[00:07] cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/savedsources.list [00:07] you can change the name of where you want to save it [00:08] > sends the output of the command to a file [00:08] so ~/savedsources.list is where you want to save it and what you want the file to be named === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn === paultag is now known as crabbytag === crabbytag is now known as paultag === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] [08:30] hi zacinfinite [08:30] Hello zacinfinite [08:31] hey hobgoblin how goes the war of middle earth today? [08:31] zacinfinite: did you follow the link in my sig? [08:31] zkriesse: slowly [08:31] hobgoblin: At least it's going right? [08:32] slow is always best [08:32] who wants to eat a green sloth [08:34] * zkriesse shakes swoody 's hand [08:34] * swoody slaps zkriesse upside the head [08:35] * zkriesse drifts into darkness and shadow [08:35] * zkriesse appears behind swoody and assassinates him! [08:35] HAHA! [08:35] I REIN SUPREME! [08:35] lol how's it going Steve [08:35] :| [08:36] :[ [08:40] rein? how do you rein supreme? [08:40] I reign supreme :) [08:40] I think he means he rains supreme [08:41] lol [08:41] Quit teasing me! [08:41] very wet fellow... o.O [08:42] indeed [08:42] so how's life treating ya, hobgoblin ? :) [08:42] better now I been awake a while :) [08:42] it's good to see you around these parts more frequently now [08:43] swoody: I never stopped coming here :) [08:43] I just stopped being in that 'team' [08:43] which was not one at the time - I hope it's better now [08:50] hobgoblin: can't say too much myself, I'm usually on after work now, so it's a bit quiet in here [08:50] :) [08:51] I had noticed you missing [08:52] hobgoblin: yeah, between taking care of some stuff, and then nearly a month w/o a modem at home wasn't too producive to my online life ;) [08:52] I also read the m/l from time to time [08:52] very cool :) === compiledkernel is now known as Guest80394 [13:11] 'lo all [13:11] 'lo [14:58] anybody seen Silver_Fox_ lately [14:58] ? [14:59] not for the last 3 hours smeag0l [14:59] thank yoy IAmNotThatGuy :) [14:59] (: [15:00] it's just that hes my so called mentor [15:00] :o [15:00] and i need pm with him [15:01] *to [15:01] personal stuff ;P [15:02] hmmmm memo him smeag0l [15:02] dunno howto [15:02] and i am in relapse [15:03] smeag0l: /msg memoserv help [15:03] that will help you (: [15:03] thank you IAmNotThatGuy ;D [15:04] no thankz (: [15:04] just trying to be polite [15:04] he he :D [15:44] 5 [15:44] 5 [15:45] Good Afternoon [15:53] Silver_Fox_: smeag0l was asking about his mentor :D [15:54] IAmNotThatGuy, Oh? Looking for me is he? [15:55] =) [15:55] Silver_Fox_: I am not his mentor :P [15:55] howdy Silver_Fox_ [15:55] IAmNotThatGuy, I am his mentor. I wanted to know if he was looking for me [15:55] duanedesign, Hey [15:56] Silver_Fox_: I think he memo'd ya [15:56] and i need pm with him [15:56] *to [15:56] personal stuff ;P [15:56] hi Silver_Fox_ i am right here [15:56] :) [16:06] hi [16:06] I have a problem with the microphone configuration [16:08] I am using ubuntu wubi 1004 and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly [16:08] When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3. === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn [16:19] I have a problem with the microphone configuration I am using ubuntu wubi 1004 and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3. [16:20] How close is the mic to the speaker? [16:20] Thinking you have a nice loop going on [16:21] it works alright in windows, and it is a headset# [16:21] Okay, hmm [16:24] it also is literally an exact repetition of the said word, and not an echo which may be cut off, more or less nooisy [16:34] #ubuntu [17:08] I have a problem with the microphone configuration I am using ubuntu wubi 1004 and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3. [17:29] Newbie question: I want to modify a package (add lpk support for openssh) that will only be used locally. So, I got the source, patched it, compiled using dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc , and installed using dpkg -i. So far so good. What is the proper way of renaming this package (openssh-lpk) so I will not conflict with the proper openssh package? [17:29] raubvogel: it depends. I'd use a ~lpk against it [17:30] raubvogel: so that you replace current versions, so when a CVE passes thru you catch the update, but otherwise it sits fine [17:30] raubvogel: it's what we do for Ubuntu and PPAs [17:31] 1.0-1~raubvogel1 [17:31] raubvogel: that's what I'd use for you. Just match the source pkg's major version so you catch updates [17:32] paultag_: you are talking about in debian/changelog, right? [17:32] raubvogel: you will have to match it there, too [17:33] raubvogel: because the ~raubvogel1 