[00:19] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803231822-qxa4kggx32tde8n7 * (12 files in 3 dirs) No more linking against kwallet && gnomekeyring support && as a result ::clear() is broken && less kde in the upper levels (still we need quite some KDE foo for the build) [00:21] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc/files/head:/src/plugins/ [00:21] there [00:21] my Qt implementation is now officially superior === gnomelogger is now known as supremeDalek [00:31] Quintasan: hmm kdebindings goes boom here too [00:31] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803233140-wdxzzrhwz5nvbcy0 * src/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h) fix clear again [00:36] hm, oxygen-molecule looks cool, now if it would have a dark variant ~.~ [00:47] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803234742-aw3tkh4rcrvvjm9r * src/ (AccessToken.cpp HttpDaemon.cpp main.cpp) warning-- [00:48] hrhr http://imagebin.ca/view/753bn3.html === supremeDalek is now known as apachelogger [00:50] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803235033-1p56mkon2z4b75ek * src/plugins/SecretsInterface.h add copyright notice [00:57] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100803235654-pdb1ce3mn3zkm9jo * debian/ (4 files) Add backend packaging and build-dep on libgnome-keyring-dev [01:00] 4.5 release moved back to Thursday (probably) === apachelogger is now known as supremeapachelog [01:47] Lovely. [01:47] Well we've got it, even if no one else does ... [02:01] a selling point maybe :D [02:35] hi Riddell [02:36] Riddell, do you know if agateau returned from the holidays? :-) === rbelem is now known as rbelem-afk [03:49] [muon] jmthomas * 1158907 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) (log message trimmed) [03:49] Subclass MuonMainWindow's errorOccurred function so that we can properly return [03:49] from errors (Such as the UserCancelError, or AuthError). This occurred when I [03:50] [muon] jmthomas * 1158908 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Very unnecessary QString construction-- [03:57] [muon] jmthomas * 1158909 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Clean up the software-properties-kde launching code [04:45] how is knr in mav? === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [09:16] supremeapachelog: son, I have a small build issues [09:30] Riddell, claydoh: giovanni_re is at it again. one more post like this and he is moderated again, as will be all those who continue [10:39] Mamarok: where's this? [10:42] Mamarok: hmm, that thread should be stopped at least, as being woefully rambling and off topic [10:51] why they think attacking back at list-operator would help their cause? [10:51] ...other than playing a victim === supremeapachelog is now known as apachelogger [10:55] Tm_T: how did that happen? [10:57] apachelogger: something like... this: *** No rule to make target usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/com.ubuntu.sso.xml', needed by rc/api/ComUbuntuSsoInterface.cpp'. Stop. [10:58] Tm_T: https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc [10:58] upstream thought it a good idea split off the authentication [10:58] sounds... fun [10:58] hence ubuntu-sso is now a new buildep [10:58] shame cmake didn't yell it at me [10:58] also my implementation is superior in but every aspect anyway :P [10:59] Tm_T: I did not come around to implement proper checking for it [11:00] apachelogger: makes sense (: [11:01] apachelogger: bzr/ubuntu-sso-client/src/AccessToken.cpp:45: error: ‘class QOAuth::Interface’ has no member named ‘networkAccessManager’ [11:01] libqoauth-dev [11:01] OTOH that should fail [11:02] "libqoauth-dev is already the newest version." so yes [11:02] that is odd [11:02] QNetworkAccessManager* networkAccessManager() const; [11:02] public interface [11:03] Tm_T: any other useful information? [11:03] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473031/ [11:04] * apachelogger is wondering why his qt creator has so large fonts [11:05] there's plenty of more if I go and do make -iks [11:06] ...have to install some gnome-keyring -dev package I suppose [11:06] oh [11:06] Tm_T: yeah [11:06] not conditional as of now [11:06] Tm_T: also I did not push my latest changes it seems [11:06] (:) [11:07] or maybe I did :O [11:07] try again [11:07] Tm_T: are you sure you do not have an old version of qoauth floating around? [11:09] apachelogger: apparently not, as locate couldn't find any other ones [11:10] hm [11:11] Tm_T: in CMakeCache.txt in your build dir what does PC_QOAuth_VERSION:INTERNAL contain? [11:12] apachelogger: 1.0.0 [11:12] libqoauth-dev_1.