| CIA-98 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803231822-qxa4kggx32tde8n7 * (12 files in 3 dirs) No more linking against kwallet && gnomekeyring support && as a result ::clear() is broken && less kde in the upper levels (still we need quite some KDE foo for the build) | 00:19 |
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| gnomelogger | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc/files/head:/src/plugins/ | 00:21 |
| gnomelogger | there | 00:21 |
| gnomelogger | my Qt implementation is now officially superior | 00:21 |
| === gnomelogger is now known as supremeDalek | ||
| Riddell | Quintasan: hmm kdebindings goes boom here too | 00:31 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803233140-wdxzzrhwz5nvbcy0 * src/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h) fix clear again | 00:31 |
| yofel | hm, oxygen-molecule looks cool, now if it would have a dark variant ~.~ | 00:36 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803234742-aw3tkh4rcrvvjm9r * src/ (AccessToken.cpp HttpDaemon.cpp main.cpp) warning-- | 00:47 |
| yofel | hrhr http://imagebin.ca/view/753bn3.html | 00:48 |
| === supremeDalek is now known as apachelogger | ||
| CIA-98 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803235033-1p56mkon2z4b75ek * src/plugins/SecretsInterface.h add copyright notice | 00:50 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803235654-pdb1ce3mn3zkm9jo * debian/ (4 files) Add backend packaging and build-dep on libgnome-keyring-dev | 00:57 |
| Riddell | 4.5 release moved back to Thursday (probably) | 01:00 |
| === apachelogger is now known as supremeapachelog | ||
| ScottK | Lovely. | 01:47 |
| ScottK | Well we've got it, even if no one else does ... | 01:47 |
| claydoh | a selling point maybe :D | 02:01 |
| rbelem | hi Riddell | 02:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, do you know if agateau returned from the holidays? :-) | 02:36 |
| === rbelem is now known as rbelem-afk | ||
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1158907 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) (log message trimmed) | 03:49 |
| CIA-98 | Subclass MuonMainWindow's errorOccurred function so that we can properly return | 03:49 |
| CIA-98 | from errors (Such as the UserCancelError, or AuthError). This occurred when I | 03:49 |
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1158908 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Very unnecessary QString construction-- | 03:50 |
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1158909 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Clean up the software-properties-kde launching code | 03:57 |
| nixternal | how is knr in mav? | 04:45 |
| === hrw|gone is now known as hrw | ||
| Tm_T | supremeapachelog: son, I have a small build issues | 09:16 |
| Mamarok | Riddell, claydoh: giovanni_re is at it again. one more post like this and he is moderated again, as will be all those who continue | 09:30 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: where's this? | 10:39 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: hmm, that thread should be stopped at least, as being woefully rambling and off topic | 10:42 |
| Tm_T | why they think attacking back at list-operator would help their cause? | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | ...other than playing a victim | 10:51 |
| === supremeapachelog is now known as apachelogger | ||
| apachelogger | Tm_T: how did that happen? | 10:55 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: something like... this: *** No rule to make target usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/com.ubuntu.sso.xml', needed by rc/api/ComUbuntuSsoInterface.cpp'. Stop. | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | upstream thought it a good idea split off the authentication | 10:58 |
| Tm_T | sounds... fun | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | hence ubuntu-sso is now a new buildep | 10:58 |
| Tm_T | shame cmake didn't yell it at me | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | also my implementation is superior in but every aspect anyway :P | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: I did not come around to implement proper checking for it | 10:59 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: makes sense (: | 11:00 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: bzr/ubuntu-sso-client/src/AccessToken.cpp:45: error: ‘class QOAuth::Interface’ has no member named ‘networkAccessManager’ | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | libqoauth-dev | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | OTOH that should fail | 11:01 |
| Tm_T | "libqoauth-dev is already the newest version." so yes | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | that is odd | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | QNetworkAccessManager* networkAccessManager() const; | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | public interface | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: any other useful information? | 11:03 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473031/ | 11:03 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why his qt creator has so large fonts | 11:04 | |
| Tm_T | there's plenty of more if I go and do make -iks | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | ...have to install some gnome-keyring -dev package I suppose | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: yeah | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | not conditional as of now | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: also I did not push my latest changes it seems | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | (:) | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | or maybe I did :O | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | try again | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: are you sure you do not have an old version of qoauth floating around? | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: apparently not, as locate couldn't find any other ones | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: in CMakeCache.txt in your build dir what does PC_QOAuth_VERSION:INTERNAL contain? | 11:11 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: 1.0.0 | 11:12 |