will let you bump the version number without kludging the major version number [17:33] raubvogel: and you can also go ~raubvogel2 for another update [17:33] Where else then? I was hoping to have the package named like openssh-lpk, kinda like sudo-ldap. [17:33] raubvogel: but it's not a new package [17:33] I see your point [17:34] But I do not want it to conflict with the official openssh one [17:34] raubvogel: you should -- they conflict [17:34] After all, it will only be internal [17:34] raubvogel: you can't have both installed and have the system be useful [17:34] raubvogel: just keep up with the major versions with your diversion and you will be fine :) [17:35] But, in the case of sudo-ldap, I can do `export SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=yes; apt-get install sudo-ldap` and it will install sudo-ldap and replace the normal sudo with it [17:35] raubvogel: that's not what you want, if the package is from the same source dsc then it's the same package [17:36] sudo-ldap != sudo ( source pacakges ) [17:36] if you re-wrote openssh, then yeah, you could call it whatever [17:36] but this is the same package, call it openssh-x.y.z-1~raubvogel1 === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [17:37] so it will replace openssh-x.y.z-1, but not openssh-x.y.z-2, or openssh-x.y.z+1-1 [17:37] because that is a security issue [17:40] raubvogel: still with me? [17:40] Not really [17:41] raubvogel: where did I loose you? [17:41] The part that sudo-ldap and openssh + lpk are not similar in principle [17:43] raubvogel: OK, what they did there was dumb. I looked it up. They just set it to conflict with eachother [17:43] raubvogel: That's not up to snuff IIRC. Ask in ubuntu-motu [17:43] raubvogel: they do packaging, and they know the standards a lot better then me [17:43] Well, but it allows people to choose whether they get ldap or not [17:44] raubvogel: Well the idea is you are deploying this deb to systems by hand, right? [17:45] raubvogel: I mean you can do it your way, but it would only make sense if it's in an apt repo [17:45] raubvogel: otherwise it's going to be an issue [17:45] The idea is to add the package to our depository so we can add it to each machine (as in apt-get install openssh-lpk). So, yes. [17:45] raubvogel: You can do it that way, but just be sure to set up the control conflicts to conflict with openssh [17:46] I still do not know how to do that, but does it make sense what I am trying to do? [17:46] raubvogel: I'll BRB. I need to walk back to work [17:46] No worries [17:46] raubvogel: yes, hang on 20 minutes or so === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml [17:56] back [17:57] raubvogel: Still here? [17:57] Yeah [17:58] OK [17:58] raubvogel: so if you're using it internally, call it what you want :P [17:59] raubvogel: just be sure to keep up with security patches, releases etc [17:59] But, where do I change the name of the package and how do I set the control conflicts to, well, conflict? [18:00] raubvogel: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html [18:00] raubvogel: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html [18:00] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts in particular [18:06] Nice [18:16] paultag can you solve my problem? I described it earlier don't know if you still got it. anyway my problem is than that everything that I speak into my microphone get echoed at the output(of the receiver, ) [18:16] it does not get simp;ly a faint echo [18:17] sec morri, I'm doing some kernel work. Post everything again and someome might come around [18:17] morri: sorry :( [18:17] ok [18:18] could not be helped by the #ubuntu people so far as I only got as far as checkng the alsamixers out.. === zkriesse is now known as The_Wiki_Ninja === The_Wiki_Ninja is now known as zkriesse [19:18] Need some more performance in UBUNTU video show.. That is It seems in Windows I got more advanced performance(the quality of video). [19:19] It seems ubuntu is giving me poor video quality [19:26] shahan: when you say video show, which program are you using? [19:26] VLC [19:26] raubvogel: it seems that in Windows I got much better video quality. [19:27] Could be a codec issue [19:29] Or you may need one of the vlc plugins [19:30] raubvogel: no... everything is going ok. I have tested through Totem too [19:30] raubvogel: only video quality issue [19:36] shahan: What video card do you have? Are you using the correct drivers? [19:36] ya.... I hve no external card [19:36] its built in [19:36] squaregoldfish: My motherboard is GIGABYTE G31 [19:38] shahan: do lspci |grep VGA [19:38] shahan: Looks like you have intel gma 3100 graphics chip. [19:40] hobgoblin: http://pastebin.com/QmgyHTxf [19:47] shahan: Check SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > HARDWARE DRIVERS (or something like that) to see if you can load