[01:20] <h00k> ripps!
[01:21] <ripps> h00k: yo
[01:21] <h00k> ripps: Nice job on the elementary-nautilus packaging
[01:21] <h00k> ripps: are you a MOTU yet?
[01:21] <ripps> h00k: nope
[01:22] <h00k> ripps: why not?
[01:22] <h00k> ripps: Also, you should try for membership!
[01:23] <ripps> h00k: Eh, need to write up an application, and I'm sure I've fixed enough Ubuntu bugs. I tend to fix bugs in the Ubuntu side-projects...
[01:23] <ripps> *not sure I've fixed enough Ubuntu bugs
[01:23] <h00k> so, you should create a wiki
[01:23] <h00k> and I encourage you to go for it
[01:23] <h00k> if you want.
[01:23] <h00k> !member
[01:23] <ripps> h00k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ripps818
[01:25] <h00k> ripps: yeah. I'm pretty sure you should go for it.
[01:26] <ripps> I've tried to apply for a MOTU mentorship, but nobody has gotten back to me.
[01:26] <h00k> Really?
[01:27] <h00k> ripps: how long ago was that?
[01:27] <ripps> h00k: a few months
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> My lappy is getting finicky, but I don't really feel like buying a new one yet...
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: btw, I got it running again, but it's still occasionally strange.  AFAICT, it's happy once it gets booted at least now.
[01:29] <h00k> ripps: using this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[01:29] <h00k> ripps: and also https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors
[01:31] <h00k> ripps: I mean, you can do as you wish, I think your skills are pretty cool
[01:32] <ripps> h00k: I could try, but I think my biggest barrier to membership is that most MOTU's aren't very familiar with me, so I'm not sure who I can get to vouch for me.
[01:32] <h00k> ripps: are you in #ubuntu-motu?
[01:32] <h00k> yep
[01:49] <h00k> sparklehistory: hello!
[01:49] <sparklehistory> Hi h00k!
[01:49] <h00k> How are you, this fine cloudy day?
[01:50] <sparklehistory> Pretty good, just makin myself some dinner
[01:50] <h00k> I haven't eaten dinner yet, I don't know what to make :(
[01:50] <sparklehistory> How are you?
[01:50] <h00k> I'm doing pretty alright! I can't complain.
[01:50] <sparklehistory> Mine has been a matter of pull it out of the fridge and toss it in the pan and see what happens
[01:51] <sparklehistory> I hear you recently got engaged, congratulations!
[01:52] <h00k> :D Thanks! I blame tonyyarusso for that one
[01:53] <sparklehistory> h00k: For telling me or getting engaged? :P
[01:54] <h00k> HAH. Telling you :)
[01:54] <h00k> It's okay, we told the internets on our site. And video, pics, etc.
[01:55] <sparklehistory> He did keep it a secret until after you proposed, and enjoyed tormenting me with the fact that there was something he knew that I didn't.
[01:56] <h00k> HAH!
[01:56] <h00k> Seriously?
[01:56] <sparklehistory> of course
[01:56] <h00k> >.<
[01:57] <sparklehistory> So what have you been up to this summer?
[01:58] <h00k> Oooh. working, mostly
[01:59] <sparklehistory> Same here, nothing too exciting
[01:59] <h00k> Uuum, driving the motorcycle when the weather is nice
[02:00] <sparklehistory> That sounds like fun!  I've been trying to get outside on the weekends, escape from the office atmosphere.
[02:01] <h00k> Yeah. Where 'bouts do you work? Or, what kind of work, rather?
[02:03] <sparklehistory> I work in the cities, in law.
[02:03] <h00k> Ah, okay.
[02:03] <sparklehistory> How about you?
[02:03] <h00k> I work for an IT company
[02:04] <h00k> in Rhinelander, WI
[02:08] <sparklehistory> ah, cool
[02:09] <h00k> So, we do IT for local businesses
[02:09] <sparklehistory> Do you do mainly open source?
[02:10] <h00k> unfortunately, no. We are a Microsoft Gold partner and provided mainly Microsoft options, but we're starting to become more open (mostly because of my influence) in providing the best option for the customer's needs
[02:12] <h00k> I'm trying to shake things up a bit
[02:12] <sparklehistory> that's good, it's always nice to let people know they have options
[02:13] <h00k> Yes
[02:13] <sparklehistory> It's was nice chatting with you, but I'm off to eat now
[02:13] <h00k> I use Ubuntu on my work-provided laptop and run Win 7 in a virtual machine for our tools like Go To Assist, etc
[02:14] <h00k> Enjoy dinner!