| Tm_T | libqoauth-dev_1.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_i386.deb is the package I have installed | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | ohhhhhhhhhhh | 11:12 |
| Tm_T | let me quess, I should be using Maverick? | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | requires 1.0.1 now I suppose | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: yeah, I am targetting maverick now as to reach release quality | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: but as long as you get the qoauth source from mav and have KDE 4.5 installed your are fine too | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | although | 11:13 |
| Tm_T | ye | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | actually not | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: that upstream change to ubuntu-sso broke backwards compability of authorization completely :( | 11:13 |
| Tm_T | thoh | 11:13 |
| Tm_T | and version number rised with ..1 ? | 11:14 |
| Tm_T | raised | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | no | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | .+1. I think | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | !info ubuntuone-client | 11:16 |
| ubottu | ubuntuone-client (source: ubuntuone-client): Ubuntu One client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 23 kB, installed size 476 kB | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | !info ubuntuone-client maverick | 11:16 |
| ubottu | ubuntuone-client (source: ubuntuone-client): Ubuntu One client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 23 kB, installed size 148 kB | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: 1.2 to 1.3 | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | still not sufficient IMHO | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | but it is pyth0rn, one must be happy to get any visible bump at all | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | opinions on http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/envy/pdf/envy14_datasheet.pdf ? | 11:18 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: right, thanks (: | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: you could of couse backport the ubuntuone-client too ;) | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/plugins/GnomeKeyringSecretsInterface.cpp <-- I am now becoming gnome developer too muahhaha ^^ | 11:23 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: let me get my kmail working first (; | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:32 |
| Tm_T | ...been without it since 4.5 development cycle started | 11:32 |
| * apachelogger gets depressed over the crap notebooks on the market right now -.- | 11:33 | |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: uhhh, did you upgrade to kdepim 4.5? :P | 11:33 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I've been with trunk since year... can't remember | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: poor mom ^^ | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | aha! | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | perfect | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | hp envy 14 seems to come with broken bios | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | for free | 11:34 |
| * apachelogger kicks it off the list of potential notebooks | 11:35 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I consider the authentication to be 1.0 beta | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | only proxy support is really missing and I doubt the python client does that either | 11:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: congratulations | 11:54 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I think my kdepim works now, after I cleaned up old resources from use | 11:54 |
| Riddell | I'm applying the Dolphin fixes to kdelibs in bzr and lucid | 12:16 |
| dpm | hi Riddell, we've got a template approval conflict in Launchpad: | 12:23 |
| dpm | * kdgantt in Ubuntu Maverick package "kdepim"; | 12:23 |
| dpm | * kdgantt in Ubuntu Maverick package "koffice". | 12:23 |
| dpm | do you happen to know to which package kdgantt belongs? | 12:24 |
| sheytan | Hi there :) | 12:26 |
| sheytan | Riddell and all you guys, take a look now: http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg | 12:26 |
| Riddell | dpm: hmm, that rings a bell, let me check | 12:28 |
| dpm | cool, thanks | 12:33 |
| Riddell | dpm: both kdepim and koffice use internal copies of that library, upstream only ships kdgantt.po in kde-l10n not in koffice-l10n so we should follow upstream and import it from kdepim and ignore it from koffice | 12:34 |
| dpm | Riddell, great, I'll move the template from koffice to kdepim. Thanks! | 12:36 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: seems like we are almost ready with 4.5 | 12:41 |
| * Quintasan is taking up plasma-addons | 12:42 | |
| Sput | is kubuntu gonna ship kdepim-4.5? | 12:42 |
| Quintasan | I think we decided to use the old pim Sput | 12:42 |
| Quintasan | KMail2 might eat ur mails | 12:43 |
| Quintasan | But we will package it and make sure that everyone interested will know where it is | 12:43 |
| Quintasan | :P | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:44 |
| Sput | that makes a lot of sense | 12:44 |
| Sput | though I must say, KMail-2 has progressed a lot lately | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | eclipse is quite the unlovely | 12:44 |
| Sput | it's approaching usable | 12:44 |
| Sput | not quite there yet... but already much more fun to use than Thunderbird :> | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | Sput: it is too risky at any case, epsecially since 10.10 will be released mid october instead of end | 12:45 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: isnt eclipse that crappy ide written n java? | 12:45 |
| Sput | apachelogger: certainly is... Gentoo is skipping the whole 4.5.0 release because of pim | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | aye | 12:45 |
| * apachelogger is on the outlook for a sensible ruby IDE | 12:45 | |
| apachelogger | no good thing available | 12:45 |
| * apachelogger falls back to vim again | 12:45 | |
| Quintasan | vim++ | 12:46 |
