[07:02] good morning [10:23] Server CD oversized again. I suggest dropping "hplip" in the print-server seed [10:26] cjwatson, pitti, slangasek: comments from release team welcome ^ [10:28] ttx: currently busy with unbreaking dpkg, will look later [10:29] ttx: but sure, please go ahead [11:20] done. [13:23] I need someone to kick the server for the Xubuntu daily images [13:23] Current server ISO fails after formatting with "Kernel override 'linux-server' not present" [13:24] How do we fix it? [13:24] Found kernels: '' [13:24] charlie-tca: it's a separate issue [13:24] (was not meant as an answer to you, sorry :) [13:25] Oh, okay [13:25] My error is - W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch [13:37] hmm, looks like my issue comes from uninstallable lvm2 [13:37] hm, or not. [13:38] no, that's a separate issue [13:40] pitti: what's wrong with dpkg? [13:40] cjwatson: it's fixed now [13:40] pitti: yes, but I uploaded dpkg so I'm interested [13:40] cjwatson: dpkg-builddeb crashed, which caused everything to FTBFS [13:40] cjwatson: bug 612457 [13:40] Launchpad bug 612457 in dpkg (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "1.15.8.2 regression: dpkg-deb segfaults (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612457 [13:40] I had it in the #devel topic, but removed it again [13:41] odd, I did test it with a double-build I'm sure :-/ [13:41] cjwatson: it used an sprintf() to fill an exactly allocated buffer without accounting for the extra NUL byte that sprintf() writes [13:41] that triggered the stack protector [13:41] I assume I can drop the workaround patches on the next merge [13:41] cjwatson: right, you can [13:41] cjwatson: I just needed it to get _that_ new dpkg built [13:41] i. e. it's the PATH setting in debian/rules [13:42] cjwatson: landed safely in NY? [13:42] charlie-tca: I've kicked a rebuild (without looking very hard) [13:42] ttx: full log? [13:43] pitti: yep, actually was training across from IL [13:43] cjwatson: train? over the Atlantic? [13:43] IL - i.e. Chicago [13:43] ah, Illinois, not Ireland, sorry :) [13:44] pitti: thanks for fixing that dpkg bug [13:44] cjwatson: you're welcome; was a fun morning :) [13:44] cjwatson: I wonder how best I can capture that [13:44] release-wise, I got the uninstallables on i386/amd64 all fixed except for lbm, but we got a new abi anyway [13:45] cjwatson: thank you [13:46] still fighting against CD overflows, and we have almost no langpack to chop off any more [13:48] cjwatson: pastebinning full log... [13:50] cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/472183/ [13:50] cjwatson: I can rerun it in English if need be. [13:51] there are a few translated messages in there, but they don't seem to apply to the issue directly. [14:06] apt-cdrom is unhappy; I'll have a look when I get to the venue and can update my images [14:08] cjwatson: ok, let me know if you want a bug about it, and if yes, under which package I should file it. [14:29] ok, I found three main culprits for the CD size explosion since alpha-2 [14:29] we started to ship git (+6.3 MB), checkbox now copies example-contents data (+6 MB), and ttf-unfonts-core balooned from 12.4 to 20 MB [14:29] so let's wade through that [14:50] sbeattie: do you have commit access to checkbox? [14:50] cr3 seems offline [14:50] sbeattie: I'd like to throw out the 6 MB of duplicated data files and instead add an example-contents dependency === ogra_ is now known as ogra [16:02] ttf-unfonts and git (via gettext) sorted out [16:02] so if someone feels like it, he can trigger a CD respin in about an hour, to see where we are [16:03] (I need to leave in about 15 mins) [16:08] otherwise tomorrow's dailies should be fine [16:14] apw: how did your investigations with VT handoff and plymouth go? [16:16] pitti: I think best hold off on respins for a bit, since we're mid-kernel-ABI yet again [16:16] cjwatson: I won't do respins, I need to leave now [16:16] cjwatson: right now we are still consistently at -13 I think [16:16] yep [16:17] cjwatson: I pinged apw about whether -14 is for a3; if so, we need lmb and meta (and then of course seeds and di) [16:17] cjwatson, i committed the kernel bits. i didn't bottom out on how to fix plymouth starting up too early [16:17] * pitti waves good bye then, see you tomorrow [16:17] pitti, yep -14 is meant for a3, and i am assuming ogasawara will upload those shortly (today) [16:17] pitti: I just switched d-i to -14 [16:17] and seeds [16:17] cjwatson: ah, thanks [16:18] apw: I didn't think plymouth starting up early was a problem; I thought we agreed it should be running across the KMS switch, and redraw? [16:19] apw: any progress on getting the bootloader/kernel bit of the interface upstream? I don't want to put it in grub until that [16:21] not as yet, i was tied up last week finding and fixing some major races in framebuffer setup, which was preventing the new code from being testalbe [16:22] cjwatson, as for plymouth redrawing, yes it should, and with all the patches in we can now survive it occuring, but plymouth isn't doing anything about the switch as yet [16:23] is there an event it can spot now? I guess the uevent for the new framebuffer appearing? [16:23] yeah there is a new frambuffer appearing message [16:27] ttx: hplip> really? why would you drop support for HP printers? If