[07:07] <ara> good morning all!
[07:13] <ara> buenos días, dpm
[07:13] <dpm> hola ara! Ya estás de vuelta?
[07:14] <ara> dpm, me temo que sí :(
[07:16] <dpm> :) bueno, fue todo bien?
[07:17] <dpm> and good morning everyone!
[07:17] <ara> dpm, muy bien, muy bien
[07:18] <dpm> :-)
[07:23] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:30] <dpm> morning czajkowski
[07:33] <czajkowski> dpm: hey there
[07:36] <nigelb> morning ara, dpm and czajkowski :)
[07:37] <ara> hey nigelb!
[07:39] <dpm> morning nigelb
[07:45] <nigelb> dpm: somone I met at the local ubuntu hour was very keen on working with fonts.
[07:46] <nigelb> I'll send him your way soon :)
[07:46] <nigelb> fonts =  fonts for localization
[07:46] <dpm> nigelb, ok sounds good :)
[07:48] <sense> good morning everyone!
[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[07:49] <dholbach> hola ara - back again?
[07:49] <dholbach> ara: how was your trip? :)
[07:49] <ara> hey dholbach, yes, back again. It was very nice :)
[07:49]  * dholbach hugs ara
[07:50]  * ara hugs dholbach back
[07:50] <dholbach> ara: did you bring the rain to Berlin or was it somebody else? :)
[07:50]  * ara is not guilty 
[07:50] <sense> As long as it stays in Berlin...
[07:50] <dholbach> well, it's more drizzling than raining :)
[07:51] <ara> I am happy with it, it was too hot in Spain :)
[07:52] <czajkowski> ara: you should move to Ireland, definately not too hot
[07:52] <czajkowski> so GUADEC in Berlin next year
[07:52] <dholbach> czajkowski: ccm was involved in the discussions there :)
[07:52] <czajkowski> ahh :)
[07:58] <sense> I was speculating with someone whether the next GUADEC would be in Brazil next year, but then I realised there was an E in GUADEC and everything made sense again.
[07:59] <dpm> morning dholbach, morning sense
[07:59] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:59] <sense> good morning dpm
[08:00] <sense> Spain (and Portugal), I think, is the only country in the EU with a proper summer right now.
[08:00] <sense> Typical.
[08:00] <nigelb> sense: e?
[08:01] <sense> nigelb: We have some sun here as well, but of course Spain and Portugal are having the real summer temperatures. I think they stole it from us, we had warmer weather a few weaks ago as well!
[08:01] <sense> Wait, nigelb: shouldn't you be in bed right now?
[08:02] <nigelb> sense: Its lunch time!
[08:02] <sense> ah, time zone the other way around
[08:02] <nigelb> sense: I was asking about the "E in GUADEC"
[08:02] <sense> Of course, it's the oriental.
[08:02] <sense> nigelb: GNOME Users' And Developers' EUROPEAN Conference
[08:02] <nigelb> ah, European :D
[08:03]  * nigelb waves to dholbach 
[08:03] <sense> Brazil was a European possession a while ago, but certainly not anymore.
[08:03] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:03] <nigelb> sense: don't get kicked :D
[08:03] <nigelb> sense: its like suggesting USA "used to be european" :p
[08:04] <sense> nigelb: I didn't say it was European, I said Europeans claimed it as their possession!
[08:04] <nigelb> sense: lol
[08:04] <sense> You can't really say that India was British either, it has always been Indian. But it was a British possession for a while, absurdly.
[08:05] <nigelb> heh
[08:05] <sense> nigelb: Because otherwise that would mean your ancestors were British!
[08:05] <sense> and that Mayalayam is a former British language, like Welsh
[08:06] <nigelb> sense: that would be extremely funny
[08:06] <nigelb> especially even hearing Malayalam being pronounced with a British accent :D
[08:06] <sense> ah! swapped the l and the y
[08:06] <nigelb> haha, its a palindrome!
[08:06] <sense> nigelb: Posh Malayalam! :P
[08:07] <sense> nigelb: practise it for the next UDS!