| Quintasan | still no kubotu? | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | Sput: that is scary though ^^ | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | I should go on lunch break I think :S | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | ah wellz | 12:46 |
| Sput | apachelogger: don't forget, we are not bound to a release cycle for the distro, so we can easily push out 4.5.1 when it's done | 12:46 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Sput | (plus we do offer experimental builds for 4.5.0) | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'll do the shares KCM today and then that stuff is also 1.0 beta | 12:47 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Go eat something | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Sput: yeah still I would not want kdepim 4.5 at 4.5.1 times either :P | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | every time I used kdepim from trunk it ate my data ^^ | 12:48 |
| Sput | it did? | 12:48 |
| Sput | never happened to me | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | even before that whole 4.5 business | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | Sput: well, it also did in the stable releases | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | I have a theory that kdepim likes to eat data on new setups | 12:49 |
| Sput | hmmm, in any case, the pimsters have managed to not make KMail hog the CPU anymore (via virtuoso) | 12:49 |
| Sput | which is a huge improvement, because only a few weeks ago, I had this mysqld process running constantly | 12:49 |
| Sput | taking up a sizable amount of CPU | 12:49 |
| Sput | all gone. | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: wip on what we need in dolphin -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/dolphin.txt | 12:50 |
| * apachelogger is somewhat confident that everything will be done in time for penciles down ... if upstream hurries and merges the kwallet patches -.- | 12:50 | |
| apachelogger | that said | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are you ok with uploading patched packages after alpha freeze? | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | -> break | 12:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: probably. kenvandine said he'd talk to them about the merges though | 12:51 |
| shadeslayer | 'lo | 12:57 |
| Riddell | evening shadeslayer | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | hey Riddell :) | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: the kdelibs neon import plugin is is fixed, thanks to jelmer, and we can use it when lp has a new release | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | which is sometime this weel | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | *week | 13:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yay | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: in light of the dolphin crashes, should we enable nepomuk indexing ? | 13:03 |
| Riddell | ug, no | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | ->flippin idiot... | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | wondering why my phone isnt charging.. and just noticed i didnt switch the charger one -.- | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: freeze design at http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | and start actually building it | 13:13 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer yep, i'm already on the way i want the new site to be :) | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | awesome :D | 13:19 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: kdeplasma-addons uploading | 13:20 |
| Quintasan | I think we are mostly done except kdebinding | 13:21 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, glad you like it. will show you guys all ive done so far today's evening ;) | 13:21 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: why don't we copy python-{qt,kde} stuff from maverick to lucid and retry the build? | 13:21 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I don't get an error in pykde when compiling kdebindings, I get it in smoke | 13:22 |
| Quintasan | humm | 13:22 |
| Riddell | I'll probably try recompiling the RC 3 kdebindings to see if that has the same problem | 13:22 |
| debfx | kdebindings fails because it's built with --Wl,--no-undefined | 13:23 |
| debfx | debian/rules contains "DEB_KDE_LINK_WITH_NO_UNDEFINED := no" but that's only supported by pkg-kde-helper 0.9.2 | 13:24 |
| debfx | pkg-kde-tools 0.9.2 | 13:24 |
| Quintasan | debfx sure knows his stuff | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | let me check that | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | debfx: should I remove that line? | 13:25 |
| * shadeslayer goes back to coding projects | 13:26 | |
| debfx | I hope we can just backport pkg-kde-tools without breaking anything else | 13:26 |
| Quintasan | oh | 13:26 |
| Quintasan | that would be better instead of doing the rules | 13:26 |
| Riddell | pkg-kde-tools should be backwards compatible | 13:27 |
| debfx | okay I'll upload it | 13:27 |
| Quintasan | debfx: oh, I wanted to do it but if you insist | 13:27 |
| Quintasan | ;) | 13:27 |
| debfx | Quintasan: go ahead :D | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | oh well | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | okay | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | :P | 13:34 |
| txwikinger | In KNR, is there a power management daemon? | 13:38 |
| Riddell | there's a battery applet in our plasma netbook setup | 13:38 |
| debfx | Riddell: could you please sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/synaptiks | 13:40 |
| debfx | it's the debian synaptiks package with the binary package renamed as it's called kde-config-touchpad | 13:40 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: the battery applet does not show anything anymore when I click on it | 13:41 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: no sliding out box? | 13:42 |
| txwikinger | It only has a black battery and Power Management | 13:42 |
| txwikinger | All the contents is gonew | 13:42 |
| txwikinger | i.e the buttons for sleep and hibernation | 13:42 |
| txwikinger | oh.. that is a hidden feature or what? | 13:43 |
