| pitti | good morning | 07:02 |
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| ttx | Server CD oversized again. I suggest dropping "hplip" in the print-server seed | 10:23 |
| ttx | cjwatson, pitti, slangasek: comments from release team welcome ^ | 10:26 |
| pitti | ttx: currently busy with unbreaking dpkg, will look later | 10:28 |
| pitti | ttx: but sure, please go ahead | 10:29 |
| ttx | done. | 11:20 |
| charlie-tca | I need someone to kick the server for the Xubuntu daily images | 13:23 |
| ttx | Current server ISO fails after formatting with "Kernel override 'linux-server' not present" | 13:23 |
| charlie-tca | How do we fix it? | 13:24 |
| ttx | Found kernels: '' | 13:24 |
| ttx | charlie-tca: it's a separate issue | 13:24 |
| ttx | (was not meant as an answer to you, sorry :) | 13:24 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, okay | 13:25 |
| charlie-tca | My error is - W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 13:25 |
| ttx | hmm, looks like my issue comes from uninstallable lvm2 | 13:37 |
| ttx | hm, or not. | 13:37 |
| ttx | no, that's a separate issue | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | pitti: what's wrong with dpkg? | 13:40 |
| pitti | cjwatson: it's fixed now | 13:40 |
| cjwatson | pitti: yes, but I uploaded dpkg so I'm interested | 13:40 |
| pitti | cjwatson: dpkg-builddeb crashed, which caused everything to FTBFS | 13:40 |
| pitti | cjwatson: bug 612457 | 13:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 612457 in dpkg (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "1.15.8.2 regression: dpkg-deb segfaults (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612457 | 13:40 |
| pitti | I had it in the #devel topic, but removed it again | 13:40 |
| cjwatson | odd, I did test it with a double-build I'm sure :-/ | 13:41 |
| pitti | cjwatson: it used an sprintf() to fill an exactly allocated buffer without accounting for the extra NUL byte that sprintf() writes | 13:41 |
| pitti | that triggered the stack protector | 13:41 |
| cjwatson | I assume I can drop the workaround patches on the next merge | 13:41 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right, you can | 13:41 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I just needed it to get _that_ new dpkg built | 13:41 |
| pitti | i. e. it's the PATH setting in debian/rules | 13:41 |
| pitti | cjwatson: landed safely in NY? | 13:42 |
| cjwatson | charlie-tca: I've kicked a rebuild (without looking very hard) | 13:42 |
| cjwatson | ttx: full log? | 13:42 |
| cjwatson | pitti: yep, actually was training across from IL | 13:43 |
| pitti | cjwatson: train? over the Atlantic? | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | IL - i.e. Chicago | 13:43 |
| pitti | ah, Illinois, not Ireland, sorry :) | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | pitti: thanks for fixing that dpkg bug | 13:44 |
| pitti | cjwatson: you're welcome; was a fun morning :) | 13:44 |
| ttx | cjwatson: I wonder how best I can capture that | 13:44 |
| pitti | release-wise, I got the uninstallables on i386/amd64 all fixed except for lbm, but we got a new abi anyway | 13:44 |
| charlie-tca | cjwatson: thank you | 13:45 |
| pitti | still fighting against CD overflows, and we have almost no langpack to chop off any more | 13:46 |
| ttx | cjwatson: pastebinning full log... | 13:48 |
| ttx | cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/472183/ | 13:50 |
| ttx | cjwatson: I can rerun it in English if need be. | 13:50 |
| ttx | there are a few translated messages in there, but they don't seem to apply to the issue directly. | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | apt-cdrom is unhappy; I'll have a look when I get to the venue and can update my images | 14:06 |
| ttx | cjwatson: ok, let me know if you want a bug about it, and if yes, under which package I should file it. | 14:08 |
| pitti | ok, I found three main culprits for the CD size explosion since alpha-2 | 14:29 |
| pitti | we started to ship git (+6.3 MB), checkbox now copies example-contents data (+6 MB), and ttf-unfonts-core balooned from 12.4 to 20 MB | 14:29 |
| pitti | so let's wade through that | 14:29 |
| pitti | sbeattie: do you have commit access to checkbox? | 14:50 |
| pitti | cr3 seems offline | 14:50 |
| pitti | sbeattie: I'd like to throw out the 6 MB of duplicated data files and instead add an example-contents dependency | 14:50 |
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| pitti | ttf-unfonts and git (via gettext) sorted out | 16:02 |
