| pitti | Good morning | 07:00 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | very good morning pitti :) | 07:00 |
| pitti | hey nigelb, how are you? | 07:01 |
| nigelb | pitti: down with a bad cold and throat pain, but still so far a good day otherwise :) | 07:01 |
| pitti | uh, get well soon! | 07:02 |
| nigelb | thank you :) | 07:02 |
| baptistemm | hello | 07:07 |
| TheMuso | Hey pitti. | 07:27 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 07:29 |
| pitti | bonjour baptistemm | 07:29 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Quit well thanks, and yourself? | 07:30 |
| TheMuso | quite even' | 07:30 |
| pitti | hehe | 07:30 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks | 07:30 |
| pitti | I'm back on platform this week for alpha-3 | 07:30 |
| baptistemm | salut pitti | 07:36 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:38 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, comment vas-tu? | 07:38 |
| pitti | back home? | 07:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va très bien, merci ;) yes, back home with a beautiful weather! | 07:39 |
| pitti | raining cats and dogs today | 07:39 |
| didrocks | pitti: still little bit exhausted but feel well. Thanks :) | 07:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: urgh :/ | 07:40 |
| pitti | but at least the weekend was marvellous | 07:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: and you? how are you? | 07:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm great, thanks! had a very lazy weekend, some bicycling and family visiting, and a lot of reading | 07:40 |
| pitti | Laney: hm, your tomboy merge isn't in bzr | 07:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: great :) | 07:42 |
| pitti | RAOF: good morning | 07:48 |
| pitti | RAOF: I'm currently slaughtering some upstream changelogs to reclaim back some CD space | 07:48 |
| RAOF | pitti: Good afternoon! | 07:48 |
| RAOF | pitti: You'd like mesa's gone, I take it? | 07:48 |
| pitti | RAOF: x-x-v-{intel,ati,radon,nouveau} take 1 MB together (compressed), could we kill them? | 07:48 |
| RAOF | Sure. | 07:48 |
| pitti | RAOF: we already did mesa, it seems | 07:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: I'm happy to do the uploads, but I guess those pacakges are in git somewhere? | 07:49 |
| RAOF | Ah, yeah. | 07:49 |
| RAOF | They are in git, yeah. debcheckout grabs the right thing, you need the “ubuntu” branch. | 07:49 |
| and471 | morning all | 07:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: if I send you format-patch and upload, could you git am and push them? | 07:50 |
| and471 | hey didrocks, are you the package maintainer for lernid? | 07:50 |
| RAOF | pitti: Yup. | 07:50 |
| didrocks | and471: I've made the upload on request in the past | 07:50 |
| and471 | didrocks, ah ok cool :) | 07:51 |
| didrocks | and471: if there is a new upstream release, I can upload it to ubuntu | 07:51 |
| didrocks | and471: morning btw ;) | 07:51 |
| and471 | didrocks, I made a debdiff for the new release, it fixes loads of bugs :) | 07:51 |
| and471 | gimme a sec for the url.. | 07:51 |
| RAOF | pitti: We'll need to rebuild them all soon anyway, for new Xserver, which should be ready tomorrow. | 07:52 |
| and471 | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lernid/+bug/546968 | 07:52 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 546968 in lernid (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Inappropriately appears in Ubuntu Software Center "Developer Tools" > "Python" (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,Fix committed] | 07:52 |
| and471 | didrocks, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52813519/lernid_0.7.debdiff | 07:52 |
| pitti | RAOF: ah, then I won't need the uploads today | 07:52 |
| didrocks | and471: great! I'll have a look at it today and keep you in touch :) | 07:52 |
| and471 | thanks didrocks :) | 07:52 |
| didrocks | and471: thank to you :) | 07:53 |
| and471 | sense, hey, I realised why I had that gtk thing on lucid - I have the appmenugtk ppa, so don't worry about it for all of lucid, it is just me :) | 07:59 |
| sense | and471, | 08:00 |
| sense | ok | 08:00 |
| sense | and471: By the way, I asked the author of the patch and he said they would release a fix today. | 08:00 |
| and471 | sense, cool :) | 08:00 |
| pitti | RAOF: intel and radeon format-patch on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/ | 08:02 |
| pitti | RAOF: nouveau will fix itself on next build, it uses dh compat 7 and does not explicitly specify the changelog | 08:02 |
| RAOF | pitti: Ta muchly. | 08:02 |
| pitti | RAOF: thanks to you | 08:02 |
| pitti | ccheney: would you mind to drop installing the upstream changelog from OO.o? (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/openoffice/3.2.1-maverick/annotate/head%3A/rules#L3877) | 08:10 |
| pitti | I can't commit to the branch | 08:10 |
| pitti | but we install the 1.2 MB thing in triplicate | 08:10 |
| didrocks | and471: hey, can you please propose another debdiff, with in the changelog the title of the bug fixed rather than just numbers? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | and471: that will help people interesting knowing what the new release fixes for them :) | 08:12 |
| and471 | didrocks, sure gimme a few minutes :) | 08:12 |
| didrocks | and471: you should mention your change as well in debian/control | 08:14 |
| and471 | hey mpt, Sorry but I think I have found an issue with that login dialog again ;p | 08:14 |
| mpt | Good morning and471 | 08:14 |
| and471 | mpt, I think the best way for me to state this is first could you describe the behaviour when the 'remember password' checkbox is ticked? http://bit.ly/aF8ojd | 08:15 |
| mpt | mvo, good morning -- I slipped up two weeks ago and didn't get to see the end-to-end buy-something demo. Do you have instructions handy that I could follow to run through it myself? | 08:16 |
| mpt | and471, if it's checked, your Ubuntu SSO password should be stored in gnome-keyring. If it isn't, it isn't. | 08:18 |
| mvo | mpt: there is a ec2 demo instance now, give me a bit of time to update the code to it and it should be possible to test against this. this will save you the hazzle of setting up a local dev server (that is notoriously troublesome on maverick) | 08:18 |
| mpt | thanks mvo | 08:18 |
| and471 | mpt, the thing is, we don't actually remember the *password*, we remember a token for the Ubuntu SSO service that allows us the make requests in the future without having to know the email and password | 08:19 |
| and471 | mpt, so when it says 'remember password' that isn't actually what we are doing | 08:19 |
| mpt | ah | 08:19 |
| mpt | and471, what do you think about "Remember sign-in details" instead? | 08:21 |
| mpt | oh, make that "sign-on details" | 08:21 |
| and471 | mpt, that is what I was thinking, or yesterday I was using facebook for something and the used 'Remember login' | 08:21 |
| and471 | mpt, the string change is fine, but then I was worried about the behaviour afterwards | 08:21 |
| and471 | mpt, say a user then logs in again in a future session, what do we show in the login dialog? | 08:22 |
| mpt | and471, so what we really want to say is "Sign on automatically next time", I guess | 08:22 |
| and471 | mpt, yeah pretty much | 08:22 |
| mpt | and471, the point being to offer a choice between going through the dialog every time, and going through it just this once. | 08:22 |