| txwikinger | when you click on the battery it slides up and down ? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | I think you're confusing the tooltip with the actual applet | 13:44 |
| Riddell | debfx: onto it | 13:44 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: no.. not the tooltip | 13:45 |
| txwikinger | the tooltip only gives you information, right? | 13:45 |
| txwikinger | anyway.. I got again what I need :D | 13:46 |
| Riddell | right it shows a black battery and your charged level | 13:46 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: click on the black battery in the left top corner | 13:46 |
| Riddell | ooh, it goes all small | 13:47 |
| Riddell | that's random | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | yes.. and it stays small | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | so the next time you open it, you wonder where all the information and the button are gone | 13:47 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: you should file a bug upstream about that | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | Somehow I think his is superfluous | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: ok | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | +t | 13:48 |
| apparle | guys ubuntu is gettting a new font? ? | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | yes | 14:00 |
| Quintasan | and TBH I do not like it | 14:00 |
| apparle | kubuntu is not changing right?> | 14:01 |
| Quintasan | We have considered that but AFAIK decision has not been made yet | 14:01 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ^ | 14:01 |
| Tm_T | Quintasan: why you do not like it? | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: dude the font rocks | 14:07 |
| apparle | anyone know where can I get pics of that font | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | apparle: here : http://imagebin.ca/view/doSTPp9G.html | 14:08 |
| apparle | shadeslayer: its looking nice but I don't see much difference | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | much difference ? | 14:13 |
| fldc | so what font is it, and where can i get it? :) | 14:16 |
| apparle | shadeslayer: I meant its not a drastic change between kubuntu font and the new font | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | Tm_T, shadeslayer: Well, do I need any particular reason not to like it? | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | I just don't like the way it looks | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | That's all to it | 14:21 |
| Tm_T | Quintasan: no you don't need, but I like to know if there's any good argumentation against or for it | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | That's why I use Droid Sans and Liberation | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | apparle: dude.. it is a drastic change | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | it looks flippin awesome on KDE | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | Tm_T: I'm not an expert on fonts so I can't give you any explanation for me not liking it | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: i guess it depends on person to person | 14:22 |
| Riddell | I'm doing kde-l10n with new tars | 14:23 |
| Riddell | for maverick then for lucid | 14:23 |
| apparle | shadeslayer: only thing I liked is that it has less spacing in between diff characters | 14:23 |
| apparle | Riddell: so is kubuntu going to get that font? | 14:24 |
| * Quintasan pours away all soda drinks | 14:25 | |
| Quintasan | I need to stop drinking that crap | 14:25 |
| apparle | Quintasan: send that crap to me | 14:25 |
| Quintasan | apparle: You want some Mountain Dew? | 14:26 |
| apparle | Quintasan: sure | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | oh my god | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | double K | 14:26 |
| apparle | what happened | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | apparle: where are you from? | 14:26 |
| apparle | India | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | Too much hassle then, the postal fee would buy you three liters of it | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | :P | 14:27 |
| apparle | :D | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... | 14:28 |
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1159130 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/DependsTab.cpp Fix a string typo. OK'd by kde-i18n-doc CCMAIL:kde-i18n-doc@kde.org | 14:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: does http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ work for you in launchpad ? | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: well, it is not backwards compatile | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | dep-wait :) | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | Missing build dependencies: libdpkg-perl | 14:46 |
| Riddell | so quick hacky workaround | 14:47 |
| Riddell | in kdebindings debian/rules | 14:47 |
| Riddell | instead of "include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/variables.mk" | 14:47 |
| Riddell | just copy and paste the contents of that file | 14:48 |
| Riddell | and remove the offending line | 14:48 |
| Riddell | then test that | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: as in opens? | 14:49 |
| CIA-98 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1159137 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump version for 0.5.0 (1.0 RC) | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | i.e does the page open? | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | in rekonq no | 14:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: right | 14:52 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: dirty hack is dirty ;P | 14:53 |
| Quintasan | well | 14:53 |
| Quintasan | at least it should work | 14:54 |
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1159141 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/ChangelogTab.cpp Fix a bug where the busy overlay would not go away if a changelog could not be found. | 14:54 |
| CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1159142 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Bump version for 0.5.0 (1.0 RC) | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: dude | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | rekonq(6489) AdBlockManager::block: ****ADBLOCK: BLACK RULE Matched: *********** | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 14:58 |
