[19:29] <techm3> Hi. How can I get an ubuntu web based template for a loco team?
[19:30] <mhall119> techm3: hi there
[19:30] <mhall119> we currently have different serieses for different platforms
[19:30] <mhall119> there's light-base-theme, which is just the generic HTML/CSS
[19:31] <mhall119> also, light-wordpress-thme, light-drupal-theme, and the one I maintain: light-django-theme
[19:31] <mhall119> I don't think light-drupal-theme is ready for use yet, but light-django-theme is being used by loco.ubuntu.com, and I know there has been a good bit of work going on in light-wordpress-theme
[19:33] <techm3> ok. How can I get it?
[19:36] <mhall119> which one do you want?
[19:37] <mhall119> they're all on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[19:38] <mhall119> stas_: ping
[19:38] <stas_> mhall119: pong
[19:38] <stas_> howdy
[19:38] <mhall119> hi https://code.launchpad.net/~sushkov/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme/+merge/29552
[19:38] <mhall119> are we waiting on something to merge that?
[19:39] <mhall119> I noticed that light-wordpress-theme doesn't currently have anything in it
[19:39] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida is my loco's team, I think we're using it pretty well
[19:40] <mhall119> bah, wrong channel
[19:41] <stas_> mhall119: its stable except one small issue, i would like to fix, but mainly i'm waiting for newz2000 and cjohnston to merge it into upstream branch
[19:44] <mhall119> are they waiting on anything, or just been busy?
[19:47] <MTecknology> I forgot to rejoin this channel :(
[19:47] <mhall119> hi MTecknology
[19:47] <MTecknology> mhall119: hi
[19:48] <MTecknology> mhall119: I'll be massively busy today - but... coming into a short amount of free time to hammer out the issues with the theme :)
[19:48] <MTecknology> I might also finish lal and get two packages into the universe
[19:48] <mhall119> stas_: I'm merging your branch into the series trunk
[19:48] <mhall119> no point in waiting when there's currently nothing there
[19:49] <stas_> mhall119: i dunno, if you can merge it it's ok
[19:49] <stas_> thanks
[19:49] <MTecknology> It seems like a lot of people are trading the extensibility of drupal for the usability of wordpress :P
[19:49] <stas_> MTecknology: i think wp is at least as extensibly as drupal :)
[19:49] <mhall119> MTecknology: having developed on both, I can see why
[19:49] <stas_> extensible*
[19:50] <MTecknology> stas_: check out api.drupal.org
[19:50] <stas_> should we exchange api docs? :)
[19:52] <mhall119> guy guys, I can settle this once and for all
[19:52] <mhall119> Django is better
[19:52] <mhall119> :P
[19:52] <MTecknology> :P
[19:53] <stas_> heh :)
[19:53] <daker> mhall119, +1
[19:53] <MTecknology> PHP > *; Wordpress > *; Drupal > *; Django > *; Python > *
[19:53] <MTecknology> Vim > Emacs
[19:53] <MTecknology> :D
[19:54] <MTecknology> oh... Nginx > Apache > IIS
[19:54] <mhall119> http://xkcd.com/378/
[19:55] <MTecknology> :P Classic
[19:55] <stas_> !google xkcd religion
[19:55] <ubot4> stas_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:55] <stas_> fsck
[19:56] <MTecknology> if the google plugin was enabled it'd be @google, but it's not
[19:56] <stas_> oh its atheists http://xkcd.com/774/
[19:56] <mhall119> http://xkcd.com/224/ has better religious commentary
[19:57] <stas_> too much to read :)
[19:58] <mhall119> lt;dr: God uses Perl
[20:49] <stas> guys we can use http://anthologize.org/about/ for team reports i think
[21:52] <newz2000> hey stas_, let's keep using GAE for the facebook app
[21:52] <stas_> oky :)
[21:52] <newz2000> we're goign to switch away from using javascript (or python) for the countdown, instead just symlink the correct image using cron
[21:52] <stas_> i'll do som code refactoring and write some docs so updating it can be a bzr push
[21:53] <stas_> thats nice
[21:53] <stas_> and simple
[21:53] <newz2000> and cachable
[21:53] <newz2000> ;-)
[21:53] <stas_> :)
[21:53] <newz2000> stas_: what do you need from me on the community themes?
