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lucashi00:53
lucasI created a mailing list for a team. it seems people outside the team cannot send mail to it. is that correct? is there a way to change that?00:54
JoshBrown"<Penguin_Guy> Is the bug email interface guide ( https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface ) correct? I tried changing the status using the method in that guide and the text appeared in my post (https://bugs.launchpad.net/codemonkey/+bug/589177/comments/1)."01:23
JoshBrown...01:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 589177 in Code Monkey "Branding (affected: 2, heat: 10)" [Wishlist,In progress]01:23
JoshBrown"<Penguin_Guy> bac: The only thing I could think of was if the guide was wrong or out of date. That's why I was looking for someone who uses the email interface regularly. I'll try some more Google searches and see what I can find. Thanks for the help."01:23
JoshBrown"<bac> Penguin_Guy: ok.  if you would, follow up with me here if you figure it out and i'll update the doc if needed."01:23
JoshBrownWell I've done some testing and it looks like the email commands appear in the original post, and then are executed automatically in a second post. This seems like strange behaviour and should either be reported as a bug or be commented on in the documentation (the documentation indicates that the commands are be executed in the same post, and that the commands themselves do not appear in the post).01:24
wgrantJoshBrown: The email commands do appear, yes.01:27
wgrantIt's not a second post, though -- it's just how the UI displays it.01:27
wgrantThe former is expected behaviour.01:28
wgrantI didn't know about the latter, though,.01:28
wgrantIt's not clear if that's intentional.01:28
JoshBrownwgrant: Oh, I thought the UI displayed it as it was and the email interface batched the emails.01:30
JoshBrownwgrant: Do you know the reason for including the commands?01:30
wgrantJoshBrown: I don't know. The email interface hasn't changed significantly in 5ish years.01:30
wgrantSomewhat before my time.01:31
wgrantBut it was probably modelled on the Debian BTS, which does the same thing.01:32
JoshBrownbug #424849 (Launchpad should batch attachment notification emails) has been quite active recently01:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 424849 in Launchpad Bugs "Launchpad should batch attachment notification emails (affected: 12, heat: 86)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42484901:32
wgrantRight. That's just for attachments, though.01:32
lifelesslucas: non subscribers sending mail to the list address should have their mail moderated01:38
lifelessJoshBrown: please don't do testing on launchpad - use staging.launchpad.net instead.01:39
JoshBrownlifeless: Yeah, just been told01:39
JoshBrownlifeless: He started it :P01:39
davidstraussTooManyConcurrentRequests: The medium 'SmartSSHClientMedium(bzr+ssh://davidstrauss@bazaar.launchpad.net/)' has reached its concurrent request limit. Be sure to finish_writing and finish_reading on the currently open request.01:42
thumperdavidstrauss: what were you doing?01:44
davidstraussthumper, committing01:44
thumperdavidstrauss: you have a checkout?01:45
davidstraussyes01:45
thumperwhy?01:45
thumperhmm....01:45
davidstraussthumper, oh, this was an issue with my ssh key01:46
thumper#bzr might have more answers01:46
davidstraussthumper, but it shouldn't give a backtrace like that01:46
thumperdavidstrauss: it was?01:46
thumperyou are right, it shouldn't give a backtrace like that01:46
JoshBrownCommitting straight to a  remote branch? Usually people commit to a local branch then push the local branch to the remote branch.01:47
thumperJoshBrown: bound branches are a great way to enforce "lock-step" developing, like svn01:47
thumperJoshBrown: often used for trunk branches01:47
davidstraussthumper, we also use them for teams working on feature branches01:48
wgrantBound branches are great for a team working closely on trunk without using branches for small things.01:50
JoshBrownAh.01:54
lifelessor just for a team to do merges of other contributors stuff02:04
lifelessit provides coordination on stuff landing in trunk02:05
lucaslifeless: is it possible to allow non-subscribers to send email without being moderated? or should I ask for a @lists.ubuntu.com list instead so I can configure it?02:08
bdrungi can change the status for merge request that target ubuntu/<package>, but i can't change the status for merge request that target ubuntu/<series>/<package>. is this a bug? if yes, against which project should i file the bug?02:09
wgrantbdrung: Which MPs in particular?02:10
lifelesslucas: I don't know, sorry.02:10
