=== spyrosebastos is now known as spiros === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos === gnomelogger is now known as supremeDalek === supremeDalek is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger is now known as supremeapachelog [01:11] not directly kubuntu, but not getting much response in ubuntu, any know how to solve a booting problem here? [01:12] hi [01:12] How can I make kubuntu rerun hardware detection and rebuild xorg.con after connecting a new monitor? [01:13] you shouldnt need an xorg.conf [01:13] systemsettings -> display should allow you to configure multiple monitors [01:13] senfman: depends on the grapihcs card... also kubuntu dosnt have an xorg.conf by default anymore [01:13] James147: where is it configured now? [01:14] I replaced my old monitor by the new one, which supports a higher resolution. [01:14] senfman: same place, just isent needed (xorg can now auto detect settings) [01:14] James147: how can I make autodetect them? [01:15] senfman: remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or rename it) but telling us your graphics card will lead to better help as they can be configured differently [01:15] I have an nvidia card [01:16] GeForce 7300 LE [01:16] senfman: then its best to install teh proprity drivers (if you havent already) and you can run "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure xorg.conf [01:17] James147: Ah ok. I considered this already. I am sure this will work... [01:17] James147: I just wondered wether there is a way to have the same hardware recognition as at initial installation. [01:19] senfman: removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf should take you back to the default settigns (after restarting x). You can also regenerator the xorg.conf by running "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which is whats run after you install the proprity drivers I beleasve [01:21] James147: I tried nvidia-xconfig already. Funny thing is, that this still assumes my system to have the old monitor. [01:21] senfman: I take it you have rebooted since you replaced the monitor? [01:22] James147: yes. [01:22] senfman: then your best best would be to use nvidia-settings [01:22] James147: like 5 times. What I did not do yet was trying to remove xorg.conf [01:24] James147: this is probably the best way. [01:24] i need some help [01:24] !help | guest [01:24] guest: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:25] i got problem with my ubuntu 10.04 log screen settings i cant unlock [01:25] what shoul i do? [01:25] guest: ubuntu or kubuntu? [01:25] ubuntu [01:26] guest: you should ask in #ubuntu then [01:26] okey thanks anyway [01:28] oh sure throw him our way [01:28] gnomefreak: ^^ dont know anything about the gnome screen saver... how are we ment to help :S [01:29] James147: good point === justin__ is now known as masterjustice === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros === Zetetic is now known as Elench === aperson is now known as APERSON === root is now known as Guest83680 === matt_ is now known as TxMatt [02:44] can someone explain just what kwallet is, and why a program like okular would want to use it? [02:47] cato37: it stores passwords and stuff in an encrypted form [02:48] Elench: i am opening a pdf that i just downloaded... why would it have okular want to open kwallet? should i deny or say yes? === Crissi_ is now known as CrissiD [02:49] I can't think of a good reason for that [02:49] me neither. lol. [02:49] I'd deny and see what doesn't work [02:53] ah, the pdf is encrypted.... i have to use the key that they sent to my email. [02:53] i had been using ms for so long that i was paranoid... [02:53] Ah, then it was wanting to check if you had stored it in your kwallet before === Elench is now known as Deus-Imperator === Deus-Imperator is now known as Elench === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos [04:22] Hi there, anyone here want to assist a failure n00b? [04:22] whats wrong teb_? [04:22] Well, I'm kinda new with Kubuntu [04:23] And I added alot of widget on my desktop, and suddenly (i dunno if I clicked someting or) they are gone... [04:23] go on [04:23] guessing I hidding it [04:23] but dunno how to get them back [04:23] if you understand what I mean [04:23] yes, but I'm unsure what would cause that [04:23] hehe [04:24] I'm stumped :) [04:24] maybe try adding them again? [04:24] I can try [04:25] lol, think I found it out :D [04:25] I just [removed activity desktop or something] [04:26] oh right! [04:26] the top right thing [04:26] hehe [04:26] Thanks for listning [04:26] you can have 'virtual' desktops, yep [04:26] you just jumped to a new one [04:27] But how do I know how many "destop" i have, and how can I switch between them? [04:27] top right [04:27] zoom out [04:27] oh [04:27] to zoom back in on one its the magnifying glass [04:27] Thank, and thanks for taking your time [04:28] glad I could help a little! [04:28] xD [04:28] Aint easy with something that new :D [04:29] you'll be comfortable with it in no time [04:29] I had a lot of issues when I shut down my panel once :P [04:29] :D [04:30] Well, I love Linux, just