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thorwilgood morning!07:45
thorwilanybody got links to the kubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu logos at hand?08:48
thorwilgot kubuntu and edubuntu via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official08:52
thorwilexcept edubuntu has a new logo, too08:53
thorwilxubuntu down thanks to http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=323108:55
thorwilkwwii: the updated edubuntu logo uses the old CoF geometry. maybe your or a colleague should have a talk with them? :)   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Artwork/LucidBranding?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=edubuntu+_150.jpg09:03
thorwilgood morning iainfarrell, vish09:18
vishthorwil: morning :)09:19
iainfarrellmorning thorwil and vish09:19
knomehey iainfarrell, thorwil, vish09:20
thorwilknome: hi! why is there a complete mouse in the new xubuntu logo svg, instead of just the part in the circle?09:22
vishthorwil , the logo updater!09:23
vish:D09:23
thorwilvish: i'm ... troubled by this comment: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/full-circle-magazine-logo/#comment-315509:23
vish:(09:25
knomethorwil, because that's a draft originally09:25
vishthorwil: until recently the xubuntu logo didnt get approved , doctormo's recent svg blog kinda finalized it ;)09:26
knomethorwil, i probably should give the team a hand and fix it, in addition to tweaking the colors a bit09:26
vish svgs of logos* blog09:28
thorwilvish: i'm a bit torn between only presenting work that i would be fine with if used and following "client" ideas and requests. well, i'm about to recreate the full circle clusterfuck logo in the modern way :/09:28
thorwilin the hope everybody will see it's the lesser option09:29
knomevish, until recently, nobody was trying to get the xubuntu logo approved09:29
vishknome: true ;)09:29
thorwilknome: i don't have to expect changes to that mouse?09:30
knomeand as we can see, it still slipped out too early09:30
knomethorwil, you have all the rights not to expect anything ;)09:30
thorwilheh09:30
knomethorwil, but ugh, yes, i'll probably tweak the mouse before maverick .P09:31
knome+another eye09:31
* thorwil still thinks his mouse could beat that mouse even if blindfolded09:31
knomethat's now out of my scope - i wasn't involved in the selection of that logo over the others even the slightest bit. i just heard this is now official09:32
knomethat's why it also slipped out unpolished09:32
knomedidn't know of the process09:32
thorwilknome: i don't blame you. what a sad case of failure to talk09:34
knomeit's sad i didn't know, but i also honestly think the chosen logo is not as bad as you think it is09:35
knomei understand that your version was more compatible in small sizes, but you have to get over the attitude your work is always better :P09:36
thorwilknome: i don't have the attitude that my work is always better. if you want the charm of a kids drawing the xubuntu mouse is ok.09:40
knomethe mouse is the xfce mouse09:40
thorwilit's pretty much both now09:40
knomeyou're free to convince charlie-tca, the xubuntu leader, of that09:41
knomei am not deciding on anything about that anymore.09:41
thorwiluseless now that the given logo has been presented as official09:42
knomeyou can always change that.09:43
knomexubuntu is not as stiff as ubuntu is.09:43
knomeespecially now that it's not yet been in a release yet09:43
knomeor the xubuntu website09:43
vishthorwil: "presented" , was just since doctormo thought it was official , and once it was blogged , charlie just said , ok lets use it09:44
thorwilheh, the kubuntu logo svg is not 3 shapes on one circle. the implied inner circle _is_ another circle09:52
* thorwil hugs boolean ops09:52
thorwilnot that i would want to influence people, but i wouldn't mind comments especially in favor of not using the last option presented at http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/full-circle-magazine-logo-2/ :)11:51
cjohnstonkwwii: ping15:09
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thorwilvish: seems like actually creating that hodge-podge logo for comparison worked out: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/full-circle-magazine-logo-2/#comment-318419:55
vishthorwil: \o/19:57
vishthorwil: gonna to add some spears along with that ? ;p19:59
thorwilvish: no, as i replied there, it would look like a recycle or reload symbol :/20:00
vishthorwil: yeah , 1 is seems saner , wonder why he wants it to /not/ be about a circle :)20:01
vishthorwil: actually you did a pretty decent mashup for 3, but it wont make sense if it is smaller ;)20:02
thorwilvish: mashup is a nice work. btw, i found out that the kubuntu logo is full of unintentional asymmetry20:04
thorwilif you take one of the segments and flip it around to compare it with itself, you see it doesn't match. the halves are not identical.20:05
thorwilvarying length of the gaps between the teeth can be seen with the naked eye, if you just zoom in enough20:06
vishthorwil: i think some one from the kubuntu team did that , seems to be not design's team work.. their splash too20:07
thorwilvish: isn't it sad that someone who clearly does not know how to do it would not ask for help?20:07
vishthorwil: :) , one reason might be that they didnt have time before release and after release they didnt care much ;p20:08
vishthorwil: didnt have time to call out for help ..20:10
vishthorwil: they are lucky to have decided to go with most of the artwork from upstream :D20:11
thorwilwell, lets hope the kubuntu projects spins smoothly, even with a broken-in-more-than-one-way cog as logo :)20:14
thorwili guess some would call be obsessive, anyway :)20:15

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