[10:18] <vish> stlsaint: hmm , pong..
[10:19] <vish> stlsaint: usually just leave a message.. after your pings , when i was back you werent there.
[17:18] <vish> kamusin: gnome Bug 590281 must have been a blast from the past ;) nearly one yr after you reported :)
[17:18] <ubot2> Gnome bug 590281 in Backgrounds Emblems and Themes "[wishlist]Choosing emblems in Nautilus is too complex" [Normal,Resolved: obsolete] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590281
[17:19] <kamusin> hehe true..
[17:21] <kamusin> vish, original reporter is a old fashion guy I guess :P
[17:22] <vish> kamusin: i was surprised how you found the lp bug .. i would have forgotten i had forwarded the bug :D
[17:23] <kamusin> was a nice trick that pedro told me a few days ago
[17:24] <vish> kamusin: yeah , that would have helped ;)
[17:40] <hggdh> folks, eeeBotu will be offline for the next 5 minutes due to a reboot after security updates
[17:43] <hggdh> eeeBotu has now resumed its standard programming. Thank you for your patience.
[17:44]  * charlie-tca counts minutes different than that
[17:45] <hggdh> heh. The system boots faster than I expect ;-)
[17:46] <charlie-tca> and if you said 3 minutes, it probably would have taken 10 :-)
[17:47] <hggdh> yeah. I *did* say something like that one, and it took 20 minutes to recover the system :-)
[17:47] <nigelb> pedro is still not back?
[17:48] <hggdh> nigelb: last week he was at Guadec, don't remember about this week (but I think there was anotehr conference, or whatever
[17:49] <nigelb> hggdh: debconf?
[17:49] <hggdh> nigelb: might be, debconf is going on right now in NY
[17:49] <nigelb> hggdh: anyway, we were planning on revealing that bug squad secet to you this week.  I guess we'll do that next week.
[17:49] <hggdh> grrrr
[17:49] <nigelb> LOL
[17:50] <hggdh> :-)
[17:50]  * hggdh will now reboot on the Brand New Maverick Kernel. Perhaps it will also be a fast reboot...
[19:32] <stanley_robertso> ping
[19:33] <micahg> !ping stanley_robertso
[19:33] <ubot2> micahg: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:33] <micahg> hmm
[19:33] <yofel> !ping | stanley_robertso
[19:33] <ubot2> stanley_robertso: pong
[19:34] <hggdh> heh. The intrincacies of a bot...
[19:48] <njin> Hello everybody. Wich is the name of the app that shutdown the pc ? Thanks
[19:49] <micahg> njin: upstart?
[19:51] <njin> micahg: i don't know, i've a bug with a pc not completely shutdown, remain on with the thinkpad write
[19:51] <micahg> njin: upstart sounds like a good place then
[19:52] <njin> macahg: thanks, have you notice about pedro_
[19:54] <njin> micahg: thanks, have you notice about pedro_
[19:54] <micahg> njin: no
[19:54] <kamusin> maybe is related to your acpi support (in your mobo) njin
[19:55] <njin> ah, then i attach var/log/syslog - dmesg - kern.log and apport-collect upstart
[19:57] <njin> micahg: is more than 1 week that i sand mail without reply.
[19:57] <njin> *mails
[20:01] <charlie-tca> njin: sometimes hitting those conferences makes it more difficult to respond.
[20:03] <njin> ah, i was worried because i don't know what he's doing, now is clear, thanks charlie-tca
[20:40] <sense> simar: Hello! Long time since I last heard form you. How have you been? Still enthusiastically triaging bugs?
[20:41] <simar> sense: ya.
[20:41] <simar> sense: I'm now focusing more on FTBFS
[20:42] <simar> sense I have fixed three yesterday ..
[20:42] <sense> simar: Ah, you've found a different kind of bugs you're interested in?
[20:42] <sense> simar: Bug fixing! Even better!
[20:42] <simar> sense: ya bt life is not easy there. Now i have been trying since evening but is stuck somewhere .:((
[20:43] <simar> sense: you change your IRC name. My reflexes dinn't like it. But still good :))
[20:43] <sense> ;)
[20:44] <sense> simar: You must be learning tons right now. It takes some perseverance and searching when starting, but in the end you'll know a lot more about the way the system works, and will have contributed some important things to Ubuntu!
[20:44] <simar> sense: ya, it was only because of your encouragement. :)
[20:45] <sense> simar: Thanks!
