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techm3Hi. How can I get an ubuntu web based template for a loco team?19:29
mhall119techm3: hi there19:30
mhall119we currently have different serieses for different platforms19:30
mhall119there's light-base-theme, which is just the generic HTML/CSS19:30
mhall119also, light-wordpress-thme, light-drupal-theme, and the one I maintain: light-django-theme19:31
mhall119I don't think light-drupal-theme is ready for use yet, but light-django-theme is being used by loco.ubuntu.com, and I know there has been a good bit of work going on in light-wordpress-theme19:31
techm3ok. How can I get it?19:33
mhall119which one do you want?19:36
mhall119they're all on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website19:37
mhall119stas_: ping19:38
stas_mhall119: pong19:38
stas_howdy19:38
mhall119hi https://code.launchpad.net/~sushkov/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme/+merge/2955219:38
mhall119are we waiting on something to merge that?19:38
mhall119I noticed that light-wordpress-theme doesn't currently have anything in it19:39
mhall119https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida is my loco's team, I think we're using it pretty well19:39
mhall119bah, wrong channel19:40
stas_mhall119: its stable except one small issue, i would like to fix, but mainly i'm waiting for newz2000 and cjohnston to merge it into upstream branch19:41
mhall119are they waiting on anything, or just been busy?19:44
MTecknologyI forgot to rejoin this channel :(19:47
mhall119hi MTecknology19:47
MTecknologymhall119: hi19:47
MTecknologymhall119: I'll be massively busy today - but... coming into a short amount of free time to hammer out the issues with the theme :)19:48
MTecknologyI might also finish lal and get two packages into the universe19:48
mhall119stas_: I'm merging your branch into the series trunk19:48
mhall119no point in waiting when there's currently nothing there19:48
stas_mhall119: i dunno, if you can merge it it's ok19:49
stas_thanks19:49
MTecknologyIt seems like a lot of people are trading the extensibility of drupal for the usability of wordpress :P19:49
stas_MTecknology: i think wp is at least as extensibly as drupal :)19:49
mhall119MTecknology: having developed on both, I can see why19:49
stas_extensible*19:49
MTecknologystas_: check out api.drupal.org19:50
stas_should we exchange api docs? :)19:50
mhall119guy guys, I can settle this once and for all19:52
mhall119Django is better19:52
mhall119:P19:52
MTecknology:P19:52
stas_heh :)19:53
dakermhall119, +119:53
MTecknologyPHP > *; Wordpress > *; Drupal > *; Django > *; Python > *19:53
MTecknologyVim > Emacs19:53
MTecknology:D19:53
MTecknologyoh... Nginx > Apache > IIS19:54
mhall119http://xkcd.com/378/19:54
MTecknology:P Classic19:55
stas_!google xkcd religion19:55
ubot4stas_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:55
stas_fsck19:55
MTecknologyif the google plugin was enabled it'd be @google, but it's not19:56
stas_oh its atheists http://xkcd.com/774/19:56
mhall119http://xkcd.com/224/ has better religious commentary19:56
stas_too much to read :)19:57
mhall119lt;dr: God uses Perl19:58
stasguys we can use http://anthologize.org/about/ for team reports i think20:49
newz2000hey stas_, let's keep using GAE for the facebook app21:52
stas_oky :)21:52
newz2000we're goign to switch away from using javascript (or python) for the countdown, instead just symlink the correct image using cron21:52
stas_i'll do som code refactoring and write some docs so updating it can be a bzr push21:52
stas_thats nice21:53
stas_and simple21:53
newz2000and cachable21:53
newz2000;-)21:53
stas_:)21:53
newz2000stas_: what do you need from me on the community themes?21:53
stas_newz2000: mhall119 solved, the merge thingy21:54
stas_its ok now21:54
newz2000cool21:54
stas_though i might come with a small patch in short time21:54
stas_kim1 asked about one little feature21:54
newz2000I might come with a medium sized change in a short time. ;-)21:54
stas_newz2000: btw, how's going your wiki theme?21:55
newz2000good. It's working, just needs some polish here and there21:55
stas_great, can't wait to see it in the wild21:55
stas_and btw, wiki performance should be improved21:56
stas_its very slow :(21:56
newz2000you should have seen it before we drastically improved the performance21:56
newz2000(no, I'm not kidding)21:56
stas_wow21:56
* stas_ takes his words back21:56
knomenewz2000, what did you do to achieve that?21:57
* stas_ is back to work21:57
newz2000if I remember, we did somethign with the way it checks if you're logged in21:57
knomeright21:57
newz2000it was related to switching to the openid codebase21:57
knomeseems like it's way faster21:57
knomeahh..21:57
newz2000probably last fall when we did it, maybe time to go again21:58
knomehmm21:58
newz2000moin is not great for performance of big wikis22:01
knomehave you thought of migrating?22:02
newz2000 *I* have thought about it, and enough people are sick of it that I'm sure some have thought about it, but the amount of work would be massive22:03
knomeof course22:03
knomeyou can't get away with that easily, but after migration things would be easier and lighter, right? :)22:03
newz2000yeah22:03
newz2000you may know there's not a fond-ness of php in Canonical, and the nxt best solution is media-wiki, so would require a sacrifice of sorts in itself.22:04
knomeyeah..22:04
knomei kind of do not understand the php-haters22:04
newz2000there's two reasons I've heard22:05
newz2000one is that php tends to attract unskilled devs and there is a lot of low-quality php code floating around22:05
newz2000it used to be hard to write high-quality code, though that is not true now22:05
knomeyeah.22:06
newz2000the other argument is that php does not follow security best-practices when releasing fixes for vulnerabilities22:06
newz2000instead of back-porting solutions to past stable versions they just roll it in with new features in the next new version22:06
knomemm-hmm22:06
newz2000the two combine to give security-conscious people a dislike for php22:07
knomei understand, but i think it's still a bit harsh to call php a bad language22:08
knomei mean, i've faced with people who seem to think i'm a total idiot since i use php and think it's fine even for some tasks22:08
newz2000if php didn't have some good stuff then it wouldn't be so popular22:09
knomeand they just can't take in any arguments, they just live in their php-is-from-devil -bubble22:09
knomeit's quite good for web stuff, really22:09
newz2000tribalism22:09
newz2000:-)22:09
knomeit's weird that they had the new goto -feature ;)22:09
newz2000what's the goto feature?22:10
knomei heard they added a new feature, where you can "goto" to row x22:10
knomealso, the other minorish issue is that php is still not totally unicode-compatible22:11
mhall119newz2000: are you still managing the ubuntu-website project?23:44
mhall119or is it manager-less until your replacement is hired?23:44

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