lifelesslucas: but, separately, *all* ubuntu lists are meant to be on l.u.c anyway02:10
bdrungwgrant: for example https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/qemu-kvm/memleak-fix/+merge/2864502:12
lifelessbdrung: it will be because lucid is released, I suspect.02:14
lifelessbdrung: please file a bug02:14
bdrunglifeless: against which project?02:14
lifelesslaunchpad-code02:14
lifelessit would make sense to me that you be able to retarget it to lucid-proposed, or maverick, as appropriate.02:15
wgrantRight, there's a known issue with that. You can't easily propose against lucid-proposed, because it doesn't have a branch until it has its first change.02:16
wgrantI don't think anybody knows the right way to solve this for UDD.02:16
lifelessso, a) file a bug02:17
bdrungwgrant: my problem is, that these merge proposals will be shown in the sponsors list02:17
bdrunglifeless: opened bug #61239102:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 612391 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "Cannot change status for merge proposals that target a released series (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61239102:23
lifelessthanks02:23
bdrunglifeless: np - that's my part to get it fixed02:24
jeremiahSo launchpad is open in the sense that I can run a separate instance, correct?02:25
bdrungyes02:26
jeremiahI'd like to build AMR v7 debs - that should be no problem correct?02:26
jeremiahi.e. I understand there are some particular binary blobs from various vendors, i.e. Freescale et. al.02:26
bdrungisn't an own instance of launchpad an overkill for that?02:27
jeremiahbdrung: Yeah, maybe.02:27
jeremiahThe thing is, we'd be setting it up for the GENIVI consortium02:27
bdrungjeremiah: why not setup pbuilder or sbuild or something similar for that task?02:27
jeremiahbdrung: sbuild might be the way to go02:27
jeremiahThe thing is, debian doesn't build for ARM v702:28
jeremiahAnd I thought that there was some secret sauce in launchpad or Ubuntu that enabled an ARM v7 build02:28
bdrungjelmer: for what do they build?02:28
jeremiahBut I'm happy to be disabused of that notion02:28
lifelessjeremiah: http://www.genivi.org/ ?02:28
jeremiahlifeless: Yes.02:28
lifelessjeremiah: you might want to talk with the lenovo folk02:28
jeremiahbdrung: If you were asking me, Debian builds for ARM v4 and v502:29
lifelessjeremiah: they are putting a bunch of work into launchpad for deployments in the lenovo partners02:29
jeremiahLenovo?02:29
jeremiahHmm, didn't know that.02:29
lifelessbah02:29
lifelessEBRAINFAIL02:29
jeremiah:)02:29
jeremiahENOTENOUGHBACON02:29
lifelesshttp://www.linaro.org/02:29
lifelesslinaro of course02:29
jeremiahAh, yeah, Linaro02:29
wgrantjeremiah: There's nothing magical about Launchpad's build system at all.02:32
wgrantIt's just a hacked version of sbuild.02:32
wgrantWe build for v7 merely because Ubuntu's toolchain does.02:32
wgrantNothing to do with LP.02:32
jeremiahwgrant: Ah, okay. Thanks.02:33
jeremiahYou can tell I am a tiny bit confused.02:33
jeremiahSo, what would I have to do to build ARM v7 sources?02:36
jeremiahI can run sbuild locally, I'm kind of familiar with debian's toolchain02:36
jeremiahSo that shouldn't be an issue02:36
jeremiahI just want to ascertain the delta between debian's ARM v5 toolchain and Ubuntu's ARM v702:37
wgrantI don't know. You'd have to ask the Ubuntu ARM or toolchain people.02:37
jeremiahokay, is there a #ubuntu-arm channel?02:38
wgrantThere is indeed.02:38
jeremiahw00t02:38
nigelbwgrant: poke?02:51
wgrantnigelb: Hi.02:51
nigelbPM?02:51
wgrantSure.02:51
bilalakhtarwgrant: I suppose there is a problem with the diff-generating system again08:33
wgrantbilalakhtar: Howso?08:33
bilalakhtarwgrant: see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubiquity/fix-49282508:34
bilalakhtarwgrant: for some reason, it is scanning the branch from a long time and the merge proposal is also extracting diff from a long time08:34
wgrantbilalakhtar: How long ago did you last push the branch?08:34
bilalakhtarwgrant: 5+ minutes08:35
wgrantThe lack of diff is probably because it hasn't been scanned yet.08:35
bilalakhtarwgrant: but, its scanning since the last 6 minutes or so08:35
wgrantThat's abnormally long, but not yet cause for panic.08:35
* bilalakhtar will ping wgrant if it keeps scanning for another 5 minutes08:36
spmbilalakhtar: probably best not to ping wgrant, he can't actually fix anything directly[1]. :-)  [1] indirectly is a different issue08:37
wgrantRight, I can only whinge at LOSAs. :P08:37
wgrantVery loudly, mind you.08:37
spmand we all have wrant on ignore; so win-win all round :-P08:37
wgrantbilalakhtar: You pushed the branch up normally?08:38