| and471 | mpt, which is okay, because if SC knows the token, it doesn't need to remember any forgotten passwords | 08:22 |
| and471 | mpt, yup | 08:23 |
| mpt | mvo, do/will/should we use different tokens for reviewing stuff vs. buying stuff? | 08:23 |
| mvo | mpt: no, those will be the same, just a ubuntu-sso oauth token | 08:24 |
| mvo | mpt: currently we just use a different one when talking to launchpad, but for the exposed functionality we do not actually have to talk to LP at all | 08:24 |
| mpt | good | 08:25 |
| mpt | and471, ok, "Sign on automatically next time" please | 08:26 |
| and471 | mpt, cool | 08:26 |
| mpt | w.t.f. | 08:28 |
| mpt | wiki.ubuntu.com says "Please use the interactive user interface to use action edit!" I don't know what that even means. | 08:28 |
| and471 | mpt, sounds engrish | 08:29 |
| mpt | The worst thing is that it's causing me to seriously wonder whether "An upload will never overwrite an existing file ... Overwrite existing attachment of same name [checkbox]" is the dumbest thing in MoinMoin, or only the second dumbest thing. | 08:31 |
| and471 | hehe | 08:32 |
| mpt | and471, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=407&rev1=406 | 08:33 |
| and471 | mpt, thanks | 08:34 |
| and471 | didrocks, is this better? http://pastebin.com/iHLVCniq | 08:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: do you know a bit about gir? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:43 |
| pitti | I was just looking at bug 600194, does anyone have an idea where to look for? | 08:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 600194 in gir-repository (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "gir-repository fails to build from source in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 122)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600194 | 08:43 |
| pitti | /usr/bin/g-ir-compiler --includedir=. --includedir=. Gtk-2.0.gir -o Gtk-2.0.typelib | 08:43 |
| pitti | Gtk-2.0.gir: error: Type reference 'GModule' not found | 08:43 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, back home? how are you? | 08:43 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:43 |
| seb128 | yes! | 08:43 |
| didrocks | and471: I would rather do that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/472099/ | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I'm fine, I mostly got over the guadecflu I got on thirday | 08:44 |
| didrocks | morning seb128 :) | 08:44 |
| * pitti grabs bug 600189 now | 08:44 | |
| didrocks | pitti: looking | 08:44 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 600189 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "devhelp fails to build from source in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 108)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600189 | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, get well soon then! | 08:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, no idea about this build error | 08:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, chassing the ftbfs list for a3? | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: chasing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=status&field.milestone%3Alist=27561 :) | 08:45 |
| pitti | seb128: someone marked them all for a3 | 08:45 |
| pitti | I don't think it's that urgent, and I'll move a lot of them | 08:45 |
| seb128 | someone being doko | 08:45 |
| seb128 | argreed | 08:45 |
| seb128 | agreed | 08:45 |
| pitti | but we should fix at laslt the basic libs | 08:45 |
| pitti | and stuff like those pointer conversion errors cause real crashes | 08:45 |
| and471 | didrocks, ok do I put the debian/control thing in, even though it is an upstream fix? (they ship the debian/ dir) | 08:46 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm back on platform duty this week do steer alpha-3 | 08:46 |
| pitti | so far I did some CD size diet, and fixing all uninstallables except l-b-m | 08:46 |
| didrocks | and471: it's not really upstream, in any case, all changes in debian/ should be explictely written in the changelog | 08:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, nice to have you back, will you train the new rm, she starts today no? | 08:47 |
| and471 | didrocks, ok, I shall redo that debdiff then, thanks for the help | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I think she'll hang out with slangasek and cjwatson at debconf | 08:47 |
| didrocks | and471: yw, just ping me once you've done it and I'll sponsor. Thanks :) | 08:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 08:48 |
| and471 | didrocks, ping | 08:50 |
| didrocks | and471: already done? :) | 08:50 |
| and471 | yup :) | 08:50 |
| Laney | pitti: oh yeah, bad me. I can't actually commit to bzr myself | 08:50 |
| didrocks | and471: sponsored, thanks a lot! | 08:57 |
| and471 | didrocks, thankyou | 08:57 |
| and471 | vish, lernid fix ^ | 08:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, did we have many rdepends on gdk-pixbuf la? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I had only 2 on my system when I checked last week | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, would have been nicer to rebuild the few rdepends rather no? | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I know of empathy, and micahg reported some problems as well (he didn't mention pacakge names) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | empathy doesn't have a lib | 09:01 |
| Laney | have you guys seen any reports of problems with the new sqlite3? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | it was likely failing due to launchpad integration | 09:01 |
| Laney | It causes huge huge performance problems fro banshee | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: but it FTBFSed due to the missing gdk-pixbuf la | 09:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, I think it's launchpad integration which needed a rebuild | 09:01 |
| seb128 | grepping through .la on my system | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, that has a .la which referenced pixbuf? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:01 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 09:02 |
| seb128 | anyway your change is fine as well I guess | 09:02 |
| seb128 | we will drop it later on | 09:02 |
| pitti | we can drop it in the next upload again then | 09:02 |
| pitti | if we rebuild lpi | 09:02 |
| kiwinote | mvo: I have updated lp:~kiwinote/software-center/getting-the-small-things-right and lp:~kiwinote/software-center/deb-files , so they are ready to merge (in that order) | 09:02 |
| seb128 | right, will do that | 09:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems you have been chassing changelogs ;-) | 09:03 |
| * seb128 reads -changes backlog | 09:03 | |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, they take some 20 MB | 09:04 |
| pitti | so, time to chop off some | 09:04 |
| and471 | didrocks, yikes, that build completely failed :/ | 09:04 |
| didrocks | is there any issue with dpkg-deb: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52866654/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.lernid_0.7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, bien rentré ? | 09:06 |
| pitti | didrocks: you can give them back | 09:07 |
| pitti | didrocks: dpkg was uploaded yesterday, and i386 fell behind | 09:07 |
| pitti | so the -dev package didn't match the dpkg version | 09:07 |