[08:07] <sense> You'll sure get sponsored, I'd reckon.
[08:08] <nigelb> I certainly hope I get sponsored.
[08:08] <sense> nigelb: What's the furthest place you've been outside India?
[08:09] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoHealthCheck is on tonight
[08:10] <sense> czajkowski: Yeah, I'm poking some extra people today about that.
[08:10] <czajkowski> sense: good stuff
[08:11] <sense> czajkowski: We do have open forums right now! We just need to get used to communicating in an open way. It is a sign of improvement though we're now there.
[08:11] <czajkowski> sense: indeed
[08:11] <czajkowski> it's also good to see some teams who never used team reports or not done any in a long time back on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204#Ubuntu LoCo Teams
[08:11] <sense> yeah
[08:12] <sense> Your efforts are showing some results.
[08:12] <czajkowski> not mine
[08:12] <czajkowski> others
[08:12] <sense> your as in plural
[08:12] <czajkowski> I just poke/prod
[08:12] <czajkowski> ahh ye :)
[08:12] <sense> The English language can be limiting sometimes. ;)
[08:12] <czajkowski> ye is you plural
[08:12] <czajkowski> it's old english but used
[08:12] <sense> useful
[08:12] <czajkowski> I'm full of useless stuff :)
[08:12] <czajkowski> right
[08:13] <sense> Now lets see if the teams will stick to the reports for the two years.
[08:13] <czajkowski> time to drive the princess(sister) to work and then drive back to Limerick.  Offline for next few hours
[08:14] <sense> ok
[08:14] <sense> czajkowski: You're her personal driver?
[08:14] <czajkowski> I am today,  I drove her up to Drogheda last night
[08:14] <nigelb> sense: lol, can't you make out from what she calls here sister? ;)
[08:15] <nigelb> s/here/her
[08:15] <czajkowski> as we had a bank holiday over here so traffic was mental and I'd get there a lot quicker driving than she would using busses and trains
[08:15] <sense> ah
[08:15] <czajkowski> <--- Gone
[10:01] <dholbach> hola randa_
[10:01] <randa_> hi dholbach
[10:01] <dholbach> hey vish
[10:02] <vish> dholbach: hey! :)
[11:00]  * popey wonders if doctormo has seen debian bug 591453
[11:00] <ubot2> Debian bug 591453 in conquest "conqoper: expletives in error message" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/591453
[11:06] <vish> popey: seems like it was filed after doctormo's blog :)
[11:06] <popey> yeah
[11:06] <popey> there's an older bug about it too
[11:06] <popey> debian bug 338208
[11:06] <ubot2> Debian bug 338208 in conquest "Cannot initialize universe" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/338208
[11:07] <popey> which mentions the message
[11:07] <popey> thing is though that code pre-dates ubuntu by some considerable margin
[12:06] <nigelb> who owns a mac here? is there quick time for linux?
[12:09] <jussi> nigelb: I have a mac at home, what do you need?
[12:09] <jussi> macbook, to be precise
[12:10] <nigelb> jussi: is there a way to play quicktime?
[12:10] <jussi> nigelb: in linux?
[12:10] <nigelb> sigh.  the questions I get asked being the only "linux guy" at work
[12:10] <nigelb> jussi: yeah. mediubuntu will do?
[12:11] <jussi> nigelb: ubuntu-restricted-extras should have what you need iirc
[12:11] <jussi> !quicktime
[12:11] <ubot2> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12]  * nigelb hugs jussi :)
[12:12] <jussi> :)
[12:14] <czajkowski> Back
[12:15] <AlanBell> Forwards
[12:15] <nigelb> lol
[12:16] <paultag> So, scarry day today
[12:16] <paultag> it's been two years - 6 days from my Ubuntu Membership
[12:16] <paultag> just got my 6 day's notice that I will expire
[12:22] <popey> click the button to renew it :)
[12:22] <paultag> popey: well I can't just do that
[12:22] <popey> yes you can
[12:22] <paultag> popey: that cheepens the whole thing
[12:22] <popey> thats what everyone does
[12:22] <paultag> popey: I'm writing up a blog post about where I was, where I am now and where I want to be :)
[12:22] <popey> its "the way"
[12:22] <paultag> popey: then I'll renew
[12:23] <paultag> popey: I feel that the whole reason to renew is to get you to think about it
[12:23] <popey> would you like me to remove you from ~ubuntumembers? :D
[12:23] <paultag> hahaha, oh noes!
