17] I think any solution to facilitate them is worth trying [03:18] mm [03:22] paultag, czajkowski: what is currently the data flow for reports? [03:22] doctormo: it's outlined on the wiki [03:23] I mean all of it, from loco contact to mark's report book. you seemed to be saying that we couldn't change any part of it because it's a chain of things. [03:23] doctormo: check the wiki, or ask nhandler. I don't know the setup well [03:23] and that's why it's nice :) [03:23] paultag: what is? [03:24] what is what? [03:24] my last sentince? the object of my last sentince, the setup, witch is a reference to my last sentince about reports [03:24] which * [03:25] darn, I need sleep [03:42] * nigelb yawns [03:42] pleia2: people are lazy or forget about team reports [03:42] duanedesign: thanks. It was risky and I just gave it a shot [03:43] doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports [03:44] Anyone know autotools? [03:44] I've got quite frustrated with it. Considered writting my own build system out of spite [03:45] lol @ 'out of spite' [03:45] paultag: The best thing to do is have a week of sleep with the autotools manual under your pillow. [03:45] doctormo: learning by osmosis I guess [03:56] nigelb: heh, i know that feeling. Glad it turned out well [03:58] nigelb: we have combined the OKlahoma LoCo and Tulsa LUG monthly meetings. There started to be months were no one showed up. The Tulsa lUG has a solid group that shows up every month so it works out nice. [03:58] duanedesign: I miss Old_Solder [03:59] paultag: heh, i am suprised he has not resurfaced [03:59] duanedesign: I called his house and got in touch with him [03:59] i remember that [03:59] duanedesign: this was for the UBT Reunion nhandler and I had planned [04:00] duanedesign: Yeah, I'm bummed. I even had CK willing to send him a new computer [04:00] duanedesign: because his broked [04:00] paultag: i cant imagine contributing as much as he did and not ever wanting to get involved again when things got better [04:00] +1 duanedesign. I think it was a planned exit [04:01] duanedesign: I don't think he expected my call. It's OK, live and let live, but I think he is trying to stay out [04:06] paultag: yeah, i am sure he has his reasons [04:07] duanedesign: Aye. Best not pry. [04:08] paultag: no excuses! only one way out of the community! Blood in blood out! :D [04:10] duanedesign: seeing as how there is a gang that calls them self the locos, we should be careful with that [04:10] duanedesign: they are big in OK too IIRC [04:10] lol [04:12] haha. [04:21] I'm at a wedding this weekend and 2 different people have come into my hotel room and gone "you have Tux!" and then I've had to pry them away from my Tux [04:22] haha [04:23] yeah [04:24] I thought it was going to get more love than i did, but then I caught the bouquet which made my evening far more amusing than planned [04:24] whooo! [08:12] ooh! tabs in gedit are detachable! never noticed that one! === sense_ is now known as sense [08:23] vish: what are your plans for global jam? [08:32] nigelb: hmm , plans? [08:32] nigelb: whats yours ? maybe i can copy :D [08:37] vish: we're planning for a meetup that day [08:37] wanna join us? [08:37] saturday 28th [08:39] nigelb: havent been to B'lore in a while.. will think about it.. not sure though :) [08:46] vish: ok, think of it. we have a location that can accomodate at least 30 people [14:05] GUADEC 2010 Hate/Love Wall pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qense/tags/hatelovewall/ [14:34] sense: whats swith the love for vincent untz? [14:35] s/swith/with [14:35] nigelb: I guess he's the dholbach of GNOME. :P [14:35] hahaha [14:35] I particularly like the "people who post +1s" and the +1 immediately after it. [14:37] lol @ KDE in hate [14:38] also "LP bug watch for love/hate board is missing" [14:38] yeah :) [14:39] We need to add a way to watch a bug's status on the Hate/Love Wall in Launchpad. [14:52] akgraner: What was the link to the "Ubuntu News Team is looking for you!" thing? [14:53] I would like to mail it to someone who helped with 'content creation' on the website during GUADEC, I hope he might be interested. [14:54] sense: http://akgraner.com/?p=627 [14:54] nigelb: thanks! [15:42] Morning paultag, feeling better? [15:42] doctormo: just tired [15:42] doctormo: have not been able to sleep lately [15:43] paultag: The heat? I didn't get a tremendous amount of sleep last night either. [15:43] Aye [15:43] doctormo: spending my morning on latfh.com [15:44] spent the morning talking to some debian guys and jcastro [15:44] yup [17:14] Good Morning :-) [17:14] afternoon or whatever time of day it is where you all may be :-) [17:19] Night :D [17:20] afternoon akgraner [17:21] hey! working Issue 204 of UWN this one is fun! :-) [17:21] nigelb, have you pulled any LoCo news from this week? [17:22] nigelb, sorry I should have asked in -news [17:22] :-/ [17:24] akgraner: I made news. I'll help pull it now ;) [17:25] nigelb, see pm :-) [17:55] Anyone from the Community Council working on a Team Report for July? [17:56] Or the Technical Board? [18:16] much of what the CC does is private dispute resolution and answering questions from the community, it'll be pretty rare for us to have something to report [18:17] pleia2: True, but they do hold meetings (when enough people show up). Even a "Held regular monthly meeting on XXX-XX-XX: No items to discuss" would be nice. [18:17] perhaps, I'll talk to other CC folks about it for next month [18:18] Thanks pleia2 [18:30] pleia2, thanks! [21:56] paultag: Another quiet day [21:56] Sure is [21:56] I'm fixing my netbook... again. [21:59] Decided to try Arch [21:59] ditched it. pacman has some odd syntax. Trying Mint now [22:02] I also have a cool new tactic. I'm keeping an SD card flashed with an OS image and leaving it in [22:02] so if I need to do anything I can just F9 boot off SD [22:10] ditching mint. Grrr. [22:11] same kernel issue as Ubuntu [22:21] paultag: That's not a surprise though, it's exactly the same kernel. [22:29] doctormo: they have a lot of diversions, so I thought the kernel would be modified as well [22:44] I forgot about the apt "Yes, do as I say!" === paultag_ is now known as paultag