[02:14] <sparklehistory> thanks!
[02:23] <h00k> Ubuntu Wisconsin is having a meeting at 8:00pm on Wednesday in #ubuntu-us-wi if anyone would like to join! Topics will include Global Jam participation and potential release parties
[03:32]  * tonyyarusso waves
[03:33] <h00k> Hey there!
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> So, wanna buy me a new laptop?
[03:35] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: no....but you can buy yourself one :)
[03:35] <h00k> tonyyarusso: what did you do? I told you they don't work underwater
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> h00k: nothing, it's just old and used.  It's developed some sort of slightly loose connection in the motherboard or chipset or hard drive interface that causes it to pause occasionally, usually during early stages of the boot sequence.
[03:37] <h00k> did you run a memtest?
[03:37] <h00k> does it kernel panic?
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> I'm working on it as we speak, so it's functional, but I'm starting to think it's nearing retirement time (purchased 2005).
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> no, kernel's totally happy.
[03:37] <h00k> Interesting. I had a bad L2 cache and kernel panic'd, I was able to get a dump on netconsole
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> Symptoms are you'll type "Hello", "He" will print to the screen, then you rock it back and forth or press on the chassis a bit and then "llo" will print out.
[03:39] <h00k> ^o) what the hell
[03:39] <h00k> That shouldn't even...happen.
[03:39] <h00k> what does S.M.A.R.T. data say on your HD?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> I don't think this drive supports it
[03:39] <h00k> :(
[03:39] <h00k> Check with palimpset
[03:39] <h00k> or what it's called
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> oh, nvm "Has a few bad sectors" - guess it does.
[03:40] <h00k> how many is a few?
[03:40] <h00k> It should give you a detailed report
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> 2
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> on last check at least - manually running now
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> never any trouble reading or writing data either
[03:45] <h00k> Oh. 2?
[03:45] <h00k> that's nothing
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> right
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> I'm think like a solder joint between a component and the motherboard that popped off a bit.
[03:52] <h00k> I have a soldering iron you can borrow
[03:52] <h00k> and some hot-glue
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> I have one too, but I haven't found what's wrong yet - just a guess based on the symptoms.
[03:55] <h00k> Yeah, that is awkward. RAM is okay?
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> I was half-pondering selling it to Takyoji and making it his problem :P  (If I decide I can shell out for a replacement)
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> should be - RAM is non-original.
[03:56] <h00k> do a memtest, that can't hurt
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> true.  Need me to reboot though :P
[03:57] <Takyoji> I was just curious of it; was all
[03:57] <h00k> yeah. is that the machine you're on?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> yup
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: aww, fine
[03:58] <Takyoji> as might be able to find people interested
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> speaking off selling off old machines though, h00k was at one point half-interested in my desktop and never got back to me...
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> and I still need to send a quote for my keyboard to exigraff
[03:59] <h00k> tonyyarusso: oh yeah, tell me about it again? I totally forgot :D
[03:59]  * tonyyarusso looks for the spreadsheet
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> http://files.tonyyarusso.com/netvista_valuation.ods
[04:00] <h00k> netvista
[04:00] <h00k> makes me nervous
[04:00] <Takyoji> Good ol' oldie games. Was just playing Descent; and Cyberia before that; in DosBox
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> lordy, that was back in April
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> h00k: why?  It's a a pretty decent little machine.
[04:01] <h00k> tonyyarusso: just the 'Vista' part
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> ah, lol
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> Well, this was before Microsoft used that term, so...  (It's an IBM, btw, from toward the tail end of IBM making PCs before offloading to Lenovo.)
[04:02] <h00k> tonyyarusso: Ah, I remember this!
[04:02] <h00k> It's got a P4
[04:02] <h00k> 2 GiB NICs
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> yeah, lots of non-original goodies in there :P
[04:04] <h00k> nothing wrong with that!
[04:04] <h00k> I have like...$5 to my name until Friday.