| dpm | Riddell, there are a bunch of po/desktop_.pot files in the imports queue at https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_extension=pot&batch=90 What are those? Can I block them safely? | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | see if you disable adblock then it works | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | ohno(tm) | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | dpm: seems breakage in the build tools occured | 15:02 |
| ScottK | Color me stunned. | 15:02 |
| Riddell | mm, yes | 15:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: 4.5.0 is as built as it can get on all archs until NCommander fixes bindings on armel. | 15:03 |
| ScottK | No idea what other armel build failures might be higher in the stack, since we've never gotten to where we could try them. | 15:03 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: If I can get powerpc images for Alpha 3, can you test the live CD? | 15:04 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: sure | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: OK. I'll let you know if/when we have something. | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Are you anticipating Kubuntu respins at this point? | 15:07 |
| stalcup | JontheEchidna: libdebconf-kde is ack'd | 15:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: no, although I've been slow at testing due to netbook and/or usb drive playing up but I think kubuntu is fine | 15:08 |
| Riddell | ScottK: however 4.5.0 is being delayed until next Tuesday | 15:08 |
| === ubuntu_ is now known as EagleScreen | ||
| Riddell | so alpha 3 now has 4.5 release candidate in it | 15:08 |
| ScottK | Riddell: So we should anticipate more tarball updates.... | 15:08 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:08 |
| NCommander | ScottK: so some progress with kdebindings. I will probably have an upload this week | 15:08 |
| EagleScreen | hello | 15:08 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Excellent. | 15:09 |
| EagleScreen | do you plan replace kcm_touchpad by synaptiks ? | 15:09 |
| JontheEchidna | stalcup: thanks | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 15:10 |
| stalcup | no problemo :) | 15:10 |
| JontheEchidna | silly standards version, changing after I made the package ;) | 15:10 |
| stalcup | hehe | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: desktop_.pot comes from makefile scope issue ... any objections on turning KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT into a makefile scope variable rather than shell var? | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | particularly | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | if [ -z $${KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT} ]; then \ | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT=$(DEB_SOURCE_PACKAGE); \ | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | fi; \ | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | this code part | 15:11 |
| stalcup | JontheEchidna: I thought the same thing | 15:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's changed that breaks it? | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the order of the shell sequence which is now missing at least one ; \ | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | quite honestly I find this a bit of a dirty hack anyway because that pot var can be overridden via a makefile scope variable, so only setting it on shell scope using that if is sort of horrible IMHO | 15:13 |
| Riddell | go ahead and change it | 15:13 |
| Riddell | I do dislike shell, I especially dislike it mixed with makefile | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | +1 | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | fortunately dh7 and the KDE buildsystem support make it so much nicer | 15:15 |
| Riddell | yes | 15:15 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Could we have a Kubuntu powerpc respin in ~30 minutes (after the current publisher run completes) so maybe Tm_T can have something to test? | 15:16 |
| debfx | Quintasan: are you working on a fixed pkg-kde-tools backport? | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | ahhh | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | this seems to work very nicely :) | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | also KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT ?= $(DEB_SOURCE_PACKAGE) is shorter ^^ | 15:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: can do | 15:22 |
| ScottK | Great. | 15:22 |
| EagleScreen | Kubuntu uses kcm-touchpad for touchpad configuration tool, there is a newer and more complete tool called synaptiks, it is used in Debian and it is giving me better results then kcm-touchpad, i think it is hour to switch to synaptiks | 15:23 |
| Riddell | synaptiks is currently in our New queue, we should evaluate it and see if it should replace kcm-touchpad | 15:24 |
| EagleScreen | ok Riddell, where can I follow that evaluation? | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473118/ looks good? | 15:29 |
| Riddell | EagleScreen: here? | 15:29 |
| EagleScreen | here | 15:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: this presumably means packages which export KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT need to be changed? | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | oh :O | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | they do it via export? | 15:31 |
| Riddell | extragear packages do | 15:32 |
| Riddell | e.g. rekonq | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | indeed | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | a bit scary though | 15:32 |
| * apachelogger thought they used makefile vars, but oh well | 15:33 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'll try working around that ... though we need to reupload everything anyway | 15:33 |
| Riddell | and you've only done cdbs and the old dh7 include, not the other dh7 one? /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu-debhelper-langpack-generate.sh | 15:33 |
