[01:19] <satellit__> dfarning: added tests for USR http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results
[01:21]  * satellit__ OK=Works X=will not run
[01:58] <satellit__> dfarning: I tested surf 115.xo in USR  seems to work fine Is there a place to do Download I can link for it.(Do you want me to list it on Activity Test Results?)
[03:52] <mattva01> hello, I'm the packager for the gnome fork of turtleart, what are the procedures you guys use to get your packages into universe ?
[05:15] <lfaraone> mattva01: show it to me, I review and send it to a sponsor.
[05:15] <lfaraone> mattva01: btw, you're missing mad fun at debconf.
[05:19] <mattva01> i'm sure :p
[05:20] <mattva01> I have to get to get up early tomorrow, so I'm going to head to bed, I'll send a cleaned up package to you tomorrow afternoon
[05:21] <lfaraone> mattva01: excellent. if you have questions with making it also a sugar package, let me know the CDBS / sugar maintainer is within arms reach right now.
[05:21] <lfaraone> *know, the
[05:23] <mattva01> I think I've got the hang of it, I was having issues yesterday, but solved them
[14:14] <manusheel> lfaraone: Good morning Luke.
[14:14] <manusheel> Around?
[14:32] <satellit__> dfarning: is there a place to download surf 115? works fine in USR. (do you want it listed on Actiity Test Results?
[14:32] <satellit__> s/activity
[14:39] <dfarning> satellit_ I am not sure if it is available yet.  I don't know how far along lucian and Raul are with the project.
[14:40] <dfarning> satellit_please add it to the activity test results... it is a good data point.
[14:41] <satellit__> ok: I did get a DL of .xo a while ago.  Seems to work fine  has opening html like browse  surf 08 does not...both weem to work :) USR ...0628 on 8 GB USB
[14:41] <satellit__> s/seem
[14:42] <satellit__> It is listed now http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Table_2
[14:44] <satellit__> dfarning: I have tested a number of activities on that page with USR (in BOLD)
[14:56] <dfarning> satellit_thanks.
[14:56] <satellit__> yw
[15:20] <lfaraone> manusheel: I'm at debconf at the moment.
[15:21] <lfaraone> and will be here all week
[15:23] <manusheel> lfaraone: Great.
[15:23] <manusheel> Did you meet Jonas?
[15:26] <manusheel> lfaraone: How are you finding the event?
[15:40] <lfaraone> manusheel: yes. it's engaging.
[15:41] <manusheel> lfaraone: Glad to hear.
[15:47] <kandarpk> lfaraone: around ?
[15:47] <lfaraone> kandarpk: not for anything important, I'm in a session at a conference, and wil be here all week.
[15:48] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Ok. np.
[15:48] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I've set up a temporary repo for read at:
[15:48] <kandarpk> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/temp-read-activity.git;a=summary
[15:49] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: all the changes listed as commits were made after merging from upstream.
[15:50] <manusheel> kandarpk: Great.
[15:51] <manusheel> kandarpk: Have we submitted the Read for review to Luke?
[15:51] <kandarpk> lfaraone: sir, that would require merging it with already existing repo.
[15:51] <kandarpk> manusheel sir ^^
[15:52] <kandarpk> lfaraone sorry, not for you.
[15:52] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I thought it would help if Luke first checked the steps followed were ok.
[15:53] <manusheel> kandarpk: Sure.
[15:55] <manusheel> kandarpk: Kindly send me the e-mail.
[15:56] <manusheel> Will check it, and send to ubuntu sugar team for validation.
[15:56] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: Ok.
[15:59] <dfarning> lfaraone, anything we need to do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-datastore-0.86/+bug/608760 to move it forward
[16:01] <lfaraone> dfarning: we wait.
[16:01] <dfarning> lfaraone, ok
[16:08] <dfarning> kandarpk, do you remember the IP of the USR build machine?  I am going to update it to 10.10
[16:09] <kandarpk> dfarning: I'll check.
[16:09] <kandarpk> just 2 min
[16:10] <kandarpk> dfarning: 140.186.70.115
[16:11] <dfarning> kandarpk, thanks -- I loaned my laptop to bernie while his is being repaired and am working from a netbook.
[16:12] <manusheel> dfarning: Which netbook are you using?
