[00:20] Unity is turning out pretty cool [00:20] aaaaaaand it just thrashed to it's death [00:20] and it's bank. [00:20] *bank [00:22] hm, shouldn't file roller have an application menu entry? it does seem to have a .desktop file, but I don't see it in the Applications menu here in kde [00:23] (the debian menu entry is there) [00:25] yofel, isn't there a menu editor program in which you can disable those entries? [00:29] I think its hidden by default. [00:30] hm, what's the name of the gnome menu editor? I can't find it anywhere in the kde menu editor [00:30] alacarte [00:30] thx [00:33] BUGabundo, did you find out what the story is with the html5 chromium issue? [00:34] no [00:34] let me restest [00:34] and now it works [00:34] pff [00:34] long live dailys [00:55] Daekdroom, Pici, thanks for the help, seems like the kde menu doesn't like hidden entries... [01:00] bjsnider: spoke to soon [01:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDp1MGlfGQ8 won't open [02:02] Hi good people, whilst I'm sure I have seen this before, is there still usb 1.1 support in the new kernel? [02:19] phillw: I would assume, yeah [02:19] phillw: I don't know for sure, but I'd think so. [02:21] hmm, yeah it does appear to, but a 1.1 hard drive (external device) is failing as ehci_hcd (the usb 2?) is not allowing the ohci (1.1 ?) to have a try :-\ [02:22] Argh, brightness control doesn't work on Intel OR fglrx on Maverick! [02:22] http://pastebin.com/XizgXJmd [02:22] that's on fglrx. [02:24] It randomly starts saying "no hardware support" [02:24] DanaG: it works here on mavericks :( [02:24] The notify-osd indicator isn't correct, however [02:25] Works with my ati open drivers here. [02:25] Hmm, for me, brightness has NEVER worked with the open drivers. [02:25] No xrandr brightness support. [02:27] - executing /usr/sbin/gnome-power-backlight-helper --get-brightness retval: 0 - failed to set using xrandr, falling back to HAL - no hardware support [02:27] Wait, how the heck is "helper" "using HAL"? [02:27] Or rather, xrandr? [02:28] Helper doesn't use xrandr.... that's bogus. the xrandr module uses xrandr. [02:28] Helper uses /sys/class/backlight directly! [02:31] hi all. I cant get to #ubuntu because I am banned for some reason (I think I said something that was supposedly inappropriate about a month ago and I am still banned) so I'll ask here in hopes that someone knows the answer. [02:32] Does anyone know why empathy wont connect to MSN most of the time? [02:33] because they both suck [02:33] my own issue: bug 534677 [02:33] Launchpad bug 534677 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Broken backlight control with Radeon open-source drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534677 [02:39] ARGH. [02:40] sTUPID brightness control. [02:40] It works a few times, then randomly decides to quit working. [02:40] well at least the release a fix for compiz [02:40] :) [02:41] ys/ting? [02:41] arg [02:42] stupid touchpad scroll. [02:42] And stupid g-p-m. [02:42] It uses the gpm backlight helper (that uses hardcoded paths in /sys/class/backlight, and by the way, happens to miss "samsung")... and then complains that "setting brightness using xrandr failed". [02:42] That makes no sense... how can setting via xrandr fail, when that's not even what it's trying to use? [02:43] That's like saying "failed to find ice cream in the freezer" when you walked over to the cabinets and pulled out a box of cereal. [02:44] Or something like that. [02:45] Or rather, it's like complaining about "ice cream" in "freezer" when you look for, and don't find, the cereal. [02:46] great, now I'm craving ice cream. [03:01] Okay, now it's even weirder: it seems the brightness controls only break exactly when I hit minimum or maximum brightness. [03:24] is kubuntu-netbook iso dead? last update was 7/7 [03:32] !freetype2 [03:36] KukuNut: it has been incorporated into the regular iso, and will automatically configure a Kubuntu Netbook install if it detects you are on a netbook. You can change this after the install by changing the workspace type in the Workspace module of System Settings [03:39] JontheEchidna: thanks. [03:40] ▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█ [06:18] Bleargh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591 [06:18] Launchpad bug 612591 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Kernel treats 3-button touchpad as 1-button ClickPad" [Undecided,New] [06:40] I just