| vish | sense: hmm , you got some weird indentations going on in that debugging wiki.. | 08:41 |
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| sense | vish: Really? In what way? | 08:41 |
| * vish fixing some | 08:42 | |
| vish | sense: oddly some words are italic and some are bold.. its wiki's fault though.. | 08:42 |
| sense | vish: Ah, do you know how to fix that? | 08:42 |
| sense | morning seb128 | 08:43 |
| vish | sense: yeah , on it.. i'm changing the layout there.. it seems to have problems when dots are present or something.. | 08:43 |
| sense | vish: Weird. Thanks for looking into it! | 08:44 |
| vish | np.. | 08:44 |
| thorwil | vish: isn't both bold and italic done with a certain number of ' | 08:44 |
| seb128 | hey sense | 08:44 |
| thorwil | vish: meaning that forgetting one throws off the markup of the entire page? | 08:45 |
| vish | thorwil: yeah , but when you look here [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingAyatana ] , you'll notice that the lines not meant to be italic are italic too | 08:45 |
| vish | thorwil: there are some forgotten markups too :) | 08:46 |
| thorwil | vish: having to write markup without any editor support, especially syntax highlighting is bad. tempted to say unacceptable, but as it seems to be wiki standard ... | 08:51 |
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| vish | sense: i think i fixed most of the markups , had to change a few lines. Just check if everything is right : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingAyatana | 09:23 |
| sense | vish: Am looking at it right now. Thank you! | 09:24 |
| vish | np.. | 09:24 |
| sense | Looks good to me. | 09:24 |
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| bratsche | vish around? | 14:43 |
| LaserJock | is the UNE PPA scheduled to get updated packages sometime soonish? | 14:48 |
| jcastro | didrocks: ^^^ | 14:51 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: either this evening or tomorrow morning | 14:51 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: didn't have the time with the sprint and GUADEC last two weeks | 14:52 |
| LaserJock | didrocks: right, makes sense | 14:59 |
| sense | bratsche: There was this patch for GTK+2.0 that added the 'child-added' and 'child-removed' signals to GtkContainers. It is used by libappindicator to detect whether a submenu was added or not. | 15:15 |
| sense | bratsche: However, it seems the signal 'child-added' is raised too little (only once), and 'child-removed' never. | 15:15 |
| sense | bratsche: Is that correct and could that be the cause of libappindicator not adding submenus to AppInd menus when they are added later? | 15:16 |
| bratsche | sense: Yeah, I'm aware of that. It's something I'd like to fix, but it's quite an investment of time to figure out everywhere that they could be emitted from. I think I only did the signal emission in the one point that really mattered for that particular bug, for now. | 15:16 |
| bratsche | If you know of any other places where it would be a useful emission then we should emit in those places as well. | 15:17 |
| sense | bratsche: I think it was not at exactly the right point, since I'm facing that bug right now. Shall I take a closer look at that bug and see where else it can be emitted? | 15:17 |
| sense | bratsche: I'll submit a new patch and subscribe you. | 15:17 |
| bratsche | Yeah, that would be great. | 15:17 |
| bratsche | Thanks. | 15:17 |
| sense | You're welcome. Thank you for your answer! | 15:17 |
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| vish | bratsche: oh hi, havent poked mpt yet , didnt wanna poke him the first thing on a Mon morn , will poke him now.. :D | 15:47 |
| bratsche | vish: It's okay, I've already done so. | 15:48 |
| vish | bratsche: oh, you already merged the branch , neat thanks! :) | 15:48 |
| bratsche | We'll see what happens, maybe it will need to be backed out later but for now it's merged in. | 15:49 |
| vish | sense: same concern was raised for "Home" too , every language is not the same , translator needs to use best judgment | 16:22 |
| sense | vish: True, but Home is of a completely different kind that Restart I think, because it is a difference in word type. Verb vs noun. | 16:23 |
| mpt | I haven't had my daily poke | 16:23 |
| sense | We should give mpt some attention? Vish, anything he can look at? | 16:24 |
| vish | mpt: Bug 586928 today's initial dose ;) | 16:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 586928 in One Hundred Paper Cuts "Change "Restart Required..." to "Restart To Complete Update..." (affected: 1, heat: 8)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586928 | 16:24 |
| vish | more to come.. ;p | 16:25 |
| sense | mpt: There was a suggestion for a translation paper cuts project reported as a paper cut. Not sure if technically speaking that bug report would be a valid paper cut, but it is an interesting suggestion. ;) | 16:25 |
| sense | mpt: Previously we also had an idea from Siegel to accept paper cuts for screenshots of applications shown in the Software Centre, next to the descriptions we're already accepting. | 16:26 |
