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| dfarning | manusheel, are you around? | 15:42 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Hi David. | 15:44 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Hi neeraj. | 15:50 |
| manusheel | Around? | 15:50 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. | 15:50 |
| manusheel | Around? | 15:50 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: hello sir. | 15:51 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: How is the packaging of exelearning coming along? | 15:51 |
| manusheel | Any help required? | 15:51 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, hi | 15:51 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: I started with pippy, and its almost complete | 15:51 |
| manusheel | neeraj: How did yesterdays' build process go? | 15:51 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Great. Did you copy/paste the steps? | 15:52 |
| neeraj | ppa packages are build | 15:52 |
| manusheel | The steps followed. | 15:52 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: yes sir, every step | 15:52 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok. | 15:52 |
| manusheel | They were build successfully/ | 15:52 |
| manusheel | ? | 15:52 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Neat. | 15:52 |
| manusheel | Very good. | 15:52 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, yes.. https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa | 15:53 |
| manusheel | neeraj: David is re-running a build. | 15:54 |
| manusheel | Did you get a chance to document the steps? | 15:54 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Re-running the build will take half to 1 hour. | 15:54 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, ok | 15:54 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Did you go through Jonas's e-mail? | 15:54 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Did you also go through Jonas's e-mail? | 15:55 |
| dfarning | neeraj, good morning. | 15:57 |
| neeraj | dfarning, good morning :) | 15:58 |
| dfarning | neeraj, I am running a new build with you new packages. | 15:59 |
| manusheel | dfarning: The ppa packages have been build successfully, which is neat. I believe we'll have an iso available for Maverick Sugar today, right? For testing bugs. | 15:59 |
| neeraj | manusheel, yes.. I saw the Jonan's e-mail. Will make changes whenever I can. :) | 15:59 |
| manusheel | neeraj: I would like you to have a discussion with Dipankar on it. | 16:00 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: just read it. | 16:00 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Me and Dipankar had a long conference call on it, and other packaging issues. | 16:00 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: We'll need to update the packages. | 16:01 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, ok | 16:01 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: hmmm. | 16:02 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: I have asked Dipankar and Neeraj to come up with a document on "what Debian documentation says", and "what Jonas says" spreadsheet. So, leave the documentation part with them. The documentation available to us in not upto date. | 16:02 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: I have asked Dipankar and Ankur* | 16:02 |
| manusheel | neeraj, will be having a discussion with Dipankar on it. | 16:03 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: no major change is required | 16:03 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Ok. But, whatever is required, let us do it. | 16:03 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: yes. | 16:04 |
| manusheel | The point is that unless these activities don't go into Debian, they would not be available to us for testing in Sugar on Debian. | 16:04 |
| kandarpk | ok. | 16:04 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Once these activities are in Debian, we'll be able to follow up faster. | 16:05 |
| dfarning | manusheel, +1 exactly, once we do the initial work we will earn the trust to upload the packages with someone from Seeta doing the review. | 16:07 |
| dfarning | not waiting for anyone external | 16:08 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Yes. This is exactly what I am looking forward too. | 16:08 |
| manusheel | dfarning: How does Luke's schedule look like in the coming week? | 16:08 |
| dfarning | manusheel, I am not sure | 16:09 |
| manusheel | We would like him to review log viewer and a couple of other activities. | 16:09 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Absolutely fine. Will send him an e-mail. | 16:09 |
| dfarning | manusheel, have you updated them based on jonas' comments? | 16:09 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Our team is doing that today. The problem is that Debian documentation and Luke's comments are not in sync with the ones by Jonas. | 16:11 |
