[00:07] <duanedesign> cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/savedsources.list
[00:07] <duanedesign> you can change the name of where you want to save it
[00:08] <duanedesign>  >    sends the output of the command to a file
[00:08] <duanedesign> so   ~/savedsources.list    is where you want to save it and what you want the file to be named
[08:30] <hobgoblin> hi zacinfinite
[08:30] <zkriesse> Hello zacinfinite
[08:31] <zkriesse> hey hobgoblin how goes the war of middle earth today?
[08:31] <hobgoblin> zacinfinite: did you follow the link in my sig?
[08:31] <hobgoblin> zkriesse: slowly
[08:31] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: At least it's going right?
[08:32] <hobgoblin> slow is always best
[08:32] <hobgoblin> who wants to eat a green sloth
[08:34]  * zkriesse shakes swoody 's hand
[08:34]  * swoody slaps zkriesse upside the head 
[08:35]  * zkriesse drifts into darkness and shadow
[08:35]  * zkriesse appears behind swoody and assassinates him!
[08:35] <zkriesse> HAHA!
[08:35] <zkriesse> I REIN SUPREME!
[08:35] <zkriesse> lol how's it going Steve
[08:35] <swoody> :|
[08:36] <zkriesse> :[
[08:40] <hobgoblin> rein? how do you rein supreme?
[08:40] <hobgoblin> I reign supreme :)
[08:40] <swoody> I think he means he rains supreme
[08:41] <zkriesse> lol
[08:41] <zkriesse> Quit teasing me!
[08:41] <swoody> very wet fellow... o.O
[08:42] <hobgoblin> indeed
[08:42] <swoody> so how's life treating ya, hobgoblin ? :)
[08:42] <hobgoblin> better now I been awake a while :)
[08:42] <swoody> it's good to see you around these parts more frequently now
[08:43] <hobgoblin> swoody: I never stopped coming here :)
[08:43] <hobgoblin> I just stopped being in that 'team'
[08:43] <hobgoblin> which was not one at the time - I hope it's better now
[08:50] <swoody> hobgoblin: can't say too much myself, I'm usually on after work now, so it's a bit quiet in here
[08:50] <hobgoblin> :)
[08:51] <hobgoblin> I had noticed you missing
[08:52] <swoody> hobgoblin: yeah, between taking care of some stuff, and then nearly a month w/o a modem at home wasn't too producive to my online life ;)
[08:52] <hobgoblin> I also read the m/l from time to time
[08:52] <swoody> very cool :)
[13:11] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[13:11] <paultag> 'lo
[14:58] <smeag0l> anybody seen Silver_Fox_ lately
[14:58] <smeag0l> ?
[14:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> not for the last 3 hours smeag0l
[14:59] <smeag0l> thank yoy IAmNotThatGuy :)
[14:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> (:
[15:00] <smeag0l> it's just that hes my so called mentor
[15:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> :o
[15:00] <smeag0l> and i need pm with him
[15:01] <smeag0l> *to
[15:01] <smeag0l> personal stuff ;P
[15:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> hmmmm memo him smeag0l
[15:02] <smeag0l> dunno howto
[15:02] <smeag0l> and i am in relapse
[15:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> smeag0l: /msg memoserv help
[15:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> that will help you (:
[15:03] <smeag0l> thank you IAmNotThatGuy ;D
[15:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> no thankz (:
[15:04] <smeag0l> just trying to be polite
[15:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> he he :D
[15:44] <duanedesign> 5
[15:44] <duanedesign> 5
[15:45] <Silver_Fox_> Good Afternoon
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> Silver_Fox_: smeag0l was asking about his mentor :D
[15:54] <Silver_Fox_> IAmNotThatGuy,   Oh? Looking for me is he?
[15:55] <Silver_Fox_> =)
[15:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> Silver_Fox_:  I am not his mentor :P
[15:55] <duanedesign> howdy Silver_Fox_
[15:55] <Silver_Fox_> IAmNotThatGuy,  I am his mentor. I wanted to know if he was looking for me
[15:55] <Silver_Fox_> duanedesign,  Hey
[15:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> Silver_Fox_: I think he memo'd ya
 and i need pm with him
 *to
 personal stuff ;P
[15:56] <smeag0l> hi Silver_Fox_  i am right here
[15:56] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[16:06] <morri> hi
[16:06] <morri> I have a problem with the microphone configuration
[16:08] <morri> I am using ubuntu wubi 1004  and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly
[16:08] <morri> When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3.
 I have a problem with the microphone configuration  I am using ubuntu wubi 1004  and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly  When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3.