| pitti | it hit my morning uploads as well | 09:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: bien bien, petit coup de speed car impossibe de m'enregistrer (merci btstravel de s'être trompé de numéro de vol…) et donc course pour arriver à embarquer après 40 min à l'enregistrement… mais bien | 09:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: et toi, ton rhume? | 09:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh ok, thanks for the info :) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ca va, presque passé là | 09:08 |
| pitti | argh argh | 09:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: and the new dpkg segfaults | 09:08 |
| pitti | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52867088/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.gdk-pixbuf_2.21.6-2ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:08 |
| pitti | meeeh | 09:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: urgh… | 09:08 |
| seb128 | that's going to be fun... | 09:08 |
| didrocks | yeah, just before an alpha is the perfect time for that… :/ | 09:09 |
| mvo | kiwinote: great, thanks! | 09:15 |
| pitti | mvo: good morning | 09:19 |
| mvo | hey pitti | 09:20 |
| didrocks | good morning mvo | 09:26 |
| mvo | hey didrocks | 09:26 |
| mvo | didrocks: still no luck syncing with desktopcouch :/ I need to talk to u1 it seems to get this resolved, maybe my machine is in some kind of balcklist | 09:29 |
| didrocks | mvo: yeah, some are blacklisted as there was some issue in those last weeks. Talking on #ubuntuone should help to at least know if you are on that list or not | 09:30 |
| seb128 | mvo, the new apt broke the update-manager download estimation it seems, known issue? | 09:58 |
| seb128 | the summary always says it needs to download 1k now | 09:59 |
| seb128 | where I've rather some 90meg to download | 09:59 |
| mvo | seb128: not known yet, thanks for the info | 10:00 |
| mvo | seb128: I have a look | 10:00 |
| mvo | seb128: is it otherwise working well for you? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey btw ;-) how are you? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, I didn't notice other issues yet otherwise | 10:02 |
| seb128 | so yeah, it's mostly working fine ;-) | 10:02 |
| mvo | seb128: I'm good, thanks. getting the new apt in was a bit of heavily lifting, quite a bit of churn and new goodness, but also extra-care to not break anything of course | 10:03 |
| mvo | seb128: so I'm happy that it seems to have worked well (pitti helped with buildd juggling :) | 10:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, nice to see so active work on it ;-) | 10:03 |
| seb128 | the changelog was quite impressive | 10:03 |
| mvo | yeah :) | 10:04 |
| mvo | seb128: how are you? easy trip back from guadec | 10:05 |
| pitti | mvo: only remaining problem is the packagekit-gnome FTBFS, AFAICS | 10:05 |
| seb128 | mvo, I'm alright, getting over guadaflu I got some days ago now | 10:06 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, that is unreleated it seems | 10:06 |
| mvo | uhh | 10:06 |
| * mvo hugs seb128 | 10:06 | |
| seb128 | the trip back was easy yes, 30 min train ride, 1 hour flight | 10:06 |
| * seb128 hugs mvo | 10:06 | |
| mvo | nice | 10:07 |
| * pitti uploads unbroken dpkg | 10:13 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:17 | |
| seb128 | mvo, can you confirm the update-manager download estimation issue? | 10:18 |
| mvo | seb128: apt-get itself is fine, let me wait for u-m to startup (cairo *cough*) | 10:19 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:20 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, looks broken too here | 10:20 |
| mvo | seb128: odd given that apt-get itself reports the right size | 10:20 |
| seb128 | ok, at least it's not only me | 10:20 |
| mvo | seb128: I check it out | 10:20 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:20 |
| seb128 | do you want a bug report? | 10:20 |
| mvo | seb128: yes please | 10:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #612326 | 10:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 612326 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update manager display all updates size as 1kb in the main windows after updating to libept1 (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612326 | 10:24 |
| seb128 | I guess that's the same issue | 10:24 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks | 10:26 |
| seb128 | mvo, hum, new apt complains about .save files in sources.list.d but those files are not thing I've added it comes from the dist-upgraders or something | 10:32 |
| seb128 | well "complain", displays a N: Ignoring file..." | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how was GUADEC? | 10:34 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 10:34 |
| seb128 | quite nice, lot of catching up with people I didn't see in a while | 10:35 |
| htorque | seb128, that's bug 611925 | 10:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 611925 in apt (Ubuntu) "sources are not recognized (affects: 16) (dups: 1) (heat: 58)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611925 | 10:35 |
| seb128 | htorque, thanks | 10:36 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks, did you have fun too? | 10:37 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah a lot, thanks! now trying to catchup :) | 10:37 |
| andreasn | seb128, so this French conspiracy... | 10:38 |
| seb128 | andreasn, hey | 10:38 |
| andreasn | so many French speaking people at guadec | 10:38 |
| seb128 | andreasn, yeah, you should really learn | 10:39 |
| andreasn | I know it already | 10:39 |
| seb128 | if you want to be able to join the interesting discussions you need french as a skill | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 10:39 |
| andreasn | yeah, I need to study really hard until next year | 10:40 |
| andreasn | it will be the Official Language of GNOME Development Discussions | 10:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: did you figure out for libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la issue? I've (I hope) fixed the evolution ftbfs but I got the missing file now | 10:41 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, I noticed that too, I have not fully made up my mind yet about it | 10:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we needed a lpi rebuild but pitti added the la back rather for now | 10:42 |
| didrocks | /usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.la is depending on it | 10:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, in any case a rebuild should work | 10:42 |
| pitti | well, we can/should still do an lpi rebuild then | 10:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: rebuild of libgdk_pixbuf-2.0, right? | 10:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, will do once you fix the builders ;-) | 10:42 |
| pitti | seb128: you can upload | 10:42 |
| pitti | seb128: I set all buildds to manual | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, that has been uploaded | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you just need to give a retry to your builds when the new gdk-pixbuf is published if it's not yet | 10:43 |
| pitti | no, it's not yet | 10:43 |
| pitti | I'm also waiting on it to retry empathy | 10:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I should miss it for now. Hope that it will work and that I really fixed the evo FTBFS, it's not a trivial backport :) | 10:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok | 10:44 |