| sense | So there are quite some potential extra paper cuts candidates, that's for sure. | 16:26 |
| vish | sense: i'm thinking of what to do with that translations bug.. me dont have enough help for the main bug , are we gonna split it for every language.. ;p | 16:26 |
| vish | sense: seems like dpm is on it :) | 16:26 |
| sense | vish: Yeah, that's good. But I don't think those paper cuts should be added to the 'hundredpapercuts' project as well. | 16:27 |
| vish | s/me/we | 16:27 |
| sense | vish: s/me/I/ | 16:27 |
| sense | Although there were some other triagers active as well. | 16:27 |
| sense | vish: I should have some more time now GUADEC is over, but Friday we depart to England for a two week holiday, and no, that does not include a visit to Millbank. ;) | 16:28 |
| vish | sense: you better start fixing some bugs, else the next time i see you , i'm gonna whip you ;) | 16:29 |
| sense | Don't make me avoid you! | 16:30 |
| sense | I am learning the bzr bd-do stuff from the desktop team right now, that could help with making fixing easier for me,t hough. | 16:31 |
| vish | sense: cool! | 16:31 |
| vish | sense: there , marked it as "Opinion" | 16:33 |
| vish | my first "opinion" \o/ | 16:33 |
| sense | yay! | 16:33 |
| sense | First! | 16:33 |
| sense | bratsche: I think I've found out why the 'child-added' signal didn't work: it was only triggered when you insert a menu item into a GtkMenuShell, but I think gtk_menu_item_set_submenu() is a separate function. However, I am now a bit in doubt. Should we use the "child-added" signal for both adding childs to a GtkMenuShell, and for adding a submenu to a GtkMenuItem, or should we create a new signal? The latter would be more consistent, but would defaut | 16:38 |
| sense | the whole purpose of the former signal. | 16:38 |
| bratsche | Yeah, makes sense. | 16:39 |
| sense | bratsche: So I could remove the child-added and child-removed signals and create a submenu-added and submenu-removed signal instead. What do you say? | 16:40 |
| bratsche | Well, I think the child-added may still be useful though. | 16:40 |
| sense | I'll keep it around. | 16:41 |
| Cimi | bratsche: I'm in london :) | 17:41 |
| bratsche | Cool | 17:46 |
| Cimi | bratsche: do you have some patches for me? :) | 18:24 |
| sense | bratsche: You were right, we actually need the 'child-added' signal elsewhere in the AppInd code. | 18:34 |
| bratsche | sense: Yeah I thought we would. But thanks for noticing the need for the submenu-added signal. | 18:39 |
| sense | bratsche: You're welcome. :) That discovery made my life easier, since I need it for the Deluge AppInd. | 18:41 |
| bratsche | sense: Nice work dude! | 18:41 |
| sense | Dang, I broke GTK+. :P | 18:48 |
| sense | Wait, that is not funny. | 18:51 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: hey, how's London? | 19:05 |
| sense | vish: What to do with bug #602680? It is the description of a non-default package that looks a lot like a default system package. Packages like these have always bothered me because they show up in the Software Centre like any other package, but they are non-default, might replace default system parts and therefore are confusing. | 20:40 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 602680 in One Hundred Paper Cuts "Description: About Myself (affected: 1, heat: 23)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602680 | 20:40 |
| vish | sense: we should hide some of them , my VM is not booting right now , so cant really check if it is hidden or not | 20:42 |
| sense | vish: Last time I checked it wasn't. | 20:42 |
| sense | vish: There are things in place already to do so? | 20:42 |
| sense | vish: I'm running Maverick, I can be your VM if you want. ;) | 20:43 |
| vish | sense: yeah , in Maverick , we have a section called "Technical items" and a lot of items can be hidden , but not sure how they are hidden right now yet.. | 20:43 |
| vish | sense: search , something , it will show only a few items , and the rest are hidden | 20:44 |
| gambs | It provides a link to show technical items at the bottom of the search results field. | 20:44 |
| sense | Yes, but it seems usermode isn't properly hidden by it. | 20:45 |
| sense | Good such a system is in place, though. | 20:45 |
| sense | vish: Do we forward package description bugs? | 20:47 |
| vish | sense: i'm sending them to debian too , but not sure everything will get accepted , thats why i attach debdiff on lp as well | 20:48 |
| sense | ok | 20:48 |
| sense | vish: And it has been you who has been generating those debdiffs? | 20:48 |
| vish | sense: hmm, not sure i understand your question? | 20:49 |
| vish | sense: hehe , you mean am I writing those debdiffs? | 20:49 |
| vish | sense: yup :D | 20:50 |
| sense | Great work! :) | 20:50 |
| vish | sense: well , if I'm asking others to fix , I should fix them as well :) | 20:50 |
| sense | I'll try to live up to your example, although this mere mortal will probably never achieve more than the mere ghost of your greatness | 20:50 |
| sense | Leading by example is a good thing to do. | 20:51 |
| sense | It makes other people do more easily what you tell them to do. | 20:51 |
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