[01:19] dfarning: added tests for USR http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results [01:21] * satellit__ OK=Works X=will not run === neeraj_ is now known as neeraj [01:58] dfarning: I tested surf 115.xo in USR seems to work fine Is there a place to do Download I can link for it.(Do you want me to list it on Activity Test Results?) [03:52] hello, I'm the packager for the gnome fork of turtleart, what are the procedures you guys use to get your packages into universe ? [05:15] mattva01: show it to me, I review and send it to a sponsor. [05:15] mattva01: btw, you're missing mad fun at debconf. [05:19] i'm sure :p [05:20] I have to get to get up early tomorrow, so I'm going to head to bed, I'll send a cleaned up package to you tomorrow afternoon [05:21] mattva01: excellent. if you have questions with making it also a sugar package, let me know the CDBS / sugar maintainer is within arms reach right now. [05:21] *know, the [05:23] I think I've got the hang of it, I was having issues yesterday, but solved them === neeraj_ is now known as neeraj [14:14] lfaraone: Good morning Luke. [14:14] Around? [14:32] dfarning: is there a place to download surf 115? works fine in USR. (do you want it listed on Actiity Test Results? [14:32] s/activity [14:39] satellit_ I am not sure if it is available yet. I don't know how far along lucian and Raul are with the project. [14:40] satellit_please add it to the activity test results... it is a good data point. [14:41] ok: I did get a DL of .xo a while ago. Seems to work fine has opening html like browse surf 08 does not...both weem to work :) USR ...0628 on 8 GB USB [14:41] s/seem [14:42] It is listed now http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Table_2 [14:44] dfarning: I have tested a number of activities on that page with USR (in BOLD) [14:56] satellit_thanks. [14:56] yw [15:20] manusheel: I'm at debconf at the moment. [15:21] and will be here all week [15:23] lfaraone: Great. [15:23] Did you meet Jonas? [15:26] lfaraone: How are you finding the event? [15:40] manusheel: yes. it's engaging. [15:41] lfaraone: Glad to hear. [15:47] lfaraone: around ? [15:47] kandarpk: not for anything important, I'm in a session at a conference, and wil be here all week. [15:48] lfaraone: Ok. np. [15:48] manusheel sir: I've set up a temporary repo for read at: [15:48] http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/temp-read-activity.git;a=summary [15:49] manusheel sir: all the changes listed as commits were made after merging from upstream. [15:50] kandarpk: Great. [15:51] kandarpk: Have we submitted the Read for review to Luke? [15:51] lfaraone: sir, that would require merging it with already existing repo. [15:51] manusheel sir ^^ [15:52] lfaraone sorry, not for you. [15:52] manusheel sir: I thought it would help if Luke first checked the steps followed were ok. [15:53] kandarpk: Sure. [15:55] kandarpk: Kindly send me the e-mail. [15:56] Will check it, and send to ubuntu sugar team for validation. [15:56] manusheel sir: Ok. [15:59] lfaraone, anything we need to do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-datastore-0.86/+bug/608760 to move it forward [16:01] dfarning: we wait. [16:01] lfaraone, ok [16:08] kandarpk, do you remember the IP of the USR build machine? I am going to update it to 10.10 [16:09] dfarning: I'll check. [16:09] just 2 min [16:10] dfarning: 140.186.70.115 [16:11] kandarpk, thanks -- I loaned my laptop to bernie while his is being repaired and am working from a netbook. [16:12] dfarning: Which netbook are you using? [16:13] a zareason teo http://zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16250&cat=250&page=1 [16:19] kandarpk, ready for some sysadmin:) [16:19] dfarning: thats your domain, right ? [16:19] kandarpk, well, I am stuck because I can't log into the usr build machine:( [16:20] dfarning: for what reason ? [16:21] kandarpk, the netbook I am working from does not have the correct key to log into the SL infrastructure. [16:21] dfarning: Sure. [16:21] manusheel sir, dfarning: is it safe to share private ssh keys ? [16:22] for security reasons I just keep the key on my desk top and main laptop [16:22] dfarning: Could you please let me know where you are stuck up. [16:22] We'll help. [16:22] kandarpk, no!! [16:22] dfarning: Ok, was expecting that. [16:22] kandarpk, manusheel I just sent a newly created public key to kandarp via email. [16:23] dfarning: Ok. Could you please let me know where could we