| pitti | didrocks: when I retry empathy (once it's ready), shall I retry evo as well? | 10:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: no, I didn't upload it yet. I'm doing a local build first to ensure it's working. I'm just waiting to get the published version of libgdk_pixbuf so | 10:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can easily workaround by creating an empathy libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la | 10:45 |
| seb128 | an empty libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la | 10:45 |
| seb128 | doh, autofinger typing ;-) | 10:45 |
| pitti | haha, autofingers :) | 10:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: empty one? ok thanks :) | 10:45 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 10:45 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:45 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, or rm the liblaunchpad-integration one | 10:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: already touched, and building in progress. Fingers crossed I didn't forgot anything for all the deprecation stuff which landed with new gtk for evo | 10:47 |
| didrocks | hum, touching it didn't worked `/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la' is not a valid libtool archive | 10:48 |
| didrocks | will remove the liblaunchpad one | 10:48 |
| seb128 | right, I was just checking that | 10:49 |
| seb128 | you can copy the gtk one otherwise to have a valid format and clean the depends | 10:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: right, but it's just for testing right now, so let's keep it that way for now | 10:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) | 10:51 |
| seb128 | np | 10:51 |
| seb128 | let me know if you try the lpi cleaning one | 10:52 |
| seb128 | I think I will just make it stop shipping the .la | 10:52 |
| seb128 | nothing else depends on it | 10:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: it didn't fail with that (it failed later, but not because of that one) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, this will be harder and harder to backport all deprecation thing for 2.30. I would suggest to move to 2.32 as they dep on either gtk2 or gtk3, and wait for 2.31.6 for it (so, upload post A3), do you agree? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | what do you mean backport all deprecation thing? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | just don't build using -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED | 10:58 |
| seb128 | that's the standard way to workaround those issues | 10:59 |
| seb128 | tarballs should not set that | 10:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I wanted to make that better with patching from new version. ok, will do that so | 10:59 |
| seb128 | not sure about 2.32 they didn't start porting to gsettings | 10:59 |
| seb128 | they mentioned breaking everything for 2.32 to get on shape for next cycle on their channel after the GUADEC announce about the GNOME3 delay... | 11:00 |
| didrocks | seb128: right now, it's still using gconf in configure.ac | 11:00 |
| seb128 | I would rather watch what they do and if they roll a 2.32 now or an another 2.30 tarball rather | 11:00 |
| didrocks | ok, I will have a look where the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED comes from | 11:01 |
| seb128 | better to just don't disable deprecated functions for now | 11:01 |
| seb128 | it's likely in the configure | 11:01 |
| didrocks | gotcha, trying | 11:02 |
| === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | mvo, can you add bug #611925 to your list as well? | 11:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 611925 in apt (Ubuntu) "sources are not recognized (affects: 17) (dups: 1) (heat: 62)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611925 | 11:32 |
| asac | seb128: hey ;) | 11:40 |
| asac | seb128: done with guadec? | 11:40 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: do you want to keep bug 601009 on the alpha-3 list? | 11:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 601009 in swt-gtk (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "swt-gtk fails to build from source in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 125)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601009 | 11:40 |
| asac | do you need any MIR processed ;)? .... we need syncs from unstable for eina eet evas ecore efreet edje elementary edbus | 11:40 |
| seb128 | asac, hey, yes | 11:41 |
| pitti | hey asac | 11:41 |
| pitti | asac: bug 609992 would be nice, should be easy | 11:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 609992 in libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[MIR] libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609992 | 11:41 |
| asac | seb128: anything important on gnome mobile at guadec? | 11:41 |
| seb128 | asac, I can do the syncs | 11:41 |
| * asac apt-get source libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl and open bugs | 11:41 | |
| asac | seb128: thanks!! | 11:41 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - feel free to move that, i probably won't get to it before a3 | 11:41 |
| seb128 | asac, no, there was not a lot of "mobile" this year | 11:41 |
| asac | hmm | 11:41 |
| asac | so seems that effort is dying | 11:41 |
| seb128 | asac, I guess that moved to the nokia summit rather | 11:41 |
| asac | if not now, then never | 11:41 |
| asac | ah ... ok good be | 11:41 |
| asac | could be | 11:41 |
| asac | seb128: nokia summit ... right. thats != meego summit. wondere what nokia would do still on gnome | 11:42 |
| seb128 | GUADEC was rather focussed on GNOME3 this year | 11:42 |
| asac | pitti: interesting that there is no alternative for that in main already (e.g. perl + ssl + x509 feels like something more or less common -- even though perl is a dinosaur ;)) | 11:44 |
| davmor2 | seb128: including the news on releasing it next year go figure :) | 11:45 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| didrocks | seb128: did you have some time to look at oneconf packaging? I would understand that with your cold, you prefered sleeping on the plane :-) | 11:49 |
| seb128 | right, I didn't work on the way back but doing that now | 11:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lp:oneconf? | 11:50 |
| seb128 | or do you have a different url for the packaging? | 11:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, thanks :) | 11:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: no, right now, it's a native package | 11:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 0.09 is a weird version | 11:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, shouldn't we use python-support nowadays? | 11:54 |
| seb128 | I though that's what debian standardized on now | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: I used the same thing that USC was using TBH :) | 11:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the build-depends on lsb-release doesn't seem required | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: on the phone, will be available in 20 minutes I guess | 11:54 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's for setup.py | 11:54 |
| seb128 | I'm about to go to eat | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: enjoy so, we can discuss about it then! | 11:54 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:55 |
