| ScottL | crimsun, jussi persia stochastic TheMuso : i would like to get your opinions on the network-admin bug #570828 | 02:25 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 570828 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "gnome-network-admin on UbuntuStudio doesnt allow to configure either wired networks or wireless" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570828 | 02:25 |
| ScottL | basically, the UI has been removed that allows network configuration because network-manager was implemented and they wanted only one place to make the configuration | 02:26 |
| ScottL | i have not had much luck in either fixing the problem or getting someone already involved to fix it | 02:26 |
| ScottL | so i was thinking that perhaps we should drop in network-manager as a replacement for network-admin in the last alpha and test it | 02:27 |
| ScottL | if we don't see too many adverse effects perhaps we might consider using network-manager as default | 02:27 |
| ScottL | thoughts? | 02:27 |
| crimsun | hmm. That's a tough one. I think replacing g-n-a with n-m is the way to go. | 02:33 |
| crimsun | In the end, if the issues lie in the kernel and in n-m, they need to be fixed for everyone. | 02:33 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: Agreed. We already ship nm-applet, not hard to move it to desktop. | 02:38 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: BTW, do you have a pointer to your ossproxy packaging anywhere? Would like to test/get it into maverick. | 02:38 |
| scott-work | it looks like the qjackctl ports-rename SRU is marked as "fix released"...yay | 13:13 |
| scott-work | thank you again crimsun for you help doing that :) | 13:13 |
| scott-work | it feels good to substantially improve the quality of the release for a LTS version | 13:13 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: did you know that phonon is installed on the ubuntu studio ISO? | 14:01 |
| falktx | hm, scott-work, really? | 14:02 |
| falktx | phonon is a qt/kde thing | 14:02 |
| scott-work | lol falktx i just posted in OSM to you | 14:02 |
| falktx | hehe, cool | 14:02 |
| scott-work | yeah, /pool/main/p/phonon/libphonon4_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb /pool/main/p/phonon/phonon-backend-xine_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb /pool/main/p/phonon/phonon_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 14:03 |
| scott-work | or in readable human english | 14:03 |
| falktx | oh, and xine as well I suppose | 14:03 |
| scott-work | libphonon4_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 14:03 |
| falktx | scott-work: look for xine too | 14:03 |
| scott-work | phonon-backend-xine_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 14:03 |
| scott-work | phonon_4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 14:03 |
| scott-work | hmmm, libxine1-bin_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb libxine1-console_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb libxine1-misc-plugins_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb libxine1-x_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb libxine1_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb | 14:04 |
| falktx | that's too bad for a gnome distro | 14:07 |
| falktx | which app is pulling those? | 14:07 |
| scott-work | i don't know and not sure how to find it other than hunt and peck | 14:08 |
| falktx | scott-work: any "kde" packages ? | 14:09 |
| falktx | kdelibs5 for example? | 14:09 |
| scott-work | falktx: no kde other than "disKDEfines" | 14:09 |
| scott-work | i'm guessing totem might be pulling xine in? | 14:10 |
| falktx | yep, i'm looking at the list now | 14:10 |
| falktx | totem has both gstreamer and xine backends | 14:10 |
| falktx | i'm sure it's not totem | 14:11 |
| falktx | probably qt libs instead | 14:11 |
| falktx | scott-work: do you have a recent install of ubuntustudio? | 14:11 |
| scott-work | i'm at work so not at the moment | 14:12 |
| falktx | you can easily check there which package is pulling the xine/phonon thing... | 14:12 |
| falktx | oh | 14:12 |
| falktx | i can install it now to test | 14:12 |
| falktx | downloading the latest iso, I'll install it on virtualbox and check this for you | 14:13 |
| scott-work | sweet :) | 14:16 |
| falktx | enterprise internet is awesome! | 14:16 |
| scott-work | lol | 14:16 |
| falktx | 1m to complete download | 14:16 |
| falktx | hehe, 7.0Mb/s | 14:17 |
| falktx | done, installing it now | 14:18 |
| scott-work | are you going to use 'rdepends' to find this? | 14:19 |
| falktx | synaptic | 14:20 |
| falktx | gui is better | 14:20 |
| falktx | scott-work: the installation failed, cannot find kernel | 15:01 |
| falktx | i'll try to install even without kernel, but that will cause issues of course | 15:02 |
| falktx | should be enough for this xine/phonon thing too | 15:02 |
| scott-work | hmmm, interesting that the kernel failed :( | 15:03 |
| falktx | another error about aptitude | 15:03 |
| falktx | "Can't exec 'aptitude': No such file or..." | 15:04 |
| falktx | afaik, aptitude was removed from default ubuntu installs | 15:04 |
| falktx | why does ubuntustudio still needs it? | 15:05 |
| falktx | installation failed! I'll try reinstall | 15:06 |
| falktx | scott-work: ubuntustudio is uninstallable | 15:15 |
| falktx | 1st error - cannot find kernel | 15:15 |
| falktx | 2nd error - trying to use aptitude while it's not installed anymore, gives errors after setting user password | 15:15 |
| falktx | the 2nd error is the worse, the installation just stops | 15:16 |
| falktx | I'll install the "command-line only" option, then checking the ubuntustudio packages to see what pushes phonon | 15:17 |
| falktx | scott-work: it seems like all ubuntu alternate cds are now broken... :(( | 15:22 |
| falktx | (maverick only, lucid is still fine) | 15:23 |
| scott-work | falktx: most disturbing, i wonder if the server ISO is broken also, i will download a daily of both server-alternate and ubuntustudio for maverick tonight and see | 15:29 |
| falktx | i think it's because of the aptitude removal | 15:30 |
| falktx | the kernel not found i'm not sure | 15:31 |
| scott-work | this might be slightly bad since we are scheduled to release the next alpha ISO this Friday i think | 15:39 |
| scott-work | i wonder if this is a problem with installing in VM or just a problem holistically | 15:43 |
| falktx | the aptitude error is bad, i'm sure it will happen to everyone | 15:43 |
| scott-work | i wonder if this is a transitory problem, it would surprise me if no one thought about this being a problem at Canonical or with one of the core-devs involved | 15:44 |
| falktx | probably ubuntu changed the aptitude thing on their alternate cds | 15:47 |
| falktx | for what i can tell, scripts are ran when installing from an alternate cd | 15:48 |
| falktx | one of those scripts has "aptitude" in line 2 | 15:48 |
| falktx | since aptitude is no longer in ubuntu-minimal package (installed before the kernel), | 15:49 |
| falktx | everything else will fail for those who depends on aptitude | 15:49 |
| scott-work | falktx: you downloaded from the daily? | 16:56 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes, daily/current | 16:58 |
| * abogani_ waves | 21:57 | |
| scott-work | hi abogani :) | 22:26 |
| holstein | w00t | 22:32 |
| * holstein started using abogani 's kernel PPA | 22:32 | |
| scott-work | hi holstein :) | 22:33 |
| scott-work | bye holstein :) | 22:33 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: Yes, kde apps pull it in. | 22:53 |
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