read a (old) blog post on sun about how dynamic linking isnt all that its touted to be : http://blogs.sun.com/rvs/entry/what_does_dynamic_linking_and . Kinda interesting if you ship all dependencies with the software (self contained in a directory) - no more messing around with dependencies [07:47] Do a lot of you run ubuntu server? [08:38] hello which are the major differences between ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 10.10 [08:38] ? [08:40] you probably have to google for different articles regarding that, http://news.downloadatoz.com/ubuntu-10-10-will-apply-default-programs-20100515.html is one of them [08:44] i guess i will stick to the LTS [08:44] i dont see a mjor difference [08:45] I'd some people will move in order to get the 2.6.35 kernel for hardware support [10:18] new font is so tight [10:18] thunderbird has never looks so sexy. [10:57] wow [10:58] this gtk bug has never been worse :( [11:21] hello [11:21] http://pastebin.org/444812 [11:21] Wow. [11:21] anyone know where I could find and fix this? [11:22] ah [11:22] and I don't really see anything that shouldn't be there [11:23] http://pastebin.org/444819 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:07] I manually removed those lines from the file(s) [13:07] and it seems to be working now [13:07] looks like an interrupted update [13:10] Ian_corne: I got that too [13:10] blame oracle :P [13:10] like they did with their sign keys [13:10] I also had to manually delete the lines from the file, and then it worked fine [13:30] Anyone else having the issue where the sound gets muted after an reboot? [13:31] And if not, what package should be reported when creating a bug report? [14:09] I just got a bunch of these "N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.distUpgrade' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension" when I rean gn update [14:09] they were all for different files [14:09] I ran a purge and a clean and they are still there [14:10] should I just go in there and delete those files manually? [14:22] TommyThaGun: see bug 611925 [14:22] Launchpad bug 611925 in apt (Ubuntu) "sources are not recognized " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611925 [14:28] hey, this is my first time testing and i'm a bit confused by the output after when running dist-upgrade - http://nopaste.info/4564a7b527.html [14:28] I do understand what it says, just wondering if anyone could explain to me why that happens. [14:31] bblaze: Its just the current state of the archives. Usually in cases like that I just hit 'n' until it gives me a solution that leaves all affected packages unupgraded. [14:31] Which in this case would end up upgrading nothing. [14:31] Not all packages get updated at the same time, when you are using the development version. [14:33] Hello. Can I install the system onto a btrfs filesystem from the alternate installer? [14:33] Ah, i see. That's what I figured at first, but the thought that maybe there's some lumping together of packages or renaming going on crept into my mind as well [14:33] alright, thanks then! [14:33] And depends how up to date the mirror is as well [14:34] yofel, thanks. So basically, it can just be ignored it sounds like. [14:34] well.. [14:34] sorta [14:34] nothing has broken at least [14:35] my system is not going to fall apart because of this [14:35] napsy_: yes, but I think you need a separate non-btrfs boot partition for grub [14:35] nope, it's just that apt started warning about this now [14:35] oh ok [14:56] is there a metacity app/plugin to tile selectable windows? [15:07] found x-tile [15:07] http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/X+Tile?content=99624 [15:08] anyone wants to package it ? [15:37] mauahha [15:37] only does 4 way split [15:37] I need at least 8 [15:40] * charlie-tca thinks BUGabundo_remote is getting greedy now [15:53] charlie-tca: really big screen [15:53] need to split my chat windows [15:54] If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. [15:54] yup [15:54] I really like the "if it doesn't, it does NOT" phrase [15:55] ahah [15:55] that one is nice [17:46] !aero [17:46] !snap [18:12] Getting this over and over while updating: (gtk-update-icon-cache:10051): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory [18:30] alot of AppArmor warnings :P === dean is now known as deanimean [20:43] i am looking for gnome-db in maverick [20:43] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mergeant/0.66-1 [20:43] does only to exsist in gutsy.. [20:44] mergeant existed until karmic [20:45] what happened with it? [20:45] not sure, it was removed from debian too, maybe unmaintained [20:45] damn [20:45] postgre-sql is broken atm [20:46] so i don'T really have a way to manage my database [20:47] debian #561366 [20:47] Debian bug 561366 in ftp.debian.org "RM: mergeant -- ROM; unmaintained, obsolete; depends on libgnomedb3" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/561366 [20:47] thanks Pici [20:47] is there another gui tool for postgre in ubuntu? [20:55] !info pgadmin3 [20:55] pgadmin3 (source: pgadmin3): graphical administration tool for PostgreSQL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.3-1 (maverick), package size 2010 kB, installed size 6808 kB [20:55] DrHalan: Perhaps that? I just found it with apt-cache search [20:56] thats the one that is broken in maverick atm [20:56] oh [20:56] heh [20:56] because it depens on wxwidgets and the packages changed a little [20:57] ill try to debian packages [20:57] Wait for a fix? You shouldn't be using Maverick on production machines anyway. [20:57] well the bug is reported for some tme [20:57] i like using unstable systems. [21:04] anyone got fglrx working yet? [21:04] using nvidia sorry [21:05] isnt fglrx always a pain? :) [21:06] It is [21:06] why not use the os drivers? [21:06] I do now [21:06] but they're not good enough if I want to play a 3D game [21:08] Ian_corne, ati always releases an driver for ubuntu just before release [21:08] thats what i always experienced when i had ati [21:08] thats why i switched to nvidia :) [21:09] at least they support open source drivers [21:09] Question, what is the best way to update your system in ubuntu+1, via the update-manager (which seems to eat a lot of cpu when starting lately) or via apt-get update? [21:10] JoshuaL: the startup problem is a cairo bug/problem [21:10] JoshuaL: doesn't matter, all should work [21:10] if you switch your theme it should go away (or at least get massively better) [21:10] yofel, and what if it asks for partial upgrade? [21:11] JoshuaL: errr, BAD, there's a forum thread with a good explenation about that, let me look for it [21:11] JoshuaL: I stick with ati, they OS driver is miles better [21:11] JoshuaL: you have to use apt-get dist-upgrade [21:11] yofel, i usually ignore it and wait a day lol [21:11] and the hardware/cost is better [21:11] but it really is up to you how you update your system.. [21:12] I use safe-upgrade untill they fix the package wreckage [21:13] JoshuaL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479146 [21:14] yofel, ty [21:14] safe-upgrade sometimes doesn't dare to remove package0 to replace with pacakge1 [21:34] anyone else having dbus errors when upgrading ? [21:34] Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 [21:35] I'm getting these messages after doing an apt-get update.. is there a way to fix things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/472797/ [21:36] cjohnston: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/611925 [21:36] Launchpad bug 611925 in apt (Ubuntu) "sources are not recognized " [Undecided,Confirmed] [21:37] awesome [21:37] thanks yofel [21:41] i had this too a few days ago, but i removed the .save files because i dont need them [21:41] pvandewyngaerde, what do those do? [21:42] i dont know [21:42] pvandewyngaerde: did that fix it? [21:42] or did that cause more problems? [21:43] I removed them and my system looks fine. [21:43] I did that yesterday, did a few upgrades since. === uRock is now known as I_am_eating_pizz === I_am_eating_pizz is now known as I_b_eating_pizza === I_b_eating_pizza is now known as uRock [22:27] :/ a couple of times I've not been able to escape the fade-out to screensaver [22:28] Wiggle the mouse and hit stuff but it just keeps fading ⢁( === jenkins is now known as ubuntujenkins === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins [23:09] does anyone know if there has been a comparison chart of putting putting files in the U1 folder ver. linking. Im trying a few files both ways and trying which way is convenient if thats the correct word to use. Im sure something will come together after using it for awhile [23:13] I guess if your linking a bunch of files you'd better keep a record of them cause they could be scattered all over in your docs. where as putting them in U1 folder they are all gathered together for easier find