| dfarning | Yes, when in doubt refer to Jonas' comments. | 16:11 |
| dfarning | manusheel, ^^ | 16:11 |
| manusheel | dfarning: We are documenting in a spreadsheet - "What Debian documentation says" vs "What Jonas says". | 16:12 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Sure. | 16:12 |
| manusheel | We are following Jonas's comments only. | 16:12 |
| dfarning | manusheel, arggg. that sounds like a workable solution. | 16:12 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Yes. | 16:12 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Interestingly, Ankur followed Jonas on listserv. All his packages don't have those issues as told by him to us today. | 16:13 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Dipankar, Luke, Kandarp and Neeraj were following Debian documentation. So, they'll have to update their respective packages. | 16:14 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Around? | 16:21 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: yes sir. | 16:21 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Let us do the exelearning packaging task after we have completed updating the other packages as commented by Jonas. | 16:22 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: If the updating part takes up time, we'll do the packaging of exelearning tomorrow. | 16:22 |
| manusheel | We need to get the packages reviewed by Jonas during DebConf. | 16:22 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: Ok, will try my best. | 16:23 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Thanks Kandarp. | 16:23 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. | 17:00 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: hello sir. | 17:00 |
| manusheel | Any progress on the pippy activity update? | 17:00 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: sir, I incorrectly spelled version as v37 instead of 37 | 17:01 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: just correcting that, and confirming the overall package with rules mentioned by Jonas | 17:02 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Sure, Kandarp. | 17:03 |
| manusheel | Such mistakes happen. You'll be able to avoid them in future. I am glad you figured this out. | 17:03 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: trying to build | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | it got copied twice I think | 17:21 |
| kandarpk | --------------------------------------------------------------------- | 17:22 |
| kandarpk | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). | 17:22 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: error encountered ^^ | 17:22 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Ok? | 17:32 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Let us send an e-mail on it to debian olpc mailing list | 17:32 |
| manusheel_ | steps followed by us | 17:32 |
| manusheel_ | and the error encountered (put in pastebin). | 17:33 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Very much on the lines of your speak e-mail. | 17:33 |
| manusheel_ | Kindly copy me on it. | 17:33 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: I am installing libstdc++64.so.6 to see if that works | 17:33 |
| kandarpk | as box2d_linux64 is causing the error | 17:34 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Sure, kandarp. | 17:48 |
| manusheel_ | Please check with that. | 17:48 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Kindly copy paste the output after every step using this library. | 17:49 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: deb package is being made but still have some errors | 17:49 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Ok, can you share them? | 17:49 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: posting on mailing list | 17:49 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: on running gdebi | 17:50 |
| kandarpk | Dependency is not satisfiable: python-box2d | 17:50 |
| kandarpk | manusheel_ sir: lintian too is giving errors | 17:50 |
| kandarpk | arch-independent-package-contains-binary-or-object | 17:51 |
| kandarpk | arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share | 17:51 |
| manusheel_ | kandarpk: Ok. | 18:09 |
| neeraj__ | dfarning, ping | 18:46 |
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| dfarning | neeraj, pong | 18:47 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: around? | 18:48 |
| neeraj | Can u just give a me a brief overview of usr-default setting package and usr-meta-settings. | 18:48 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: +1 | 18:48 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Yes. I think this is one area, where we didn't find much documentation. | 18:49 |
| neeraj | dfarning, as far as I could understand by seeing the files | 18:49 |
