[19:29] Hi. How can I get an ubuntu web based template for a loco team? [19:30] techm3: hi there [19:30] we currently have different serieses for different platforms [19:30] there's light-base-theme, which is just the generic HTML/CSS [19:31] also, light-wordpress-thme, light-drupal-theme, and the one I maintain: light-django-theme [19:31] I don't think light-drupal-theme is ready for use yet, but light-django-theme is being used by loco.ubuntu.com, and I know there has been a good bit of work going on in light-wordpress-theme [19:33] ok. How can I get it? [19:36] which one do you want? [19:37] they're all on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website [19:38] stas_: ping [19:38] mhall119: pong [19:38] howdy [19:38] hi https://code.launchpad.net/~sushkov/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme/+merge/29552 [19:38] are we waiting on something to merge that? [19:39] I noticed that light-wordpress-theme doesn't currently have anything in it [19:39] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida is my loco's team, I think we're using it pretty well [19:40] bah, wrong channel [19:41] mhall119: its stable except one small issue, i would like to fix, but mainly i'm waiting for newz2000 and cjohnston to merge it into upstream branch [19:44] are they waiting on anything, or just been busy? [19:47] I forgot to rejoin this channel :( [19:47] hi MTecknology [19:47] mhall119: hi [19:48] mhall119: I'll be massively busy today - but... coming into a short amount of free time to hammer out the issues with the theme :) [19:48] I might also finish lal and get two packages into the universe [19:48] stas_: I'm merging your branch into the series trunk [19:48] no point in waiting when there's currently nothing there [19:49] mhall119: i dunno, if you can merge it it's ok [19:49] thanks [19:49] It seems like a lot of people are trading the extensibility of drupal for the usability of wordpress :P [19:49] MTecknology: i think wp is at least as extensibly as drupal :) [19:49] MTecknology: having developed on both, I can see why [19:49] extensible* [19:50] stas_: check out api.drupal.org [19:50] should we exchange api docs? :) [19:52] guy guys, I can settle this once and for all [19:52] Django is better [19:52] :P [19:52] :P [19:53] heh :) [19:53] mhall119, +1 [19:53] PHP > *; Wordpress > *; Drupal > *; Django > *; Python > * [19:53] Vim > Emacs [19:53] :D [19:54] oh... Nginx > Apache > IIS [19:54] http://xkcd.com/378/ [19:55] :P Classic [19:55] !google xkcd religion [19:55] stas_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:55] fsck [19:56] if the google plugin was enabled it'd be @google, but it's not [19:56] oh its atheists http://xkcd.com/774/ [19:56] http://xkcd.com/224/ has better religious commentary [19:57] too much to read :) [19:58] lt;dr: God uses Perl [20:49] guys we can use http://anthologize.org/about/ for team reports i think [21:52] hey stas_, let's keep using GAE for the facebook app [21:52] oky :) [21:52] we're goign to switch away from using javascript (or python) for the countdown, instead just symlink the correct image using cron [21:52] i'll do som code refactoring and write some docs so updating it can be a bzr push [21:53] thats nice [21:53] and simple [21:53] and cachable [21:53] ;-) [21:53] :) [21:53] stas_: what do you need from me on the community themes? [21:54] newz2000: mhall119 solved, the merge thingy [21:54] its ok now [21:54] cool [21:54] though i might come with a small patch in short time [21:54] kim1 asked about one little feature [21:54] I might come with a medium sized change in a short time. ;-) [21:55] newz2000: btw, how's going your wiki theme? [21:55] good. It's working, just needs some polish here and there [21:55] great, can't wait to see it in the wild [21:56] and btw, wiki performance should be improved [21:56] its very slow :( [21:56] you should have seen it before we drastically improved the performance [21:56] (no, I'm not kidding) [21:56] wow [21:56] * stas_ takes his words back [21:57] newz2000, what did you do to achieve that? [21:57] * stas_ is back to work [21:57] if I remember, we did somethign with the way it checks if you're logged in [21:57] right [21:57] it was related to switching to the openid codebase [21:57] seems like it's way faster [21:57] ahh.. [21:58] probably last fall when we did it, maybe time to go again [21:58] hmm [22:01] moin is not great for performance of big wikis [22:02] have you thought of migrating? [22:03] *I* have thought about it, and enough people are sick of it that I'm sure some have thought about it, but the amount of work would be massive [22:03] of course [22:03] you can't get away with that easily, but after migration things would be easier and lighter, right? :) [22:03] yeah [22:04] you may know there's not a fond-ness of php in Canonical, and the nxt best solution is media-wiki, so would require a sacrifice of sorts in itself. [22:04] yeah.. [22:04] i kind of do not understand the php-haters [22:05] there's two reasons I've heard [22:05] one is that php tends to attract unskilled devs and there is a lot of low-quality php code floating around [22:05] it used to be hard to write high-quality code, though that is not true now [22:06] yeah. [22:06] the other argument is that php does not follow security best-practices when releasing fixes for vulnerabilities [22:06] instead of back-porting solutions to past stable versions they just roll it in with new features in the next new version [22:06] mm-hmm [22:07] the two combine to give security-conscious people a dislike for php [22:08] i understand, but i think it's still a bit harsh to call php a bad language [22:08] i mean, i've faced with people who seem to think i'm a total idiot since i use php and think it's fine even for some tasks [22:09] if php didn't have some good stuff then it wouldn't be so popular [22:09] and they just can't take in any arguments, they just live in their php-is-from-devil -bubble [22:09] it's quite good for web stuff, really [22:09] tribalism [22:09] :-) [22:09] it's weird that they had the new goto -feature ;) [22:10] what's the goto feature? [22:10] i heard they added a new feature, where you can "goto" to row x [22:11] also, the other minorish issue is that php is still not totally unicode-compatible [23:44] newz2000: are you still managing the ubuntu-website project? [23:44] or is it manager-less until your replacement is hired?