[04:04] <h00k> I'll keep that in mind, although I have to be frugal with the wedding coming up
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> The caveat is that the P4 is the reason the power supply needs replacing, and the power supply is a non-standard form factor with limited options available.  So, either you need to a) Run the Celeron.  b) Replace the power supply regularly.  c) Mod it to hold a different power supply somehow.
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> pssssh, the bride's family is supposed to cover the wedding!
[04:06] <h00k> well, they're making a generous contribution, but it probably won't cover everything
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> updated the file to account for the extra couple of months of depreciation.
[04:08] <h00k> tonyyarusso: Would you consider assisting setting up a release party in the Duluth/Superior area?
[04:08] <h00k> tonyyarusso: ripps is the only one I'm aware of up there from MN, however
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> Sure, depending on what assisting entails
[04:09] <h00k> I have no idea.
[04:09] <h00k> I know there is also a user in Ashland that might be interested as well.
[04:09] <h00k> exigraff, Brittany, myself,
[04:10] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I'll look into it and let you know
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> If I do get a new laptop, I think the current top contender is http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=100
[04:19] <h00k> next time I can afford one, I'm getting a system76
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> They aren't even expensive...until you decide to trick it out because that's what geeks do.
[04:24] <h00k> 'course
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> Looks like a really nice one would be more than $1500, less than $2000.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> like, zillions times nicer than my current one
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> Core i7 vs. Pentium M?
[04:26] <h00k> i7
[04:26] <h00k> Pentium M?
[04:27] <h00k> M is single core~
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Yup.
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> I'm saying for comparison, not decision.  The ThinkPad is an M.
[04:30] <h00k> Oh, oh, I understand.
[04:30] <h00k> I was going to say...you're trying to make that decision?
[04:30] <h00k> I was going to make some generalizations about Minnesotans...
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> haha
[04:37] <Takyoji> When will I be able to ever find a modern and usable Linux distro that doesn't have a damn regression with my mother's desktop's graphics chipset?
[04:37] <Takyoji> Whereas it ALWAYS freezes after 20-30 minutes; the only thing movable is the mouse. And you can't switch to a virtual terminal
[04:37] <h00k> Takyoji: Tell Murphy to change that damn law.
[04:38] <Takyoji> 9.04 worked
[04:38] <Takyoji> 9.10 freezes after 20 minutes.
[04:38] <Takyoji> 10.04 freezes even shorter.
[04:39] <Takyoji> and I tried installing Fedora 13, but it freezes after an amount of time as well.
[04:39] <Takyoji> and all I've been given is "you'll have to do regression testing" and a wiki page, and no other assistence.
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Sounds like about the amount of support you paid for, no?
[04:44] <Takyoji> and I would pay for support, but I get the feeling that I'm just going to get a person reading off a wiki
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> nah, you get MagicFab and mneptok.
[04:46] <h00k> !support | Takyoji
[04:46] <h00k> Bahahahaha
[04:46] <Takyoji> and then I'm going to be told that it's "too broad" of symptoms
[04:48] <Takyoji> and I listed this bug a month ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/604192
[04:48] <Takyoji> one person triaged it, and that's all that's happened to it
[04:49] <Takyoji> Importance not rated (considering it makes the damn system not usable at all) and not assigned to anyone.
[04:51] <h00k> It all depends on how many people mark it as affecting them
[04:52] <Takyoji> and the people it's probably affecting are the ones with old systems that don't have a Launchpad account and don't have a straight path to finding my bug listing
[04:53] <h00k> something, yep.
[04:55] <Takyoji> I'll try to bug someone tomorrow about the details of: regression testing a kernel module, via the upstream X11 git repository, and compiling the kernel each time (on a 2GHz, single-core processor), and testing such every time..
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> What's the deal with these "and I'm a Mormon" ads?  Have they finally decided they should try convincing people they aren't really as crazy as we think?
[04:57] <h00k> ads on TV?
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[05:02] <h00k> that's odd.
[05:10] <sparklehistory> on the radio too
[05:53] <Takyoji> Isn't fsck supposed to check for filesystem inconsistencies and fix them if possible?
[05:53] <Takyoji> because I've been running: sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[05:54] <Takyoji> and it doesn't find any issues and never prompts me (except for "oh noes! this filesystem might be corrupt! Do you still want to scan? :o")
[05:55] <Takyoji> and then when I go to resize a partition, it complains about inconsistencies with the partition
[06:12] <Takyoji> Yay, testdisk fixed the issue