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h00kripps!01:20
rippsh00k: yo01:21
h00kripps: Nice job on the elementary-nautilus packaging01:21
h00kripps: are you a MOTU yet?01:21
rippsh00k: nope01:21
h00kripps: why not?01:22
h00kripps: Also, you should try for membership!01:22
rippsh00k: Eh, need to write up an application, and I'm sure I've fixed enough Ubuntu bugs. I tend to fix bugs in the Ubuntu side-projects...01:23
ripps*not sure I've fixed enough Ubuntu bugs01:23
h00kso, you should create a wiki01:23
h00kand I encourage you to go for it01:23
h00kif you want.01:23
h00k!member01:23
lubotu1Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership01:23
rippsh00k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ripps81801:23
h00kripps: yeah. I'm pretty sure you should go for it.01:25
rippsI've tried to apply for a MOTU mentorship, but nobody has gotten back to me.01:26
h00kReally?01:26
h00kripps: how long ago was that?01:27
rippsh00k: a few months01:27
tonyyarussoMy lappy is getting finicky, but I don't really feel like buying a new one yet...01:28
tonyyarussoTakyoji: btw, I got it running again, but it's still occasionally strange.  AFAICT, it's happy once it gets booted at least now.01:28
h00kripps: using this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted01:29
h00kripps: and also https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors01:29
h00kripps: I mean, you can do as you wish, I think your skills are pretty cool01:31
rippsh00k: I could try, but I think my biggest barrier to membership is that most MOTU's aren't very familiar with me, so I'm not sure who I can get to vouch for me.01:32
h00kripps: are you in #ubuntu-motu?01:32
h00kyep01:32
h00ksparklehistory: hello!01:49
sparklehistoryHi h00k!01:49
h00kHow are you, this fine cloudy day?01:49
sparklehistoryPretty good, just makin myself some dinner01:50
h00kI haven't eaten dinner yet, I don't know what to make :(01:50
sparklehistoryHow are you?01:50
h00kI'm doing pretty alright! I can't complain.01:50
sparklehistoryMine has been a matter of pull it out of the fridge and toss it in the pan and see what happens01:50
sparklehistoryI hear you recently got engaged, congratulations!01:51
h00k:D Thanks! I blame tonyyarusso for that one01:52
sparklehistoryh00k: For telling me or getting engaged? :P01:53
h00kHAH. Telling you :)01:54
h00kIt's okay, we told the internets on our site. And video, pics, etc.01:54
sparklehistoryHe did keep it a secret until after you proposed, and enjoyed tormenting me with the fact that there was something he knew that I didn't.01:55
h00kHAH!01:56
h00kSeriously?01:56
sparklehistoryof course01:56
h00k>.<01:56
sparklehistorySo what have you been up to this summer?01:57
h00kOooh. working, mostly01:58
sparklehistorySame here, nothing too exciting01:59
h00kUuum, driving the motorcycle when the weather is nice01:59
sparklehistoryThat sounds like fun!  I've been trying to get outside on the weekends, escape from the office atmosphere.02:00
h00kYeah. Where 'bouts do you work? Or, what kind of work, rather?02:01
sparklehistoryI work in the cities, in law.02:03
h00kAh, okay.02:03
sparklehistoryHow about you?02:03
h00kI work for an IT company02:03
h00kin Rhinelander, WI02:04
sparklehistoryah, cool02:08
h00kSo, we do IT for local businesses02:09
sparklehistoryDo you do mainly open source?02:09
h00kunfortunately, no. We are a Microsoft Gold partner and provided mainly Microsoft options, but we're starting to become more open (mostly because of my influence) in providing the best option for the customer's needs02:10
h00kI'm trying to shake things up a bit02:12
sparklehistorythat's good, it's always nice to let people know they have options02:12
h00kYes02:13
sparklehistoryIt's was nice chatting with you, but I'm off to eat now02:13
h00kI use Ubuntu on my work-provided laptop and run Win 7 in a virtual machine for our tools like Go To Assist, etc02:13
h00kEnjoy dinner!02:14
sparklehistorythanks!02:14
h00kUbuntu Wisconsin is having a meeting at 8:00pm on Wednesday in #ubuntu-us-wi if anyone would like to join! Topics will include Global Jam participation and potential release parties02:23
* tonyyarusso waves03:32
h00kHey there!03:33