[16:13] <dfarning> a zareason teo  http://zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16250&cat=250&page=1
[16:19] <dfarning> kandarpk, ready for some sysadmin:)
[16:19] <kandarpk> dfarning: thats your domain, right ?
[16:19] <dfarning> kandarpk, well, I am stuck because I can't log into the usr build machine:(
[16:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: for what reason ?
[16:21] <dfarning> kandarpk, the netbook I am working from does not have the correct key to log into the SL infrastructure.
[16:21] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure.
[16:21] <kandarpk> manusheel sir, dfarning: is it safe to share private ssh keys ?
[16:22] <dfarning> for security reasons I just keep the key on my desk top and main laptop
[16:22] <manusheel> dfarning: Could you please let me know where you are stuck up.
[16:22] <manusheel> We'll help.
[16:22] <dfarning> kandarpk, no!!
[16:22] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok, was expecting that.
[16:22] <dfarning> kandarpk, manusheel I just sent a newly created public key to kandarp via email.
[16:23] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok. Could you please let me know where could we help.
[16:23] <dfarning> kandarpk, will you log into the build machine as root and add it to the end of my authorized keys file.
[16:24] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure, David. We'll work on it.
[16:25] <dfarning> kandarpk, you can 'sudo su' to once you are logged on as kandarpk to get root.
[16:25] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[16:25] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure. Thanks for the pointer.
[16:25] <dfarning> manusheel, I don't think you have root on the machine... I never though you would need it.
[16:26] <manusheel> dfarning: Does Kandarp have the root access?
[16:26] <manusheel> I don't think it is required.
[16:27] <manusheel> dfarning: Kandarp can changed to root. But, he'll need its password.
[16:28] <dfarning> manusheel, yes I am pretty sure it is set up so he can 'sudo su' with out a password once he has logged on.
[16:28] <manusheel> dfarning: Excellent.
[16:28] <manusheel> That is great.
[16:29] <dfarning> manusheel, in general we never use passwords on the infrastructure.
[16:30] <dfarning> manusheel, instead we depend on ssh keys.  no key -- no access.
[16:30] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok. That is why Bernie finds it so easy to get into any machine.
[16:31] <dfarning> manusheel, correct.  There are a couple of us that have access to all machines by default using our primary ssh key.
[16:31] <manusheel> dfarning: That is good to hear.
[16:31] <manusheel> Neat.
[16:32] <dfarning> manusheel, since I don't have access to that key. I created a tempory key just to log on to the build machine.
[16:33] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure.
[16:33] <manusheel> We just need to replace your existing key with the key you provided to Kandarp, right/
[16:34] <dfarning> manusheel, if that key is added to the end of /home/dfarning/.ssh/authorized_keys I can log into the build machine.
[16:34] <dfarning> manusheel, please append the key I sent after the existing keys in the file.
[16:35] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok, sure.
[16:35] <dfarning> manusheel, then when I get back home I can still log in from my desktop.
[16:35] <manusheel> Sure.
[16:38] <dfarning> manusheel, ok I am going to get lunch.... good luck
[16:39] <manusheel> dfarning: We have done it.
[16:39] <manusheel> Can you please check.
[16:39] <manusheel> Whether you are able to login.
[16:40] <dfarning> manusheel, kandarpk nice I am in. I expected that to take you guy a while to figure out.
[16:41] <manusheel> dfarning: We just need basic set of pointers, which you provided.
[16:41] <manusheel> Thanks.
[16:41] <dfarning> manusheel, are you guys in the same room?
[16:43] <manusheel> dfarning: No. It is past 9:10 pm in India now.
[16:43] <manusheel> :-)
[16:43] <manusheel> dfarning: I am at office. Kandarp is at home.
[16:52] <manusheel> dfarning: Around?
[17:59] <satellit__> dfarning: I just installed USR from CD to 500GB USBexternal HD. It completed sucessfully. on reboot it could not find HD by uiid and dropped into a shell. I had to hit exit and return then HD booted. Very confusing behavior -USR 20100628. Works fine now????