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_i386.deb is the package I have installed [11:12] ohhhhhhhhhhh [11:12] let me quess, I should be using Maverick? [11:12] requires 1.0.1 now I suppose [11:12] Tm_T: yeah, I am targetting maverick now as to reach release quality [11:13] Tm_T: but as long as you get the qoauth source from mav and have KDE 4.5 installed your are fine too [11:13] although [11:13] ye [11:13] actually not [11:13] Tm_T: that upstream change to ubuntu-sso broke backwards compability of authorization completely :( [11:13] thoh [11:14] and version number rised with ..1 ? [11:14] raised [11:16] no [11:16] .+1. I think [11:16] !info ubuntuone-client [11:16] ubuntuone-client (source: ubuntuone-client): Ubuntu One client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 23 kB, installed size 476 kB [11:16] !info ubuntuone-client maverick [11:16] ubuntuone-client (source: ubuntuone-client): Ubuntu One client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 23 kB, installed size 148 kB [11:17] Tm_T: 1.2 to 1.3 [11:17] still not sufficient IMHO [11:17] but it is pyth0rn, one must be happy to get any visible bump at all [11:18] opinions on http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/envy/pdf/envy14_datasheet.pdf ? [11:20] apachelogger: right, thanks (: [11:21] Tm_T: you could of couse backport the ubuntuone-client too ;) [11:23] JontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/plugins/GnomeKeyringSecretsInterface.cpp <-- I am now becoming gnome developer too muahhaha ^^ [11:32] apachelogger: let me get my kmail working first (; [11:32] ^^ [11:32] ...been without it since 4.5 development cycle started [11:33] * apachelogger gets depressed over the crap notebooks on the market right now -.- [11:33] Tm_T: uhhh, did you upgrade to kdepim 4.5? :P [11:34] apachelogger: I've been with trunk since year... can't remember [11:34] Tm_T: poor mom ^^ [11:34] aha! [11:34] perfect [11:34] hp envy 14 seems to come with broken bios [11:34] for free [11:35] * apachelogger kicks it off the list of potential notebooks [11:40] Riddell: I consider the authentication to be 1.0 beta [11:40] only proxy support is really missing and I doubt the python client does that either [11:54] apachelogger: congratulations [11:54] apachelogger: I think my kdepim works now, after I cleaned up old resources from use [12:16] I'm applying the Dolphin fixes to kdelibs in bzr and lucid [12:23] hi Riddell, we've got a template approval conflict in Launchpad: [12:23] * kdgantt in Ubuntu Maverick package "kdepim"; [12:23] * kdgantt in Ubuntu Maverick package "koffice". [12:24] do you happen to know to which package kdgantt belongs? [12:26] Hi there :) [12:26] Riddell and all you guys, take a look now: http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg [12:28] dpm: hmm, that rings a bell, let me check [12:33] cool, thanks [12:34] dpm: both kdepim and koffice use internal copies of that library, upstream only ships kdgantt.po in kde-l10n not in koffice-l10n so we should follow upstream and import it from kdepim and ignore it from koffice [12:36] Riddell, great, I'll move the template from koffice to kdepim. Thanks! [12:41] Riddell: seems like we are almost ready with 4.5 [12:42] * Quintasan is taking up plasma-addons [12:42] is kubuntu gonna ship kdepim-4.5? [12:42] I think we decided to use the old pim Sput [12:43] KMail2 might eat ur mails [12:43] But we will package it and make sure that everyone interested will know where it is [12:43] :P [12:44] hm [12:44] that makes a lot of sense [12:44] though I must say, KMail-2 has progressed a lot lately [12:44] eclipse is quite the unlovely [12:44] it's approaching usable [12:44] not quite there yet... but already much more fun to use than Thunderbird :> [12:45] Sput: it is too risky at any case, epsecially since 10.10 will be released mid october instead of end [12:45] apachelogger: isnt eclipse that crappy ide written n java? [12:45] apachelogger: certainly is... Gentoo is skipping the whole 4.5.0 release because of pim [12:45] aye [12:45] * apachelogger is on the outlook for a sensible ruby IDE [12:45] no good thing available [12:45] * apachelogger falls back to vim again [12:46] vim++ [12:46] still no kubotu? [12:46] Sput: that is scary though ^^ [12:46] I should go on lunch break I think :S [12:46] ah wellz [12:46] apachelogger: don't forget, we are not bound to a release cycle for the distro, so we can easily push out 4.5.1 when it's done === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:47] (plus we do offer experimental builds for 4.5.0) [12:47] Riddell: I'll do the shares KCM today and then that stuff is also 1.0 beta [12:47] apachelogger: Go eat something [12:48] Sput: yeah still I would not want kdepim 4.5 at 4.5.1 times either :P [12:48] every time I used kdepim from trunk it ate my data ^^ [12:48] it did? [12:48] never happened to me [12:48] even before that whole 4.5 business [12:49] Sput: well, it also did in the stable releases [12:49] I have a theory that kdepim likes to eat data on new setups [12:49] hmmm, in any case, the pimsters have managed to not make KMail hog the CPU anymore (via virtuoso) [12:49] which is a huge improvement, because only a few weeks ago, I had this mysqld process running constantly [12:49] taking up a sizable amount of CPU [12:49] all gone. [12:50] Riddell: wip on what we need in dolphin -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/dolphin.txt [12:50] * apachelogger is somewhat confident that everything will be done in time for penciles down ... if upstream hurries and merges the kwallet patches -.