[16:20] <Silver_Fox_> How close is the  mic to the speaker?
[16:20] <Silver_Fox_> Thinking you have a nice loop going on
[16:21] <morri> it works alright in windows, and it is a headset#
[16:21] <Silver_Fox_> Okay, hmm
[16:24] <morri> it also is literally an exact repetition of the said word, and not an echo which may be cut off, more or less nooisy
[16:34] <morri> #ubuntu
[17:08] <morri> I have a problem with the microphone configuration  I am using ubuntu wubi 1004  and I am using a headset, I can hear alright , but the microphone works badly  When I speak into it it seems to echo every sound. so : test 1,2,3 turns out : test, test, 1,1,2,2,3,3.
[17:29] <raubvogel> Newbie question: I want to modify a package (add lpk  support for openssh) that will only be used locally. So, I got the source, patched it, compiled using dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc , and installed using dpkg -i. So far so good. What is the proper way of renaming this package (openssh-lpk) so I will not conflict with the proper openssh package?
[17:29] <paultag_> raubvogel: it depends. I'd use a ~lpk against it
[17:30] <paultag_> raubvogel: so that you replace current versions, so when a CVE passes thru you catch the update, but otherwise it sits fine
[17:30] <paultag_> raubvogel: it's what we do for Ubuntu and PPAs
[17:31] <paultag_> 1.0-1~raubvogel1
[17:31] <paultag_> raubvogel: that's what I'd use for you. Just match the source pkg's major version so you catch updates
[17:32] <raubvogel> paultag_: you are talking about in debian/changelog, right?
[17:32] <paultag_> raubvogel: you will have to match it there, too
[17:33] <paultag_> raubvogel: because the ~raubvogel1 will let you bump the version number without kludging the major version number
[17:33] <paultag_> raubvogel: and you can also go ~raubvogel2 for another update
[17:33] <raubvogel> Where else then? I was hoping to have the package named like openssh-lpk, kinda like sudo-ldap.
[17:33] <paultag_> raubvogel: but it's not a new package
[17:33] <raubvogel> I see your point
[17:34] <raubvogel> But I do not want it to conflict with the official openssh one
[17:34] <paultag_> raubvogel: you should -- they conflict
[17:34] <raubvogel> After all, it will only be internal
[17:34] <paultag_> raubvogel: you can't have both installed and have the system be useful
[17:34] <paultag_> raubvogel: just keep up with the major versions with your diversion and you will be fine :)
[17:35] <raubvogel> But, in the case of sudo-ldap, I can do `export SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=yes; apt-get install sudo-ldap` and it will install sudo-ldap and replace the normal sudo with it
[17:35] <paultag_> raubvogel: that's not what you want, if the package is from the same source dsc then it's the same package
[17:36] <paultag_> sudo-ldap != sudo ( source pacakges )
[17:36] <paultag_> if you re-wrote openssh, then yeah, you could call it whatever
[17:36] <paultag_> but this is the same package, call it openssh-x.y.z-1~raubvogel1
[17:37] <paultag_> so it will replace openssh-x.y.z-1, but not openssh-x.y.z-2, or openssh-x.y.z+1-1
[17:37] <paultag_> because that is a security issue
[17:40] <paultag_> raubvogel: still with me?
[17:40] <raubvogel> Not really
[17:41] <paultag_> raubvogel: where did I loose you?
[17:41] <raubvogel> The part that sudo-ldap and openssh + lpk are not similar in principle
[17:43] <paultag_> raubvogel: OK, what they did there was dumb. I looked it up. They just set it to conflict with eachother
[17:43] <paultag_> raubvogel: That's not up to snuff IIRC. Ask in ubuntu-motu
[17:43] <paultag_> raubvogel: they do packaging, and they know the standards a lot better then me
[17:43] <raubvogel> Well, but it allows people to choose whether they get ldap or not
[17:44] <paultag_> raubvogel: Well the idea is you are deploying this deb to systems by hand, right?
[17:45] <paultag_> raubvogel: I mean you can do it your way, but it would only make sense if it's in an apt repo
[17:45] <paultag_> raubvogel: otherwise it's going to be an issue
[17:45] <raubvogel> The idea is to add the package to our depository so we can add it to each machine (as in apt-get install openssh-lpk). So, yes.
[17:45] <paultag_> raubvogel: You can do it that way, but just be sure to set up the control conflicts to conflict with openssh
[17:46] <raubvogel> I still do not know how to do that, but does it make sense what I am trying to do?