bilalakhtarwgrant: yes08:39
bilalakhtarwgrant: but, the branch is not in the same repo format as the one on which it is stacked08:39
bilalakhtarwgrant: is that a cause of concern?08:41
spmlooks like the merge-proposal job has re-suffered bug 60577208:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 605772 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "merge-proposal-jobs is "hanging", apparently with nothing to do (affected: 1, heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60577208:41
wgrantspm: really? That's not the main problem here.08:41
wgrantbilalakhtar: Yes, that branch is broken.08:41
wgrantbilalakhtar: I'm surprised it even let you push it.08:42
spmwgrant: it's been wheel spinning for about 2.5 hours.  may not be THE problem, but is a problem.08:42
bilalakhtarwgrant: see this paste08:42
spmwgrant: oh dear, now it's working on one of yours. we're doomed.08:42
wgrantspm: Heh.08:43
wgrantbilalakhtar: Which paste?08:43
bilalakhtarwgrant: just a minute, I paste it to pastebin08:43
wgrantIt seems to be 2a stacked on something non-richroot.08:43
wgrantWhich is not going to work.08:43
wgrantspm: Ah, that explains why my MP mail is lagging too, I guess.08:45
spmwgrant: probably08:45
spmhrm. that /ignore thing doesn't seem to be working.... how odd.08:46
wgrantHeh.08:46
bilalakhtarwgrant: spm: the paste is here http://pastebin.com/n0vkTCGg09:10
wgrantIt's probably a bzr bug that it let you do that.09:11
bilalakhtarwgrant: so, what should I do? delete branch and push again?09:18
wgrantbilalakhtar: If you want the branch to be merged, you'll have to recreate it in another format.09:19
bilalakhtarwgrant: so I should push it, standalone this time?09:19
bilalakhtarwgrant: would that do it?09:19
bilalakhtarwgrant: g2g09:20
bilalakhtar.quit09:20
wgrantWell.09:20
wgrantHandy.09:20
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maxois there a way to grab code off launchpad without having to branch it using bazaar?11:57
maxbOnly if the project in question is making release tarballs available11:59
maxomaxb: i'm trying to use bazaar, but where I work the ISA server is blocking it. I get - Unable to handle http code 407: Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service is denied.  ) - which is strange, because I'm using Windows and generally it's set up so all software can get thru12:00
maxbhmm. sounds like a weird evil microsoft issue :-)12:01
maxbWhat's the exact URL you're branching?12:02
maxomaxb: yes it's typical non-standardised evil microsoft stuff :-( was trying to get lp:xibo/1.012:18
maxbmaxo: Right, it's possible the problem is in the xmlrpc request to resolve the lp: url rather than the bzr transfer itself12:18
maxbYou should try manually looking up the full name of the branch in the web UI and bzr branching http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~whatever/xibo/something12:19
maxomaxb: yes I tried with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xibo-maintainers/xibo/halley/files but had the same problem12:20
maxbuh12:20
maxbno /files12:20
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dolmenHi13:18
dolmenI have a login problem: "Your account has been deactivated"13:19
dolmenMy account: <myircnick>@users.sourceforge.net13:20
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dolmenAny launchpad admins there?13:38
dolmenWill I have more chance later? In which timezone are the LaunchPad admins?13:39
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Ursinhahi dolmen13:50
UrsinhaI'll check13:50
* shadeslayer hugs jelmer14:06
shadeslayerjelmer: dude... thanks :)14:06
jelmershadeslayer: you're welcome :-)14:08
shadeslayerjelmer: now we can haz kde neon builds \o/14:08
shadeslayer( in case your a KDE fan :P )14:08
jetienneq. how can i know the eta for a ppa build ?14:14
bigjoolsjetienne: it tells you on the build page14:16
jetiennehttps://launchpad.net/~jerome-etienne/+archive/neoip/+builds <- bigjools is this the 'build page' ?14:17
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maxbjetienne: Now click on an individual build14:20
jetiennei3864 931 jobs (three days) <- ok :) i guess i wont know if my package is good anytime soon  :)14:20
maxbjetienne: Actually, that's the time until the queue empties.14:20
maxbBecause some things in the queue may have different priority scores, its not necessarily a good guide when an individual build will happen14:21
maxbalthough in this case, it seems accurate :-/14:21
jetienneyep 3 boxs to build i386 is not a lot14:21
jetienne414:21
maxbThey've all been stolen for Maverick alpha 3 testing14:22
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Ursinhadolmen, hi, still there?14:28
dolmenyes14:28
