=== satellit_ is now known as satellit_afk [02:56] dfarning: all I know is that it's important - the seed file contains config information for the boot phase === satellit_afk is now known as satellit_ === satellit_ is now known as satellit_afk === satellit_afk is now known as satellit_ [15:42] manusheel, are you around? [15:44] dfarning: Hi David. [15:50] neeraj: Hi neeraj. [15:50] Around? [15:50] kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. [15:50] Around? [15:51] manusheel sir: hello sir. [15:51] kandarpk: How is the packaging of exelearning coming along? [15:51] Any help required? [15:51] manusheel sir, hi [15:51] manusheel sir: I started with pippy, and its almost complete [15:51] neeraj: How did yesterdays' build process go? [15:52] kandarpk: Great. Did you copy/paste the steps? [15:52] ppa packages are build [15:52] The steps followed. [15:52] manusheel sir: yes sir, every step [15:52] neeraj: Ok. [15:52] They were build successfully/ [15:52] ? [15:52] kandarpk: Neat. [15:52] Very good. [15:53] manusheel sir, yes.. https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa [15:54] neeraj: David is re-running a build. [15:54] Did you get a chance to document the steps? [15:54] neeraj: Re-running the build will take half to 1 hour. [15:54] manusheel sir, ok [15:54] kandarpk: Did you go through Jonas's e-mail? [15:55] neeraj: Did you also go through Jonas's e-mail? [15:57] neeraj, good morning. [15:58] dfarning, good morning :) [15:59] neeraj, I am running a new build with you new packages. [15:59] dfarning: The ppa packages have been build successfully, which is neat. I believe we'll have an iso available for Maverick Sugar today, right? For testing bugs. [15:59] manusheel, yes.. I saw the Jonan's e-mail. Will make changes whenever I can. :) [16:00] neeraj: I would like you to have a discussion with Dipankar on it. [16:00] manusheel sir: just read it. [16:00] neeraj: Me and Dipankar had a long conference call on it, and other packaging issues. [16:01] kandarpk: We'll need to update the packages. [16:01] manusheel sir, ok [16:02] manusheel sir: hmmm. [16:02] kandarpk: I have asked Dipankar and Neeraj to come up with a document on "what Debian documentation says", and "what Jonas says" spreadsheet. So, leave the documentation part with them. The documentation available to us in not upto date. [16:02] kandarpk: I have asked Dipankar and Ankur* [16:03] neeraj, will be having a discussion with Dipankar on it. [16:03] manusheel sir: no major change is required [16:03] kandarpk: Ok. But, whatever is required, let us do it. [16:04] manusheel sir: yes. [16:04] The point is that unless these activities don't go into Debian, they would not be available to us for testing in Sugar on Debian. [16:04] ok. [16:05] kandarpk: Once these activities are in Debian, we'll be able to follow up faster. [16:07] manusheel, +1 exactly, once we do the initial work we will earn the trust to upload the packages with someone from Seeta doing the review. [16:08] not waiting for anyone external [16:08] dfarning: Yes. This is exactly what I am looking forward too. [16:08] dfarning: How does Luke's schedule look like in the coming week? [16:09] manusheel, I am not sure [16:09] We would like him to review log viewer and a couple of other activities. [16:09] dfarning: Absolutely fine. Will send him an e-mail. [16:09] manusheel, have you updated them based on jonas' comments? [16:11] dfarning: Our team is doing that today. The problem is that Debian documentation and Luke's comments are not in sync with the ones by Jonas. [16:11] Yes, when in doubt refer to Jonas' comments. [16:11] manusheel, ^^ [16:12] dfarning: We are documenting in a spreadsheet - "What Debian documentation says" vs "What Jonas says". [16:12] dfarning: Sure. [16:12] We are following Jonas's comments only. [16:12] manusheel, arggg. that sounds like a workable solution. [16:12] dfarning: Yes. [16:13] dfarning: Interestingly, Ankur followed Jonas on listserv. All his packages don't have those issues as told by him to us today. [16:14] dfarning: Dipankar, Luke, Kandarp and Neeraj were following Debian documentation. So, they'll have to update their respective packages. [16:21] kandarpk: Around? [16:21] manusheel sir: yes sir. [16:22] kandarpk: Let us do the exelearning packaging task after we have completed updating the other packages as commented by Jonas. [16:22] kandarpk: If the updating part takes up time, we'll do the packaging of exelearning tomorrow. [16:22] We need to get the packages reviewed by Jonas during DebConf. [16:23] manusheel sir: Ok, will try my best. [16:23] kandarpk: Thanks Kandarp. [17:00] kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. [17:00] manusheel sir: hello sir. [17:00] Any progress on the pippy activity update? [17:01] manusheel sir: sir, I incorrectly spelled version as v37 instead of 37 [17:02] manusheel sir: just correcting that, and confirming the overall package with rules mentioned by Jonas [17:03] kandarpk: Sure, Kandarp. [17:03] Such mistakes happen. You'll be able to avoid them in future. I am glad you figured this out. [17:21] manusheel_ sir: trying to build [17:21] dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed [17:21] by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). [17:21] so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). [17:21] so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). [17:21] it got copied twice I think [17:22] --------------------------------------------------------------------- [17:22] dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libstdc++.so.6 needed by debian/sugar-pippy-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/box2d/box2d_linux64/_Box2D2.