[18:03]  * satellit__ if I add Education/sugar-add launcher to desktop and then hit properties of sugar icon and edit command to "/usr/bin/sugar-emulator -f "I get full screen sugar-emulator...nice trick
[18:13]  * satellit__ drag-drop install of surf 115 worked well (Sharing it on f1 neighborhood) icon appears-join works for me. Bookmarks  Resume works from Journal with 3 bookmarks at bottom....NICE
[18:16] <satellitUSR-dc63> USR works Very well...
[18:18] <dfarning> satellit_ cool, I am in the process of updated the build machine to base USR on 10.10.  Then we can report all bugs to the bug track!
[18:33] <satellit__> let me know...http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo  I uploaded it here
[18:35] <manusheel> satellit__: Thank you for sharing the link on surf-115.xo
[18:35] <dfarning> satellit_ thanks I have not tested surf yet.  Can you also follow up with lucian
[18:35] <lucian> manusheel: satellit__: dfarning: http://people.sugarlabs.org/lucian/Surf-115.xo
[18:36] <satellit__> dfarning: firefox runs fine but does not close correctly (activity failed to start msg) and Icon remains on frame when shut down...It is not ready yet
[18:36] <satellit__> surf 115 works fine.
[18:36] <lucian> satellit__: mind you, it lacks many features
[18:37] <lucian> satellit__: they're mostly subtle features, but still
[18:37] <dfarning> satellit_nice.
[18:37] <satellit__> I saves bookmarks on restart...cannot test collaboration : )
[18:38] <lucian> satellit__: collaboration wasn't touched during the port, it should work
[18:38] <dfarning> lucian, a browser which lacks features is better then no browser:)
[18:38] <satellit__> Open Office 4 Kids works fine as does Gcompris 15 collection
[18:38] <lucian> dfarning: Browse-hulahop 115 lacks no features at all
[18:39] <satellit__> and administraion for gcompris as .xo's
[18:39] <lucian> anyway, the main feature that's missing is proper profile support
[18:39] <satellit__> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results  for USR
[18:39] <lucian> as in cookies, web databases, etc being saved in the instance/ folder
[18:40] <satellit__> ok: progress so far is nice
[18:42] <satellit__> defarning: as it is sugar emulator  logout clears firefox problem on reboot
[18:43]  * satellit__ I mean just restart sugar from Icon on Ubuntu desktop to clear it....
[18:44] <satellit__> Update brought in 16 applications
[21:01] <dfarning> neeraj, ping
[21:01] <neeraj> dfarning: yes
[21:03] <dfarning> do you have a minute to rebuild ubuntu-sugar-remix-default-settings and ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta in the ppa for maverick?
[21:04] <dfarning> neeraj, ^^ I am rebasing the build machine on maverick.
[21:07] <neeraj> dfarning: ok
[21:07] <neeraj> *doing that
[21:07] <dfarning> neeraj, thanks, I think settings should be straight forward.
[21:09] <dfarning> neeraj, -meta might take some work because it refers to the seed files, which might need to be regenerated.
[21:10] <neeraj> dfarning: Ok. I will ping u in case if I of ny problem :)
[21:10] <dfarning> ok, thanks.
[21:14] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok, so we are rebasing the machine on Maverick?
[21:14] <manusheel> Great.
[21:15] <dfarning> manusheel, yes I have update the machine and the USR process to build from Maverick.  This will eliminate the need for the ppa except for -setting and -meta
[21:16] <dfarning> manusheel, everything else will be in universe.
[21:16] <dfarning> manusheel, this is a big step forward.
[21:18] <dfarning> manusheel, I think the only package with value left in the ppa is matt's turtle art work.
[21:27] <neeraj> dfarning, I am unable to sign .changes file
[21:27] <neeraj> neeraj@neeraj:~/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings$ debsign -k 3FD149A5 /home/neeraj/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings/ubuntu-sugar-remix-default-settings_0.0.1ubuntu3_source.changes
[21:27] <neeraj> debsign: Only a .changes, .dsc or .commands file is allowed as argument!
[21:28] <dfarning> neeraj, I am not sure what that means:(
[21:29] <neeraj> dfarning, :(. I am not sure where I am making a mistake..
[21:29] <neeraj> dfarning, I downloaded the package, updated the changelog and added maverick in series,
[21:29] <neeraj> Ran debuild -S and command.