[12:23] <popey> I'm helpful like that
[12:23] <paultag> :P
[12:24] <czajkowski> popey: please don't we kinda need him on the loco council, he's kinda useful
[12:25] <paultag> Oh gee. Glad I can slave away
[12:25] <popey> "kinda"
[12:25] <popey> :)
[12:25] <popey> nice backhander there :)
[12:26] <paultag> haha
[12:26] <paultag> I love backhanded comments
[12:28] <nigelb> "kinda" - I agree popey.  Nice backhand.
[12:28]  * popey hugs paultag and czajkowski 
[12:29] <paultag> Oh that's a good backhanded comment for just learning how to do it nigelb
[12:29] <popey> luncheronny!
[12:29]  * paultag hugs popey 
[12:29] <czajkowski> :)
[12:29] <czajkowski> hugs
[12:29]  * paultag hugs czajkowski 
[12:29] <paultag> so much loving'
[12:29] <paultag> it's like the circle of friends up in hurrr
[12:29] <czajkowski> popey: I hope you feel like that later when I finish emailing again :)
[12:30] <czajkowski> paultag: ^^^^^
[12:30]  * paultag sighs
[12:30] <paultag> more emails?
[12:30] <paultag> :P
[12:32] <nigelb> paultag: did you read carla's article about the gnome contributions thingy?
[12:32] <paultag> I'm staying far away from that flame war
[12:32] <nigelb> she does give us a backhand about the whole hugging thing
[12:32] <paultag> Hahaha
[12:32] <paultag> I'm not reading it
[12:32] <paultag> I read the first one
[12:33] <czajkowski> nigelb: link?
[12:33] <paultag> and that was enough. I was so done with it
[12:33] <nigelb> she's written well actually.  I liked it
[12:33] <nigelb> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-07-30-028-35-OS-CY-UB
[12:33] <paultag> it's flame / troll bait
[12:33] <nigelb> paultag: haha, not this one
[12:33] <paultag> don't take it, fisheys
[12:34] <nigelb> Who else besides Ubuntu welcomes everyone, and tries to maintain a sane, friendly community? My favorite distribution is Debian, but no way will I ever try to be contributor. If I were an ace coder I would rather eat dog doo than try to become a kernel contributor. Life is too short to waste living in a flame-proof suit. There are a lot of FOSS projects that build rational, productive communities. But none of them are as big as Ubuntu, a
[12:34] <nigelb> direct quote from her ^^
[12:34] <paultag> hahahaha
[12:34] <paultag> Debian can be a bit harsh
[12:34] <paultag> they need a CoC and some hugs
[12:35] <nigelb> "In my grumpier moments their relentlessly positive, cult-like Kumbaya-or-else approach makes me want to turn the hose on them" - a backhand for the hugging and all the love :p
[12:35] <paultag> hahaha
[12:35] <paultag> Kumbaya-or-else, awesome
[12:35] <nigelb> haha
[12:35]  * jussi hugs debian
[12:36] <jussi> and in regards to the whole "we dont contribute back to gnome" thing, last time I heard they were not accepting our patches...
[12:37] <paultag> another stat i'd care to look at:
[12:37] <paultag> lines of code per person
[12:37] <paultag> Red Hat is a huge company, Canonical is smaller
[12:37] <paultag> and the desktop folks are even smaller then that
[12:37] <paultag> so 16% might be fewer lines / person at RH
[12:37] <nigelb> also, we tend to give patches than commit code
[12:37] <nigelb> (and they tend to reject the patches)
[12:37] <nigelb> oh no! we're getting sucked int the argument.
