[01:00] <Niglop> how can I edit my theme in xfce?
[01:05] <schlaftier> Niglop: you mean really edit a particular theme or just choose between themes? And are you referring to window decorations or the GTK theme?
[01:06] <Niglop> um schlaftier I have 'shiki-wise' as my theme
[01:06] <Niglop> I want to change the color of the text in my panel
[01:27] <Sysi> Niglop: you can propably edit gtkrc in folder where theme is, but you have to know how to
[01:36] <RJ_F1> how do I change keybindings? More specifically, I am on a HP laptop with the Volume Up-Down buttons, and I read an article on how to set them to virtual F-buttons, F21,22,and 23
[01:37] <RJ_F1> but the article I read was for openbox.
[01:38] <RJ_F1> anybody?
[01:41] <Niglop> yeah Sysi  I just don't know what syntax to enter
[01:46] <RJ_F1> does anybody know the answer to my question? or should I try a different channel?
[04:26] <picard1421> hey guys can i install GDM themes on xubuntu
[04:26] <picard1421> like not the GDM2 which you cannot theme the login screen.. like login screen themes for GDM1 ? etc..?
[04:27] <picard1421> ??
[04:27] <picard1421> i was thinking about installing Xubuntu instead of Gnome ubuntu.. beccause the new gnome has the GDM2
[04:28] <picard1421> i want to install the normal style GDM themes... for the login.. can xubuntu 10.04 do that?
[04:33] <picard1421> any xubus out there?
[05:02] <Niglop> How can I edit the color of the font in my panel?
[05:05] <Niglop> how can I change the color of my font on my panel?
[06:04] <picard1421> anyone here?
[06:05] <picard1421> i had a question about installing XDM
[06:05] <picard1421> i want to use GDM themes ... but obviously a very light GUI login screen
[06:05] <picard1421> xubuntu 10.04 is not GDM its GDM2 correct? im trying to install XDM on a regualr karmic server install..
[06:06] <picard1421> so i intalled x with sudo apt-get install xinit and also install xdm.. but whenever i boot it goes to CLI???C?C?C?
[06:52] <pleia2> ii  gdm                                   2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu3                       GNOME Display Manager
[06:53] <pleia2> looks like gdm 2.3
[06:53] <picard1421> yea
[06:53] <picard1421> i dont want that
[06:53] <picard1421> ,ol
[06:53] <picard1421> lol
[06:53] <picard1421> want GDM1
[06:53] <pleia2> you'll have to use an older version of ubuntu for older packages
[06:54] <pleia2> but even 8.04 from over 2 years ago ships with 2.2
[06:55] <pleia2> gdm1 is pretty old :\
[06:56] <pleia2> there are a number of themes for gdm in the repository, what problem are you having exactly?
[07:08] <picard1421> ok..
[07:08] <picard1421> pleia2: are you  tehre
[07:08] <pleia2> yes
[07:09] <picard1421> i want to use this theme
[07:09] <picard1421> in XDM
[07:09] <picard1421> or GDM doesnt matter
[07:09] <picard1421> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/SystemAccess?content=52145
[07:09] <picard1421> im not sure how to do it..
[07:09] <pleia2> I think you'll have to use gdm
[07:10] <pleia2> but I really don't know much about theming, might want to ask in #ubuntu
[07:10] <pleia2> just ask how to install a theme from gnome-look
[11:36] <Graciasfidel> hi all
[11:37] <Graciasfidel> i've installed a fresh xubuntu 10.04, and i have a little problem with qt4-theme
[11:40] <Graciasfidel> on session xubuntu the theme gkt is not used with application qt, but on session xfce the theme gkt is used
[11:40] <Graciasfidel> why ?
