[01:47] <hiredgun555> how do i change system sounds
[08:17] <and471> vish, I am updating this gpsdrive package
[08:18] <and471> vish, it is horrible Xp
[08:18] <vish> and471: :)
[08:19] <vish> and471:  hmm , about the other lernid debdiff , i dont think sponsors will upload a huge patch for that without a separate bug , have you asked in -motu about that diff?
[08:20] <and471> vish, no not really
[08:20] <vish> and471: err , i meant to say , *could you ask* in -motu :)
[08:21] <vish> and471: iirc its one of those [needs packaging] bugs..
[08:26] <and471> vish, well all the packaging is done, that debdiff just needs to be sponsored
[08:27] <vish> and471: yeah , i *think* they prefer such changes as a needs packaging bug.. i'm not sure though ;)
[08:35] <and471> vish, ok I will bear it in mind
[09:22] <matthiaskrgr> hello
[09:24] <matthiaskrgr_> I have a problem playing dvds
[09:24] <matthiaskrgr_> Is this the right channel?
[09:24] <and471> matthiaskrgr_, try #ubuntu, this is more for development
[09:25] <matthiaskrgr_> ok, thanks
[09:25] <matthiaskrgr_> bye
[09:36] <and471> matthiaskrgr_, no problem
[16:26] <and471> vish, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpsdrive/+bug/498705/comments/10
[16:26] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 498705 in gpsdrive (Debian) (and 3 other projects) "gpsdrive is incorrectly categorized in software-center (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,New]
[16:28] <vish> and471: aw.. looks like you tried getting help from -motu too..
[16:30] <and471> vish, :(
[16:30] <and471> vish, I tried but I came to a point where I thought, if this package ends up working, it is by luck and will probably have loads of bugs - some with the real expertise needs to give it a crack
[16:30] <and471> vish, plus I didn't really have a clue about the package itself
[16:30] <and471> vish, though I did some of the hard work with the patches :)
[16:35] <micahg> and471: does the newer debian version help at all?
[16:35] <sense> Could anyone on Maverick check if any error messages are printed to the console when they execute 'import gtk; tmp = gtk.Menu()' in a Python console? I get errors about NULL pointers and invalid types when I do so.
[16:38] <and471> micahg, no not really, it is updating a very old version of a package that has really changed a lot
[16:42] <micahg> and471: a new upstream version bug has not been reported in debian, I would suggest doing that
[16:43] <and471> micahg, sure, but the maintainer has not been active for a very long time https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/gpsdrive/+bug/498705/comments/7
[16:43] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 498705 in gpsdrive (Debian) (and 3 other projects) "gpsdrive is incorrectly categorized in software-center (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,New]
[16:45] <micahg> and471: 4 months isn't a long time
[16:45] <micahg> and471: some people are impatient
[16:45] <micahg> *inpatient
[16:45] <and471> micahg, those aren't my words :) I didn't write that comment, just followed the advice of the commenter who knew more about the package than me
[16:46] <vish> micahg: you were right the first time ;)
[16:46] <micahg> vish: heh
[16:46] <and471> micahg, I shall file a bug and hope something is done
[16:46] <micahg> and471: sometimes, better to see for yourself http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gpsdrive.html
[16:48] <vish> yay! and471 on the way to becoming a motu ;)
[16:48] <and471> heh, not even close...
[16:49] <vish> and471: i said on the way , at the start of course ;p
[16:49] <and471> :)
[16:54] <and471> micahg, vish, filed in debian :)
[17:32] <dupondje> hi guys, I got some question, want to report a bug on a strange issue, but don't know what package would be the issue
[17:32] <dupondje> The bug is: when for example firefox is on top of my screen, and I close the app (press the cross left on top) it closes not firefox, but the other program that runs also (for example terminal)
[17:48] <and471> dupondje, I have also seen this issue but neglected to file it...
[17:48] <and471> dupondje, try filing it in metacity
[17:50] <dupondje> i'll do :)
[17:59] <recognizer> hi, everybody knows how to fix a problem with the mouse cursor?. It doesnt appear when I start my session
[17:59] <recognizer> I have ubuntu 10.04 with Gnome
[18:15] <dupondje> and471: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/612304
[18:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 612304 in metacity (Ubuntu) "When closing application, not always the application with the focus is closed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:17] <and471> dupondje, cool :)
[18:17] <and471> recognizer, try #ubuntu
[18:30] <and471> sense, I get the behaviour you described on Lucid as well
[18:30] <sense> and471: That's weird.
[18:31] <sense> Must be a bug in GTK+ or PyGTK.
[18:31] <and471> sense, bad update or something?
[18:31] <and471> sense, I only just got it today, I have been developing on pygtk all this week without it
[18:32] <sense> and471: Strange. Did you recently got an update for GTK+?
[18:32] <and471> sense, can't remember, though I think I did recently update
[18:33] <and471> sense, is there a list of recently updated packages?
[18:34] <sense> and471: You could take a look at <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0> to see if an update was recently released.
[18:35] <sense> and471: Which was five weeks ago.
[18:35] <sense> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygtk
[18:35] <sense> says the last release on Lucid as 28 weeks ago.
[18:35] <and471> sense, yeah but I was hoping to see if there was a wider thing so I could look if any recent packages were associated with gtk :)
[18:36] <sense> and471: There is a 'lucid-changes' mailing list.
[18:36] <and471> sense, can you check that, I will check my software-center
[18:36] <sense> ok
[18:39] <and471> sense, the first thing I can see is yesterday I upgraded libgtk2.0-common
[18:40] <sense> ah
[18:40] <and471> sense, it has a weird version 2.20.1-0ubuntu2+menuproxy11
[18:40] <sense> and471: That could explain the menu related thing: it means that GTK+ version contains aptches to enable GtkMenuProxy, which is required for AppMenu GTK+.
[18:41] <sense> That gives me a clue where to search. :)
[18:41] <sense> Thanks and471!
[18:41] <and471> sense, no problem glad I could help :)
[18:41] <and471> sense, make sure if you find the problem to backport it, these messages are annoying when developing :D
[18:43] <sense> and471: Will do!