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tenach | Is xfce able to remember window locations like GNOME? It seems to not by default, and it's getting rather frustrating to have every window start aligned to the bottom left corner of my screen. | 02:48 |
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sajith | sajithkd | 11:35 |
sajith | logout | 11:36 |
sajith | exit | 11:36 |
sajith | quit | 11:37 |
paultag_ | Morning, all | 12:48 |
JoeMaverickSett | yo! morning paultag_ | 12:49 |
paultag_ | morning JoeMaverickSett, sup | 12:52 |
JoeMaverickSett | paultag_, i'm cool! how do you do? | 12:52 |
paultag_ | JoeMaverickSett: sheeeeet, pimp'n ain't shitt today my brotha | 12:54 |
JoeMaverickSett | paultag_, =D | 12:54 |
paultag_ | :) | 12:54 |
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drubin | paultag: getto? | 13:29 |
paultag | drubin: ghetto | 13:31 |
paultag | drubin: and fsck() yes | 13:31 |
drubin | lolz | 13:31 |
drubin | what ever floats your boat | 13:31 |
paultag | :P | 13:34 |
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DarkNemesis | anyone seen bodhi? | 15:03 |
DarkNemesis | !seen bodhi | 15:04 |
ubot2 | I have no seen command | 15:04 |
DarkNemesis | party pooper | 15:06 |
DarkNemesis | @ubot2 | 15:06 |
DarkNemesis | anyone here? | 15:08 |
shpongle | DarkNemesis, hey there | 15:09 |
DarkNemesis | hi | 15:09 |
shpongle | DarkNemesis, what's bodhi? | 15:09 |
DarkNemesis | bodhi.zazen | 15:09 |
DarkNemesis | ie they used t be here i think | 15:09 |
uRock | I haven't seen him logged in lately, you may want to try PMing on ubuntuforums.org | 15:10 |
DarkNemesis | i need to get a bit of help | 15:11 |
DarkNemesis | on the forums ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671604 | 15:12 |
DarkNemesis | it gives a guide to secure ff | 15:12 |
DarkNemesis | i am doing this | 15:12 |
DarkNemesis | but | 15:14 |
DarkNemesis | i have issues | 15:14 |
DarkNemesis | not me personally | 15:15 |
DarkNemesis | the DansGaurdian thing | 15:15 |
DarkNemesis | http://paste.ubuntu.com/472211 | 15:16 |
DarkNemesis | thats the error shpongle | 15:16 |
uRock | If you post in the thread, then he may respond to it. Or one of the other security brainiacs. | 15:21 |
DarkNemesis | i need to make it ULTRA secure as there are folk who want to hem me | 15:22 |
DarkNemesis | where is this server based? | 15:23 |
* uRock scratches head, "I don't know." | 15:27 | |
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paultag | hey drubin | 16:40 |
Silver_Fox_ | Hello | 16:43 |
paultag | hey Silver_Fox_ | 16:45 |
paultag | Silver_Fox_: just updated more on my site | 16:45 |
Silver_Fox_ | Which version paultag ? | 16:46 |
Silver_Fox_ | Mobile or Normal ? | 16:46 |
Silver_Fox_ | paultag, Pretty good read -http://tinyurl.com/34s9kes | 16:47 |
paultag | Silver_Fox_: pault.ag | 16:47 |
Silver_Fox_ | Though I still prefer smashing mag for news | 16:47 |
paultag | Silver_Fox_: yup, good stuff | 16:48 |
paultag | Silver_Fox_: http://pault.ag/ <-- added "feed" | 16:48 |
Silver_Fox_ | *sigh.. so reliant on javascript.... | 16:48 |
paultag | suck it :P | 16:48 |
Silver_Fox_ | Apparently I need to allow it to navigate | 16:48 |
paultag | JS is still the only way to go right now | 16:48 |
Silver_Fox_ | ;) | 16:49 |
paultag | Yeah, you do | 16:49 |
Silver_Fox_ | I know I do | 16:49 |
paultag | it's 2010 | 16:49 |
paultag | let's just use it already | 16:49 |
Silver_Fox_ | I shall allow some of it | 16:49 |
Silver_Fox_ | k | 16:49 |
Silver_Fox_ | Oh right, jquery | 16:50 |
Silver_Fox_ | =) | 16:50 |
Silver_Fox_ | Nice work | 16:50 |
Silver_Fox_ | I like it, very clean | 16:50 |
paultag | danke | 16:50 |
Silver_Fox_ | Form and function perfectly married | 16:50 |
paultag | thanks :3 | 16:51 |
paultag | And, on that note, I shall go to starbucks for lunch | 16:51 |
paultag | I'll bbl | 16:51 |
paultag | always said that in my head as bibbel | 16:52 |
paultag | I'll bibbel | 16:52 |
* paultag whoosh | 16:52 | |
Silver_Fox_ | Goodbye | 16:53 |
duanedesign | Silver_Fox_: howdy. | 17:01 |
Silver_Fox_ | Hello duanedesign | 17:02 |
Silver_Fox_ | =) | 17:02 |
duanedesign | anything exciting going on with you? | 17:02 |