| Riddell | which isn't a makefile at all.. | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | well, for the dh7 ones we cannot use that approach | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | so I suppose export makes more sense anyway | 15:34 |
| Riddell | yofel: quick response with that printing bug there :) | 15:36 |
| yofel | hm? | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | debfx: nope | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | debfx: care doing that? | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: That quick and dirty hack made it even worse | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | and | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | well | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | it's smoke | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | ohm | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: arent makefile vars expanded to environment anyway? | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | ah beauty | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | indeed they are it seems | 15:39 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I don't know, are they? | 15:39 |
| Riddell | makefile is weird | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: $() always expands to environment IIRC | 15:39 |
| * apachelogger does some reading to make sure | 15:39 | |
| apachelogger | it certainly does work if I change my test rules to use an export instead of setting the var itself | 15:40 |
| * Quintasan has to go out | 15:42 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's the status of kdebindings? | 15:43 |
| Riddell | not that it matters now I suppose, new tars due | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Environment | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | additionally it seems export in make is not really what export in a shell is | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | while it also exports the variable it has the primary use of making variables of one recipe available to a sub-make called from within the recipe | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | which works because make turns every evnrionment var into a make var | 15:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: oh | 15:47 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: well, without "hack" it fails | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | at linking | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | with the hack it fails at smoke | 15:48 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: just tried both .mk files with exports, works flawless | 15:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so no need to change rekonq etc? | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | nope | 15:50 |
| Riddell | well, rekonq doesn't use the .mk files it uses --with kde | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | what doesnt change then anyway | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | --with kde uses the independent shell scripts | 15:51 |
| Riddell | right, and that doesn't have any problems currently? | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't ^^ | 15:52 |
| sheytan | http://a.imageshack.us/img707/3338/newsji.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img84/1636/whatiskubuntu.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img138/9479/kubuntu.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg <~ all so far. Need feedback :) | 15:52 |
| Guest20902 | rekonq should install flash plugin by apt:flashplugin-installer or so (from package manager) when it is prompted | 15:52 |
| Riddell | Guest20902: rekonq was patched to call the notifier recently | 15:53 |
| Guest20902 | oh very good | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmm | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: disadvantage of shell only script is that you do not get to see the code lines before they get excuted ^^ | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | so I cant tell from the build log if it worked completely and entirely | 15:56 |
| * apachelogger tests with his test package | 15:56 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I am thinking about creating unit testing for pkg-kde-tools | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | certainly a tricky thing to implement but better than having to reupload all of KDE because apachelogger changed things again ^^ | 15:57 |
| * Riddell quite confused by https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-August/011990.html | 15:59 | |
| yofel | maverick: /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches = 8192 | 16:01 |
| ofirk | I'm back! | 16:09 |
| Riddell | it's.... ofirk! | 16:09 |
| Riddell | been anywhere nice? | 16:09 |
| ofirk | kind of... | 16:10 |
| ofirk | I finished my exams term | 16:10 |
| ofirk | so I feel free | 16:10 |
| Riddell | did you pass? | 16:11 |
| ofirk | I got grades for 3 out of 5, and I passed those 3 | 16:11 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: should I be dropped into low res gfx? | 16:30 |
| Riddell | davmor2: no | 16:31 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'll prod the image and make sure it's not a bad burn | 16:32 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: This is on my all intel box | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | oh, I have broken shares ^^ | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | oh dear oh dear | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/I1BYF_o.html | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | what do you think? | 16:43 |
| * Riddell spots ScottK being optimistic about debian's release schedule :) | 16:43 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: No, that was more about risk culture in different distros. If it's too insane for us or Fedora, no way should Debian even think about. | 16:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Is the powerpc image still in progress or did it fail? | 16:52 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100804155510-6921jropes9c96js * src/libs/ (Share.cpp Share.h) introduce proper Share::Type enum (can be inbound or outbound) | 16:55 |
| * apachelogger loves how one can crash konqueror by pressing ctrl+w too often too quickly ^^ | 16:59 | |