tonyyarussoSo, wanna buy me a new laptop?03:33
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: no....but you can buy yourself one :)03:35
h00ktonyyarusso: what did you do? I told you they don't work underwater03:35
tonyyarussoh00k: nothing, it's just old and used.  It's developed some sort of slightly loose connection in the motherboard or chipset or hard drive interface that causes it to pause occasionally, usually during early stages of the boot sequence.03:36
h00kdid you run a memtest?03:37
h00kdoes it kernel panic?03:37
tonyyarussoI'm working on it as we speak, so it's functional, but I'm starting to think it's nearing retirement time (purchased 2005).03:37
tonyyarussono, kernel's totally happy.03:37
h00kInteresting. I had a bad L2 cache and kernel panic'd, I was able to get a dump on netconsole03:37
tonyyarussoSymptoms are you'll type "Hello", "He" will print to the screen, then you rock it back and forth or press on the chassis a bit and then "llo" will print out.03:37
h00k^o) what the hell03:39
h00kThat shouldn't even...happen.03:39
h00kwhat does S.M.A.R.T. data say on your HD?03:39
tonyyarussoI don't think this drive supports it03:39
h00k:(03:39
h00kCheck with palimpset03:39
h00kor what it's called03:39
tonyyarussooh, nvm "Has a few bad sectors" - guess it does.03:40
h00khow many is a few?03:40
h00kIt should give you a detailed report03:40
tonyyarusso203:41
tonyyarussoon last check at least - manually running now03:41
tonyyarussonever any trouble reading or writing data either03:44
h00kOh. 2?03:45
h00kthat's nothing03:45
tonyyarussoright03:51
tonyyarussoI'm think like a solder joint between a component and the motherboard that popped off a bit.03:51
h00kI have a soldering iron you can borrow03:52
h00kand some hot-glue03:52
tonyyarussoI have one too, but I haven't found what's wrong yet - just a guess based on the symptoms.03:54
h00kYeah, that is awkward. RAM is okay?03:55
tonyyarussoI was half-pondering selling it to Takyoji and making it his problem :P  (If I decide I can shell out for a replacement)03:55
tonyyarussoshould be - RAM is non-original.03:56
h00kdo a memtest, that can't hurt03:56
tonyyarussotrue.  Need me to reboot though :P03:56
TakyojiI was just curious of it; was all03:57
h00kyeah. is that the machine you're on?03:57
tonyyarussoyup03:58
tonyyarussoTakyoji: aww, fine03:58
Takyojias might be able to find people interested03:58
tonyyarussospeaking off selling off old machines though, h00k was at one point half-interested in my desktop and never got back to me...03:58
tonyyarussoand I still need to send a quote for my keyboard to exigraff03:58
h00ktonyyarusso: oh yeah, tell me about it again? I totally forgot :D03:59
* tonyyarusso looks for the spreadsheet03:59
tonyyarussohttp://files.tonyyarusso.com/netvista_valuation.ods04:00
h00knetvista04:00
h00kmakes me nervous04:00
TakyojiGood ol' oldie games. Was just playing Descent; and Cyberia before that; in DosBox04:00
tonyyarussolordy, that was back in April04:00
tonyyarussoh00k: why?  It's a a pretty decent little machine.04:01
h00ktonyyarusso: just the 'Vista' part04:01
tonyyarussoah, lol04:01
tonyyarussoWell, this was before Microsoft used that term, so...  (It's an IBM, btw, from toward the tail end of IBM making PCs before offloading to Lenovo.)04:02
h00ktonyyarusso: Ah, I remember this!04:02
h00kIt's got a P404:02
h00k2 GiB NICs04:02
tonyyarussoyeah, lots of non-original goodies in there :P04:04
h00knothing wrong with that!04:04
h00kI have like...$5 to my name until Friday.04:04
h00kI'll keep that in mind, although I have to be frugal with the wedding coming up04:04
tonyyarussoThe caveat is that the P4 is the reason the power supply needs replacing, and the power supply is a non-standard form factor with limited options available.  So, either you need to a) Run the Celeron.  b) Replace the power supply regularly.  c) Mod it to hold a different power supply somehow.04:05
tonyyarussopssssh, the bride's family is supposed to cover the wedding!04:05
h00kwell, they're making a generous contribution, but it probably won't cover everything04:06
tonyyarussoupdated the file to account for the extra couple of months of depreciation.04:06