help. [16:23] kandarpk, will you log into the build machine as root and add it to the end of my authorized keys file. [16:24] dfarning: Sure, David. We'll work on it. [16:25] kandarpk, you can 'sudo su' to once you are logged on as kandarpk to get root. [16:25] dfarning: Ok. [16:25] dfarning: Sure. Thanks for the pointer. [16:25] manusheel, I don't think you have root on the machine... I never though you would need it. [16:26] dfarning: Does Kandarp have the root access? [16:26] I don't think it is required. [16:27] dfarning: Kandarp can changed to root. But, he'll need its password. [16:28] manusheel, yes I am pretty sure it is set up so he can 'sudo su' with out a password once he has logged on. [16:28] dfarning: Excellent. [16:28] That is great. [16:29] manusheel, in general we never use passwords on the infrastructure. [16:30] manusheel, instead we depend on ssh keys. no key -- no access. [16:30] dfarning: Ok. That is why Bernie finds it so easy to get into any machine. [16:31] manusheel, correct. There are a couple of us that have access to all machines by default using our primary ssh key. [16:31] dfarning: That is good to hear. [16:31] Neat. [16:32] manusheel, since I don't have access to that key. I created a tempory key just to log on to the build machine. [16:33] dfarning: Sure. [16:33] We just need to replace your existing key with the key you provided to Kandarp, right/ [16:34] manusheel, if that key is added to the end of /home/dfarning/.ssh/authorized_keys I can log into the build machine. [16:34] manusheel, please append the key I sent after the existing keys in the file. [16:35] dfarning: Ok, sure. [16:35] manusheel, then when I get back home I can still log in from my desktop. [16:35] Sure. [16:38] manusheel, ok I am going to get lunch.... good luck [16:39] dfarning: We have done it. [16:39] Can you please check. [16:39] Whether you are able to login. [16:40] manusheel, kandarpk nice I am in. I expected that to take you guy a while to figure out. [16:41] dfarning: We just need basic set of pointers, which you provided. [16:41] Thanks. [16:41] manusheel, are you guys in the same room? [16:43] dfarning: No. It is past 9:10 pm in India now. [16:43] :-) [16:43] dfarning: I am at office. Kandarp is at home. [16:52] dfarning: Around? [17:59] dfarning: I just installed USR from CD to 500GB USBexternal HD. It completed sucessfully. on reboot it could not find HD by uiid and dropped into a shell. I had to hit exit and return then HD booted. Very confusing behavior -USR 20100628. Works fine now???? [18:03] * satellit__ if I add Education/sugar-add launcher to desktop and then hit properties of sugar icon and edit command to "/usr/bin/sugar-emulator -f "I get full screen sugar-emulator...nice trick [18:13] * satellit__ drag-drop install of surf 115 worked well (Sharing it on f1 neighborhood) icon appears-join works for me. Bookmarks Resume works from Journal with 3 bookmarks at bottom....NICE [18:16] USR works Very well... [18:18] satellit_ cool, I am in the process of updated the build machine to base USR on 10.10. Then we can report all bugs to the bug track! [18:33] let me know...http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo I uploaded it here [18:35] satellit__: Thank you for sharing the link on surf-115.xo [18:35] satellit_ thanks I have not tested surf yet. Can you also follow up with lucian [18:35] manusheel: satellit__: dfarning: http://people.sugarlabs.org/lucian/Surf-115.xo [18:36] dfarning: firefox runs fine but does not close correctly (activity failed to start msg) and Icon remains on frame when shut down...It is not ready yet [18:36] surf 115 works fine. [18:36] satellit__: mind you, it lacks many features [18:37] satellit__: they're mostly subtle features, but still [18:37] satellit_nice. [18:37] I saves bookmarks on restart...cannot test collaboration : ) [18:38] satellit__: collaboration wasn't touched during the port, it should work [18:38] lucian, a browser which lacks features is better then no browser:) [18:38] Open Office 4 Kids works fine as does Gcompris 15 collection [18:38] dfarning: Browse-hulahop 115 lacks no features at all [18:39] and administraion for gcompris as .xo's [18:39] anyway, the main feature that's missing is proper profile support [18:39] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results for USR [18:39] as in cookies, web databases, etc being saved in the instance/ folder [18:40] ok: progress so far is nice [18:42] defarning: as it is sugar emulator logout