[12:38]  * paultag walks away
[12:38] <paultag> before I nick back to crabbytag
[12:38] <nigelb> lol
[12:38] <nigelb> I thought paultag was synonymous with crabytag :p
[12:38] <paultag> should be :P
[12:38] <jussi> hehe
[12:38] <paultag> last night my neck was *killing* me
[12:38] <nigelb> (strange! I got the spelling right)
[12:39]  * jussi is hoping his internets get fixored today
[12:39] <paultag> and so I was being quite crabby to folks in ubt-team
[12:39] <paultag> so stlsaint told me to nick to crabbytag :)
[12:39]  * nigelb is happy he's out then
[12:39]  * paultag 's not
[12:39] <paultag> we need more senior members
[12:39] <paultag> we lost a few
[12:40] <nigelb> czajkowski: liked the article? ;)
[12:40] <czajkowski> nigelb: pretty interested
[12:40] <czajkowski> I've read a few of her articles and tbh, they are usually bashing someone in canonical so it's weird reading it from this point
[12:42] <nhandler> The Global Jam is at the end of August, right? If so, why is the Global Jam on loco.ubuntu.com setup for September 27-29 ?
[12:42] <czajkowski> eh
[12:42] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/195/detail/
[12:42] <czajkowski> no it's not.....
[12:43] <czajkowski> AUGUST
[12:43] <nhandler> czajkowski: If I click the button to add my own team's event, the Begin box only lets me select September 27-29
[12:43] <nhandler> Hmm...Strange. A refresh fixed that
[12:43] <czajkowski> nhandler: you seeing things :p
[12:43] <czajkowski> nhandler: so in total this month, how many reports V last month ?
[12:43] <nhandler> I'm too young to be going crazy ;)
[12:44] <nhandler> czajkowski: I don't know. I can get you that info in a few minuts. Do you just care about loco teams?
[12:44] <paultag> morning nhandler
[12:44] <czajkowski> nhandler: yup loco teams, I think all of the boards bar CC and asia Board did team reports
[12:45] <nhandler> czajkowski: Well, not really. There were a few others that didn't. There are also some other teams in the community that are not doing them
[12:45] <nhandler> Hey paultag
[12:47] <nhandler> czajkowski: For LoCo teams, it was 17 compared to 14 last month
[12:47] <czajkowski> that's better
[13:08]  * dholbach → lunch
[13:08] <czajkowski> ohh excellent idea
[14:00]  * dpm quick lunch
[14:29] <sense> I'm always so happy when I've got stuff working; and then I break it.
[14:30] <sense> or something else breaks because of my stuff.
[15:03] <nigelb> ok, time for dinner and home.. catch y'all later :)
[15:04] <dpm> enjoy nigelb!
[15:39] <sense> Woot! A table is suddenly 20,000 pixels high and 1,800 pixels wide and I have no idea how it got that big!
[15:43] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:44] <czajkowski> jono: ello
[15:44] <doctormo> hey czajkowski
[15:45] <czajkowski> doctormo: hi
[15:45] <sense> hello doctormo, jono
[15:45] <jono> hey all :)
[15:46] <dpm> morning jono
[15:48] <jono> hey dpm
[15:51] <dholbach> jono: new LD release is out, we had to cowboy a fix in and discovered some new issues, but there's lots of good stuff in there
[15:52] <jono> dholbach, nice!
[15:52] <dholbach> jono: https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+milestone/0.2.14
[15:55] <popey> \o/
[15:55]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[15:56] <czajkowski> dholbach: does indeed rock!
[15:56] <dholbach> it was more like cjohnston, rww, daker, doctormo, mhall119 and nhandler rocked :)
[15:57] <dholbach> I rocked a little bit too :)
[15:57]  * dholbach hugs you all back
[15:57] <popey> \o/ team
[16:01] <jono> dpm, logging in now
[16:01] <dpm> jono, ok!