dolmenUrsinha: yes14:29
dolmenUrsinha: I discovered I have the capability of ressetting my password. Unfortunately, I don't have access to my e-mail now (blocking proxy). Will have to try later.14:30
Ursinhadolmen, so, here's what you need to do: go to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion and do a request to reactivate the account14:30
Ursinhaah14:30
Ursinhaok, so, you can try that, and if you have no luck, file the question and I'll assign it to an admin14:31
shadeslayerjelmer: err... it failed...14:32
jelmershadeslayer, it hasn't landed yet14:32
shadeslayerohhh14:32
shadeslayerjelmer: when will it? :)14:32
jelmershadeslayer: it should work with a local copy of bzr-svn, but launchpad hasn't rolled out the new release yet14:32
shadeslayerah so when lp rolls out a new release...14:32
jelmeryep, that - that should be next week14:34
shadeslayerawesome14:38
jetienneq. if i uploaded one version into PPA, then deleted this version, can i upload the same version after that ?14:49
bigjoolsjetienne: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/99014:50
jetiennebigjools: so everytime i upload a bogus package i have to artificially bump the version number ? which version format is ok for this ?14:51
shadeslayerjelmer: no14:51
shadeslayererr14:51
MichealHI anyone having issues with Launchpad + emails?14:51
shadeslayerbad tab complete14:51
MichealHLanchpad "sent" me a email and I havent gotten it14:52
shadeslayerjetienne: ok usually : ~distro1~ppa114:52
shadeslayerjetienne: like ~lucid1~ppa114:52
bigjoolsjetienne: PPAs are not a build testing service, so I hope you're not having to upload many versions.  Ideally you will use pbuilder to test your package locally first.14:52
shadeslayeror just ~ppa114:52
jetiennebigjools: and it does14:52
jetienneshadeslayer: ok thanks14:52
bigjoolsgreat14:52
shadeslayerAND what bigjools said :)14:52
shadeslayerjetienne: maybe its because of pkgbinarymangler14:53
jetienneshadeslayer: well no other possibility to know if it is accepted and built, than to upload it14:53
shadeslayerbut we can only ascertain that after looking at build log14:53
MichealHLaunchpad was sending me email about verifying my PGP key but I havent had that email14:54
MichealHCan anyone aswer my question?14:56
MichealHItwas a problem with my address... sorry14:58
jcastroI think I broke lp.15:10
jcastroI am trying to add a group to the ubuntu-beta-font-testing ppa15:10
* bigjools hides15:11
jcastrooh wait, nm, it took the change15:11
jcastroit was just angry15:11
senseCould someone merge the account 'sense-ubuntu' with 'sense' manually for me? I've been trying to do it myself for several weeks now and it keeps timing out. It prevents me from associating my @ubuntu.com address with my main account.15:11
coffeedudederyck, ping.15:18
michaelforrest1Does launchpad OpenID support returning a user's email address to the authenticating service?15:23
maxbIIRC, it does, but only to a list of sites which is administratively configured in the canonical login service15:26
senseAnother question: is the refusal of the WordPress plugin 'OpenID' (and that of many other websites) to recognise Launchpad as a valid OpenID provider a bug in those websites and plugins, or an error on Launchpad's side?15:26
maxbUh, can you give any more info on that?15:29
michaelforrest1maxb: thanks15:29
michaelforrest1what are the chances of getting a hash of the email out I wonder15:29
maxbA hash?15:29
michaelforrest1I just wanna show gravatars :)15:29
deryck*sigh* my network connection hates me today.15:29
deryckhi coffeedude.  What's up?15:29
maxbWhilst we're talking about OpenID... anyone around who can explain what the exact relationship betweek login.launchpad.net and login.ubuntu.com is?15:30
senseI think Launchpad is consuming the Ubuntu SSO.15:31
michaelforrest1Yeah I think it's more of a branding thing15:32
michaelforrest1we did a bit of user testing of Ubuntu One in the design team and launchpad was a bit unexpected when users were expecting Ubuntu stuff15:33
beunomaxb, they share the same DB15:33
senseI had to change my email address in the Ubuntu SSO before it was changed in Launchpad, even though I had changed my main contact email address there beforehand.15:33
falehi15:52
faleI would like to learn more about private PPAs, is there a webpage with all the info?15:53
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pmatulisshouldn't the owner (reporter) be able to change bug status from 'won't fix' to something else?16:03
micahgpmatulis: no16:09
micahgpmatulis: just bug supervisors AFAIK16:10
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LaneyIs it possible for mailing lists to not require subscription?17:33
