[08:12] <alkisg> !info udhcp maverick
[08:12] <alkisg> !info udhcpc maverick
[15:35] <gnoob> Hi guys:) Is edulinux and edubuntu basicly the same thing? Or is edulinux redhat'ish and not ubuntu based?  Or you know if edulinux is existing at all?
[15:45] <highvoltage> gnoob: hey! I work for the company that used to maintain edulinux
[15:46] <highvoltage> gnoob: and I'm currently and edubuntu contributor
[15:46] <highvoltage> edulinux doesn't really exist anymore and the contributors got absorbed into edubuntu, although personally I wasn't involved with edulinux at that time
[15:59] <alkisg> highvoltage: will there be a meeting tonight?
[16:00] <highvoltage> alkisg: yep
[16:00] <alkisg> Ty
[16:00]  * highvoltage checks calendar to not be confused by time-zone differences again
[16:01] <coz_> hey guys... I have edubuntu / lucid on one machine and downloaded the edubuntu maverick dvd...I tried several ways to mount the dvd iso to do an upgrade with no success... am I missing something?
[16:13] <gnoob> highvoltage  OK, thanks:)   Im planning to toss out windows from a computerlab and want a linux terminalserver solution. Is edubuntu easy to set up and maintain?  I see that edulinux had a nice http interface for configuring server and for blocking sites and stuff,  this is very interesting, do edubuntu got this posibility too?
[16:14] <highvoltage> gnoob: not really, but there are other alternatives
[16:15] <highvoltage> gnoob: I'm wondering if we could get something like http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/gnome-nanny/ into the archives in time for maverick, it seems quite handy
[16:18] <gnoob> cool :) gnome nanny looks nice
[16:42] <gnoob> Anyone knows whats the best way to run cad software on edubuntu clients?  Is it as easy as this?? : chroot /somewhere/clientOS/ ; aptitude install qcad (or freecad or whatever?)?
[16:43] <alkisg> gnoob: chroot? are you using ltsp?
[16:43] <alkisg> With ltsp, you just install qcad on the server normally, from synaptic
[16:44] <gnoob> no,  but read about ltsp.. thought it was basicly the same thing..
[16:44] <gnoob> ok so ltsp and edubuntu have completely different ways of managing client OS's  (no wonder why I got confused :P)
[16:45] <alkisg> gnoob: erm, no
[16:45] <alkisg> There's no "client os" concent in edubuntu
[16:45] <alkisg> There's no client/server concept in edubuntu
[16:45] <alkisg> You can use LTSP on edubuntu of course
[16:46] <alkisg> But edubuntu by itself doesn't have a chroot or anything like that. When we need a client/server model, we use LTSP on edubuntu for that.
[16:48] <gnoob> Edubuntu used as a server needs LTSP to serve thin clients then?
[16:49] <alkisg> Erm, yes, it includes ltsp
[16:49] <alkisg> (when checked during the installation)
[16:51] <gnoob> thanks for clearing things up alkisg :)
[16:51] <alkisg> gnoob: no problem. For ltsp questions, you can ask either here or in #ltsp
[16:55] <gnoob> For installing a linux terminal server with edubuntu what iso should I install from?  ubuntu-alternate?  My dream would be something installed on a debian server with no X, and a web interface for the simple configuring. (and a good howto for a vanilla install) :)
[16:56] <alkisg> You can install debian/ltsp, but X and gnome will be required to be installed on the server, to show a GUI on the clients
[16:56] <alkisg> Because the clients get the server's desktop environment
[16:57] <alkisg> You can install either with the edubuntu dvd (contains ltsp) or with the ubuntu alternate cd (press F4 during boot) or even with the ubuntu desktop cd (install ltsp afterwards) or with debian, whatever you like.
[16:58] <gnoob> ok :)   I will defenitely go for edubuntu then
[17:03] <gnoob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall     I will try to follow this howto. Looks extremely easy! I hope its as easy as it looks :)
[17:04] <gnoob> Thanks for great help alkisg and highvoltage:)  Going to start setting up a test server soon
[17:28] <dgroos> Howdy All
[17:28] <dgroos> Meeting later?
[17:28] <dgroos> ... in about 2.5 hours?
[17:40] <highvoltage> dgroos: yep!
[18:28] <gnoob> sudo ltsp-build-client     Can someone help a little on this command. Does it take the server installation and make the client from that?  So if I install qcad e.g,  then Ill have to build client afterward?
[18:29] <highvoltage> gnoob: the client only contains enough data to make a system that makes the thin client boot up
[18:29] <highvoltage> gnoob: you just need to have qcad installed on your server and the thin client will run it from there
[18:29] <gnoob> ohh ok :D
[18:30] <highvoltage> it builds the thin client environment using ubuntu packages, so you'll just need an internet connection
[18:30] <gnoob> a lot easier than I thought
[19:28] <Lns> Did I miss the meeting? :/
[19:31] <highvoltage> Lns: it's in 30 mins
[19:31] <Lns> highvoltage: cool thanks :)
[19:53] <highvoltage> alkisg, dgroos, dinda, Lns, mhall119, ogra, stgraber: edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting inabout 8 minutes!
[19:53] <alkisg> Ty :)
[19:55] <mhall119> ok
[19:55] <mhall119> I'll be in and out
[20:57] <dgroos> Thanks highvoltage for making this meeting happen.  Like you, I'd like to see more teachers voices, here.  Seems like there has recently been a lull in edubuntu noise.  Excepting alkisg's multitudes of posts yesterday!
[20:57] <alkisg> dgroos: heh sorry those are generated automatically from launchpad
[20:57] <highvoltage> hehe :)
[20:57] <alkisg> I didn't mail anything :)
[20:58] <dgroos> go for it, then!
[20:58] <highvoltage> I have a bunch of alkisg's posts marked as unread that I've read but still want to respond to :)
[20:58] <highvoltage> dgroos: oh, I mean, your mails, actually :)
[20:58] <highvoltage> dgroos: especially your documentation ideas
[20:58] <highvoltage> (sorry that I thought that was alkisg :))
[20:59] <dgroos> I'm honored!
[21:00]  * highvoltage goes back to -meeting for a bit to finish taking notes
[21:01] <dgroos> If we had a central area that isn't overly large to organize a concise set of essential how-to's along with a set of less-essential but still important how-tos, that would be widely useful, I'd say.
[21:03] <dgroos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/BasicSetup
[22:20] <uros1> highvoltage, please i can`t login in this site http://learn.ufbt.net/user/policy.php
[22:23] <highvoltage> uros1: ah, I had some problems earlier as well
[22:23] <uros1> ok next time
[22:23] <highvoltage> it seems to fail when you register, but it sends you an e-mail with a link that works when you click on it
[22:23] <highvoltage> it will then give you a page to update your details, then you just have to click on submit and you should be logged in then
[22:24] <uros1> ok
[22:30] <Darkfull> help http://www.4security.com.br/2010/08/04/um-servidor-perfeito-debian-lenny-ispconfig-2/
[22:33] <Darkfull> ou http://www.4security.com.br/tube/2010/07/31/realvnc-v4-bypass-authentication-exploit/