[16:58] <popey> shouldn't "Teams without country" in http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ be "Teams without continent"?
[16:58] <popey> UK is under that category yet UK _is_ a country
[16:59] <czajkowski> well why aren't Ireland and UK under Europe?
[17:01] <dholbach> popey: does the team have a country set?
[17:02] <dholbach> popey: all countries have a continent set, I did that manually :)
[17:04] <czajkowski> dholbach: but shouldn't uk and ireland be under europe anyways?
[17:06] <dholbach> the countries are
[17:06] <dholbach> the LD has no way of knowing which country a TEAM is responsible for or active in
[17:06] <dholbach> so you need to set that
[17:06] <dholbach> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk
[17:06] <dholbach> Location:	 None Specified
[17:06] <dholbach> Languages:	 None Specified
[17:08] <cjohnston> dholbach: is there anyway of getting the continents set somehow to be in the branch so that when we download its there?
[17:08] <popey> ahhh
[17:09] <popey> i cant edit that
[17:09] <popey> should I be able to as I'm loco-council?
[17:09] <czajkowski> I cant edit ireland either
[17:09] <dholbach> popey: I thought so, if not, please file a bug
[17:10] <dholbach> cjohnston: as reference I used wikipedia
[17:10] <dholbach> cjohnston: no, there's no way to do that right now - if you want that functionality, please file a bug
[17:10] <dholbach> but I doubt I have time to work on it
[17:10] <cjohnston> {% if is_admin %}<a class="sub-nav-item" href="{% url team-edit team.lp_name %}" title="{% trans "Edit team details" %}">{% trans "Edit team details" %}</a>{% endif %}
[17:10] <cjohnston> So the link only shows if your admin
[17:11] <czajkowski> jono: LoCo council meeting on TONIGHT https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[17:12] <czajkowski> popey: it seems there is no edit button on the page
[17:12] <czajkowski> poked ebel in -ie to edit ireland
[17:12]  * popey files a bug
[17:13] <popey> bug 613057
[17:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613057 in loco-directory "no edit button for members of loco council (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613057
[17:14] <dpm_> wohoo!, back from massive computer breakage
[17:14] <dpm_> the joys of running the development version
[17:37] <czajkowski> nigelb: ping
[17:40] <czajkowski> jono: ping pong my dear
[17:56] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day
[17:56] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:59] <paultag> czajkowski: oi, it's today :)
[17:59] <czajkowski> aye I said that....
[17:59] <paultag> 12:11:30 < czajkowski> jono: LoCo council meeting on TONIGHT
[18:00] <paultag> czajkowski: even in caps :)
[18:00] <czajkowski> today is tonight for some of us my dear
[18:00] <paultag> not where jon[o] is
[18:00] <paultag> :P
[18:02] <pleia2> yeah it's still morning here :)
[18:02] <paultag> just past noon here
[18:02] <czajkowski> sense: PING!
[18:03] <sense> jono: I pushed the social livestream code to <https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sense/sociaal/sociaal>. It is a WordPress plugin, and far from stable, but if you really want you can take a look at it.
[18:03] <jono> czajkowski, hey
[18:03] <jono> sense, nice!
[18:04] <czajkowski> jono: meeting on later, any items you'd liek to add, short meeting so a good time to bring things up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[18:04] <jono> czajkowski, I don't really have anything to add, thanks for the update though
[18:04] <czajkowski> ok
[18:10] <sense> czajkowski: Idea! Ubuntu EU as the Ubuntu US of Europe! Get a Ubuntu version of the EU! ;)
[18:10]  * paultag grumbles
[18:10] <sense> Would be useful, though, to make other European LoCos aware of their services and maybe also to clarify the way the LoCoCouncil looks to/certifies teams like Ubuntu EU.