Laneyor can certain addresses be whitelisted?17:33
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jetienneq. when i upload a source package with "Architecture: all", it is queued in i386 building.... isnt "all" meaning independant from arch ?17:49
bigjoolsjetienne: it has to build on something, and we use i386 to build those17:50
jetiennebigjools: ok17:51
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Laneyno joy? Is LP unsuitable for such open mailing lists?18:02
LaneyHere we're after a list to set as maintainer for packages in Debian18:03
Laneyso the Debian archive/BTS/… has to be able to send it mail18:03
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jetiennewhen "maverick RELEASE" build gonna be over ?18:50
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shadeslayerjetienne: well.. we just uploaded the whole of KDE18:53
shadeslayerso its going to be a while18:53
jetienneshadeslayer: it was 3days this afternoon, it is 5days now18:53
shadeslayerjetienne: oh thats the PPA18:53
shadeslayerafter alpha 3 some of the builders might be transfered to ppa's18:54
shadeslayer*might*18:54
jetienneshadeslayer: whena alpha3 is over ?18:54
shadeslayerwhen it will be released?18:54
jetienneshadeslayer: you got no schedule ?18:55
shadeslayerjetienne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule18:55
shadeslayeraugust 5th18:55
jetienneshadeslayer: thanks18:55
shadeslayerso after that :P18:55
shadeslayerright now im getting spammed by kde build failiures :P18:56
jetienne:)18:56
[Dmitry]hello19:15
[Dmitry]How long does the application for removal of packages from the repository?19:16
[Dmitry]I applied, but packages are still there. I need urgently to remove them19:17
[Dmitry]For the package name here and there has not changed and build the beta version. In the end, everyone broke everything when  upgrade19:18
[Dmitry]...19:18
maxb[Dmitry]: The packages should be removed from the indices, so that APT will not be aware of them, in ~20 minutes or so. They will not disappear from disk promptly20:08
sshaware the 32bit build machines down?20:35
sshawall my 32bit builds are set to build in 4 days20:36
[Dmitry]:)20:36
sshaw64bit builds seem to be working20:36
beunosshaw, not down, just super busy20:39
sshawoh, I was really hoping it was down :(20:39
sshawthat would been the queue wasn't sooo long ;)20:39
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jacobthanks to whoever just added more i386 ppa builders :D21:32
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micahg\o/ we have the PPA builders back21:33
[Dmitry]wat?21:33
[Dmitry]!?21:33
jacob[Dmitry]: https://edge.launchpad.net/builders21:33
jacobthere are 20 i386 now instead of 721:33
[Dmitry]o_O21:34
[Dmitry]Hooray!21:34
[Dmitry]When you said that it would be more builders, I thought well, for 2 or 3. But 20. Thank21:35
geserhopefully they stay long enough to help with the queue before they vanish again because the machine is needed for something else21:37
jacobi'd imagine they'd be here until the queue is down quite a bit, it was previously at a 5 day wait earlier today21:39
[Dmitry]geser: You want to say that this is not always be as many machines?21:39
jacobthere are more amd64 builders too, 1321:39
jacob[Dmitry]: I've noticed the extra builders are usually brought online when the queue is backed up21:40
geserthe machines get rescheduled for other tasks as needed, apparently they are free currently for PPA builds21:40
james_wjacob: post hoc ergo propter hoc :-)21:42
jacobjames_w: just making guesses :P21:42
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ari-tczewhow can I import git to bzr?22:46
ari-tczewcreate a mirror22:46
wgrantari-tczew: Which project?22:49
ari-tczewwgrant: kadu22:49
wgrantari-tczew: https://edge.launchpad.net/kadu/+new-import22:49
ari-tczewwgrant: ok, I choose Git field. What adress it require? git:// or http:// ?22:51
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wgrantari-tczew: I'd use the former. But I think the latter works.22:52
ari-tczewwgrant: former?22:52
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wgrantari-tczew: Try the git:// URL.22:52
jelmerhttp URLs generally work but are significantly slower22:53
jelmeralso, because of the differences between web servers and the fact they're less widely used they have more issues.22:53
ari-tczewwgrant: This foreign branch URL is already specified for the imported branch ~vcs-imports/kadu/master.22:55
ari-tczewwgrant: look at https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/kadu/master22:55
wgrant"Has submodules which bzr-git and bzr do not currently support."22:56
ari-tczew:/22:57
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