| seb128 | the description needs a review from an english speaker ;-) | 11:55 |
| seb128 | but "have a command" -> has at least | 11:55 |
| seb128 | and some "the" before usc and diff I guess | 11:56 |
| seb128 | anyway | 11:56 |
| seb128 | bbl | 11:56 |
| * and471 just discovered bzr shred repositories.... | 11:59 | |
| * and471 just discovered bzr shared repositories.... | 11:59 | |
| asac | seb128: do you need a mail with the list of packages i pasted above? or do you have that on your list now? | 12:08 |
| asac | would be good to get that synched so we have still time to stabilize a bit for a3 | 12:09 |
| micahg | seb128: I wanted to ask you about the gjs version in sid, a version bump was done w/out a release, is this something we want to sync? | 12:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, available now, changing the description and I'll have some review there too | 12:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: if you look at setup.py you will see why lsb-release is needed (stolen from USC ;)) | 12:14 |
| pitti | dpkg confirmed fixed, buildds back | 12:14 |
| pitti | please retry builds of your stuff that you uploaded this morning | 12:14 |
| didrocks | pitti: great! | 12:14 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti | 12:15 | |
| pitti | phun | 12:15 |
| micahg | pitti: should I retry the package that failed on the gdk-pixbuf.la or save it till the alpha3 stuff is clear? | 12:15 |
| pitti | micahg: you need to wait another hour | 12:15 |
| micahg | pitti: k | 12:15 |
| pitti | micahg: actually, 1:45 | 12:15 |
| pitti | micahg: I just built the fixed gdk-pixbuf on amd64, and another arch is missing | 12:16 |
| pitti | micahg: got stalled due to the dpkg debacle | 12:16 |
| micahg | pitti: ok, are all the retries linked or can I try the successful arches now? | 12:16 |
| pitti | micahg: no, retries are per-arch on the web ui | 12:17 |
| pitti | micahg: but the ubuntu-build script works on all arches by default | 12:17 |
| pitti | micahg: I suggest to just run ubuntu-build in 1:45 | 12:17 |
| micahg | pitti: oh, I was just going to use the webui, I haven't tried the ubuntu-build script yet | 12:17 |
| pitti | micahg: that's fine; but as I said, amd64 was just built, and needs to publish first | 12:18 |
| pitti | sparc is building, and I bumped powerpc build score | 12:18 |
| micahg | pitti: ok, thanks | 12:18 |
| pitti | good time to grab lunch, bbl | 12:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: enjoy | 12:19 |
| === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | pitti, you still have two a3 work items on the list, the language selector spec with be postpone but what about the gpu freeze one? | 12:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, you still have some workitems for a3, how are those going? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you add the provides in the control? that seems trivial | 12:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what about the translations permissions and pyxpcom ones? | 12:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, the provides will be added when i do the next upload | 12:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how is the banshee remaining work item going? | 12:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, will that land today or tomorrow? | 12:50 |
| chrisccoulson | i started packaging pyxpcom, but got sidetracked (and that's a low priority issue anyway) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: still waiting for upstream to merge in trunk, was planned for previous week but not done yet. Won't make it for A3 I guess | 12:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, can you change it to beta? | 12:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure, will do it in few minutes | 12:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, can you move the pyxpcom to beta then? | 12:51 |
| * micahg can do it, in the middle of an edit | 12:52 | |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:52 |
| chrisccoulson | oops, just did it ;) | 12:53 |
| micahg | seb128: what's the status in a blueprint for no longer necessary | 12:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish LP would warn about that | 12:53 |
| seb128 | micahg, I don't think there is one | 12:54 |
| micahg | seb128: can I just leave it blank? | 12:54 |
| seb128 | ie delete the line or set it to done with a note | 12:54 |
| micahg | k | 12:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^right? | 12:54 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, that's annoying sometimes | 12:55 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i thought my laptop had frozen there, but actually, my keyboard batteries have run flat ;) | 12:57 |
| micahg | seb128: did you see my question about the gjs merge from Debian above? | 12:59 |
| pitti | seb128: gpu freeze> I don't think I'll get to that, sorry | 12:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's ok, moving to beta then | 12:59 |
| pitti | micahg: you mean a WI status or a BP status? empty status means "todo" | 12:59 |
| seb128 | micahg, I didn't understand it I think | 13:00 |
| pitti | if the WI is no longer necessary, set it to "done" or remove it entirely | 13:00 |
| seb128 | micahg, you mean they set the version to one not matching the upstream tarball one? | 13:00 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, I'm not sure if the maintainer did the version bump by accident or not since there doesn't seem to be an upstream tag AFAICT | 13:00 |
| seb128 | 0.7.1? | 13:01 |
| micahg | seb128: yes | 13:01 |
| seb128 | it's on http://download.gnome.org/sources/gjs/0.7 | 13:01 |
| seb128 | doing the upgrade would be nice | 13:01 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, I guess there's no issue, then, I"ll try to do it before FF then | 13:02 |
| seb128 | thank you | 13:02 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| dpm | hi didrocks, I'm not sure I should ask you or ted, but would it be possible to set a higher priority than Wishlist on bug 579134, also as per pitti's comment? Having a locale-aware clock should be a basic feature rather than a wishlist. | 14:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 579134 in indicator-datetime "Indicator Applet - Time Settings no 24h (affects: 8) (heat: 36)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579134 | 14:03 |
| pitti | "wishlist" is definitively not appropriate | 14:03 |
| pitti | it's a real problem, not an enhancement | 14:03 |
| seb128 | dpm, hasn't that been fixed with the version uploaded during the sprint? | 14:03 |
| pitti | it is NOT 3 o'clock here | 14:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, having an option is a wishlist | 14:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: there is no ui to change the behavior, only gsettings key, right? | 14:04 |
| dpm | seb128, unless I'm missing the upload where it's been fixed, it is still 3:04 on my system, where I'd expect 15:04, the same as the calendar applet | 14:05 |
| seb128 | dpm, did it got translated into spanish yet? | 14:05 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, is there another report about the actual bug then? | 14:05 |
| dpm | seb128, my system is Catalan, but there is no translatable template available (a separate bug I'm about to report) | 14:06 |