- [12:50] that said [12:50] Riddell: are you ok with uploading patched packages after alpha freeze? [12:51] anyhow [12:51] -> break [12:51] apachelogger: probably. kenvandine said he'd talk to them about the merges though [12:57] 'lo [12:59] evening shadeslayer [12:59] hey Riddell :) [13:00] Riddell: the kdelibs neon import plugin is is fixed, thanks to jelmer, and we can use it when lp has a new release [13:00] which is sometime this weel [13:00] *week [13:03] shadeslayer: yay [13:03] Riddell: in light of the dolphin crashes, should we enable nepomuk indexing ? [13:03] ug, no [13:03] ok [13:07] ->flippin idiot... [13:08] wondering why my phone isnt charging.. and just noticed i didnt switch the charger one -.- [13:13] sheytan: freeze design at http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg [13:13] and start actually building it [13:19] shadeslayer yep, i'm already on the way i want the new site to be :) [13:19] awesome :D [13:20] Riddell: kdeplasma-addons uploading [13:21] I think we are mostly done except kdebinding [13:21] shadeslayer, glad you like it. will show you guys all ive done so far today's evening ;) [13:21] Riddell: why don't we copy python-{qt,kde} stuff from maverick to lucid and retry the build? [13:22] Quintasan: I don't get an error in pykde when compiling kdebindings, I get it in smoke [13:22] humm [13:22] I'll probably try recompiling the RC 3 kdebindings to see if that has the same problem [13:23] kdebindings fails because it's built with --Wl,--no-undefined [13:24] debian/rules contains "DEB_KDE_LINK_WITH_NO_UNDEFINED := no" but that's only supported by pkg-kde-helper 0.9.2 [13:24] pkg-kde-tools 0.9.2 [13:25] debfx sure knows his stuff [13:25] let me check that [13:25] hehe [13:25] debfx: should I remove that line? [13:26] * shadeslayer goes back to coding projects [13:26] I hope we can just backport pkg-kde-tools without breaking anything else [13:26] oh [13:26] that would be better instead of doing the rules [13:27] pkg-kde-tools should be backwards compatible [13:27] okay I'll upload it [13:27] debfx: oh, I wanted to do it but if you insist [13:27] ;) [13:28] Quintasan: go ahead :D [13:34] oh well [13:34] okay [13:34] :P [13:38] In KNR, is there a power management daemon? [13:38] there's a battery applet in our plasma netbook setup [13:40] Riddell: could you please sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/synaptiks [13:40] it's the debian synaptiks package with the binary package renamed as it's called kde-config-touchpad [13:41] Riddell: the battery applet does not show anything anymore when I click on it [13:42] txwikinger: no sliding out box? [13:42] It only has a black battery and Power Management [13:42] All the contents is gonew [13:42] i.e the buttons for sleep and hibernation [13:43] oh.. that is a hidden feature or what? [13:43] when you click on the battery it slides up and down ? [13:44] I think you're confusing the tooltip with the actual applet [13:44] debfx: onto it [13:45] Riddell: no.. not the tooltip [13:45] the tooltip only gives you information, right? [13:46] anyway.. I got again what I need :D [13:46] right it shows a black battery and your charged level [13:46] Riddell: click on the black battery in the left top corner [13:47] ooh, it goes all small [13:47] that's random [13:47] yes.. and it stays small [13:47] so the next time you open it, you wonder where all the information and the button are gone [13:47] txwikinger: you should file a bug upstream about that [13:47] Somehow I think his is superfluous [13:47] Riddell: ok [13:48] +t [13:59] guys ubuntu is gettting a new font? ? [14:00] yes [14:00] and TBH I do not like it [14:01] kubuntu is not changing right?