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). [17:22] manusheel_ sir: error encountered ^^ [17:32] kandarpk: Ok? [17:32] kandarpk: Let us send an e-mail on it to debian olpc mailing list [17:32] steps followed by us [17:33] and the error encountered (put in pastebin). [17:33] kandarpk: Very much on the lines of your speak e-mail. [17:33] Kindly copy me on it. [17:33] manusheel_ sir: I am installing libstdc++64.so.6 to see if that works [17:34] as box2d_linux64 is causing the error [17:48] kandarpk: Sure, kandarp. [17:48] Please check with that. [17:49] kandarpk: Kindly copy paste the output after every step using this library. [17:49] manusheel_ sir: deb package is being made but still have some errors [17:49] kandarpk: Ok, can you share them? [17:49] manusheel_ sir: posting on mailing list [17:50] manusheel_ sir: on running gdebi [17:50] Dependency is not satisfiable: python-box2d [17:50] manusheel_ sir: lintian too is giving errors [17:51] arch-independent-package-contains-binary-or-object [17:51] arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share [18:09] kandarpk: Ok. [18:46] dfarning, ping === neeraj__ is now known as neeraj [18:47] neeraj, pong [18:48] neeraj: around? [18:48] Can u just give a me a brief overview of usr-default setting package and usr-meta-settings. [18:48] neeraj: +1 [18:49] dfarning: Yes. I think this is one area, where we didn't find much documentation. [18:49] dfarning, as far as I could understand by seeing the files [18:50] neeraj, there really is no documentation:( [18:50] the default settings just have files which make changes in the various menus. [18:51] I mean it add options related to sugar at various places. [18:51] It was something I copied from the netbook remix project. [18:53] dfarning, ok. np :) [18:53] neeraj, that is exactly what it is. It adjusts setting as necessary to improve the user experience in USR. [18:55] dfarning: Neat. [18:55] neeraj, you can get rid of it it you don't need it anymore. [18:56] dfarning: Meta settings are important. [18:56] dfarning, rid of what? [18:56] neeraj: default-settings [18:57] it seems. [18:57] neeraj, the -setting package. [18:57] dfarning, I didn't got you. Have we not used it in latest usr-iso? [18:58] neeraj: We have used it, and can get rid of it as and when required. [18:58] I didn't know what I was doing when I started this project. I just copy what netbook remix did and adopted it for sugar. [18:59] neeraj: It is like a nullable field in an RDBMS project. [18:59] manusheel_, ohk.. [19:00] Yes, the current builds use the package. But if you find a better way to adjust the setting please feel free to use a different method [19:00] dfarning: Great. Thanks. [19:01] dfarning: Meta settings store the meta data info settings right? [19:01] dfarning, hi [19:01] dfarning, as far as I could understand, USR == (UbuntuNetbook- unwanted packages acco. to USR goal) + sugar-packages + Change in menus/gconf settings [19:03] manusheel_, yes that is correct. [19:03] neeraj, exactly that is the starting point. From here, as developers and engineeres you can adopt it as you need. [19:05] dogi, hello [19:05] dogi, cool the servers are up that is great news. [19:05] I was traveling at the time. [19:05] dfarning: Great. We look forward to optimizations moving forward. I am sure we can reduce the size of the iso. [19:06] doqi do you have remote access to them? [19:06] dfarning, for more proper working, we are packaging and maintaining activities in Ubuntu and Debian(So that they can be used there also) and releasing a separate ISO (USR) [19:06] s/more/ [19:08] neeraj: Activities are the crust of the USR. [19:09] neeraj: Users work with activities. [19:09] not with os. [19:09] ok [19:11] dfarning, yes i have ... and you too ... at least you should ... :P [19:20] dogi, I gave my laptop to bernie because his broke and now I don't have access to my ssh key. [19:21] lol [19:21] neeraj, yes we are packaging activites for two reasons. [19:24] 1. Because they are a good starting point for learning to work with Sugar on Debian and Ubuntu. [19:24] 2. Activitivies are the part of sugar users interact with on a daily basis. [23:37] dfarning: ping [23:39] neeraj, hey how are you. [23:39] dfarning: I m fine. :). [23:40] dfarning: I hope you are also doing well. [23:40] neeraj, did you get a chance to test the latest USR build? [23:40] neeraj, yes I got home about a half hour ago and a day in a school. [23:41] dfarning: I have not downloaded it yet due to bandwidth limitation but I think manusheel_ sir has downloaded it and will provide it today. [23:41] neeraj, I was pretending to work on my computer while watching 6th graders update their XOs. [23:42] dfarning: I was looking for latest i-386 build. [23:42] neeraj, zsync is you friend [23:42] dfarning: cool :) [23:43] dfarning: yes I knw about zsync but don't knw y manusheel_ sir said we should test one ISO after completely downloading it from scratch. [23:43] dfarning: nyways. we willl get latest iso today itself. Thats not a issue. [23:44] neeraj, I had trouble with the i386 build it failed while building the kernel. I did not get a chance to figure out what went wrong. [23:44] dfarning: ok. :). thanks for informing.