[21:54] <stas_> newz2000: mhall119 solved, the merge thingy
[21:54] <stas_> its ok now
[21:54] <newz2000> cool
[21:54] <stas_> though i might come with a small patch in short time
[21:54] <stas_> kim1 asked about one little feature
[21:54] <newz2000> I might come with a medium sized change in a short time. ;-)
[21:55] <stas_> newz2000: btw, how's going your wiki theme?
[21:55] <newz2000> good. It's working, just needs some polish here and there
[21:55] <stas_> great, can't wait to see it in the wild
[21:56] <stas_> and btw, wiki performance should be improved
[21:56] <stas_> its very slow :(
[21:56] <newz2000> you should have seen it before we drastically improved the performance
[21:56] <newz2000> (no, I'm not kidding)
[21:56] <stas_> wow
[21:56]  * stas_ takes his words back
[21:57] <knome> newz2000, what did you do to achieve that?
[21:57]  * stas_ is back to work
[21:57] <newz2000> if I remember, we did somethign with the way it checks if you're logged in
[21:57] <knome> right
[21:57] <newz2000> it was related to switching to the openid codebase
[21:57] <knome> seems like it's way faster
[21:57] <knome> ahh..
[21:58] <newz2000> probably last fall when we did it, maybe time to go again
[21:58] <knome> hmm
[22:01] <newz2000> moin is not great for performance of big wikis
[22:02] <knome> have you thought of migrating?
[22:03] <newz2000>  *I* have thought about it, and enough people are sick of it that I'm sure some have thought about it, but the amount of work would be massive
[22:03] <knome> of course
[22:03] <knome> you can't get away with that easily, but after migration things would be easier and lighter, right? :)
[22:03] <newz2000> yeah
[22:04] <newz2000> you may know there's not a fond-ness of php in Canonical, and the nxt best solution is media-wiki, so would require a sacrifice of sorts in itself.
[22:04] <knome> yeah..
[22:04] <knome> i kind of do not understand the php-haters
[22:05] <newz2000> there's two reasons I've heard
[22:05] <newz2000> one is that php tends to attract unskilled devs and there is a lot of low-quality php code floating around
[22:05] <newz2000> it used to be hard to write high-quality code, though that is not true now
[22:06] <knome> yeah.
[22:06] <newz2000> the other argument is that php does not follow security best-practices when releasing fixes for vulnerabilities
[22:06] <newz2000> instead of back-porting solutions to past stable versions they just roll it in with new features in the next new version
[22:06] <knome> mm-hmm
[22:07] <newz2000> the two combine to give security-conscious people a dislike for php
[22:08] <knome> i understand, but i think it's still a bit harsh to call php a bad language
[22:08] <knome> i mean, i've faced with people who seem to think i'm a total idiot since i use php and think it's fine even for some tasks
[22:09] <newz2000> if php didn't have some good stuff then it wouldn't be so popular
[22:09] <knome> and they just can't take in any arguments, they just live in their php-is-from-devil -bubble
[22:09] <knome> it's quite good for web stuff, really
[22:09] <newz2000> tribalism
[22:09] <newz2000> :-)
[22:09] <knome> it's weird that they had the new goto -feature ;)
[22:10] <newz2000> what's the goto feature?
[22:10] <knome> i heard they added a new feature, where you can "goto" to row x
[22:11] <knome> also, the other minorish issue is that php is still not totally unicode-compatible
[23:44] <mhall119> newz2000: are you still managing the ubuntu-website project?
[23:44] <mhall119> or is it manager-less until your replacement is hired?