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drubin | paultag: I agree with Silver_Fox_ there | 17:38 |
Silver_Fox_ | I love it when people agree with me ;) | 17:38 |
Silver_Fox_ | And hey drubin | 17:38 |
Silver_Fox_ | =) | 17:38 |
hobgoblin | drubin :) | 17:39 |
drubin | Silver_Fox_: Happens so rarely>? | 17:39 |
* drubin is bouncing around before he needs to goout | 17:39 | |
Silver_Fox_ | Most of the time infact, I tend to look at things differently i guess | 17:39 |
drubin | adds paul.ag to his javascript allow list | 17:39 |
Silver_Fox_ | Which can be useful for starting discussions | 17:39 |
Silver_Fox_ | drubin, Are you like me , in that js is blocked everywhere by default? | 17:40 |
drubin | Yes | 17:41 |
drubin | damn straight. | 17:41 |
Silver_Fox_ | WIN | 17:41 |
drubin | and flash, and java | 17:41 |
Silver_Fox_ | +1 | 17:41 |
Silver_Fox_ | Well flash is going anyway so one less thing to block | 17:41 |
abhijit | hello | 17:42 |
abhijit | anyone can help in this issue? | 17:42 |
abhijit | after removing kde i followed istruction here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome then i started to get pgadmin3 and coldeltie relocation error. all details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 | 17:42 |
abhijit | HELP | 17:43 |
IAmNotThatGuy | abhijit: you can swith among KDE and GNOME. you know that? | 17:44 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, yes. you first visit my issue on forum so you can know more. | 17:44 |
abhijit | bin1010, can you help me? | 17:47 |
abhijit | not its 3rd day. and nu one helps me! :'( | 17:48 |
IAmNotThatGuy | abhijit: I cant really find a solution as I had never done anything like that before. | 17:48 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, :( | 17:49 |
IAmNotThatGuy | I have KDE too but I use the switcher during the login session | 17:49 |
IAmNotThatGuy | Inever tried removing it | 17:49 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, ok | 17:49 |
IAmNotThatGuy | I never* | 17:49 |
abhijit | hmm | 17:49 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, but no one helps me! :'( | 17:49 |
bihari | well i wants to connect my SAMSUNG set with my ubuntu | 17:50 |
IAmNotThatGuy | you googled about this problem? | 17:50 |
IAmNotThatGuy | bihari: your samsung mobile? | 17:50 |
bihari | SGH-B520 | 17:51 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, yes. no success. | 17:51 |
bihari | The set name is SAMSUNG SGH-B520 | 17:51 |
IAmNotThatGuy | bihari: try wammu | 17:51 |
IAmNotThatGuy | abhijit: I think you have to recover it | 17:52 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, how? | 17:52 |
abhijit | hello duanedesign | 17:53 |
IAmNotThatGuy | idk whether you can do it or not. Is there anything you backed up? | 17:54 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, yah i can take backup. | 17:55 |
IAmNotThatGuy | abhijit: you read this?? "It's possible that the commands might remove some other packages you have since added to the default and want to keep. If that's the case, keep track of which packages those are and reinstall them. Your settings should still be there. " | 17:55 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, i installed all pacackages. i reversed that command. but no success. | 17:55 |
IAmNotThatGuy | aww :( | 17:55 |
IAmNotThatGuy | phillw: you are there?? | 17:56 |
paultag | drubin: thanks :) | 17:58 |
drubin | You owe me | 17:59 |
paultag | drubin: What for this time? | 17:59 |
paultag | fixin my crap software? | 17:59 |
drubin | Evening you have to enable Javascript on a website a Fairy looses its wings | 17:59 |
IAmNotThatGuy | paultag: you read what abhijit told? | 17:59 |
paultag | drubin: haha awww | 17:59 |
drubin | every* | 17:59 |
paultag | IAmNotThatGuy: where? | 17:59 |
IAmNotThatGuy | above your head :/ | 18:00 |
paultag | drubin: Well HTML5 is not around just yet | 18:00 |
IAmNotThatGuy | in this channel paultag | 18:00 |
abhijit | paultag, after removing kde i followed istruction here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome then i started to get pgadmin3 and coldeltie relocation error. all details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 | 18:00 |