clears firefox problem on reboot [18:43] * satellit__ I mean just restart sugar from Icon on Ubuntu desktop to clear it.... [18:44] Update brought in 16 applications === satellit__ is now known as satellit__afk === alsroot_ is now known as alsroot [21:01] neeraj, ping [21:01] dfarning: yes [21:03] do you have a minute to rebuild ubuntu-sugar-remix-default-settings and ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta in the ppa for maverick? [21:04] neeraj, ^^ I am rebasing the build machine on maverick. [21:07] dfarning: ok [21:07] *doing that [21:07] neeraj, thanks, I think settings should be straight forward. [21:09] neeraj, -meta might take some work because it refers to the seed files, which might need to be regenerated. [21:10] dfarning: Ok. I will ping u in case if I of ny problem :) === neeraj_gupta is now known as neeraj [21:10] ok, thanks. [21:14] dfarning: Ok, so we are rebasing the machine on Maverick? [21:14] Great. [21:15] manusheel, yes I have update the machine and the USR process to build from Maverick. This will eliminate the need for the ppa except for -setting and -meta [21:16] manusheel, everything else will be in universe. [21:16] manusheel, this is a big step forward. [21:18] manusheel, I think the only package with value left in the ppa is matt's turtle art work. [21:27] dfarning, I am unable to sign .changes file [21:27] neeraj@neeraj:~/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings$ debsign -k 3FD149A5 /home/neeraj/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings/ubuntu-sugar-remix-default-settings_0.0.1ubuntu3_source.changes [21:27] debsign: Only a .changes, .dsc or .commands file is allowed as argument! [21:28] neeraj, I am not sure what that means:( [21:29] dfarning, :(. I am not sure where I am making a mistake.. [21:29] dfarning, I downloaded the package, updated the changelog and added maverick in series, [21:29] Ran debuild -S and command. [21:29] neeraj, is there a typo at -defaul-s [21:30] /home/neeraj/documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings/ [21:31] dfarning: This is indeed a big step forward. [21:31] neeraj: Don't worry. Let us examine things step by step. We'll arrive at a good conclusion. [21:31] dfarning, I don't think so http://paste.ubuntu.com/471952/ [21:33] neeraj: shouldn't it be default [21:33] in first line? [21:33] neeraj: /documents/aug2/usr-defaul-settings$ ls [21:33] usr-default-settings [21:33] Ok [21:33] manusheel sir, thats just a folder name, I don't think so it will create problem [21:33] That is your folder. [21:34] +1 [21:34] Sorry:-) [21:34] neeraj: Yes. [21:34] neeraj: Please try to name your folders correctly. [21:34] also I used tab to autocomplete, so I am sure that the path is correct. [21:35] manusheel sir, Ok. [21:36] neeraj, I have no idea how signing works..... you will have to ask one of the new packaging experts at SEETA:) [21:36] neeraj: So, you are unable to sign the file, right? [21:38] manusheel, dfarning I am pushing my changes and lets see what happens. [21:40] neeraj: Let us try to debug it, first. [21:40] manusheel, Ok. I am trying another package for testing [21:41] neeraj: Sure. [21:41] Let us see if we face the same issue there. [22:02] manusheel, dfarning got my mistake :) [22:03] neeraj_gupta, what was wrong? [22:03] a really silly one... I forgot one thing.. [22:03] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/27/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t04:07 [22:03] dfarning, thanks :) ^^ === neeraj_gupta is now known as neeraj [22:04] neeraj: Good hacking. [22:04] Neat. [22:04] a space between -k and id [22:05] it should be "-k3FD149A5" not "-k 3FD149A5" [22:06] neeraj, yah that is frustrating. It is not all ways clear when to a space before an argument. [22:07] dfarning, +1 ^^ [22:07] neeraj: Great. Thanks for figuring this out. [22:07] Keep it up. [22:18] dfarning, there seems to be a problem with Lp again. :( [22:18] I am unable to download the usr-meta package [22:18] Can u try it at ur end? [22:21] neeraj: Send me the link. [22:22] manusheel, topmost package uploaded by kandarpk https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter= [22:25] neeraj, argg. [22:30] dfarning, luckily I have source of ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta - 0.1ubuntu8-6 [22:30] while latest is ubuntu8-8 [22:31] as I can see the diff while, in the above two revisions only dependency on sucrose and activities were dropped. [22:31] dfarning, I can drop