> [14:01] We have considered that but AFAIK decision has not been made yet [14:01] Riddell: ^ [14:05] Quintasan: why you do not like it? [14:07] Quintasan: dude the font rocks [14:07] anyone know where can I get pics of that font [14:08] apparle: here : http://imagebin.ca/view/doSTPp9G.html [14:13] shadeslayer: its looking nice but I don't see much difference [14:13] much difference ? [14:16] so what font is it, and where can i get it? :) [14:18] shadeslayer: I meant its not a drastic change between kubuntu font and the new font [14:21] Tm_T, shadeslayer: Well, do I need any particular reason not to like it? [14:21] I just don't like the way it looks [14:21] That's all to it [14:22] Quintasan: no you don't need, but I like to know if there's any good argumentation against or for it [14:22] That's why I use Droid Sans and Liberation [14:22] apparle: dude.. it is a drastic change [14:22] it looks flippin awesome on KDE [14:22] Tm_T: I'm not an expert on fonts so I can't give you any explanation for me not liking it [14:22] Tm_T: i guess it depends on person to person [14:23] I'm doing kde-l10n with new tars [14:23] for maverick then for lucid [14:23] shadeslayer: only thing I liked is that it has less spacing in between diff characters [14:24] Riddell: so is kubuntu going to get that font? [14:25] * Quintasan pours away all soda drinks [14:25] I need to stop drinking that crap [14:25] Quintasan: send that crap to me [14:26] apparle: You want some Mountain Dew? [14:26] Quintasan: sure [14:26] oh my god [14:26] double K [14:26] what happened [14:26] apparle: where are you from? [14:26] India [14:27] Too much hassle then, the postal fee would buy you three liters of it [14:27] :P [14:27] :D [14:28] hehe... [14:29] [muon] jmthomas * 1159130 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/DependsTab.cpp Fix a string typo. OK'd by kde-i18n-doc CCMAIL:kde-i18n-doc@kde.org [14:44] shadeslayer: does http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ work for you in launchpad ? [14:46] Riddell: well, it is not backwards compatile [14:46] dep-wait :) [14:46] Missing build dependencies: libdpkg-perl [14:47] so quick hacky workaround [14:47] in kdebindings debian/rules [14:47] instead of "include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/variables.mk" [14:48] just copy and paste the contents of that file [14:48] and remove the offending line [14:48] then test that [14:49] Riddell: as in opens? [14:49] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1159137 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump version for 0.5.0 (1.0 RC) [14:49] i.e does the page open? [14:52] in rekonq no [14:52] shadeslayer: right [14:53] Riddell: dirty hack is dirty ;P [14:53] well [14:54] at least it should work [14:54] [muon] jmthomas * 1159141 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/ChangelogTab.cpp Fix a bug where the busy overlay would not go away if a changelog could not be found. [14:55] [muon] jmthomas * 1159142 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Bump version for 0.5.0 (1.0 RC) [14:58] Riddell: dude [14:58] rekonq(6489) AdBlockManager::block: ****ADBLOCK: BLACK RULE Matched: *********** [14:58] :O [14:59] Riddell, there are a bunch of po/desktop_.pot files in the imports queue at https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_extension=pot&batch=90 What are those? Can I block them safely? [14:59] see if you disable adblock then it works [15:02] ohno(tm) [15:02] dpm: seems breakage in the build tools occured [15:02] Color me stunned. [15:02] mm, yes [15:03] Riddell: 4.5.0 is as built as it can get on all archs until NCommander fixes bindings on armel. [15:03] No idea what other armel build failures might be higher in the stack, since we've never gotten to where we could try them. [15:04] Tm_T: If I can get powerpc images for Alpha 3, can you test the live CD? [15:05] ScottK: sure [15:05] Tm_T: OK. I'll let you know if/when we have something. [15:07] Riddell: Are you anticipating Kubuntu respins at this point? [15:07] JontheEchidna: libdebconf-kde is ack'd [15:08] ScottK: no, although I've been slow at testing due to netbook and/or usb drive playing up but I think kubuntu is fine [15:08] ScottK: however 4.5.0 is being delayed until next Tuesday === ubuntu_ is now known as EagleScreen [15:08] so alpha 3 now has 4.5 release candidate in it [15:08] Riddell: So we should anticipate more tarball updates.... [15:08] OK. [15:08] ScottK: so some progress with kdebindings. I will probably have an upload this week [15:08] hello [15:09] NCommander: Excellent. [15:09] do you plan replace kcm_touchpad by synaptiks ? [15:10] stalcup: thanks [15:10] brrr [15:10] no problemo :) [15:10] silly standards version, changing after I made the package ;) [15:11] hehe [15:11] Riddell: desktop_.pot comes from makefile scope issue ... any objections on turning KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT into a makefile scope variable rather than shell var? [15:11] particularly [15:11] if [ -z $${KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT} ]; then \ [15:11] KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT=$(DEB_SOURCE_PACKAGE); \ [15:11] fi; \ [15:11] this code part [15:11] JontheEchidna: I thought the same thing [15:12] apachelogger: what's changed that breaks it? [15:12] Riddell: the order of the shell sequence which is now missing at least one ; \ [15:13] quite honestly I find this a bit of a dirty hack anyway because that pot var can be overridden via a makefile scope variable, so only setting it on shell scope using that if is sort of horrible IMHO [15:13] go ahead and change it [15:14] I do dislike shell, I especially dislike it mixed with makefile [15:15] +1 [15:15] fortunately dh7 and the KDE buildsystem support make it so much nicer [15:15] yes [15:16] Riddell: Could we have a Kubuntu powerpc respin in ~30 minutes (after the current publisher run completes) so maybe Tm_T can have something to test? [15:17] Quintasan: are you working on a fixed pkg-kde-tools backport? [15:17] ahhh [15:17] this seems to work very nicely :) [15:17] also KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT ?= $(DEB_SOURCE_PACKAGE) is shorter ^^ [15:22] ScottK: can do [15:22] Great. [15:23] Kubuntu uses kcm-touchpad for touchpad configuration tool, there is a newer and more complete tool called synaptiks, it is used in Debian and it is giving me better results then kcm-touchpad, i think it is hour to switch to synaptiks [15:24] synaptiks is currently in our New queue, we should evaluate it and see if it should replace kcm-touchpad [15:24] ok Riddell, where can I follow that evaluation? [15:29] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473118/ looks good? [15:29] EagleScreen: here? [15:29] here [15:30] apachelogger: this presumably means packages which export KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT need to be changed? [15:31] oh :O [15:31] they do it via export? [15:32] extragear packages do [15:32] e.g. rekonq [15:32] indeed [15:32] a bit scary though [15:33] * apachelogger thought they used makefile vars, but oh well [15:33] Riddell: I'll try working around that ... though we need to reupload everything anyway [15:33] and you've only done cdbs and the old dh7 include, not the other dh7 one? /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu-debhelper-langpack-generate.sh [15:34] which isn't a makefile at all.. [15:34] well, for the dh7 ones we cannot use that approach [15:34] so I suppose export makes more sense anyway [15:36] yofel: quick response with that printing bug there :) [15:37] hm? [15:37] debfx: nope [15:37] debfx: care doing that? [15:38] Riddell: That quick and dirty hack made it even worse [15:38] and [15:38] well [15:38] it's smoke [15:38] ohm [15:38] Riddell: arent makefile vars expanded to environment anyway? [15:39] ah beauty [15:39] indeed they are it seems [15:39] apachelogger: I don't know, are they? [15:39] makefile is weird [15:39] Riddell: $() always expands to environment IIRC [15:39] * apachelogger does some reading to make sure [15:40] it certainly does work if I change my test rules to use an export instead of setting the var itself [15:42] * Quintasan has to go out [15:43] Quintasan: what's the status of kdebindings? [15:43] not that it matters now I suppose, new tars due [15:45] Riddell: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Environment [15:45] additionally it seems export in make is not really what export in a shell is [15:46] while it also exports the variable it has the primary use of making variables of one recipe available to a sub-make called from within the recipe [15:46] which works because make turns every evnrionment var into a make var [15:47] Riddell: oh [15:48] Riddell: well, without "hack" it fails [15:48] at linking [15:48] with the hack it fails at smoke === EagleScreen is now known as Guest20902 [15:48] Riddell: just tried both .mk files with exports, works flawless [15:50] apachelogger: so no need to change rekonq etc? [15:50] nope [15:51] well, rekonq doesn't use the .mk files it uses --with kde [15:51] what doesnt change then anyway [15:51] --with kde uses the independent shell scripts [15:51] right, and that doesn't have any problems currently? [15:52] shouldn't ^^ [15:52] http://a.imageshack.us/img707/3338/newsji.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img84/1636/whatiskubuntu.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img138/9479/kubuntu.jpg | http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9735/joinus.jpg <~ all so far. Need feedback :) [15:52] rekonq should install flash plugin by apt:flashplugin-installer or so (from package manager) when it is prompted [15:53] Guest20902: rekonq was patched to call the notifier recently [15:53] oh very good [15:54] hmmmmm [15:56] Riddell: disadvantage of shell only script is that you do not get to see the code lines before they get excuted ^^ [15:56] so I cant tell from the build log if it worked completely and entirely [15:56] * apachelogger tests with his test package [15:56]