need to learn it === xenthral is now known as xenthral_ === xenthral_ is now known as xenthral [05:38] Still trying to keep my desktop icons in one place after every reboot... :( [KDE - SUCKS!!!] [05:43] mcurran: yeah, that's the way to stick around here. watch what you say please === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros === stephen is now known as Guest84240 === Guest84240 is now known as Brutus44 [06:52] hey guys is anyone else experiencing random crashes with the nvidia-current driver to where u have to do a hard reboot and the drive fails to load and you end up in low graphics mode? restarting x gets me to the gdm since i also have gnome installed. rebooting system gets me back to using kdm [06:55] In Maverick I get low graphics mode every boot & when I select restart x it starts fine (i'm using the current prop nvidia driver) [06:55] !maverick | Carnage\ [06:55] Carnage\: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [06:56] caryb: see above join ubuntu+1 for 10.10 support [06:57] not asking for support was drawing out from eagles.... what his setup is & whether the nvidia driver might be causing this === raffaele is now known as Guest43350 [08:56] hello [08:56] is there a way to easily install all dbg packages fot currently installed packages? [08:56] for* [08:56] do you mean something like install *-dev? [08:57] i don't know what that command does so i wouldn't know [08:57] I only want to have the debug packages installed but without having to mannualyy hunt each and evry one down and install [08:59] michiduta, I'm searching.. but please remember that it will be a huge amount of software [08:59] so could i do something like apt-get install "installed"-dbg? With installed being something for the system to recognize all currently installed packages? [08:59] Ok [09:04] sudo apt-cache search *-dbg [09:04] E: Regex compilation error [09:04] Is this normal? [09:05] michiduta, I'm trying this and I get this error, too.. [09:05] I don't know what's wrong [09:05] try wrapping in single quotes ' [09:05] Running kubuntu 10.04 x64 if it matters [09:05] to prevent shell expansion.. No, it doesn't matter :D [09:06] sudo apt-cache search '*-dbg'? Same error [09:06] same with double quotes " [09:07] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg537012.html [09:07] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg536982.html [09:08] so try apt-cache search -- -dev [09:08] But i don't want dev [09:08] i want dbg [09:09] and the command on the link you gave me works [09:09] then substitute dbg!! [09:09] It shows me a lot of dbg packages [09:09] thanks [09:10] Actually it shows so many that my terminal can't show the entire list :O [09:13] I'm guessing this shows all available dbg packages not just the ones for the packages i currently have installed, right? [09:14] michiduta, yep, you can try adding the --names-only switch, and i'm looking for other switches [09:14] ok thanks [09:17] michiduta, i don't think there's an easy way to get what you want, maybe you need to set up a little shell script [09:18] because you must have a list of all installed packages, then append the -dbg suffix, then see if -dbg exist [09:18] michiduta and if it exists, install it [09:18] .... i'm not good with shell scripts.... don't even know how to make one ..... so .... thanks for your help... [09:18] bye bye :D [09:36] . [09:37] salut, j'essai de configurer une imprimante epson epl-6200l en réseau mais je ne la trouve pas avec l'outil de configuration === lyhana8_ is now known as lyhana8 [09:38] !language [09:38] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [09:38] :) [09:39] sorry I though I was on ubuntu-fr [09:40] I'm trying to set up a network epson printer (epl-6200L) but it's not detected by the GUI [09:40] no problem just don't be sad when nobody answers ;) [09:40] looking from windows told me the ip is 192.168.0.1 (which is my router o_O) on port 9100 and with RAW protocol [09:41] is it a network printer ? [09:41] or connected via usb ? [09:42] smooph: it's connected to the router so I guess it's a network one [09:42] me [09:42] ? [09:42] ok it's a USB cabnle that connect it to the routeur [09:43] but is it connected to the router via ethernet cable or usb? [09:43] ok [09:44] than your router must have some function like a print server if it doesn't this is the reason why its not working [09:44] what kind of router do you have [09:44] smooph: Dlink, I manage to print from windows [09:45] it's a Dlink DI-524UP smooph [09:47] did you install the driver for the printer? [09:47] does the printer work when connected to the pc directly? [09:48] smooph: no Idea I'm doing an internship and I'm not really comfortable unplugging everything in front of my boss :P [09:49] ok i understand [09:49] i think your problem might be that the correct driver is missing [09:49] http://tinyurl.com/2u8nvok [09:49] might help [09:51] lyhana8: or even better http://tinyurl.com/2v2empa [09:51] I hope this helps [10:01] what's the fcking deal with hibernation in kubuntu? [10:03] can't it ever be fixed by the devs? [10:10] smooph: ok I compile .tgz [10:27] lyhana8: is it