paultag | drubin: and I love AJAX so much | 18:00 |
IAmNotThatGuy | abhijit: he can scroll up :P | 18:00 |
paultag | Cool | 18:01 |
paultag | sec | 18:01 |
abhijit | cool? | 18:01 |
abhijit | :'( | 18:01 |
abhijit | IAmNotThatGuy, :D | 18:01 |
IAmNotThatGuy | lol | 18:02 |
DarkNemesis | hi, i am tryig to crack the password for the wikileaks file "insurance .aes256" are there tools avaiabe to pool all the words from wikileaks.org to use those words as brute force attacks? | 18:02 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: thought about that, and there are 2 problems | 18:03 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: 1) That's technically not legal, and you won't get help here | 18:03 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: 2) It's very secure. You won't brute force that without MASSIVE computing power | 18:03 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: People have clusters that can hardly decrypt that level of security | 18:03 |
paultag | abhijit: sec. I'm still thinking | 18:04 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: it's out there so if the head of wikileaks is killed or something they give out the password | 18:04 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: keep the file around, the password will get released soon, I think | 18:04 |
abhijit | paultag, okki | 18:04 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: plus, if you decrypt it, the US goverment would most likely shoot you | 18:05 |
DarkNemesis | paultag wel. i'm safe | 18:05 |
IAmNotThatGuy | lol | 18:05 |
DarkNemesis | i'm not in emeria | 18:05 |
DarkNemesis | emerica | 18:05 |
abhijit | imerica | 18:05 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: Neither was Che | 18:05 |
DarkNemesis | [so called cus eminem lives there] | 18:05 |
DarkNemesis | or should that be ob-erica as obama is dictaror there | 18:06 |
DarkNemesis | paultag i stand no chance breaking it | 18:06 |
DarkNemesis | i just want to try | 18:06 |
DarkNemesis | someone said it was impossible so i have to try | 18:07 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: I mean, you can try, but you won't get help here. The UK is as bad as the USA | 18:07 |
DarkNemesis | paultag, do you not not have any idea where i might ask? | 18:08 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: I know you are on a Telewst ISP, and they are UK | 18:08 |
DarkNemesis | nope | 18:08 |
DarkNemesis | wrong | 18:09 |
paultag | It's not actually | 18:09 |
paultag | ~sara@cpc5-sgyl30-2-0-cust61.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com | 18:09 |
DarkNemesis | lol ahh i love my distributed netwrk | 18:09 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: Ah, so you're proxy'ing? | 18:09 |
DarkNemesis | vpn | 18:09 |
paultag | Using a proxy is against network guidelines DarkNemesis | 18:09 |
DarkNemesis | nope not if you have sasl | 18:09 |
paultag | that's not true | 18:10 |
* abhijit is watching and waiting.................... | 18:10 | |
paultag | the only exception is the EFF's Tor | 18:10 |
drubin | paultag: you would love rails. | 18:10 |
DarkNemesis | yup... i have vpn to a server | 18:10 |
drubin | just putting it out there | 18:10 |
paultag | drubin: I do love rails | 18:10 |
drubin | paultag: \o/ | 18:10 |
DarkNemesis | and on the server i have tor | 18:10 |
drubin | got a cool project I want to work on. | 18:11 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: neither here nore there | 18:11 |
DarkNemesis | clever huh? | 18:11 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: not really | 18:11 |
DarkNemesis | lol | 18:11 |
DarkNemesis | i'm pulling your leg | 18:11 |
DarkNemesis | sorry | 18:11 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: now i'm going to have to ask you try and get help cracking elsewhere | 18:12 |
paultag | DarkNemesis: try a blackhat fourms. Won't get much help around here | 18:12 |
paultag | abhijit: I'm not sure, this is quite the odd issue | 18:12 |
paultag | abhijit: sec. | 18:12 |
DarkNemesis | mmk | 18:13 |
abhijit | paultag, ok | 18:13 |