| pitti | so if someone feels like it, he can trigger a CD respin in about an hour, to see where we are | 16:02 |
| pitti | (I need to leave in about 15 mins) | 16:03 |
| pitti | otherwise tomorrow's dailies should be fine | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | apw: how did your investigations with VT handoff and plymouth go? | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I think best hold off on respins for a bit, since we're mid-kernel-ABI yet again | 16:16 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I won't do respins, I need to leave now | 16:16 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right now we are still consistently at -13 I think | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | yep | 16:16 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I pinged apw about whether -14 is for a3; if so, we need lmb and meta (and then of course seeds and di) | 16:17 |
| apw | cjwatson, i committed the kernel bits. i didn't bottom out on how to fix plymouth starting up too early | 16:17 |
| * pitti waves good bye then, see you tomorrow | 16:17 | |
| apw | pitti, yep -14 is meant for a3, and i am assuming ogasawara will upload those shortly (today) | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I just switched d-i to -14 | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | and seeds | 16:17 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, thanks | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | apw: I didn't think plymouth starting up early was a problem; I thought we agreed it should be running across the KMS switch, and redraw? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | apw: any progress on getting the bootloader/kernel bit of the interface upstream? I don't want to put it in grub until that | 16:19 |
| apw | not as yet, i was tied up last week finding and fixing some major races in framebuffer setup, which was preventing the new code from being testalbe | 16:21 |
| apw | cjwatson, as for plymouth redrawing, yes it should, and with all the patches in we can now survive it occuring, but plymouth isn't doing anything about the switch as yet | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | is there an event it can spot now? I guess the uevent for the new framebuffer appearing? | 16:23 |
| apw | yeah there is a new frambuffer appearing message | 16:23 |
| slangasek | ttx: hplip> really? why would you drop support for HP printers? If you're going to drop printing support, wouldn't you prefer to drop it all? | 16:27 |
| ttx | slangasek: why would we ship only HP drivers ? | 16:27 |
| slangasek | ttx: what do you mean, "only"? | 16:28 |
| ttx | I think hplip can be installed after the print server, *if* you happen to have an HP printer | 16:28 |
| slangasek | ttx: all the other packages in that seed are /also/ drivers | 16:28 |
| slangasek | so HP printers will be the only ones /not/ working out of the box, AFAICS | 16:28 |
| ttx | slangasek: hmm, you mean, the HP printers that require hplip | 16:29 |
| ttx | slangasek: but dropping it all might make sense as well | 16:29 |
| ttx | it's just that hplip pulls really crappy stuff on the server CD, like sane-backends or libgphoto2 | 16:30 |
| ttx | because you get much more than a printer driver... | 16:30 |
| slangasek | ah | 16:30 |
| slangasek | yes, sane-backends doesn't seem like a... sane thing to pull in via the printer seed | 16:31 |
| ttx | slangasek: but i'm open to all suggestions. I don't care so much either way :) | 16:31 |
| slangasek | so I understand why you would want to trim the seed, I just think doing it this way disadvantages HP printers | 16:31 |
| ttx | slangasek: most of the others end up being pulled by cups recommends | 16:32 |
| ttx | (like hpijs) | 16:32 |
| slangasek | ah | 16:32 |
| ttx | hplip notably deosn't, which makes it an easier removal. | 16:32 |
| slangasek | interesting, perhaps I should try removing hplip and testing whether printing still works | 16:32 |
| ttx | we could have a longer discussion on the pertinence of the print-server task | 16:32 |
| slangasek | (but can't do this week, because my printer is 3500 miles away and I won't be able to confirm whether paper was spit out ;) | 16:33 |
| ttx | slangasek: for A2 hplip was also the reason why the server CD was oversized, through some abusive depends | 16:33 |
| ttx | so I figured I could just get rid of the troublemaker :P | 16:34 |
| slangasek | no, java is the reason the CD was oversized, but I guess you don't want to cull that ;P | 16:34 |