[21:29] <dfarning> neeraj, is there a typo at -defaul-s
[21:30] <dfarning> /home/neeraj/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings/
[21:31] <manusheel> dfarning: This is indeed a big step forward.
[21:31] <manusheel> neeraj: Don't worry. Let us examine things step by step. We'll arrive at a good conclusion.
[21:31] <neeraj> dfarning, I don't think so http://paste.ubuntu.com/471952/
[21:33] <manusheel> neeraj: shouldn't it be default
[21:33] <manusheel> in first line?
[21:33] <manusheel> neeraj: /documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings$ ls
[21:33] <manusheel> usr-default-settings
[21:33] <manusheel> Ok
[21:33] <neeraj> manusheel sir, thats just a folder name, I don't think so it will create problem
[21:33] <manusheel> That is your folder.
[21:34] <neeraj> +1
[21:34] <manusheel> Sorry:-)
[21:34] <manusheel> neeraj: Yes.
[21:34] <manusheel> neeraj: Please try to name your folders correctly.
[21:34] <neeraj> also I used tab to autocomplete, so I am sure that the path is correct.
[21:35] <neeraj> manusheel sir, Ok.
[21:36] <dfarning> neeraj, I have no idea how signing works..... you will have to ask one of the new packaging experts at SEETA:)
[21:36] <manusheel> neeraj: So, you are unable to sign the file, right?
[21:38] <neeraj> manusheel, dfarning I am pushing my changes and lets see what happens.
[21:40] <manusheel> neeraj: Let us try to debug it, first.
[21:40] <neeraj> manusheel, Ok. I am trying another package for testing
[21:41] <manusheel> neeraj: Sure.
[21:41] <manusheel> Let us see if we face the same issue there.
[22:02] <neeraj_gupta> manusheel, dfarning got my mistake :)
[22:03] <dfarning> neeraj_gupta, what was wrong?
[22:03] <neeraj_gupta> a really silly one... I forgot one thing..
[22:03] <neeraj_gupta> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/27/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t04:07
[22:03] <neeraj_gupta> dfarning, thanks :) ^^
[22:04] <manusheel> neeraj: Good hacking.
[22:04] <manusheel> Neat.
[22:04] <neeraj> a space between -k and id
[22:05] <neeraj> it should be  "-k3FD149A5" not "-k 3FD149A5"
[22:06] <dfarning> neeraj, yah that is frustrating.  It is not all ways clear when to a space before an argument.
[22:07] <neeraj> dfarning, +1 ^^
[22:07] <manusheel> neeraj: Great. Thanks for figuring this out.
[22:07] <manusheel> Keep it up.
[22:18] <neeraj> dfarning, there seems to be a problem with Lp again. :(
[22:18] <neeraj> I am unable to download the usr-meta package
[22:18] <neeraj> Can u try it at ur end?
[22:21] <manusheel> neeraj: Send me the link.
[22:22] <neeraj> manusheel, topmost package uploaded by kandarpk https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[22:25] <dfarning> neeraj, argg.
[22:30] <neeraj> dfarning, luckily I have source of ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta - 0.1ubuntu8-6
[22:30] <neeraj> while latest is ubuntu8-8
[22:31] <neeraj> as I can see the diff while, in the above two revisions only dependency on sucrose and activities were dropped.
[22:31] <neeraj> dfarning, I can drop these dependencies and upload this package to maverick. :)
[22:32] <dfarning> neeraj, +1. We want at add back the sucrose-0.88 dependancy and remove the activities dependancy.
[22:33] <neeraj> dfarning, Ok. So I will just drop activities from it :)
[22:33] <dfarning> neeraj, also isn't there a script that you run to rebuild the core package list.
[22:34] <neeraj> dfarning, err.. please explain ^^?
[22:35] <dfarning> neeraj, can you zip the source dir and send it to me?  I can't download it either... and I forgot the file names
[22:38] <neeraj> dfarning, sent
[22:43] <dfarning> neeraj, got it.
[22:44] <dfarning> neeraj, please look at update.cfg.