h00ktonyyarusso: Would you consider assisting setting up a release party in the Duluth/Superior area?04:08
h00ktonyyarusso: ripps is the only one I'm aware of up there from MN, however04:08
tonyyarussoSure, depending on what assisting entails04:08
h00kI have no idea.04:09
h00kI know there is also a user in Ashland that might be interested as well.04:09
h00kexigraff, Brittany, myself,04:09
h00ktonyyarusso: I'll look into it and let you know04:10
tonyyarussoIf I do get a new laptop, I think the current top contender is http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=10004:19
h00knext time I can afford one, I'm getting a system7604:19
tonyyarussoThey aren't even expensive...until you decide to trick it out because that's what geeks do.04:23
h00k'course04:24
tonyyarussoLooks like a really nice one would be more than $1500, less than $2000.04:25
tonyyarussolike, zillions times nicer than my current one04:26
tonyyarussoCore i7 vs. Pentium M?04:26
h00ki704:26
h00kPentium M?04:26
h00kM is single core~04:27
tonyyarussoYup.04:29
tonyyarussoI'm saying for comparison, not decision.  The ThinkPad is an M.04:29
h00kOh, oh, I understand.04:30
h00kI was going to say...you're trying to make that decision?04:30
h00kI was going to make some generalizations about Minnesotans...04:30
tonyyarussohaha04:31
TakyojiWhen will I be able to ever find a modern and usable Linux distro that doesn't have a damn regression with my mother's desktop's graphics chipset?04:37
TakyojiWhereas it ALWAYS freezes after 20-30 minutes; the only thing movable is the mouse. And you can't switch to a virtual terminal04:37
h00kTakyoji: Tell Murphy to change that damn law.04:37
Takyoji9.04 worked04:38
Takyoji9.10 freezes after 20 minutes.04:38
Takyoji10.04 freezes even shorter.04:38
Takyojiand I tried installing Fedora 13, but it freezes after an amount of time as well.04:39
Takyojiand all I've been given is "you'll have to do regression testing" and a wiki page, and no other assistence.04:39
tonyyarussoSounds like about the amount of support you paid for, no?04:41
Takyojiand I would pay for support, but I get the feeling that I'm just going to get a person reading off a wiki04:44
tonyyarussonah, you get MagicFab and mneptok.04:44
h00k!support | Takyoji04:46
lubotu1Takyoji: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org04:46
h00kBahahahaha04:46
Takyojiand then I'm going to be told that it's "too broad" of symptoms04:46
Takyojiand I listed this bug a month ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/60419204:48
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 604192 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Screen goes blank and flashes vertical stripes on 1s interval" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:48
Takyojione person triaged it, and that's all that's happened to it04:48
TakyojiImportance not rated (considering it makes the damn system not usable at all) and not assigned to anyone.04:49
h00kIt all depends on how many people mark it as affecting them04:51
Takyojiand the people it's probably affecting are the ones with old systems that don't have a Launchpad account and don't have a straight path to finding my bug listing04:52
h00ksomething, yep.04:53
TakyojiI'll try to bug someone tomorrow about the details of: regression testing a kernel module, via the upstream X11 git repository, and compiling the kernel each time (on a 2GHz, single-core processor), and testing such every time..04:55
tonyyarussoWhat's the deal with these "and I'm a Mormon" ads?  Have they finally decided they should try convincing people they aren't really as crazy as we think?04:56
h00kads on TV?04:57
tonyyarussoyeah05:02
h00kthat's odd.05:02
sparklehistoryon the radio too05:10
TakyojiIsn't fsck supposed to check for filesystem inconsistencies and fix them if possible?05:53
Takyojibecause I've been running: sudo fsck /dev/sda505:53
Takyojiand it doesn't find any issues and never prompts me (except for "oh noes! this filesystem might be corrupt! Do you still want to scan? :o")05:54
Takyojiand then when I go to resize a partition, it complains about inconsistencies with the partition05:55
TakyojiYay, testdisk fixed the issue06:12

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