[18:10] <paultag> the -us system is so far messed up
[18:10] <sense> (considering Ubuntu US, Ubuntu IN and other Ubuntu LargeCountry)
[18:10] <paultag> I don't think we should model anything after us
[18:12] <czajkowski> sense: the USA mentoring thingy doesnt work as far as I can see
[18:12] <czajkowski> I've had 2 teams mail me in the last 2 weeks saying not going gor approved as they dont do anything
[18:12] <pleia2> ouch :(
[18:13] <paultag> Well hey now
[18:13] <pleia2> we only mentor teams that want help
[18:13] <sense> That's a shame.
[18:13] <paultag> that's what we're looking for
[18:13] <sense> czajkowski: But do you think the idea of mentoring a LoCo is a good one?
[18:13] <paultag> We can help if we need, but people don't care enough to make themself as inactive
[18:13] <pleia2> they come to us when they want assistance, we don't drag them through the steps of approval if people there aren't active
[18:13] <paultag> its good if we can help them, but if they don't want to do anything, it's on them
[18:14] <czajkowski> sense: you're asking me in the middle of a meeting when I'm trying to run a meeting
[18:14] <czajkowski> can you catch me about this afterwards
[18:14] <czajkowski> :)
[18:14] <paultag> meeting recursion!
[18:14]  * pleia2 sighs
[18:14] <czajkowski> I know I'm good at being in multiple places, but come on :)
[18:14]  * czajkowski hugs pleia2 
[18:15] <pleia2> czajkowski: that hurt
[18:15] <pleia2> :(
[18:15] <pleia2> I put a lot of work into US Teams, we're helping a number of teams
[18:15] <czajkowski> pleia2: sorry I didnt mean it to come out that way
[18:15] <sense> czajkowski: Whoops, I think I'm too easily distracted by side-paths in my mind.
[18:15]  * pleia2 hugs czajkowski 
[18:15] <pleia2> thanks
[18:16] <czajkowski> pleia2: for me what I found, and maybe this is just the experience of 2-3 but same folks are in one team are in others and wires are getting crossed.  I'd be happier to see folks work on their own team and coming to the council (LC) if they need help
[18:16] <czajkowski> not when they want to not be approved...
[18:16] <czajkowski> if that makes sense ?
[18:17] <paultag> I think the US Mentors should be front-line
[18:17] <paultag> we can't handle helping every team with the attention needed
[18:17] <czajkowski> *nods*
[18:17] <sense> It is true that adding region-bound megateams would add another layer of complexity. It may be better to build a mentoring programme in the international community so all LoCos can benefit.
[18:17] <pleia2> czajkowski: most of what we do is just tell people how to get forums, where their mailing lists are, the basics
[18:17] <paultag> but there is a *lot* in the US that needs changed :)
[18:17] <pleia2> if we need anything serious we send them to the council
[18:17] <paultag> +1 pleia2
[18:17] <czajkowski> *nods*
[18:17] <pleia2> there have been a couple of times when wires got crossed, but that happens with every team, it's not because our project is a bad one, we're not perfect
[18:18] <pleia2> but you guys are busy enough without having to answer the "where is my loco?" question for every person who drops by #ubuntu-us :)
[18:18] <paultag> for sure pleia2
[18:19] <czajkowski> aye so true
[18:19] <sense> The LoCo-finder functionality is a useful one. ;)
[18:19] <paultag> Speaking of, I need to make sure my LoCo teams for US that I was mentoring get a new mentor ( at least one of them )
[18:19] <paultag> Idaho, Nebraska
[18:19] <pleia2> sense: most of the people come by with "I just started using ubuntu, I heard of this loco thing, where is mine?" they don't know about ubuntu wiki, or loco directory, or anything
[18:19] <paultag> I can hang on to one, but I've not heard anything from either of them
[18:19] <pleia2> anyway, back to work for me :)
[18:48] <czajkowski> jono: is there a bug somewhere that says the LP won't ever be translated into other languages?
[18:48] <dpm_> czajkowski, I'm not sure there is a bug, but there was certainly a discussion on launchpad-users or launchpad-dev. Let me see if I can find it...