[22:45] <neeraj> dfarning, opened
[22:47] <dfarning> neeraj, it looks like we will need to make a new section for maverick
[22:48] <dfarning> neeraj, and update the default to maverick
[22:49] <neeraj> dfarning, http://typewith.me/RxBVidXL95
[22:51] <dfarning> neeraj, that was easy:)
[22:52] <neeraj> dfarning, :)
[22:53] <manusheel> neeraj, dfarning :-)
[22:55] <dfarning> neeraj,  now one more step, we need to look at http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/seeds/
[22:57] <neeraj> dfarning, ok
[22:58] <dfarning> neeraj, the seed files is where we tell the distro what packages to include -- such as do we want openoffice or a particular video player.
[22:59] <neeraj> dfarning, ok
[22:59] <dfarning> now we need to make seed for maverick
[23:00] <manusheel> dfarning: Nice explanation of seed files.
[23:01] <dfarning> neeraj, but I need to wait until bernie gets back with my laptop before I can access sunjammer:)
[23:02] <neeraj> dfarning, ok. Thanks for telling this :)
[23:03] <manusheel> dfarning: Can't we do the same thing for sunjammer too? Get you the access through the new key.
[23:03] <dfarning> neeraj, manusheel there is a good reference on seed management at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[23:04] <manusheel> dfarning: Kindly append the key at the end of /home/dfarning/.ssh/authorized_keys
[23:04] <manusheel> dfarning: Thanks.
[23:04] <dfarning> manusheel, it take someone with root access to add a new key to some one else's authorizied_keys file.
[23:05] <dfarning> manusheel, Only a few people have root on sunjammer and can do that.
[23:06] <manusheel> dfarning: Yes, that is correct.
[23:06] <manusheel> dfarning: Right. Sunjammer is not that open.
[23:06] <manusheel> In reference to root access.
[23:06] <dfarning> manusheel, yes.
[23:09] <dfarning> neeraj, so my mistake.... we have to wait until I get access to sunjammer.  Then we can create a new set of seed files for maverick.
[23:09] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok. And, when do we think Bernie would be back?
[23:10] <neeraj> dfarning, np.. We will wait till u get access to it.
[23:10] <dfarning> neeraj, basically we will just copy the maverick seed files from the ubuntu seed machine and adopt it to our needs.
[23:10] <dfarning> manusheel, he should be back in about 12 hours.
[23:10] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok.
[23:11] <neeraj> dfarning, Ok. Like dropping some packages we don't need and adding all sugar-activities, usr-meta and usr-default packages
[23:13] <dfarning> neeraj, exactly.  There is not much need for openoffice in USR.... and it is huge.
[23:14] <manusheel> dfarning: But, we can also include it for special needs case.
[23:14] <dfarning> neeraj, can you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement and http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/seeds/
[23:14] <manusheel> Right?
[23:14] <neeraj> dfarning, ok.
[23:15] <dfarning> manusheel, yes we can manually add it into in the build script or add in back into the seed file.
[23:16] <dfarning> manusheel, yes we can manually add it into in the build script or add in back into the seed file.
[23:17] <manusheel> dfarning: Adding it back to the seed file would be better. We can also understand the tree structure.
[23:17] <dfarning> neeraj, after looking at those resources the -meta package and the update script in the -meta package will make more sense.
[23:18] <neeraj> ok.
[23:18] <dfarning> manusheel, +1 and we should really move the seed files from my home dir on sunjammer to somewhere on the build machine.
[23:20] <manusheel> dfarning: Sure. We should do that. Germinate was modified so that we could have a structure.dot file through we can understand the seed structure through graph and trees.
[23:20] <dfarning> neeraj, manusheel I need to go get dinner be back in a bit.
[23:21] <manusheel> dfarning: It is around 4:00 am here.
[23:21] <dfarning> manusheel, yes.  it is really a a clever idea!
[23:21] <manusheel> dfarning: We might take some rest after sometime.
[23:21] <dfarning> manusheel,  ok so I will see you in your morning")
[23:21] <manusheel> dfarning: I'll be here for sometime. Sure, we can meet in the morning too.
[23:22] <dfarning> ok I be back in a bit.
[23:22] <manusheel> dfarning: Ok.
[23:22] <neeraj> dfarning, I will be also around for sometime.. I m  going out to get something to eat :)
[23:22] <neeraj> manusheel sir, brb..
[23:23] <dfarning> neeraj, ttyl
[23:23] <manusheel> neeraj: Sure, Neeraj.