[17:46] <paultag_> raubvogel: I'll BRB. I need to walk back to work
[17:46] <raubvogel> No worries
[17:46] <paultag_> raubvogel: yes, hang on 20 minutes or so
[17:56] <paultag> back
[17:57] <paultag> raubvogel: Still here?
[17:57] <raubvogel> Yeah
[17:58] <paultag> OK
[17:58] <paultag> raubvogel: so if you're using it internally, call it what you want :P
[17:59] <paultag> raubvogel: just be sure to keep up with security patches, releases etc
[17:59] <raubvogel> But, where do I change the name of the package and how do I set the control conflicts to, well, conflict?
[18:00] <paultag> raubvogel: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html
[18:00] <paultag> raubvogel: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html
[18:00] <paultag> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts in particular
[18:06] <raubvogel> Nice
[18:16] <morri> paultag can you solve my problem? I described it earlier don't know if you still got it. anyway my problem is than that everything that I speak into my microphone get echoed at the output(of the receiver, )
[18:16] <morri> it does not get simp;ly a faint echo
[18:17] <paultag> sec morri, I'm doing some kernel work. Post everything again and someome might come around
[18:17] <paultag> morri: sorry :(
[18:17] <morri> ok
[18:18] <morri> could not be helped by the #ubuntu people so far as I only got as far as checkng the alsamixers out..
[19:18] <shahan> Need some more performance in UBUNTU video show.. That is It seems in Windows I got more advanced performance(the quality of video).
[19:19] <shahan> It seems ubuntu is giving me poor video quality
[19:26] <raubvogel> shahan: when you say video show, which program are you using?
[19:26] <shahan> VLC
[19:26] <shahan> raubvogel: it seems that in Windows I got much better video quality.
[19:27] <raubvogel> Could be a codec issue
[19:29] <raubvogel> Or you may need one of the vlc plugins
[19:30] <shahan> raubvogel: no... everything is going ok. I have tested through Totem too
[19:30] <shahan> raubvogel: only video quality issue
[19:36] <squaregoldfish> shahan: What video card do you have? Are you using the correct drivers?
[19:36] <shahan> ya.... I hve no external card
[19:36] <shahan> its built in
[19:36] <shahan> squaregoldfish: My motherboard is GIGABYTE G31
[19:38] <hobgoblin> shahan: do lspci |grep VGA
[19:38] <squaregoldfish> shahan: Looks like you have intel gma 3100 graphics chip.
[19:40] <shahan> hobgoblin: http://pastebin.com/QmgyHTxf
[19:47] <squaregoldfish> shahan: Check SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > HARDWARE DRIVERS (or something like that) to see if you can load and Intel driver
[20:00] <raubvogel> paultag: how is the debian/files created?
[21:32] <morri> hi
[21:34] <morri> my mic which is part of my head set keeps reverbing everthing once. (not to me but to the output(the speakers, if you record it; the receiver on the other end of skype)
[21:37] <morri> #ubuntu
[22:21] <DJLOUDnPROUD> hello All
[22:21] <DJLOUDnPROUD> need an answer to a question
[22:22] <phillw> DJLOUDnPROUD: don't wait to be asked. Just ask your question, if someone can help, they will answer you :-)
[22:22] <DJLOUDnPROUD> I am seriously thinking of installing ubutu and I am wondering what about all the programs i have now will they run on Ubuntu
[22:23] <phillw> DJLOUDnPROUD: that depends on what programmes you have on your existing system
[22:24] <DJLOUDnPROUD> power chute for my UPS SAM4 paltalk
[22:24] <phillw> there are variants of, say, Microsoft office.
