[04:30] <ball> hello redbaritone
[04:30] <redbaritone> Hi there, ball. Know LTSP stuff?
[04:32] <ball> redbaritone: Not yet.
[04:32] <redbaritone> I'm having trouble after removing a package. Now, I can't even log into my account in gnome. (terminal login is okay.)
[04:33] <redbaritone> It may not be LTSP related, but I removed a package which broke something.
[04:33] <ball> Can you reinstall the package from the command line?
[04:34] <ball> "sudo apt-get install {packagename}"?
[04:35] <redbaritone> I'm not sure what I messed up. I did sudo apt-get remove wine*, and I think it must have removed something that I was using.
[04:36] <redbaritone> Wine wasn't working out for me, so I ran the wine utility to remove itself, then removed the packages.
[04:36] <redbaritone> Other than look at /var/log/syslog, I don't even know where to look.
[04:57]  * ball shrugs
[13:30] <emPrJoe> Anyone around yet thismorning?
[13:43] <emPrJoe> I have an older computer that didn't quite make having a cd drive, is there a place they have edubuntu cds?
[13:43] <emPrJoe> All I can find are DVDs
[13:49] <alkisg> emPrJoe: you can either use the ubuntu cd, and then install edubuntu-desktop,
[13:49] <alkisg> or use a usb stick,
[13:49] <alkisg> or install from network, using another computer that boots with the edubuntu cd, if you have another pc available
[13:49] <emPrJoe> yeah I have 2 pcs
[13:49] <emPrJoe> so I would have to have edubuntu on the computer for it to work?
[13:50] <alkisg> No
[13:50] <alkisg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot#line-75
[13:50] <alkisg> You boot the first computer with the live dvd, and then run a script which shares it over the network,
[13:50] <emPrJoe> so is that to install edubuntu or just ubuntu
[13:50] <alkisg> so the other one installs from network
[13:50] <alkisg> That's for any *buntu cd
[13:51] <emPrJoe> so what do I need to do on my old computer
[13:51] <alkisg> Does it support "boot from network"?
[13:51] <emPrJoe> How can you tell?
[13:51] <alkisg> If not, just download a floppy or cd from http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-1.0.0/contrib/rom-o-matic/
[13:51] <alkisg> That just gives a "boot from network" capability to the pc, you only need it once
[13:52] <emPrJoe> ok
[13:52] <emPrJoe> So I download that cd.
[13:52] <emPrJoe> would it be possible to do it using a virtualbox?
[13:52] <alkisg> Yes
[13:53] <emPrJoe> ok
[13:53] <emPrJoe> So mount the edubuntu dvd image
[13:53] <emPrJoe> and boot from network usnig rom-o-madic
[13:53] <emPrJoe> correct?
[13:53] <alkisg> Mount edubuntu dvd an run the netboot script on pc-server, then boot from network using rom-o-matic on pc-client
[13:53] <emPrJoe> ok.
[13:54] <alkisg> Is that vbox on windows?
[13:54] <emPrJoe> Yeah
[13:54] <alkisg> I hope that it's allowed to access ports < 1024
[13:54] <alkisg> (put it in bridged mode)
[13:54] <emPrJoe> yeah
[13:54] <alkisg> If you see any problems with the client not booting, just boot from the dvd live
[13:55] <emPrJoe> it doesn't have a dvd drive though.
[13:55] <alkisg> *the server, without vbox i mean
[13:55] <alkisg> Ah, not even the "server"?
[13:55] <emPrJoe> I do have a ubuntu cd if all else fails
[13:55] <emPrJoe> oh
[13:55] <emPrJoe> the server has a dvd drive
[13:55] <alkisg> Right, instead of vbox, the "normal" way is to boot it with the edubuntu live dvd
[13:55] <alkisg> Much easier and safer this way
[13:55] <emPrJoe> one last question atm, what are the sys req of edubuntu
[13:56] <alkisg> I think you can find them on the site (they're the same as ubuntu)
[13:56] <emPrJoe> oh thanks
[13:56] <alkisg> I guess 256+ RAM. How much ram does your client have?
[13:56] <alkisg> (Probably 512+ recommented)
[13:58] <emPrJoe> lol I need to upgrade it atm only 128 mb <_<
[13:58] <emPrJoe> *put everyone in shock*'
[14:00] <emPrJoe> thats why I was wondering if an old version would work
[14:11] <emPrJoe> alkisg: how mch ram did 9.10 take
[14:11] <alkisg> emPrJoe: with 128 you make a nice thin client
[14:12] <emPrJoe> nice thin client?
[14:12] <alkisg> I.e. you can make it work just fine but when your "server" is also powered on
[14:12] <emPrJoe> so if I shut my "server" off its going to kill the computer?
[14:12] <alkisg> (in other words you can tell the old pc to use the cpu of the new pc)
[14:12] <alkisg> Yes
[14:13] <emPrJoe> lol
[14:13] <alkisg> It's handy in some cases, I don't know if it suits you
[14:13] <emPrJoe> yeah me either
[14:13] <emPrJoe> One last thing
[14:13] <alkisg> E.g. in schools we have 12 old thin clients booting from 1 new server
[14:13] <alkisg> With 128, try lubuntu
[14:13] <emPrJoe> like 8.10 or 8.04 did they use anything like 128
[14:14] <alkisg> Not really
[14:14] <emPrJoe> I know dapperdrake did
[14:14] <emPrJoe> so dapperdrake would be the last version that would run non thinclient
[14:14] <alkisg> Even if you make them show a gnome session, you won't be able to open openoffice, firefox etc
[14:14] <alkisg> Firefox needs about 512 MB for itself for a normal browsing experience
[14:14] <emPrJoe> yeah
[14:14] <emPrJoe> true
[23:04] <Utrinqueparatus> Is there anyone actively developing new educational content for ubuntu?
[23:04] <Utrinqueparatus> specifically preschool