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sensegood morning07:49
thorwilgood morning sense07:53
Cimidavidbarth: rxcating as always09:17
Cimi*exciting09:17
Cimiand today, the sun is shining incredible :)09:17
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mkarnickiHi guys! Anyone from the desing team that got my recent mail about design feedback for AndroidU1 :) ?13:05
mkarnickiI'm developing Android client for Ubuntu One file sync. I don't have Ubuntu Member status, but it would be nice if I could use official Ubuntu Font for the app header13:06
mkarnicki(Sorry for little off-topic, but I hope to find few people from the Design Team here :) )13:07
vishiainfarrell , ivanka ^^13:07
mkarnickithanks vish :)13:07
iainfarrellhi mkarnicki13:07
mkarnickihi iainfarrell :)13:07
iainfarrellI'm the project manager on the design team13:08
mkarnickiwhoooa awesome :)13:08
mkarnickiI'm pleased to meet you here13:08
iainfarrelllikewise :)13:08
mkarnicki:)13:08
mkarnickiI'm looking for some feedback/tips/help from the design team13:08
iainfarrellthe font is still in beta so I can't give you the font just now unless you're a member, however it'll be going wider very soon13:08
iainfarrellas far as feedback is concerned13:08
mkarnickiI see13:08
iainfarrellwe may be able to help13:08
mkarnicki(I hope to get developer status in few months hehe ;))13:09
iainfarrellbut we'll need to get our hands on a spare handset :)13:09
iainfarrellis it on the marketplace yet?13:09
mkarnickiright ^ ^ that would be indeed useful13:09
mkarnickino, but I can direct you to the .apk and current screenshots/source13:09
iainfarrellor can we run on a vm of some sort?13:09
iainfarrellahh ok13:09
iainfarrellthat would be handy13:09
mkarnickiiainfarrell: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndroidU113:09
iainfarrell:)13:09
mkarnickiiainfarrell: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndroidU1/screenshots13:09
mkarnickiiainfarrell: and yes, you could run it in an emulator, but I would need to help one of you just a bit to set things up13:10
iainfarrellok13:10
iainfarrellwell let me talk to the U1 guys here13:10
iainfarrellin the meantime13:10
mkarnickisure :) that'd be great13:10
iainfarrellif you give me your e-mail address13:10
iainfarrellI can see if I can get someone to get in touch with you13:10
mkarnickiiainfarrell: the best person to talk to is aquarius (Stuart Langridge) - he's my mentor on the project, so he's up to date with things13:11
mkarnickiiainfarrell: mkarnicki @gmail.com13:11
mkarnicki:)13:11
iainfarrellahh cool13:11
iainfarrellI will tap him up then13:11
mkarnickiiainfarrell: that'd be great, thank you :)13:11
thorwilhi mkarnicki! just a quick note: "The application will now use the browser to securely log you in to your personal cloud storage" is in conflict with the login button. it's already-happening vs make-happen13:12
thorwilmkarnicki: it seems to me like that message does not contain information a user should care for, anyway13:13
mkarnickithorwil: prompt feedback, thanks :) How can I improve that?13:14
mkarnickithorwil: oh.. but the user may not expect a browser pop up13:14
mkarnickithorwil: we'll have the new browserless API in few months, but for now, we're using OAuth (in it's real, browser-form) and it's not common for users to log in to an application via the browser13:14
mkarnickithorwil: so I'll be happy what you think I could change :)13:15
mkarnicki*happy to hear13:15
mkarnickiPS I have to update the screenshots. I have things like 'a moment ago' / 'less then 2 days ago' instead of the dates, etc13:16
thorwilmkarnicki: right, the user may not expect a browser popup. i sure didn't looking at the screenshot13:17
mkarnickithorwil: not your fault, sorry! there's no browser on the screenshot13:18
mkarnickithorwil: one sec, I think I have some more13:18
thorwilmkarnicki: turn button label into "Launch browser to log into your account", perhaps13:18
mkarnickithorwil: http://android-u1.blogspot.com/search/label/screenshots13:19
mkarnickithorwil: I see. would 'Launch browser to log in' suffice? I wouldn't want the text on the button to be a two-liner ;)13:19
thorwilmkarnicki: if it established beforehand what this ubuntu one app is about, 'Launch browser to log in' should be fine13:21
mkarnickithorwil: yes. perfect :)13:21
thorwilthough don't be afraid of long button labels, they can be a much better solution than split explanation and labels, as that often leads to redundancy13:22
mkarnickiaha, I see13:22
mkarnickiiainfarrell: mail sent :)13:22
thorwilmkarnicki: on http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RF4X7KUEkGc/TFGqBCdgkxI/AAAAAAAAA5M/mOLbHNtBoKc/s800/0.2.13pa1-05.png does "Complete action using" help?13:24
mkarnickithorwil: it's an Android default. to this actually users are used to. it shows up when user has possibility to13:25
thorwilmkarnicki: could you replace the generic "Action" with a specific one, for example "View"?13:25
mkarnickithorwil: choose out of his/her apps that has installed, which one to use13:25
thorwilmkarnicki: ok, nm then13:25
mkarnickiI could substitute the whole dilog, but that would turn a one-liner into 30 lines of code perhaps, and here it's a native Android behaviour, so I think it's along the UI guidelines for Android here.13:26
mkarnickithorwil: but keep on going, I'm happy to hear constructive critique :)13:26
thorwilmkarnicki: consider to replace "Downloading" notifications with something you can put right next or below item titles13:27
mkarnickithorwil: sorry, I will update that screen ^ ^ It's under the item currently :)13:27
mkarnickithorwil: good catch though!13:28
thorwilheh13:28
mkarnickiI think I should update them now :D13:28
* mkarnicki heads to update the screens13:28
mkarnickithorwil: sorry I had my screens not updated, it's a one man project and it's hard to keep up with everything :( I'm making them right now. Plus, I think I did find a way to change the 'Complete action using' like u suggested, so I'm fixing that, too.13:53
thorwilmkarnicki: no worries13:53
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diekiThere hasn't been any implementation work on Windicators yet, and feature freeze is almost here; have they been postponed to Maverick+1?14:50
diekiThere hasn't been any implementation work on Windicators yet, and feature15:50
dieki+freeze is almost here; have they been postponed to Maverick+1?15:50
vishdieki: has there been a plan to implement it for Maverick?15:51
diekivish: Mark's blog post said it was intended for Maverick.15:53
diekivish: But there never was a blueprint, AFAIK.15:53
diekivish: So it is not happening for Maverick?15:55
vishdieki: afaik , nothing solid is being planned for maverick , but i dont work in the top secret Canonical Labs , so you never know ;)15:56
diekivish: Alright, thanks. :)15:57
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