working ? [10:38] smooph: no idea how to use this [10:38] ok I compiled it but then what ? [10:45] Hello [10:54] hello === supremeapachelog is now known as apachelogger [10:55] Is there som known problem with ext4 where processes get stuck in D STATE if say you make a file transfire of 500Gb of data over Gbit lan to say /dev/sda3 and at the same time run dpkg and it get stuck in D STATE indefenetly until what ever program is sued to make the file trasfire finishes? [10:56] I noticed this problem on a 10.04 kubuntu machine to day. Also manadged to replicate it on a gentoo machine wit a ext4 formated disk. [10:56] dam anoying problem. [10:56] seems to ext4 that causes it after som googeling but Im no expert === Perun_ is now known as Perun [11:03] hi === warren is now known as Guest63122 === root is now known as Guest25736 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === phoenix_ is now known as Villian23 [13:42] hi! [13:43] how do i get openoffice with gtk? looks somehow ugly with qt widgets/styling === desti_T2 is now known as desti [13:45] are the openoffice.org-style-* packags just for icons or more then that? [13:45] freinhard: not sure, but changing that might help [13:46] Howdy [13:46] freinhard: also system settings > appearnce > gtk+ styles might help [13:47] James147: works for everything besides openoffice [13:48] freinhard: try changing openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org-gnome [13:49] * freinhard wonders who released that unfinished piece of software. [13:50] probably someone who worked very hard on it... [13:51] i appreciate the effort to port it to qt, but that's just not ready for production [13:52] removing openoffice.org-style-oxygen did the trick. back to gnome icons but at least i can read the menu txt [13:52] maybe that's just another symptom of intel driver brokeness [13:57] is there anyone here on the nvidia current driver, cuz im having some super nasty issues with the video driver as well as plasma randomly crashing [13:58] * James147 think hes on that one... [14:07] hi. I want to buy an Asus x5dij notebook. how can I verify if kubuntu 10.04 supports it ? [14:08] eagles0513875, you have that fancy 9400 right, which does have some bug reports on launchpad iirc. [14:09] BluesKaj: 8800gt [14:09] oh. ok\ [14:12] strange eagles0513875 === Crissi_ is now known as CrissiD [14:30] do I have to restart KDE after installing kde-l10n-XX? can I do this without having to exit my KDE session? === root is now known as Guest26051 [14:53] kde-l10n-XX ? === ubuntu_ is now known as EagleScreen === Ron___ is now known as Opte_Ron [15:19] in aptitude, I typed + when on kubuntu-desktop under Tasks so I would have KDE available. Now the startup screen says kubuntu. I want my orange ubuntu back during the startup phase. [15:19] How do i get it? [15:20] computergeeksjw: try removing plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo [15:21] thanks [15:21] sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm maybe [15:21] computergeeksjw: to get gdm back I think you have to run "sudo update-alternatives --config gdm" [15:21] It's the boot animation, not gdm vs kdm [15:22] ah right bootsplash [15:22] computergeeksjw: wasn't sure if you wanted that as well ^^ [15:22] I was given a choice to set either gdm or kdm as my defaule [15:22] I just wanted kdm available [15:22] but thx [15:23] i never reboot anyway :] [15:23] wastrel: I wouldent but sleep dosent work on my desktop :( [15:34] hey guys has the rekonq crashing issue fixed ? === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [15:44] hi everyone. I have just installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 10.04. but Amarok is not playing any music :(. please help. [15:45] anyone there? [15:45] santhust: any music, or just mp3s? [15:46] santhust: you might need to install kubuntu-restricted-extras if thats the case [15:46] @James: any music [15:46] @james: unable to play any music [15:47] @james: but music plays fine in Rhythmbox ..!! [15:47] santhust: wont play, or no sound? [15:47] @james: wont play. [15:48] santhust: try installing the above and see what happens (need to resart amarok after) === EagleScreen is now known as Guest20902 [15:48] @james: when i press the play icon, then momentarily (less than a second), it tries to play, then stop. [15:49] @james: ok. i'll try. [15:50] @james: ok trying...will catch up later. Thanks :) [16:15] i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras... restarted amarok. it didn't play still. then i removed and reinstalled it. shut down and restarted computer. now amarok playing fine. :) thanks a lot :) === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] === jhutchins_lt2 is now known as jhutchins_lt [16:24] santhust, you might also consider medibuntu for other media [16:24] !medibuntu [16:24] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org === angel is now known as mcruz === root is now known as Guest15178 === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos [17:43] Hello. I have a computer and a knoppix CD with which I can boot the computer and then access the (currently blank) hard drive as