you're going to drop printing support, wouldn't you prefer to drop it all? [16:27] slangasek: why would we ship only HP drivers ? [16:28] ttx: what do you mean, "only"? [16:28] I think hplip can be installed after the print server, *if* you happen to have an HP printer [16:28] ttx: all the other packages in that seed are /also/ drivers [16:28] so HP printers will be the only ones /not/ working out of the box, AFAICS [16:29] slangasek: hmm, you mean, the HP printers that require hplip [16:29] slangasek: but dropping it all might make sense as well [16:30] it's just that hplip pulls really crappy stuff on the server CD, like sane-backends or libgphoto2 [16:30] because you get much more than a printer driver... [16:30] ah [16:31] yes, sane-backends doesn't seem like a... sane thing to pull in via the printer seed [16:31] slangasek: but i'm open to all suggestions. I don't care so much either way :) [16:31] so I understand why you would want to trim the seed, I just think doing it this way disadvantages HP printers [16:32] slangasek: most of the others end up being pulled by cups recommends [16:32] (like hpijs) [16:32] ah [16:32] hplip notably deosn't, which makes it an easier removal. [16:32] interesting, perhaps I should try removing hplip and testing whether printing still works [16:32] we could have a longer discussion on the pertinence of the print-server task [16:33] (but can't do this week, because my printer is 3500 miles away and I won't be able to confirm whether paper was spit out ;) [16:33] slangasek: for A2 hplip was also the reason why the server CD was oversized, through some abusive depends [16:34] so I figured I could just get rid of the troublemaker :P [16:34] no, java is the reason the CD was oversized, but I guess you don't want to cull that ;P [16:34] (hplip was there first! ;) [16:34] slangasek: you as in me, or you as in the server team ? [16:34] :-) [16:35] * ttx wonders if hplip is on the desktop ISO [16:36] I seem to remember it showed up in the server packages because we were the only one to seed it === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [16:38] Task: ubuntu-desktop, print-server, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-netbook, edubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-netbook [16:39] another bug in http://ubuntuserverpkgsetreview.appspot.com/?offset=260 then [16:41] well, I'm looking at lucid; perhaps it's changed in maverick, though that would be odd [16:41] ttx: no, that page lists it as being in the desktop-common seed :) [16:42] slangasek: that page is supposed to ignore stuff that is seeded otherwise :) [16:42] ah [16:42] or maybe it's just ignored when it's seeded in standard/minimal [16:43] apw, cjwatson: hrm, seems I don't have the permissions to upload linux-backports-modules-2.6.35 [16:43] slangasek: anyway, feel free to restore hplip in the seed if you find a better way to recover 5Mb [16:43] apw: I've got the package on zinc, could you try re-signing and uploading? [16:44] ttx: if the drivers are all in hpijs, perhaps we don't need hplip at all; I'll do some testing next week to follow up [16:44] slangasek: fyi the server ISO is uninstallable right now, see my discussion with cjwatson ~3 hours ago [16:47] ttx: apt-cdrom - ack [16:47] I'll keep cjwatson supplied with coffee until it's fixed [16:52] apw: tgardner is uploading lbm for me [17:02] ogasawara: you should have permissions now [17:02] cjwatson: thanks [17:33] ttx: currently looking like an apt bug, but I'm still investigating [17:33] apt-cdrom finds the right directories but then apparently drops them [17:50] when an archive admin has a moment, could I get the linux (armel) and linux-backports-modules-2.6.35 (i386 and amd64) accepted from the New queue [17:58] ogasawara: doing now [17:58] running kernel-overrides will take an hour though [18:00] I'm already running kernel-overrides [18:00] so you can save some time by ctrl-c'ing it ;-) [18:00] it's up to irda-modules here [18:23] cjwatson: is kernel-overrides still needed? seems like everything is in main [18:25] well, it is now because I just ran it :) [18:25] it all gets dumped into universe by default [18:25] accepted linux, anyway [18:26] yes but in general it's a very slow way of putting the binaries into main, it's faster to copy and paste the binary package names and put them into a single queue override command [18:26] sure; although the slowness is a Launchpad bug ... [18:27] I wonder if there's an actual bug open for that [18:27] I filed one several years ago, I think [18:28] * Riddell accepts linux-backports-modules [19:19] no kernel found in defined APT sources - xubuntu alternate 386 [19:19] That's bad, right? [19:44] charlie-tca: bug 612665 [19:44] Launchpad bug 612665 in apt (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "apt-cdrom architecture match always fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612665 [19:44] ttx: ^- that's yours too [19:44] thank you [19:57] ah, seems the kernel abi transition is done, wonderful [19:59] I'll build a new set of ubuntu alternates to see where we are size-wise [21:05] No publisher run this hour? === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [23:11] can one of the archive admins please take care of the phpbb3 package that's in binary NEW? It's been there since last week.