[18:49] <czajkowski> dpm_: ohh you're here, tis rather late for you. thanks
[18:49] <dpm_> just idling a bit :-)
[18:49] <czajkowski> you over in debconf?
[18:49] <czajkowski> or back home home
[18:51] <sense> czajkowski: I think I could give you the bug number.
[18:52] <dpm_> czajkowski, ok, here's the thread on the translation of the LP site: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg05687.html
[18:53] <czajkowski> dpm_: thank you
[18:53] <dpm_> no worries
[19:02] <akgraner> Hey all - I feel like I have been away forever :-/
[19:03] <sense> akgraner: hello!
[19:03] <sense> How are you?
[19:03] <akgraner> sense great took some family time and haven't been available online as much (which btw isn't a bad thing)
[19:04] <akgraner> sense, sounded like GUADEC was a great time for ya?
[19:04] <jono> czajkowski, not that I am aware of
[19:06] <czajkowski> jono: thats what I thought, but not what folks think
[19:06] <jono> czajkowski, which folks?
[19:06] <czajkowski> loco folks
[19:06] <czajkowski> came up in health check
[19:06] <czajkowski> folks think the LP will never be translated
[19:07] <jono> czajkowski, raise this with dpm and he should send a statement to the community
[19:07] <czajkowski> ok
[19:07] <sense> akgraner: Smart idea to take some family time. ;) GUADEC sure was great. Lovely people. Different atmosphere than UDs, though.
[19:07] <sense> jono: I'm one of those folks.
[19:10] <sense> czajkowski, jono: The main reason why I believed it is because bug #3896 is marked as 'Won't Fix'.
[19:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 3896 in launchpad-foundations "Launchpad itself is not translatable in Launchpad (affects: 22) (dups: 4) (heat: 129)" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3896
[19:11] <sense> Also, it was marked Low.  A bit disappointing, really.
[19:14] <sense> That's the reason for my fiery comment at the bottom.
[19:21] <dpm_> ok, time for dinner, see you all tomorrow!
[20:35] <sense> God, having multiple, intense discussions in two different languages, in which you post very long, complex sentences and thoughts, is tiring!
[20:36] <sense> it burns energy
[20:37] <czajkowski> sense: *hugs*
[20:37] <czajkowski> is that a long blog post written on the loco health check
[20:38] <sense> czajkowski: I'm not writing a blog post today, I suppose.
[20:38] <sense> czajkowski: You must be having this all days! Every day people wanting to discuss things with you!
[20:38] <czajkowski> :)
[20:38] <sense> How do you cope?
[21:03] <sense> czajkowski: The HealthCheck was at least good because it started some furhter discussion in Ubuntu NL, and also made more people aware of your existence, the existence of IRC and the existence of the #ubuntu-locoteams IRC channel. So an evening full of win!
[21:23] <czajkowski> sense: good to hear, I'll keep running the session if folks find it useful
[21:23] <sense> czajkowski: I find them useful!
[21:23] <sense> Except the add so much items to my ToDo list! ;)
[22:02] <czajkowski> community council meeting starting over in #ubuntu-meeting
[22:04] <huats> good evening everyone
[22:04] <czajkowski> huats: hey
[22:05] <huats> what a surprise czajkowski:)
[22:05] <czajkowski> I know :p
[22:05] <czajkowski> good LC meeting though
[22:05] <huats> it was
[22:21] <sense> Good night everyone, I'm shutting down!
[22:41] <doctormo> All the ubuntu people seem to be leaving DebConf. Is anyone left now that jcastro and maco are going tonight?
[22:52] <doctormo> Colin;s staying
[22:54] <doctormo> Time for bed! Bye all
[22:55] <popey> o/
[22:57] <czajkowski> doctormo: I cant stay up for MA meeting
[22:57] <czajkowski> plus I cant see any agenda for meeting
[23:11] <jcastro> doctormo: mdz, robbie, keybuk, evan, doko, ccheney
[23:18] <nhandler> jcastro: If you are heading back to Michigan, say hi to nixternal (he is driving up this weekend iirc)