| slangasek | (hplip was there first! ;) | 16:34 |
| ttx | slangasek: you as in me, or you as in the server team ? | 16:34 |
| slangasek | :-) | 16:34 |
| * ttx wonders if hplip is on the desktop ISO | 16:35 | |
| ttx | I seem to remember it showed up in the server packages because we were the only one to seed it | 16:36 |
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| slangasek | Task: ubuntu-desktop, print-server, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-netbook, edubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-netbook | 16:38 |
| ttx | another bug in http://ubuntuserverpkgsetreview.appspot.com/?offset=260 then | 16:39 |
| slangasek | well, I'm looking at lucid; perhaps it's changed in maverick, though that would be odd | 16:41 |
| slangasek | ttx: no, that page lists it as being in the desktop-common seed :) | 16:41 |
| ttx | slangasek: that page is supposed to ignore stuff that is seeded otherwise :) | 16:42 |
| slangasek | ah | 16:42 |
| ttx | or maybe it's just ignored when it's seeded in standard/minimal | 16:42 |
| ogasawara | apw, cjwatson: hrm, seems I don't have the permissions to upload linux-backports-modules-2.6.35 | 16:43 |
| ttx | slangasek: anyway, feel free to restore hplip in the seed if you find a better way to recover 5Mb | 16:43 |
| ogasawara | apw: I've got the package on zinc, could you try re-signing and uploading? | 16:43 |
| slangasek | ttx: if the drivers are all in hpijs, perhaps we don't need hplip at all; I'll do some testing next week to follow up | 16:44 |
| ttx | slangasek: fyi the server ISO is uninstallable right now, see my discussion with cjwatson ~3 hours ago | 16:44 |
| slangasek | ttx: apt-cdrom - ack | 16:47 |
| slangasek | I'll keep cjwatson supplied with coffee until it's fixed | 16:47 |
| ogasawara | apw: tgardner is uploading lbm for me | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | ogasawara: you should have permissions now | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | cjwatson: thanks | 17:02 |
| cjwatson | ttx: currently looking like an apt bug, but I'm still investigating | 17:33 |
| cjwatson | apt-cdrom finds the right directories but then apparently drops them | 17:33 |
| ogasawara | when an archive admin has a moment, could I get the linux (armel) and linux-backports-modules-2.6.35 (i386 and amd64) accepted from the New queue | 17:50 |
| Riddell | ogasawara: doing now | 17:58 |
| Riddell | running kernel-overrides will take an hour though | 17:58 |
| cjwatson | I'm already running kernel-overrides | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | so you can save some time by ctrl-c'ing it ;-) | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | it's up to irda-modules here | 18:00 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: is kernel-overrides still needed? seems like everything is in main | 18:23 |
| cjwatson | well, it is now because I just ran it :) | 18:25 |
| cjwatson | it all gets dumped into universe by default | 18:25 |
| cjwatson | accepted linux, anyway | 18:25 |
| Riddell | yes but in general it's a very slow way of putting the binaries into main, it's faster to copy and paste the binary package names and put them into a single queue override command | 18:26 |
| cjwatson | sure; although the slowness is a Launchpad bug ... | 18:26 |
| Riddell | I wonder if there's an actual bug open for that | 18:27 |
| cjwatson | I filed one several years ago, I think | 18:27 |
| * Riddell accepts linux-backports-modules | 18:28 | |
| charlie-tca | no kernel found in defined APT sources - xubuntu alternate 386 | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | That's bad, right? | 19:19 |
| cjwatson | charlie-tca: bug 612665 | 19:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 612665 in apt (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "apt-cdrom architecture match always fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612665 | 19:44 |
| cjwatson | ttx: ^- that's yours too | 19:44 |
| charlie-tca | thank you | 19:44 |
| pitti | ah, seems the kernel abi transition is done, wonderful | 19:57 |
| pitti | I'll build a new set of ubuntu alternates to see where we are size-wise | 19:59 |
| ScottK | No publisher run this hour? | 21:05 |
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| sbeattie | can one of the archive admins please take care of the phpbb3 package that's in binary NEW? It's been there since last week. | 23:11 |
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