| ScottK | agateau: You'll want to look at http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4898/ | 17:02 |
| * agateau clicks | 17:02 | |
| sheytan | hey guys. is there any planet Kubuntu site? | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/c22aFo.html | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: planet.ubuntu.com | 17:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Nice catch on the dependency graph. | 17:08 |
| sheytan | apachelogger thank you:) | 17:08 |
| agateau | ScottK: commented | 17:09 |
| ScottK | agateau: OK. Just wanted to make sure you were aware. | 17:09 |
| sheytan | apachelogger btw: http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2010/08/ikona-ubuntuone.html | 17:09 |
| sheytan | sill needs some love :D | 17:09 |
| agateau | ScottK: sure, thanks for this, I would probably have missed it otherwise. | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | and a SVG | 17:09 |
| sheytan | apachelogger yep, will be :D | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: the cloud looks odd though IMHO | 17:10 |
| sheytan | apachelogger that's why i said it needs more love :D | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | I mean, oxygen is photo realistic but not that much ^^ | 17:10 |
| maco | apachelogger: i think the translations are funny | 17:11 |
| sheytan | apachelogger i will repleace it with the ubuntu one cloud | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | maco: how are they funny? :P | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: I think that will also stick out, because their icon is not oxygen enough :S | 17:14 |
| sheytan | apachelogger hmm, maybe i create a whole new one, but i'm kinda busy right now :) | 17:15 |
| sheytan | i'll inform you about it, when i release new version :) | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | ok, cool :) | 17:16 |
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| maco | apachelogger: the buttons are done but the text isnt. | 17:22 |
| * apachelogger does not follow | 17:23 | |
| maco | apachelogger: your screenshot. english text, german (??) buttons | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | since the frame around is a containment coming from KDE that is to be expected ;) | 17:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ug forgot about the powerpc image | 17:35 |
| Riddell | let me try now | 17:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ooh pretty shares | 17:36 |
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| CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100804163831-uysw146nxu5q6ioz * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml properly type get_shares | 17:38 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100804163845-jlegt4cyk8j7hhmt * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonShares.cpp SyncDaemonShares.h) shares() renamed to shared() (since that is really what it yields) && introduce proper shares that lists the inbound shares | 17:39 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100804164022-ctswea9sj76u8mcs * src/kcmodule/ (ShareInfoWidget.cpp ShareInfoWidget.h CMakeLists.txt) ShareInfoWidget++ | 17:40 |
| CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100804164046-wcp8pu7u7e0h50a8 * src/kcmodule/ShareModule.cpp Fill share module with ShareInfowidgets for both inbound and outbound shares | 17:41 |
| Riddell | ScottK: powerpc livefs done, cds building | 18:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Cool. Thanks. | 18:35 |
| Riddell | done building ScottK | 18:35 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: ^^ | 18:35 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily-live/20100804/ | 18:36 |
| ScottK | A bit largish yet. | 18:36 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: Can you burn to a dvd or boot to usb? | 18:37 |
| * Riddell puts a file in kdebase-runtime to increate the inotify limit | 19:01 | |
| * Quintasan is back | 19:14 | |
| sheytan | hey guys | 20:09 |
| sheytan | we need a 3 community projects for kubuntu | 20:09 |
| sheytan | 1. ubuntu one, 2. muon | 20:09 |
| sheytan | and one more | 20:09 |
| sheytan | anyone? :) | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | Project Neon? | 20:10 |
| sheytan | Quintasan it's about what in few words? | 20:11 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: IIRC I cannot burn dvds and no idea about usb, would need to find one first | 20:18 |
| ScottK | OK. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: How would you feel about a kubuntu-meta upload to shrink powerpc? | 20:18 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: but I can try with USB, sure, that works similarly than with other arcs? | 20:19 |
| ScottK | No idea. Ask rgreening for details. I think you need a i386/amd64 machine to run usb-creator-kde, but I think you can feed it any arch's ISO. | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: If you're OK with it, I've adjusted the seeds, it just need -meta done. | 20:22 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: thanks (: | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | sheytan: nightly build of KDE and Amarok | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | and in future other stuff | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | maybe KOffice? | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | Who know | 20:49 |
| sheytan | Ok, thanks :) | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | sheytan: what are you plotting btw? :3 | 20:50 |
| sheytan | Quintasan for the new Kubuntu site :) | 20:51 |
| sheytan | Yep, new baby: http://a.imageshack.us/img529/9206/community.jpg | 20:51 |
| Quintasan | Well | 20:52 |
| Quintasan | Great | 20:52 |
| Quintasan | :D | 20:52 |
| Quintasan | More fame for me <insert evil laugher here> | 20:52 |
| sheytan | :) | 20:53 |
| debfx | kdebindings for lucid uploaded, hope it builds :) | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | debfx: thanks | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | debfx: what was the cause exacly? | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | fist python-kde then smoke | 20:53 |
| * Quintasan has to write few entries for his Planet blog | 20:54 | |