[22:24] <DJLOUDnPROUD> for a start
[22:25] <phillw> for others you can look them up to see if there are linux versions, or for quite a few windows programmes there is WINE, you can also run windows environment totally under a ubuntu system
[22:26] <hobgoblin> very doubtful that all your existing progs will run - they are made for windows - might be better to see what alternatives there are and then concentrate on the ones there are not alternatives for
[22:27] <DJLOUDnPROUD> i use this pc for DJ`ing and editing songs and promos
[22:27] <hobgoblin> DJLOUDnPROUD: look into ubuntustudio
[22:27] <DJLOUDnPROUD> i use SAM4 for radio station DJ work
[22:27] <hobgoblin> http://ubuntustudio.org/
[22:27] <DJLOUDnPROUD> internet radio
[22:28] <hobgoblin> DJLOUDnPROUD: while we are all happy to help - we are not a search engine :)
[22:29] <DJLOUDnPROUD> not wanting search engine
[22:29] <DJLOUDnPROUD> i am wondering what happens after i install the OS as to what will work and what will not work
[22:30] <DJLOUDnPROUD> I am tired of Microscrap
[22:30] <hobgoblin> none of your windows progs will work as they are - some might work using wine - some might not - some might have alternatives - some might not
[22:31] <DJLOUDnPROUD> so it is trial an error
[22:31] <DJLOUDnPROUD> what if i decide to go back to xp how much trouble is it
[22:32] <hobgoblin> it could be - ubuntustudio would be a good place to start looking and also if Puck` is about they might well be able to give you specific advice
[22:32] <hobgoblin> DJLOUDnPROUD: what I would do to start with is dual boot
[22:32] <DJLOUDnPROUD> k
[22:33] <hobgoblin> but I think you'll be better of with ubuntustudio - but that is just a guess based on what you've said you use pc for
[22:33] <DJLOUDnPROUD> so linux based software will run ok on it sweet
[22:33] <hobgoblin> a dual boot will let you run both - don't go the wubi way
[22:33] <DJLOUDnPROUD> i can get SAM4 in linux
[22:34] <hobgoblin> can you?
[22:34] <DJLOUDnPROUD> wubi??
[22:34] <DJLOUDnPROUD> yep
[22:34] <hobgoblin> if you read up on dual boot's you'll see wubi mentioned - I would ignore it :)
[22:34] <DJLOUDnPROUD> spacial audio offers in linux
[22:35] <DJLOUDnPROUD> lol ok
[22:35] <hobgoblin> oh well that is a good start then :)
[22:35] <DJLOUDnPROUD> sweet thank you all  you have been much help now to think and try it all out
[22:36] <hobgoblin> wubi is good for a quick look - but I am not at all sure you'd be good going for it - download the ubuntustudio iso and do a dual boot - hang on for a link
[22:37] <DJLOUDnPROUD> have link
[22:37] <hobgoblin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot
[22:37] <DJLOUDnPROUD> looking at it now
[22:37] <DJLOUDnPROUD> aaahh that yep
[22:37] <DJLOUDnPROUD> ty
[22:37] <hobgoblin> welcome
[22:38] <hobgoblin> have a good look at those - when you are in the livecd you can access web so can get here again if you need to ask questions
[22:38] <hobgoblin> have fun
[22:39] <DJLOUDnPROUD> grins
[22:39] <hobgoblin> oh and the forums are a good place to look for help - there is a specific sub-forum which you should visit - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335
[22:39] <DJLOUDnPROUD> i have several pc' an laptops if i need that extra help along the way to access web
[22:39] <hobgoblin> :)
[22:40] <DJLOUDnPROUD> just have to sort which is the first victim err guienni pig
[22:41] <hobgoblin> the best one of course - it's been wasted up till now :D
[22:41] <DJLOUDnPROUD> networking vista an xp is not fun
[22:41] <DJLOUDnPROUD> chuckles true
[22:41] <hobgoblin> word of advice - start with one that has an ethernet port
[22:42] <DJLOUDnPROUD> port ??
[22:42] <hobgoblin> and I am only joking - while I do not and have not for a long while used windows - any os is only any good if it does what you require :)
[22:42] <DJLOUDnPROUD> all are connected to router
[22:42] <hobgoblin> k cool - wireless can be problematic sometimes
[22:42] <DJLOUDnPROUD> some via wireless
[22:43] <DJLOUDnPROUD> some wired
[22:43] <hobgoblin> go for wired tostart with then
[22:43] <DJLOUDnPROUD> k
[22:43] <hobgoblin> so the best wired one :)
[22:44] <DJLOUDnPROUD> that is this one
[22:44] <DJLOUDnPROUD> the first victim
[22:44] <DJLOUDnPROUD> har har har
[22:44] <hobgoblin> well - good luck - and remember that when it is all going wrong - you are not the first :)
[22:45] <DJLOUDnPROUD> hope bill has takin the time to teach windoews to swimm
[22:45] <hobgoblin> I don't do the fanboi thing I'm afraid :)
[22:46] <DJLOUDnPROUD> lol
[22:46] <hobgoblin> I am pragmatic about it all
[22:46] <DJLOUDnPROUD> later ppl thanks for the help
[22:46] <DJLOUDnPROUD> time to frankinstien a pc
[22:46] <hobgoblin> welcome - cya
[22:46] <DJLOUDnPROUD> cya
[23:18] <raubvogel> How to detect if a drive uses mbr or gpt?
[23:38] <JoeMaverickSett> can i just remove a compiled kernel with the command "rm" (those 2 image and header .deb files)?