well as the internet (so I can retrieve files from the web etc). I'd like to install kubuntu on this computer. Can I avoid burning a CD ? (Actually I even have two hard drives on this computer. I'd be happy if I could just write the iso image to the second hard disk and boot from it but I guess it won't work...) [17:57] carop, actually, you can do something like that.. might not be completely newbie friendly though. [17:58] oh he left [18:06] hello [18:06] Hello all! === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [18:18] hello my ethernet is not working properly [18:18] do i have to install chipset drivers [18:19] i have a sg31g2b an the inet needs sometimes extremly long to load the page [18:20] sometimes it is away and sometimes it cant load the page === Crissi_ is now known as CrissiD [18:26] SanTah: If it loads a page, it's working and you don't need new chipset drivers. Likely the problem is with the network. === Misterio is now known as Misterio_ === Misterio_ is now known as Misterio [18:31] hmpf [18:34] in windows everything function so what should be with the network === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos [18:44] hallo [18:45] ich hab da zwei Fragen die KDE betreffen. 1.) Warum vergisst KDE immer meine Auflösung bzw wie kann ich das verhindern? [18:45] hello [18:45] !de | Kubuntu-User10 [18:45] Kubuntu-User10: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [18:56] My kde desktop doesn't keep my resolution. How can I fix this isue? [19:00] Kubuntu-User10: wich graphic card you have? [19:04] hello everyone [19:04] Hi there phoenix]# [19:05] hello j [19:07] i have removed my nvidia graphics card and i am using the internal graphics device in my intel 915GAV board. i replaced the x.org.conf with the xorg.conf.failsafe for using the xserver initially. now i want to install the driver for igd [19:09] i run this command "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel", it said it was already installed, but i purged and reinstalled it. it has not changed the xorg.conf. is there a command to detect the hardware installed? [19:10] Yes, delete xorg.conf and it will attept to use udev to detect the hardware automatically. [19:12] i will try that thank you pici === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] === avihay_ is now known as avihay === avihay is now known as avihay__ === avihay__ is now known as avihay [19:23] when there will be ubuntu 10.04.1 [19:24] it shoul be relesed 3 months after 27.4 (10.04 relese date) [19:24] anybody? [19:25] does anybody know? [19:25] when it is ready i would assume [19:25] try ubuntu.org [19:25] boby: Scheduled for Aug 12th. [19:25] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [19:27] Pici: the xorg.conf is not created [19:27] phoenix_: Thats correct. [19:27] phoenix_: Its not needed to start Xorg. [19:28] Pici: but i am not able to get graphics acceleration === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros [19:29] phoenix_: I'm not familiar with how the menu layout is in KDE, its probably best if someone else gives you a hand checking if you can enable any restricted drivers. [19:29] Pici: i tried the jockey program, it is not able to detect the hardware [19:42] hi [19:49] hello. just recently Kontact starts with summary. And then there no click has an effect in Kontact. I can't switch to calendar, news or mail. How can I get Kontact working again? [19:52] i had that too, not sure how i sorted it though [19:53] still doesn't seem to be working properly either [19:53] hm... really annoying... [19:56] Pici: i tried the command "Xorg -configure" it created xorg.conf.new file. i then moved the file to the X11 directory and uded this command "sudo X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf [19:56] Pici: it worked === Misterio is now known as Misterio_ === Misterio_ is now known as Misterio [20:13] has no one an idea how to solve that problem? === andrew is now known as Guest45790 === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos [20:42] Hi. In Kubuntu Lucid, how can I make my wireless connection active even when I logout? [20:42] xzased: in the connection's setting, mark it as a system connection [20:43] is it possible to configure a printer for every user on the one computer? [20:46] maco: The system connection option is greyed out. [20:47] xzased: i know that configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces would do it too, but that shouldnt be necessary :-/ === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower__ === WindPower__ is now known as WindPower [20:54] hello. just recently Kontact starts with summary. And then there no click has an effect in Kontact. I can't switch to calendar, news or mail. How can I get Kontact working again? [20:58] torsten_: you might have to remove all the settings for kontact in .kde/share/config [21:01] will give it a try [21:04] no, doesnt help. process kontact doesnt react furthermore === patrick is now known as Guest66203 [21:28] hi [21:28] is there some terminal program to count file lines? [21:34] hstefan: wc -l [file] [21:38] torsten_: thanks [21:38] np === jtheuer is now known as