| Quintasan | I wonder how do people get so many to topics to write about | 20:54 |
| Quintasan | Whenever I think of something I consider it "Meh, who wants to read about that?" | 20:54 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I suspect they skip the step of having that thought. | 21:02 |
| maco | sheytan: shouldnt it say chinese in chinese? | 21:03 |
| sheytan | maco what do you mean? | 21:04 |
| maco | sheytan: it says chinese in english.. | 21:04 |
| sheytan | maco but what is it related to? | 21:05 |
| sheytan | i don't get it, sorry :D | 21:05 |
| maco | sheytan: your screenshot you linked 10 minutes ago | 21:05 |
| sheytan | maco where is there something about chinese? | 21:06 |
| maco | sheytan: "kubuntu in chinese" | 21:06 |
| sheytan | oooh | 21:06 |
| sheytan | sorry | 21:06 |
| sheytan | Yes, it should, but sorry, i don't know how to :D | 21:06 |
| sheytan | But before the release of the page, i'll take care of it :) | 21:07 |
| sheytan | Thank you :) | 21:07 |
| sheytan | ok, i'm out, bye :) | 21:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: pitti said -met upload was OK, so I'm going for it. | 21:10 |
| ScottK | -met/-meta | 21:10 |
| Riddell | new 4.5.0 tars are up | 21:57 |
| Riddell | question is do I just upload them en-masse to the ninjas PPA | 21:57 |
| Riddell | or do we individually compile and check them | 21:57 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: I agree, I haven't been online since we replied to that thread, the john_re experiment will probably have to come to an end :/ | 22:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think libkonq got a soname bump, so at least some checking is in order. | 22:10 |
| * claydoh wishes he had a netbook/smartphone/laptop with teh intarwebs in them | 22:10 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: New meta uploaded too. | 22:10 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: sigh, just seen the others... Basil could need some moderation as well, he is incredibly aggressive | 22:12 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: :( | 22:12 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: I wish there were a good way to increase membership in the ml as well as more individual posters than the same 5 or 6 all the time | 22:13 |
| debfx | Quintasan: kdebindings sets a variable which tells pkg-kde-tools to not add "-Wl,--no-undefined" to the linker flags | 22:13 |
| debfx | but only pkg-kde-tools >= 0.9.2 understands it | 22:14 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: well, Ric Moore is somebody I wanted to moderate for quite some time, besides "metoo" and offtopic oneliners he doesn't contribute | 22:14 |
| Mamarok | I will answer politely once more and everybody who continues to post on this will be moderated, period. Some only understand the hard way apparently | 22:16 |
| Tm_T | ...I still wait moderation notification when mailing to k-c-d | 22:16 |
| claydoh | tbh a number of 'regulars' don't even use Kubuntu | 22:16 |
| Mamarok | and that, yes | 22:16 |
| claydoh | we can't ban on that though :) | 22:16 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: you wait for what? | 22:17 |
| claydoh | moderate rather | 22:17 |
| Mamarok | I never banned somebody so far, only spammers | 22:17 |
| Mamarok | who don't complain :) | 22:17 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: notification that my mail is in moderation queue, as nowadays they apparently don't end up to be there | 22:17 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: and you are sure you are subscribed? | 22:17 |
| claydoh | yup, you sure are the list 'cop' lol | 22:17 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: talking about kde-core-devel | 22:17 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: ah, not me :) | 22:18 |
| Tm_T | (:) | 22:18 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: the problem is that we have to be cops, sinc epeople can't respect the ML conditions | 22:18 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: you are aleays weilding your nightstick ready to pounce on those nasty top-posters and all </sarcasm> | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | debfx: oh, thanks | 22:19 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: I top-posted on purpose, I didn't want to go down all the long silly thread | 22:19 |
| claydoh | hehe I don't care about top posting in a lot of cases | 22:19 |
| claydoh | I mostly care about on-topic topics, let the list members self-regulate that part | 22:20 |
| claydoh | let the members self-regulate the rest of the rules | 22:21 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: do you have powers to accept ppl at kde-packagers? | 22:30 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: no | 22:31 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 22:31 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's your status? | 22:31 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: mail sent | 22:33 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: beats me, I sent a request at least few days ago | 22:36 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: oh then you just have to be patient | 22:38 |
| Riddell | ScottK: libkonq didn't get an soname bump and the binary incompatible change was in january | 22:39 |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. | 22:39 |
| Riddell | so we've already had a KDE release with the change, no point doing it now | 22:39 |
| ScottK | Right. | 22:39 |
| Riddell | however I did see debian people talkign about patching it so we should watch out for that | 22:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Also looks like Debian will likely switch to 4.5 for Squeeze, so doubly so. | 22:39 |
| Riddell | I'm going to go for the en-masse upload to kubuntu ninjas | 23:20 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 23:34 |
| Riddell | mm? | 23:35 |
| Quintasan | I'm doing some nasty stuff | 23:38 |
| Quintasan | Well, not worse that I have received | 23:38 |
| ScottK | Did the RSS feed for Kubuntu News change on the new web site? | 23:51 |
| Riddell | I suspect it's not set up | 23:54 |
| Riddell | need to poke ofir or ryanakca about that | 23:55 |
| ScottK | OK. Done. Thanks. | 23:59 |
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