=== gambs is now known as Ckikinit === Ckikinit is now known as gambs === gambs is now known as Gesta === Gesta is now known as gambs [07:49] good morning [07:53] good morning sense [09:17] davidbarth: rxcating as always [09:17] *exciting [09:17] and today, the sun is shining incredible :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:05] Hi guys! Anyone from the desing team that got my recent mail about design feedback for AndroidU1 :) ? [13:06] I'm developing Android client for Ubuntu One file sync. I don't have Ubuntu Member status, but it would be nice if I could use official Ubuntu Font for the app header [13:07] (Sorry for little off-topic, but I hope to find few people from the Design Team here :) ) [13:07] iainfarrell , ivanka ^^ [13:07] thanks vish :) [13:07] hi mkarnicki [13:07] hi iainfarrell :) [13:08] I'm the project manager on the design team [13:08] whoooa awesome :) [13:08] I'm pleased to meet you here [13:08] likewise :) [13:08] :) [13:08] I'm looking for some feedback/tips/help from the design team [13:08] the font is still in beta so I can't give you the font just now unless you're a member, however it'll be going wider very soon [13:08] as far as feedback is concerned [13:08] I see [13:08] we may be able to help [13:09] (I hope to get developer status in few months hehe ;)) [13:09] but we'll need to get our hands on a spare handset :) [13:09] is it on the marketplace yet? [13:09] right ^ ^ that would be indeed useful [13:09] no, but I can direct you to the .apk and current screenshots/source [13:09] or can we run on a vm of some sort? [13:09] ahh ok [13:09] that would be handy [13:09] iainfarrell: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndroidU1 [13:09] :) [13:09] iainfarrell: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndroidU1/screenshots [13:10] iainfarrell: and yes, you could run it in an emulator, but I would need to help one of you just a bit to set things up [13:10] ok [13:10] well let me talk to the U1 guys here [13:10] in the meantime [13:10] sure :) that'd be great [13:10] if you give me your e-mail address [13:10] I can see if I can get someone to get in touch with you [13:11] iainfarrell: the best person to talk to is aquarius (Stuart Langridge) - he's my mentor on the project, so he's up to date with things [13:11] iainfarrell: mkarnicki @gmail.com [13:11] :) [13:11] ahh cool [13:11] I will tap him up then [13:11] iainfarrell: that'd be great, thank you :) [13:12] hi mkarnicki! just a quick note: "The application will now use the browser to securely log you in to your personal cloud storage" is in conflict with the login button. it's already-happening vs make-happen [13:13] mkarnicki: it seems to me like that message does not contain information a user should care for, anyway [13:14] thorwil: prompt feedback, thanks :) How can I improve that? [13:14] thorwil: oh.. but the user may not expect a browser pop up [13:14] thorwil: we'll have the new browserless API in few months, but for now, we're using OAuth (in it's real, browser-form) and it's not common for users to log in to an application via the browser [13:15] thorwil: so I'll be happy what you think I could change :) [13:15] *happy to hear [13:16] PS I have to update the screenshots. I have things like 'a moment ago' / 'less then 2 days ago' instead of the dates, etc [13:17] mkarnicki: right, the user may not expect a browser popup. i sure didn't looking at the screenshot [13:18] thorwil: not your fault, sorry! there's no browser on the screenshot [13:18] thorwil: one sec, I think I have some more [13:18] mkarnicki: turn button label into "Launch browser to log into your account", perhaps [13:19] thorwil: http://android-u1.blogspot.com/search/label/screenshots [13:19] thorwil: I see. would 'Launch browser to log in' suffice? I wouldn't want the text on the button to be a two-liner ;) [13:21] mkarnicki: if it established beforehand what this ubuntu one app is about, 'Launch browser to log in' should be fine [13:21] thorwil: yes. perfect :) [13:22] though don't be afraid of long button labels, they can be a much better solution than split explanation and labels, as that often leads to redundancy [13:22] aha, I see [13:22] iainfarrell: mail sent :) [13:24] mkarnicki: on http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RF4X7KUEkGc/TFGqBCdgkxI/AAAAAAAAA5M/mOLbHNtBoKc/s800/0.2.13pa1-05.png does "Complete action using" help? [13:25] thorwil: it's an Android default. to this actually users are used to. it shows up when user has possibility to [13:25] mkarnicki: could you replace the generic "Action" with a specific one, for example "View"? [13:25] thorwil: choose out of his/her apps that has installed, which one to use [13:25] mkarnicki: ok, nm then [13:26] I could substitute the whole dilog, but that would turn a one-liner into 30 lines of code perhaps, and here it's a native Android behaviour, so I think it's along the UI guidelines for Android here. [13:26] thorwil: but keep on going, I'm happy to hear constructive critique :) [13:27] mkarnicki: consider to replace "Downloading" notifications with something you can put right next or below item titles [13:27] thorwil: sorry, I will update that screen ^ ^ It's under the item currently :) [13:28] thorwil: good catch though! [13:28] heh [13:28] I think I should update them now :D [13:28] * mkarnicki heads to update the screens [13:53] thorwil: sorry I had my screens not updated, it's a one man project and it's hard to keep up with everything :( I'm making them right now. Plus, I think I did find a way to change the 'Complete action using' like u suggested, so I'm fixing that, too. [13:53] mkarnicki: no worries === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:50] There hasn't been any implementation work on Windicators yet, and feature freeze is almost here; have they been postponed to Maverick+1? [15:50] There hasn't been any implementation work on Windicators yet, and feature [15:50] +freeze is almost here; have they been postponed to Maverick+1? [15:51] dieki: has there been a plan to implement it for Maverick? [15:53] vish: Mark's blog post said it was intended for Maverick. [15:53] vish: But there never was a blueprint, AFAIK. [15:55] vish: So it is not happening for Maverick? [15:56] dieki: afaik , nothing solid is being planned for maverick , but i dont work in the top secret Canonical Labs , so you never know ;) [15:57] vish: Alright, thanks. :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|break === apachelogger is now known as gnomelogger