paultag | abhijit: I'm at a lost. That's a very odd error, and I'm not sure. It looks like you removed one of the libs that another lib depended on, and it did not figure it out ( not in the dependecies ) | 18:14 |
paultag | abhijit: You might have to go through and install / remove each one of the things you removed before, and report it to Debian | 18:14 |
abhijit | paultag, omg! then i prefer fresh reinstall!!! :D | 18:14 |
paultag | abhijit: haha yes, but we need the bug report :) | 18:21 |
abhijit | paultag, i submitted bug on luanchpad | 18:22 |
morri | hi . | 18:50 |
morri | just now before i restarted thelaptop something stranghe happened# | 18:51 |
psychicist__ | hi | 18:51 |
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morri | http://paste.ubuntu.com/472292/ | 18:53 |
morri | just one minute to another it happened and after reboot it was fine again.. | 18:54 |
psychicist__ | I'll have a look at it now | 18:59 |
psychicist__ | this looks like a very serious kernel bug | 19:00 |
psychicist__ | related to the usb subsystem | 19:01 |
abhijit | paultag, after removing kde i followed istruction here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome then i started to get pgadmin3 and coldeltie relocation error. all details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391 | 19:01 |
abhijit | paultag, sorry it was not for you | 19:02 |
paultag | no worries | 19:02 |
psychicist__ | morri, maybe you can file a bug for it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu | 19:06 |
morri | ok I'll do that | 19:11 |
RealEyes | i have security questions | 19:52 |
RealEyes | is there any easy way to secure ubuntu? | 19:53 |
pedro3005 | secure in what way? | 19:54 |
RealEyes | from hackers/crackers? | 19:55 |
pedro3005 | a server or desktop? | 19:56 |
RealEyes | desktop | 19:56 |
RealEyes | The program 'root' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 19:57 |
RealEyes | sudo apt-get install root-system-bin | 19:57 |
RealEyes | Is this good or bad? | 19:57 |
pedro3005 | how did you get that message? | 19:57 |
RealEyes | i typed in 'root' lol | 19:57 |
zkriesse | RealEyes: where | 19:57 |
zkriesse | In terminal? | 19:57 |
RealEyes | yes | 19:57 |
RealEyes | i want to learn learn learn | 19:58 |
IdleOne | !noroot | 19:58 |
ubot2 | We do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information. | 19:58 |
IdleOne | !root | 19:58 |
ubot2 | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 19:58 |
RealEyes | so ... having no root is a good thing? :/ | 19:58 |
IdleOne | RealEyes: you don't need root. Lesson 1 complete. | 19:58 |
paultag | +1 IdleOne | 19:59 |
IdleOne | RealEyes: yes, Ubuntu locks the root account | 19:59 |
RealEyes | Lesson 2? :D | 19:59 |
paultag | RealEyes: yes, for sure, you say you want to secure your install, don't give access to everything down to the kernel level by enabling root | 19:59 |
IdleOne | you don't need it, when you do need root privs you issue commands with sudo | 19:59 |
paultag | RealEyes: re-learn lesson #1 after messing up :) | 19:59 |
paultag | +1 IdleOne | 19:59 |
IdleOne | RealEyes: That was lesson two. | 20:00 |
RealEyes | #? :D | 20:00 |
IdleOne | the rest will come in time :) | 20:00 |
RealEyes | 3*? :D | 20:00 |
zkriesse | RealEyes: what sudo does is grant you a temporary pass to be GOD on the system | 20:00 |
RealEyes | i realize. | 20:00 |
RealEyes | do i need to configure sudo? | 20:00 |
paultag | rather then being god :P | 20:00 |
paultag | RealEyes: it should be enabled for users in the @admin group | 20:00 |
RealEyes | http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/man/sudoers.html ? | 20:00 |
zkriesse | Hello imgarysmith | 20:00 |
IdleOne | RealEyes: no need to configure sudo | 20:00 |
paultag | %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL | 20:00 |
paultag | yeah, it's set up for admin group by default | 20:01 |
IdleOne | RealEyes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 20:01 |
imgarysmith | ubuntu-artwork | 20:01 |
imgarysmith | heya zkriesse | 20:01 |
IdleOne | paultag: if I had a nickel for every time someone asked about root.... | 20:02 |
* zkriesse gives paultag some tea... Sugar? | 20:02 | |
zkriesse | IdleOne: +1 | 20:02 |