| pitti | I don't think we really need an option here, FWIW | 14:06 |
| dpm | I don't think so either | 14:06 |
| pitti | we should just ask the locale about the preferred time format, and then use %H or %I depending on that | 14:06 |
| seb128 | "#. TRANSLATORS: This string is used to determine the default | 14:06 |
| seb128 | #. clock style for your locale. If it is the string '12' then | 14:06 |
| seb128 | #. the default will be a 12-hour clock using AM/PM string. " | 14:06 |
| seb128 | #: ../src/indicator-datetime.c:823 | 14:06 |
| seb128 | msgid "12" | 14:06 |
| seb128 | msgstr "" | 14:06 |
| seb128 | #: ../src/indicator-datetime.c:837 | 14:06 |
| pitti | this is wrong.. | 14:06 |
| seb128 | msgid "%l:%M:%S %p" | 14:06 |
| seb128 | msgstr "" | 14:06 |
| seb128 | also | 14:06 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure why the first one | 14:07 |
| seb128 | he does use strftime() with translatable format options | 14:07 |
| seb128 | which I think is the standard way to do that | 14:07 |
| dpm | seb128, then it is just a matter of making the indicator-datetime src pkg create a template on build and let translators specify it | 14:07 |
| dpm | let me file that one | 14:07 |
| pitti | seb128: no, that's totally redundant; the locale already defines the time format | 14:07 |
| pitti | it shouldn't be in a per-project .po file | 14:08 |
| seb128 | dpm, oh, it doesn't have a template? | 14:08 |
| pitti | dpm: no no no, please not | 14:08 |
| pitti | this is hackish, and EBW | 14:08 |
| dpm | pitti, got you | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, wait, we need a translation template, there are actual strings useful to translate | 14:08 |
| dpm | in any case, the package still needs to generate a template | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's orthogonal to how we get the time to display | 14:09 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but not for the 12/24 hours thing | 14:09 |
| dpm | yeah, the "Time & Date Settings..." one, for example | 14:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, well the translation things is required if you want to get a 12,24 hours option you can select | 14:12 |
| dpm | seb128, re: the template, here's bug 612540. Most bugs seem to be reported in the upstream project, but I figured out that this has to do with packaging, so I reported it against the package | 14:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 612540 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "indicator-datetime needs to generate a POT template on build (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612540 | 14:15 |
| seb128 | dpm, thanks | 14:16 |
| seb128 | will fix that in a bit | 14:16 |
| pitti | micahg: gdk-pixbuf published, feel free to retry now | 14:19 |
| * pitti retries empathy | 14:19 | |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx... i just hit that FTBFS locally :) | 14:23 |
| pitti | kenvandine: with the broken dpkg? dist-upgrade again then :) | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | no, building empathy | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | yay... empathy builds again :) | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | thx pitti | 14:25 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yep, just gave it back on the buildds | 14:25 |
| micahg | pitti: thanks | 14:25 |
| pitti | checkbox (Δ 5.9 MB - 0.10: 0.1 MB 0.10.1: 6.0 MB) | 14:26 |
| pitti | bah, what happened to checkbox | 14:26 |
| pitti | ah, I think it started to copy all the files from example-content | 14:26 |
| pitti | ttf-unfonts-core (Δ 12.4 MB - 1.0.1-7ubuntu1: 7.6 MB 1.0.2-080608-3: 20.0 MB) | 14:26 |
| pitti | ?!? | 14:27 |
| pitti | and another net +7 MB from removed/added packages (i.e . libraries) | 14:28 |
| pitti | == Added packages == | 14:29 |
| pitti | git (6.3 MB) | 14:29 |
| pitti | a-ha | 14:29 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:29 |
| * pitti gets out his package diet whip again | 14:30 | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk | ||
| seb128 | pitti, you "drop autopoint recommends" might break builds | 14:57 |
| pitti | seb128: it can't | 14:57 |
| pitti | seb128: sbuild doesn't install recommends as build deps | 14:58 |
| seb128 | can't it? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | hum, k, so maybe the previous change was already breaking builds | 14:58 |
| pitti | seb128: also, it didn't depend on autopoint until after alpha-2 | 14:58 |
| seb128 | I had a build failing today because autopoint was not installed | 14:58 |
| seb128 | well autopoint was in gettext before no? | 14:58 |
| pitti | and autopoint is a developer/build tool (like git), it shouldn't be a runtime dependency | 14:58 |
| pitti | seb128: I think that was reorganized a bit, yes | 14:59 |
| pitti | debian split it off | 14:59 |
| seb128 | I didn't say it's a runtime thing | 14:59 |
| seb128 | gettext isn't a runtime things either | 14:59 |
| seb128 | ok, I was just pointing that the change broke builds there | 14:59 |
| pitti | quite some shell scripts use it, though | 14:59 |
| seb128 | autoreconf run are bailing out | 14:59 |
| pitti | seb128: well, if it does, I'm sorry | 14:59 |
| pitti | but I would have thought this would have broken with the gettext merge, not the recommends change | 15:00 |
| seb128 | that's fine, we can change dh-autoreconf to depends on it if required | 15:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, it did | 15:00 |
| pitti | that'd probably make sense, yes | 15:00 |
| seb128 | as said I had issues this morning | 15:00 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 15:00 |
| seb128 | ie before your upload | 15:00 |
| pitti | *phew* :) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | I'm just commenting now because I see you go further that direction | 15:00 |
| seb128 | I didn't know sbuild ignored recommends | 15:00 |
| pitti | it deliberately does, I think, to ensure that depends are used correctly | 15:01 |
| seb128 | I though the recommends would still pull it in buildds and that the issue was a local one there | 15:01 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:01 |
| seb128 | I guess we will just need to make autoreconf depends on it if it's really required | 15:01 |
| mvo | hey tremolux, good morning | 15:03 |
| tremolux | hiya mvo | 15:04 |
| === cking_ is now known as cking | ||
| Laney | Who (if anyone) maintains OOo in Ubuntu these days? | 15:23 |
| sense | chrisccoulson: Where can I find the latest version of your quilt-autotools.sh script? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, nobody | 15:28 |
| chrisccoulson | sense - i think there's only one. did i ever host that somewhere publicly then? | 15:28 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, yeah, i see it now ;) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, or rather it's not actively being worked | 15:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, sense: use edit-patch ;-) | 15:28 |
| sense | chrisccoulson: Not that I am aware of, I received one of you once. Was just curious if there was a newer version since I last used it. | 15:29 |
| sense | seb128: Alright, I'll try that. :) | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 / sense, yeah, i wrote the patch before edit-patch existed | 15:29 |
| sense | ah, I see | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | it made life easy when doing autotools updates with quilt | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | s/patch/script/ | 15:29 |
| === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow | ||
| sense | seb128: I get complaints by edit-patch that it is not in a valid Debian directory (even though it really is), do you know any good documentation for it? | 15:32 |
| sense | It was a wrapper for both quilt and dpatch, right? | 15:32 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| seb128 | sense, just "edit-patch name" | 15:35 |
| seb128 | where name is the name of the patch file you want to edit | 15:35 |
| sense | I tried that. :S | 15:35 |
| sense | Ah, now it seems to be working. | 15:39 |
| sense | seb128: A German example? ;) I thought you were French! | 15:47 |
| seb128 | sense, right, but french is less verbose than german in that case | 15:48 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:48 |
| sense | So even a better example! | 15:48 |
| seb128 | hehe | 15:49 |
| * didrocks adds that to the example list when we say that seb128 is German :) | 15:49 | |
| seb128 | bah | 15:49 |
| sense | Elzas? | 15:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, trying to get revanche for what I said last weeks? ;-) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: exactly, and it's only the beginning :-) | 15:50 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:50 |
| sense | s/Elzas/Alsace | 15:50 |
| didrocks | ;) | 15:50 |
| seb128 | bah | 15:51 |
| seb128 | session restart, brb | 15:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: more seriously, apart from the python-central (moved to python-support now) and from the description that will be changed, the rest of oneconf packaging seems ok for you? | 15:51 |
| sense | didrocks: He's offline! | 15:52 |
| didrocks | sense: I know, one second too late :) | 15:52 |
| sense | aww | 15:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: some issue during session restart? | 16:08 |
| sense | He must have been driven away by your insults. | 16:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, just decided to test some extra changes and not restart IRC in between | 16:09 |
| seb128 | I'm back now | 16:10 |
| seb128 | did I miss anything? | 16:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: (yeah, just before you disconnected) more seriously, apart from the python-central (moved to python-support now) and from the description that will be changed, the rest of oneconf packaging seems ok for you? can I upload? | 16:10 |
| didrocks | even if the "more seriously" is out of context now :-) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I think it was, let me check, did you ask mvo about python-support? thinking about it now I'm unsure if it should use the same system than s-c | 16:12 |
| didrocks | mvo: did you use python-central on purpose rather than python-support for USC? which one do you advise? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, "using the command line to allow" is weird ;-) | 16:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, it's not that important, the switch is really easy with dh7 in any case. I have no strong opinion (we use python-support in quickly) | 16:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: I would blame tremolux for that :-) ^ | 16:14 |
| seb128 | data_files=[ | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ('share/oneconf/data/ui/', | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ENOSUCHDIR? | 16:15 |
| seb128 | oh, it's destination, source | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, seems fine to me, you can uploae | 16:16 |
| seb128 | upload | 16:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I got catched everytime, (destination, source) is so uncommon :/ | 16:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, I'll check for the description | 16:16 |
| didrocks | and then upload | 16:16 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the review :) | 16:17 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| didrocks | seb128: | 16:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: It integrates nicely with the Ubuntu Software Center and the command line tool can be used to allow you to compare… | 16:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks, nice ;-) | 16:20 |
| didrocks | (sorry, I hate when copy on hilight doesn't work) | 16:20 |
| seb128 | you could as well drop the "to allow you" I guess | 16:21 |
| didrocks | oh yes, works well this way | 16:21 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 16:21 |
| seb128 | np | 16:21 |
| and471 | mpt, with the login dialog, do you want a measure to be put in place to stop people entering blank usernames and passwords? | 16:23 |
| tremolux | didrocks, seb128: better :) | 16:23 |
| and471 | mpt, i.e. diable the continue button until both are typed in, or if they don't type anything, flag up a message when they click continue | 16:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: uploaded | 16:24 |
| didrocks | tremolux: seb128: thanks! ;) | 16:24 |
| seb128 | hey tremolux | 16:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 16:24 |
| sense | chrisccoulson: I think I've found out why the 'child-added' signal didn't work: it was only triggered when you insert a menu item into a GtkMenuShell, but I think gtk_menu_add_submenu() is a separate function. | 16:34 |
| sense | fyi | 16:35 |
| sense | correction: gtk_menu_item_set_submenu() | 16:36 |
| === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf | ||
| sense | chrisccoulson: Whoops, wrong addressant. | 16:37 |
| sense | sorry | 16:37 |
| mpt | and471, your attention to detail is impressive. :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=409&rev1=408 | 16:39 |
| mvo | didrocks: (phonecall, sorry) | 16:39 |
| and471 | mpt, most people just call it anal-retentive :D | 16:40 |
| didrocks | no worry :) | 16:40 |
| vish | seb128: hi ,since gnome 3 got postponed , are we gonna get gnome 2.32 or still only patching stuff? | 16:50 |
| seb128 | getting 2.32 | 16:50 |
| seb128 | but it might not be what you think it will be | 16:51 |
| seb128 | ie the nautilus changes will not be in 2.32 | 16:51 |
| vish | hmm , ok. :) | 16:51 |
| seb128 | some maintainer will just roll a new 2.30 tarball for it | 16:51 |
| mvo | didrocks: python-cenral vs python-support> I don't mind | 16:53 |
| didrocks | mvo: ok, let's go python-support for now for oneconf so :) | 16:54 |
| mvo | fine with me | 16:54 |
| vish | seb128: nice call on gnome 3 btw :) | 16:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: if you can NEW it in a spare cycle | 16:54 |
| and471 | vish, what are the nautilus changes? (curious) | 16:58 |
| vish | and471: there have been a lot of minor changes.. lot of bug fixes too | 16:59 |
| and471 | ok thx | 16:59 |
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| vish | didrocks: when you are doing the next pidgin update , could you upload this too Bug #259793 , there is a branch with a merge | 17:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 259793 in pidgin (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Pidgin description in Add/Remove Applications is overly geeky (affects: 4) (heat: 32)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259793 | 17:10 |
| vish | oops! meant to say seb128 ^^ | 17:10 |
| vish | didrocks: accidentally pinged you! force of habit :) | 17:11 |
| seb128 | can do | 17:11 |
| didrocks | vish: heh, no worry :) | 17:11 |