[11:40] <Sysi> xfce uses gtk
[11:41] <Sysi> qt-programs use qt
[11:41] <Graciasfidel> ok but why on session xubuntu the theme gkt is not used with application qt, but on session xfce the theme gkt is used
[11:41] <Sysi> qt-apps don't use gtk-theme
[11:42] <Sysi> (of course there are exeptions)
[11:43] <Graciasfidel> i speak a seesion with gdm
[11:43] <Graciasfidel> session*
[11:43] <Graciasfidel> you want a screenshot ?
[11:44] <Sysi> it maybe makes things more clear
[11:50] <Graciasfidel> first screenshot is on xubuntu session with qjackctl
[11:50] <Graciasfidel> http://www.imagup.com/pics/1280893444.html
[11:51] <Graciasfidel> 2 on xfce session with qjackctl
[11:51] <Graciasfidel> http://www.imagup.com/pics/1280893572.html
[11:53] <Sysi> oh right, now i got it
[11:53] <Graciasfidel> :)
[11:54] <Sysi> they're handling them differenly for some reason, but at least they work in other :P
[11:55] <Graciasfidel> :P
[13:21] <Ileden> Hi! Ubuntu/gnome has a nice way of moving windows around workspaces, but pressing ctrl-shift-alt with arrow keys. Is there a way to duplicate this in xubuntu?
[13:22] <TheSheep> Ileden: yes, you can set the keys in window manager setttings
[13:28] <Ileden> TheSheep: really? I thought I had looked there...
[13:29] <Ileden> gah, apparently not.
[13:29] <Ileden> oh well, thanks for helping this silly person :D
[13:31] <tesuji> can someone tell me how to change boot options with livecd?
[14:08] <slow-motion> hi
[14:17] <brain_> hi good morning people
[15:24] <br41ng33k> scan
[15:24] <br41ng33k> hi good morning people
[15:24] <knome> !hi | br41ng33k
[15:24] <vinnl> Good afternoon :)
[15:24] <knome> oh hai vinnl
[15:25] <vinnl> Hey knome :)
[15:27] <charlie-tca> hey, vinnl
[15:27] <knome> hoi charlie-tca
[15:27] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[15:27] <Sysi> ohai ppl
[15:28] <vinnl> Hey charlie-tca en Sysi :)
[15:28] <vinnl> Getting busy around here :)
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Hello, Sysi
[17:13] <tesuji> can anyone tell me how to install a bootable xubuntu onto a usb?  this is not a job for usb-creator - it does make a bootbale usb but directories that should be owned by root are instead owned by user 1000 so that you don't have to sudo, and that is gonna cause problems down the road
[17:14] <Sysi> you want real installation to the stick?
[17:14] <Sysi> take off your hdd and do normal installation from cd
[17:15] <charlie-tca> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/
[17:16] <tesuji> charlie-tca, it helps if you read the ques before you give the answer :)
[17:17] <charlie-tca> Maybe the question was not clear, then?
[17:17] <charlie-tca> It also helps to answer questions asked, if you want help.
[17:19] <tesuji> charlie-tca, i said explicitly i cannot use the solution you gave
[17:19] <Sysi> how about mine
[17:19] <tesuji> sysi i give it a try
[17:21] <charlie-tca> I am sorry. I will not attempt to help you again
[17:21] <slow-motion> bye
[17:25] <tesuji> charlie-tca, i apologize for barking at you, completely undeserved
[17:27] <tesuji> charlie-tca, fyi - if a person is going to run off the usb he needs a rela install on the usb - what usb-creator makes is just a livecd on the usb - not the same
[17:28] <charlie-tca> That was the question asked by Sysi that never got an answer. I could not read what you were thinking.
[17:29] <tesuji> charlie-tca, it was the answer i was looking for - in the process of trying that right now
[17:29] <charlie-tca> good to hear. I am glad you got an answer then.
[17:35] <tesuji> i am using xubuntu because my machine has limited memory - will the system be lighter if i dump the gnome compatibility stuff, and if so, how do i do that?
[17:37] <tesuji> hello?
[18:01] <tesuji> Sysi, i installed to the thumbdrive as you suggested but it doesn't boot...