and Intel driver [20:00] paultag: how is the debian/files created? [21:32] hi [21:34] my mic which is part of my head set keeps reverbing everthing once. (not to me but to the output(the speakers, if you record it; the receiver on the other end of skype) [21:37] #ubuntu === slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] [22:21] hello All [22:21] need an answer to a question [22:22] DJLOUDnPROUD: don't wait to be asked. Just ask your question, if someone can help, they will answer you :-) [22:22] I am seriously thinking of installing ubutu and I am wondering what about all the programs i have now will they run on Ubuntu [22:23] DJLOUDnPROUD: that depends on what programmes you have on your existing system [22:24] power chute for my UPS SAM4 paltalk [22:24] there are variants of, say, Microsoft office. [22:24] for a start [22:25] for others you can look them up to see if there are linux versions, or for quite a few windows programmes there is WINE, you can also run windows environment totally under a ubuntu system [22:26] very doubtful that all your existing progs will run - they are made for windows - might be better to see what alternatives there are and then concentrate on the ones there are not alternatives for [22:27] i use this pc for DJ`ing and editing songs and promos [22:27] DJLOUDnPROUD: look into ubuntustudio [22:27] i use SAM4 for radio station DJ work [22:27] http://ubuntustudio.org/ [22:27] internet radio [22:28] DJLOUDnPROUD: while we are all happy to help - we are not a search engine :) [22:29] not wanting search engine [22:29] i am wondering what happens after i install the OS as to what will work and what will not work [22:30] I am tired of Microscrap [22:30] none of your windows progs will work as they are - some might work using wine - some might not - some might have alternatives - some might not [22:31] so it is trial an error [22:31] what if i decide to go back to xp how much trouble is it [22:32] it could be - ubuntustudio would be a good place to start looking and also if Puck` is about they might well be able to give you specific advice [22:32] DJLOUDnPROUD: what I would do to start with is dual boot [22:32] k [22:33] but I think you'll be better of with ubuntustudio - but that is just a guess based on what you've said you use pc for [22:33] so linux based software will run ok on it sweet [22:33] a dual boot will let you run both - don't go the wubi way [22:33] i can get SAM4 in linux [22:34] can you? [22:34] wubi?? [22:34] yep [22:34] if you read up on dual boot's you'll see wubi mentioned - I would ignore it :) [22:34] spacial audio offers in linux [22:35] lol ok [22:35] oh well that is a good start then :) [22:35] sweet thank you all you have been much help now to think and try it all out [22:36] wubi is good for a quick look - but I am not at all sure you'd be good going for it - download the ubuntustudio iso and do a dual boot - hang on for a link [22:37] have link [22:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot [22:37] looking at it now [22:37] aaahh that yep [22:37] ty [22:37] welcome [22:38] have a good look at those - when you are in the livecd you can access web so can get here again if you need to ask questions [22:38] have fun [22:39] grins [22:39] oh and the forums are a good place to look for help - there is a specific sub-forum which you should visit - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335 [22:39] i have several pc' an laptops if i need that extra help along the way to access web [22:39] :) [22:40] just have to sort which is the first victim err guienni pig [22:41] the best one of course - it's been wasted up till now :D [22:41] networking vista an xp is not fun [22:41] chuckles true [22:41] word of advice - start with one that has an ethernet port [22:42] port ?? [22:42] and I am only joking - while I do not and have not for a long while used windows - any os is only any good if it does what you require :) [22:42] all are connected to router [22:42] k cool - wireless can be problematic sometimes [22:42] some via wireless [22:43] some wired [22:43] go for wired tostart with then [22:43] k [22:43] so the best wired one :) [22:44] that is this one [22:44] the first victim [22:44] har har har [22:44] well - good luck - and remember that when it is all going wrong - you are not the first :) === uRock_ is now known as running_rabbit07 [22:45] hope bill has takin the time to teach windoews to swimm [22:45] I don't do the fanboi thing I'm afraid :) [22:46] lol [22:46] I am pragmatic about it all [22:46] later ppl thanks for the help [22:46] time to frankinstien a pc [22:46] welcome - cya [22:46] cya === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn [23:18] How to detect if a drive uses mbr or gpt? [23:38] can i just remove a compiled kernel with the command "rm" (those 2 image and header .deb files)?