paultag | IdleOne: darn skippy | 20:02 |
paultag | zkriesse: quite alright, no need to ruin good tea | 20:03 |
RealEyes | I'm having tea :S | 20:03 |
RealEyes | GREEN. | 20:03 |
zkriesse | lmao | 20:03 |
zkriesse | Green tea is the bomb! | 20:03 |
imgarysmith | eww tea | 20:04 |
zkriesse | imgarysmith: tea is better than coffee | 20:04 |
imgarysmith | paultag theres no sure thing as good tea | 20:04 |
imgarysmith | zkriesse coffee rules | 20:04 |
RealEyes | where did you guys learn more about the bash shell? | 20:05 |
IdleOne | tea may be better for you but I believe that is exactly what makes coffee better | 20:05 |
zkriesse | !bash | 20:05 |
IdleOne | !bash | 20:05 |
ubot2 | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 20:05 |
zkriesse | haha IdleOne gotcha | 20:05 |
IdleOne | !cli | 20:05 |
ubot2 | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro | 20:05 |
imgarysmith | can i ask a question? | 20:06 |
zkriesse | !ask | 20:06 |
ubot2 | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 20:06 |
IdleOne | imgarysmith: only 1 | 20:06 |
IdleOne | :) | 20:06 |
zkriesse | lol | 20:06 |
imgarysmith | idleone then i have already used it up :( | 20:06 |
zkriesse | lol | 20:06 |
IdleOne | indeed | 20:06 |
zkriesse | imgarysmith: Ask away..don't listen to IdleOne he's cranky | 20:06 |
* zkriesse pokes IdleOne | 20:06 | |
imgarysmith | is there a place to download the default ubuntu theme so i can edit it | 20:06 |
IdleOne | You can put in a request with the IRCC and see if they will allow another | 20:07 |
zkriesse | !theme | 20:07 |
ubot2 | Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 20:07 |
IdleOne | imgarysmith: packages.ubuntu.com will have the source | 20:07 |
IdleOne | not sure what the name is though | 20:07 |
imgarysmith | i want to make my own theme but i want to keep the default as a basis | 20:08 |
RealEyes | how quaint | 20:09 |
imgarysmith | cant find it in packages | 20:10 |
zkriesse | hello satamusic | 20:21 |
morri | i ahve got a nice theme looks a bit like basic windows 95 | 20:29 |
morri | was in the default package in the options i think | 20:30 |
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kohlers | hello, got no more youtube playback in totem player. anyone may help ? | 20:51 |
Silver_Fox_ | Hello | 20:56 |
kohlers | hello | 21:01 |
satamusic | hello zkriesse | 21:01 |
kohlers | so there's nobody here who could help? | 21:05 |
IdleOne | kohlers: without more info on what you may have changed (updates,apps installed) it will be hard to help | 21:06 |
Silver_Fox_ | kohlers, What is the query? | 21:07 |
satamusic | gotta go- | 21:15 |
kohlers | "there has been an error" | 21:21 |
Silver_Fox_ | Where, when, how did you get that error? | 21:21 |
kohlers | within totem i tried to playback a video from youtube | 21:23 |
kohlers | the search results display an image allright but to have the video playback "i lag permission" | 21:24 |
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kohlers | it's a german version so i don't know if you can handle the output... | 21:31 |
kohlers | Der Ort konnte nicht geöffnet werden; möglicherweise besitzen Sie nicht die notwendigen Zugriffsrechte, um die Datei zu öffnen. | 21:31 |
kohlers | that's what it says...sorry i come here but the german channel is a bit busy right now... | 21:32 |
kohlers | google gave me this: Bug 430159 | 21:35 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 430159 in totem (Ubuntu) "when I try to watch youtube, I don't have the rights to do that?? (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430159 | 21:36 |
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kohlers | :) so how do i get that fix done? just perform an update ? (am i really THAT retarded?) | 21:41 |
IdleOne | kohlers: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 21:43 |
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kohlers | okay...thx for first...I got to check out some more things here....cya | 21:53 |
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* Silver_Fox_ is away: I am still watching | 22:40 | |
* Silver_Fox_ is back (gone 00:32:50) | 23:12 | |
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