jt|away === ubuntu__ is now known as Kdee [22:05] hello. just recently Kontact starts with summary. And then there no click has an effect in Kontact. I can't switch to calendar, news or mail. How can I get Kontact working again? === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros === spiros is now known as spyrosebastos [22:33] What's ubuntu 10.04 sound server? [22:35] isn't it pulseaudio? [22:46] How do i change the default sound server on Kubuntu? [22:46] I guess pulseaudio is not detecting my mic. === spyrosebastos is now known as spiros [22:54] alot of ppl just remove pulse - it is problematic [22:54] n8 [22:55] Well, if i remove pulse my whole kde installation goes with it [22:56] ok [22:56] does alsa see the mic? [22:57] look in alsamixer in konsole [22:57] no it doesnt [22:57] oops [22:57] it does [22:57] is it a usb mic? [22:57] Front Mic Boost and Mic Boost [22:57] k :] [22:57] No [22:58] Its a laptop [22:58] But i'm with an external mic [22:58] they turned up in alsamixer? [22:58] yes [22:58] top left in alsamixer has a button to hit for capture cards - f4 I think [22:59] F5 actually [22:59] k [22:59] does the mic show in there? [23:00] yes, it is in /proc/asound/devices [23:01] in f5 it should show the capture volume not just a boost or something [23:02] Yes, its there [23:02] And its 100% [23:04] does ffmpeg -i plughw:1,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 192k out.wav give you any capturing? [23:05] oops does ffmpeg -i plughw:1,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 192k out.mp3 give you any capturing? [23:05] ill install ffmpeg [23:06] http://pastebin.com/twuN9REe [23:07] it is ubuntus ffmpeg so there is no mp3 support [23:08] I dont get it, libmp3lame0 is installed [23:08] look at the config options at the start of ffmpegs output [23:09] no libmp3lame [23:09] !mp3 [23:09] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [23:10] I have restricted formats installed [23:11] when ubuntu built ffmpeg they on purpose chose not to include mp3 in it [23:11] i know. But i dont understand the relation [23:11] but since the mic is found by alsa you need to get around pulse or make pulse work with the mic [23:12] what is the lappy model? [23:12] Philco 15008 [23:12] I'll have a google [23:12] Now, making pulse work with the mic will be something. [23:13] everything in google about that lappy is in spanish... [23:14] ot portugese [23:14] Portuguese, actually. hehehe [23:14] I'm from Brazil. [23:14] there's a portugese channel [23:14] !pt [23:14] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [23:14] they might know the hardware better [23:14] The hardware is generic. [23:15] It works on windows out of the box [23:15] k [23:15] lspci and look for what the mic is [23:16] http://pastebin.com/gvJ3GQ4b [23:21] no finding much with google [23:21] seems it mostly works for people [23:21] hmm [23:21] If i could remove pulseaudio [23:23] is it one particular app you want it to work with? [23:23] Skype [23:24] I've seen alot of folk have trouble with sound and skype - let me try another google [23:25] Its not working in qarecord either [23:26] http://pastebin.com/FyYtdgJj [23:26] Check if you see anything strange on its output [23:29] Writing to file /home/fidelix/New1.wav - is that file there? [23:30] Yes. But if i write to a new one its the same. [23:31] /home/fidelix/New1.wav already exists, renaming old file to /home/fidelix/New1.old2.wav - is that one diff? [23:33] They're all diff [23:33] (3126) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-fidelix/ksycoca4" [23:33] This seems suspicious [23:33] Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. [23:33] IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon [23:33] This too [23:34] lots of app do that [23:36] so qarecord does record diff wavs [23:37] so hopefully it is a just a skype setup thing [23:37] no [23:37] qarecord only recorded diff wavs because every time i hit record it creates a new file [23:37] And renames the old onde to .old [23:38] does it record sound? [23:38] Nop [23:38] k [23:44] fidelix: try in console arecord test.wav and speak into the mic - ctrl+c to stop [23:44] s/console/konsole [23:44] ok [23:44] how do i play with console the sound? [23:46] Did it [23:46] there is some noise [23:46] But no voice [23:47] what does arecord -l return then? [23:49] **** Lista de Dispositivos CAPTURE Hardware **** [23:49] placa 0: Intel [HDA Intel], dispositivo 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog] [23:49] Dispositivo secundário: 1/1 [23:49] Dispositivo secundário #0: subdevice #0 [23:49] fidelix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [23:50] try in konsole arecord -v test.wav and speak into the mic - ctrl+c to stop [23:50] it seems to see the mic [23:51] Just noise [23:53] the -v option was to get some terminal output from arecord to check for errors [23:54] If u want i can pastebin it [23:54] Its a lot of info [23:56] no [23:56] any obvious errors? [23:56] and have you got the pcm or master selected in the kmix [23:56] as the master [23:57] ill check it [23:58] Master = Master [23:58] try using the pcm as master [23:58] ok