[18:06] <Sysi> you put grub there too? it should boot, if you have set it in bios
[18:06] <tesuji> Sysi, i just ran the install, whatever the install does, doesn't it always install grub?
[18:07] <Sysi> it does
[18:07] <tesuji> Sysi, this computer will boot off the thumbdrive, have done it many times
[18:07] <Sysi> do you get *anything*?
[18:07] <tesuji> Sysi, no
[18:07] <tesuji> Sysi, flashing cursor, that's all
[19:17] <Graciasfidel> bye all
[20:06] <br41ng33k> qitr
[20:06] <br41ng33k> exit
[20:06] <br41ng33k> quit
[20:07] <Sysi> (just do it :)
[20:08] <statue2> Hello. I seem to have no sound, after upgrading from xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. I've  been lurking for hours trying to find solutions, tried out many, and still have no  sound. Could someone please help me?
[20:09] <statue2> Just as a note, I'm on a ~9yr old laptop
[20:09] <statue2> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:16] <statue2> ~sigh~
[20:16] <charlie-tca> !sound
[20:18] <statue2> charlie-tca: thanks. I've been to 2/3 of those, but I guess it's time to check the third :p
[20:18] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:18] <statue2> ugh
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I got about 4 installations running at one time, so a little busy here
[20:18] <statue2> such an annoying problem
[20:18] <statue2> that's okay. I can wait/check stuff out first
[20:19] <Sysi> 9.10 had lots of sound problems
[20:20] <statue2> it seems so
[20:20] <statue2> :/
[20:21] <statue2> and when I tried to switch to 10.04 (a while back), all hell broke loose
[20:41] <sjjh> hi, I've problems with a fresh installed xubuntu 10.04
[20:41] <sjjh> for the German speaki
[20:41] <sjjh> *ng people: I've followed this howto: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/System_verschl%C3%BCsseln/Alternate_Installation
[20:42] <sjjh> In english: I've used the alternate CD to create a encypted installation using LVM
[20:42] <sjjh> but now I can't boot my notebook.
[20:43] <sjjh> I can enter my passphrase, but after an ok-message I only get an empty screen
[20:43] <sjjh> anybody know what to do?
[20:44] <sjjh> booting the rescue system with the alternate CD is no problem. but I didn't found any usefull stuff in /var/log/
[20:48] <charlie-tca> switch using Ctrl+Alt+F2 and then back to Alt+F7 sometimes works
[20:50] <sjjh> here not. :-/
[20:50] <sjjh> still only a blank screen.
[20:51] <sjjh> is it possible to see the messages, what the laptop is atm doing?
[20:52] <sjjh> I mean, I don't get a spash-screen, but nervertheless there should be some more messages after "cryptsetup: sda_crypt setup successfully", shoudln't?
[20:53] <charlie-tca> yes, but they may on tty1 or 6 instead of the one it is on
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Sometimes switching through the ttys will show them
[20:54] <sjjh> well STRG+ALT+F1 ... F8 didn't show anything
[20:55] <charlie-tca> and you are sure you used the correct passphrase? They are case sensitive, you know.
[20:55] <sjjh> yes, I'm shure.
[20:55] <charlie-tca> that's a bug then
[20:55] <sjjh> I get the "cryptsetup: sda_crypt setup successfully" message
[20:56] <sjjh> so it should be correct. And I can start the rescuesystem (using the alternate cd), and there I can mount my encrypted /
[20:57] <sjjh> well, it's an fujitsu siemens lifebook S7010, it's an older one. so no brand new (not yet support) hardware.
[20:59] <sjjh> and here it sais, that it is (better "was") supportet in ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Might be an issue with the video card instead of the encrypted file system
[21:04] <sjjh> but I can see the passphrase enter-dialog. so I should be able to see some text messages what'S going on on tty 1 to 8, shouldn't I?