these dependencies and upload this package to maverick. :) [22:32] neeraj, +1. We want at add back the sucrose-0.88 dependancy and remove the activities dependancy. [22:33] dfarning, Ok. So I will just drop activities from it :) [22:33] neeraj, also isn't there a script that you run to rebuild the core package list. [22:34] dfarning, err.. please explain ^^? [22:35] neeraj, can you zip the source dir and send it to me? I can't download it either... and I forgot the file names [22:38] dfarning, sent [22:43] neeraj, got it. [22:44] neeraj, please look at update.cfg. [22:45] dfarning, opened [22:47] neeraj, it looks like we will need to make a new section for maverick [22:48] neeraj, and update the default to maverick [22:49] dfarning, http://typewith.me/RxBVidXL95 [22:51] neeraj, that was easy:) [22:52] dfarning, :) [22:53] neeraj, dfarning :-) [22:55] neeraj, now one more step, we need to look at http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/seeds/ [22:57] dfarning, ok [22:58] neeraj, the seed files is where we tell the distro what packages to include -- such as do we want openoffice or a particular video player. [22:59] dfarning, ok [22:59] now we need to make seed for maverick [23:00] dfarning: Nice explanation of seed files. [23:01] neeraj, but I need to wait until bernie gets back with my laptop before I can access sunjammer:) [23:02] dfarning, ok. Thanks for telling this :) [23:03] dfarning: Can't we do the same thing for sunjammer too? Get you the access through the new key. [23:03] neeraj, manusheel there is a good reference on seed management at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement [23:04] dfarning: Kindly append the key at the end of /home/dfarning/.ssh/authorized_keys [23:04] dfarning: Thanks. [23:04] manusheel, it take someone with root access to add a new key to some one else's authorizied_keys file. [23:05] manusheel, Only a few people have root on sunjammer and can do that. [23:06] dfarning: Yes, that is correct. [23:06] dfarning: Right. Sunjammer is not that open. [23:06] In reference to root access. [23:06] manusheel, yes. [23:09] neeraj, so my mistake.... we have to wait until I get access to sunjammer. Then we can create a new set of seed files for maverick. [23:09] dfarning: Ok. And, when do we think Bernie would be back? [23:10] dfarning, np.. We will wait till u get access to it. [23:10] neeraj, basically we will just copy the maverick seed files from the ubuntu seed machine and adopt it to our needs. [23:10] manusheel, he should be back in about 12 hours. [23:10] dfarning: Ok. [23:11] dfarning, Ok. Like dropping some packages we don't need and adding all sugar-activities, usr-meta and usr-default packages [23:13] neeraj, exactly. There is not much need for openoffice in USR.... and it is huge. [23:14] dfarning: But, we can also include it for special needs case. [23:14] neeraj, can you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement and http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/seeds/ [23:14] Right? [23:14] dfarning, ok. [23:15] manusheel, yes we can manually add it into in the build script or add in back into the seed file. [23:16] manusheel, yes we can manually add it into in the build script or add in back into the seed file. [23:17] dfarning: Adding it back to the seed file would be better. We can also understand the tree structure. [23:17] neeraj, after looking at those resources the -meta package and the update script in the -meta package will make more sense. [23:18] ok. [23:18] manusheel, +1 and we should really move the seed files from my home dir on sunjammer to somewhere on the build machine. [23:20] dfarning: Sure. We should do that. Germinate was modified so that we could have a structure.dot file through we can understand the seed structure through graph and trees. [23:20] neeraj, manusheel I need to go get dinner be back in a bit. [23:21] dfarning: It is around 4:00 am here. [23:21] manusheel, yes. it is really a a clever idea! [23:21] dfarning: We might take some rest after sometime. [23:21] manusheel, ok so I will see you in your morning") [23:21] dfarning: I'll be here for sometime. Sure, we can meet in the morning too. [23:22] ok I be back in a bit. [23:22] dfarning: Ok. [23:22] dfarning, I will be also around for sometime.. I m going out to get something to eat :) [23:22] manusheel sir, brb.. [23:23] neeraj, ttyl [23:23] neeraj: Sure, Neeraj. === neeraj is now known as neeraj_afk === neeraj_afk is now known as neeraj