[20:46] <sense> simar: We'll see where you end up, but don't feel obliged to stick to bug triaging if you like fixing FTBSes better. But due to the nature of those bugs experience with bug triaging might come in handy.
[20:46] <sense> simar: You might want to try to get in Bug Control still, so you can at least set all statuses when working on bug fixes.
[20:47] <simar> sense: I have written TouchpadDebugging. Now I want to take another package probably on your recommendation, that you are or planning to adopt .. I hope that way I will learn better from this mentorship program.
[20:48] <sense> simar: Great to see you're contributing to the documentation. That is very important to get right, because it is the only way we can keep knowledge in the community when people leave.
[20:48] <simar> sense: I tried to put everything I know of ..
[20:49] <sense> good
[20:49] <sense> Other people will add more informationt o it.
[20:49] <sense> simar: You did link to the page from <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures> and added it to the categories CategoryBugSquad and CategoryDebugging?
[20:50] <sense> That way you can make sure that other people will find your work.\
[20:50] <simar> sense: I will keep on triaging and even fixing (sometime) touchpad bugs but at this time I think to get most of this mentorship program, I think I need to get another package..
[20:50] <simar> sense: ya i did that .. :)
[20:51] <sense> good
[20:51] <simar> sense: Now I plan to add more documentation on one example to fix FTBFS ..
[20:51] <sense> simar: It would be awesome if you could do that.
[20:51] <simar> sense: I hope to ..
[20:53] <simar> sense:  I think to get in bug control I need to do more triaging, with some other package (an easy one). So I can focus more on packaging and triaging and not on complex things...
[20:54] <simar> sense: Do my application has enough experience to get into bug control
[20:57] <sense> simar: I see a decent list of bugs related to you, so you could well have enough experience. Do you think you have at least five bugs that would serve as good examples of you triaging a bug? That is what you need, amongst some other details, to send to the Bug Control mailing list.
[21:01] <simar> sense: I hope so. But touchpad bugs were really complex, I have not set the status of even a single bug as triaged till now. Only confirmed, imcomplete etc .. :(( .  I know thats a part of triaging but still . That the primary reason of adopting another package.  If you think I can apply for bug control, then I'm glad to do that .. :)
[21:03] <sense> simar: If you found the touchpad bugs very hard you might want to triage a few more bugs in other (easier) packages to get some more examples when applying, just to be sure.
[21:09] <simar> sense: If examples don't require triage status set, then I believe I have decent good examples for the application. I think, I should apply and then adopt another package(easy one), where I will have more rights to set importance and triaging again. I hope I will do more triaging even after getting into bug control. Triaging experience will never stop. In the last as my mentor its your decision and also please tell a appropriate package that hav
[21:09] <simar> e enough people(you too, if possible), so I may not feel lonely there :P
[21:10] <sense> simar: You might want to take a look at the desktop packages, since that is more doable and less lonely than the touchpad area, but also very important.
[21:11] <sense> simar: I think you have proven that you are most certainly capable, so I will support your application.
[21:11] <sense> simar: Although you do need three people supporting your application. ;)
[21:12] <simar> sense: thanks for your support, should I ask my other friends for that, I mean whats the culture? I have met many people especially in #ubuntu-moto . I think they will support my app too, :)
[21:13] <sense> simar: It won't be such a big deal as getting Ubuntu Membership. You mail your application to the Ubuntu Bug Control mailing list and people respond to it.
[21:13] <sense> simar: I'm afraid only Ubuntu Bug Control members can give +1s.
[21:15] <simar> sense: oh! Still, I will start preparing my application and by tomorrow or day after I will mail ..
[21:15] <simar> sense: May be someone has spoted me doing work.. so he will support me ..
[21:16] <sense> simar: All applications will be considered seriously. Just make sure you choose five good examples so people will look at your best work.
[21:16] <sense> simar: You have read the documentation for applying to Ubuntu Bug Control?
[21:16] <micahg> sense: all Ubuntu devs are bug control members :)
[21:17] <sense> micahg: Ah, yes. Forgot that bit!
[21:17] <simar> sense: ya quite a bit of it. But I wll have to read it again.
[21:17] <sense> ok
[21:17] <simar> sense: micahg Its good then..
[22:52] <yofel> ogasawara: can you take a glance at bug 608449? not sure who to ask and you did some work on the hook in the past
[22:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 608449 in apport (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "lspci returns error on devices that don't have pci adapters (arm) (affects: 1) (heat: 492)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608449