| vish | seb128: thanks . :) | 17:11 |
| seb128 | asac, your sync are done, sorry I forgot about it after lunch | 17:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, reviewing oneconf now | 17:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks! | 17:17 |
| seb128 | "can be used to compare the set of installed software on your current computer to that of another." | 17:18 |
| seb128 | is weird also | 17:18 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:19 |
| seb128 | (I'm not better at writting description don't worry, I think we should have a board reviewing those and doing suggestions or writting those ;-) | 17:19 |
| didrocks | yeah, I was finding that strange too, but I was thinking that it was some kind of expression "to that of another" I didn't knew | 17:23 |
| didrocks | probably not so :) | 17:23 |
| and471 | seb128, I am a antive english speaker if you want :) | 17:23 |
| and471 | *native | 17:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, did you mean "to the one of another" there? | 17:24 |
| seb128 | and471, well then you are welcome to make suggestions for better oneconf description if you want ;-) | 17:24 |
| seb128 | I'm sure you will make didrocks happy | 17:24 |
| * didrocks looks before tremolux's suggestion :) | 17:24 | |
| didrocks | oh yeah, I'll be happy! | 17:24 |
| and471 | seb128, didrocks, sorry to interrupt, but would"can be used to compare installed software between computers" be okay? | 17:25 |
| seb128 | and471, seems great to me at least | 17:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:25 |
| seb128 | and no interruption don't worry ;-) | 17:25 |
| didrocks | and471: sounds good, thanks :) | 17:26 |
| and471 | seb128, didrocks, no need to thanks, your english is far better than my french :) | 17:26 |
| * didrocks seb128 bon, c'était pas de moi ce "to that of another" après un bzr diff :) | 17:26 | |
| didrocks | upsss /me /msg | 17:26 |
| seb128 | lol | 17:26 |
| didrocks | sorry for interrupting with French :) | 17:26 |
| didrocks | and471: you should practice :-) | 17:27 |
| and471 | de rien | 17:27 |
| didrocks | and471: let me pastebin the full description, one sec | 17:28 |
| and471 | didrocks, I know, I am doing it for A Level, but I have managed to forget it all in the summer holidays :D | 17:28 |
| didrocks | and471: take some holidays in France, and it will be back soon enough :-) | 17:28 |
| and471 | didrocks, the shameful thing is I have french cousins and belgian grandparents XD | 17:29 |
| and471 | I guess as an english speaker I am spoiled | 17:29 |
| didrocks | and471: how does this sound: http://paste.ubuntu.com/472263/ ? | 17:30 |
| didrocks | and471: heh, right :) | 17:30 |
| and471 | didrocks, replace 'the set of installed software' with 'sets of of installed software' and it is lovely jubbly :) | 17:31 |
| tremolux | didrocks, and471: but it's both the integration with software center *and* the command line tool that allow the comparison, isn't that true? | 17:32 |
| didrocks | tremolux: right, that should be changed to be more explicit (you can use the one or the other) | 17:33 |
| tremolux | didrocks, and471: two methods of performing the comparison? | 17:33 |
| and471 | tremolux, I'll hand over the torch to you, I have to eat :) | 17:34 |
| tremolux | and471: haha :) | 17:35 |
| didrocks | tremolux: and471: "It integrates nicely with the Ubuntu Software Center to compare sets of installed software between computers. A command line tool also provides for the same functionnality." | 17:35 |
| * didrocks finds the description harder than the integration itself ;) | 17:35 | |
| tremolux | and471: bon appetit | 17:36 |
| tremolux | didrocks: I think that works - just a typo -- theres a single "n" in functionality | 17:37 |
| didrocks | and471: enjoy! | 17:37 |
| didrocks | tremolux: I was unsure! Great, I'll use that one so | 17:37 |
| didrocks | and471: tremolux: thanks a lot! | 17:37 |
| tremolux | didrocks: haha, should be easier than all that, eh?? ah well | 17:38 |
| didrocks | tremolux: ok, not *that* easier :p | 17:38 |
| tremolux | didrocks: I suggest a more simple approach: "OneConf rocks and you need it." | 17:38 |
| * didrocks agrees with tremolux's last proposal :-) | 17:39 | |
| didrocks | clear explanation and statement | 17:39 |
| tremolux | didrocks: the plain truth, state plainly | 17:39 |
| tremolux | didrocks: :D | 17:39 |
| tremolux | *stated* plainly | 17:39 |
| didrocks | tremolux: heh :-) | 17:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: can you reject the upload? I'll upload again with the right description | 17:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, it's already accepted, fix it in the next upload | 17:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no hurry it's only the description ;-) | 17:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure, I'll just push that to trunk so :-) thanks again! | 17:41 |
| seb128 | np | 17:41 |
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| asac | seb128: np. thanks. lets hope not everything is broken for ogra. | 18:03 |
| and471 | didrocks, yw | 18:04 |
| seb128 | cassidy, hey | 18:08 |
| seb128 | cassidy, did you get bugs about online notifications being broken with 2.31.5? | 18:09 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - how often does the publisher run? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, every hour | 18:12 |
| seb128 | why? | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, thanks. i was going to run my mozilla crash symbols uploader at the same rate | 18:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is that based on ddeb or the ubuntu publisher? | 18:13 |
| seb128 | I think the ddeb are updated less often, like every 6 hours or something | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - that's based on the ubuntu publisher | 18:13 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:14 |
| Tux43 | Hello, I have an Acer Aspire 3810TZ and my microphone doesn't work on 10.4 or 10.10. | 18:22 |
| and471 | see ya everyone | 18:31 |
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| sense | What is the usual compile time for GTK+2.0? | 19:19 |
| Laney | build logs will tell you | 19:19 |
| sense | :) of course | 19:20 |
| sense | Ah, 30 minutes. | 19:22 |
| chrisccoulson | b'ah, my bot doesn't work on chinstrap because the python version is older than mine :( | 19:31 |
| vish | seb128: for those bugs i mentioned waiting for review/upload , shall i mail you the list? | 20:27 |
| vish | mentioned *last week.. | 20:27 |
| vish | or can I set the Ubuntu release milestone , instead of tags ;) | 20:28 |
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| * pitti tries to sort out the compiz uninstallability mess | 23:14 | |
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| TheMuso | Good morning. | 23:17 |
| pitti | hello TheMuso | 23:17 |
| * pitti summons Robert | 23:18 | |
| pitti | compiz-fusion-bcop needs an update to 0.8.6 | 23:19 |
| TheMuso | Robert is not usually around till 9 or so, and even then he may still be in travel recovery mode | 23:19 |
| pitti | hm, so how could compiz-fusion-plugins-main ever build | 23:20 |
| pitti | ah, compiz-fusion-bcop needs to go back to main | 23:21 |
| pitti | ok, I hope I sorted it out now | 23:25 |
| * pitti uploads and goes to bed | 23:26 | |
| pitti | night everyone! | 23:27 |
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