| dfarning | neeraj, there really is no documentation:( | 18:50 |
| neeraj | the default settings just have files which make changes in the various menus. | 18:50 |
| neeraj | I mean it add options related to sugar at various places. | 18:51 |
| dfarning | It was something I copied from the netbook remix project. | 18:51 |
| neeraj | dfarning, ok. np :) | 18:53 |
| dfarning | neeraj, that is exactly what it is. It adjusts setting as necessary to improve the user experience in USR. | 18:53 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Neat. | 18:55 |
| dfarning | neeraj, you can get rid of it it you don't need it anymore. | 18:55 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Meta settings are important. | 18:56 |
| neeraj | dfarning, rid of what? | 18:56 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: default-settings | 18:56 |
| manusheel_ | it seems. | 18:57 |
| dfarning | neeraj, the -setting package. | 18:57 |
| neeraj | dfarning, I didn't got you. Have we not used it in latest usr-iso? | 18:57 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: We have used it, and can get rid of it as and when required. | 18:58 |
| dfarning | I didn't know what I was doing when I started this project. I just copy what netbook remix did and adopted it for sugar. | 18:58 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: It is like a nullable field in an RDBMS project. | 18:59 |
| neeraj | manusheel_, ohk.. | 18:59 |
| dfarning | Yes, the current builds use the package. But if you find a better way to adjust the setting please feel free to use a different method | 19:00 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Great. Thanks. | 19:00 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Meta settings store the meta data info settings right? | 19:01 |
| dogi | dfarning, hi | 19:01 |
| neeraj | dfarning, as far as I could understand, USR == (UbuntuNetbook- unwanted packages acco. to USR goal) + sugar-packages + Change in menus/gconf settings | 19:01 |
| dfarning | manusheel_, yes that is correct. | 19:03 |
| dfarning | neeraj, exactly that is the starting point. From here, as developers and engineeres you can adopt it as you need. | 19:03 |
| dfarning | dogi, hello | 19:05 |
| dfarning | dogi, cool the servers are up that is great news. | 19:05 |
| dfarning | I was traveling at the time. | 19:05 |
| manusheel_ | dfarning: Great. We look forward to optimizations moving forward. I am sure we can reduce the size of the iso. | 19:05 |
| dfarning | doqi do you have remote access to them? | 19:06 |
| neeraj | dfarning, for more proper working, we are packaging and maintaining activities in Ubuntu and Debian(So that they can be used there also) and releasing a separate ISO (USR) | 19:06 |
| neeraj | s/more/ | 19:06 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: Activities are the crust of the USR. | 19:08 |
| manusheel_ | neeraj: Users work with activities. | 19:09 |
| manusheel_ | not with os. | 19:09 |
| neeraj | ok | 19:09 |
| dogi | dfarning, yes i have ... and you too ... at least you should ... :P | 19:11 |
| dfarning | dogi, I gave my laptop to bernie because his broke and now I don't have access to my ssh key. | 19:20 |
| dogi | lol | 19:21 |
| dfarning | neeraj, yes we are packaging activites for two reasons. | 19:21 |
| dfarning | 1. Because they are a good starting point for learning to work with Sugar on Debian and Ubuntu. | 19:24 |
| dfarning | 2. Activitivies are the part of sugar users interact with on a daily basis. | 19:24 |
| neeraj | dfarning: ping | 23:37 |
| dfarning | neeraj, hey how are you. | 23:39 |
| neeraj | dfarning: I m fine. :). | 23:39 |
| neeraj | dfarning: I hope you are also doing well. | 23:40 |
| dfarning | neeraj, did you get a chance to test the latest USR build? | 23:40 |
| dfarning | neeraj, yes I got home about a half hour ago and a day in a school. | 23:40 |
| neeraj | dfarning: I have not downloaded it yet due to bandwidth limitation but I think manusheel_ sir has downloaded it and will provide it today. | 23:41 |
| dfarning | neeraj, I was pretending to work on my computer while watching 6th graders update their XOs. | 23:41 |
| neeraj | dfarning: I was looking for latest i-386 build. | 23:42 |
| dfarning | neeraj, zsync is you friend | 23:42 |
| neeraj | dfarning: cool :) | 23:42 |
| neeraj | dfarning: yes I knw about zsync but don't knw y manusheel_ sir said we should test one ISO after completely downloading it from scratch. | 23:43 |
| neeraj | dfarning: nyways. we willl get latest iso today itself. Thats not a issue. | 23:43 |
| dfarning | neeraj, I had trouble with the i386 build it failed while building the kernel. I did not get a chance to figure out what went wrong. | 23:44 |
| neeraj | dfarning: ok. :). thanks for informing. | 23:44 |
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