[21:05] <sjjh> Is there anything I can check/edit with the rescue system? I can mount / so I would be able to edit X11 config or so...
[21:05] <charlie-tca> no, because it switches to a framebuffer after that
[21:06] <sjjh> ok. any log I should check?
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Try holding the shift key during the boot, and see if the grub menu will come up. then you can edit the boot line and remove splash quiet to see what is happening
[21:06] <charlie-tca> It will be before the passphrase is asked for
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Errors should show up in /var/log/syslog
[21:08] <sjjh> deleting quit splash was good.
[21:09] <charlie-tca> That's a one time boot thing. To make it permanent, you remove them in /etc/default/grub
[21:09] <sjjh> nearly... I just turned around my head an all messages were gone. blank screen again. No messages any more on tty1-8
[21:09] <sjjh> but there where some lines, so it is actually doing *anything*.
[21:10] <charlie-tca> video card issues.
[21:10] <sjjh> I'll use the altrnate cd again and have a look in /var/log/syslog
[21:11] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/ might help you
[21:12] <sjjh> thx "blank on startup issuses" sounds familiar
[21:15] <charlie-tca> They don't specifically address encrypted drives, but it should be the same after you entered the passphrase
[21:16] <sjjh> yeah, I can enter the correct passpharse, thats realy not the problem, and without "quiet slash" I still see something hppening. It will be a problem with the video card
[21:17] <sjjh> FYI: syslog is 0 byte
[21:17] <sjjh> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen they suggest to log in at tty1. But I don't get so far, I don't get a text login prompt.
[21:22] <sjjh> I tried to collect some xrandr data like toled here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot -- blank screen again, need to reboot...
[21:26] <sjjh> mh, I tried to create the xrandr-file in /tmp, but after reeboting there is no file...
[21:27] <sjjh> another try in /root
[21:43] <sjjh> no luck again
[21:47] <sjjh> strange no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:52] <sjjh> after creating an xorg.conf with only the section "Device" with using the vesa driver (like here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen) I was able to boot...
[21:52] <sjjh> charlie-tca BIG thx for your help!
[21:52] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:54] <sjjh> no I can go to bed with a happy smile on my face. :-D
[21:55] <charlie-tca> :-)
[21:56] <sjjh> but strange, that the xorg.conf was missing completely, and that creating a nearly empty one did the trick.
[21:56] <knome> sjjh, it's normal to not have xorg.conf in the new ubuntu releases
[21:56] <charlie-tca> xorg.conf is no longer created by default. Most systems will work without one. If you create it, it will then be used
[21:57] <sjjh> mh I don'T have the heart to delete it... :-D
[21:57] <sjjh> maybe tomorow.
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Keep it, it won't hurt anything
[21:58] <knome> except the HD and CPU >:)
[21:58] <sjjh> charlie-tca do you know the defult permissions that the xorg.cof should have? because I gave it 777 to make sure that missing permissions are no problem...
[21:59] <sjjh> well, therefor I chose Xubuntu and not Ubuntu, to have some HD and CPU in spare ;-)
[21:59] <charlie-tca> 644
[21:59] <knome> and probably owned by root
[22:00] <sjjh> it is root:root
[22:00] <charlie-tca> permissions are 644
[22:00] <sjjh> thx. will change that
[22:02] <sjjh> wow WLAN access without preoblems - didn'T have that with my desktop pc
[22:03] <charlie-tca> heh
[22:03] <sjjh> beside I liked cable better (for a desktop)
[22:04] <sjjh> but wireless is cool for a laptop :-D
[22:15] <slow-motion> hi
[22:20] <sjjh> hi slow-motion
[22:20] <slow-motion> hi sjjh
[22:20] <sjjh> if yo've got a question/problem just start asking :-)
[22:21] <Sysi> s-m is oldie :)
[22:22] <sjjh> okay, even better when you are here without a problem - than you can help people like me. :-D ;-)
[22:56] <sjjh> gn8